Very impressive. Actually I really love your music choice, it really seems the only thing that fits to it. Never knew about post-mortem-fotography, its a pity we don't practice it anymore. Thank you for sharing.
There is nothing eerie about these photos it's how they wanted to remember them, alot of the children looked really peaceful and just look like they are asleep. I'm very fascinated with these photos.
It was a time in history when people wanted to remember their loved ones. I can see nothing wrong with these photos. And I agree with people who say that it appears death was close and therefore not as scary as now.
Back then early deaths were so common, almost to be expected in large poor families, and also many people were often very devout believers in heaven, so they found comfort where modern families might not.
I find death to be very fascinating and, truth be told, I feel rather jealous of the dead, their pain and suffering are over. There is no reason to fear death.
why do you feel you need to defend yourself? this video is what started me collecting. I have over 30 sleeping beauties which i cherish. It's a reminder to myself to get my fat ass up everyday and enjoy being with my children!
I admit the music was chilling, but nonetheless appropriate, and I can respect your feelings. When my dad died two years ago I wrote a rather angsty poem which probably creeped out some people who heard it, but most people liked it. As for the "vintage-film" effects, they looked pretty realistic, and I don't feel you were disrespectful at all.
The kids look robust even in death. They were not sick long enough to waste away. That's a testament to the nature of the deadly infectious diseases which killed children in the decades following invention of the camera. Diseases most people today never even heard and take for granted their their kids won't have them. In those days if you got sick you went to bed. Days later you would either stand up, or be carried off to the parlor to be photographed.
You can't win with the music. If the track is somber then you are just trying to increase the shock effect of the video's nightmare value. So, you change the music to something more festive and now you are disrespecting the dead.
The music in the other 'Victorian Era' videos really ruin it for me. I'd like this video more if the cheap shaky-picture effect was gone or not as noticeable. Otherwise great work!
What I find interesting is that I watched this with the sound down and whilst a little creepy in places I generally found the images just sad and poignant. However, at the end I turned the volume up and it took on a whole different, chilling feel. I agree with iriswiggle but I guess that grieving parents wouldn't be watching this for comfort anyway
That is sooo heart renderingly achingly sad to see these little young Kids dead ! They all look so peaceful as if they were sleeping! I cannot imaging the grief of a Mother or a Father who have lost a Child! it breaks my heart!
Little ones died in those days of things we can control and cure now pretty much... like .pneumonia, flu, even things like leukemia. People. in those days would have multiple children (no birth control) sometimes as many as 10 or 12. And still, they would lose half or more before they reached 6 years of age. What a dreadful time for those parents.
The music is absolutely horrendous not present in 1969-1970 when the video had been placed in Youtube. It is eeriedepressive. Parents that are grieving today would be even more depressed afterwards. The sound should be upscale to a resurrection with a positive tone like the sound of the woods, birds & running water. Even a slow lullaby or a religious song, toned down to a very slow lull would be acceptable. Parents should leave feeling comforted. What is comforting in this sound?
This is a very good video.and the music is a bit too sombre ,but it reflects the mood,,Although if i am honest i nearly had to run and change my trousers with the littler girl at 6:07 just as the credits role..jesus...
@ELECTRICCLOCK Modern med. & technology are wonderful, but not only does it make people fearful of death & dying, it also makes us weaker, more susceptible & prone to disease -- & so what we fear actually gains ground on us. I don't want to die, of course, but I wouldn't say I'm fearful of death or dying. In fact, I have a fascrination with many aspects of them.
@8Toktela8 I believe that you have done an awesome job with this vid, It reflects the Social and Economic structures of the time, A lot of us nowadays take for granted that we can have photographs of our children in an instant, and for literally cents per print, back then they were horrendously expensive, And when the worst happened, you only had one chance to remember them, And often people borrowed the money to do so, the filcker just helps one to focus more on the images shown.
Ok, so, I did read the description, and I respect you decision with music an all, and I agree that it is not disrespectful just not some people's cup of tea. However, the baby's eyes at the end just reduces the whole thing to being creepy and morbid rather than sad but beautiful like it should be seen, and that is disrespectful.
i found the video very interesting i am considering a career as a embalmer but the old film effect was quite annoying with the constant jumping also the sound effects where a bit to much a repeat of the music would of been fine.
Of course if the scene is too gruesome, then that's a no-brainer. But believe it or not, I HAVE been asked by family members for messy crime scene photos of their loved ones. Also, I have to take into consideration the world we live in now. I would hate to see a photograph of mine end up on the internet. My question is, when is it ok to deny a loved one a last photograph of their family member? We tend to only look at the morbid side of it. There is another side.
I'm a CSI for a large police department so I am very much used to photographs of the deceased. This type of photography does seem morbid but some people insist on photographing their deceased loved ones. I have been asked personally for crime scene pictures of a person's loved one. What can you say? No? It's a very tough decision to have to make. All people are different. Some want to remember the person as they were in life. Some want to remember their death. Weird, I know. But not too uncommon
wow what beautiful children they all are. they look so peaceful and with little or no money they look fantastic etc, the flowers the presentation i think they look there best in those days better than todays day so much more natural R.I.P little angels god bless all of yous xx
I think people have the pictures at the death is a remeberance of faces that are lost in time. I sincerly believe people didnt spend money on pictures during life because you have memories and a face to see. Some how when memories arent being made a on a regular basis faces tend to fade, I think this is a great way to remember a loved one.
The saddest part about all this is that you can see how so many of them died. The sunken eyes show that they are dehydrated and probably died of diarrhea. This was incredibly common in the nineteenth century, especially among children. Many of them could have been effectively treated with simple oral rehydration solutions of electrolytes and sugars which they could have made up in Victorian times had they known how.
