The police made various observations regarding blood splatter on both victims. This McBain's theory just doesn't hold up against this evidence. Andrew was obviously laying down on the sofa with the left side of his head exposed, and that is where all of the blows landed. Just imagine finding your wife slaughtered then laying down for a nap!! Well, the sex angle, who knows? The reason why these people were murdered is money, pure and simple.
i read a book about lizzy, and i find this guy to e full of bullshit. he said that lizzy took what looked like a blunt object and killed her mother, blood was everywhere. the problem with this is if that were true then why wasnt any blood found in lizzys hair, that almost impossible to fully wash out in just a few washes. there was no traces found. thats why lizzy wasnt convicted
It was Lizzie, with the candlestick, in the sitting room. McBain wins again.
Why the hell are they talking to this guy? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's like they picked a scenario randomly out of a hat. They might as well have gotten a homeless man off the street and asked him how he thought it went down.
The case has all the earmarks of dyke rage unleashed in all its fury. McBain only faltered in one observation - that Lizzie Borden WASN'T the monster she actually was.
i doubt this theory. I've been studying the Borden case for years. No evidence that Mrs Borden ever left the house. Later Lizzie would say that Mrs Borden had received a note for a "sick friend" and had left the house. During the ensuing investigation and trial nobody ever came forward as the sender of the note. Also, Brigit the maid was seen throughout the day washing the windows, chatting with the servant next door, etc. I don't agree with this theory.
My God, leave this poor man alone, he is dead after all, show some respect. I have read nearly everything about this case and yes Lizzie was "supposedly" a lesbian but who cares? This case is unsolved let everyone have his or her opinion and stop all this hatred, grow up jeez!
LMFAO this guy's theory still cracks me up to this day. I tried to read his book and never finished it because I found it too laughable. Lizzie and Bridget wer lovers?? WTF! give me a damn break. what a stupid asshole, plus, ummmm there were killed with an AXE you short bus retard.
Total rubbish! Abby Borden did not "come back" from anywhere - she went upstairs after telling Bridget Sullivan to clean the windows and was never seen alive after 9am. Andrew came back to the house from business in town at 11am, settled down on the sofa and was killed in his sleep minutes later. If Bridget covered for Lizzie, it was by not revealing that she changed her dress that morning. There is no foundation for this theory at all.
Funny how they accused her of being a monster. Turns out she was, but not for the reasons they thought.
Part of this theory could be true but not most. Someone already mentioned how the father was laying on the couch. In addition to that, the murderes were done by an axe. This means there was premeditation. This theory is giving Lizzie too much credit, implying that she acted out of anger/emotion. We need to accept that she was just a horribly evil person.
What a crock of shit. This guy is delusional. Makes NO sense ar all...Mr. Borden was laying DOWN when he was murdered. How could he fall off a balcony and end up in that position. duh..dumb theory.
They may or may not have been having an affair together but that was not the reason why the Borden's were killed. There are far to many missing pieces.
Well, to me personally, the incest theory is the most logical to me. I highly doubt this wasn't somebody that didn't know the family, and/or just came off the street, as in a botched robbery. Plus I question the "note" , nobody but Lizzie knows anything about a "note".
I would like to add that the fact that there were pillows under Andrew's head indicates that he put them there so he could lay his head on them in order to nap. Even if he wanted to stretch himself out to sleep (which he wouldn't, as it wasn't proper per Victorian standards of decorum), he was too tall to fit on the sofa.
It is quite a reach. It does seem that the maid had more to do with these murders than is generally believed. IMO she certainly knew Lizzie did it, and may have helped her dispose of the evidence. I think that Lizzie was the only one in that family who treated Bridget kindly.
Was Lizzie a lesbian? We will never know. Just because she never married doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Not everyone is interested in having relationships.
If this were the scenario, why would he be sitting casually on the sofa? Wouldn't he have made some effort to call the authorities or be running around very agitated?
Theory is flawed and full of holes yadda yadda. Yea it's really not that great of an explanation...
But all that aside I can't get over how much fun this must have been to act out. I mean really, the actors must have thought the whole things was just a riot!
more holes: First of all, Abby didn't go out. Lizzie said Abby had received a note (to explain Abby's disappearance, when she was dead). Bridget let Andrew into the house as the door had been locked from inside. Abby was killed with a hatchet, not a blunt instrument. No defensive wounds on Andrew. If Lizzie & Bridget were lovers, then Lizzie would have gotten her name right (consistently referred to her as "Maggie," the name of the former maid, whereas Andrew & Abby called her Bridget).
