Thanks for the links. I'll have to watch that documentary.
You sound so displeased by the idea that China is trying to maintain it's realtions... Personally, I don't think that it's any more frightening, or unexpected, than the states saying they want Korea to stop their nuclear program. (rather wish the states would lead by example on that one)
Besides, there was a wikileak on that, which suggested China did that, to have the continued ability to pressure NK into not waring with SK. Leverage.
@PurpleGhost - Oh pardon me, I got my source mixed up the wikileaks article was talking about how China is apparently planning on distancing themselves from NK. (but that they still do not support the US's tactics in dealing with NK)
It was a NewYorkTimes article, which was suggesting China's intentions.
(Since there worried talk of Kim Jong-Un possibly trying to carve a name for himself out of blood - Something China doesn't want, as it's so close to home)
@PurpleGhost Damn, after all my research, I wasn't aware that China was against NK's attitudes towards SK. But I do know that China's relations with NK is a bit odd considering China is working towards being the top economy in the world. But because of NK's economy, I can understand why they'd want to distance themselves from them. At the same time, China assists NK in catching refugees and escapees from NK who escape through China's border, sadly. Thanks for your info.
@fruitikay - Well, it was a 'leak' after all, so I don't think they really wanted to make it apparent/public.
Now that it's on the table, I wonder what they are going to do, both publically, and privately... Hm.
China is kinda 'skitzo' (for lack of an impactful/relevant term) about their policies. It's sort of like how they have been implimenting new green policies out the wazoo, and just as quickly, pushing for industry which pollutes.
@lazyperfectionist1 Not necessarily, but war is still declared between SK and NK. North Korea is still under the impression they are at war, and South Korea never surrendered. They keep troops right on the border (both sides) watching each other's every move. There is still a technical war between the countries. And both have had terrorist attacks against the other. To us, the Korean war is long over. But not to them.
@fruitikay Maybe you detailed it in the video and I missed it, and if that's the case, I offer my apologies, but what would it take to bring the two to an official state of peace?
@lazyperfectionist1 North Korea is the main stubborn one because they have brainwashed everyone into thinking that America started the Korean War (when NK were the ones that invaded originally). They are pissed that American troops are still on the border of the South and have bases there. They want them to leave first, because they see their presence as a continued act of war and resistance. But even if US did leave, there would still be problems between NK and SK. It's hard to say. (con't)
@lazyperfectionist1 NK said that they will not cease their aggression unless the US removes troops. NK thinks that the only thing barring reunion with the South is the US. However, even if the US left, SK would never want to unify with them if their economy is still dead and their mentality is still towards the dictator, since they have a different political system and economical system. The "war" may never really end unless both sides agree to re-merge or be content with being NK and SK.
That whole place is a giant concentration camp. And the people there are either extremely brainwashed, or scared to death. In that documentary, it was amazing how a doctor gave some people their sight back and the first thing they do is run up to a picture of the leader and start thanking him, completely ignoring the doctors and nurses who did the actual work. Pitiful and disgusting.
There is no way in hell that South Korea will ever agree to merging back with North Korea unless all of Korea becomes South Korea. I just don't see that happening at all, because South Korea is a lot like the US only more humid apparently. So yea unless North Korea agrees to just give up I don't see it happening at all.
Also South Korea and the US are friends we really like each other, and there is no way in hell that they'd give up US support. That'd be like saying no I won't have the nice cake today instead I'll have this piece of hard candy I picked up from the floor. It'd make no sense on either side to break our friendship since the US and South Korea want the same thing it's really easy to be bff's when that happens.
@MistressArte We don't have to break friendship with South Korea, ever. But I do think we should significantly reduce bases and troops that reside to this day in SK. The South Koreans already have it going on, like you said, the country is a lot like the US as far as the economy is concerned. If anything happens to them, we will still help them out, but we don't need troops to remain on the border in my opinion. We already have nukes aimed at them anyway. Not that I like nukes. XD
@fruitikay If the US is stationed there keeping North Korea basically in check and they don't have spend money on it. They also get the added benefits of having more US people there to spend money it doesn't make sense for them both militarily and economically. They really have more reason to keep the US there then to not, and they are going to do what's best for them.
