That choke is nice. Could you shoot an alternate view from the side so we can see how your controlling the body with your knees? It looks like when you come up to pass the gi top under his head you open up space- great choke and a great feint for the lock. Nicely done.
gi training works, i'm just not a fan. if someone grabbed my shirt in a comp for a choke i'd just rip it off, i've done it before. it is only a handicap if you don't train without one as well.
One good variation is to let the opponent roll towards you to defend the attack, so that he will let his own arm to fall into your trap. This certainly will improve the tightening of the choke. Another one is to let him go for turtle position, keep your crossed-lapel arm with the first grip, reach to it over his shoulders and pull him to your chest. Tell me what you think about that later. Greetings from Brazil, great vids! =)
Stop arguing about gi vs. no gi. Who cares, just do the sport. You have a preference if you want a gi or not so you decide, don't try to force others on what to do.
But yes, you can do more in a gi since you can hold onto it and use it against them for chokes.
It is NOT Kata Gatame (Brabo, etc.)...it is closer to Sode...
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Read my post. I said that this is NOT Kata Gatame. It is closer to Sode Guruma Jime. The person who made this video, titled it Brabo Choke. Brabo Choke is a variation of Kata Gatame.
Kata Gatame is an arm triangle choke and strangle. So Brabo falls under Kata Gatame according to Doctor Jigoro Kano. Learn the move...and realize all of the variations...
Man that was great! I saw a video of Draculino teaching a similar idea last week and it worked well, but I think this might be an even simpler way to get it. Awesome!
seems like his hips are high...how do you prevent the bottom from recovering guard? seems like he could easily reinsert his inside knee to recover position....thoughts?
seems like his hips are high...how do you prevent the bottom from recovering guard? seems like he could easily insert his inside knee to recover position...thoughts?
This can't possibly be sode-guruma-jime as the sode (sleeve) was not even used. The arms are crossed in standard juji style. This is simply kata-juji-jime from the side. Nonetheless, it is not this thing called "brabo" choke, which, by the way, I didn't yet identified as a technique in its own accord...
in a street fight i agree the adrenaline would not allow one to remeber that move, but in a compettion your out of your mind and you obviously have never done bjj
no, I practice traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu (blue belt about 3 months out from brown belt) equivalent to a BJJ purple belt right now. Im not saying it cant happen, but there are ALOT of steps, and the situation would have to be almost perfect for it to happen. Besides, a truely good practitioner shouldnt have to think while grappling, you body/muscle memory and feel is what makes submissions successful. Also 0:57 and 1:07 are very suspect/lucky situations. Thanks for replying intellectually.
by 0:56 I mean the transition from one hand to the other and by 1:06 I mean the push. Both of those things are dependant upon the uki. I mean to transition like he did while actually grappling would never happen, lets be honest
Well JJJ is not similar or the same thing as Bjj so you being a blue belt will not automatically qualify you as being a purple belt, i don't know where you got that notion from (no disrespect)
Its like saying just because one does tkd they are good in muay thai. Its too different arts.
Now i have seen black belts pull those sub in tournaments where they use the lapel in the gi to choke somebody ill post a link if you want. and if you wonder i do practice mma including bjj, in new york.
I wasnt saying that my blue belt is the equivalent to a BJJ purple belt technique wise, I was saying it as a reference to the time Ive put into training 3.5 years now. JJJ is the same as BJJ, however both styles focus on diferent aspects, BJJ focusing more on groundwork, and JJJ being a little more all encompasing. I also train Pankration and from time to time I try to pick up a Judo lesson from the guys we share a gym with. I train in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
Okay that explains a lot. but one thing you do know that BJJ and judo are the same not JJJ and BJJ.
A Judoka from japan went to brasil and taught judo to the Gracies which they eventually revolutionize the art by taking out katas focusing more on the ground game, etc.
Japanese Jui Jitsu has nothing to do with BJJ and is very different.
Technique wise you might find similarities but in the approach everything else is different.
Totally agree with you. I guess what you could say I train is really a hybrid JJJ, Pankration, MMA. Grading is for JJJ belts however. I could honestly care less about belts, Ive been beaten by and beat black belts while grappling, once you have a certain amount of training and expereince a belt really means nothing.
I would not call it sode-guruma-jime as there was no use of the sode (sleeve). It looks like a crossed choke, standard juji-jime, more specifically kata-juji-jime, from the side. Now, BJJ (or GJJ) has lots to do with Kodokan Judo, as Mitsuyo Maeda was a Kodokan Judoka (a 4th degree black belt), and he was the one that taught the Gracie... So, there's a direct link between both arts.
you probabbly dont want to choke people in a street fight if they dont know about bjj I think they would think you are trying to murder them...I know a bjj guy who choked someone who doesnt know it and the guy shit his pants.... literally
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I can't see this being performed in competition, much less the streets. I would like to see this guy's competition where he subbed a using this choke.
