There is a very large part of me which has just enjoyed the chocolate cake and coffee so much that I don't really care if another palestinian gets it in the neck. I've come to know that I am on one side of this thing and it's the anti-muslim side. I do not like those people. I don't like their gang and mob mentality. I don't like that they hate others in what they call 'their'' territory but they are happy to go to other countries in their millions.
Every body has to remember that it is the political leaders that cause wars to keep there jobs, and not the simple people in the street. All political leaders around the world that stir trouble between countries should automatically be removed from office. This world needs people who like to build and not destroy.
If anyone criticizes anything Israel or a Zionist Leader does or says he is labeled Anti-Israel. Jewish Exceptionalism is totally wrong. No one is Exceptional in the eyes of God(if there is one).
Israel will always be surrounded by enemies, as long as they consider themselves beyond reproach.
How would Cubans react if we put them in a Ghetto in South Florida, doled them food, power etc and denied them basic human rights? Would they submit or revolt?
if what you wrote about league of nations is true than it wasn't like that in practice as the british mandate did all it can to deny jews from entering palestina. only FACTS matter,not statements. the effort to establish a jewish state only really began after WW2 and the holocaust.
how would you feel if cuba fired rockets at random civilian targets in florida?
i'm sure you would like that...
the blockade started only 1 year ago.
there will never be justification to terror against civilians
As I stated at the beginning of our discussion. Do you expect group of Peoples to allow another group of Peoples to systematically undermine them as human beings and not to react badly or in kind? Really?
Nothing Happens in a Vacuum sIr, Nothing!
Did the European Settlers of the Americas roll over when they realized they were being used and abused? Did you know that our Forefathers were TERRORIST that used sabotage, gorilla warfare including disguises to reach their goal?
the palestinian can protect themselves of course but they choose to get their political goal by targeting israeli civilians which will never be justified.
they can attack israeli army or goverment targets as they did in the past but they choose to focus theit terror attacks on civilians with suicide attacks for example.
did israel treated palestinians bad when it pulled out of gaza till the last centimeter and in return got increased rocket fire on its citizens?
Politicians and Religious Nuts are racing to fulfill their sick designs for Armageddon/Apocalypse.
It's the Christians Rights Wet Dream.
For Zionist to have their WAY they must rebuild the Temple on the Mount. They may not be screaming it from the rooftops like the Islamic Zealots that scream death to Israel but it is a Goal for SURE!
Do you know who John Hagee is? Do you know what sits on top of the Old Temple Mount?
We need to Evolve or DIE at the hands of these fanatics and wackos.
you clearly have very extreme and wierd views and i can't argue with you.
i just suggest that you read again what is zionism. most zionists are not rekigeos and don't care about the third temple.
zionism is for having israel as the home of the jewish people but not as areligeos state. as long as israel isn't a state with laws of the bible then the temple can't be rebuilt. you confuse zionism with redicals.
same as saying that all arabs belong to al qaida... it's not a teligeos conflict
The Jewish state began when 5 Arab Armies invaded a bi national setup in Palestine to genocide the Jews. They persuasded Arabs to sit it out and then promptly lost CREATING ISRAEL. Yes folks the Arabs created Israel.
What kills me about the attitude of the Israeli leaders is how quickly they have forgotten what it is like to be forsaken and dehumanized! Herded, Concentrated and Killed with Impunity! It is totally mind boggling. To those who claim that there is no such thing as a Palestinian... That is like saying that there is no such thing as a Native American. Although Native Americans were also immigrants to this hemisphere, they were here and they were/are human. Silence is Complicity : [
people say that there isn't such thing as "palestinian" not because they want to ignore a nation that want their own state but becase it's a made up nation that was born in 1967 when all arab countries attacked israel and in the war israel annexed teriroty with thousands of jordanians,egyptians and syrians who started to call themself palestinian overnight.
you're clearly wery ignorant on the conflict, do some proper reaserch instead of getting all your info from videos on youtube...
So all people in the United States that are not Native American cannot call themselves American or have common interest?
SO the way that the State of Israel was A-OK when the League of Nations set it up?
Who are you and what are you? Are you a punk, a coward that would simply roll off into the sea if someone blew down your door and sent you packing from your house?
clearly you post anti israeli comments here without ever understanding the conflict or studying the historic events
israel wasn't created with the league of nations... what you try to do is claim that israel has no right to exist because the "stolen land" myth but the truth is that no one forced the arabs out and the ones who chose to stay became israeli citizens.
i suggest you do more reaserch before embarrasing yourself again with your ignorance
How was Israel founded? By whom and for whom. What Real State past 10,000 B.C. is not taken by force??? I am NOT anti Israel. I am anti Zionist. As I am anti ANY EXTREMIST that wants to obfuscate and deny any REALITY that blocks their AGENDA.
NOBODY is exceptional. NOBODY and that is the most SATANIC propaganda in the history of history.
The League of Nations granted the United Kingdom the British Mandate of Palestine after World War I, with responsibility for establishing "...such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion..." Wiki-Paedia
israel keep kicking ass dont you ever lay down. you'll have another holocaust if you do. now get out there and kick ass. you give any more land away and i'll going to stick a boot in your ass
o Israel has killed Amricans (eg. Sailors on USS Liberty, Rachel Carrie, etc...).
o Israel spies on this country.
o Israel blackmails our corrupt politicians
o Israel steals our taxes.
o Israel uses our country as their toilet.
For more info, see my "Favorite" page.
Please distribute this post and tell your Senator and/or Representative about Israel's killing Americans, heinous crimes, stealing our taxes, and its spying on USA. Peace!
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I was being ironic and sarcastic to another YouTube commenter. Do you understand? But Hilter was not Jewish, Shicklegrubber and all. Rothschilds and all.
dont you all intelligent men and women know one thing? this is the way ww111 will be orchestrated is all a circus that Israel getst attached so hell breaks loose. they are no chosen people matter nothing else children matter until all of us one by one lays down weapons and agreession we might all be obliterated as a barbaric race not worth living. Do not start anything with Israel it is being used to kill many of us if we interfare.
The PA knows the Hamas means more mess. I think WE would be better off if Hamas took over, Israel could wage a full scale war against them legally now. If hamas is in power, rocket attacks would mean instantanious declaration of war.
navtel when you say russia should bomb israel for the hell of it, i just shows how ignorant most of you are. Russia has slaughtered tens of thousandssssss of muslims in chechnia, you just dont open your mouth when its not israel. Saddam is responsible for close to 1 million deaths in his own country and iran. EVEN THE JORDANIANS (KING HASHEMITE) KILLED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PALESTINANS. read history educate yoruself. RADICAL ISLAM is the problem. no palestine not israel.
(KING HASHEMITE) = the problem in the Arabian world add the saudis and the al sabahs the emirs of the gulf now you get rid of these parasites and the Middle east will became a totally different place. Who allows these parasites to rule? But the cat is out the bag with the Iraq out come.If Iraq stays democratic then the "kings" days are numbered ..
i say it not a war only on palistine its a crusade on islam the people of paleistine are dieing because of there fait it a crusade on islam thats what it looks like
that's not true i am muslim i love people i respect i am honest i never killed someone and i never will i am peacefull ;i am not an angel i am just human like u
you are quite honestly the first I have heard (unproven ofcourse) that are not sympathizing the intifada or terrorist activities of any kind, thats great to hear maybe now I'll rethink some Qu'ran quotes I was sent a while back inciting hatred and the murdering of jews and Christians, maybe it was for olden days Islam though..
