New train for the UK 日立製作所の英国向け新型車両

[Hero87]

That Hitachi train looks boring compared to the bullet trains they have in Japan. Why can't we have the same blue/white bullet trains that they have?

[ThePrestonChannel]

Why The Fuck is everyone having a fight over which train is best , Damn you call youselfs trainspotters your making fools of yourselfs , everyone knows The Good Old Fashion Steam Locos Still are the best never forget Who needs fancy eletrics when a steam loco can go anywhere and still reach 125mph easily

[0816fk]

これぞまさに日本のモノづくりの真髄です！

[1madaboutguitar]

FAKE

[strongbowblade]

@1madaboutguitar you dont say

[AdmiralArcher]

What's that?

[SteamboatWilley]

@kiwibrittie WHY are we buying trains from Japan and Germany now? British train builders need to get back in the game!

[b191191]

@SteamboatWilley The British are buying trains from japan, Germany and other abroad country’s because unfortunately the British are too mentally incapacitated to build a suitable alternative.

The last thing the British economy needs is yet another batch of embarrassing units like class 142’s

Who the hell would want a railbus in a modern European country?

So yes. I welcome foreign manufactures

[teilhaus]

@b191191 These new trains should be designed and built in Britain. We don't just build railbuses, what about our 125s and 225s? We should design and build an updated version in Britain.

[b191191]

@teilhaus i still dont agree , the 123 and 225's was also a compleet embarrasment considering what the french built at the same time, compared to a class 390 i think id rarther travel on anyday over a 125 , there was once a group of rail experts who built the APT trains which was a viable alternative but once again the british passengers was mentally incapacitated and complained they felt sick traveling on them and as a result we stayed in the rail dark ages for another 40 years.

[b191191]

@teilhaus and not to mention the whole case of extremily poor quality track and signaling that is laid in the uk , again down to the workers at network rail who are too mentally incapacitated to lay track in a non bodge job way , they havnt as yet been able to break the 125 mph mental speed limit in the U.K and as such i wish they would abolish network rail and hand the whole contract over to FRENCH ALSTOM to build it to a equivilant standard as there perfect network

[badbob1982]

@b191191

You done slagging off Network Rail staff pal? 125mph is the limit for a reason. The cant of the track, signal sighting, bends, mixed traffic usage. You sound like someone who has never worn an orange jacket in your life and should stick to your day job.

Also, while we are on the subject of Alstom being so perfect... say that to the companies who have implemented the 1st Generation Pendolino, Juniper, Coradia and Adelantes. Every single one was crippled by problems with software.

[helloimearl1]

love the train but shame it can only go like 110 mph anyway they should run everywhere in the uk hopefull and uerostars and ice one day i hope

[r93931]

この調子で日本の鉄道、世界制覇なれ！！！！

[Jefferson1228]

Class 91s can easily go 140mp/h :P

GNER used to own a few Class 373s but gave them back to Eurostar.

[Ozy783]

@Jefferson1228 I was gutted

[DualDarkWoody]

Same! The GNER class 373s Look so cool

[class377]

Why do we have such slow trains? We're a snail considered to USA or Germany, and definitely France.

[atomicdanny2]

Slow compared to the US??? Your comparing our trains to the United States, no offence but the UK's trains are far better than theirs. The US give freight trains priority over passenger trains, and for the most part their train network is a joke!

[Hampuppy999]

what the us needs is a high speed rail link across the country, it has the space to do that

[DualDarkWoody]

US Trains consider 100mph as high speed, most of their trains only go 80mph, and is very low for Internation Standards.

And yeah our trains are far better :)

[WaerzMedia09]

@atomicdanny2

I know, their high speed "Acela Express" goes 150mph, our "Eurostar" goes 186 mph. If they wanna compare our trains slow to US, why is the A4 Pacific "Mallard" still hold the record for the fastest steam locomotive at 126 mph?

[robloxflightsim777]

@atomicdanny2 its sad but your right we do. our idiot governor just tuned down billions in dollars and jobs for a new high speed rail network for Florida, he said that Florida doesnt need one atm

[matthewsmith465]

USA trains suck. Their trains are never replaced, they use 30 + year old trains on their network.

[b191191]

americas trains are built to last and look respectable even after 30 years

british built trains of the last 50 years are compleet junk , which include

139 · 140 · 141 · 142 · 143 · 144 · 150 · 151 · 153 · 154 · 155 · 157 - 158 · 165 · 166 · 168

intercity 125

intercity 225

mark 2 ,3 and 4 coaches

[WaerzMedia09]

@b191191

Umad bro? We have a Class 373 Eurostar, capable of 207 mph, but only go 186 mph in service. You have a "Acela Express" capable of what 150 mph?