@NoPalePastels the video itself show that the technique is for jiu jitsu only pourposes. didnt mean like this will help you when a cop busted you during a meth trading transaction hahaha but at least the comment make me laugh anyway
@kenprimo yes and no, don't forget nogi takes oportunities to get grabbed, means gives the oponent opportunities if you have a jacket (sorry, didn't finish my first post, wasn't fully awake -_-)
@kenprimo what if the fighter takes of his shirt or jacket...i dont fight with my shirt on. just because the less they can grab the better. so NO is the answer!!!
@mindtrikz12 no gi's arent realistic. People wear long sleeves jeans or jackets. Also, I train both, its easier for me to take off my gi and go no gi. You cant just put one on and go gi.
Awesome, thank you! I will try this
HauntedByMe 3 months ago
any one that allows this is a moron and should even be in competition fighting/grapling
Nomad22280 4 months ago
What is gi?
blakelandes 5 months ago
@blakelandes Its a penis enhancement pill. Very useful for jiu-jitsu since size makes a difference.
BadAssBlackOverlord 4 months ago
cool variation - going to try this tonight in class ;)
3Daver 6 months ago
These chokes hurt like a motherfucker.
migraine516 9 months ago
Isnt this the ezekiel choke n u can do it simply enough without jacket n just using arms
weedpussymoney321 9 months ago
That choke is nice. Could you shoot an alternate view from the side so we can see how your controlling the body with your knees? It looks like when you come up to pass the gi top under his head you open up space- great choke and a great feint for the lock. Nicely done.
yamashitashorinryu 9 months ago
People on the streets walk with guns, knifes , all kinds o stuff that can hurt , this is a sport not a street figth .
But i can tell that if you fight a Jiu Jistu guy with or without gi , without ground fight knowledge , you will get your ass whooped
zekaio123 10 months ago 2
nice choke!
angrysincebirth 10 months ago
That was the worst introduction to date.
ADdadirector 10 months ago
gi training works, i'm just not a fan. if someone grabbed my shirt in a comp for a choke i'd just rip it off, i've done it before. it is only a handicap if you don't train without one as well.
crazycollins 11 months ago
The gi tightens up your technique.. not everything is about fighting on the street ..
martinods 11 months ago
One of my favorites! I like to do it from side control and finish from knee to belly
GsxR750Speedemon 1 year ago
One good variation is to let the opponent roll towards you to defend the attack, so that he will let his own arm to fall into your trap. This certainly will improve the tightening of the choke. Another one is to let him go for turtle position, keep your crossed-lapel arm with the first grip, reach to it over his shoulders and pull him to your chest. Tell me what you think about that later. Greetings from Brazil, great vids! =)
albertpatrick87 1 year ago
Ken, I've seen a lot of your videos and I think you're awesome! lol I'd love to visit your school. Where do you train at?
Br0wnrice 1 year ago
@Br0wnrice Wilmington DE..come 1 come all, open door policy for the best training in the area
balg03 11 months ago
how do u get his arm in position.
ph33ric 1 year ago
Kore Namae wa Kimono Gyaku Kata Gatame
MartinezMuayThai 1 year ago
Stop arguing about gi vs. no gi. Who cares, just do the sport. You have a preference if you want a gi or not so you decide, don't try to force others on what to do.
But yes, you can do more in a gi since you can hold onto it and use it against them for chokes.
YuppItzCorey 1 year ago 2
@YuppItzCorey agreed
MrMaynard77 1 year ago
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It is NOT Kata Gatame (Brabo, etc.)...it is closer to Sode...
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Read my post. I said that this is NOT Kata Gatame. It is closer to Sode Guruma Jime. The person who made this video, titled it Brabo Choke. Brabo Choke is a variation of Kata Gatame.
stevemarce1988 1 year ago
Kata Gatame is an arm triangle choke and strangle. So Brabo falls under Kata Gatame according to Doctor Jigoro Kano. Learn the move...and realize all of the variations...
stevemarce1988 1 year ago
thts stupid that you can grab someones gee like that and use that against them.
Elipticle 1 year ago
Man that was great! I saw a video of Draculino teaching a similar idea last week and it worked well, but I think this might be an even simpler way to get it. Awesome!
AndrewCopland 1 year ago
Look at the mechanics of Sode...and then compare them to this (totally wrong title (which was my point) ) vid...think...
stevemarce1988 2 years ago
@stevemarce1988 if it was to be named it could possibly be called ushiro katagatame. But its not just katagatame
cryingindian 1 year ago
It is NOT Kata Gatame (Brabo, etc.)...it is closer to Sode...