I put a comment to support Palestine with supported evidence, of course some one came back fr Israel and gave we videos to view how tribal Moslem hamas are. Of course that person was a Israel soldier.
looks like we have more political spammers... they just THINK that EVERYONE is going to read their bullshit comments. It's fucking hilarious. Anyways, all I have to say is porcupine masturbation is affecting Jews around the world, so watch out for any signs of pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.
The coward israel soldiers....down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.(written by a turk)
plus people say israel distorts the media. But all you see on the media is how bad israel is and how the poor palestinans are suffering. You hear a un school was bombed but not how further investigation showed weapons in the school and bunkers and hamas inside shooting rockets. The world chooses to acknowlege one aspect and not another. I blame those who hide behind there kids more
So you find it okay for someone to kill YOU and YOUR family just because there was a terrorist in the same building ? If so, i hope it happens to you sometime.
Its always going to be easy to hate the stronger of the two parties. But the bottom line is just because a coountry is stronger and takes action does not make it responsible for the sitation at hand. If i came to your house and hid behind my own son and fired at you and you shot me back and accidently killed my son should you be convicted for 1st degree murder of a child? or should i?
In fact if israel targeted civilans it would have killed plenty more. Israel could easily if it wanted have its death toll in the 100's of thousnads but its not. king hashemite killed many palestinan civilans but noone is calling jordanian child killers. Hamas killed israeli children but noone is calling them child killers. Its a biased war. You can not have peace with someone who publicly denys yoiur right to exist
I just read someones post about hamas targeting soldiers and not civilans. This is completely wrong. Hamas publicly states that all israelis are a target including women and children. If hamas wasnt hiding behind its very own children israel would not target them in any way. In fact hamas blew up a school before all this even happened. If israel started firing 100 rockets a day blindly in to palestine for 6 weeks after a truce the world would condem them. Israel does not target civilans
The facts are simple. People will always justify the actions of the palestinains because they see israel as superior. It will alwatys be ok for them to attack israel but not vice versa. It's not about numbers, i constantly hear look how many dead. Its about where to place blame and if you look hard the blame is on hamas. People claim israel kills so many arabs but if you look at the history of the arabs the number one arab killer is arabs themselves. Saddam huessien for example used bio warfare
also it is no longer occupied territories. Israel withdrew from there and now is back because hamas needed attention from the world so they started a war. All hamas cares about is distorting facts and gainging world sympathy even if it meens killing its own children. If isrtael withdrew completely today from gaza and asked for peace hamas woud continue its rockets without fail. It is a fact. People should be asking themselves why is it ok for hamas to hide behind its own people and not help them
as for the UN and people not saying they do enough to help the palestinans. How come for the past 2 years and 6000 rockets later the UN said nothing about israel being in danger. Its a double standard my friends. People say hamas is weak so its ok to fire rockets in to israel but israel responing id automaticly disproportionate. This is illogical once again. If canada fired 6000 rockets in to the US. Canada would no longer exist
also you claim israel wants to slaughter all palestinians but that makes no sense either. If Israel truly didnt want palestine there it wouldnt be there. It has the ability to kill all of them relatively quick. Hamas on the other hand openly admits to wantung to wipe out israel completely and all its civilans. But once again this is justified by people somehow. Its interesting how those who suppoort hamas justify its actions even towards the palestinans
I applaud the PA for standing up to the hammas. That is needed, especially in Gaza. However they must do more during cease-fires to stop the build up of hammas and its weapons that threaten Israel.
The U.N sucks. They defined the agreement after WW2, and then left the British out of it and let the Arabs and Jews fight each other. This is 2009 and evil still exists like it or not, and hamas has proven itself unworthy to negotiate peace. How can anyone not see that? The Jews should do what they must to defend their citizens, after all the rest of the world wanted them all killed, (and nearly succeeded)and did nothing but watch as millions where murdered and tortured.
Second, Israel doesn't tell the truth when it claims it doesn't target civilians. Mistakes happen once, twice, even ten times. However, when thousands of innocent civilians, including entire families, are murdered in indiscriminate aerial bombing, it means the killing of civilians is deliberate. After all, killing knowingly is killing deliberately. And it doesn't matter if you call it collateral damage or use other euphemisms in reference to the killings.
"when thousands of innocent civilians, including entire families, are murdered in indiscriminate aerial bombing, it means the killing of civilians is deliberate."
Your logic is flawed. just because civilians are killed it does not prove intent to kill civilians. you seem more intelligent than this.
sorry to say but either you're playing the game of the blind guy or the stupid. Israel is performing mass civilian and children killing using the pretext that hamas fighters are present in these bombed locations. Hamas on the other hand can launch rockets in the middle of israeli shopping malls and pretend that there are israeli soldiers presence in these area, but they're not doing it aren't they. They do have rockets that could kill civilians but they only use them to aim israeli soldiers.
having that said, compare between the number of civilians killed by hamas and the ones killed by the IDF. The ratio is not even 1 to a thousand. you can try to miss lead people into thinking that IDF is the innocent angel and hamas is the scary giant but people around the world are not stupid and they know the truth about the IDF being a killing war maching that doesn't differentiate between civilians or warriors.
Certainly, these homemade projectiles are no match for the state-of-the-art of the American technology of death such as the F-16 Jet fighter, the Bunker Busters, and the Abrams tanks which Israel is using to wreak death and havoc on unprotected Gaza and its defenseless civilians.
Thats like saying the U.S. should never have decided to eliminate bin laden and his cronies after 9/11, because they didn't have the fire power the U.S. armed forces did. Civilians died in Afghanistan too... it is a consequence of war. sux
Answer: Well, first of all, whatever modest and primitive means of resistance the Palestinians possess don't pose a real strategic threat to nuclear-armed Israel. The Palestinian projectiles fired from Gaza should only be seen as a desperate outcry by a people who are being exterminated by the Israeli war machine.
Yes i agree that Hamas fired 7000 rockets within 8 years which killed 11 civilians but can i ask the Americans what would they do if the Russians invades America and relocate the population in a concentrating camp,and they become the authority, what would the Americans do? the answer to that is simple, Hiroshima,Vietnam,Iraq,Afghanistan perhaps?
I would really like to accept the reasoning for this war by the Americans, their leaders said (including Obama)"if my house was attacked by rockets in the middle of the night,i would do the same thing" but they foregot or not caring to ask, why was the house attacked in the first place.
it is useless and futile for anyone to continue talking peace and non violence to a government whose only reply is more savage attacks on an unarmed and defenseless people
i refer to the regime that bombed the church of the nativity using heavy military artillery with innocent women and children inside who had no food or water or medicine and to this day use the excuse that they were only defending themselves- yes Israel
Holocaust survivor, Hedy Epstein: "The situation, especially in Gaza, is so awful, I feel I must continue to be a moral voice, must continue to have the courage to take a public stand against Israel's crimes against humanity and the misinterpretations provided by the media. Israel would not be able to carry out its crimes against humanity without the United States, world, permitting it to do so and the mass media..."