Also with nukes unless a country is brain dead they are just going to use them as empty threats. I'm more concerned with US nuclear power because we need a serious overhaul on the plants we have to get them safe and up to date. That to me is more worrisome then weapons because one earth quack you saw what happened in Japan and we have plants still in operation older then that.
North Korea is not communist at all. It is a monarchy using the rhetoric of communism to subjugate it's people. Eventually the il dynasty will fall and the country will either be integrated into the south or china will step in "in the interest of stability" and will be remade into the new Chinese state run capitalistic image.
Thank you for doing this. I was just about to look up Kim Jong-Un myself, something tells me that he'll be in the news very shortly for something after all if he's anything like his father. I'm now just wondering what "miracle" the N. Korean press is going to attribute to his birth and ascent to power (they claimed that birds were mourning at his father's funeral after all.)
It's a tragedy that the citizens are likely going to remain poor and hungry regardless of the outcome.
One of the reasons that the economy at all picks up from time to time is the massive printing of fake US dollars that occurs. I saw one of the notes once and it was so funny. I a picture of President Kenndy with a space shuttle behind it. :/
It is sad that so many millions have died due to a lack of food. Starvation was a tool of the former Dear Leader while the military at the boader was always fed. Sad and tragic for the North.
There is a website called vice.com that also has a series of video articles on North Korea....it was totally enlightening. On the same site is a series about a North Korean labor camp in...Siberia, Russia! The same site offers pictures of a NK park with *rides* that you absolutely must see. The whole thing is a propaganda tool for visitors..the only visitors in the park were the busload that was carted in just before the camera crew was allowed in. Picture: a zoo with just one animal:a peacock.
Regarding the actual future of North Korea, (regardless of who is in charge,) as you indicate, it's all really a vicious circle.
The South won't accept reunification now because millions of starving Northerners will bankrupt it. The North's Nuke Programme is their only real bargaining chip as they struggle to gain consetions and save face in negotiations. But the Nuke Programme is the reason for the sanctions which are crippling their economy. :-(
@Ujames1978 If NK actually wanted to have a bargaining chip. I simply don't understand why they don't research biological weapons. They're far cheaper, and far more efficient. 1 man shipped to america, vs a Missile/Plain that could be shot down.
As crowded as our large cities are, they could take out 10% of our population, with 1 good strike.
The nuke program is showing over all to just be a horrible repeated idea...
Thank you very much for this excellent overview of the situation and for linking so much necessary info in the description. Of course, I for one already knew a great deal of this. And the reason why I didn't make a video after Kim Jong-Il died was that ultimately, like the death of Bin Laden, I didn't see it as having any real, lasting effect.
On reflection however, I wish that I had made a video like this, giving an overview and linking to the info while others 'Celebrated.'
@Ujames1978 Yes, I do think the sanctions are ridiculous at this point in time. But NK mainly thinks that the nuclear weapon threat is the only thing keeping their country "safe" from the "Imperialist" America. Like you said, there is not much reason to celebrate his death, since things might not change that much with his death. I definitely think that reunification is not going to happen in the near future.
I can't even say NK is communist... It's more totalitarian with large control from the state.
When I watch communists defend North Korea... I kind of facepalm..
Even if you drop all of the "propaganda", looking at their policies, it should be relatively obvious it's far from communism, and even further from marxism..
Furthermore, NK doesn't have the money for nuclear weapon development anyway... So why worry about that...
@Microtardz It is not so communist anymore. It is more Juche philosophy and IL took out any relations to communist ideologies out of the revised constitution in 1998. I know, it's really funny when communists try and defend NK, and even more sad when they deny oppression accusations. Analysts do think, however, that they already have a hold of nuclear weapons. In an account, IL said he would never fire a missile unless America did first...but they have tested them...
@fruitikay Off of what I understood, most of the tests had failed, and that they didn't actually have the ability to do long range missiles, only drop bombs.