@onesius1946 - You are 100% correct. In fact, there was that documentary that showed that the tear in Abby's scarf matched up with a hatchet blade. Borden must have been asleep when he was first struck, as his body position proves.
There is nothing here to show that the crime happened in any other way than it is usually portrayed. But I do think there is enough evidence that Bridget was involved in helping and protecting Lizzie. She certainly knew more than she ever told anyone.
@onesius1946 This "note" that Abby got, I don't think anybody ever stepped forward to say they saw the note, or explain who this note was from. I don't think there was a note, just another lie Lizzie made up.
I've always wondered how Bridget the maid failed to hear anything, but it brings a new question to mind: How much noise would the attacks make? This is assuming the murderer took both Bordens by surprise before they could cry out.
I did read an interesting theory in a book, "A Private Disgrace," that suggests L suffered from a form a epilepsy that made her commit by violence an act she planned by stealth. The case might well have been different if the Bs had been poisoned: A woman's weapon.
the only part of this I believe is the fact that the father knew about the mother and was in fact conscious and Lizzie had no other choice but to kill him. If you see the way he is on the couch in the crime photos it appears he fell onto the couch because hit feet are on the ground in an awkward position suggesting that he was not actually asleep.
@akrrocks - Not so sure about this--wish a re-enactment was done to show the possible ways he could have fallen if attacked. To me he looks like he was napping. I think his feet were like that because he couldn't (and wouldn't) put his entire body on the sofa. Those Victorian sofas were not made for comfort or stretching out on.
I think he was taking a nap before lunch and Lizzie just started swinging away. He may have remained conscious after the first blow, but not for long.
This is moronic homophobia! Luckily for Lizzie there just happened to be a hatchet sitting nearby in the guest room! Isn't Ed McBain the slightest bit embarrassed? This sounds like something from "Murder She Wrote". Try again.
This makes more sense. It is hardly possible that Bridget Sullivan had no idea what was going on in the house that day. I too believe she was involved.
This theory is not entirely new. I've heard it whispered and not so whispered that Lizzie and Bridget were lesbian lovers, and that's why the Bordens were murdered. BUT WHERE THE HELL IS THE PROOF???
And then Bridget said, "Quick! Get back into the time machine! The worm hole is closing!" But before Lizzie could get into the machine, she tripped on her ruby slippers and fell on Bridget, where another lesbian makeout session began. The slippers fell into the time machine and are now somewhere in Ancient Athens.
Whoa! This was WAY off-base, wasn't it? No disrespect to McBain, but the weapon was a hatchet, and the number of blows to each victim (eleven for Abby, 19-20 for dear old dad) indicates a depth of rage far exceeding any family quarrel. The prevailing theory for lizzie's motive that I agree with is the rage of an incest victim.
Yes, and even in 1892 they would be able to tell the difference between a candlestick edge and a hatchet, let alone the other probs I detailed below. Total conjecture...this case is perplexing enough when you simply stick with the FACTS!
No they didn't have fingerprinting back then. That is interesting they couldn't tell the different blood types back then too. Still, I think this is complete bunk due to what I pointed out.
Ed Mc Bain bless his soul is dead and what he says is bullshit. This was no homosexual thing. Lizzie displayed mental breakdown tendaciesclong before this happened. Her father had the purse strings and Lizzie was becoming frustrated because of her fathers stinginess. If you want to know what happened to Lizzie, look at the life she lead after the murders. Very telling
Full of holes. How did they get Mr.Borden in that relaxed posture on the sofa? One would assume that after finding his wife dead he would not have lain down for a nap. If they had moved his body around to look so, there would have been bloody drag marks & his clothes would have been disheveled (lifting dead weight to arrange clothing on a dead body is difficult, the effort would have shown as well as the blood marks). On a hot day both would have been bloody, sweaty & disheveled, too.
@A01002401 It's very unlikely that dead weight (no pun intended) of his body would have fallen in that stretched out, relaxed posture on the sofa, had he been standing. He would have fallen in a crumpled position on the floor or partially on the sofa.
