The Postal Service will need to change its business model in order to survive. If the Congress refuses to change their mandate, then perhaps, they need to privatize the postal service. Just as FedEx and UPS have added to their services. They dont just deliver packages. FedEx even bought out Kinkos. The Postal Service not only has to compete with FedEx and UPS, they have to change their services to compete with email, faxes, ipads, and other electronic means of communication.
Just announced today 35,000 postal workers will be laid off, a necessary evil I am afraid, know a guy working for the postal service, I have been with my current employer for 20 years, while he has been with the postal service for roughly the same time. I am an educated, engineer, and receive 4 weeks of paid vacation, he has a 3rd grade education and is allowed 7 weeks of paid annual leave, nearly two months off a year. The rest of us are feeling the bite, postal workers should too.
When considering large numbers, it is useful to use 1 second as being equal to 1 dollar, so that 1 millon dollars would be about 12 days.of seconds. These are approximations, And 1 billion would be about 32 years, and a trillion would be about 32000 years. Spending the Koch brothers fortunes, of $45 billion, they could spend $10 dollars each second&would go broke in 144 years spending $846,000 each day. Being wealthy must be nice.
Postal workers are lazy, inbred, retarded gorillas with surly attitudes who think the world owes them a living. If the USPS wants to fix their budget they need to cull the herd.
~^In 2006 REPUBLICAN legislators mandated that the U.S. Postal Service(USPS) begin a 10 yr process of pre-paying all health & retirement benefits for all employees it may hire up to 75 yrs from now! THE GOAL: To create the ILLUSION that USPS, a NON tax payer funded profit making agency, is on the verge of FINANCIAL COLLAPSE! REPUBLICANS want to lay off 625,000 AMERICANS & PRIVATIZE USPS . ~~^~^~^~^^^^^^^^^ REPUBLICAN RACKETEERING & GREED ARE DESTROYING AMERICA!
Instead of cutting the PO, expand it! Yes, Uncle Zippy should OWN all of the zip code dot COMS. Let's start with 10012 10013 11568 11976 11962 90210 94010 07620 93108 94027 oh and throw in 90809 DOT COM in there, LB is a City of Many Firsts. Then SELL an "at90809dotCom" address to the businesses there. See where I'm going with this? (I used to own 90809 ( dot com ) but registerfly went down;)
Cenk had a video on this about how the postal service IS technically turning a profit. Its bush legislation that makes it look like its not. Was that incorrect?
@SezSays No your right. There's a sane way to fix the post office but gov's trying to avoid fixing things these days. They're busy with commemorative coins and reminding us that the US's motto is "In God We Trust".
I think this video misses key point about the P.O. It consistently operates at a profit, the only gov dept that does. They were mandated by Congress to fully fund their pension plan far into the future (like 75 years). So much has been diverted they can't meet their expenses. The pension fund has billions. All that needs to happen is to access that hunk of $... problem solved. Why not do it? Because the financial sector wouldn't like it. Big money trumps the ppl & the Repubs hate when gov works
they would turn a profit, if congress wouldn't force them to pay all their benefits 75 years in advance, not to mention the postal service is not run on our federal tax dollars. But when live in a country where up is down, and Jesus is part of the 1%. America, suspend all logic.
They close libraries, firehouses, NASA, defund arts and sciences, defund after school and community programs. Cant fund Social Security, can't fund the Postal Service.
BUT THEY ALWAYS HAVE MONEY FOR THEIR MASS INCARCERATION AND WARS, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. They always have money to build entire infrastructures everywhere they destroy them. But it's money borrowed from foreign nations, our children to repay.
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Bernie Sanders has this topic covered perfectly. The Republicans passed a law that is forcing the Postal service into bankruptcy. The postal service is fucking brilliant and is a SOCIAL service and that hurts the Reich Wing.
Social Security - 2.4 Trillion Surplus
Post Office - Yearly profits now in the billions
But both getting fucked by the Reich Wing, fake left, Corporate owned congress.
@daguzify What you are saying is exactly right. The P.O. pension fund is flush with capital. But Congress won't let them access it for 2 reasons. The billions of $ are in the hands of the financial sector and they wouldn't like to have money that they control be reduced AND the right wingers like to prove that no government agency works. "Whatever it is, can be done better by the private sector," is their mantra. It just isn't true and the P.O. is a prime example.
the crooks in washington want to privatize the PO and put thousands of people that actually work for a living out of their jobs- the postal service should be a service-plain and simple-what kind of crappy country will we be without a postal service?
Right wingers win again. The post office is taxed to the tune of $5.5 billion per year to prefund retirement for the years 2017 thru 2092. This prefunding was mandated by the 2006 Congress to occur within ten years. We are prefunding for employees who haven't even been born. No other company or federal agency is required to make these payment. No company or agency would be profitable if required to do so.
This framing by conservatives is to rip billions in profits from USPS to make it look bad
So the US government is going to save money by putting 100 000 taxpaying workers on unemployment insurance, welfare, foodstamps and whatever other safety net hasn't yet been completely gutted? These workers aren't going to dissapear after they're layed off. Oh and let's not forget that the revenue from their incom tax is gone too... tsk tsk... how much money savings is that again? Smart move there.
Didn’t congress force the post office to fund their pensions through the next 15 years? If they didn’t over fund their pension, they would be in fine shape.
The problem is that the Internet has gutted the letter carrying market. The good news is that is has also created a huge parcel delivery market. That's good for government owned postal services in countries where there isn't a huge & competitive courier market (like here in Australia) but so good for the U.S postal service because the couriers take the profitable sector of the market (eg. bulk intercity delivery) & price themselves out of the market on the unprofitable sectors (eg. rural/low vo
@lShishkaBerryl Germany has it. What do you say to that? Look I'm tired of hearing you contards bitch about the post office. It works. If you want something to break, I suggest ramming your heads against a concrete wall.
I can't stop thinking that those must be some good cookies, because it is insane to pay $60 to ship a box of cookies. A box of cookies wouldn't even cost more than $10 !
@XdazeddreamerX Yes, but productive jobs, not welfare jobs for a dying industry. If we had a Federal sponsored blacksmith's union we'd still be paying 200,000 blacksmiths to make horse shoes we don't need. I don't need 20 lbs of environmentally destructive junk mail per week. Who does?