I happen to find this fascinating. The fact that in the Victorian era people had so little money that their last rememberance of their loved ones who passed is through a photograph. If you didn't have a photo in life...you got one in death. Sad, yet fascinating.
@RachaelnCharlie I agree with you, but I also find it a bit eerie. I love old photographs...and gravestones too, and would love to know more about the people in and beneath them.
@kashmirpage The boy in the suit standing with his eyes shut. I'm sorry but that one is really eerie! And I'd like to know how long did it take for the photographer to show up.
The music is great, I just really didn't like the shaky camera effect. It would have been a lot better without that one element. Otherwise it was a nice presentation, although I've seen most of these pictures before.
I find this beautiful... the beauty of passing on is eminent in these photos. there is nothing to fear, and honestly, i am one who believes in carrying on this tradition.
So sad they died so young but that's just not right taking a picture of them after they died. That why you should take alot of picture of them when they are still alive.
i have a question. how can people tell the difference between a picture of an alive person posed and a post mortem picture? is there a way they can just tell?
@xellosalina1 its a subtle difference in some cases...but the brain is very good at detecting stuff like when the mucles in the body are relaxed fully...which could never happen even if they were in a coma...
The mortality rate of children at the turn of the 20th century was rather high. I think like 1 in 4 wouldn't make it to the age of 5. Mostly communicable diseases like polio or diptheria were the main cause. My grandfather and all his brothers had polio as small children and 2 of them died from it.
the faces of the live people say everything of how they feel. Some of the children are still plump so they must have died quickly or early in their illness. the ones with a lot of weight loss must have suffered a long time before death.
The little girl in the chair with all of her dolls..so sad...The poor parents and siblings. I prefer the natural surrounding and no gross makeup like they do today.These photos are beautiful, how they adorn their departed!
In death, a grieving mother, father, or sibling, will cling to whatever connection they can with a lost child or sibling...so many young ones lost back then...it is the grief in the eyes of the ones left behind that is so heart breaking...
I don't know why anyone should be disturbed by this. Sure, the set up is entirely different but lest we forget we still do post-mortem photographs to this day. Only we call it records instead of preservation.
this was most probably very comforting to the families. many during those times lost their loved one to diseases that are common today but back then unknown. it is a celebration of their lives. a family record passed through the generations. not disturbing to me at all. death is a part of life and this is how back then they paid homage to the deceased. they viewed death very differently back then
Actually, I believe the music to be perfect. I doubt, seriously doubt, any ambient music artist, even one as talented as Brian Eno, who said, " As soon as I hear a sound, it always suggests a mood to me," could do better. Put another way as did the late Stanley Kubrick, "The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it."
@Anselcat1952 - No, this music might tickle your fancy but it dishonest. The music is not in the spirit the original photos were taken in. It's a lame attempt at being s-s-scary by evoking ghosts and fear and panic, a product of our current culture's puerile fascination with death. The culture that these photographs originate from knew death in a much more familiar way than we do, since they had high child mortality and shorter life span. PIctures are interesting, but the music is stupid
@decimated550 I accept your criticism, but I still like the atmospherics of the score. To me it fits. I actually have a post-mortem photo of my grandfathers dead infant brother. I do not know when the photo was taken, but I do know my grandfather was born in 1885. The dead brother was never really spoken of, though Grampy (who died in 1964) told me of him and the reason for the photo when as a kid I asked. It is daguerreotype in an ornate book-style hinged case.
@Anselcat1952 - I just didn't like the music. It seems to want to make the viewer feel worse, more nervous about things already, i mean we have 6 minutes of dead children killed by ailments which modern medicine has long since exterminated. I'd be happier with a soundtrack which suggests, inasfar as music can suggest a mood, of celebration, honor, loss, remembrance.
But hey as long as it has special personal significance to you then then no one can take that away.
I agree entirely Anselcat1952. The soundtrack suggests so much in such an economical way; the unknown, the timeless, sadness, sorrow and yes - even a little fear. Just a few sensations generated so simply.
They look so natural, like sleeping angels..there's nothing to fear from the dead and I think it would be very comforting having your child lying in your home as opposed to an embalmed body laying on a slab somewhere in the funeral home..
Yeah, it's like you're watching this video of children who have died, and then as you'
re seeing everything and feel kind of freaked out in a sort of way and then just as you get to the last baby, you almost jump at the eyes opening. It was very creepy in my opinion. the video was done right, in a tasteful way and the music wasn't something horrible, sort of like something played on the alien movie and then, here come the eyes.
Very moving.... Some of the deceased have died from agonising fevers for which there was no treatment and it shows.
I remember seeing dead children displayed in the windows of houses in Spain. This was way back in the 50's. Very unsettling for me as I was quite young too.
Not all morbid though as it shows great affection, Remeber that infant mortality was commonplace then.
The only ones that disturb me are those which feature the living siblings, but these were different times
IT SEEMS TO ME THE CHILDREN WHERE LOVED AND EVEN IN DEATH CARED FOR not like the poor little ones made angels too soon the abused and exploited and missig children
you're right, there is still lot of love here. These pictures are far away the common macabre; all the children seem sleeping serenely, and posing for the last time , in their most beautiful clothes, with toys, around some delicate flowers.
I suppose it's difficile to understand for us now that these photographies were made by the "living people", in a very short tragid moment, in a "between passage" , like a last hommage and an eternal picture before their real disparition.
