With Q he is...if you've seen him use Sean, or Gouki, then you'd know that, in general, he's not. He's a turtler with Q because Q has very few options in a fight, which is why he hits so hard--and personally, I don't think it compensates fairly, hence his spot on the tier list. Don't get me wrong, I love Q, he's my main, but still...
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I only like Q for his Self Destruct Super, otherwise I'd never play with the dude. I hate Hugo, too big. Ibuki is a somewhat fave and Gill's a beast to play with.
yeah, his moveset is very reactionary but it also has holes. the only natural choice is to be defensive. he's too vulnerable and easy to parry-counter, on attack.
tiers has nothing to do with it. Q is a heavy hitter, and has as much if not more health that hugo. ibuki has low health and does little damage to him. ive lost to a Q many times as well because of the same reason. Im an ibuki player, and id land like 5 hits on a Q then hed hit me once and do the same amount of damage.
Q has less health, but more with taunts. Without taunts, first is Hugo, then Urien, then like a 6-way tie including Q. With taunts, it's Q, Hugo, Chun, Urien, then a 5-way tie.
Very late reply, but after 3 taunts, Q would still be low tier. The tier list usually focuses around a character's ability to control and take advantage of other character's weaknesses.
Q's bonus defense doesn't help him do damage to any character, it just gives him more opportunities.
If you fight a character who spanks you, and start the next round with 3 taunts in, you'll still get spanked, it'll just take longer.
You can't call it an analysis since I'm not using actual figures. Other than Q's spot on the tier list and the well known rule of controlling your space, my comment was an opinion to answer a hypothetical question.
If you'd like to contribute more than "health matters" - a point I'm sure anyone who's ever played a game knows is true - you're more than welcome to.
Interesting idea Jerails. Are you claiming that In theory, if Q took only 1% damage and gods were playing he would still be low tier since he would be unable to hit the opposing player therefore his health count is irrelevant?
My issue here is that humans are playing. "Perfects" are rare even in the worst of matchups :) But you're right, he still may not move far on the list. If any experienced player has a few minutes i'd love to see how they re-evaluate a standard tier list with 3 taunts in!
@sotovo Everybody is tha same Tier has nothing to do with this game. Thats why its soo awesome. You have to know how to play with characters. The high tier chars are easier to play with. that's all the lower tier require more skill. But you notice the high tier chars have low health. For example ryu doing ex moves all day can be a problem checkit out.
I love how Kuroda has trained to remain completely calm when pushed to the corner(And I know for myself that its pretty hard to keep in control of things when you don't have much health left and your opponents raining down on you like that in the corner).
He just stays crouched and blocks until he sees an opening and he counters.
Uh, that taunt is the only thing making Q at par with the other characters. And even with it, he's more difficult to play than almost every other character.
Not really. Q's massive power and reliable supers make him at par with the other characters. Every street fighter character has an ablility that makes them different from others. Q's is strentgh ( that taunt). As seeing from how Kuroda handled multiple challengers with Q, with a matter of 10 to 20 moves per round, i'd say Q is fairly easy if you know what you're doing.
Kurodas defense is just insane. Just watch 0:23-0:40. He was basically stuck in that corner for what? 17 seconds? That's an eternity by SFIII standards. Nuts.
personally i love that feeling when urien or yun get you in a situation with their supers where you can only parry or block and you survive the entire ordeal without taking anything more than blockdamage. i only play at amateur level but it's so satisfying. especially since as a 12 player i have no instant wakeup attacks and have to take it a lot!
i kind of feel sry for the Ibuki in the 3rd round there. She was beating on him for a good 30 secs, hit him with how many throws, 2supers, and 1 hit from Q, the back MP, did almost the same damage she had done in all that.
Wow. How did Kuroda survive in the corner. Especially in the Final Round. Ibuki was coming hard, N Kuroda made a way of winning that round. Respect to both fighters. A great match. Kuroda has probably the best Q I have seen so far.
Kuroda is such a god. he took out jwong and ricky ortiz (top U.S. players) using chun and ken in an sbo semi right? just goes to show how much more skill japanese players have. amazing
hahah god all that defense is nuts :P I love it!
RAEN74 6 months ago
Q and Ibuki are my favorites
SgtRedstar 11 months ago
Chonto sais the same thing to his crack pipe: CMON JUST ONE MORE HIT!!!1!
darkowin 1 year ago
hell yea! HD quality, baby!
kurojin97 1 year ago
Q should play basketball...
WrenchSamaurai 1 year ago
10 fps video, awesome.