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seems like his hips are high...how do you prevent the bottom from recovering guard? seems like he could easily reinsert his inside knee to recover position....thoughts?
bsimms1965 2 years ago
seems like his hips are high...how do you prevent the bottom from recovering guard? seems like he could easily insert his inside knee to recover position...thoughts?
bsimms1965 2 years ago
Nice choke.
01jiujitsu 2 years ago
Sode Guruma NOT Kata Gatame (Brabo)
stevemarce1988 2 years ago 2
This can't possibly be sode-guruma-jime as the sode (sleeve) was not even used. The arms are crossed in standard juji style. This is simply kata-juji-jime from the side. Nonetheless, it is not this thing called "brabo" choke, which, by the way, I didn't yet identified as a technique in its own accord...
loudenvier 2 years ago
lol wat
afreiden 1 year ago
@stevemarce1988 lol a brabo choke is NOT kata gatame
cryingindian 1 year ago
ben stiller
Mihail19861986 2 years ago 2
you could never do all of those things in sequence to sink that in, this is something that you get lucky with or happens to work out by accident.
killerkowalczyk 2 years ago
u are an idiot
JawBreakerJimmy 2 years ago
in a street fight i agree the adrenaline would not allow one to remeber that move, but in a compettion your out of your mind and you obviously have never done bjj
gomelo2gt 2 years ago
no, I practice traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu (blue belt about 3 months out from brown belt) equivalent to a BJJ purple belt right now. Im not saying it cant happen, but there are ALOT of steps, and the situation would have to be almost perfect for it to happen. Besides, a truely good practitioner shouldnt have to think while grappling, you body/muscle memory and feel is what makes submissions successful. Also 0:57 and 1:07 are very suspect/lucky situations. Thanks for replying intellectually.
killerkowalczyk 2 years ago
by 0:56 I mean the transition from one hand to the other and by 1:06 I mean the push. Both of those things are dependant upon the uki. I mean to transition like he did while actually grappling would never happen, lets be honest
killerkowalczyk 2 years ago
Well JJJ is not similar or the same thing as Bjj so you being a blue belt will not automatically qualify you as being a purple belt, i don't know where you got that notion from (no disrespect)
Its like saying just because one does tkd they are good in muay thai. Its too different arts.
Now i have seen black belts pull those sub in tournaments where they use the lapel in the gi to choke somebody ill post a link if you want. and if you wonder i do practice mma including bjj, in new york.
gomelo2gt 2 years ago
I wasnt saying that my blue belt is the equivalent to a BJJ purple belt technique wise, I was saying it as a reference to the time Ive put into training 3.5 years now. JJJ is the same as BJJ, however both styles focus on diferent aspects, BJJ focusing more on groundwork, and JJJ being a little more all encompasing. I also train Pankration and from time to time I try to pick up a Judo lesson from the guys we share a gym with. I train in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
killerkowalczyk 2 years ago
Okay that explains a lot. but one thing you do know that BJJ and judo are the same not JJJ and BJJ.
A Judoka from japan went to brasil and taught judo to the Gracies which they eventually revolutionize the art by taking out katas focusing more on the ground game, etc.
Japanese Jui Jitsu has nothing to do with BJJ and is very different.
Technique wise you might find similarities but in the approach everything else is different.
gomelo2gt 2 years ago
Totally agree with you. I guess what you could say I train is really a hybrid JJJ, Pankration, MMA. Grading is for JJJ belts however. I could honestly care less about belts, Ive been beaten by and beat black belts while grappling, once you have a certain amount of training and expereince a belt really means nothing.
killerkowalczyk 2 years ago
get your info straight, Gracie was taught judo Kodokan, not Jiu Jiutsu, Carlos Gracie has never finish with is NEWAZA. Look the fight between
Kimura vs Helio Gracie. Helio got his ass kick the man did know how to pass the guard and more, Sensei Kimura teach him a lesson.
Samboussr 2 years ago
@Samboussr what was the weight difference between kimura and helio?
muddychucks 1 year ago
The point is BJJ or GJJ has nothing to do with Japanese JJ or Judo Kodokan or Kosen Judo.
in this video this guy is demo, the tech, we call in Japanese Sode Guruma, simple choke! nothing special about it!
Samboussr 2 years ago
I would not call it sode-guruma-jime as there was no use of the sode (sleeve). It looks like a crossed choke, standard juji-jime, more specifically kata-juji-jime, from the side. Now, BJJ (or GJJ) has lots to do with Kodokan Judo, as Mitsuyo Maeda was a Kodokan Judoka (a 4th degree black belt), and he was the one that taught the Gracie... So, there's a direct link between both arts.
loudenvier 2 years ago
you should try Kosen Judo 100% NEWAZA Ground Fighting
Samboussr 2 years ago
nice choke but why is a blue belt demostrating on a brown belt?
axeboavida 2 years ago
i believe that was explained
JawBreakerJimmy 2 years ago
essa eu faço direto
ligeirinhoweb 2 years ago
you probabbly dont want to choke people in a street fight if they dont know about bjj I think they would think you are trying to murder them...I know a bjj guy who choked someone who doesnt know it and the guy shit his pants.... literally
geobros 2 years ago
Umm. it's him or you dude, who gives a fuck if you scare them. they will be lucky if you don't fuckin' kill them... damn right they should be afraid.