Strange in the present when the dead are whisked away right after death never to be seen again. I thought all of the photos were very tasteful and given the technology of the times it was appropriate to remember loved ones some way. These people saw death so much, although sad, they could keep their composure. Since death happens to all of us, perhaps it is better to become used to it.
good for you standing by your own artistic vision. what strikes me about victorian era "sleeping beauties" are how angelic and beautiful these dead children are...not yet spoiled by the world and it's chaos. they are truly those spirits whose purity did not require them to linger long in this mortal existence. the old saying that "the good die young" is true. not only that, but photographers of that era had an artistic calling to portray these loved ones so that they wouldn't be forgotten.
what an amazing record of the popular fashion of photographing one's own deceased , i attended a photographic exibition on death at bradford's museum of photography many years ago and saw similar images , very poiniant !!!!
@romzom666 I re-watched this after reading your comment, and I just caught the eyes popping open! Just as the credits went over it wasn't it? Very creepy.
Hey dick ! It was a light hearted joke! How about taking the time to read my other post if you have the mental fortitude to find it. My part of the country was plagued by infant and toddler mortality and my family still posess some books . Dont act like you weren't trying to make it creepy or macabe. Otherwise you wouldv'e chosen aother line of music. I wonder if you are showing respect to the family of the deceased by getting permission to post images...thought not! Good night sweet EMO
@alonelysock Tradition and it was the only way that most families could have a picture of their loved one. Victorians also viewed death a lot differently than we do today.
@alonelysock Maybe not to the extent of making it seem like a normal photograph, but I'm sure there are people who will take pictures of someone at a viewing or a wake. This makes me wonder if there are other cultures that would do something like this even today.
OMG...thankyou for making this clip...i feel so priveledged to have seen these beautiful children.....from so ling ago.great work....I love it its is so beautiful and macarbe at the same time.....bet they never thought so many peiople would beable to view them....on youtube....wow.amazing presentation,and perfect music that is really appropriate.thanx again..R.I.P....young brave children.<3
I hesitated before watching, but while this left me in tears, I found it a haunting tribute to the fragility of life and a memorial that will now live forever to these children who lived and died so long ago. Who would have imagined back then that well over a hundred years after their deaths, people all over the world would see at least a glimpse of who they once were and know that they had lived and played and loved and been loved. And the music suits the mood perfectly.
It's so sad that these children had to die so young. Back then there was no medication for illnesses they died from. I can't begin to imagine anything worse than losing a child. But the video was very tastefully done and very respectful. R.I.P.
i have always found some facination with the victorians . i have been lookin everywhere for these kind of picturs as like you said it was the only way the can carry on and see there loved ones . the peace they show of there death is not the same kind of peace we have and i respect the way they deal with death . as much as they are hard to look at the love they show for them is warm and the children look at peace too
Strange feelings after I saw this video, In my hometown in sount of Italy they have graves from that era and most of the childrens pictures on the graves are post mortem one, it is very difficult and scary to be there...I always have to pass there to be able to bring some flowers to my grand parents...so maccaber but i surely understand why they did it...:(
love the video but when u explain about the music it pissed me off. you say you are an artist but art has to a creation from the soul. this s what anyone can do, find photos and put music to them. they are not your photos you didnt take them so maybe the sound you call music is your art but the photos are not they are someone else kids art and memories. it was cool but then i got pissed .
@darkangel57821 sorry ment they are someone else kids, art and memories lol also the music used im pretty sure i heard from a movie in the 80's maybe a zombie flick not sure
people do lots of strange things when they lose family members some people carry on as if nothing as happened washing there clothes just like they just wony let it into there mind
@ajs3939 i think its horrid this person who made they eyes open ruin a memorial photo like that ><. i mean that photo is angelic (as the family ment it to be) then its ruined. sorry im kinda way into this as my family has the same tradition and we have albums of our dead.
I am just curious, what if one of these turned out to be a premature burial case? I have heard that premature burial was very common during the 19th century because of the lack of medical instruments that could tell if a person was deceased or not.
I love the Dark Ambient that accompanies the images it adds such depth to these darkly beautiful photos, ones I've not come across before I might add.
To think that just a short time before many of those sweet little children were out hopscotching, running, playing with dolls and marbles, laughing, loving life.
I've never felt the sensations of both a sense of eerie dread and of heart-rending grief to the point of tears at the same time and now I have. I'm glad you didn't play highly emotional music as that would have been almost unbearable.
as a mother myself i can see the pain on the faces of the parents just think how hard it must have been for some of them to afford the picture of there child i think you have done a beautiful job these children make me think of angels i think it shows a little of our history as well godbless our little ones
they look so peaceful. For many, photography wasn't financially available all the time, and so they didn't have many images of their loved ones. Much like we spend a LOT of money for funerals and wakes for our late relatives and friends (when do we do this when they're alive?!) they would "splurge" for a last memory of their loved one. It's not the youtuber's personal photos so I don't see hwy people are saying he/she is being wrong! Good job :) Love it.
The most difficult part of observing these photos are the looks on the parents' and siblings' faces....how heartbreakingly difficult it must have been for them.
The fevers during this era wrecked havoc on children.I live in a rural area and all the older graveyards are filled with children under 5 years old....very sad
Im not keen on the creepy music in only the aspect that it makes the babies death seem creepy and its not. Otherwise I really appreciated the thought you put into this and the actual beauty of it once one understands the reason for the trend, it is amazing.
In a way, most of these children look like they are at peace, or are peaceful. The healthcare was not as good back then as it is today, God bless their little hearts.
Thanks for leaving a bit of history. People don't understand how different things were at one time.
mrfire3776 1 day ago
Very impressive. Actually I really love your music choice, it really seems the only thing that fits to it. Never knew about post-mortem-fotography, its a pity we don't practice it anymore. Thank you for sharing.
odicht 1 week ago
i hope you resolve your ideas about this. Death is the common denominator to all life.w/successful life,many transitions are a triumph too
TheSunIsBlack 1 week ago
Why they are mostly children?
anatalita0 1 week ago
I felt sad watching this. I want to be at peace with death, I think you've helped me.
craigsmithx 1 week ago
The only thing creepy about this video is the MUSIC... come on...
Rest in peace little angels.
wickedwheezel 1 week ago
creepy!
greaserleo 1 week ago
Very nice fotos!! Thanks for posting!!
montyhades 1 week ago
There is nothing eerie about these photos it's how they wanted to remember them, alot of the children looked really peaceful and just look like they are asleep. I'm very fascinated with these photos.
fi19731 2 weeks ago
It was a time in history when people wanted to remember their loved ones. I can see nothing wrong with these photos. And I agree with people who say that it appears death was close and therefore not as scary as now.
1951kvk 2 weeks ago
Back then early deaths were so common, almost to be expected in large poor families, and also many people were often very devout believers in heaven, so they found comfort where modern families might not.
verdew8181 2 weeks ago
I'd prefer not to have a picture of someone in a coffin. Lying on a bed would be better!
Ms2blackcats 2 weeks ago
I find death to be very fascinating and, truth be told, I feel rather jealous of the dead, their pain and suffering are over. There is no reason to fear death.
InnannasRainbow1 3 weeks ago
@InnannasRainbow1 I'm with you. This world isn't bad but it is not a nice place.
craigsmithx 1 week ago
many of these children don't even look dead. In some of them, they appear to be smiling.
googles1515 3 weeks ago
The heartbreak these parents must have gone through!
kashmirpage 3 weeks ago
why do you feel you need to defend yourself? this video is what started me collecting. I have over 30 sleeping beauties which i cherish. It's a reminder to myself to get my fat ass up everyday and enjoy being with my children!
barrysgrl74 4 weeks ago
pause at 6:07 you can see the baby's eyes open
DazzlingValerie 1 month ago
your right thats messed up
riks85 3 weeks ago
I admit the music was chilling, but nonetheless appropriate, and I can respect your feelings. When my dad died two years ago I wrote a rather angsty poem which probably creeped out some people who heard it, but most people liked it. As for the "vintage-film" effects, they looked pretty realistic, and I don't feel you were disrespectful at all.
LuvvyDuck 1 month ago
interesting
sarabower1 1 month ago
I don't like how they vibrate.
ferociousgumby 1 month ago
The kids look robust even in death. They were not sick long enough to waste away. That's a testament to the nature of the deadly infectious diseases which killed children in the decades following invention of the camera. Diseases most people today never even heard and take for granted their their kids won't have them. In those days if you got sick you went to bed. Days later you would either stand up, or be carried off to the parlor to be photographed.
mnpd007 1 month ago
You can't win with the music. If the track is somber then you are just trying to increase the shock effect of the video's nightmare value. So, you change the music to something more festive and now you are disrespecting the dead.
mnpd007 1 month ago
Thank you for the video. The pictures are a touching and heartbreaking memorial to loved ones.
Butty1972 1 month ago
I think the only thing that would scare me would probably be having to take a picture with a deceased brother or sister.
mizz09izzy 1 month ago
I wondered aboout this sort of thing after watching some movies.
As Peaceful as they look, they look serene and delicate.
Miss79er 1 month ago
The music in the other 'Victorian Era' videos really ruin it for me. I'd like this video more if the cheap shaky-picture effect was gone or not as noticeable. Otherwise great work!
SOF88 1 month ago
What I find interesting is that I watched this with the sound down and whilst a little creepy in places I generally found the images just sad and poignant. However, at the end I turned the volume up and it took on a whole different, chilling feel. I agree with iriswiggle but I guess that grieving parents wouldn't be watching this for comfort anyway
lisaroberts1971 1 month ago
Thank you so much for your thoughtful work.
TheAdamkenneyfriedla 1 month ago
That is sooo heart renderingly achingly sad to see these little young Kids dead ! They all look so peaceful as if they were sleeping! I cannot imaging the grief of a Mother or a Father who have lost a Child! it breaks my heart!
BluesHarp60 1 month ago
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jonyoud 1 month ago
1:25 you can really see the grief, especially in the mother.
abrown17 1 month ago
ALL SAD TRAGEDIES but: those 2 children sharing the same coffin @5:33---my curiousity wonders how they died together?...
is there copyrights on these photos? thank you
btw good music!
INTIMEFILMPRODUCTION 1 month ago
6:07 made me jump back
beckchasewolfe 1 month ago
Little ones died in those days of things we can control and cure now pretty much... like .pneumonia, flu, even things like leukemia. People. in those days would have multiple children (no birth control) sometimes as many as 10 or 12. And still, they would lose half or more before they reached 6 years of age. What a dreadful time for those parents.
Moonchalice 1 month ago
Rip those sweet children :(
xoxprettyrosesxox 1 month ago
The music is absolutely horrendous not present in 1969-1970 when the video had been placed in Youtube. It is eeriedepressive. Parents that are grieving today would be even more depressed afterwards. The sound should be upscale to a resurrection with a positive tone like the sound of the woods, birds & running water. Even a slow lullaby or a religious song, toned down to a very slow lull would be acceptable. Parents should leave feeling comforted. What is comforting in this sound?
iriswigle 2 months ago
The Best thing for your spirit, is- rock & roll
rollingstopp 2 months ago
The music is good.
ELECTRICCLOCK 2 months ago
This is a very good video.and the music is a bit too sombre ,but it reflects the mood,,Although if i am honest i nearly had to run and change my trousers with the littler girl at 6:07 just as the credits role..jesus...
mortgagewizard40 2 months ago
2:45. Looks like he is a vampire
GatlingPea32 2 months ago
Modern medicine is a good thing, however it makes people fearful of death.