We have Class 395 Javelin's and Class 91/82 (Intercity 225) which are capable of 140 mph, making your Acela Express look silly, as Javelin's can run on Overhead Lines or Third Rails.

Such ashame Britain has the best steam locomotives, and probably the best train trasport in the Western World.

Even heard of the Rocket, Mallard?

Nuff said.

[b191191]

@class377

yes its definatly a shame

but the british have a poor mentality and refuse to get rid of useless old trains and replace them with decent trains made by self respecting people unlike those who worked at BREL :L

also network rail have a mental block of 125mph and the workers are too stupid to build a system capable of more

[hammyhero]

@b191191 what when we have a train that hit 208 miles an hour 300km get a grip mate

[daveyboy1006]

@b191191

So all British people have poor mentality do they? Well maybe I should go ahead and say that all Americans are ignorant and arrogant, which certainly includes you.

And also, before you continue to criticise our rail network, look back at your beloved America's pathetic excuse for one.

[DualDarkWoody]

US Trains only go upto 100mph and thats considerd fast. Our trains are not slow, soon the UK are upgrading to 250mph train line speeds in the close future, work starts around 2017

[gtopgtop]

Japan rules!

[SNAKEMAN742]

the javelin

[stepheng1483]

It is a humiliation that these trains were not designed and built in Britain.

[matthewsmith465]

We suck at technology.

[stepheng1483]

Not really, our 125s and 225s are good, we should have designed and built a modern updated version.

[WaerzMedia09]

@stepheng1483

Where did revolutions of British Engineering go?

Why can't we have better versions of Intercity 125's and 225's, back in that time they didn't muck that up, as they are so good they are still in service.

What about WAY back before I was born, the steam era.

[bwarrrrk]

can we have something thats faster,better and made in england please. i hate these javelins (flying dildos we know em as)

[Jefferson1228]

GNER used to have Class 373s which were faster back in 2000. Class 91s can go 140mp/h easily.

What's wrong with England buying Hitachi Javelins?

[bwarrrrk]

nothing. i wish they were a bit louder as u cant hear em coming :P

[atraherne]

ruined this with rediculous taxes a couple decades ago, still possible to try and build this sector back up but it will take a lot of time and the government would really need to bend over backwards to help industry re-build. Of course they all pay industry lip service but I havn't seen anything unfold. But, hey, this is politics.

[atraherne]

So there appears to be plans to build a new high speed rail in the UK starting in the next decade or so.

What about the existing lines? Is it possible to get trains to run on the old corridors at a slightly higher speed of say 140mph with new trains? or does the track need to be upgraded to allow for those speeds?

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@atraherne The Pendolinos are designed to run at up to 140 mph, but at the moment they only go at up to 125 because that's about as fast as they can go with conventional signalling - any faster and the singals fly past too quickly to be able to see them, so they'd need an in-cab signalling system and it was proving to be too expensive.

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@atraherne In any case, there's only so much you can get out of upgrading the existing network - even with the upgrades they reckon the West Coast Main Line will run out of capacity in the next few years with the way passenger numbers are growing. That's why they're so keen to push ahead with HS2.

[Prestonukbenny]

Ohayo ! Im Happy that England (igrisu ) got super cool (kakkoii ) japanese trains domo arigatou ichibanjp

[sens19861]

Virgin Voyagers are the most awful trains ever built.

[JBartlett09]

Voyagers are dead good. :)

[stepheng1483]

Voyagers are junk compared to 125s.

Voyagers are noisy, rattly and jerky, 125s are smooth as silk and whisper quiet when pulling away or stopping.

[b191191]

you mite think voyagers are junk compared to 125's which there not but 125's are compleet fuckin shite compared to pendelinos :)

[stepheng1483]

I disagree.

[WaerzMedia09]

@b191191

Pendolino's fucking shit compared to Intercity 225's as Intercity 225's don't need a Class 57 to pull them around all the time.

[DualDarkWoody]

I have to agree with you there! Voyagers are absolute SHIT.

[joshieboi005]

Cant wait until they get rid of those horrible 60's and 70's passenger trains!

The whole country needs trains like this. but they should go faster than 140 mph.

[tgm9991]

trains like this will not go all over the country as these are high speed trains and need high speed lines and high speed lines cost billions and take years to build.

PS all class 70's where scrapped years

[htsuji]

最近ニュースで 知ったのですが、

これが イギリスに輸出される

日立の高速鉄道なんですね？

色は青？

[flippstar09]

how f-ing gorejus is she, but u can tell it on computer ... there a leaf on la line and it still running lol

[Taunton82]

I know I'm a bit of an HST fan so I'm biased. I also know the HST is old technology, but let's face it....... in the UK nothing has beaten it!