Israel is a Terrorist Nation...I am sick of this shit Israel killing Innocent and the weakest!
Israel is the only One and only jewish country, been breaching world's Piece from 60 years now US wont step up because our Media owned by our Politicians and US political interest in Israel!
Most Fucked up shit now, dirty Jews sitting behind the curtains even controlling you tube. You tube has been Deleting, Modifying and changing the view Counter on all the Video being played for or against Israel!
Samirah Bau'lusha, 36, lost 5 of her daughters when her house was destroyed after the Israeli Air Force bombed a mosque next door. Four of her other children were also hurt during the attack. According to Ba'aloosha, many houses near by were damaged as a result of the mosque bombing.
*1*poor people theare only sin is that thr not attractive,and thear voiceless, and they are the opressed,by the better looking people with a voice.the ugresors and racists.
they may not make it on there owne,theyr not black,they cant put the strong bullys and rasists in ther place,like the blackafrican can.
*2*they need the support of the black and white and oriantal, people,that are on the cide of goodness,fairness and truth,(the jimmy carters of the world) the martinlutherkings of the world,and most importently the jews of truth. like in,who is the real "David and Goliath.
Israel is a Terrorist Nation...I am sick of this shit Israel killing Innocent and the weakest!
Israel is the only One and only jewish country, been breaching world's Piece from 60 years now US wont step up because our Media owned by our Politicians and US political interest in Israel!
Most Fucked up shit now, dirty Jews sitting behind the curtains even controlling you tube. You tube has been Deleting, Modifying and changing the view Counter on all the Video being played for or against Israel!!
It adds to the comon persons saying walking a mile in those shoes.
Supporting the Real News i feel more informed then glued to some Telivison Screen owned by a conflict of interest group who MFG munitions to the B1 Bomber.And sign Billos Paycheck.
I'm siding with neither side. BUT, it seems stupid how 420 palestinians died, and 10-20 died from Israel...
Israel has the right to defend themselves but, I think this is just paranoia and racism. There's seriously something wrong with all of them. I do not mean to insult anyone, but I really do hope the governments mature and find a way to solve this huge issue. ... which may be never, because human nature is destructive at times, and extremely stubborn at times... we have to grow up.
It is very easy when you are watching a segment on a situation & have NO clue as to what's truly going on in other Countries. In my opinion, because I don't know & I'm sure Many on this site don't know, I would think that anyone with empathy should only want it to STOP. WAR is not the answer & Why are we in IRAQ again? O.o
I'm surprised normally people are peaceful in their reactions when invaded.
This is the reason for separation of church and state...oh and better education in talking with each other.
Give Palestine statehood and take away their main argument for attacks and aggressions, diplomatically take away the excuses so that reasonable and peaceful reasons can enter the fray.
It's ridiculous to argue any other cases. The tool of war for peace has yet to work, but for maybe a few cases in history. too few.
You can pull a trigger and follow orders.... wow! Too bad you can't THINK.
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I'm sorry for you, I'm sorry you aren't capable of discussion - I'm sorry you don't have the "training" or "equipment" (to use terms you may be comfortable with) to have a discussion with me about world issues.
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I'll leave you with your eagerness to kill innocent people as I have no time for your ignorant and crude and weak minded comments, I'm busy these days.
This report fails to reveal the bigger picture: Israel does not treat the Palestinians as equals by withholding water, electricity, food, medicine, free-travel, etc. Hamas has come to the defense of the Palestinians by launching rockets into Israel. Israel retaliates by bombing targets and preparing ground forces. The solution has to start at the beginning--Israel must treat the Palestinians as equal citizens of the region, and the Palestinians must rebuke Hamas as an outside interference.
Any country should be allowed to defend itself, but goodness, how cant leaders understand that sending troops like indiscriminate thugs into another country that leads to high civilian body count is not smart.
Israel gets to look like aggressors against Palestinian civilians and this operation is supposed to do what? eliminate Hamas who'll only run, hide and wait for their turn?
I think it takes allot of guts to be unarmed and fight against an army that is very very well equipped. You can call the palastanies terrorists or what ever, but to me they are freedom fighters. Israelis barricades them with walls after walls and check point in every 200 yeards. No food, fuel and medicine can enter the city. If you ask me is the Israelis that act like pussys with there f 15 gifts from the US. Some of you are just brainwashed test tube baby. wake up and smell it people.
its kinda hard to get weapons living in a caged-in ethnic ghetto where every time you try to build some weapons, Planes from the country keeping you in those ghettos bomb your factories. Maybe the USA should give 6$ billion in free loans to Gaza this decade instead of Israel.
This problem is minor both by land size and by casualty figures, as terrible as it may be. So what is the obsession with it compared to other conflicts as the one in Sudan or in Sri Lanka? Simple answer - anti-semitism. Which is also the root of the conflict. Holocaust. Hebron. Progroms. Charter of Hamas. The Real news isn't real - it's ultra leftist.
America should give back all its land to the American Indias, the Spanish settlers in South america should give back all its land to the south american indios. The Australians should give back all its land to the Aboriginals. The Russians should give back all its expanded borders to the various people it supressed around its borders.
What is this obsession by the world with israel and palestine? 20% of Israelis are Arab. There are precisely so many refugess because Israel does not massacre them the way other armies have massacred peoples. The Americans massacred the Indians. The Conquistadors massacred the Indios. The Japanese massacred the Chinese and Koreans. The Germans massacred the Jews and just about everyone else. The Russians massacred their own people and plenty of others.
Someone takes your homeland, doesn't even take care of you, they get away with everything and you want your home back.
When you finally realise that there is nothing the world is gonna do about it, you pick up an AK-47 and you say "Fuck em, we'll do it ourselves". You are called a "Terrorist" by America and Israel.
Well i say this: If i was a Palestinian, i'd go on a rampage and blow the shit out of Israel as much as i can because thats the only thing that works
Israel has put the Palestinian Authorities into the position of policing the prison of Gaza for them. I am glad that the real news has shown that both real israeli's and real palestinians are against this invasion. Lebanon should have shown you can fight from the air, but as soon as you go in on the ground youll leave with your tail between your legs.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well." - Mark 16:16-18
Oops there goes the credibility of the bible, unless you'd like to drink poison
were did you get your info? can you give me verses from Quran?
BTW in the middle ages all over the world, Arabia, Asia and yes even Europe people got married at age of puberty boys and girls, it was the norm, its historical fact, go to a library n do the research yourself.
why post a comment like this? are you trying to instigate something? your profile says your 54 yrs old, your an adult you should act like one
"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every female child who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:15-18)
Oops look at that: Pedophilia in the Bible. No wonder you project your perversions unto others
Really MuslimGhost? I'm sure we can find much more than this one passage that questions the credibility of scripture. Just as we can find any religious document subject when properly scrutinized.
MuslimGhost... Hmm, isn't Islam build on Christian/Judaic beliefs? Doesn't Islam refer to itself as the third Oasis.
And there are many Authors/Books that have subjected the Qur'an to examination which found it completely contradictory and I can find over 200 websites, dedicated, to exposing them.