@vison2create The post office is still very relevant but, even leaving that aside, they've already cut 200,000 workers over the last 10 years. If companies want to send tons of junk mail, then charge them more and turn a bigger profit - it's still be cheaper than the private delivery services so companies will either bite the bullet or stop mailing junk.
@R4t10n4L Yes, I believe it is relevant and can reform it's business model to remain solvent. I do believe they should charge a lot more for junk mail rates, however, that will drop a lot of demand for junk mail services from the USPS. So to become profitable, they still need to re-align their labor costs and close some of their physical locations. They could keep some more of the phys locations by augmenting with other services. The British postal service did this with their system.
there trying to get ride of the postal servic so that every one got a googal {g-mail} so thet can read all your mail!! they can senser the country!! vote ron paul
woah woah woah, when did we go from cutting saturdays to cutting 100,000 employees? And inch has turned to a mile yet again. Go ahead you scumbags, and watch the protests swell with the postal union.
lol ok no profit, i could see non profit but If our corn crop didn't create a profit,their would be no more corn anymore. lol Entire seedless crop would be bad, very bad, but ok at the post office.
@joshie92 i was talking more of the lines of seeds, put one seed in the ground and get many back. If a plant didn't do this it wouldn't survive. We harvest these seeds for another crop and to eat.
@joshie92 Solution to this problem either raise productivity, or raise stamp prices, or cut workers wages. I would choose to Raise Stamp Prices to over $1.
@Budvb I'm not from the USA so I don't know how your postal service works, but things like postal services, education, healthcare etc are not like other businesses in that profit should not be their primary objective, if an objective at all. The only time they should cut expenses is if they are making a big loss.
@joshie92 I agree, the whole purpose of a Doctor is to help the weak become strong again. How can someone put a money value on that. But, we as the new generation has alot of questions to ask and how to find the solutions to these problems so we all may live in harmony. If i had to narrow it all down to one source it would be the morals of man that needs to see each of us together on this planet and try to help each other. To many see money as reality when all it is a unit of measure 4 exchange.
I would support them hiring 100,000 people. I feel so badly for the workers at my local post office. They just can not accomodate the volume of people that go there. You can't run the office with two people working at the desk, it is awful.
OK I normally don't comment but actually the usps don't receive government money. they are funded totally by postage. the reason they are seeing revenue losses is because congress past a law in 2006 that made them prefund 75 years of pensions in a 10 year window. what's more amazing that they are mandated to deliver everywhere in the us regardless if it is profitable. fex ex and ups won't. also usps handles 30% of fed ex and ups deleveries.
Hey lets start by cutting all the excess congressional staff. Each Congressman and Senator get one aide and one secretary. Anything else comes out of their own personal funding.
i think even Somalia has a postal service. welcome to the US, where we may, in a few short years, be the only country on the planet without a national postal service......
I think it was actually said that USPS actually HAD a surplus.... but Republicans cooked the books and it looks like they are losing money. It was about how they have to pay IN ADVANCED the benefits for their employees. (Not to them but for them WHEN they retire.) I think it was on Real Time.
You guys know what's going to happen right? Less Postal Workers mean slower mail deliveries hence more disgruntled PS workers and more impatient fustrated customers and everyone starts emailing and workers quit their jobs ending in eliminating the US Postal Service completely.
They did the same in the UK with a comparative number years ago and the end results didn't change. We still got our post and grannys get their pension.
Computers replace bodies in the sorting offices. They're not interested in just paying people an income, its about profit.
Also most these people lob about all day talking shit and drinking coffee anyway.
@mecher3k That was about what I expected you to say.
It doesn't make any difference if it's the "US postal service" or where the money is going and for what the exact sneaky corrupt reasons are. Its still the same overall government business format as the UK. the situation is still the same. The end results are still the same as per my first comment you replied to perfectly applies.
"as befalls England America follows" I wouldn't expect you to have a grasp of that considering your disposition.
@Zero7evenX You do realize the post office isn't about making profit right? It's a constitutionally recognized necessary establishment, and it is completely able to run on it's own revenue from stamps...right up until a (r) sponsored bill required them to reserve something like 75 yrs worth of retirement funds in 5 years, which was designed to put the post office in the exact position it's in now.
I have to tell you, I have just about lost the very last shred of hope I have left in me. It is depressing me just to look at the news from TYT. Looks like we are almost a third-world country. A couple years and we just may be there. The "greatest" country in the world is really in a sad state.
@jesse1018 - What movement? I doubt OWS will succeed. Nothing will. Us Gen Xers knew this for some time now. It's all the Boomers screaming MINE! MINE! MINE! that's destroyed this country, and we're not allowed to tell them they're wrong. They just ignore us and keep on driving us in to bankruptcy as fast as they can. As long as they get theirs, they don't give a shit about anyone else. Hell, they even turn on each other. Just look how they took away each other's pensions! All for $.
@LeksServices Standing by and doing nothing is the surest way to get nothing accomplished. The greatest weapon the opposition can use is convincing you resistance is futile. Don't be defeatist, be a part of the solution.
Congress manufactured this issue with the Post Office years ago by requiring funding pensions @ such high rates even future employees’ pensions. If the PO was allowed to fund like other agencies then the PO would be in the black. Just like commandeering Social Security surplus to pay for wars etc then blaming SS for this manufactured crisis.
@msgerto You are exactly right, it is something like 90 years in advanced pensions! Not to mention, FedEx and UPS use the postal service to finish deliveries to rural areas all over the country without paying USPS a dime.
For real? That's insanity! Any good start on where a person could read more about that (will Google of course, just wondering if you know a particularly good site). Anyway, thanks for that bit... super curious about how that's able to happen.
@grimcity There was a great interview with the post master general on the Diane Rehm show a couple of weeks ago and I think the NY Times had an article about it. The Congress changed the pension rules during the GWB adminstration. (I am sure there is no surprise there) I hope this helps.
The postal system is the second basic need in any advanced civilization. After security, police & Army protecting a country, the second thing that gets a country functionning is the postal system. Yes it worked before 1850 all over before the train was actually running. If they take it away, it shows that our leaders today are ready to tear the 2 century old civilization down....for the profit of their friends, the one sthat own fedex or else. Good report, love the humor of these two guys
Why are they cutting almost NECESSARY parts of the government and keeping crap that they can do away with? We're wasting SO much money on useless Defense, why not cut THAT?!?!
I come from a Postal Family, both my parents were career postal workers, I think it's a fine profession. Without the US postal service, the USA would be fucked!