Ofc, I haven't done any recent research on it because, honestly, the way I look at it, the reason China, NK, and the Middle east hate America. Is because of what the CIA did during the cold war, funding capitalist regimes and planting capitalist leaders.
But I don't think any of that is worth Kamikaze tactics. They'd just be killed too...
Ya this stuff is friggn depressing. I want new leadership to take over, but at the same time, with nukes involved, I kinda want the DRK to remain stable, at least until we can somehow know the exact location of the nukes and get to them first. It's a pretty bleak situation
@Coquipirate I fail to see how nukes are really involved or a problem. Nukes are inefficient and cost large amounts of money. As far as I know every test they've had for them have ultimately failed.
The requirements to have the nukes go long range to do any damage to the US or, well, any country for that matter, is a huge blockade for them.
Anti-missile/ anti-aircraft ground forces in South korea. And that's to say NK could EVER get a working missile with their horrid economy.
@Coquipirate Kinda screwed on that part, I imagine Russia and the US have been selling weapons, including nukes, to various people for years.
I know the US for 1 has sold the vast majority of the weapons used in by middle eastern soldiers, to the middle eastern soldiers.. Literally, US armed the middle east....
@Coquipirate I doubt it as well, but I wouldn't put it past us... I mean, if I heard America sold nukes to say, Switzerland, I wouldn't be shocked, well, I might be shocked Switzerland wanted american nukes, but not that America sold them.
Good to see you. You are looking great. Congrats on your weight loss goal. NK is a country to watch & the new leader... well, who knows if he'll be able to overcome his indoctrination AND all those who surround him who are most likely the real leaders. I get the impression that KJU is just a puppet for those really pulling the strings. Happy new year.
I'd lay on ya...
a2r1v1i2s 2 weeks ago
great introduction to your channel..happy new year,
Freya5000 1 month ago
WE LOVE YOU FRUITIKAY!!!!!! Vegeterianism is ebil though ;(
losoyo 1 month ago
I just got done watching all of your videos. I really love what you have to say. Keep it up
Dingle294 1 month ago
great video
off to the links now
thanks!
theRoseofmyheart 1 month ago
Thanks for the links. I'll have to watch that documentary.
You sound so displeased by the idea that China is trying to maintain it's realtions... Personally, I don't think that it's any more frightening, or unexpected, than the states saying they want Korea to stop their nuclear program. (rather wish the states would lead by example on that one)
Besides, there was a wikileak on that, which suggested China did that, to have the continued ability to pressure NK into not waring with SK. Leverage.
PurpleGhost 1 month ago
@PurpleGhost - Oh pardon me, I got my source mixed up the wikileaks article was talking about how China is apparently planning on distancing themselves from NK. (but that they still do not support the US's tactics in dealing with NK)
It was a NewYorkTimes article, which was suggesting China's intentions.
(Since there worried talk of Kim Jong-Un possibly trying to carve a name for himself out of blood - Something China doesn't want, as it's so close to home)
PurpleGhost 1 month ago
@PurpleGhost Damn, after all my research, I wasn't aware that China was against NK's attitudes towards SK. But I do know that China's relations with NK is a bit odd considering China is working towards being the top economy in the world. But because of NK's economy, I can understand why they'd want to distance themselves from them. At the same time, China assists NK in catching refugees and escapees from NK who escape through China's border, sadly. Thanks for your info.
fruitikay 1 month ago
@fruitikay - Well, it was a 'leak' after all, so I don't think they really wanted to make it apparent/public.
Now that it's on the table, I wonder what they are going to do, both publically, and privately... Hm.
China is kinda 'skitzo' (for lack of an impactful/relevant term) about their policies. It's sort of like how they have been implimenting new green policies out the wazoo, and just as quickly, pushing for industry which pollutes.
This, I think, is just another example of that.
PurpleGhost 1 month ago
The Sushi Chef Quote isn't surprising. North Korean ideology involves a lot of double think.