So for this theory to work, they had 10 minutes to get in the guest bed being used by Uncle John (not one of their own). Abby then goes up the wrong (front) stairway to her bedroom to change (only the back stairs led to her room). Never mind the fact that Abby was apparently straightening up the guest room at this time.
ooookay. Uncle John left at 8:45 am. Andrew left about 9:00 am while Bridget was reportedly throwing up in the back yard. I have never seen a report that Abby left the house at all, but I will give him that since it can't be proven she didnt go outside for 5 minutes. Bridget stated that Abby told her to wash the windows. She supposedly went to the barn and got a pail and water, THEN talked to a maid who worked for Dr. Kelley for 10 minutes (this would be about 9:20) Abby was dead by 9:30.
there is totally no evidence for this and some facts go against his idea. lizzie being lesbian is highly probable but nothing else in the story has anything to back it up.
interesting though. would be simple if it was like that, and understandable.
in this film recreation, it shows Lizzie putting the bloody dress into the oven (middle) part of the kitchen cook stove. The firebox on these types of stoves is actually on the left side.
Nope, don't buy his theory. Interesting, but I don't believe it.
1EvilScooterKitty 1 month ago
So this is the guy that wrote Blackboard Jungle...cute, but I hope his crime novels were better than this half cocked theory.
TheBookWorm1718 1 month ago
The police made various observations regarding blood splatter on both victims. This McBain's theory just doesn't hold up against this evidence. Andrew was obviously laying down on the sofa with the left side of his head exposed, and that is where all of the blows landed. Just imagine finding your wife slaughtered then laying down for a nap!! Well, the sex angle, who knows? The reason why these people were murdered is money, pure and simple.
sauroid1 2 months ago
I'm at a loss for words. This is the most preposterous theory yet...and there have been some doozies on this case.
RonRicho 2 months ago
This is absolutely BS! It seems we all know more about this case than Mr. McBain.
joeperryhotashell 3 months ago
i read a book about lizzy, and i find this guy to e full of bullshit. he said that lizzy took what looked like a blunt object and killed her mother, blood was everywhere. the problem with this is if that were true then why wasnt any blood found in lizzys hair, that almost impossible to fully wash out in just a few washes. there was no traces found. thats why lizzy wasnt convicted
juanitae9 3 months ago
Haha Abby walks in as Lizzie is eating some pus
MWBallerHK 4 months ago
There's no volume
IslandMystic 4 months ago
This is ridiculous. I don't believe this theory.
catitude4 5 months ago 2
It was Lizzie, with the candlestick, in the sitting room. McBain wins again.
Why the hell are they talking to this guy? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's like they picked a scenario randomly out of a hat. They might as well have gotten a homeless man off the street and asked him how he thought it went down.
KayBeeEee1983 6 months ago in playlist Lizzie Borden 2
well its different, he he :)
Adarvuli 6 months ago
The case has all the earmarks of dyke rage unleashed in all its fury. McBain only faltered in one observation - that Lizzie Borden WASN'T the monster she actually was.
WardKendall 6 months ago
We can all make up stories.
TheWhistler3 6 months ago
Interesting as hell, but I don't buy it.
Remember, Mr. McBain was a master at creating fictional scenarios. This is another. Would have been a great novel though.
goopah 6 months ago
@goopah Ed McMain wrote a novel, "Lizzie," under his pseudonym Evan Hunter.
greenmanTN 6 months ago
@greenmanTN Heh. I've enjoyed many of his novels, but totally missed that one. I'll be checking it out. Thanks for the tip!
goopah 6 months ago
soooo bad, not at all.
suhmentha 7 months ago
i doubt this theory. I've been studying the Borden case for years. No evidence that Mrs Borden ever left the house. Later Lizzie would say that Mrs Borden had received a note for a "sick friend" and had left the house. During the ensuing investigation and trial nobody ever came forward as the sender of the note. Also, Brigit the maid was seen throughout the day washing the windows, chatting with the servant next door, etc. I don't agree with this theory.
mstrsims2 7 months ago
It's hilarious how people argue so passionately about this like it's the fucking JFK assassination.