And I see I am comment 666.
ELECTRICCLOCK 2 months ago 6
@ELECTRICCLOCK Lol man
TheRappeSide 2 months ago
@ELECTRICCLOCK Modern med. & technology are wonderful, but not only does it make people fearful of death & dying, it also makes us weaker, more susceptible & prone to disease -- & so what we fear actually gains ground on us. I don't want to die, of course, but I wouldn't say I'm fearful of death or dying. In fact, I have a fascrination with many aspects of them.
inkadinkadoodle 3 weeks ago
may they all rest in peace very sad but thanks for showing
robert10267 2 months ago 2
Sad and yet a nice remembrance of the lost child. Modern medicine probably could have save a lot of these babies for passing.......
HarborGuy 2 months ago
so so sad
woodendful 2 months ago
im not sick of any dead pics im sick of moving pics it make me dizzy!!! stupid poster!
nasiwilan4 2 months ago
the scariest one 1:28
this one made me cray 5:36
TheEsraa13 2 months ago
Very strange... but a great video of a part of a culture whoe's understanding is lost to us now. Thank you for sharing...
romeotangohotel 2 months ago
@8Toktela8 I believe that you have done an awesome job with this vid, It reflects the Social and Economic structures of the time, A lot of us nowadays take for granted that we can have photographs of our children in an instant, and for literally cents per print, back then they were horrendously expensive, And when the worst happened, you only had one chance to remember them, And often people borrowed the money to do so, the filcker just helps one to focus more on the images shown.
4E047RHH 2 months ago 2
I know, pause & mute. :-)
catnipsmile 2 months ago
Why can't you just post it without all the freakin' shaking!!
catnipsmile 2 months ago
Ok, so, I did read the description, and I respect you decision with music an all, and I agree that it is not disrespectful just not some people's cup of tea. However, the baby's eyes at the end just reduces the whole thing to being creepy and morbid rather than sad but beautiful like it should be seen, and that is disrespectful.
DarkestHeart266 2 months ago
i found the video very interesting i am considering a career as a embalmer but the old film effect was quite annoying with the constant jumping also the sound effects where a bit to much a repeat of the music would of been fine.
kwoodside 3 months ago
Of course if the scene is too gruesome, then that's a no-brainer. But believe it or not, I HAVE been asked by family members for messy crime scene photos of their loved ones. Also, I have to take into consideration the world we live in now. I would hate to see a photograph of mine end up on the internet. My question is, when is it ok to deny a loved one a last photograph of their family member? We tend to only look at the morbid side of it. There is another side.
aubiedog2011 3 months ago
I'm a CSI for a large police department so I am very much used to photographs of the deceased. This type of photography does seem morbid but some people insist on photographing their deceased loved ones. I have been asked personally for crime scene pictures of a person's loved one. What can you say? No? It's a very tough decision to have to make. All people are different. Some want to remember the person as they were in life. Some want to remember their death. Weird, I know. But not too uncommon
aubiedog2011 3 months ago
o my god the babys eyes opened!
ilovecats091 3 months ago
wow what beautiful children they all are. they look so peaceful and with little or no money they look fantastic etc, the flowers the presentation i think they look there best in those days better than todays day so much more natural R.I.P little angels god bless all of yous xx
key9397 3 months ago
omg .. why did you make that baby's eyes open at the end of the video? that's sick!!!!!!
avadahlia 3 months ago
Thank you for posting this Toktela, but did you realize that the last baby's eyes
did open at the end of the video. Please give some comment to us about that please. Did you see them open?
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ladyelle22 3 months ago
this music is disrespectful. they're children for goodness sake.
xchethomasx 3 months ago
I think people have the pictures at the death is a remeberance of faces that are lost in time. I sincerly believe people didnt spend money on pictures during life because you have memories and a face to see. Some how when memories arent being made a on a regular basis faces tend to fade, I think this is a great way to remember a loved one.
daymonkey1 3 months ago
sick bastards
joeovplainzy 3 months ago in playlist Victorian Book Of The Dead
The saddest part about all this is that you can see how so many of them died. The sunken eyes show that they are dehydrated and probably died of diarrhea. This was incredibly common in the nineteenth century, especially among children. Many of them could have been effectively treated with simple oral rehydration solutions of electrolytes and sugars which they could have made up in Victorian times had they known how.
gdh7260 3 months ago
I happen to find this fascinating. The fact that in the Victorian era people had so little money that their last rememberance of their loved ones who passed is through a photograph. If you didn't have a photo in life...you got one in death. Sad, yet fascinating.
RachaelnCharlie 3 months ago 24
@RachaelnCharlie I agree with you, but I also find it a bit eerie. I love old photographs...and gravestones too, and would love to know more about the people in and beneath them.
kashmirpage 3 weeks ago
@kashmirpage The boy in the suit standing with his eyes shut. I'm sorry but that one is really eerie! And I'd like to know how long did it take for the photographer to show up.
Ms2blackcats 2 weeks ago
The music is great, I just really didn't like the shaky camera effect. It would have been a lot better without that one element. Otherwise it was a nice presentation, although I've seen most of these pictures before.
pretendingtoswim 3 months ago 2
I find this beautiful... the beauty of passing on is eminent in these photos. there is nothing to fear, and honestly, i am one who believes in carrying on this tradition.
Fagadillo 3 months ago
this is scary ♥♥♥
Loveships9 3 months ago
This gave me a pit in my chest... I had to stop in the middle of it
Sagwah42 3 months ago
The background music is disturbing bordering on frightening, and lends an increasingly uneasy subtext to the succession of photos of the deceased.
What's not to like?
SamFerdoo 3 months ago
I kind of like the music. Don't apologize to trolls.
