каждая нация по своему велика, то что мы казахи, узбеки, кыргызы, татары, башкиры, турки, каракалпаки, уйгуры, азербайжанцы, туркмены, ногайцы, карачаевцы, аварцы и многие другие: все братья ТЮРКУТЫ. Это надо в первую очередь знать.
@Wessexify Тамерлан был скорее тюрком монгольского происхождения. Шейбани хан откочевал от северных узбеков, которые вскоре стали называться казахами. Их обоих невозможно назвать узбеками в современном понимании.
Tamerlan byl istinnym turkom segodnyashnie nasledniki centra imperij ozbeki(turki) v pereferij kazahi,turkmeny,azerbadjancy,uygury, kirgizy(tozhe turki). No tak kak sredi ego zhyon byli mongoly on skazal chto ego deti budut "mugul-turkami" to est' turkami smeshannye s mongolami. Ot etogo i poshlo chto u Temuridov byla mongol'skaya krov', kosvenno imeet'sya i k vyshe perechislennym narodam etoj imperij!
Vyvod:Nado ubrat' ssory v storonu i ob'edenyat'sya kardoshlar(brat'ya)!
a togda bilo tolko khwaresm ne bil kazakhstana ne bil uzbekov o to tam pishit chto genzgiz khan bil kazahom eto lish provokatsya nazarbayeva i karamzina vesi mir znayet chto gengiz khan bil mongolom ot borjigin a barlas eto sami blizki tribe borjigina dnk pokazal chto tamerlan bil segodneshnii uzbek i polu mongol a ne kazah
@erkhesod Тамерлан конечно был тюрком. вот только скажи - кто разгромил его Империю и вытеснил Бабура в Индию? правильно - кочевые узбеки под предводительством Шейбани Хана - если узбеки вытеснили тимуридов - то как Тамерлна может быть узбеком?
@narikization Вы не правы. Они проповедают буддизм, и всегда проповедали. Ислам они не приняли. Монголы отличались жестокостью, и стоикостью. Навязывать ислам как другим народностям, им боялись.
Они растворились в тюркском море, сами стали тюрками, принявшими монголоидные черты.
Он не монгол. Воевал с Моголистаном, золотой ордой, которые на тот момент(стали с 1312 года 100% исламскими странами). (Монголам не навязывали ислам, они сами приняли веру поверженных. Чтоб приняли обязательно навязывать?)))) Я сам с Казахстана, это школьная программа и мне лучше знать.
@MrJudge076 Не пойму, в свих суждениях я хотел подчеркнуть что монголы не исповедают ислам, они исповедают буддизм. Чингиз хан был монголом, и исповедовал буддизм. Насколько я знаю, именно под его предводительством поставили на колени очень многие страны.А Тамерлан его потомок, помоему, и он не оиповедовал ислам.
@MrJudge076 Шынгыс не был буддистом, он не приверживался какой-то конкретной религии. Тамерлан не был чингизмдом, он был из рода Барлас - поэтому он принял титлу Амир (эмир) - а не хан, т.е. не был прямым потомком Шынгыс хана. Тамерлан был муслимом
@MrJudge076 Золотую орду возглавлял Чингиз Хан. Монгол, исповедовал он буддизм, но не как не ислам. А порабощенные им народы, в том числе и мусульмане, присоединились к нему от безвыходности.
@999yullan that was not Tamerlan. Tamerlan has died in 1405 when actually planning to invade the India in a great city of the time- Otrar. Whilst the Moghul Empire was founded in 1526 by Tamerlan's descendants banished from Central Asia by Shaybanids.
а в нижегородской области в гагинском районе, тоже были непомню где два холма, один большой другой маленький, и тоже есть легенда, будто когда иван грозный казань брать ходил, каждый воин ладонь земли ложил в одно место, а потом когда возвращались, каждый воин шлемом землю ложил, и вот первы холм, который ладонями сделан - большой, а второй - маленький.
Ну тут к дискусси можно добавить, что Тимур не был чингизидом, но был из тюрко-монгольского племени. Согласен что тюрки и турки в Турции это разный народ, но и монголы в средневековье были не монголами из нынешней Монголии. Сейчас в монголии 90% населения являются халха--монголами. Тогда как в Казахстане 50% казахов являются кереи, найманы и жалаиры. Вот вам и тюрко-монголы.
Не путайте фразу Тюрк и Турк это разные вещи, Тамерлан или Хромой Тимур родом из Ср. Азии тогда не было различий между казахами и узбеками были роды. Умер он в Южном Казахстане в городе Отрар. Это был великий завоеватель и признать честно беспощадный, он опустошил весь Кавказ. А Турки никакого отношения к нам не имеют ) тюрки это не турки, мы кочевники, Nomadi дети степей
после распада Османской империи перед жителями былой империи встал вопрос как себя называть Anadoly по названию полуострова либо Turk в честь древних предков ( турки это неверная русская транскрипция )-по итогоам всеобщего референдума решили называться тюрками ). либо на русском турками
автор фамилия вроде азиатская а фигню поришь в турции ни разу не был что ли , они там себя так и называют тюрки-сельджуки, казахи -кыпчаки, карачаев черкесов -ногайцами , и тд )
@kassenov ...может ты и кочевник, а я прямой потомок Амира Тимура (Тамирлана) и заявляю, что наш народ во все века были оседлые и занимались земледелием и ремеслом, так что никакого отношения к степи мы не имеем в отличае от тебя! И вообще...Самарканд исконно таджикский город, там первый язык таджикский , а уж потом остальные.Так что казах, не путай , никакого отношения Тамирлан к пустыни не имел)))! Надо было Тимуру завоевать и россию, жаль , что он пожалел этот народ, реально жаль!!!
