Climate Change Skeptics discussion with Victorian Skeptics on ABC's Insiders, 14/02/2010.

[CousinJennie]

I say again, Australian Skeptics need to lift their image big time if they want to look credible. A lot less ahs & ums & 'like', go somewhere & learn public speaking boys.

[DBonson]

It seems as if the Victorian Skeptics have converted to the church of global warming.

Climategate - search and learn.

[sydneysmooth21]

Anyone who rejects this idea is considered a denier, its like if you dont believe in it you need to be converted to "see the light" so to speak. Its as that you believe everyone has to believe it. It's like religon, such as if you are an athiest, the church considers you a denier. There is nothing to deny except that we can make our own choices, decisions and beliefs and no party has a right to push that on others.

[Viracocha711]

@sydneysmooth21 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about! "Skeptics" examine the evidence ALL OF IT together! Deniers simply deny something & ignore the evidence! So, it has nothing to do with "belief" or religion although Atheist are not "deniers" they are "Skeptics" who have look for the evidence & none exist so they reject the idea of a magical deity until there is evidence. Anthropogenic Climate Change is REAL...READ THE SCIENCE!!

[sydneysmooth21]

Climate change is a huge push to scare humanity into believing we have destroyed the planet, which has been here 4.5billion years. Without looking at the historical evidence of climate change. Is the only way to make society use renewable and green energy to use propaganda, falsified reports, and scare mongering? In WW2 the Nazi's used propaganda to make people believe that the jewish was bad etc, it worked people believed them. Are we expected to follow suit with climate change. I think not!

[sydneysmooth21]

How can those who understand the earths patterns, cycles and warming that occurs every 1500 years, which is a normal occurance be considered Deniers, when all the global warming pushers base their reports on falsified information, studies in favour of a global warming outcome. When in fact 2 thirds of scientists disagree with man made climate change. Its pure idiocy. Studies done even by NASA comparing our temperate to mars on a comparison scale did not differ.

[sydneysmooth21]

The sahara was once a lush rainforest, outback australia was once the ocean, temperatures and climates do change, its part of the earths natural cycle. It's sad that people have fallen for the propaganda today about human caused climate change which is irelevant considering 96% of global emissions are from natural sources, not man made. "Global warming" is a natural cycle. The earth has been here 4.5 billion years, man has not changed the entire planet in 200 years.

[firesnakepodcast]

Perhaps listen again to how they articulate "why" conclusions are reached, and also changed. Climate change is not 'global warming' - a semantic trick that bespeaks a fundamental inability to grasp basic climatology, much less emerging trends. Sahara, Mars, oceans in Australia: that's propaganda. Mediterranean has emptied and filled multiple times. Our species will be extinct before we witness such "natural" events. Meanwhile, the evidence demands we accept our role-not shirk responsibility.

[wyrwich]

@sydneysmooth21 Honestly, you are cherry picking at information. Are you an expert in this field? What is your phD. Or not even that. Please forward me links to the information you are getting this from?

[kittiecatd]

awesome work gentlemen! :D

[rachiesyd]

Just to clarify, this discussion is with lower case australian skeptics not Australian Skeptics Inc. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of Australian Skeptics Inc.

[hewnfelbar]

@rachiesyd Australian skeptics you mean? Australian would always have an uppercase A.

[rachiesyd]

Yes of course *facepalm*

Nice job gentleman!

[DatasWife]

Why do they go to a cafe to drink water? =P