Threetails 3 months ago
oohhh... soo sad... i see they look like just a sleep not death.. uhhh :((
kayla220786 4 months ago in playlist More videos from 8Toktela8
I can't imagine being a kid and having to have a picture taken of you,standing by your dead sibling! Too sad! :-(
Tangerinekashmir 4 months ago
Biggest compilation of post mortom Victorian era photos I've seen. A good historical record.
Not a judgement of the music itself; I dislike the deep Erie minor tones creating a circus like atmosphere.
But, I'm looking at it from a more documentarian view. your music choice conveys the feeling YOU meant to portray; so, good job!
Our society has removed ourselves from the death process more than ever. Every generation has specific rituals in grief.
Before photography; they used hair. From int
kgigsup1996 4 months ago
i was watching a titanic documentary... i don't know how i got here. o_e
it's kinds scary, but fascinating. is EVERYONE in the picture dead? because some look very much alive and it confuses me. :/
mjchangedmylyf 4 months ago
So sad they died so young but that's just not right taking a picture of them after they died. That why you should take alot of picture of them when they are still alive.
ladyyuna2000 4 months ago
dude...imagine. "come on honey, time to take pictures with your DEAD SISTER." WTF
trumpzero2 4 months ago
i have a question. how can people tell the difference between a picture of an alive person posed and a post mortem picture? is there a way they can just tell?
xellosalina1 4 months ago
@xellosalina1 its a subtle difference in some cases...but the brain is very good at detecting stuff like when the mucles in the body are relaxed fully...which could never happen even if they were in a coma...
TheAndroidNerd 4 months ago
Very fascinating. A strange custom, but fascinating.
neiferism 4 months ago
The mortality rate of children at the turn of the 20th century was rather high. I think like 1 in 4 wouldn't make it to the age of 5. Mostly communicable diseases like polio or diptheria were the main cause. My grandfather and all his brothers had polio as small children and 2 of them died from it.
Billybopper1 4 months ago
the faces of the live people say everything of how they feel. Some of the children are still plump so they must have died quickly or early in their illness. the ones with a lot of weight loss must have suffered a long time before death.
hross233 4 months ago
Music sounds, like the type of sounds you would find on any silenthill Game.
KazVamp 4 months ago
The little girl in the chair with all of her dolls..so sad...The poor parents and siblings. I prefer the natural surrounding and no gross makeup like they do today.These photos are beautiful, how they adorn their departed!
skylilly1 4 months ago
the last picture opens his eyes...............poor choice of music tho haha
xAxCALVARYxMISFITx 4 months ago
ok that was creepy at 6:07!!!! the music was like from a old horror movie!!
MrDrummerman11 4 months ago
In death, a grieving mother, father, or sibling, will cling to whatever connection they can with a lost child or sibling...so many young ones lost back then...it is the grief in the eyes of the ones left behind that is so heart breaking...
jparker59able 4 months ago
dude wats up wit the creepy background music...bad enough we're looking at dead people.
loganwhy1 4 months ago
I don't know why anyone should be disturbed by this. Sure, the set up is entirely different but lest we forget we still do post-mortem photographs to this day. Only we call it records instead of preservation.
BeyondMe1216 4 months ago
this was most probably very comforting to the families. many during those times lost their loved one to diseases that are common today but back then unknown. it is a celebration of their lives. a family record passed through the generations. not disturbing to me at all. death is a part of life and this is how back then they paid homage to the deceased. they viewed death very differently back then
momzilla57 4 months ago
I may be off base but why would anyone want to remember what their child looked liked dead?
DWarrior4 4 months ago
Good collection of photos!
PancakeSally 4 months ago
photos great but the music not the best for this kind of work, obviously thats just my own opinion
1000secondhandrose 5 months ago
Actually, I believe the music to be perfect. I doubt, seriously doubt, any ambient music artist, even one as talented as Brian Eno, who said, " As soon as I hear a sound, it always suggests a mood to me," could do better. Put another way as did the late Stanley Kubrick, "The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it."
Anselcat1952 5 months ago 12
@Anselcat1952 - No, this music might tickle your fancy but it dishonest. The music is not in the spirit the original photos were taken in. It's a lame attempt at being s-s-scary by evoking ghosts and fear and panic, a product of our current culture's puerile fascination with death. The culture that these photographs originate from knew death in a much more familiar way than we do, since they had high child mortality and shorter life span. PIctures are interesting, but the music is stupid
decimated550 3 months ago
@decimated550 I accept your criticism, but I still like the atmospherics of the score. To me it fits. I actually have a post-mortem photo of my grandfathers dead infant brother. I do not know when the photo was taken, but I do know my grandfather was born in 1885. The dead brother was never really spoken of, though Grampy (who died in 1964) told me of him and the reason for the photo when as a kid I asked. It is daguerreotype in an ornate book-style hinged case.
Anselcat1952 3 months ago
@Anselcat1952 - I just didn't like the music. It seems to want to make the viewer feel worse, more nervous about things already, i mean we have 6 minutes of dead children killed by ailments which modern medicine has long since exterminated. I'd be happier with a soundtrack which suggests, inasfar as music can suggest a mood, of celebration, honor, loss, remembrance.
But hey as long as it has special personal significance to you then then no one can take that away.
decimated550 3 months ago
@Anselcat1952
I agree entirely Anselcat1952. The soundtrack suggests so much in such an economical way; the unknown, the timeless, sadness, sorrow and yes - even a little fear. Just a few sensations generated so simply.
SilverWitness 2 months ago
Music is fail.
onemoreturn 5 months ago
They look so natural, like sleeping angels..there's nothing to fear from the dead and I think it would be very comforting having your child lying in your home as opposed to an embalmed body laying on a slab somewhere in the funeral home..