ВСЕМ ДОЛБАЕБАМ АТЕНШИН Т.Е. ВНИМАНИЕ ШЫНГЫСХАН И ТЕМИРЛАН БЫЛИ КАЗАХАМИ ТАК ЧТО УБЕЙТЕСЬ ОБ ХУЙ . АНАЛИЗ ДНК ПРИ ВСКРЫТИИ МОГИЛ ТЕМИРЛАНА И СЫНА ШЫНГЫСХАНА ЖОЛШЫ ПОКАЗАЛ ЧТО ХАЛХА И ОЙРАТА СОСУТ ХУЙ В ЧУКОТКЕ . ОНИ КАЗАХИ. А ВЫ ВС Е КОТАКПАСЫ
@UralAlexandr ха ну ты выдал чингизхан был монголом)) а мы(казахи) появились в 15 веке когда окачевали из ханства Абулхаира, и создали Казахское ханство))) землю нам выделил Есен буга правитель Могулистана, для того чтоб использовать Каз. ханство против ойратов. А при Касым хане территория Каз.ханства расширилась довольно серьезно.
Video is beautiful and scoring is sincere if not to think what kind of person Tamerlan actually was. So I completely agree with animatr0nic. But maybe opponents are right too in their own way.
Ya gardas simdi bu bizmiyiz yahu ustundeki elbiseler benziyor ama rus dilini de bilmiyorumki.. :D (Yani ben senin yazıyı anladıgıma gore sende benimkini anlarsın diye yazdımda herhalde anlarsın yani umarım ya ingilizcemi yazsaydım.. :D )
its funny, how modern pop culture makes honorable heroes from savage butchers and wise men from tyrants, killers of whole nations, men, who built towers with cut off heads.
kind and wise tamerlane, mourning upon the untimely death of his good soldiers... how pathetic.
I understand you, but I want, that you knew. Timur has made much good things:he has helped Europeans to keep Christian religion, having broken Ottoman empire, he has helped Russian, having broken Golden Horde, thanks to him the Egyptian sultans have not grasped France.
animatr0nic, Timur might not value lives of people considered as enemies, but he surely valued lives of his soldiers - otherwise he wouldn't become one of the greatest military leaders in the history. And it is obviously pointless to judge medieval feudal lords by modern standards.
I am a chinese man . A long time "fight" with you on Youtube.I did learn some things good from you. . now no more scare stupid Mongolls again.Dmtau was very supprise to the chinese people today.
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Some time people likes Japan,China,Europes,. . . likes England!Why they are so scare Mongols .Those guys may be bad likes pigs. . or likes Lions.If all of them us the their minds.. together can kill all mongols likes you kill the fat rats
History still there!Three times Mongols were Invaded VN.Three times they were lost!The last time. .Mongols took order from VN to give freedom for whole world. They did lie.. so now is the times finish them up one for all..DHL1958 no more scare!
Nick DHL1958 told me: Mongols are shit in the pants when the Mongols Soldiers at the Battle with VN.Dmtau was think DHL1958 was right.DHL1958, the first chinese man brave when said that !
Well, but why? ) Timur was Turk by language and by lineage. Furthermore, by the beginning of 14th century, only the ruling dynasties were Mongolian in Central Asia (and even they already had no real power). The Mongols who settled there after conquests of 13th century were already assimilated by outnumbering Turkic population (just like in the Golden Horde, for instance). Of course, Timur had not much to do with Ottoman Turks, but that still doesn't make him a Mongol.)
Well, there is no ethnicity called "Turkic" - only "Turk" (and no matter does one means such ethnicities as Gokturks, Central Asian medieval Turks, or Anatolian Turks). A language may be "Turkic" (in contrast to "Turkish"), but not a person. :)
Dear azz1muth, different ethnicities with the ethnonym "Turk" (as an exonym or endonym) existed since VI century. Originally, it was an endonym of people we now call Göktürks; later all nomadic folks of modern Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were being called by this name (and called themselves this way after all); at last, it became a name of the Islamic population in Asia Minor, united by Ertugrul, Osman and their successors.
p.s. On the other hand, you may be partly right, since Turkic populations in Central and Minor Asia preferred to call themselves just by the name of ruling dinasty. So maybe it is more correct to call Timur "a Chagatai" after all.
We can dispute forever since there are different opinions and sources which result in different interpretation of terms "Turkish", "Turk" and "Turkic". So I agree to stop at "Chagatai" since Tamerlane started as a commander serving the Chagatai Khan :)
Timur claimed decent from genghis khan so this make his hims mongol too like babur.Look at the people of adijan. The chagatai khanate lost the west of central asia when timur rised up. but the eastern half remained under mongol rule until manchus came and took east turkistan.
He was turkicized by language and culture but hailed from the barlas tribe of mongol. He was an uzbek turk like babur.
Theres an huge percentage of mongol decendants in central asia.
The word "Uzbek" just didn't exist as an ethnonym in Central Asia of 14th century at the first place.
Furthermore, what are "Mongol descendants" and how can we count them? In this case we should accept Ivan the Terrible as a descendant of Vikings, for instance... but I doubt it is a constructive approach.
This is the genetic marker the most common in mongolians.Other haplogroups O3 4.5% and 5-10% haplogroup were brought by mongolian or other siberian turkic mongoloid.
Result shows, mongolian decendants in uzbek ranges from 30-35%, it could be over 40% if we count mtdna.
Timurlane remains were exhumed by soviets, showed he had partial mongoloid features.Look at the area where babur was born,andijisan, almost everyone there look like hybrids.
Sorry, genetics has nothing to do with both languages and ethnic consciousness. Furthermore, for some unknown reason you proceed from the assumption that before the Mongol invasion the haplogroup C3 didn't exist among the population of Transoxania.
And yes, physical anthropology has nothing to do with ethnicity and language as well.
You people are stupid coz you too lazy to learn your own history, the history of your ancestors and the history of your land, your country.
Tamerlane was not Turkish. The term Turkish appeared much later and describes people from and everything related to Turkey. One can say Tamerlane was Turkic but that is not totally true coz term Turkic is very wide and by the time when Tamerlane lived Turkic tribes were divided into many different tribes and lived from Balkan peninsula to Siberia.