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention
to the plank that is in your own eye?" (Matthew 7:3)
My dear Plebian your user name is well chosen as you appear to be poorly read and quite ignorant on the subject which you are disputing.
Islam isnt "built" on Christian/Judaic beliefs. It is the final, completed version of the same religion which has been revealed by the one and only God from the time the first human, Adam, walked the earth. God has only ever ordained ONE religion- Islam (submission to His will). I've never heard the third oasis comment, and nor does that make any sense.
As for your alleged contradictions, I have looked into them myself. They are not contradictions, they are nothing more than the product of decievers who play around with the text. They take parts out of context or without their proper meaning, or they take literally what is metaphorical. This is a completely different thing from the Bible, where the contradictions are impossible to make sense of without creating a completely inconsistent text.
MuslimGhost, Of coarse I will always be ignorant on the subject, especially when I don't agree with you, how convenient. I find all religions (Dogma) to be completely contradictory and irrational, which is replete though-out your post.
But my point was you're making an error in logic, pointing out the contradictions of the second "version" that your version is based on and that, my dear MuslimGhost, is a complete breakdown of reason.
Now now, lets not speak of logic and reason when you have not even read the Quran nor do you know the first thing about Islam. How logical or reasonable is it for someone who has never studied physics in their life to offer a critique of string theory?
There's no need to be an expert on Islam to critique its core premises. Even if its internal logic were sound, it is still built on comically bad starting principles.
Its called the unseen. Just as you have never seen your brain and yet you know its there. Nor have you seen atoms or the big bang but you accept it because its the most reasonable conclusion. If there was empiracal evidence it would not be a test of faith.
If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! (10:99)
It's not incoherent because it's unseen, but because it's supernatural. It's the very concept that is incoherent.
Allah could appear before me in a beam of light and I'd start looking behind him for the wiring. Even if I couldn't detect how the trick was done, I'd know that with enough research and time, I'd figure it out.
Not so with the supernatural. The supernatural can never be figured out, because it just ain't natural. And that's why the concept was invented: for unquestioned submission.
Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day,- there are indeed Signs for men of understanding, (3:190)
At the time the Quran was written, right up until recently, the prevailing assumption was that the universe existed eternally. If this was so, then due to the number of stars present all around the earth, light from stars all across the universe would be reaching us right now at every point in the sky.
This means that once the sun sets, every single point of the sky would have a point of light from a distant star that existed at some time and place in the universe. The result would be a sky that is always lit, both during the day and night. However, we see an alternation between the brightness of day, and the darkness of night. Therefore, the universe could not have existed eternally, and must be in flux. If it was not eternal, it was created. If it was created, it had a Creator.
Sorry, I'm confused. What exactly have you refuted that I've said, and what is your quote an example of?
Let's not delve into questions of the universe, which neither of us can answer. We already know that this gives you trouble sleeping at night, so you find comfort in adult fairy tales. I sleep easy, because I know that people once thought thunder came from Thor's mighty hammer. We eventually figured that one out, and we'll continue to figure things out, while religion cedes ever more ground.
Ive just answered it, but you dont want to face the reality. And this is where science comes to a screeching halt. Because it has to promote the religion of materialism no matter what. So when faced with the evident realities of God's signs, they turn tail or come up with ridiculous theories like "multiverses". They claimed the universe was eternal right up until it was impossible to deny the big bang, because anything that's not eternal has a beginning and is acted upon by something else.
Good luck. I've done this same battle with "True Believers" of every faith. Circular logic and ad hominem attacks are all you'll get. But, if you just want to hone your repertoire of insults, it is a grand way to while away the hours.
Muslim, you're changing the topic, as most believers in any religion do when faced with a critical assessment.
I don't need to read the Quran to point out the flaw in your algorithm, which is as follows: Quran is the answer, which has a flawed premise. And that is essentially what you're saying, It's that simple.
By the way, it's no longer referred to as "string theory", it's now "M theory".
Im not changing the topic my dear plebian, rather, it appears you lack the cranial capacity to understand similes and metaphors. In any case Im not going to argue with you since you do not know what you are arguing about. It would be like Steven Hawkings arguing about black holes with a three year old child that has down syndrome. Could you parse that simile, or will you again accuse me of changing the topic?
Im still waiting for your explanation of how you presume to argue about something you know nothing about. Maybe if you had something of substance to stand on, you would not be constantly resorting to ad hominem attacks and deductive fallacies built on unsound premises.
Do ye not see that Allah has subjected to your (use) all things in the heavens and on earth, and has made his bounties flow to you in exceeding measure, (both) seen and unseen? Yet there are among men those who dispute about Allah, without knowledge and without guidance, and without a Book to enlighten them! (Quran 31:20)
Is this the one that was in reply to me (the Quran quotes)?
I hate the way YouTube threads discussions (using "thread" loosely).
Assuming so, I'll just say that when you quote the Quran or Bible or any other religious text, my eyes glaze over. (Is Allah doing that? If so I want to thank Him.)
That said, the Zionists control freaks are doing a VERY good job in making me hate the "jews" in occupied Palestine.
Even though I know that this is to fire me up to approve of the coming attacks on Israel so the U.S. can "legally" come to their defence and attack many middle east countries in preparation for the coming of planned world war 3, I can't help but PUKE when the mass media propaganda machine reports that 8
I LOVED REAL NEWS AND ALWAYS WATCH THEME FUCK JEWS AND ISRAELI TERRORISTS
ufukkurt11 11 months ago
There is a very large part of me which has just enjoyed the chocolate cake and coffee so much that I don't really care if another palestinian gets it in the neck. I've come to know that I am on one side of this thing and it's the anti-muslim side. I do not like those people. I don't like their gang and mob mentality. I don't like that they hate others in what they call 'their'' territory but they are happy to go to other countries in their millions.
Hypoguest 1 year ago
Every body has to remember that it is the political leaders that cause wars to keep there jobs, and not the simple people in the street. All political leaders around the world that stir trouble between countries should automatically be removed from office. This world needs people who like to build and not destroy.
controledinsanity 2 years ago
If anyone criticizes anything Israel or a Zionist Leader does or says he is labeled Anti-Israel. Jewish Exceptionalism is totally wrong. No one is Exceptional in the eyes of God(if there is one).
Israel will always be surrounded by enemies, as long as they consider themselves beyond reproach.
How would Cubans react if we put them in a Ghetto in South Florida, doled them food, power etc and denied them basic human rights? Would they submit or revolt?
tainoaz 2 years ago
if what you wrote about league of nations is true than it wasn't like that in practice as the british mandate did all it can to deny jews from entering palestina. only FACTS matter,not statements. the effort to establish a jewish state only really began after WW2 and the holocaust.
how would you feel if cuba fired rockets at random civilian targets in florida?
i'm sure you would like that...
the blockade started only 1 year ago.
there will never be justification to terror against civilians
TaoTaoLaoTzu 2 years ago
As I stated at the beginning of our discussion. Do you expect group of Peoples to allow another group of Peoples to systematically undermine them as human beings and not to react badly or in kind? Really?
Nothing Happens in a Vacuum sIr, Nothing!