EVILTRIPS666 2 years ago 2
The reasons you gave for not wanting to choke someone in street fight, are the very reasons you would want to choke them; game over. :)
powerone1 2 years ago 2
boo.....yeah cuz everyone walks around with a GI daily...
cacaboy900 2 years ago
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I can't see this being performed in competition, much less the streets. I would like to see this guy's competition where he subbed a using this choke.
MPA2000 2 years ago
Its a brabo choke you fucking idiot, a basic jiu jitsu choke performed in competition all the time. This is a good demonstration too.
Smuggler89 2 years ago 2
No kidding how about wating even longer after I already got my answer?
MPA2000 2 years ago
happens all the time noob
JawBreakerJimmy 2 years ago
Nah.
MPA2000 2 years ago
not in a competition ?? why wouldnt ?
nickynoneck 2 years ago
pretty terrible
SeanyW1888 2 years ago
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i dont like gis
ther really unrealistic
mindtrikz12 2 years ago
what can you do no gi that you cant do with gi or jacket on the street? gi or jacket has more options, no...?
kenprimo 2 years ago 21
but applying it in real life or mma competition u dount c guys walkin in the street with gis
but ur rite gi does giv more variation
mindtrikz12 2 years ago
In real life. people are not walking around in nothing but tapout shorts either.
NoPalePastels 2 years ago 39
But people do walk around with jackets and zip ups all the time ;-)
cdub6969 2 years ago 2
@NoPalePastels the video itself show that the technique is for jiu jitsu only pourposes. didnt mean like this will help you when a cop busted you during a meth trading transaction hahaha but at least the comment make me laugh anyway
Chrisdaehan 4 months ago
Great point!
NoPalePastels 2 years ago 2
@kenprimo yes and no, don't forget nogi takes oportunities to get grabbed, means gives the oponent opportunities.
laokon 1 year ago
@kenprimo yes and no, don't forget nogi takes oportunities to get grabbed, means gives the oponent opportunities if you have a jacket (sorry, didn't finish my first post, wasn't fully awake -_-)
laokon 1 year ago
@kenprimo totally agree with you, even shirts can help for chokes
asdfero 1 year ago
@kenprimo what if the fighter takes of his shirt or jacket...i dont fight with my shirt on. just because the less they can grab the better. so NO is the answer!!!
ghotter 1 year ago
@kenprimo when the gracie started this thing, people wore suits... that's why the use of the gi... to simulate the suits..
telosd 1 year ago
@mindtrikz12 - Most streetfights happen naked...
BlackNinjaStrength 1 year ago
@mindtrikz12 no gi's arent realistic. People wear long sleeves jeans or jackets. Also, I train both, its easier for me to take off my gi and go no gi. You cant just put one on and go gi.
pcfixdepot 1 year ago
@mindtrikz12 sweatshirt = gi
Arcturistheballer 1 year ago
@mindtrikz12 everybody wear cloth, so gi is actually very real. no-gi is more for MMA show
serdgeedgerunner 1 year ago
@mindtrikz12 unrealistic for what?
zimmermandk 11 months ago
pardon me if may look ignorant with this question; what if the blue gi guy blocks with his right hand/arm?
guitargod01lovesBJJ 2 years ago
looks nice but isnt that difficult to execute in a real bjj fight?
guitargod01lovesBJJ 2 years ago
I was taught this at a seminar, but forgot the move. Thanks for reminding me.
scotty742 3 years ago
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Learn to submit people without a gi noob.
I hate people that rely on gis.
imnotbad9 3 years ago
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Same here
crozsi 3 years ago
ur a noob gi is just as important
RicardoAlvarado415 2 years ago
how do u apply it with no gi? grab ur own hand and use that as the force to apply the choke?
OsamaBinLadenx 3 years ago
Very nice submission. I like the fact that it is a counter to a previous submission defense
callowayman 3 years ago
Then you can't use the brabo choke.
NCrun4fun 3 years ago
Really? I don´t think so.
smurfbjj 3 years ago
You can use the brabo it's just different with no gi. You can't feed the lapel.
NCrun4fun 3 years ago
The brabo is basically an artery choke. YOu can use the lapel or the forearm.
NCrun4fun 3 years ago
what if there not wearing a gi?
irbb07 3 years ago
Great setup. with no gi you can still start the same way. When he feels the threat then you smash the arm down and go for typical brabo chocke.
Hector2028 3 years ago
Kendall grove did this in one of his fights and tapped the guy. It works.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago