New World Order Update 6/30/09 cap and trade takeover bill

[dubze]

Dude- we need to start buying supplies- if you know what i mean- I'm taking a few demons with me

[interstategar]

As long as you have a tiny few, making laws, and passing legislation, the potential for corruption is inevitable. The answer is the people voting for everything Congress, and State legislatures do now. Its not "New World Order, this is Old World Corruption that has been going on since the beginning gov't since ancient times. The problem now is getting the current reps to vote for themselves losing this stranglehold power to change the Constitution.

[psxwarrior]

ALL RIGHT!!! You go Alex Jones.

[BLBMZ]

I also heard that there is water restricitons in this bill too, if this bill passes lots of Americans will lose everything to TAXES!

[BendoverBernanke]

Israeli Occupation Forces have kidnapped 21 Human rights workers

aboard the Free Gaza boat, Spirit of Humanity. Amongst those

kidnapped were Nobel laureate Mairead Maguire and former U.S.

Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney

[cwmillerrn]

Man, I hope you are wrong about governors being irrelevant.. One of the main thrusts of the Ron Paul Liberty movement is to take back the government from the bottom up, starting at the local level.

[BendoverBernanke]

You are the best channel for NWO updates. Keep them coming.

[Travinyle1]

Thanks for watching and commenting, im trying to get more focused with my videos

[TiredOldFart]

Who profits? do a search for "The Great American Bubble Machine". That article puts the pieces together.

[AR15Truther]

Thanks trav NWO update ,,love it

More nails in the coffen

Obama promised no new taxes on people making under 200,00 a year

well thats going to get blowen to hell quick

We'll be a 3rd world country quick now

lol they oppose it, but still vote for it,

talk about your strong willed leaders

these pansies are made of rubber

get a rope

[1scubaman]

If our utilities double we will be out of business my friend we can not pass that on

[nasanction]

You know the Senate fucks will pass it too...

It's time....

Peace Travis!

[Kittenkattan]

It is time to leave this "State:" and make smaller micro economies. Make moves out of the system. I am doing that.

Peace.

John.

[crypter27]

We have to stop it in the senate!

[TiredOldFart]

They passed the second bailout despite overwhelming public disapproval. They are on a mission to destroy our country. How will you stop it in the senate when the public doesn't matter?

[crypter27]

We have power,even if they do try,to put this in to place we must resist it by any means. We got,& as for my self I want to move,to the republic of Lakota!

[NewBlueSon]

Yea theyve kept everyone fairly well distracted. Not ONE person i know in person knew they were voting on the cap and trade, that is not until i brought it up, but of course everyone knew MJ kicked the bucket. I think once this bill (if passed) is put into action people will definatly wake up. You know, once their cost of living is doubled. Doubled to reduce CO2 that has nothing to do with global warming. We shall see. All we can do at this point is keep trying to get the word out. Peace.

[DrugstoreDiva]

i have a question and i'm not trying to antagonize but i'm just not completely sold on NWO. why would they let this info get out? i have theories on how it could benefit them to let it get out but...

[GabrielsVoice]

dont waste your time talking to z200a. everyone knows what he is. funny how they always pass by just a few votes innit. buncha bullshit

[Z200a]

* dont waste your time talking to z200a. everyone knows what he is. *

There's an important lesson you should learn. When you subject your ideas and opinions to debate and discussion, it gives you a chance to refine and improve them. If everyone you talk to is on your side, you're not going to be challenged to make better and more accurate arguments. You're doing yourself a big disservice by refusing to subject your ideas to challenge and debate.

[Z200a]

Furthermore, GabrielsVoice, you can't afford to insulate yourself inside a bubble and refuse to engage people who disagree with you.

Why? Because your brand of far-right ultraconservative extremism is only embraced by about 1.5% of the American population. If your political ambitions are ever going to be realized, you are going to have to find a way to appeal to the 98.5% of Americans who hold other views. And you can't do that by refusing to engage the opposition.

[Travinyle1]

"far right ultra conservative extremism" is no what this is about man. SEE YOUR MISSING everything because your still locked into your left team vs. right team mentallity. Most Americans want freedom and liberty and both parties are destroying that wake up man.

[Z200a]

* Most Americans want freedom and liberty and both parties are destroying that *

Agreed.

Still, left and right have actual meaning. They are valid terms. How else do you describe people who have different opinions on subjects like gay marriage or the death penalty or abortion or torture policy or taxes or whatever? What's wrong with saying one position is left and one position is right? We need SOME way to reflect the differences between people on these issues.

Gotta go back to work.

[blueprophet9]

How about 'do' or 'don't'? Why bother to follow corrupt parties that are in reality a synthesis? The actual argument is FREEDOM to do or don't...that's it, that's man.

[Michigansnowpony]

I would disagree that left and right have actual meaning -- people today often hold views that are neither one or the other but a blend of the two. And what Bush and those Republicans before him did, the present democratic administration is continuing -- just at a much faster rate. I see no difference between the two parties -- both are equally corrupt and out-of-control. I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat, I'm simply an American.

[GabrielsVoice]

i've seen enough of your comments to know that you're one of the roll over pussies that will just lie down for the nwo. i'm WYTERABBYT. i've had your wussie comments on my videos too. never seen a video you made. and i bet you're about half my age, so don't talk to me about learning lessons. i've probably forgotten more than you will ever learn.

[desire4liberation]

i wonder when these so called "representatives" will come to realize that they are considered chattel along with the rest of us. it seems their temporary benefits are more important to them than doing what is right for mankind...

do they not care for their children or grandchildren? or are they too full of selfish greed which blinds them to the reality of our future?

either way... they sold their souls to the detriment of mankind....

can't imagine a good outcome for them...

[Z200a]

* it seems their temporary benefits are more important to them than doing what is right for mankind *

It's impossible for you to imagine that anyone honestly believes that the bill will do good things for America, is that right?

As far as you are concerned, everyone with a different point of view is acting out of malice and evil motives .... right?

You can't imagine any good faith disagreement with your far-right point of view, correct?

[Travinyle1]

mankind? so you are dumb enough to believe global warming is caused by man and not the sun? LOL

[Z200a]

Travis,

I didn't use the word "mankind." That was desire4liberation. I was just quoting him.

But yes, I do believe, along with the overwhelming majority of scientists, that global warming is caused by human activity. I'm not a scientist, so I can't personally vouch for it, but I do tend to believe the experts, and not the energy industry's paid shills.

[Travinyle1]

LMAO

[Z200a]

Travis,

As far as your calling me "dumb" and a "fool" and all the other personal attacks. I never direct these kinds of insults at you. It's pretty clear you hate me, but I want you to know I don't hate you. I applaud your efforts to do what you think is good for America, and I applaud your talents -- you're good at it. I also applaud the fact that you are one of the only ultraconservatives willing to allow free speech on your videos. I just wish you didn't have to hate people who disagree.

[Z200a]

And with that, my lunch hour is over and I'm going back to work. Have a good day, Travis.

[Travinyle1]

you just make accusations about my statements you cant back up. Obama ran on no lobbyist in his cabinet. He broke that promise and its more than 3 but ill break that down for you later. In that speech he said he was going to "stop their control over Washington", well they just spent the most money ever to get a bill passed so i would call that a lie, you can get cute with denying it all you want but everyone knows but you, denial is tough i know man, i know he tricked you man just get over it

[lightleague]

Z200a... still trolling around and incapable of making any videos for yourself I see. You're a coward and a phony. Put your face out there to make your point. Stand up, out of the shadows. I have no respect for you.

[Z200a]

I probably should make videos. It's an obvious non-sequiter to say that people who don't make videos are cowards, but you don't even take that suggestion seriously yourself, so there's no reason why I should.

As for your respect, I didn't expect to have it, and don't need it. I wish you could engage on the ideas instead of resorting to childish personal attacks. If you could intelligently defend your views, then I would have respect for you -- even if I disagreed with everything you said.

[lightleague]

This has been your modus operandi for at least a year now. "Non-sequiter", that's your excuse again. The point is you remain in your anonymous little den. There's nothing childish about taking a public stand on an issue. Don't discredit my point. You would understand what I'm saying the moment you sent out your own video, with your own face... so your words would be equated with a real human being. Your portrait is Jesus holding a dinosaur, great. You're a coward and a shadow of a man.

[psxwarrior]

Do you not see that Obama doesn't give a rip about you or the country? You are fighting with the wrong people. You are fighting for the globalist nwo scumbags.