Did the European Settlers of the Americas roll over when they realized they were being used and abused? Did you know that our Forefathers were TERRORIST that used sabotage, gorilla warfare including disguises to reach their goal?
tainoaz 2 years ago
the palestinian can protect themselves of course but they choose to get their political goal by targeting israeli civilians which will never be justified.
they can attack israeli army or goverment targets as they did in the past but they choose to focus theit terror attacks on civilians with suicide attacks for example.
did israel treated palestinians bad when it pulled out of gaza till the last centimeter and in return got increased rocket fire on its citizens?
was 9/11 justified?
TaoTaoLaoTzu 2 years ago
Politicians and Religious Nuts are racing to fulfill their sick designs for Armageddon/Apocalypse.
It's the Christians Rights Wet Dream.
For Zionist to have their WAY they must rebuild the Temple on the Mount. They may not be screaming it from the rooftops like the Islamic Zealots that scream death to Israel but it is a Goal for SURE!
Do you know who John Hagee is? Do you know what sits on top of the Old Temple Mount?
We need to Evolve or DIE at the hands of these fanatics and wackos.
tainoaz 2 years ago
you clearly have very extreme and wierd views and i can't argue with you.
i just suggest that you read again what is zionism. most zionists are not rekigeos and don't care about the third temple.
zionism is for having israel as the home of the jewish people but not as areligeos state. as long as israel isn't a state with laws of the bible then the temple can't be rebuilt. you confuse zionism with redicals.
same as saying that all arabs belong to al qaida... it's not a teligeos conflict
TaoTaoLaoTzu 2 years ago
The Jewish state began when 5 Arab Armies invaded a bi national setup in Palestine to genocide the Jews. They persuasded Arabs to sit it out and then promptly lost CREATING ISRAEL. Yes folks the Arabs created Israel.
kreplach2 2 years ago
What kills me about the attitude of the Israeli leaders is how quickly they have forgotten what it is like to be forsaken and dehumanized! Herded, Concentrated and Killed with Impunity! It is totally mind boggling. To those who claim that there is no such thing as a Palestinian... That is like saying that there is no such thing as a Native American. Although Native Americans were also immigrants to this hemisphere, they were here and they were/are human. Silence is Complicity : [
tainoaz 2 years ago
people say that there isn't such thing as "palestinian" not because they want to ignore a nation that want their own state but becase it's a made up nation that was born in 1967 when all arab countries attacked israel and in the war israel annexed teriroty with thousands of jordanians,egyptians and syrians who started to call themself palestinian overnight.
you're clearly wery ignorant on the conflict, do some proper reaserch instead of getting all your info from videos on youtube...
TaoTaoLaoTzu 2 years ago
So all people in the United States that are not Native American cannot call themselves American or have common interest?
SO the way that the State of Israel was A-OK when the League of Nations set it up?
Who are you and what are you? Are you a punk, a coward that would simply roll off into the sea if someone blew down your door and sent you packing from your house?
tainoaz 2 years ago
your comment is weird to say the least...
clearly you post anti israeli comments here without ever understanding the conflict or studying the historic events
israel wasn't created with the league of nations... what you try to do is claim that israel has no right to exist because the "stolen land" myth but the truth is that no one forced the arabs out and the ones who chose to stay became israeli citizens.
i suggest you do more reaserch before embarrasing yourself again with your ignorance
TaoTaoLaoTzu 2 years ago
Educate me then, TaoTaoLaoTzu.
How was Israel founded? By whom and for whom. What Real State past 10,000 B.C. is not taken by force??? I am NOT anti Israel. I am anti Zionist. As I am anti ANY EXTREMIST that wants to obfuscate and deny any REALITY that blocks their AGENDA.
NOBODY is exceptional. NOBODY and that is the most SATANIC propaganda in the history of history.
tainoaz 2 years ago
The League of Nations granted the United Kingdom the British Mandate of Palestine after World War I, with responsibility for establishing "...such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion..." Wiki-Paedia
tainoaz 2 years ago
israel keep kicking ass dont you ever lay down. you'll have another holocaust if you do. now get out there and kick ass. you give any more land away and i'll going to stick a boot in your ass
Murgertroy 2 years ago
Ironicism is evil man,and Hitler was Jewish!
Quuit denying your soul...
MORE CRYPTICS. Afraid of something?
kreplach2 2 years ago
You obviously don't understand plain language!
You don't even understood that word:Encruphted!En=within....
oldor12 2 years ago
Try learning englisch. Ha!
kreplach2 2 years ago
hit=terror,weakness...Hebrew...
oldor12 2 years ago
Elaborate. Your words are cryptic.
kreplach2 2 years ago
Germans newspapers got a copy from the conferenz in the Rabin army scholl which allegedly took place 13th february 2009.
This protocol contains atrocities the Israelian soldiers committed in Gaza.
Perhaps this protocols are fakes.
fryob302 2 years ago
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o Israel has killed Amricans (eg. Sailors on USS Liberty, Rachel Carrie, etc...).
o Israel spies on this country.
o Israel blackmails our corrupt politicians
o Israel steals our taxes.
o Israel uses our country as their toilet.
For more info, see my "Favorite" page.
Please distribute this post and tell your Senator and/or Representative about Israel's killing Americans, heinous crimes, stealing our taxes, and its spying on USA. Peace!
HateAllNazis 3 years ago
settle on one country, give one vote for each citizen in presidental election...it seems to work well in the US...why not there?
pathdonn 3 years ago
THE WORL ISLAMIC IS STUPID
ALEX72MTY 3 years ago
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veiled5 3 years ago
Nazisrael must pay by crimes. Zionism is a genocidal group in nazisrael goverment.
campeonpp 3 years ago
Its so convenient atat Zionisn ends with an N and Nazism stats with one.
kreplach2 2 years ago
Thats two different directions and two opposite countries man!You don't even understand genetiks????Even though Hitler was
Jewish,hence his shem/name!
oldor12 2 years ago
I was being ironic and sarcastic to another YouTube commenter. Do you understand? But Hilter was not Jewish, Shicklegrubber and all. Rothschilds and all.
kreplach2 2 years ago
Ironicism is evil man,and Hitler was Jewish!
Quuit denying your soul...
oldor12 2 years ago
dont you all intelligent men and women know one thing? this is the way ww111 will be orchestrated is all a circus that Israel getst attached so hell breaks loose. they are no chosen people matter nothing else children matter until all of us one by one lays down weapons and agreession we might all be obliterated as a barbaric race not worth living. Do not start anything with Israel it is being used to kill many of us if we interfare.
99z35 3 years ago
The PA knows the Hamas means more mess. I think WE would be better off if Hamas took over, Israel could wage a full scale war against them legally now. If hamas is in power, rocket attacks would mean instantanious declaration of war.
tommysch 3 years ago
lol I like your thinking
Johnrosssssss 3 years ago
paleistine 4 ever
cuttheraceistheads 3 years ago
Palestine has yet to live.
kreplach2 2 years ago
Palestine will never rise above its terror!