Goodwith2005 5 months ago
I wonder how long they kept some of them.
RandiSierra 5 months ago
Yeah, it's like you're watching this video of children who have died, and then as you'
re seeing everything and feel kind of freaked out in a sort of way and then just as you get to the last baby, you almost jump at the eyes opening. It was very creepy in my opinion. the video was done right, in a tasteful way and the music wasn't something horrible, sort of like something played on the alien movie and then, here come the eyes.
romzom666 5 months ago
@romzom666 well said !! This last was very disrespectful and cynical
MrMedico33 4 months ago
My part of the Provence in my country celebrates deaths so I cannot connect the eerie background music with this XD
tkoizumi 5 months ago
Very moving.... Some of the deceased have died from agonising fevers for which there was no treatment and it shows.
I remember seeing dead children displayed in the windows of houses in Spain. This was way back in the 50's. Very unsettling for me as I was quite young too.
Not all morbid though as it shows great affection, Remeber that infant mortality was commonplace then.
The only ones that disturb me are those which feature the living siblings, but these were different times
BavonWW 5 months ago
so sad you can see the grief in the parents faces.
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
IT SEEMS TO ME THE CHILDREN WHERE LOVED AND EVEN IN DEATH CARED FOR not like the poor little ones made angels too soon the abused and exploited and missig children
they are really lovely vids
sooouuuuper 5 months ago
@sooouuuuper
you're right, there is still lot of love here. These pictures are far away the common macabre; all the children seem sleeping serenely, and posing for the last time , in their most beautiful clothes, with toys, around some delicate flowers.
I suppose it's difficile to understand for us now that these photographies were made by the "living people", in a very short tragid moment, in a "between passage" , like a last hommage and an eternal picture before their real disparition.
divineenfant 5 months ago
maybe the most scary is the music finally :). It terrifies us, like children, before we really understand what we see
divineenfant 5 months ago
Such young lives so much potential, its so sad
dfg297lpopdirk 5 months ago
It would have been better if the film didn't jump so much. Taking pictures of the dead was common in olden days
dinkybird64 5 months ago
great pix but the shaking motion is distracting and makes it hard to really look at them in detail.
jessica07xbox 5 months ago
Strange in the present when the dead are whisked away right after death never to be seen again. I thought all of the photos were very tasteful and given the technology of the times it was appropriate to remember loved ones some way. These people saw death so much, although sad, they could keep their composure. Since death happens to all of us, perhaps it is better to become used to it.
killerpanda91 5 months ago
yeah, very creepy.
romzom666 5 months ago
This is a very beautiful video, very tasteful, I thought. Have seen others like this, but this to me is the best one.
Dollyfaceangel 5 months ago
good for you standing by your own artistic vision. what strikes me about victorian era "sleeping beauties" are how angelic and beautiful these dead children are...not yet spoiled by the world and it's chaos. they are truly those spirits whose purity did not require them to linger long in this mortal existence. the old saying that "the good die young" is true. not only that, but photographers of that era had an artistic calling to portray these loved ones so that they wouldn't be forgotten.
korirua 6 months ago
Oh no....twins!!! :(
angelateeng 6 months ago
Good collection, but very depressing and goulish! Would've hated to have been a photographer back then!
melmel81154 6 months ago
what an amazing record of the popular fashion of photographing one's own deceased , i attended a photographic exibition on death at bradford's museum of photography many years ago and saw similar images , very poiniant !!!!
leedshunk 6 months ago
There is no way I could have posed with my deceased infant in my arms, and have kept it together.
VABkWrm 6 months ago
I am so impressed by these videos! I really think you did a great job! Your intro was sensitive and well thought out.
Thank you for showing us a new art form (new to me anyway), in a way it can be appreciated...
Ms. Cynthia
proftaltos 6 months ago
Holy crap. Did anyone check out the last one? The baby's eyes just popped open right at the very end. Very scary. Check it out.
romzom666 6 months ago 10
@romzom666
OMG.
Its good to read comments before watching the video.
AnonimousZhid 6 months ago
@romzom666 I re-watched this after reading your comment, and I just caught the eyes popping open! Just as the credits went over it wasn't it? Very creepy.
Dollyfaceangel 5 months ago 2
@romzom666 Made me look. LOL!!
scorpietta 5 months ago
@romzom666 Yep, saw that. Creepy.
skeetereze 5 months ago
@romzom666
holy shit. i pissed my pants when i see it first time.
press stop at 6:07
Ndee584 4 months ago
@romzom666 wow. tht was crazy. i did see it! :O
c5rep0rter 3 months ago
Wtf is with the music
tcw00 6 months ago
heartbreaking. Seeing their parents with them killed me.
TheBeeMama 6 months ago 2
poor little angels
lucatramonti 6 months ago
When the last image of the little girl fades out, it looks like her eyes open up.
daFattylover 6 months ago
Hey dick ! It was a light hearted joke! How about taking the time to read my other post if you have the mental fortitude to find it. My part of the country was plagued by infant and toddler mortality and my family still posess some books . Dont act like you weren't trying to make it creepy or macabe. Otherwise you wouldv'e chosen aother line of music. I wonder if you are showing respect to the family of the deceased by getting permission to post images...thought not! Good night sweet EMO
MrShockotaco 6 months ago
Was it tradition to take pictures of/with your deceased relatives back then?
alonelysock 6 months ago
@alonelysock Tradition and it was the only way that most families could have a picture of their loved one. Victorians also viewed death a lot differently than we do today.
juannabanana 6 months ago
@juannabanana yeah thanks o= I actually googled it after I saw this and that's actually pretty neat.
