@Fastbikkel The curve was made narrower in 1979 when they shortened the circuit and slightly modified La Source and Eau Rouge. In 1981 the Bus Stop was added too. Check out popular vids from '83 or '87. Slight modifications were made to Eau Rouge in 2002 as well. Shame - I liked this one better.
Last time they raced on Old Spa. Fortunately the new circuit is one of the few examples in which an old circuit was transformed into something equally good.
Sadly that wasn't the case with Österreichring, Hockenheim and others.
Yes, I agree that the current Spa is a successful design. The Old Spa got to be a bit of a death trap - see the in car videos motorsports fans take while driving through Burnneville or Masta today, I could not imaging driving 160+mph through there while sitting with very brittle gas tanks surrounding me inside the monocoque, no crash cells, and trees, houses, and onlookers perilously close...and the single band of armco and catch fencing, waiting to decapitate the unlucky.
Yeah, what he did in the Porsche 917 in 1000km endurance races in pouring rain was the stuff of legends. Guys like Ickx had nothing but total respect for Rodriguez.
I was at that race. Sat right near where that woman is with the drink on the patio of La Source Hotel. I have a great photo of Pedro on the podium with Chris Amon.
If you stop at 0:37 you can clearly see the barriers on the right side of the road, and on the left where the people are standing, there are barriers, too, but they are only going up to their knees.
On many parts of the rest of the track were barriers, too.
I can't believe those guys standing on the outside of Radillon at 0:37!! It just shows people tend to do stupid things unless there is safety regulations in place!!
I am always curious why everyone is calling the race just "a minor event" in Pedro´s descriptions etc.
Yes the Interserie in Germany generaly wasn´t a really major series even if quite big, but the Norisring races in the city of Nuernberg are always something special.
e.g. works Porsches sometimes only entered for this race, like 88 when they were only driving in Le Mans and the Norisring non championship race.
And there were often guest appearences by current F1 drivers like Lauda, Stuck...
I didn´t mean to attack you or something, but it was just that most of the times the racing series they raced in (Interserie), as is the team (which was Herbert Mueller´s), or sometimes not even the track is mentioned, even on pages about Pedro where they have more than 500 characters. And I wondered why.
e.g. at sites with informations about Jim Clark, it´s rarely called "a minor formula series" or something like that.
The average pole position (Jackie Stewart) speed on the old Spa (14km / 8.7 miles) in 1970 was 244kph / 151mph. This is still the higest average pole speed in the F1 history of the Spa-Francorchamps (2007 race with the modern layout 7 km circuit was "only" 237kph :)
In Norway we use just "km" or "km/t" ....But when lookming it up, I've found out that "kph" is a more "American-english" term it seems ("TV-english" you know :)
@wippermann in 2009 in the 2nd Qualifying part Jarno Trulli set an 1:44:5. This means an average of about 240. Still a lower average than set in 1970 but its getting closer ;)
Is there any point comparing the average speed of old and new Spa?? Old Spa had a long straight, and long sweeping corners, so they could keep 200km/h+ in most parts of them too.
amazing vid mate, thanks for posting. i drove around the old spa in august when i was there for a GT race, cant believe they raced there. the lap record there is 160mph AVERAGE speed. unbelieveable.
Last year on the old long Spa. Sure,todays Spa is still the best circuit there is but the old Spa was a killer. Unfortunately that last was also literally true for some unfortunate drivers.
Eau Rouge was tighter than yet. Today with the old Eau Rouge they can´t drive flat out!
samothsamothsamoth 4 months ago
Did anybody knew what the top speed of this cars ?
Where can i get info about top speed in f1 in period from 1950-now?
sanyatyr 5 months ago
Not to offend you, but the track layout looks like a poop
international153 8 months ago
1:08 my favorite cigarette!
sticklift 9 months ago
rofl i burst out laughting at the way the guy said the last bit
T1carus 11 months ago
8 miles long. Unreal.