OscarMaris 2 years ago
It's so that we don't miss a single move from Q. He's so hard to follow and all.
TancerFang 1 year ago
lol @ 3:27 Q slammed the hell out of her. Guess he had enough of those kunai.
steventhebol 2 years ago
q"why wont this ninja chick leave me alone , im just trying to get back to the city"
k04sk 2 years ago 16
That corner lock down was pretty good by Chonto.
TheWolfWolford 2 years ago
Q is a born and bred counter-attacker. His powerful attacking coupled with insurmountable defense proves this.
Doesn't help that Ibuki is a pressurer and she also has very low health.
elfirrepins 2 years ago
q looks like a robot detective i saw in a anime movie called metropolis
NewOldSchoolGamer 2 years ago 2
Q is probably based on "The Question". A comic book character created by Steve Ditko. Dressed the same way, but with a blank mask.
Exhuman 2 years ago
Ibuki kämpft sich da einen ab, dann kommt Q mit einem gscheiten kombo und schon ise tot xDD
Kratos94nb 2 years ago
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Kuroda's such a turtler... whatever works I guess
trbt21 2 years ago
With Q he is...if you've seen him use Sean, or Gouki, then you'd know that, in general, he's not. He's a turtler with Q because Q has very few options in a fight, which is why he hits so hard--and personally, I don't think it compensates fairly, hence his spot on the tier list. Don't get me wrong, I love Q, he's my main, but still...
TehPwnage1337h4x0rz 2 years ago 22
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I only like Q for his Self Destruct Super, otherwise I'd never play with the dude. I hate Hugo, too big. Ibuki is a somewhat fave and Gill's a beast to play with.
DJDesikari 2 years ago
I like Q because I think he's cool looking, I like his taunt effect, and when used properly, can do A LOT of damage in a single combo.
TehPwnage1337h4x0rz 2 years ago 9
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Gill is banned from any tourney though... Urien, owns!
cookiemaster32 2 years ago
yeah, his moveset is very reactionary but it also has holes. the only natural choice is to be defensive. he's too vulnerable and easy to parry-counter, on attack.
LagDotCom 2 years ago
fucking kuroda's godlike with ANY charactor no lie
darkzealot07 2 years ago 3
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odd how a low tier just wooped a medium/high tier =C
aza4444 3 years ago
tiers has nothing to do with it. Q is a heavy hitter, and has as much if not more health that hugo. ibuki has low health and does little damage to him. ive lost to a Q many times as well because of the same reason. Im an ibuki player, and id land like 5 hits on a Q then hed hit me once and do the same amount of damage.
PapaLeGrand 3 years ago 10
Q has less health, but more with taunts. Without taunts, first is Hugo, then Urien, then like a 6-way tie including Q. With taunts, it's Q, Hugo, Chun, Urien, then a 5-way tie.
moonlitearthx14 3 years ago
Kuroda is godlike with Q
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shaktazuki 3 years ago
Q is human or robot?I wonder.
SWH1990 3 years ago
I've never seen a Q vs Q fight before I wonder what it would look like.
sonicspeediscrazy 3 years ago 5
Lots of down block and throws.
mx0670 2 years ago 5
Low tier with more stamina. Just kidding but I would say he'd not be THAT much higher.
PoolsAnonymous 3 years ago
Q is ranked low tier. But hypothetically If Q gets in his three taunts say at the beginning of the round where does he now rank?
sotovo 3 years ago
Very late reply, but after 3 taunts, Q would still be low tier. The tier list usually focuses around a character's ability to control and take advantage of other character's weaknesses.
Q's bonus defense doesn't help him do damage to any character, it just gives him more opportunities.
If you fight a character who spanks you, and start the next round with 3 taunts in, you'll still get spanked, it'll just take longer.
Jerails 2 years ago 3
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What a retarded analysis. Health matters. Without health you're dead.
Tarsiven 2 years ago
You can't call it an analysis since I'm not using actual figures. Other than Q's spot on the tier list and the well known rule of controlling your space, my comment was an opinion to answer a hypothetical question.
If you'd like to contribute more than "health matters" - a point I'm sure anyone who's ever played a game knows is true - you're more than welcome to.
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Interesting idea Jerails. Are you claiming that In theory, if Q took only 1% damage and gods were playing he would still be low tier since he would be unable to hit the opposing player therefore his health count is irrelevant?