Alla,is a slave master not savior.
oldor12 2 years ago
I couldnt agree with you more. We are actually witnessing in its Islamic terror its death knell.
kreplach2 2 years ago
See,you are a double-ider!Nice splice...
oldor12 2 years ago
Splice??? Double-ider? More cryptics.
kreplach2 2 years ago
Thanks for repeating my exact words,it shows
a new dimension that is blocked...
oldor12 2 years ago
Is that a singing Group>" The Blocked New Dimension?"
kreplach2 2 years ago
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Israel's latest war crimes:
Attempting to bulldoze houses with civilians inside.
Killing civilians trying to escape under the protection of white flags.
Opening fire on ambulances attempting to reach the wounded.
Using white phosphorous shells in civilian areas
mixmatosis 3 years ago
the world should not forget the genocide by israel,israel should be tryed for war crimes,who will it be next.who are the real terroists,
emm876 3 years ago
navtel when you say russia should bomb israel for the hell of it, i just shows how ignorant most of you are. Russia has slaughtered tens of thousandssssss of muslims in chechnia, you just dont open your mouth when its not israel. Saddam is responsible for close to 1 million deaths in his own country and iran. EVEN THE JORDANIANS (KING HASHEMITE) KILLED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PALESTINANS. read history educate yoruself. RADICAL ISLAM is the problem. no palestine not israel.
cihypt 3 years ago
(KING HASHEMITE) = the problem in the Arabian world add the saudis and the al sabahs the emirs of the gulf now you get rid of these parasites and the Middle east will became a totally different place. Who allows these parasites to rule? But the cat is out the bag with the Iraq out come.If Iraq stays democratic then the "kings" days are numbered ..
SSWOLFENSTEINSS 3 years ago
I could not agree more.
Ex0dus111 3 years ago
i say it not a war only on palistine its a crusade on islam the people of paleistine are dieing because of there fait it a crusade on islam thats what it looks like
cuttheraceistheads 3 years ago
they r dying every day or because the kids are arabes so it doesn't really matter don't u feal sorry 4 them
asma03dz 3 years ago
Islam will not stop till they have destroyed the world.
Islam = Hate
Islam = Oppression
Islam = Lies
Islam = Murder
Islam = Terror
Islam = Evil
GrandGuignologist 3 years ago
that's not true i am muslim i love people i respect i am honest i never killed someone and i never will i am peacefull ;i am not an angel i am just human like u
asma03dz 3 years ago
you are quite honestly the first I have heard (unproven ofcourse) that are not sympathizing the intifada or terrorist activities of any kind, thats great to hear maybe now I'll rethink some Qu'ran quotes I was sent a while back inciting hatred and the murdering of jews and Christians, maybe it was for olden days Islam though..
Johnrosssssss 3 years ago
Israel fires upon a clearly labeled U.N. Aid truck today, killing it's driver.
Israel bombs two U.N. schools this week. U.N. said definitively no rocket fired from school.
"Israel is investigating"
The whole world is watching this atrocity...
WML209 3 years ago 3
I put a comment to support Palestine with supported evidence, of course some one came back fr Israel and gave we videos to view how tribal Moslem hamas are. Of course that person was a Israel soldier.
cincin3 3 years ago
looks like we have more political spammers... they just THINK that EVERYONE is going to read their bullshit comments. It's fucking hilarious. Anyways, all I have to say is porcupine masturbation is affecting Jews around the world, so watch out for any signs of pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.
Aerba54 3 years ago
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The coward israel soldiers....down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.down with israel.(written by a turk)
ALBAYMEHMET 3 years ago
plus people say israel distorts the media. But all you see on the media is how bad israel is and how the poor palestinans are suffering. You hear a un school was bombed but not how further investigation showed weapons in the school and bunkers and hamas inside shooting rockets. The world chooses to acknowlege one aspect and not another. I blame those who hide behind there kids more
ilanchico 3 years ago
So you find it okay for someone to kill YOU and YOUR family just because there was a terrorist in the same building ? If so, i hope it happens to you sometime.
persiaruler 3 years ago
Its always going to be easy to hate the stronger of the two parties. But the bottom line is just because a coountry is stronger and takes action does not make it responsible for the sitation at hand. If i came to your house and hid behind my own son and fired at you and you shot me back and accidently killed my son should you be convicted for 1st degree murder of a child? or should i?
ilanchico 3 years ago
In fact if israel targeted civilans it would have killed plenty more. Israel could easily if it wanted have its death toll in the 100's of thousnads but its not. king hashemite killed many palestinan civilans but noone is calling jordanian child killers. Hamas killed israeli children but noone is calling them child killers. Its a biased war. You can not have peace with someone who publicly denys yoiur right to exist
ilanchico 3 years ago
I just read someones post about hamas targeting soldiers and not civilans. This is completely wrong. Hamas publicly states that all israelis are a target including women and children. If hamas wasnt hiding behind its very own children israel would not target them in any way. In fact hamas blew up a school before all this even happened. If israel started firing 100 rockets a day blindly in to palestine for 6 weeks after a truce the world would condem them. Israel does not target civilans
ilanchico 3 years ago
"I just read someones post about hamas targeting soldiers and not civilans. This is completely wrong."
True. Many good comments! Thumbs up!
l8rthen 3 years ago
The facts are simple. People will always justify the actions of the palestinains because they see israel as superior. It will alwatys be ok for them to attack israel but not vice versa. It's not about numbers, i constantly hear look how many dead. Its about where to place blame and if you look hard the blame is on hamas. People claim israel kills so many arabs but if you look at the history of the arabs the number one arab killer is arabs themselves. Saddam huessien for example used bio warfare
ilanchico 3 years ago
also it is no longer occupied territories. Israel withdrew from there and now is back because hamas needed attention from the world so they started a war. All hamas cares about is distorting facts and gainging world sympathy even if it meens killing its own children. If isrtael withdrew completely today from gaza and asked for peace hamas woud continue its rockets without fail. It is a fact. People should be asking themselves why is it ok for hamas to hide behind its own people and not help them
ilanchico 3 years ago
as for the UN and people not saying they do enough to help the palestinans. How come for the past 2 years and 6000 rockets later the UN said nothing about israel being in danger. Its a double standard my friends. People say hamas is weak so its ok to fire rockets in to israel but israel responing id automaticly disproportionate. This is illogical once again. If canada fired 6000 rockets in to the US. Canada would no longer exist
ilanchico 3 years ago
also you claim israel wants to slaughter all palestinians but that makes no sense either. If Israel truly didnt want palestine there it wouldnt be there. It has the ability to kill all of them relatively quick. Hamas on the other hand openly admits to wantung to wipe out israel completely and all its civilans. But once again this is justified by people somehow. Its interesting how those who suppoort hamas justify its actions even towards the palestinans
ilanchico 3 years ago
I applaud the PA for standing up to the hammas. That is needed, especially in Gaza. However they must do more during cease-fires to stop the build up of hammas and its weapons that threaten Israel.
drewlaur 3 years ago
The U.N sucks. They defined the agreement after WW2, and then left the British out of it and let the Arabs and Jews fight each other. This is 2009 and evil still exists like it or not, and hamas has proven itself unworthy to negotiate peace. How can anyone not see that? The Jews should do what they must to defend their citizens, after all the rest of the world wanted them all killed, (and nearly succeeded)and did nothing but watch as millions where murdered and tortured.
drewlaur 3 years ago
Besides, when the number of innocent victims is so high and so disproportionate as is the case in Gaza now, even intent becomes irrelevant.
willquinteros 3 years ago
Second, Israel doesn't tell the truth when it claims it doesn't target civilians. Mistakes happen once, twice, even ten times. However, when thousands of innocent civilians, including entire families, are murdered in indiscriminate aerial bombing, it means the killing of civilians is deliberate. After all, killing knowingly is killing deliberately. And it doesn't matter if you call it collateral damage or use other euphemisms in reference to the killings.
willquinteros 3 years ago
This is a ridiculous comment.