So stop this idiocy calling people in Central Asia (or Turkestan, and this word is derived from Turkic, not Turkish) Turkish coz that sounds like Turkish Pan-Turkism ideas when Turkish thought (and most of them still think) that all other Turkic nations derived from Turkish and Turkish is "higher" than other Turkic nations.
So people be smarter and learn your history before posting such absurd comments and making me laugh and feel offended for my nation's history...
Yes you are right, a politics, a typing error. Tamerlan the truth indirectly concerns history of Russia. I was touched with words, about that that "You people are stupid coz you too lazy to learn your own history, the history of your ancestors and the history of your land, your country."
His father Taraghay was the head of the Barlas, a nomadic tribe in the steppes of Central Asia. They were remnants of the original Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan, many of whom had embraced Turkic or Iranian languages and customs.
Он не был турком, почитай дискуссию на этом thread'е и ли википедию, на крайний... На самом деле, его происхождение до сих пор оспаривается, потому все завоеватели в Азии обросли со временем легендами. Он, скорее, был смесью турка с монголом.
Alex, ne nado pouchat ludey chto im delat, esli ne prosyat, ostav svoi sovety pri sebe...
Ya prekrasno znau kem byl, kak znaet bolshee naselenie Centralnoy Azii, toest ludey predkami kotoryh Tamerlan pravil. Vozvrashayas s uspeshnogo pohoda na svoego byvshego druga Tokhtamysha, Tamerlan ostavil nadpis na bolshoy stelle v rayone Zapadnogo Kazakstana, tam on yasno dal ponyat kto on i chem zanimalsya po zhizni.
помню был когда-то Восточным Воином! помню Наших коней! помню Наши стрелы! помню как сметали врагов словно лавина!!! I remember that I was an Eastern Warrior! I remember Our horses! I remember Our arrows! I remember how we were sweeping enemies off as an avalanch!!!
who told you don`t guess read history there is a book about him it was written by his own secretary at that time who called Sharafuddin Ali Yazdiy "Zafarnama" it has many copies I think even in Russian! The other point he had big eyes and he didn`t look like this as in this movie he was different
by the way BARBARIAN Chengiz khan has hiden his tomb becouse he knew after his fucking death people will gather from all the world to shit on his tomb! this is the reason for his tomb place secret...
You idiots shut up it's obvious Tamerlane(Timur,Togoon Tumur) is Mongol, cause he's descendant of the Great Khan.And one can't be khan of Mongols without being one of the Golden Bloodline.
He isnt from family of Gengis khan so he cant be mongol. But this havent matter. Cuz mongols already turk. After to down of 2. Gokturks (Kutluk) so much turk tribes start to riding to west for new lands. And some tribes stay and make new guilds. Mongols was one of those guilds. Are u thought army of mongol empire mongols ? lol how can be ?. Mongols just a guild. Gengis khan make unite of turk guilds on central asia thats all. And Mongol guild ruled this union.
One fact Chingiz destroyed Samarkand levelled with ground but mostly Amir Temur use to build cities and he was practising Muslim when Chingiz is khan and killed and tortured Muslims
The original turks would have looked like mongolians or Koreans before they were mixed with different ethnics groups. The argument of what does modern turkish look like is pointless. We have now many different faces. Some still maintains mongoloid features like modern mongolians and Koreans. Others have that beautiful central asiatic feature like those countries in Central Asia. Yet others look more like Europeans like modern turkish, bulgarian, hungarian, and so on. We are very proud.
Listen to me, I am half Mongolian half Kazakh and YOU EAST ASIANS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND Mongolia's past,culture and gentic origins share far more with Central Asia than any other country in the world. Korean have nothing in comparison to Mongolia in terms of language, culture, language and origins.
I am only telling you this because people have to understand.- Central Asia is the nearest link to our past, nomadic lifestlye and genetic link(Facial features)
How could Tamerlane be Turkish? The Soviets exhumed his body and found it to be Mongoloid skull and appearance. Last time I checked Turkish people are Arab looking, not Mongoloid.
He was not turkish, he was turkik, who originated in central asia. The turkish from turkey are middle eastern, like arabs and africans, the turkik people of central asia are perso/mongolic, so you are right.
look Mongols are more asian then turk. alot more prof look at there eye. a character trait dat asians hav not turks. if they are moreturk descent they look more middle eastern. duh
That's because the Turks you are talking about are not the same as the ancient Turks. The ancient GokTurks were all Asiatic, just look at the statue of Kil Tegin, pure Asiatic person. The people in Turkey are just like the people in Hungary, imposters.
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"the oldest and highest nation" ??
Who thinks up this crap???
You small minded myopic fruitcakes need to get a freakin' LIFE. No one gives a flying crap about Turks or Mongols -- whatever the hell they looked like.
хороший ролик. вот фильм бы сделали!
max38995 1 week ago
каждая нация по своему велика, то что мы казахи, узбеки, кыргызы, татары, башкиры, турки, каракалпаки, уйгуры, азербайжанцы, туркмены, ногайцы, карачаевцы, аварцы и многие другие: все братья ТЮРКУТЫ. Это надо в первую очередь знать.
BatZai78 3 weeks ago
He was actually a mongol...but did not live like a nomad....but he did have asian features
coolmartcola 1 month ago
узбеки - великие, круче их только таджики
utututu234 1 month ago in playlist Всемирная история
timur is Mongolian. means "iron" in Mongolian language.
TheBattulga 2 months ago
@TheBattulga he wasn't mongolian at all, he was turkizied & iranized barlas... he didn't know mongolian
Askar9992 2 months ago
А про гитлера что так не сняли?
dedmopozzz 3 months ago
что значит не путать фразу турк или тюрк, это одно и то же )))))
karasainds 4 months ago
Давайте я всё расставлю на свои места и закончу Ваш спор : Тамерлан и Шейбани Хан - оба узбеки , как фризы и швабы - немцы . Всё , спор окончен !
Wessexify 5 months ago
@Wessexify Тамерлан был скорее тюрком монгольского происхождения. Шейбани хан откочевал от северных узбеков, которые вскоре стали называться казахами. Их обоих невозможно назвать узбеками в современном понимании.
aizhan1001 5 months ago
Da esli Turki vse obiedeniatsya, to mozhno eshe raz zavoevat mir :D
VsIFresh 7 months ago
Tamerlan byl istinnym turkom segodnyashnie nasledniki centra imperij ozbeki(turki) v pereferij kazahi,turkmeny,azerbadjancy,uygury, kirgizy(tozhe turki). No tak kak sredi ego zhyon byli mongoly on skazal chto ego deti budut "mugul-turkami" to est' turkami smeshannye s mongolami. Ot etogo i poshlo chto u Temuridov byla mongol'skaya krov', kosvenno imeet'sya i k vyshe perechislennym narodam etoj imperij!
Vyvod:Nado ubrat' ssory v storonu i ob'edenyat'sya kardoshlar(brat'ya)!
TuranliUzTurk 7 months ago
a togda bilo tolko khwaresm ne bil kazakhstana ne bil uzbekov o to tam pishit chto genzgiz khan bil kazahom eto lish provokatsya nazarbayeva i karamzina vesi mir znayet chto gengiz khan bil mongolom ot borjigin a barlas eto sami blizki tribe borjigina dnk pokazal chto tamerlan bil segodneshnii uzbek i polu mongol a ne kazah
erkhesod 7 months ago
@erkhesod Тамерлан конечно был тюрком. вот только скажи - кто разгромил его Империю и вытеснил Бабура в Индию? правильно - кочевые узбеки под предводительством Шейбани Хана - если узбеки вытеснили тимуридов - то как Тамерлна может быть узбеком?
MistaAlban 5 months ago
Темерлан боялся что хан золотой орды Токтамыш можеть обедениться с ак ордой и против на нево войнои идти
daniyar331313 8 months ago
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Амир Темур (Тамерлан) наш общий предок друзья. Великий полководец, который завоевал почти весь мир. Мы просто должны гордиться им!!!
REALIFEsmr 9 months ago
Амир Темур (Тамерлан) наш общий предок друзья. Великий полководец, который завоевал почти весь мир. Мы просто должны гордиться им!!!
REALIFEsmr 9 months ago
@REALIFEsmr у меня презрение к темури лангу и его потомкам)))
bejsimpatico 2 months ago
TİMURLENK
legendofuyi 9 months ago
и точно не был казахом, посмотрите его портреты, он не был косоглазым, натуральная узбекская рожа!!!
21Tamerlan 10 months ago
Тамерлан близко не был Киргизом, у него смешанная кровь Узбек и Монгол))) А так 2 великие нации
21Tamerlan 10 months ago
@21Tamerlan узбеки великая нация?!))))
sandukazkiz 10 months ago 9
@sandukazkiz узбеки считают и считаются "элитой" Средней Азии
F42m 2 months ago in playlist Банк Империал [Реклама]
@F42m все остальные в курсе, что они " великие"?
sandukazkiz 2 months ago
@sandukazkiz тут зависит от того, кто чем интересуется. Обычным русским людям нет дела до средней азии.
F42m 2 months ago
@F42m причем тут русские? я тюрок
sandukazkiz 2 months ago
@sandukazkiz я лишь знаю, что они себя таковыми считают. Да и я не говорил что они великие. А просто считают себя негласной элитой средней азии.
F42m 2 months ago
@F42m да пусть считают только вслух об этом другим не говорят)))))
sandukazkiz 2 months ago
@21Tamerlan не было там узбеков, только монголы.
MrJudge076 8 months ago
@MrJudge076
Монголы растворились среди тюрков. Они даже приняли их веру.
narikization 6 months ago
@narikization Вы не правы. Они проповедают буддизм, и всегда проповедали. Ислам они не приняли. Монголы отличались жестокостью, и стоикостью. Навязывать ислам как другим народностям, им боялись.
MrJudge076 6 months ago
@MrJudge076
Они растворились в тюркском море, сами стали тюрками, принявшими монголоидные черты.
Он не монгол. Воевал с Моголистаном, золотой ордой, которые на тот момент(стали с 1312 года 100% исламскими странами). (Монголам не навязывали ислам, они сами приняли веру поверженных. Чтоб приняли обязательно навязывать?)))) Я сам с Казахстана, это школьная программа и мне лучше знать.
narikization 6 months ago
@MrJudge076 Не пойму, в свих суждениях я хотел подчеркнуть что монголы не исповедают ислам, они исповедают буддизм. Чингиз хан был монголом, и исповедовал буддизм. Насколько я знаю, именно под его предводительством поставили на колени очень многие страны.А Тамерлан его потомок, помоему, и он не оиповедовал ислам.
MrJudge076 6 months ago
@MrJudge076 Шынгыс не был буддистом, он не приверживался какой-то конкретной религии. Тамерлан не был чингизмдом, он был из рода Барлас - поэтому он принял титлу Амир (эмир) - а не хан, т.е. не был прямым потомком Шынгыс хана. Тамерлан был муслимом
MistaAlban 5 months ago
@MrJudge076 Золотую орду возглавлял Чингиз Хан. Монгол, исповедовал он буддизм, но не как не ислам. А порабощенные им народы, в том числе и мусульмане, присоединились к нему от безвыходности.
MrJudge076 6 months ago
@MrJudge076 когда Алтын Рода (Улык Улус или Улус Джучи) появилась - Шынгыс хана не было в помине - Ода была основана Батy ханом - внуком Шынгысы
MistaAlban 5 months ago
Crap. I knew this was an ad… But, the photography and the costumes are beautiful.