PeterMayer 1 year ago
fuck new circuits
funkmuller 1 year ago
Yes the 'new' Spa is good rework of the old cicuit and still incorporates some fo the msot scenic and spectacular parts
John Amundsen
7nordic 1 year ago
Respect, for Pedro . . .
nomeXroC 1 year ago
What a difference between this eau rouge and the current one.
Fastbikkel 1 year ago
@Fastbikkel The curve was made narrower in 1979 when they shortened the circuit and slightly modified La Source and Eau Rouge. In 1981 the Bus Stop was added too. Check out popular vids from '83 or '87. Slight modifications were made to Eau Rouge in 2002 as well. Shame - I liked this one better.
chaba32 1 year ago
Last time they raced on Old Spa. Fortunately the new circuit is one of the few examples in which an old circuit was transformed into something equally good.
Sadly that wasn't the case with Österreichring, Hockenheim and others.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes
Yes, I agree that the current Spa is a successful design. The Old Spa got to be a bit of a death trap - see the in car videos motorsports fans take while driving through Burnneville or Masta today, I could not imaging driving 160+mph through there while sitting with very brittle gas tanks surrounding me inside the monocoque, no crash cells, and trees, houses, and onlookers perilously close...and the single band of armco and catch fencing, waiting to decapitate the unlucky.
piobairesicago 1 year ago
wow, eau rouge is very straight today
thash1127 1 year ago
Too bad you can't stand that close anymore.
sookster54 1 year ago
As pessoas sem proteção alguma na Eau-Rouge... naum havia preocupação alguma com segurança... Meu Deus
1983blair 1 year ago
Best F1 era ever
punkerbr 1 year ago
Pedro Rules!
Olinser06 1 year ago
I've heard that Pedro Rodriguez was one of the all-time great wet-weather drivers.
334286 1 year ago
@334286
Yeah, what he did in the Porsche 917 in 1000km endurance races in pouring rain was the stuff of legends. Guys like Ickx had nothing but total respect for Rodriguez.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
I was at that race. Sat right near where that woman is with the drink on the patio of La Source Hotel. I have a great photo of Pedro on the podium with Chris Amon.
rivlax 2 years ago
This is exciting! Hehe i love 1:07. Total sponsor for Marlboro.
DJLauth 2 years ago
Spa a great circuit - even today in its shorter form!
alphabetaxenonzzzcat 2 years ago 2
Look how people were standing right next au rouge! Crazy.
PeterMayer 2 years ago 16
hahaha i know!! NO barriers or ANYTHING haha, mad as :D not even rally drivers get that close to public
TunesByTanzil 2 years ago
not really no barriers.
If you stop at 0:37 you can clearly see the barriers on the right side of the road, and on the left where the people are standing, there are barriers, too, but they are only going up to their knees.
On many parts of the rest of the track were barriers, too.
BMWizardofOz 2 years ago
old Spa circuit 14 km... Pedro Rodriguez....
Eau Rouge... amazing, beautiful !!!!
RogerTurk 2 years ago
Pedro Rodriguez , the best driver in rain!!!
FormulaUnos 2 years ago
I can't believe those guys standing on the outside of Radillon at 0:37!! It just shows people tend to do stupid things unless there is safety regulations in place!!
sinnae404 3 years ago
They look like they're up on a bank, I think you can see the top of the crash barrier near their feet.
s00zster 2 years ago
This was the last Belgian GP which was held in the old Spa-Francorchamps circuit in 1970.
13 years after (in 1983), Spa-Francorchamps returned to the F-1 calendar, reformed and modernized, as we know the circuit nowadays.
rodineisilveira 3 years ago
Pedro Rodriguez was a brave and fast driver, both with BRM F1 as with the great sport Porsche 917 in orange blue livery raced by Gulf/Wyer team.
He lost his life joining a minor event as he was offered to drive a privately raced 512
ferrari.His passion for driving led him to accept.