Public infrastructure (ie the Post Office) was never meant to earn a profit. The purpose of infrastructure is to lower the cost of doing business, thus increasing the competitiveness of the economy.
I mean this is really ridiculous! If you want to cut government spending. Hmmm. Where to begin? Perhaps the military budget. The US military budget has to be the biggest fucking elephant in the room ever! You talk about cutting 100 000 postal workers while spending trillions on stupid counterproductive wars, etc... And the rich wonder why people are angry as hell! This is truelly Orwellian!
The post office is outdated anyway! Nobody writes letters anymore, we pay our bills over the phone or by internet, all I ever get in the mail now is junk!
Washington lobbyist are for privatizing the US Postal Service so they can steal the retirement fund and more from these hard working citizens and more greed for the 1%.
This is a phony issue. The Post Office was forced by Congress to over contribute to the pension fund.
The Post Office is in good shape. They can easily fix the small problem at hand. Raise the junk mail rate and stop the over contribution to the pension fund.
Everyone can help too - request and buy from catalog outlets! If you are looking for a job, you should really mail out your resumes.
how come these two prize dolts don't complain about what athletes, movie actors, singers, Hollywood moguls make each year with a small fraction of the education Wall St guys have?
if Kim Kardashian can make tens of millions showing off her fat, much used ass, I don't mind a big bonus paid to a Wall St broker for example.
our priorities in America are totally screwed up. little wonder we are in a big decline
@genie0390 The problem is not that there are rich people. We're not criticizing wealth itself, but corruption - and it's not the Hollywood stars & pro athletes that are behind the corruption, it's Wall St (to put it simply). People should be allowed to be successful (even if it's just for having a fat ass, hey that's entertainment I guess), but they should not be allowed to pay off politicians and run our government.
@genie0390 - You said: "how come these two prize dolts don't complain about what athletes, movie actors, singers, Hollywood moguls make each year with a small fraction of the education Wall St guys have"?
I say: BECAUSE THE 'PEOPLE' WERE NOT FORCED TO BAIL OUT THE ATHLETES, MOVIE ACTORS, SINGERS OR HOLLYWOOD MOGULS ETC!....
BUT EVERYBODY HAD TO BAIL OUT FUCKING WALL-STREET, YOU STUPID DOLT!
PRIORITIES IN AMERICA ARE SCREWED UP....AND THE FUCKING CORRUPT POLITICIANS DID NOTHING TO STOP IT!
@genie0390 - Yes, the corporate lobbyists got bailed out too (Chrysler etc)...But you're too stupid & blinkered to have understood my point when I initially replied to your senseless diatribe!....
NOBODY WAS 'FORCED' TO BAIL OUT THE 'ARTISTS OR ATHLETES/SPORTS MEN & WOMEN'.... WE WERE ALL 'FORCED' TO BAIL OUT THE FAILED CORPORATE LOBBYISTS & FAILED BANKS!
THE OPERATIVE WORD HERE IS 'FORCED' AS IN WE WERE NOT GIVEN A FUCKING CHOICE!
Tea Party Republicans where are all of the jobs? Everytime I look up they are trying to cut govt. spending (jobs).......... I'm sure they've got some democrats to sign on but we all know who's driving these kinds of proposals!!!
Haha I love the U.S far-right dominionist-dominated corporate government's road to reduce unemployment.
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This is amusing.
It's like this bank here in Sweden that gave a mutlimillion dollar apartment plus massive pension to the CEO while at the same time sacking hundreds of employees.
"I love the U.S far-right dominionist-dominated corporate government's road to reduce unemployment."
since 2006 we had Dem control of Congress and since 2008 Dems controlled all 3 branches of Gov't, SO DON"T YAP about "far-right" and unemployment, you commie dimwit
as for your bank, according to your past gibberish Sweden does sooo very well at regulating, perhaps you don't know of what you speak
let me educate u, senior executives usually enter into CONTRACTS
If you didn't notice, Obama does bend to all Republican demands and have thus not fulfilled a single campaign promise, hence he is an agent of the far-right. Maybe your eyes hurt, little genie.
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Yea well we have a more marketfriendly government now, and yea, he enters a contract, as do everybody who is employed, at any given place or time. This was a typical pension gift for bank directors, incredibly expensive and costly, thus inappropriate.
This will help Fed-Ex and UPS. You pay taxes that never reach the intended destination. How about shadow gov agencies that aren't bound by law. Corporations are sooo obviously taking over.
With email, fax, PDAs, IMs, debit cards, etc WE DO NOT NEED THE POST OFFICE. So we get junk mail, WOW. This is 2011. Cut more than 100,000. Cut Saturday delivery.
@KiheiLawyer how bout ebay, netflix, and other physical commodities. The post office is more then just a letter carrier. An exchange of goods and products is needed for a good economy.
Just this last year, they combined our post office (in a rather large and growing suburb) with another that's 10 mi away from our old one (which was already 5 or so mi away from our house). So now our mail comes at 3 or 4 instead of 11. Does this mean that when they cut these workers (cuz they just love cutting gov employees) our mail will come at 7 or 8?
@IMPALEXANDERAVG I get mail. I like getting mail. Maybe you have no friends, but I like getting mail from my friends. Also, our tax dollars don't go to the post office, the post office would pay for itself if the conservatives hadn't straddled them with having to pre-pay their benefits for 75 years. If they were allowed to operate like every other business in the world they would be fine.
@IMPALEXANDERAVG This is a perfect example of a brainwashed sheep not looking at the facts and instead puking out whatever they can think up...which is usually force fed by the idiot extremist media.
Lemme break it down for you brother, despite email being used for a lot of personal and business mail nowadays, there's one thing that the mail is required for, and that's trade. Buying, selling, or even just sending a gift and such. Good luck getting your packages in your email. :]
@Spentastic The question is not why vote but why not vote third party? Even if you look at it as throwing your vote away, it is better than doing nothing with your vote.