FungusMossGnosis 7 months ago
Anyone have the full version of this documentary? I remember watching it on TLC way back.
nestychase 7 months ago
My God, leave this poor man alone, he is dead after all, show some respect. I have read nearly everything about this case and yes Lizzie was "supposedly" a lesbian but who cares? This case is unsolved let everyone have his or her opinion and stop all this hatred, grow up jeez!
silkorganza 8 months ago
So, according to him, the Borden murders was a very fucked up scene from "The Vagina Monologues?"
emlodik 8 months ago
LMFAO this guy's theory still cracks me up to this day. I tried to read his book and never finished it because I found it too laughable. Lizzie and Bridget wer lovers?? WTF! give me a damn break. what a stupid asshole, plus, ummmm there were killed with an AXE you short bus retard.
pattisgirls 8 months ago
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This is so far fetched it's laughable
glawsny 9 months ago
Andrew Borden's body was way to relaxed on the couch to of been killed like that. He was probably asleep when he was killed. Not standing up.
stewieandhomerrule 9 months ago
Total rubbish! Abby Borden did not "come back" from anywhere - she went upstairs after telling Bridget Sullivan to clean the windows and was never seen alive after 9am. Andrew came back to the house from business in town at 11am, settled down on the sofa and was killed in his sleep minutes later. If Bridget covered for Lizzie, it was by not revealing that she changed her dress that morning. There is no foundation for this theory at all.
enochsneed 10 months ago
Funny how they accused her of being a monster. Turns out she was, but not for the reasons they thought.
Part of this theory could be true but not most. Someone already mentioned how the father was laying on the couch. In addition to that, the murderes were done by an axe. This means there was premeditation. This theory is giving Lizzie too much credit, implying that she acted out of anger/emotion. We need to accept that she was just a horribly evil person.
saddlesablazin 10 months ago
LMAO, it's like a very gory Vagina Monologue. Utter crap.
emlodik 11 months ago
What a crock of shit. This guy is delusional. Makes NO sense ar all...Mr. Borden was laying DOWN when he was murdered. How could he fall off a balcony and end up in that position. duh..dumb theory.
7pretty7 1 year ago 2
They may or may not have been having an affair together but that was not the reason why the Borden's were killed. There are far to many missing pieces.
civilrevolution10 1 year ago 4
Probably not true, but it would have made a FANTASTIC 87th Precinct novel! Too bad Mr. McBain or Mr. Hunter is no longer alive to provide it for us.
RIP Ed McBain/Evan Hunter. You are missed.
A01002401 1 year ago
Well, to me personally, the incest theory is the most logical to me. I highly doubt this wasn't somebody that didn't know the family, and/or just came off the street, as in a botched robbery. Plus I question the "note" , nobody but Lizzie knows anything about a "note".
gotch09 1 year ago
I would like to add that the fact that there were pillows under Andrew's head indicates that he put them there so he could lay his head on them in order to nap. Even if he wanted to stretch himself out to sleep (which he wouldn't, as it wasn't proper per Victorian standards of decorum), he was too tall to fit on the sofa.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
It is quite a reach. It does seem that the maid had more to do with these murders than is generally believed. IMO she certainly knew Lizzie did it, and may have helped her dispose of the evidence. I think that Lizzie was the only one in that family who treated Bridget kindly.
Was Lizzie a lesbian? We will never know. Just because she never married doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Not everyone is interested in having relationships.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
If this were the scenario, why would he be sitting casually on the sofa? Wouldn't he have made some effort to call the authorities or be running around very agitated?
tet43 1 year ago
Theory is flawed and full of holes yadda yadda. Yea it's really not that great of an explanation...
But all that aside I can't get over how much fun this must have been to act out. I mean really, the actors must have thought the whole things was just a riot!
Critiqu3 1 year ago
Lizzie's lesbianism is only conjecture.
emmers57 1 year ago
more holes: First of all, Abby didn't go out. Lizzie said Abby had received a note (to explain Abby's disappearance, when she was dead). Bridget let Andrew into the house as the door had been locked from inside. Abby was killed with a hatchet, not a blunt instrument. No defensive wounds on Andrew. If Lizzie & Bridget were lovers, then Lizzie would have gotten her name right (consistently referred to her as "Maggie," the name of the former maid, whereas Andrew & Abby called her Bridget).
onesius1946 1 year ago
@onesius1946 - You are 100% correct. In fact, there was that documentary that showed that the tear in Abby's scarf matched up with a hatchet blade. Borden must have been asleep when he was first struck, as his body position proves.