[psxwarrior]

Please leave Travis and the rest of us alone, troll. If you don't like the video, just don't watch it. Go back to watching american idol and football, but leave the rest of us truthers alone.

[sweepinsc]

Are these the same "experts" that are saying that climate change is shrinking sheep? I say the sheep are growing.....sheeple that is...baaaa..LOL!

[desire4liberation]

i think global warming is propaganda (although i think industry,war,haarp,chemicals,e­ct are destroying the earth by polluting soil,air,water)

[desire4liberation]

i do not think the supporters of this bill are well informed

watch?v=aL9FkkDhOwg

if so, i wonder why they would choose to support it

this is not about different points of view.... rather truth vs lies

it behooves us ALL to know what propaganda we are facing and stop attacking each other so that we may protect our rights as human's, and provide a future free from slavery

if you are still fighting left vs right issue..... you have much catching up to do

regards.... kimi

[Z200a]

Travis,

You would be more persuasive if you made factual statements, instead of fictional statements. Obama never said he was going to eliminate lobbyists from Washington DC, which is why you are unable to provide a single source to back up your claim that he did. Obama said he would not hire former lobbyists to work inside his administration, and that he would restore regulations that prevent former government employees from becoming lobbyists for 2 years after they leave their gov. jobs.

[Z200a]

* Obama said he would not hire former lobbyists to work inside his administration *

Yes, Obama did break this promise with a couple of his appointments. But your education and informed viewers will realize you are misrepresenting Obama's promise when you claim that Obama said he was going to eliminate all lobbying in Washington. When people hear you make false statements, they lose faith in you as a source of information.

Stay accurate if you want to reach people.

[Travinyle1]

Ah you show your face again after i called you out for saying there was no evidence Barney Frank was intervening to keep open "certain" auto dealships, you never came around after i posted the mainstream news article backing up my "false claim" well your back for more lessons i see. LOL

[Z200a]

I don't remember that response, Travis, but just so you know, I don't respond to every comment on every video. You are the same way: I've directed any number of comments at you over the months that you have ignored. I don't blame you for being a coward. I just assume you have a life and have other things to do, and can't respond to every single comment someone directs at you. Any reasonable person would expect the same of me.

[GabrielsVoice]

everybody knows you for the gov shill that you are. you have no cover so why don't you piss off like a good little sheep. baaaaa

[Travinyle1]

Its in the comments section of my last new world order update video.you said it was a false claim,man you really need to wake up from your left paradigm man

[Travinyle1]

You would be more persuasive if you ever proved me wrong fool. Links now in more info section to the videos of Obama saying what i said. Get real moron. Now go run away for another month. Since youve been schooled again

[Z200a]

Thanks for the links, Travis. They prove the point I made in my comments above -- that Obama's promise was to not hire lobbyists to work in his own administration. Obama never said he was going to outlaw lobbying -- he said he was not going to hire lobbyists. In your video (above) you repeatedly claim Obama violated this promise because there lobbyists continue to lobby the US Congress.

Let's see you try to back up the claim you make in this video that Obama said he would end all lobbying.

[Travinyle1]

So your agruing that he lied about hiring them and did that? LMAO, dude your an idiot the speech is in the more info section he said lobbyist wouldnt have the control they used to have, they now have the most in history, scurry along troll

[Z200a]

* So your agruing that he lied about hiring them and did that *

Yes, exactly - read the comments I posted above. Obama promised not to hire lobbyists in his administration, and he has kept the promise with 3 excpeptions. You can call that "lying" if you want, but it's a big improvement over the past when administrations were filled with hundreds of lobbyists.

Obama never promised he was going to eliminate lobbying as an institution, which makes your remarks on the subject inaccurate.

[Travinyle1]

what is the defenition of "is" LOL, dude nice try

[Z200a]

Just so you know, the lobbyists who are lobbying Congress do not work for Obama. He doesn't control them, and never promised to ban them.

Obama's promise was to NOT HIRE LOBBYISTS to work in his administration. There's a big difference between what Obama promised and what you are claiming he promised.

Why can't you just admit you made a mistake and move on? It's not a big deal. We all make mistakes, and the benefit of free speech is that other people can keep us honest.

[Travinyle1]

Theres 8more you forgot listed over there now. Whos making false statements??

[rexoid]

Thanks Travis

[crasster1]

It's hopeless. Get ready. I'm not kidding.