The Postal Service will need to change its business model in order to survive. If the Congress refuses to change their mandate, then perhaps, they need to privatize the postal service. Just as FedEx and UPS have added to their services. They dont just deliver packages. FedEx even bought out Kinkos. The Postal Service not only has to compete with FedEx and UPS, they have to change their services to compete with email, faxes, ipads, and other electronic means of communication.
josephc28 2 weeks ago
Just announced today 35,000 postal workers will be laid off, a necessary evil I am afraid, know a guy working for the postal service, I have been with my current employer for 20 years, while he has been with the postal service for roughly the same time. I am an educated, engineer, and receive 4 weeks of paid vacation, he has a 3rd grade education and is allowed 7 weeks of paid annual leave, nearly two months off a year. The rest of us are feeling the bite, postal workers should too.
dogwood912 2 weeks ago
LOL so it loses money fine thats ok?? LMAO complete idiot.......this is 2011-2012....EMAIL is king.....dump the postal service...
rgard32 1 month ago in playlist Broken Government
The fucking job killing Republicans at it again. We need to layoff the slimy, lazy motherfuckers in Washington, not Postal workers.
ridewave444 2 months ago
When considering large numbers, it is useful to use 1 second as being equal to 1 dollar, so that 1 millon dollars would be about 12 days.of seconds. These are approximations, And 1 billion would be about 32 years, and a trillion would be about 32000 years. Spending the Koch brothers fortunes, of $45 billion, they could spend $10 dollars each second&would go broke in 144 years spending $846,000 each day. Being wealthy must be nice.
nash984954 2 months ago in playlist Broken Government
Some services just aren't going to turn a profit whilst maintaining a dignified and respectable work environment. Poor USPS employees. :(
threadsofchii 2 months ago in playlist Broken Government
lets cut our reps jobs, all they represent are huge companys
ranth44 3 months ago in playlist Broken Government
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Postal workers are lazy, inbred, retarded gorillas with surly attitudes who think the world owes them a living. If the USPS wants to fix their budget they need to cull the herd.
Jefgg 3 months ago
Thats Jew for those who don't know German
Hugh983 3 months ago in playlist Broken Government
Leiberman is a Jude name
Hugh983 3 months ago in playlist Broken Government
why is this a big deal anyway who even needs mail anymore why can't you just get your mail online
aliensupremacy 3 months ago
@aliensupremacy your right! we don't even need USPS anymore we can email now thats all we need USPS is a wast!
sscomphelpss 3 months ago
...dude reminds me of Brick (Steve Carell).
UserUnfriendly21 3 months ago
~^In 2006 REPUBLICAN legislators mandated that the U.S. Postal Service(USPS) begin a 10 yr process of pre-paying all health & retirement benefits for all employees it may hire up to 75 yrs from now! THE GOAL: To create the ILLUSION that USPS, a NON tax payer funded profit making agency, is on the verge of FINANCIAL COLLAPSE! REPUBLICANS want to lay off 625,000 AMERICANS & PRIVATIZE USPS . ~~^~^~^~^^^^^^^^^ REPUBLICAN RACKETEERING & GREED ARE DESTROYING AMERICA!
poindexterwitkowsky 4 months ago
What? $50,000 for a postal job? Man you Americans have got it good!
mrbeanbag 4 months ago in playlist Broken Government
Brian UNGER is so fucking right
t221000 4 months ago
Where is Cenk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
jacobburns909 4 months ago
@jacobburns909 Occupy Oakland. Pay attention.
DoesThisOffendYou 4 months ago
Get rid of the Inspection Service.These bums take a cut from the drug dealers,bookies,and loan sharks,then bust them if they don't pay.
ImDavidGurney 4 months ago
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Instead of cutting the PO, expand it! Yes, Uncle Zippy should OWN all of the zip code dot COMS. Let's start with 10012 10013 11568 11976 11962 90210 94010 07620 93108 94027 oh and throw in 90809 DOT COM in there, LB is a City of Many Firsts. Then SELL an "at90809dotCom" address to the businesses there. See where I'm going with this? (I used to own 90809 ( dot com ) but registerfly went down;)
ThePrimeSpotcom 4 months ago
Especially the dude on the left.
Domzdream 4 months ago
Stop talking over each other. That's just bloody rude man.
Domzdream 4 months ago 2
Cenk had a video on this about how the postal service IS technically turning a profit. Its bush legislation that makes it look like its not. Was that incorrect?
SezSays 4 months ago
@SezSays No your right. There's a sane way to fix the post office but gov's trying to avoid fixing things these days. They're busy with commemorative coins and reminding us that the US's motto is "In God We Trust".
LancePoint9 4 months ago
I think the last part of the segment was probably the most telling - "who's the person standing up for these everyday workers"?
No one is. Not the Democrats and certainly not the Republicans. And that's why the Postal worker's dilemma is gonna be YOURS, if it isn't already.
Bankstercide 4 months ago
I think this video misses key point about the P.O. It consistently operates at a profit, the only gov dept that does. They were mandated by Congress to fully fund their pension plan far into the future (like 75 years). So much has been diverted they can't meet their expenses. The pension fund has billions. All that needs to happen is to access that hunk of $... problem solved. Why not do it? Because the financial sector wouldn't like it. Big money trumps the ppl & the Repubs hate when gov works
OurWorldReport 4 months ago
NO, thats the kind of service you get from UPS. At lease FedEx delivers the package to the right house.
KamilyonEnterprise 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
i like how the rest of the world is moving forward except for america.. moving backwards..
PewPewv123 4 months ago in playlist Flere videoer fra TheYoungTurks 3
@PewPewv123 America is simply this: 1 step forward, 100 steps back.
Stingerbillion 4 months ago
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they would turn a profit, if congress wouldn't force them to pay all their benefits 75 years in advance, not to mention the postal service is not run on our federal tax dollars. But when live in a country where up is down, and Jesus is part of the 1%. America, suspend all logic.
JohnMRay 4 months ago
They close libraries, firehouses, NASA, defund arts and sciences, defund after school and community programs. Cant fund Social Security, can't fund the Postal Service.
BUT THEY ALWAYS HAVE MONEY FOR THEIR MASS INCARCERATION AND WARS, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. They always have money to build entire infrastructures everywhere they destroy them. But it's money borrowed from foreign nations, our children to repay.
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robinhoodtheorem 4 months ago 3
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robinhoodtheorem 4 months ago
omg we have to start sending xmas cards a month earlier thnx to lieberman, btw that name sounds familiar
tecellos 4 months ago
Bernie Sanders has this topic covered perfectly. The Republicans passed a law that is forcing the Postal service into bankruptcy. The postal service is fucking brilliant and is a SOCIAL service and that hurts the Reich Wing.