There is nothing here to show that the crime happened in any other way than it is usually portrayed. But I do think there is enough evidence that Bridget was involved in helping and protecting Lizzie. She certainly knew more than she ever told anyone.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
@onesius1946 This "note" that Abby got, I don't think anybody ever stepped forward to say they saw the note, or explain who this note was from. I don't think there was a note, just another lie Lizzie made up.
gotch09 1 year ago
i have seen pictures of lizzie yes she looks gay but this story is highly unlikly. this just does not fit with the photos. it did not happen.
starrfisher 1 year ago
I've always wondered how Bridget the maid failed to hear anything, but it brings a new question to mind: How much noise would the attacks make? This is assuming the murderer took both Bordens by surprise before they could cry out.
I did read an interesting theory in a book, "A Private Disgrace," that suggests L suffered from a form a epilepsy that made her commit by violence an act she planned by stealth. The case might well have been different if the Bs had been poisoned: A woman's weapon.
TheKulu42 1 year ago
Lizzie Lezzie????
b1p0l4rt 1 year ago
wow! a wild wild west lesbian!!! cool!
ossarider 1 year ago
interesting theory
Delaware84 1 year ago
the only part of this I believe is the fact that the father knew about the mother and was in fact conscious and Lizzie had no other choice but to kill him. If you see the way he is on the couch in the crime photos it appears he fell onto the couch because hit feet are on the ground in an awkward position suggesting that he was not actually asleep.
akrrocks 1 year ago
@akrrocks - Not so sure about this--wish a re-enactment was done to show the possible ways he could have fallen if attacked. To me he looks like he was napping. I think his feet were like that because he couldn't (and wouldn't) put his entire body on the sofa. Those Victorian sofas were not made for comfort or stretching out on.
I think he was taking a nap before lunch and Lizzie just started swinging away. He may have remained conscious after the first blow, but not for long.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
Bridget threw the hatchet in the river? Then how did they recover it? This theory was and is bullshit.
jrgnc1 1 year ago
I don't buy this at all!
shapeepster 2 years ago
This is moronic homophobia! Luckily for Lizzie there just happened to be a hatchet sitting nearby in the guest room! Isn't Ed McBain the slightest bit embarrassed? This sounds like something from "Murder She Wrote". Try again.
swrumbaugh 2 years ago
This makes more sense. It is hardly possible that Bridget Sullivan had no idea what was going on in the house that day. I too believe she was involved.
AcaiBunch 2 years ago
Okay so theres the theory of her doing it
because of hate for Abby and that her father
molested her or some kind of incest occured,
the theory of William, a man who accused
Andrew of being his father who wanted to be recoginized and put in the will and Andrew refused,and theres this one.
To be quit honest all three of the stories
have points where they seem possible but
also moments where they seem impossible.
To me, theres equal possibility off them all.
laineyy445 2 years ago
This theory is not entirely new. I've heard it whispered and not so whispered that Lizzie and Bridget were lesbian lovers, and that's why the Bordens were murdered. BUT WHERE THE HELL IS THE PROOF???
gotch09 2 years ago
And then Bridget said, "Quick! Get back into the time machine! The worm hole is closing!" But before Lizzie could get into the machine, she tripped on her ruby slippers and fell on Bridget, where another lesbian makeout session began. The slippers fell into the time machine and are now somewhere in Ancient Athens.
jarvisel 2 years ago 2
4 stars for my rating, but that's only because he has an interesting story LMAO
1 less star than perfect b/c I agree - the weapon was SHARP enough to cut through bone, and not just smash it b/c it was so flat-faced or dull...
ibkristykat 2 years ago
this theory is whack
khandajatt 2 years ago
Oh, God, another man with a lesbian fantasy...
ROCKSLIDZ 2 years ago 2
This is so far fetched,I would believe he did it rather than believe his story.
glawsny 2 years ago 2
Whoa! This was WAY off-base, wasn't it? No disrespect to McBain, but the weapon was a hatchet, and the number of blows to each victim (eleven for Abby, 19-20 for dear old dad) indicates a depth of rage far exceeding any family quarrel. The prevailing theory for lizzie's motive that I agree with is the rage of an incest victim.
chaosfive55 2 years ago 3
Yes, and even in 1892 they would be able to tell the difference between a candlestick edge and a hatchet, let alone the other probs I detailed below. Total conjecture...this case is perplexing enough when you simply stick with the FACTS!
kirkoa 2 years ago 2
@kirkoa I've read that in 1892 they couldn't tell human blood from animal blood. They didn't have fingerprinting.