Am I correct that Tamerlain founded the Mogul Empire? I understand that he adopted Islam which became a major religion in India.
999yullan 11 months ago
@999yullan yes, you are correct
IlshatAh 11 months ago
@999yullan that was not Tamerlan. Tamerlan has died in 1405 when actually planning to invade the India in a great city of the time- Otrar. Whilst the Moghul Empire was founded in 1526 by Tamerlan's descendants banished from Central Asia by Shaybanids.
debashir 11 months ago 2
@debashir "Tamerlan has died in 1405…The Moghul Empire was founded in 1526…"
Thank you… I stand corrected on this.
999yullan 11 months ago
@debashir Otrar has nothing to do with India - it is located in Kazakhstan. Tamerlan died when he was preparing an invasion into China
MistaAlban 5 months ago
@debashir Wrong. He died while he was going to invade Ming China, not India which was already conquered and properly sacked.
torobay 1 day ago
@999yullan nope, The Moghul Empire was founded by Babur - who was in fact a Timurid (a direct descendant of Tamerlan)
MistaAlban 5 months ago
Церковь, история появления церкви, история христианства
рекомендую посмотреть этот ролик:
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DimaDavid30 1 year ago
а в нижегородской области в гагинском районе, тоже были непомню где два холма, один большой другой маленький, и тоже есть легенда, будто когда иван грозный казань брать ходил, каждый воин ладонь земли ложил в одно место, а потом когда возвращались, каждый воин шлемом землю ложил, и вот первы холм, который ладонями сделан - большой, а второй - маленький.
vasya93gr 1 year ago
Ну тут к дискусси можно добавить, что Тимур не был чингизидом, но был из тюрко-монгольского племени. Согласен что тюрки и турки в Турции это разный народ, но и монголы в средневековье были не монголами из нынешней Монголии. Сейчас в монголии 90% населения являются халха--монголами. Тогда как в Казахстане 50% казахов являются кереи, найманы и жалаиры. Вот вам и тюрко-монголы.
Shaitantoo 1 year ago
Не путайте фразу Тюрк и Турк это разные вещи, Тамерлан или Хромой Тимур родом из Ср. Азии тогда не было различий между казахами и узбеками были роды. Умер он в Южном Казахстане в городе Отрар. Это был великий завоеватель и признать честно беспощадный, он опустошил весь Кавказ. А Турки никакого отношения к нам не имеют ) тюрки это не турки, мы кочевники, Nomadi дети степей
kassenov 1 year ago 15
@kassenov
после распада Османской империи перед жителями былой империи встал вопрос как себя называть Anadoly по названию полуострова либо Turk в честь древних предков ( турки это неверная русская транскрипция )-по итогоам всеобщего референдума решили называться тюрками ). либо на русском турками
автор фамилия вроде азиатская а фигню поришь в турции ни разу не был что ли , они там себя так и называют тюрки-сельджуки, казахи -кыпчаки, карачаев черкесов -ногайцами , и тд )
karasainds 4 months ago
@kassenov ...может ты и кочевник, а я прямой потомок Амира Тимура (Тамирлана) и заявляю, что наш народ во все века были оседлые и занимались земледелием и ремеслом, так что никакого отношения к степи мы не имеем в отличае от тебя! И вообще...Самарканд исконно таджикский город, там первый язык таджикский , а уж потом остальные.Так что казах, не путай , никакого отношения Тамирлан к пустыни не имел)))! Надо было Тимуру завоевать и россию, жаль , что он пожалел этот народ, реально жаль!!!
spitamensogd 1 week ago
@spitamensogd сдохни, а?
diemydyrling 1 day ago
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MrMihanov 1 year ago
@MrMihanov НЕ НУЖНО ТАК ГРУБО ВЕДЬ ЖИВЕМ ВСЕ НА 1 ПЛАНЕТЕ )))
ALFIYA55510 1 year ago
Бекмамбетов молодец!
kazakamerican 1 year ago
тамерлан,чингисхан,батухан,могитхан !!!
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bugagaification 1 year ago
Я же помню эту рекламу. подскажите какой год
MrShamsky 1 year ago
@MrShamsky 1995-1996
ibrynskikh 1 year ago
Вот херня.... Какое отношение к банку ), имеет эта реклама?
MrRatnikoff 1 year ago
@MrRatnikoff Потому что банк "Имперский" ну или пытается им быть
clibanoforos 1 year ago
Тамерлан был из тюркской племени Барласов и золотую арду Тохтамыша его войска прикончили окончательно.
voin42 1 year ago
судя по количеству камней оставшихся, немного мамбетов "ИСТИННЫХ потомков Темерлана ага?
Apachi7096 1 year ago
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Apachi7096 1 year ago
@uuganmongolnatioin Тамерлан узбек
MODERATORish 1 year ago
Чингисхан был казахом; Тамерлан либо узбек, либо кыргыз. Монголы к золотой орде никакого отношения не имеют.
UralAlexandr 1 year ago
@UralAlexandr ха ну ты выдал чингизхан был монголом)) а мы(казахи) появились в 15 веке когда окачевали из ханства Абулхаира, и создали Казахское ханство))) землю нам выделил Есен буга правитель Могулистана, для того чтоб использовать Каз. ханство против ойратов. А при Касым хане территория Каз.ханства расширилась довольно серьезно.
MODERATORish 1 year ago
@MODERATORish Ну тогда уйгуром - но уж точно не монголом...
UralAlexandr 1 year ago
@UralAlexandr
hahaha kazak?? he Chinggis khan was pure mongol! or read histroy
Bultuush1 1 year ago
TAMERLAN eto ne pravilno TEYMUR (imya) LEND (perevoditsya xramoy ), Teymur bil xramoy, po etomu eqo nazivale Teymur-lend
jazdesignstudio 1 year ago
на тамерлана даже непохож, лицо как у гавна мамонта
novonet23 1 year ago
Актёр киргиз, снимался еще в фильме "Потомки белого Барса".