DarthAzabrush 1 month ago
Is it necessarily true that a state of war technically remains until a peace treaty is signed?
lazyperfectionist1 1 month ago
@lazyperfectionist1 Not necessarily, but war is still declared between SK and NK. North Korea is still under the impression they are at war, and South Korea never surrendered. They keep troops right on the border (both sides) watching each other's every move. There is still a technical war between the countries. And both have had terrorist attacks against the other. To us, the Korean war is long over. But not to them.
fruitikay 1 month ago
@fruitikay Maybe you detailed it in the video and I missed it, and if that's the case, I offer my apologies, but what would it take to bring the two to an official state of peace?
lazyperfectionist1 1 month ago
@lazyperfectionist1 North Korea is the main stubborn one because they have brainwashed everyone into thinking that America started the Korean War (when NK were the ones that invaded originally). They are pissed that American troops are still on the border of the South and have bases there. They want them to leave first, because they see their presence as a continued act of war and resistance. But even if US did leave, there would still be problems between NK and SK. It's hard to say. (con't)
fruitikay 1 month ago
@lazyperfectionist1 NK said that they will not cease their aggression unless the US removes troops. NK thinks that the only thing barring reunion with the South is the US. However, even if the US left, SK would never want to unify with them if their economy is still dead and their mentality is still towards the dictator, since they have a different political system and economical system. The "war" may never really end unless both sides agree to re-merge or be content with being NK and SK.
fruitikay 1 month ago
@fruitikay I'm under the impression that China also has troops along the northern side of the buffer zone. Am I right about that? Do you know?
lazyperfectionist1 1 month ago
^^ nice oblivion soundtrack on the end , i know im such a nerd
xxcelestialangelxx 1 month ago
Kim Jong-Dagon
Fanden2 1 month ago
That whole place is a giant concentration camp. And the people there are either extremely brainwashed, or scared to death. In that documentary, it was amazing how a doctor gave some people their sight back and the first thing they do is run up to a picture of the leader and start thanking him, completely ignoring the doctors and nurses who did the actual work. Pitiful and disgusting.
JabberCT 1 month ago
Very interesting summary. Thank you.
DonQuixotedeKaw 1 month ago
On a serious note, I've taken a look at the links, especially the photos of the North Korean people and I now feel sick.
thunderbolt94 1 month ago
You're looking gorgeous, as always! :)
thunderbolt94 1 month ago
There is no way in hell that South Korea will ever agree to merging back with North Korea unless all of Korea becomes South Korea. I just don't see that happening at all, because South Korea is a lot like the US only more humid apparently. So yea unless North Korea agrees to just give up I don't see it happening at all.
MistressArte 1 month ago
Also South Korea and the US are friends we really like each other, and there is no way in hell that they'd give up US support. That'd be like saying no I won't have the nice cake today instead I'll have this piece of hard candy I picked up from the floor. It'd make no sense on either side to break our friendship since the US and South Korea want the same thing it's really easy to be bff's when that happens.
MistressArte 1 month ago
@MistressArte We don't have to break friendship with South Korea, ever. But I do think we should significantly reduce bases and troops that reside to this day in SK. The South Koreans already have it going on, like you said, the country is a lot like the US as far as the economy is concerned. If anything happens to them, we will still help them out, but we don't need troops to remain on the border in my opinion. We already have nukes aimed at them anyway. Not that I like nukes. XD
fruitikay 1 month ago
@fruitikay If the US is stationed there keeping North Korea basically in check and they don't have spend money on it. They also get the added benefits of having more US people there to spend money it doesn't make sense for them both militarily and economically. They really have more reason to keep the US there then to not, and they are going to do what's best for them.
MistressArte 1 month ago
Also with nukes unless a country is brain dead they are just going to use them as empty threats. I'm more concerned with US nuclear power because we need a serious overhaul on the plants we have to get them safe and up to date. That to me is more worrisome then weapons because one earth quack you saw what happened in Japan and we have plants still in operation older then that.
MistressArte 1 month ago
North Korea is not communist at all. It is a monarchy using the rhetoric of communism to subjugate it's people. Eventually the il dynasty will fall and the country will either be integrated into the south or china will step in "in the interest of stability" and will be remade into the new Chinese state run capitalistic image.