My issue here is that humans are playing. "Perfects" are rare even in the worst of matchups :) But you're right, he still may not move far on the list. If any experienced player has a few minutes i'd love to see how they re-evaluate a standard tier list with 3 taunts in!
sotovo 2 years ago
@sotovo Everybody is tha same Tier has nothing to do with this game. Thats why its soo awesome. You have to know how to play with characters. The high tier chars are easier to play with. that's all the lower tier require more skill. But you notice the high tier chars have low health. For example ryu doing ex moves all day can be a problem checkit out.
SuperSF4yeaaa 2 years ago
@SuperSF4yeaaa ken , makoto & chun li don't have low health . Yun isnt easy to play with.
moiseman 1 year ago
I love how Kuroda has trained to remain completely calm when pushed to the corner(And I know for myself that its pretty hard to keep in control of things when you don't have much health left and your opponents raining down on you like that in the corner).
He just stays crouched and blocks until he sees an opening and he counters.
shougoh 3 years ago 4
wow. kuroda wins the final match after spending 2:35-3:39 in the corner. impressive.
lumiere707 3 years ago 6
if chonto had jumped a bit further back and did a MP super that last round, it might have changed things...but he landed into a throw :|
onreload 3 years ago
Can't help it. All throws have MASSIVE priority, as I always use throws as a means of escaping corner traps.
MrCactuar13 3 years ago
@MrCactuar13 b/c he is tall he can block the attack high. Where the shotos have Dragon punches to combat that
SuperSF4yeaaa 2 years ago
chonto = red ?
Johnyster 3 years ago 3
I love Kuroda's play style...It always cracks me up
lofatash 3 years ago 9
jesus. props to red.
that taunt is such bs.
st3v3n3ss 3 years ago
Uh, that taunt is the only thing making Q at par with the other characters. And even with it, he's more difficult to play than almost every other character.
EmperorElliott 3 years ago 2
Not really. Q's massive power and reliable supers make him at par with the other characters. Every street fighter character has an ablility that makes them different from others. Q's is strentgh ( that taunt). As seeing from how Kuroda handled multiple challengers with Q, with a matter of 10 to 20 moves per round, i'd say Q is fairly easy if you know what you're doing.
Mugen123456789 3 years ago
Have you tried using Q against even a mildly experienced player?
EmperorElliott 3 years ago 8
Then why is Q always placed Low-Tier
HonorTruth 3 years ago 3
Kurodas defense is just insane. Just watch 0:23-0:40. He was basically stuck in that corner for what? 17 seconds? That's an eternity by SFIII standards. Nuts.
7eventhSamurai 4 years ago 6
ye he has a fabulous ability to soak it up.
personally i love that feeling when urien or yun get you in a situation with their supers where you can only parry or block and you survive the entire ordeal without taking anything more than blockdamage. i only play at amateur level but it's so satisfying. especially since as a 12 player i have no instant wakeup attacks and have to take it a lot!
meatflowers 3 years ago
12 huh!
bumfilmpoo 3 years ago
i kind of feel sry for the Ibuki in the 3rd round there. She was beating on him for a good 30 secs, hit him with how many throws, 2supers, and 1 hit from Q, the back MP, did almost the same damage she had done in all that.
Broly2012 4 years ago 3
Kuroda got two taunts off, increasing Q's already crazy defense.
tainteddonuts 4 years ago
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1 taunt boosts defense, 2 doesn't, the 3rd does.
mx0670 4 years ago
Incorrect. All of them do but the second one doesn't increase it to the same degree the other two do.
ArmenianAssassin 4 years ago 4
Yep, as with the third taunt he now has 37.5% more life, thus having the most life of any character in the whole game.
heeey06 4 years ago 2
Wow. How did Kuroda survive in the corner. Especially in the Final Round. Ibuki was coming hard, N Kuroda made a way of winning that round. Respect to both fighters. A great match. Kuroda has probably the best Q I have seen so far.
cable03 4 years ago
he got 3 taunts off
aznboikyle 4 years ago
and turtles like perfection against überpressing chars, yet has very smart moves there'n'there
Hourayra 4 years ago
Amazing. Kuroda is my hero!
BaJoRo 4 years ago
Kuroda is such a god. he took out jwong and ricky ortiz (top U.S. players) using chun and ken in an sbo semi right? just goes to show how much more skill japanese players have. amazing
sowutifmahsnsux 5 years ago
Low tiers for life!
jpilnoy 5 years ago 5
<3 Kuroda. Nice match.
Hateblade 5 years ago
Chonto vs Kuroda. Kuroda made it to SBO semifinal with Hayao before.
jstarlee 5 years ago