Baatyr840 1 year ago
Актёр киргиз, снимался еще в фильме Кожожаш.
Baatyr840 1 year ago
К Тамерлану Бекмамбетов добрее, чем к Ивану Грозному. Кровь подсказала.
snigir1917 2 years ago
No matter to which nationality he belonged, but he was a GREAT MAN.
goldenpark2009 2 years ago
Video is beautiful and scoring is sincere if not to think what kind of person Tamerlan actually was. So I completely agree with animatr0nic. But maybe opponents are right too in their own way.
HomoVagantis 2 years ago
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"Nikogda ne slishal chto Tamerlane plakal. "
Да уж не над такими камнями. Я зато слышал, что он насыпал гору черепов, отрубив головы жителям взятого города - вот это было...
Pilum1000 2 years ago
Nikogda ne slishal chto Tamerlane plakal.
Atabek1992 2 years ago
"Ya te' pokazhu kto tut numba one. Ya prishel v igru budto Tamerlan."
miguelin97223 2 years ago
i can't understand cyrillic and no russian, i'm a AZERI, so i'm a TURK,, men türkpin, esen bolsyn turuktere, kayda bolsanda , sen turuksin
uly kök tenri türüktü qorgasyn, men turkistanimdi sagindim =(
TURAN UNION
AZER1FIGHTER 2 years ago
Ya gardas simdi bu bizmiyiz yahu ustundeki elbiseler benziyor ama rus dilini de bilmiyorumki.. :D (Yani ben senin yazıyı anladıgıma gore sende benimkini anlarsın diye yazdımda herhalde anlarsın yani umarım ya ingilizcemi yazsaydım.. :D )
HANtrk 2 years ago
its funny, how modern pop culture makes honorable heroes from savage butchers and wise men from tyrants, killers of whole nations, men, who built towers with cut off heads.
kind and wise tamerlane, mourning upon the untimely death of his good soldiers... how pathetic.
animatr0nic 2 years ago 2
I understand you, but I want, that you knew. Timur has made much good things:he has helped Europeans to keep Christian religion, having broken Ottoman empire, he has helped Russian, having broken Golden Horde, thanks to him the Egyptian sultans have not grasped France.
Timur308ify 2 years ago
animatr0nic, Timur might not value lives of people considered as enemies, but he surely valued lives of his soldiers - otherwise he wouldn't become one of the greatest military leaders in the history. And it is obviously pointless to judge medieval feudal lords by modern standards.
Alexey6759 2 years ago
Nick CanBobodang one time wrote to me:
I am a chinese man . A long time "fight" with you on Youtube.I did learn some things good from you. . now no more scare stupid Mongolls again.Dmtau was very supprise to the chinese people today.
dmtau 2 years ago
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Some time people likes Japan,China,Europes,. . . likes England!Why they are so scare Mongols .Those guys may be bad likes pigs. . or likes Lions.If all of them us the their minds.. together can kill all mongols likes you kill the fat rats
dmtau 2 years ago
History still there!Three times Mongols were Invaded VN.Three times they were lost!The last time. .Mongols took order from VN to give freedom for whole world. They did lie.. so now is the times finish them up one for all..DHL1958 no more scare!
dmtau 2 years ago
Nick DHL1958 told me: Mongols are shit in the pants when the Mongols Soldiers at the Battle with VN.Dmtau was think DHL1958 was right.DHL1958, the first chinese man brave when said that !
dmtau 2 years ago
ну ну, а про то, что банки грабят целые народы не сказали
DOTU1KOB 2 years ago 32
he is uzbek
benomjkee 2 years ago
benomjkee, well, in 14th century the modern Uzbek folk still didn't exist. So it is more correct to call Timur a Central Asian Turk.
Alexey6759 2 years ago 3
@Alexey6759 CENTRAL ASIAN MONGOL ,,it would be more correct,
papcyrill 2 years ago
2papcyrill
Well, but why? ) Timur was Turk by language and by lineage. Furthermore, by the beginning of 14th century, only the ruling dynasties were Mongolian in Central Asia (and even they already had no real power). The Mongols who settled there after conquests of 13th century were already assimilated by outnumbering Turkic population (just like in the Golden Horde, for instance). Of course, Timur had not much to do with Ottoman Turks, but that still doesn't make him a Mongol.)
Alexey6759 2 years ago
He was not Turk but Turkic ;)
azz1muth 2 years ago
Well, there is no ethnicity called "Turkic" - only "Turk" (and no matter does one means such ethnicities as Gokturks, Central Asian medieval Turks, or Anatolian Turks). A language may be "Turkic" (in contrast to "Turkish"), but not a person. :)
Alexey6759 2 years ago
You see, the most important thing that you say "there is no". So there WAS no ethnicity called "Turkish" in times when Tamerlane lived ;)
azz1muth 2 years ago
Dear azz1muth, different ethnicities with the ethnonym "Turk" (as an exonym or endonym) existed since VI century. Originally, it was an endonym of people we now call Göktürks; later all nomadic folks of modern Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were being called by this name (and called themselves this way after all); at last, it became a name of the Islamic population in Asia Minor, united by Ertugrul, Osman and their successors.
Alexey6759 2 years ago
p.s. On the other hand, you may be partly right, since Turkic populations in Central and Minor Asia preferred to call themselves just by the name of ruling dinasty. So maybe it is more correct to call Timur "a Chagatai" after all.
Alexey6759 2 years ago
We can dispute forever since there are different opinions and sources which result in different interpretation of terms "Turkish", "Turk" and "Turkic". So I agree to stop at "Chagatai" since Tamerlane started as a commander serving the Chagatai Khan :)
azz1muth 2 years ago
Timur claimed decent from genghis khan so this make his hims mongol too like babur.Look at the people of adijan. The chagatai khanate lost the west of central asia when timur rised up. but the eastern half remained under mongol rule until manchus came and took east turkistan.