RIP.
indigoblue555 3 years ago
I am always curious why everyone is calling the race just "a minor event" in Pedro´s descriptions etc.
Yes the Interserie in Germany generaly wasn´t a really major series even if quite big, but the Norisring races in the city of Nuernberg are always something special.
e.g. works Porsches sometimes only entered for this race, like 88 when they were only driving in Le Mans and the Norisring non championship race.
And there were often guest appearences by current F1 drivers like Lauda, Stuck...
BMWizardofOz 2 years ago 2
to BMWizardofOz - minor if referring to major events as F1 wct and sport prototype wct of course.
Not a disrespectful rating overall:all top drivers did join lower class races by then.
I recall some of them on tourism Group 2
or on Gt cars as well.
indigoblue555 2 years ago
I didn´t mean to attack you or something, but it was just that most of the times the racing series they raced in (Interserie), as is the team (which was Herbert Mueller´s), or sometimes not even the track is mentioned, even on pages about Pedro where they have more than 500 characters. And I wondered why.
e.g. at sites with informations about Jim Clark, it´s rarely called "a minor formula series" or something like that.
BMWizardofOz 2 years ago
The average pole position (Jackie Stewart) speed on the old Spa (14km / 8.7 miles) in 1970 was 244kph / 151mph. This is still the higest average pole speed in the F1 history of the Spa-Francorchamps (2007 race with the modern layout 7 km circuit was "only" 237kph :)
wippermann 3 years ago 4
wtf kph? mph= Miles per hour, but what is kph? You mean kmh?
92NB 3 years ago
kilometer per hour...."kph" I think it is the same as "kmh" (But I had to look it up when I saw this reply then :)
wippermann 3 years ago
Yea, ok, I live in finland so we use kmh here, and we use to say kmh not kph, but its ok. (:
92NB 3 years ago
In Norway we use just "km" or "km/t" ....But when lookming it up, I've found out that "kph" is a more "American-english" term it seems ("TV-english" you know :)
wippermann 3 years ago
@92NB it's just the same! some people say kph, others say kmh
marijn2112 1 year ago
@92NB DUMBASS!!!!!!
kph = Kilometers Per Hour
kmh = KiloMeters ( per ) Hour
loser
ikke3wie3anders3 6 months ago
@wippermann in 2009 in the 2nd Qualifying part Jarno Trulli set an 1:44:5. This means an average of about 240. Still a lower average than set in 1970 but its getting closer ;)
But in 2010 the average was even lower.
bamboootscha 1 year ago
@wippermann
The fastest single lap atm is 161,297 mph / 259.528 km/h. (Monza 2002: Juan Pablo Montoya.)
bowelrupture 8 months ago
@wippermann
Is there any point comparing the average speed of old and new Spa?? Old Spa had a long straight, and long sweeping corners, so they could keep 200km/h+ in most parts of them too.
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
amazing vid mate, thanks for posting. i drove around the old spa in august when i was there for a GT race, cant believe they raced there. the lap record there is 160mph AVERAGE speed. unbelieveable.
ToivonenDeltaS4 4 years ago
another fantastic clip, fever!
topski100 4 years ago
Last year on the old long Spa. Sure,todays Spa is still the best circuit there is but the old Spa was a killer. Unfortunately that last was also literally true for some unfortunate drivers.
McLarenMercedes 4 years ago 3
Look at the cameramen on Eau Rouge standing inches from the cars with no barrier's in between...yikes
whiterice138 4 years ago 22
yes i saw that too
crazy man
bruznic 4 years ago
I sure wouldn't be standing there, but as they appear to be standing above the guard wall.
5v4al 4 years ago
hehe
isusje 4 years ago
I honestly think Pedro would have been a world champion if he'd lived.
GDH1981 4 years ago 3
not only him, his brother Ricardo could have done it too, two of the best mexican racers, i wish i had lived when they used to live and race
guillermo968 4 years ago
Pedro Rodriguez the BEST
Viva Mexico
BIgCojonesMan 4 years ago 2