I wonder if anyone still does this. probably looks odder in modern photographs.
alonelysock 6 months ago
@alonelysock Maybe not to the extent of making it seem like a normal photograph, but I'm sure there are people who will take pictures of someone at a viewing or a wake. This makes me wonder if there are other cultures that would do something like this even today.
juannabanana 6 months ago
creepy did you see the last baby's eyes open...its at 6.07 creepy
safiyaclaire 6 months ago
what beautiful picture's ,, all those precious angels, well made video
WarriorLaurie 7 months ago
Creepy when the eyes open!!!!!!
ThePopTartCatlol 7 months ago
R.I.P ladies and gentlmen
TheAH67 7 months ago
i dont mind the images,,, just the ones that have their eyes open..i find creepy..
angelgirl7473 7 months ago
OMG...thankyou for making this clip...i feel so priveledged to have seen these beautiful children.....from so ling ago.great work....I love it its is so beautiful and macarbe at the same time.....bet they never thought so many peiople would beable to view them....on youtube....wow.amazing presentation,and perfect music that is really appropriate.thanx again..R.I.P....young brave children.<3
rubikin1 7 months ago
I hesitated before watching, but while this left me in tears, I found it a haunting tribute to the fragility of life and a memorial that will now live forever to these children who lived and died so long ago. Who would have imagined back then that well over a hundred years after their deaths, people all over the world would see at least a glimpse of who they once were and know that they had lived and played and loved and been loved. And the music suits the mood perfectly.
janicec678 7 months ago 2
fuck!!!!!!look at 6:07!!!!!shit on my pants....
tsex79 7 months ago
I cant turn away and im about to go eat pasta. AWWWW this shit will be in my head
cwood4ever 7 months ago
It's so sad that these children had to die so young. Back then there was no medication for illnesses they died from. I can't begin to imagine anything worse than losing a child. But the video was very tastefully done and very respectful. R.I.P.
Tassle101 7 months ago 2
i have always found some facination with the victorians . i have been lookin everywhere for these kind of picturs as like you said it was the only way the can carry on and see there loved ones . the peace they show of there death is not the same kind of peace we have and i respect the way they deal with death . as much as they are hard to look at the love they show for them is warm and the children look at peace too
nettie1261 7 months ago
Such beautiful children,i see them at peace,god rest their souls.
monro601 7 months ago
Strange feelings after I saw this video, In my hometown in sount of Italy they have graves from that era and most of the childrens pictures on the graves are post mortem one, it is very difficult and scary to be there...I always have to pass there to be able to bring some flowers to my grand parents...so maccaber but i surely understand why they did it...:(
crystalangel84 7 months ago
love the video but when u explain about the music it pissed me off. you say you are an artist but art has to a creation from the soul. this s what anyone can do, find photos and put music to them. they are not your photos you didnt take them so maybe the sound you call music is your art but the photos are not they are someone else kids art and memories. it was cool but then i got pissed .
darkangel57821 7 months ago
@darkangel57821 sorry ment they are someone else kids, art and memories lol also the music used im pretty sure i heard from a movie in the 80's maybe a zombie flick not sure
darkangel57821 7 months ago
people do lots of strange things when they lose family members some people carry on as if nothing as happened washing there clothes just like they just wony let it into there mind
ajs3939 7 months ago
Is it just me or do the eyes of the last child open just before the video fades out?
idapuard 7 months ago
@idapuard yes the eyes did open not a good thing to do if you scare easily
ajs3939 7 months ago
@ajs3939 i think its horrid this person who made they eyes open ruin a memorial photo like that ><. i mean that photo is angelic (as the family ment it to be) then its ruined. sorry im kinda way into this as my family has the same tradition and we have albums of our dead.
darkangel57821 7 months ago
I am just curious, what if one of these turned out to be a premature burial case? I have heard that premature burial was very common during the 19th century because of the lack of medical instruments that could tell if a person was deceased or not.
Keith7745 7 months ago
I love the Dark Ambient that accompanies the images it adds such depth to these darkly beautiful photos, ones I've not come across before I might add.
draconisdracon 7 months ago
To think that just a short time before many of those sweet little children were out hopscotching, running, playing with dolls and marbles, laughing, loving life.
verdew8181 7 months ago
I've never felt the sensations of both a sense of eerie dread and of heart-rending grief to the point of tears at the same time and now I have. I'm glad you didn't play highly emotional music as that would have been almost unbearable.
verdew8181 7 months ago
as a mother myself i can see the pain on the faces of the parents just think how hard it must have been for some of them to afford the picture of there child i think you have done a beautiful job these children make me think of angels i think it shows a little of our history as well godbless our little ones
crip4lifeloc 7 months ago
they look so peaceful. For many, photography wasn't financially available all the time, and so they didn't have many images of their loved ones. Much like we spend a LOT of money for funerals and wakes for our late relatives and friends (when do we do this when they're alive?!) they would "splurge" for a last memory of their loved one. It's not the youtuber's personal photos so I don't see hwy people are saying he/she is being wrong! Good job :) Love it.
bettyray69 7 months ago
The most difficult part of observing these photos are the looks on the parents' and siblings' faces....how heartbreakingly difficult it must have been for them.
fafoosnick6839 7 months ago
The fevers during this era wrecked havoc on children.I live in a rural area and all the older graveyards are filled with children under 5 years old....very sad
MrShockotaco 7 months ago
Im not keen on the creepy music in only the aspect that it makes the babies death seem creepy and its not. Otherwise I really appreciated the thought you put into this and the actual beauty of it once one understands the reason for the trend, it is amazing.
ValerieDSandoval 7 months ago
In a way, most of these children look like they are at peace, or are peaceful. The healthcare was not as good back then as it is today, God bless their little hearts.
lilitalianangel1994 7 months ago