He was turkicized by language and culture but hailed from the barlas tribe of mongol. He was an uzbek turk like babur.
Theres an huge percentage of mongol decendants in central asia.
HybridsAsianWorld 2 years ago
The word "Uzbek" just didn't exist as an ethnonym in Central Asia of 14th century at the first place.
Furthermore, what are "Mongol descendants" and how can we count them? In this case we should accept Ivan the Terrible as a descendant of Vikings, for instance... but I doubt it is a constructive approach.
Alexey6759 2 years ago
Haplogroup C3 is in 20% of uzbekistan
This is the genetic marker the most common in mongolians.Other haplogroups O3 4.5% and 5-10% haplogroup were brought by mongolian or other siberian turkic mongoloid.
Result shows, mongolian decendants in uzbek ranges from 30-35%, it could be over 40% if we count mtdna.
Timurlane remains were exhumed by soviets, showed he had partial mongoloid features.Look at the area where babur was born,andijisan, almost everyone there look like hybrids.
HybridsAsianWorld 2 years ago
2HybridsAsianWorld
Sorry, genetics has nothing to do with both languages and ethnic consciousness. Furthermore, for some unknown reason you proceed from the assumption that before the Mongol invasion the haplogroup C3 didn't exist among the population of Transoxania.
And yes, physical anthropology has nothing to do with ethnicity and language as well.
Alexey6759 2 years ago
You people are stupid coz you too lazy to learn your own history, the history of your ancestors and the history of your land, your country.
Tamerlane was not Turkish. The term Turkish appeared much later and describes people from and everything related to Turkey. One can say Tamerlane was Turkic but that is not totally true coz term Turkic is very wide and by the time when Tamerlane lived Turkic tribes were divided into many different tribes and lived from Balkan peninsula to Siberia.
azz1muth 2 years ago
So stop this idiocy calling people in Central Asia (or Turkestan, and this word is derived from Turkic, not Turkish) Turkish coz that sounds like Turkish Pan-Turkism ideas when Turkish thought (and most of them still think) that all other Turkic nations derived from Turkish and Turkish is "higher" than other Turkic nations.
So people be smarter and learn your history before posting such absurd comments and making me laugh and feel offended for my nation's history...
azz1muth 2 years ago 2
You think you know history of Russia, and you know that half of facts historical has been copied with a view of a policy.
Naxernikonyvsezanyat 2 years ago
I guess by policy you meant politics. And yes I know that. But what all I wrote before has to do with the history of Russia???
azz1muth 2 years ago
Yes you are right, a politics, a typing error. Tamerlan the truth indirectly concerns history of Russia. I was touched with words, about that that "You people are stupid coz you too lazy to learn your own history, the history of your ancestors and the history of your land, your country."
Naxernikonyvsezanyat 2 years ago
Sorry if that confused you but my comment was addressed to those older comment writers who were saying that Tamerlane is a Turkish :)
azz1muth 2 years ago
The great video...
TheRussian1989 2 years ago
Аж за душу берет. Все рекламы Империала - просто шедевры. Сейчас таких не делают.
1JIup 2 years ago 3
@1JIup fotki.yandex.ru/users/expert684/view/516415/?page=2
Вот там историческое место.
expert684 1 year ago
Koskoce Atamizi Timuru
Banka Reklamimi yaptiniz?
TurkmanPower 2 years ago
Как я знаю, русские воины перед битвой отдавали по монете, а после битвы забирали.
Так становилось известно число потерь
Sahnovec 2 years ago
Помню эту рекламу с детства :)
TinnaRisten 2 years ago 6
Круть крутовская!
Все тепершние рекламы отстой
phobbb 2 years ago 56
и был огонь, и была победа но просто они забыли снять это на видео..))
SADYKOV87 1 year ago
@phobbb дык Бекмамбетов снимал.
SonyVideoBest 9 months ago
he was from uzbekistan a turkish clan
EcCctoplasma 2 years ago
His father Taraghay was the head of the Barlas, a nomadic tribe in the steppes of Central Asia. They were remnants of the original Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan, many of whom had embraced Turkic or Iranian languages and customs.
polos86 2 years ago
he was from uzbekistan a turkish clan
neonagasaki 2 years ago
kstati atot obychyai byl zamechen sredi Kazahov kogda te uhodili na voinu(2 mirovoi) ob atom mne raskazyval moi dedushka!!!
DJALAIR 2 years ago
no acter Kazakh,a rezhiser tozhe Kazakh Bekmambetov!!!ALGA KAZAKTAR!!!
DJALAIR 3 years ago
a kto byl tamirlan? Uzbek? Kypchak?kirgiz?
RussianBoxer84 3 years ago
On byl turkom, kak i vse kypchaki, karluki i oghuzy.
debashir 3 years ago
Он не был турком, почитай дискуссию на этом thread'е и ли википедию, на крайний... На самом деле, его происхождение до сих пор оспаривается, потому все завоеватели в Азии обросли со временем легендами. Он, скорее, был смесью турка с монголом.
alex9044 3 years ago
Alex, ne nado pouchat ludey chto im delat, esli ne prosyat, ostav svoi sovety pri sebe...
Ya prekrasno znau kem byl, kak znaet bolshee naselenie Centralnoy Azii, toest ludey predkami kotoryh Tamerlan pravil. Vozvrashayas s uspeshnogo pohoda na svoego byvshego druga Tokhtamysha, Tamerlan ostavil nadpis na bolshoy stelle v rayone Zapadnogo Kazakstana, tam on yasno dal ponyat kto on i chem zanimalsya po zhizni.
debashir 3 years ago
chto znachet turk... turki v turcii jivut.
on byl T'iurk. esli chto.
ya tashkentskiy esli chesno. tolko ne znau pamyatnik u nas tam ego bil?