"when thousands of innocent civilians, including entire families, are murdered in indiscriminate aerial bombing, it means the killing of civilians is deliberate."
Your logic is flawed. just because civilians are killed it does not prove intent to kill civilians. you seem more intelligent than this.
drewlaur 3 years ago
sorry to say but either you're playing the game of the blind guy or the stupid. Israel is performing mass civilian and children killing using the pretext that hamas fighters are present in these bombed locations. Hamas on the other hand can launch rockets in the middle of israeli shopping malls and pretend that there are israeli soldiers presence in these area, but they're not doing it aren't they. They do have rockets that could kill civilians but they only use them to aim israeli soldiers.
silentseeker79 3 years ago
having that said, compare between the number of civilians killed by hamas and the ones killed by the IDF. The ratio is not even 1 to a thousand. you can try to miss lead people into thinking that IDF is the innocent angel and hamas is the scary giant but people around the world are not stupid and they know the truth about the IDF being a killing war maching that doesn't differentiate between civilians or warriors.
silentseeker79 3 years ago
Certainly, these homemade projectiles are no match for the state-of-the-art of the American technology of death such as the F-16 Jet fighter, the Bunker Busters, and the Abrams tanks which Israel is using to wreak death and havoc on unprotected Gaza and its defenseless civilians.
willquinteros 3 years ago
Thats like saying the U.S. should never have decided to eliminate bin laden and his cronies after 9/11, because they didn't have the fire power the U.S. armed forces did. Civilians died in Afghanistan too... it is a consequence of war. sux
drewlaur 3 years ago
Answer: Well, first of all, whatever modest and primitive means of resistance the Palestinians possess don't pose a real strategic threat to nuclear-armed Israel. The Palestinian projectiles fired from Gaza should only be seen as a desperate outcry by a people who are being exterminated by the Israeli war machine.
willquinteros 3 years ago
Question: But Israel says it doesn't kill Palestinian l civilians deliberately like the Palestinians do.
willquinteros 3 years ago
It is informative. It is sad that the Israeli election campaign is by blood of innocents
aniggg 3 years ago
Yes i agree that Hamas fired 7000 rockets within 8 years which killed 11 civilians but can i ask the Americans what would they do if the Russians invades America and relocate the population in a concentrating camp,and they become the authority, what would the Americans do? the answer to that is simple, Hiroshima,Vietnam,Iraq,Afghanistan perhaps?
pertolongan 3 years ago 2
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I would really like to accept the reasoning for this war by the Americans, their leaders said (including Obama)"if my house was attacked by rockets in the middle of the night,i would do the same thing" but they foregot or not caring to ask, why was the house attacked in the first place.
pertolongan 3 years ago
"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of Darkness, but rather EXPOSE them." Ephesians 5:11
Israel has been exposed. Very sad.
matrixxx123456789 3 years ago 2
I know nothing but fuck Israel!!!
kanateka 3 years ago
it is useless and futile for anyone to continue talking peace and non violence to a government whose only reply is more savage attacks on an unarmed and defenseless people
dcjhrj 3 years ago 2
Which government are you referring to? I assume Israel is the savage government?
bluethinggg 3 years ago 2
i refer to the regime that bombed the church of the nativity using heavy military artillery with innocent women and children inside who had no food or water or medicine and to this day use the excuse that they were only defending themselves- yes Israel
dcjhrj 3 years ago 2
Holocaust survivor, Hedy Epstein: "The situation, especially in Gaza, is so awful, I feel I must continue to be a moral voice, must continue to have the courage to take a public stand against Israel's crimes against humanity and the misinterpretations provided by the media. Israel would not be able to carry out its crimes against humanity without the United States, world, permitting it to do so and the mass media..."
dadaimiza 3 years ago 5
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waaa waaa poor palestinians. Fuck em
perfecttimingNONO 3 years ago
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Israel is a Terrorist Nation...I am sick of this shit Israel killing Innocent and the weakest!
Israel is the only One and only jewish country, been breaching world's Piece from 60 years now US wont step up because our Media owned by our Politicians and US political interest in Israel!
Most Fucked up shit now, dirty Jews sitting behind the curtains even controlling you tube. You tube has been Deleting, Modifying and changing the view Counter on all the Video being played for or against Israel!
G4ngst3r535 3 years ago 2
Samirah Bau'lusha, 36, lost 5 of her daughters when her house was destroyed after the Israeli Air Force bombed a mosque next door. Four of her other children were also hurt during the attack. According to Ba'aloosha, many houses near by were damaged as a result of the mosque bombing.
omapps 3 years ago
*1*poor people theare only sin is that thr not attractive,and thear voiceless, and they are the opressed,by the better looking people with a voice.the ugresors and racists.
they may not make it on there owne,theyr not black,they cant put the strong bullys and rasists in ther place,like the blackafrican can.
tthatsrightt 3 years ago
*2*they need the support of the black and white and oriantal, people,that are on the cide of goodness,fairness and truth,(the jimmy carters of the world) the martinlutherkings of the world,and most importently the jews of truth. like in,who is the real "David and Goliath.
tthatsrightt 3 years ago
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6 Death to America, Democracy, and Israel!
Free Palestine. Nuke Israel!
Stop U.S. sending our pennies and dimes to fund Israeli crimes!
Open your borders America!
Join our struggle and support Socialism and Jihad!
Hiel Obama! Hiel Hamas, Hizbollah, and Iran! Hiel the Aryan race!
Join our protestors in the streets to help the children of Palestine!
We are the new majority in the USA and soon your families will all be slaughtered like dogs! George Bush can't save you nowa
sighielsiegfried88 3 years ago
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Israel is a Terrorist Nation...I am sick of this shit Israel killing Innocent and the weakest!
Israel is the only One and only jewish country, been breaching world's Piece from 60 years now US wont step up because our Media owned by our Politicians and US political interest in Israel!
Most Fucked up shit now, dirty Jews sitting behind the curtains even controlling you tube. You tube has been Deleting, Modifying and changing the view Counter on all the Video being played for or against Israel!!
G4ngst3r535 3 years ago
Excellant report.
It adds to the comon persons saying walking a mile in those shoes.
Supporting the Real News i feel more informed then glued to some Telivison Screen owned by a conflict of interest group who MFG munitions to the B1 Bomber.And sign Billos Paycheck.
cycimian 3 years ago
I'm siding with neither side. BUT, it seems stupid how 420 palestinians died, and 10-20 died from Israel...