Its ride quality is still superb (not like that awful knocking ride you get with Voyagers) and it remains one of the last proper solid machines to come out of the British engineering industry. It's such a shame we can't manage that anymore :-(

[chunkymon24490]

225s that run on the East Coast Mainline are definitely superior to HSTs. They have a better ride quality, a higher top speed and are electric.

[tb992]

Yes your right and on the 225s you have a more than half of 50% chance the aircon/heating will be working. The 225 on the whole is generally more modern aswell.

[trident3b]

agreed eng83, I've had it with the UK. The attitudes etc. make me ill. Whilst the Germans and French make us look ultra stupid technologically, we have to buy trains from japan, just like we had to buy cars from Japan in the 70s because our crap was axiomatic to failure 5 minutes after it left the factory. Pathetic. I have woked in the UK for the last 4 years trying to get a UK technology idea into Europe. I have never seen such short sightedness and stupidity in my life. I have left forever.

[konataspecial]

Im glad the Class 395 trains are being developed by the Japanese after all unlike most train services here in the UK the Japanese rail network is perhaps the most reliable on the planet and Hitachi have been at the forefront of many of the high speed services there. anyhow the trains themselves still had to be assembled when they showed up here so the south didn't miss out that many jobs. Gordon brown has "failed" us in the past but he got this right!

jobs V reliability? id go with reliability!

[viewson800]

I left England 22 years ago for that very same reason and cannot believe that the government still is shortsighted and lazy. Unfortunately the days of De Havelland, Hawker Siddelely, Supermarine and many many others Innovative British companies were destroyed by the government back then. Giving all our secrets and technology to America, and playing second fiddle to the industrialized world. It's bloody pathetic like you said...we don't even have concorde anymore. I gave up, so here I am in USA

[hstclass43]

I'd agree but they now have tilting trains in england

[viewson800]

but ther're not British!

[viewson800]

Funy enough I travelled on the Acela Express, Americas high speed train yesterday after I broke down in my car in Baltimore. I had to get back to Philadelphia. It took 1 hour for a 120 mile trip. I was impressed with the speed but not the ride. It was quite clancky creaky and wobbly for a high tech train. The 125s are smoother and have a solid footing. The last time I rode a 125 was in the 80s, and that's saying something about British trains.

[atraherne]

Yes, really for the other UK cities to thrive in the world market they need to really be making things and the government should support them in doing this. Obviously London is a financial powerhouse but we can't expect all our cities to compete in the global financial sector, they havn't got a chance in hell.

Transport would be a really good area of focus for industry for the other cities making cars, aircraft and trains. Ofcourse we used to do this but I feel the government

[Englander83]

Britain should be building our own trains. This is a humiliation for Britain by Gordon Brown the traitor.

[tonyphillips1984]

the hst still rules in my book network rail are in dreams with this during a credit crunch also it is electric

[newsmaniaingaidai]

it really look similar to some express trains here in Japan...

and good thing cause Hitachi plans to build plants in UK, not to take up jobs of British people...

[marcelim]

Because the javelins 395 are base in the 885 class used in Kyiushu and Taroko line in Taiwan, that's it!

I hope we can have something like this in Brazil someday, along with the HST.

[oujdawawa]

i agree

[getofmaballs]

No offence but that trains ugly :P

[peggey08]

na it's not

[StapledNote]

I think it looks cool

[getofmaballs]

well personaly i dont like it... this will replace the HSTs, voyagers and pendolinos (and many more) on the rails of the UK.

[StapledNote]

It won't replace HSTs, Pendos and Voyagers. The 395 has Euro pantograph height and the Pendolino has UK pantograph height, therefore it can't run on any other lines in the UK but High Speed 1. The 395 will ONLY be owned by SouthEastern because they are the only company that operate around High Speed 1. Voyagers are owned by AXC and Virgin and actually can't be replaced.

HSTs will not be replaced because many companies own them.

[getofmaballs]

Ohhhh... so wheres the high speed 1?

[StapledNote]

It's in Kent

It's the line that links London St. Pancras to the Channel Tunnel

[getofmaballs]

Oh :)

[Electrostar375]

No mate. Its only for southeastern so far.

[mac550]

not the HST's and the voyagers, that thing is electric.

the diesel version it looks like that but its in a HST formation, loco each end.

[HSTGORDON]

i agree

[mac550]

yeah i agree, they dont build trains like they did when British Rail days.

Those where the good ol' days

[lomajac07]

This is going to be the new south eastern service to ashford international

[rubis945]

It will be delayed due to leaves on the line . . .

[dekfungton]

Made by Hitachi in Japan or assembled in another country with Japanese parts?

[Chafford1]

St Pancras Station in London. It shows the new domestic high speed service from Kent in London which is going to start in 2009

[395010]

Very good where is this