gotch09 1 year ago
@gotch09
No they didn't have fingerprinting back then. That is interesting they couldn't tell the different blood types back then too. Still, I think this is complete bunk due to what I pointed out.
kirkoa 1 year ago 2
@chaosfive55 I agree. The incest victim theory makes the most hard core sense to me.
gotch09 1 year ago
@gotch09 Yes.
chaosfive55 1 year ago
Ed Mc Bain bless his soul is dead and what he says is bullshit. This was no homosexual thing. Lizzie displayed mental breakdown tendaciesclong before this happened. Her father had the purse strings and Lizzie was becoming frustrated because of her fathers stinginess. If you want to know what happened to Lizzie, look at the life she lead after the murders. Very telling
creolelady182 2 years ago 2
Lizzie is said to have had an affair with Nance O'Neil, well after the murders.
Naushop1 2 years ago
Full of holes. How did they get Mr.Borden in that relaxed posture on the sofa? One would assume that after finding his wife dead he would not have lain down for a nap. If they had moved his body around to look so, there would have been bloody drag marks & his clothes would have been disheveled (lifting dead weight to arrange clothing on a dead body is difficult, the effort would have shown as well as the blood marks). On a hot day both would have been bloody, sweaty & disheveled, too.
mmedefarge 2 years ago 24
@mmedefarge Well, Mr. McBain just doesn't understand. Logic is like gravity- - it works 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week.
gotch09 1 year ago
@mmedefarge If you watch the video, he's downstairs when she kills him. He easily could have fallen on the sofa that way.
A01002401 1 year ago
@A01002401 It's very unlikely that dead weight (no pun intended) of his body would have fallen in that stretched out, relaxed posture on the sofa, had he been standing. He would have fallen in a crumpled position on the floor or partially on the sofa.
mmedefarge 1 year ago
@mmedefarge Very true
viictoriiameriino 11 months ago
@mmedefarge I have a theory of my own
ClairSilence93 7 months ago
So for this theory to work, they had 10 minutes to get in the guest bed being used by Uncle John (not one of their own). Abby then goes up the wrong (front) stairway to her bedroom to change (only the back stairs led to her room). Never mind the fact that Abby was apparently straightening up the guest room at this time.
Yep, sounds good to me.
kirkoa 2 years ago 3
ooookay. Uncle John left at 8:45 am. Andrew left about 9:00 am while Bridget was reportedly throwing up in the back yard. I have never seen a report that Abby left the house at all, but I will give him that since it can't be proven she didnt go outside for 5 minutes. Bridget stated that Abby told her to wash the windows. She supposedly went to the barn and got a pail and water, THEN talked to a maid who worked for Dr. Kelley for 10 minutes (this would be about 9:20) Abby was dead by 9:30.
kirkoa 2 years ago 2
good point
ilove2dance04 2 years ago
If I am not mistaking, Bridgette got married to man in Montana. What is the evidence that Lizzie was guilty anyway? I want undisputable evidence.
Hawkeye8575 2 years ago 2
mabey she was Bi sexual?
NiceGreenGirl 2 years ago
You keep on telling yourself that, Mr. McBain!
quizzicalsphinx 2 years ago
there is totally no evidence for this and some facts go against his idea. lizzie being lesbian is highly probable but nothing else in the story has anything to back it up.
interesting though. would be simple if it was like that, and understandable.
incredingo 2 years ago 7
How DETAILED is that theory....haha!
miriamw123 2 years ago 2
What??? That is such a weird theory...
miriamw123 2 years ago 4
This is the WORST theory that has come out yet !! What a CROCK!! haha
7pretty7 3 years ago 4
Abby had discovered them both being lesbian, but in a closet not in their bed..thats dumb lol
Gabbya2007 3 years ago
in this film recreation, it shows Lizzie putting the bloody dress into the oven (middle) part of the kitchen cook stove. The firebox on these types of stoves is actually on the left side.
celticladda 3 years ago
I don't believe his theory but there is evidence that Lizzie was a lesbian. That's not to say that Brigitte was though.
shapeepster 3 years ago
Thats Bullshit-
If you want to know why Lizzie killed those 2, all you have to do is look at her life leading to the murders
creolelady182 3 years ago 3
Nonsense.
Lizzie and Bridgette wouldn't be sleeping in the spare room when John Morse had slept.
Abby would not have entered Lizzie's room.
Bridgette was seem by many people that morning, going about her chores.
saxm 3 years ago 2