RussianBoxer84 3 years ago
Kazaki i ozbeki- eto turki. Kak pisal istorik Bartold,l vsyo eto tureckie narodnosti. I Turkistan nazvan tak potomuchto v nyom zhivut turki.
debashir 2 years ago
spasibo.
RussianBoxer84 2 years ago
I tebe spasibo, za ponimanie..
debashir 2 years ago
Не турецкие а тюркские. Не путайте, это разные понятия :)
azz1muth 2 years ago 3
timurlane the turk
neonagasaki 2 years ago
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PaCapack 3 years ago
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egakz 3 years ago
Интересная такая реклама...
ljuc 3 years ago
TÜRK IRKI SAGOLSUN
BARTUG1071 3 years ago
Great commercial. Art.
vochinin 3 years ago 2
Tamerlan was from mongol tribe Barlas.
Son of Tragai Bek-mongol chieftain
solongo92 3 years ago 3
who told you don`t guess read history there is a book about him it was written by his own secretary at that time who called Sharafuddin Ali Yazdiy "Zafarnama" it has many copies I think even in Russian! The other point he had big eyes and he didn`t look like this as in this movie he was different
Ustobobo 3 years ago
where you read it. Please give me your reference. You seems very clever?
Ustobobo 3 years ago
by the way BARBARIAN Chengiz khan has hiden his tomb becouse he knew after his fucking death people will gather from all the world to shit on his tomb! this is the reason for his tomb place secret...
shadianeh 3 years ago
Are you muslim?
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killerboy8980 3 years ago
You idiots shut up it's obvious Tamerlane(Timur,Togoon Tumur) is Mongol, cause he's descendant of the Great Khan.And one can't be khan of Mongols without being one of the Golden Bloodline.
FreeeeS 3 years ago
He isnt from family of Gengis khan so he cant be mongol. But this havent matter. Cuz mongols already turk. After to down of 2. Gokturks (Kutluk) so much turk tribes start to riding to west for new lands. And some tribes stay and make new guilds. Mongols was one of those guilds. Are u thought army of mongol empire mongols ? lol how can be ?. Mongols just a guild. Gengis khan make unite of turk guilds on central asia thats all. And Mongol guild ruled this union.
Daldayuvakuranmanda 3 years ago
One fact Chingiz destroyed Samarkand levelled with ground but mostly Amir Temur use to build cities and he was practising Muslim when Chingiz is khan and killed and tortured Muslims
Ustobobo 3 years ago
The original turks would have looked like mongolians or Koreans before they were mixed with different ethnics groups. The argument of what does modern turkish look like is pointless. We have now many different faces. Some still maintains mongoloid features like modern mongolians and Koreans. Others have that beautiful central asiatic feature like those countries in Central Asia. Yet others look more like Europeans like modern turkish, bulgarian, hungarian, and so on. We are very proud.
bangoopong 3 years ago
Listen to me, I am half Mongolian half Kazakh and YOU EAST ASIANS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND Mongolia's past,culture and gentic origins share far more with Central Asia than any other country in the world. Korean have nothing in comparison to Mongolia in terms of language, culture, language and origins.
I am only telling you this because people have to understand.- Central Asia is the nearest link to our past, nomadic lifestlye and genetic link(Facial features)
MongolTiger 3 years ago 3
yank65
who is paying you for talkin this shit ?
Or do you live on the moon ?
Turks do not look like arab but for you ignoramus user.
There is a saying Turks have 1000 different faces but 1 turkish soul. The world has as saying for the Yanks , all the gear but no idea !
TEMUR70 3 years ago
ne de olsa turk kanı var
mudelisamet 3 years ago
What ethnicity is the person playing Timur in this video? He looks very Mongolian, but he could be a Kazak or Kyrgyz.
yanks65 3 years ago
He is decendant of Chingiz Khan the golden Bloodline you fag!He is Togoon Tumur Khan not Tamerlane like the Franks say.Khan Steel Kettle
FreeeeS 3 years ago
Please read books the one who opposed and killed decendants of Chingiz Khan in Central Asia is his uncle from his mother side
Ustobobo 3 years ago
the actor is kazak, the director of this commercial is also a kazak
debashir 3 years ago
Thanks
yanks65 3 years ago
turks may look like europeans or even slavic
olenkarr 3 years ago
That is bullshit!
matia1919 3 years ago
turks are, and always will look like turks.
KrasnayaKapella 3 years ago
How could Tamerlane be Turkish? The Soviets exhumed his body and found it to be Mongoloid skull and appearance. Last time I checked Turkish people are Arab looking, not Mongoloid.
yanks65 3 years ago
He was not turkish, he was turkik, who originated in central asia. The turkish from turkey are middle eastern, like arabs and africans, the turkik people of central asia are perso/mongolic, so you are right.
KrasnayaKapella 3 years ago
look Mongols are more asian then turk. alot more prof look at there eye. a character trait dat asians hav not turks. if they are moreturk descent they look more middle eastern. duh
jakeGOW360 4 years ago
That's because the Turks you are talking about are not the same as the ancient Turks. The ancient GokTurks were all Asiatic, just look at the statue of Kil Tegin, pure Asiatic person. The people in Turkey are just like the people in Hungary, imposters.
yanks65 3 years ago
We are the possessors of Turan and Emir of Turkestan
We are real Turks that are the sons of Turks
We are the members of the oldest and the highest nation
We are the leaders of Turks
Amir Temur - Institutes of Temur
ManyakYakisiklii 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"the oldest and highest nation" ??
Who thinks up this crap???
You small minded myopic fruitcakes need to get a freakin' LIFE. No one gives a flying crap about Turks or Mongols -- whatever the hell they looked like.
Get the chip off your shoulders.
Go do something useful with your lives.
Freakin' losers. Shesh.
oceanbluesky 2 years ago
It's amazing how many people are living in the past...trying to move forward facing backwards.
Exactly NOT what Temugin did.
oceanbluesky 2 years ago
What this video has to do with Temugin?? It's about Tamerlane!
azz1muth 2 years ago