Social Security - 2.4 Trillion Surplus
Post Office - Yearly profits now in the billions
But both getting fucked by the Reich Wing, fake left, Corporate owned congress.
daguzify 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks 3
@daguzify What you are saying is exactly right. The P.O. pension fund is flush with capital. But Congress won't let them access it for 2 reasons. The billions of $ are in the hands of the financial sector and they wouldn't like to have money that they control be reduced AND the right wingers like to prove that no government agency works. "Whatever it is, can be done better by the private sector," is their mantra. It just isn't true and the P.O. is a prime example.
OurWorldReport 4 months ago
These two presenters DO NOT WORK TOGETHER... they talk over each other all the time and it turns into a rabble.
celt67 4 months ago
A cheap postal service with 100% coverage is essential for a country, it shouldn't be cut.
HWGuyEG 4 months ago 5
the crooks in washington want to privatize the PO and put thousands of people that actually work for a living out of their jobs- the postal service should be a service-plain and simple-what kind of crappy country will we be without a postal service?
santasxgirlfriend 4 months ago 3
Well at least this means that not everybody loses their job.
unknownshadow1993 4 months ago
They are REALLY fucking desperate to avoid raising taxes on the super rich, aren't they. I mean god damn.
unhealthytruthseeker 4 months ago 2
Right wingers win again. The post office is taxed to the tune of $5.5 billion per year to prefund retirement for the years 2017 thru 2092. This prefunding was mandated by the 2006 Congress to occur within ten years. We are prefunding for employees who haven't even been born. No other company or federal agency is required to make these payment. No company or agency would be profitable if required to do so.
This framing by conservatives is to rip billions in profits from USPS to make it look bad
couch115 4 months ago 3
i'm going to get a pen pal to support the postal service
whyb3t 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
Look the postal service and all other essential government services should at least break even..................
34601k 4 months ago
Yay Susan Collins and Joe Lieberman..
oprichniki12 4 months ago
So the US government is going to save money by putting 100 000 taxpaying workers on unemployment insurance, welfare, foodstamps and whatever other safety net hasn't yet been completely gutted? These workers aren't going to dissapear after they're layed off. Oh and let's not forget that the revenue from their incom tax is gone too... tsk tsk... how much money savings is that again? Smart move there.
canuckartist 4 months ago 2
Didn’t congress force the post office to fund their pensions through the next 15 years? If they didn’t over fund their pension, they would be in fine shape.
Blairtim69 4 months ago
The problem is that the Internet has gutted the letter carrying market. The good news is that is has also created a huge parcel delivery market. That's good for government owned postal services in countries where there isn't a huge & competitive courier market (like here in Australia) but so good for the U.S postal service because the couriers take the profitable sector of the market (eg. bulk intercity delivery) & price themselves out of the market on the unprofitable sectors (eg. rural/low vo
tvsinesperanto 4 months ago
wtf saturday delivery? who the hell needs that? never heard of any other country having saturday delivery
lShishkaBerryl 4 months ago
@lShishkaBerryl Germany has it. What do you say to that? Look I'm tired of hearing you contards bitch about the post office. It works. If you want something to break, I suggest ramming your heads against a concrete wall.
Newenlightenmentnow 4 months ago 3
@Newenlightenmentnow i say i learned something new today!
im in canada anyway so the usps has little impact on me afaik, aside from getting cheaper shipping on things i buy online.
lShishkaBerryl 4 months ago
I can't stop thinking that those must be some good cookies, because it is insane to pay $60 to ship a box of cookies. A box of cookies wouldn't even cost more than $10 !
michellex333 4 months ago 2
Wait... isn't Congress supposed to be working on gaining jobs?
XdazeddreamerX 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks 47
@XdazeddreamerX Yes, but productive jobs, not welfare jobs for a dying industry. If we had a Federal sponsored blacksmith's union we'd still be paying 200,000 blacksmiths to make horse shoes we don't need. I don't need 20 lbs of environmentally destructive junk mail per week. Who does?
vison2create 3 months ago
@vison2create The post office is still very relevant but, even leaving that aside, they've already cut 200,000 workers over the last 10 years. If companies want to send tons of junk mail, then charge them more and turn a bigger profit - it's still be cheaper than the private delivery services so companies will either bite the bullet or stop mailing junk.
R4t10n4L 3 months ago in playlist Broken Government
@R4t10n4L Yes, I believe it is relevant and can reform it's business model to remain solvent. I do believe they should charge a lot more for junk mail rates, however, that will drop a lot of demand for junk mail services from the USPS. So to become profitable, they still need to re-align their labor costs and close some of their physical locations. They could keep some more of the phys locations by augmenting with other services. The British postal service did this with their system.
vison2create 3 months ago
this idea is fucking stupid
AndrewMacedonia 4 months ago 2
there trying to get ride of the postal servic so that every one got a googal {g-mail} so thet can read all your mail!! they can senser the country!! vote ron paul
archangel88668866 4 months ago
Lets cut 100 Senator jobs.
tph2010 4 months ago 138
@tph2010 Now THAT is a good idea!
sillygoose544 4 months ago
@tph2010 let's at least cut their pay.
jenisedai 4 months ago
woah woah woah, when did we go from cutting saturdays to cutting 100,000 employees? And inch has turned to a mile yet again. Go ahead you scumbags, and watch the protests swell with the postal union.
AMagicalUsername 4 months ago
i Tried to send something to my sister in the OC 2 hours away from LA cause i didn't wanna drive but it was going to cost 30 bucks!!... lmao
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AMagicalUsername 4 months ago
'a bipartisan group of senators' LMAO
AMagicalUsername 4 months ago
The postal service is one of the few functions of government actually IN the Constitutio
magiorey 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks 2
lol ok no profit, i could see non profit but If our corn crop didn't create a profit,their would be no more corn anymore. lol Entire seedless crop would be bad, very bad, but ok at the post office.
Budvb 4 months ago
@Budvb That's because your example of corn production is in the private sector, so people are only going to grow corn if it is profitable to do so.
joshie92 4 months ago
@joshie92 i was talking more of the lines of seeds, put one seed in the ground and get many back. If a plant didn't do this it wouldn't survive. We harvest these seeds for another crop and to eat.
Budvb 4 months ago
@joshie92 Solution to this problem either raise productivity, or raise stamp prices, or cut workers wages. I would choose to Raise Stamp Prices to over $1.
Budvb 4 months ago
@Budvb I'm not from the USA so I don't know how your postal service works, but things like postal services, education, healthcare etc are not like other businesses in that profit should not be their primary objective, if an objective at all. The only time they should cut expenses is if they are making a big loss.
joshie92 4 months ago
@joshie92 I agree, the whole purpose of a Doctor is to help the weak become strong again. How can someone put a money value on that. But, we as the new generation has alot of questions to ask and how to find the solutions to these problems so we all may live in harmony. If i had to narrow it all down to one source it would be the morals of man that needs to see each of us together on this planet and try to help each other. To many see money as reality when all it is a unit of measure 4 exchange.
Budvb 4 months ago
they need to cut 100,000 NYPD officers
Primeaka 4 months ago
Favorite line: "They had to slash his pants."
edgeninja 4 months ago
I would support them hiring 100,000 people. I feel so badly for the workers at my local post office. They just can not accomodate the volume of people that go there. You can't run the office with two people working at the desk, it is awful.
herduliekdemmudkipz 4 months ago 2
OK I normally don't comment but actually the usps don't receive government money. they are funded totally by postage. the reason they are seeing revenue losses is because congress past a law in 2006 that made them prefund 75 years of pensions in a 10 year window. what's more amazing that they are mandated to deliver everywhere in the us regardless if it is profitable. fex ex and ups won't. also usps handles 30% of fed ex and ups deleveries.
djstar2k2 4 months ago 3
Fed Ex and UPS are like $8-15 from what I've seen lately. The same thing via USPS is like $4-8.
dEdGrimley 4 months ago 2
HR 1351 would fix the financial problems of the USPS.
MntlWard 4 months ago
Love how people fail to realize no work gets done without workers to do it...
MakoSharkX 4 months ago
Hey lets start by cutting all the excess congressional staff. Each Congressman and Senator get one aide and one secretary. Anything else comes out of their own personal funding.
petehjr1 4 months ago 3
post office? Mail? what the hell is that? DX
Gr4yW0rld 4 months ago
No one go near a post office any time soon in the US.
wolfwing1 4 months ago
End the wars if you want to save some money, the USPS is actually useful
ThatGuy1208 4 months ago
LOL
1:55 "and that's Possum."
JaqTheRipper12275 4 months ago
I hate when they start talking at the same time=/
joi12345678 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
if we retired from Afganistan it would save 2 billions a day
IdidnotFartedIswear 4 months ago
The Post Office creed: sounds like what we'll get if one of those specimens running for the Republican nod gets elected!
RadarKat73080 4 months ago
i think even Somalia has a postal service. welcome to the US, where we may, in a few short years, be the only country on the planet without a national postal service......
deveousdevil 4 months ago
I think it was actually said that USPS actually HAD a surplus.... but Republicans cooked the books and it looks like they are losing money. It was about how they have to pay IN ADVANCED the benefits for their employees. (Not to them but for them WHEN they retire.) I think it was on Real Time.
korusi 4 months ago
They have cookie's in Ohio.
CrisKG125 4 months ago
You guys know what's going to happen right? Less Postal Workers mean slower mail deliveries hence more disgruntled PS workers and more impatient fustrated customers and everyone starts emailing and workers quit their jobs ending in eliminating the US Postal Service completely.
LilacStar82 4 months ago 57
@LilacStar82 - Slippery slope = logical fallacy
gamegeek2 4 months ago
@LilacStar82 That's kind of the idea.
colddrake80 4 months ago
@colddrake80 Yeah I know. That's what I put.
LilacStar82 4 months ago
@LilacStar82 Just reinforcing what you said. Nothing like a policy built around enhancing the suck, eh?
colddrake80 4 months ago
@LilacStar82 I talked about this to a postal worker. He says that they want the extra revenue(the government etc) so they can borrow against it.
A31Chris 4 months ago
you heard pobama was going to cut spending, in the government cutting jobs means cutting spending
cjf334 4 months ago
get rid of the senile old man !
TheManSand322 4 months ago
Curbside service means your mailbox is at the curb instead of at your front door. Makes it so they can deliver the mail by truck instead of by foot.
mikebee02 4 months ago
@mikebee02 but what of the things that don't fit in the mailbox?
oAzREZNoR 4 months ago
these guys are clowns, people don't send as many letters, there should be cuts
dreicemoney 4 months ago
keep saturdays, cut mondays
dreicemoney 4 months ago
They did the same in the UK with a comparative number years ago and the end results didn't change. We still got our post and grannys get their pension.
Computers replace bodies in the sorting offices. They're not interested in just paying people an income, its about profit.
Also most these people lob about all day talking shit and drinking coffee anyway.
Zero7evenX 4 months ago
@Zero7evenX
Except you're a clueless UK citizen.
mecher3k 4 months ago
@mecher3k And why is that, oh intellectual and informed one?
Zero7evenX 4 months ago
@Zero7evenX
Because you are clueless as to why there is money problems in the first place.
Hint it's because of a certain bill passed thanks to Republicans.
Also retard, this is the US Post Office.
mecher3k 4 months ago
@mecher3k That was about what I expected you to say.
It doesn't make any difference if it's the "US postal service" or where the money is going and for what the exact sneaky corrupt reasons are. Its still the same overall government business format as the UK. the situation is still the same. The end results are still the same as per my first comment you replied to perfectly applies.
"as befalls England America follows" I wouldn't expect you to have a grasp of that considering your disposition.
Zero7evenX 4 months ago
@Zero7evenX
The only reason why money is a problem is because a bill passed that forces to cover pensions up to 75 years.
Otherwise there would be zero problems as it would be paying for itself.
mecher3k 4 months ago
@Zero7evenX You do realize the post office isn't about making profit right? It's a constitutionally recognized necessary establishment, and it is completely able to run on it's own revenue from stamps...right up until a (r) sponsored bill required them to reserve something like 75 yrs worth of retirement funds in 5 years, which was designed to put the post office in the exact position it's in now.
jesse1018 4 months ago 2
I have to tell you, I have just about lost the very last shred of hope I have left in me. It is depressing me just to look at the news from TYT. Looks like we are almost a third-world country. A couple years and we just may be there. The "greatest" country in the world is really in a sad state.
Nethr 4 months ago
@Nethr What are you willing to do to change it? Join a movement or a cause. Wrongs don't fix themselves.
jesse1018 4 months ago
@jesse1018 - What movement? I doubt OWS will succeed. Nothing will. Us Gen Xers knew this for some time now. It's all the Boomers screaming MINE! MINE! MINE! that's destroyed this country, and we're not allowed to tell them they're wrong. They just ignore us and keep on driving us in to bankruptcy as fast as they can. As long as they get theirs, they don't give a shit about anyone else. Hell, they even turn on each other. Just look how they took away each other's pensions! All for $.
LeksServices 4 months ago
@LeksServices Standing by and doing nothing is the surest way to get nothing accomplished. The greatest weapon the opposition can use is convincing you resistance is futile. Don't be defeatist, be a part of the solution.
jesse1018 4 months ago
Congress manufactured this issue with the Post Office years ago by requiring funding pensions @ such high rates even future employees’ pensions. If the PO was allowed to fund like other agencies then the PO would be in the black. Just like commandeering Social Security surplus to pay for wars etc then blaming SS for this manufactured crisis.
msgerto 4 months ago
@msgerto You are exactly right, it is something like 90 years in advanced pensions! Not to mention, FedEx and UPS use the postal service to finish deliveries to rural areas all over the country without paying USPS a dime.
nikkithebean 4 months ago
@nikkithebean
For real? That's insanity! Any good start on where a person could read more about that (will Google of course, just wondering if you know a particularly good site). Anyway, thanks for that bit... super curious about how that's able to happen.
grimcity 4 months ago
@grimcity There was a great interview with the post master general on the Diane Rehm show a couple of weeks ago and I think the NY Times had an article about it. The Congress changed the pension rules during the GWB adminstration. (I am sure there is no surprise there) I hope this helps.
nikkithebean 4 months ago
@nikkithebean
It does! Thanks for the info nikki! Cheers!
grimcity 4 months ago
The postal system is the second basic need in any advanced civilization. After security, police & Army protecting a country, the second thing that gets a country functionning is the postal system. Yes it worked before 1850 all over before the train was actually running. If they take it away, it shows that our leaders today are ready to tear the 2 century old civilization down....for the profit of their friends, the one sthat own fedex or else. Good report, love the humor of these two guys
hamrite 4 months ago
Any corporation(even if it's disguised as a branch of the government) that employs 100,000 people and pays that many wages is FOR PROFIT.
DackIsBack 4 months ago
How's this, Liberals, DOUBLE THE TEACHERS WAGES, DOUBLE the post office workers wages...
Let's see how that works out.
DackIsBack 4 months ago
Why are they cutting almost NECESSARY parts of the government and keeping crap that they can do away with? We're wasting SO much money on useless Defense, why not cut THAT?!?!
kirabook 4 months ago
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I come from a Postal Family, both my parents were career postal workers, I think it's a fine profession. Without the US postal service, the USA would be fucked!
sargetech 4 months ago
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sargetech 4 months ago
Public infrastructure (ie the Post Office) was never meant to earn a profit. The purpose of infrastructure is to lower the cost of doing business, thus increasing the competitiveness of the economy.
WilhelmDrake 4 months ago 26
@WilhelmDrake
Exactly.
Yvieneify 4 months ago
They do turn a profit, you guys should know that.
derberg19486 4 months ago
1:34 Is that the lawyer from 'It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia'?
Yolandra101 4 months ago
I mean this is really ridiculous! If you want to cut government spending. Hmmm. Where to begin? Perhaps the military budget. The US military budget has to be the biggest fucking elephant in the room ever! You talk about cutting 100 000 postal workers while spending trillions on stupid counterproductive wars, etc... And the rich wonder why people are angry as hell! This is truelly Orwellian!
buugiman78 4 months ago
The post office is outdated anyway! Nobody writes letters anymore, we pay our bills over the phone or by internet, all I ever get in the mail now is junk!
MultiSamTaylor 4 months ago
That's fucked...seriously fucked
fatdogwiggle 4 months ago
Washington lobbyist are for privatizing the US Postal Service so they can steal the retirement fund and more from these hard working citizens and more greed for the 1%.
brwneyesaz 4 months ago
This is a phony issue. The Post Office was forced by Congress to over contribute to the pension fund.
The Post Office is in good shape. They can easily fix the small problem at hand. Raise the junk mail rate and stop the over contribution to the pension fund.
Everyone can help too - request and buy from catalog outlets! If you are looking for a job, you should really mail out your resumes.
theautomaster 4 months ago
think of all the kids of those mail delivery people, 100,000+ more kids on welfare, and foodstamps....
odom602 4 months ago
You can sort of tell that RIchard is less than thrilled at being paired with Brian.
TheUrbanSquirrel 4 months ago
Yeah His Mommy is Gonna be Pissed!
SVUfannyc 4 months ago
how come these two prize dolts don't complain about what athletes, movie actors, singers, Hollywood moguls make each year with a small fraction of the education Wall St guys have?
if Kim Kardashian can make tens of millions showing off her fat, much used ass, I don't mind a big bonus paid to a Wall St broker for example.
our priorities in America are totally screwed up. little wonder we are in a big decline
genie0390 4 months ago
@genie0390 The problem is not that there are rich people. We're not criticizing wealth itself, but corruption - and it's not the Hollywood stars & pro athletes that are behind the corruption, it's Wall St (to put it simply). People should be allowed to be successful (even if it's just for having a fat ass, hey that's entertainment I guess), but they should not be allowed to pay off politicians and run our government.
kmstrothergarcia 4 months ago
@genie0390
"how come these two prize dolts don't complain about what athletes, movie actors, singers, Hollywood moguls "
Lol you love being a troll uh?
And Kardashian fat? Holy shit, you must think Holocaust victims are healthy.
mecher3k 4 months ago
@mecher3k
funny you being a liberal don't know much about asses!
Kim has a big ass, OK my saying fat is perhaps wrong seeing as how you're so fond of detail
genie0390 4 months ago
@genie0390 - You said: "how come these two prize dolts don't complain about what athletes, movie actors, singers, Hollywood moguls make each year with a small fraction of the education Wall St guys have"?
I say: BECAUSE THE 'PEOPLE' WERE NOT FORCED TO BAIL OUT THE ATHLETES, MOVIE ACTORS, SINGERS OR HOLLYWOOD MOGULS ETC!....
BUT EVERYBODY HAD TO BAIL OUT FUCKING WALL-STREET, YOU STUPID DOLT!
PRIORITIES IN AMERICA ARE SCREWED UP....AND THE FUCKING CORRUPT POLITICIANS DID NOTHING TO STOP IT!
12235117657598502586 4 months ago
@12235117657598502586
well you fucked up goof, unions at GM/Chrysler got bailed out too, reward for building shit cars
next time you need car or mortgage, don't go Wall St bank, go look up Geo Clooney at his Italian mansion, he'll help you, haha
btw, banks didn't get gifts of taxpayer money, they got LOANS to be paid back, you dimwit
companies that did get gifts like Solyndra are ALL Obowma's doing, NOT wall st
u need a brain
genie0390 4 months ago
@genie0390 - Yes, the corporate lobbyists got bailed out too (Chrysler etc)...But you're too stupid & blinkered to have understood my point when I initially replied to your senseless diatribe!....
NOBODY WAS 'FORCED' TO BAIL OUT THE 'ARTISTS OR ATHLETES/SPORTS MEN & WOMEN'.... WE WERE ALL 'FORCED' TO BAIL OUT THE FAILED CORPORATE LOBBYISTS & FAILED BANKS!
THE OPERATIVE WORD HERE IS 'FORCED' AS IN WE WERE NOT GIVEN A FUCKING CHOICE!
DO YOU COMPREHEND - TWEEZER BRAIN?
U NEED A HEART!
12235117657598502586 4 months ago
@12235117657598502586
tweezer brain? actually you screwed up dorkette, seeing as how you're in the UK, YOU weren't forced to do anything, ya know!
you should know that nobody here was forced to bailout any banks, free enterprise dictates that there should be consequences for wrong decisions
actually many solid banks were forced to take bailouts to mask the identity of those that needed it to prevent runs on banks
whereas I may need a heart, you definately need a brain
genie0390 4 months ago
Tea Party Republicans where are all of the jobs? Everytime I look up they are trying to cut govt. spending (jobs).......... I'm sure they've got some democrats to sign on but we all know who's driving these kinds of proposals!!!
jayskilliano 4 months ago 2
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Haha I love the U.S far-right dominionist-dominated corporate government's road to reduce unemployment.
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This is amusing.
It's like this bank here in Sweden that gave a mutlimillion dollar apartment plus massive pension to the CEO while at the same time sacking hundreds of employees.
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Just sickening priorities.
underbjorn 4 months ago
@underbjorn
"I love the U.S far-right dominionist-dominated corporate government's road to reduce unemployment."
since 2006 we had Dem control of Congress and since 2008 Dems controlled all 3 branches of Gov't, SO DON"T YAP about "far-right" and unemployment, you commie dimwit
as for your bank, according to your past gibberish Sweden does sooo very well at regulating, perhaps you don't know of what you speak
let me educate u, senior executives usually enter into CONTRACTS
genie0390 4 months ago
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@genie0390 ---
If you didn't notice, Obama does bend to all Republican demands and have thus not fulfilled a single campaign promise, hence he is an agent of the far-right. Maybe your eyes hurt, little genie.
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Yea well we have a more marketfriendly government now, and yea, he enters a contract, as do everybody who is employed, at any given place or time. This was a typical pension gift for bank directors, incredibly expensive and costly, thus inappropriate.
underbjorn 4 months ago
This will help Fed-Ex and UPS. You pay taxes that never reach the intended destination. How about shadow gov agencies that aren't bound by law. Corporations are sooo obviously taking over.
LetFreedomR1ng 4 months ago 2
Cut the livelihoods of 100,000
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Repeal H.R. 6407: Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006.
Unger and Eskow didn't even mention it. That should be mentioned whenever any Republican even whispers "post office."
matthewschark 4 months ago
that's like telling a business, yeah we know your making profit but we need you to to pay rent 60 years in the future, thanx.
eethry 4 months ago
These vids wouldn't be half as long if all the corny jokes were cut out.
urkelette 4 months ago
With email, fax, PDAs, IMs, debit cards, etc WE DO NOT NEED THE POST OFFICE. So we get junk mail, WOW. This is 2011. Cut more than 100,000. Cut Saturday delivery.
KiheiLawyer 4 months ago
@KiheiLawyer how bout ebay, netflix, and other physical commodities. The post office is more then just a letter carrier. An exchange of goods and products is needed for a good economy.
eethry 4 months ago
@eBe4IXcept Yup and it has nothing to do with retirements, it was done intentionally KNOWING this would happen.
Xenite227 4 months ago 12
Just this last year, they combined our post office (in a rather large and growing suburb) with another that's 10 mi away from our old one (which was already 5 or so mi away from our house). So now our mail comes at 3 or 4 instead of 11. Does this mean that when they cut these workers (cuz they just love cutting gov employees) our mail will come at 7 or 8?
SadisticSenpai61 4 months ago
If they cut a day, it should be Monday, not Saturday. Saturday is the only day we are home to sign for packages!
JEFF9K 4 months ago
@IMPALEXANDERAVG I get mail. I like getting mail. Maybe you have no friends, but I like getting mail from my friends. Also, our tax dollars don't go to the post office, the post office would pay for itself if the conservatives hadn't straddled them with having to pre-pay their benefits for 75 years. If they were allowed to operate like every other business in the world they would be fine.
BottleConcreteBlond 4 months ago
Fuck you. FedEx is awesome.
TehHangover 4 months ago
What's Scott Bakula doing on TYT?
Mills88 4 months ago
@IMPALEXANDERAVG This is a perfect example of a brainwashed sheep not looking at the facts and instead puking out whatever they can think up...which is usually force fed by the idiot extremist media.
Lemme break it down for you brother, despite email being used for a lot of personal and business mail nowadays, there's one thing that the mail is required for, and that's trade. Buying, selling, or even just sending a gift and such. Good luck getting your packages in your email. :]
RiotDragonX 4 months ago 3
When you need to start cutting back on your postal service...you are going down the shitter.
jamin69 4 months ago 3
@IMPALEXANDERAVG What happens if you want to send an object? Doubt you can send that through e-mails.
lapugenero 4 months ago
Hey we HAVE cookies in Ohio!
On topic, this just proves that Democrats do not = Liberal or Progressive. A replacement then, is required.
MysticEle 4 months ago
@MysticEle But he's talking about the ones he made himself for his mom. You know the personal touch.
Spentastic 4 months ago
Slashing 100,000 jobs. And Democrats agreed to this? Why vote?
Spentastic 4 months ago 42
@Spentastic The question is not why vote but why not vote third party? Even if you look at it as throwing your vote away, it is better than doing nothing with your vote.
KidOmniMan 4 months ago
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