Felhaven 1 month ago
Thank you for doing this. I was just about to look up Kim Jong-Un myself, something tells me that he'll be in the news very shortly for something after all if he's anything like his father. I'm now just wondering what "miracle" the N. Korean press is going to attribute to his birth and ascent to power (they claimed that birds were mourning at his father's funeral after all.)
It's a tragedy that the citizens are likely going to remain poor and hungry regardless of the outcome.
SleepNeed 1 month ago
Good Job on the weight loss. Total awsomeness! :)
One of the reasons that the economy at all picks up from time to time is the massive printing of fake US dollars that occurs. I saw one of the notes once and it was so funny. I a picture of President Kenndy with a space shuttle behind it. :/
It is sad that so many millions have died due to a lack of food. Starvation was a tool of the former Dear Leader while the military at the boader was always fed. Sad and tragic for the North.
Nice video!
jfrontier1 1 month ago
Kim Jong-Un, Kim Jong-Deux, Kim Jong-Trois, Kim Jong-Quatre...
trident343lives 1 month ago 8
@trident343lives Kim Jong-Canq, Kim Jong-Sept, Kim Jong-Huit, Kim Jong-Neuf. :)
fruitikay 1 month ago 4
@fruitikay Cinq* :D
Kim Jong-Dix, Kim Jong-Onze, Kim Jong-Deuze, Kim Jong-Treize, Kim Jong-Quatroze...
AdonTimasu 1 month ago
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trident343lives 1 month ago
Btw, Welcome Back! :-D
Happy New Year, and congratulations on reaching your weight goal! <3
Please forgive me for neglecting the social graces ;-D
Ujames1978 1 month ago
You busted out the C&C Red Alert theme. Awesome!
Skepticktok 1 month ago
Why did the top change through the video and then change back?
Frasssaanarchy 1 month ago
There's nothing wrong with Al Jazeera. It's Press TV and Russia Today that you need to be skeptical of.
SamySantana 1 month ago
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south korea should just annex the north using twitter revolt , hehe
jmm1233 1 month ago
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south korea should just annex the north using twitter revolt , hehe
jmm1233 1 month ago
south korea should just annex the north using twitter revolt , hehe
jmm1233 1 month ago
Wow, looking back at your older videos you can definitely see the weight loss, well done!
As for Kim Jong-Un, I see him as a bit of a puppet really with the military and other close advisers basically running the country.
Oh, and check out my newest video. ^_^
StanMarsh1 1 month ago
Garbage in, garbage out, endless cycle. Great video Jay,
zombeepictureshow 1 month ago
You came back with one hell of a video
Dar0A0Nakk 1 month ago
There is a website called vice.com that also has a series of video articles on North Korea....it was totally enlightening. On the same site is a series about a North Korean labor camp in...Siberia, Russia! The same site offers pictures of a NK park with *rides* that you absolutely must see. The whole thing is a propaganda tool for visitors..the only visitors in the park were the busload that was carted in just before the camera crew was allowed in. Picture: a zoo with just one animal:a peacock.
8journey8 1 month ago
Continuing from my last comment...
Regarding the actual future of North Korea, (regardless of who is in charge,) as you indicate, it's all really a vicious circle.
The South won't accept reunification now because millions of starving Northerners will bankrupt it. The North's Nuke Programme is their only real bargaining chip as they struggle to gain consetions and save face in negotiations. But the Nuke Programme is the reason for the sanctions which are crippling their economy. :-(
Ujames1978 1 month ago
@Ujames1978 If NK actually wanted to have a bargaining chip. I simply don't understand why they don't research biological weapons. They're far cheaper, and far more efficient. 1 man shipped to america, vs a Missile/Plain that could be shot down.
As crowded as our large cities are, they could take out 10% of our population, with 1 good strike.
The nuke program is showing over all to just be a horrible repeated idea...
Microtardz 1 month ago
Dear Jay,
Thank you very much for this excellent overview of the situation and for linking so much necessary info in the description. Of course, I for one already knew a great deal of this. And the reason why I didn't make a video after Kim Jong-Il died was that ultimately, like the death of Bin Laden, I didn't see it as having any real, lasting effect.
On reflection however, I wish that I had made a video like this, giving an overview and linking to the info while others 'Celebrated.'
Ujames1978 1 month ago
@Ujames1978 Yes, I do think the sanctions are ridiculous at this point in time. But NK mainly thinks that the nuclear weapon threat is the only thing keeping their country "safe" from the "Imperialist" America. Like you said, there is not much reason to celebrate his death, since things might not change that much with his death. I definitely think that reunification is not going to happen in the near future.
fruitikay 1 month ago
@fruitikay do you like doner kebabs?
ninjascroll6789 1 month ago
North Korea is like a throwback to ancient Rome or ancient Egypt where the Pharaohs and Emperors where gods.
zarkoff45 1 month ago
We should send them food. The entire country is essentially made up of hostages :/
DreamsOfCottages 1 month ago
Your face, fat? Ever? I call BULL SHIT!!!
I can't even say NK is communist... It's more totalitarian with large control from the state.
When I watch communists defend North Korea... I kind of facepalm..
Even if you drop all of the "propaganda", looking at their policies, it should be relatively obvious it's far from communism, and even further from marxism..
Furthermore, NK doesn't have the money for nuclear weapon development anyway... So why worry about that...
Microtardz 1 month ago
@Microtardz It is not so communist anymore. It is more Juche philosophy and IL took out any relations to communist ideologies out of the revised constitution in 1998. I know, it's really funny when communists try and defend NK, and even more sad when they deny oppression accusations. Analysts do think, however, that they already have a hold of nuclear weapons. In an account, IL said he would never fire a missile unless America did first...but they have tested them...
fruitikay 1 month ago
@fruitikay Off of what I understood, most of the tests had failed, and that they didn't actually have the ability to do long range missiles, only drop bombs.
Ofc, I haven't done any recent research on it because, honestly, the way I look at it, the reason China, NK, and the Middle east hate America. Is because of what the CIA did during the cold war, funding capitalist regimes and planting capitalist leaders.
But I don't think any of that is worth Kamikaze tactics. They'd just be killed too...
Microtardz 1 month ago
Ya this stuff is friggn depressing. I want new leadership to take over, but at the same time, with nukes involved, I kinda want the DRK to remain stable, at least until we can somehow know the exact location of the nukes and get to them first. It's a pretty bleak situation
Coquipirate 1 month ago
@Coquipirate I fail to see how nukes are really involved or a problem. Nukes are inefficient and cost large amounts of money. As far as I know every test they've had for them have ultimately failed.
The requirements to have the nukes go long range to do any damage to the US or, well, any country for that matter, is a huge blockade for them.
Anti-missile/ anti-aircraft ground forces in South korea. And that's to say NK could EVER get a working missile with their horrid economy.
Microtardz 1 month ago
@Microtardz I just don't want to see those nukes being taken by someone else and being sold to someone that would nuke someone else
Coquipirate 1 month ago
@Coquipirate Kinda screwed on that part, I imagine Russia and the US have been selling weapons, including nukes, to various people for years.
I know the US for 1 has sold the vast majority of the weapons used in by middle eastern soldiers, to the middle eastern soldiers.. Literally, US armed the middle east....
Microtardz 1 month ago
@Microtardz Africa too, but I doubt we sold nukes
Coquipirate 1 month ago
@Coquipirate I doubt it as well, but I wouldn't put it past us... I mean, if I heard America sold nukes to say, Switzerland, I wouldn't be shocked, well, I might be shocked Switzerland wanted american nukes, but not that America sold them.
Microtardz 1 month ago
Good to see you. You are looking great. Congrats on your weight loss goal. NK is a country to watch & the new leader... well, who knows if he'll be able to overcome his indoctrination AND all those who surround him who are most likely the real leaders. I get the impression that KJU is just a puppet for those really pulling the strings. Happy new year.
FreeformTao 1 month ago
FIRST!!!!
DreamsOfCottages 1 month ago