Israel has the right to defend themselves but, I think this is just paranoia and racism. There's seriously something wrong with all of them. I do not mean to insult anyone, but I really do hope the governments mature and find a way to solve this huge issue. ... which may be never, because human nature is destructive at times, and extremely stubborn at times... we have to grow up.
xawesomexelix 3 years ago 2
100 billion PLUS american dollars support zionist regime and it's pogroms against palistine.
jnycnuk 3 years ago 2
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הגיע הזמן לעזוב,נתגלתה האמת של צה''ל ושהוא סתם צבא.אני מבקשת מכל חייל ישראלי לכתוב את צוואתו כי ,את הוריו, הוא לא יראה יותר
nowaraaa 3 years ago
Apparently the Saudi King is very Concerned about Muslum's in The Gaza,he would like to send AID..But only has Money!!
triumphelf 3 years ago
You are even hotter when you talk like that. 8======>
jiggakilla666 3 years ago
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I saw the videos and the news from Gaza 2008 of his ends 2009 of his fronts. I was crying.
I would like to see so many Zionist Israeli soldiers a hundred times in that manner in the dust and the blood, a death!
Let a god help in that manner. Amen.
yence1 3 years ago
I'm starting to hate the nation of Israel. Not Jews. But Israel.
YukiIsoya08 3 years ago 3
Israel= Inhumane and terorists
SEVDALIM1989 3 years ago 3
Israel = terrorists
IamJacksColon4 3 years ago 3
It is very easy when you are watching a segment on a situation & have NO clue as to what's truly going on in other Countries. In my opinion, because I don't know & I'm sure Many on this site don't know, I would think that anyone with empathy should only want it to STOP. WAR is not the answer & Why are we in IRAQ again? O.o
kpanther8u 3 years ago
Dirty comments from dirty people and clean comments from clean people.
jaedenahmed 3 years ago
If you are ever invaded fight back to the death.
jaedenahmed 3 years ago
I'm surprised normally people are peaceful in their reactions when invaded.
This is the reason for separation of church and state...oh and better education in talking with each other.
Give Palestine statehood and take away their main argument for attacks and aggressions, diplomatically take away the excuses so that reasonable and peaceful reasons can enter the fray.
It's ridiculous to argue any other cases. The tool of war for peace has yet to work, but for maybe a few cases in history. too few.
CaptBart 3 years ago
LOL
truthizfreedom 3 years ago
I couldn't resist breaking my own word but this case is "special";
Someone has to tell you.
You;re a mental defective. It's kind of sad.
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truthizfreedom 3 years ago
LOL!! He sure is bro!
rossyboy1000 3 years ago
You can pull a trigger and follow orders.... wow! Too bad you can't THINK.
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I'm sorry for you, I'm sorry you aren't capable of discussion - I'm sorry you don't have the "training" or "equipment" (to use terms you may be comfortable with) to have a discussion with me about world issues.
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I'll leave you with your eagerness to kill innocent people as I have no time for your ignorant and crude and weak minded comments, I'm busy these days.
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Buh Bye
truthizfreedom 3 years ago
Your zionist filth is spilling out.
You're a racist and you're crude.
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Justice is coming for you and your filthy kind.
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truthizfreedom 3 years ago
Why can't we just get over all of this god shit?
DiviAnteros 3 years ago
its not "god shit"
I mean it is not really a religious thing, I refuse to believe that.
LiesMustStop 3 years ago
This report fails to reveal the bigger picture: Israel does not treat the Palestinians as equals by withholding water, electricity, food, medicine, free-travel, etc. Hamas has come to the defense of the Palestinians by launching rockets into Israel. Israel retaliates by bombing targets and preparing ground forces. The solution has to start at the beginning--Israel must treat the Palestinians as equal citizens of the region, and the Palestinians must rebuke Hamas as an outside interference.
Kerkopes 3 years ago 3
I agree with your statements Kerkopes.
GrahamAndFriends 3 years ago
Any country should be allowed to defend itself, but goodness, how cant leaders understand that sending troops like indiscriminate thugs into another country that leads to high civilian body count is not smart.
Israel gets to look like aggressors against Palestinian civilians and this operation is supposed to do what? eliminate Hamas who'll only run, hide and wait for their turn?
cool70200 3 years ago
I think it takes allot of guts to be unarmed and fight against an army that is very very well equipped. You can call the palastanies terrorists or what ever, but to me they are freedom fighters. Israelis barricades them with walls after walls and check point in every 200 yeards. No food, fuel and medicine can enter the city. If you ask me is the Israelis that act like pussys with there f 15 gifts from the US. Some of you are just brainwashed test tube baby. wake up and smell it people.
300ZXturboXX 3 years ago 2
this guys says hes been there and seen that
no, even the people watching on tv know more then he does
get ur facts st8 dumbass
LebaneseBintt 3 years ago
is Hamas rfighting back at all? because they seem a bit outgunned here
WhoRonPaul 3 years ago
once they are out of their rat tunnels, israel will be out in the open with its tanks!
no idea how they are going fight with no armor shield, state of the art equipment and military vehicles :-D
JointBuster 3 years ago
its kinda hard to get weapons living in a caged-in ethnic ghetto where every time you try to build some weapons, Planes from the country keeping you in those ghettos bomb your factories. Maybe the USA should give 6$ billion in free loans to Gaza this decade instead of Israel.
pythag123 3 years ago
pyhag, UN wont support those barefooted monkeys, do you want US to support them!!?
please you make me laugh
JointBuster 3 years ago
This problem is minor both by land size and by casualty figures, as terrible as it may be. So what is the obsession with it compared to other conflicts as the one in Sudan or in Sri Lanka? Simple answer - anti-semitism. Which is also the root of the conflict. Holocaust. Hebron. Progroms. Charter of Hamas. The Real news isn't real - it's ultra leftist.
darkgeometry 3 years ago
America should give back all its land to the American Indias, the Spanish settlers in South america should give back all its land to the south american indios. The Australians should give back all its land to the Aboriginals. The Russians should give back all its expanded borders to the various people it supressed around its borders.
darkgeometry 3 years ago
What is this obsession by the world with israel and palestine? 20% of Israelis are Arab. There are precisely so many refugess because Israel does not massacre them the way other armies have massacred peoples. The Americans massacred the Indians. The Conquistadors massacred the Indios. The Japanese massacred the Chinese and Koreans. The Germans massacred the Jews and just about everyone else. The Russians massacred their own people and plenty of others.
darkgeometry 3 years ago
Think about it this way:
Someone takes your homeland, doesn't even take care of you, they get away with everything and you want your home back.
When you finally realise that there is nothing the world is gonna do about it, you pick up an AK-47 and you say "Fuck em, we'll do it ourselves". You are called a "Terrorist" by America and Israel.
Well i say this: If i was a Palestinian, i'd go on a rampage and blow the shit out of Israel as much as i can because thats the only thing that works
187Godhand2 3 years ago 4
I want my money back, NO AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS FOR ISRAEL
pseudolover 3 years ago 5
I agree. Use that money for a national health care system here or to better public schools, not to fund murder.
bootleg42 3 years ago 2
Israel has put the Palestinian Authorities into the position of policing the prison of Gaza for them. I am glad that the real news has shown that both real israeli's and real palestinians are against this invasion. Lebanon should have shown you can fight from the air, but as soon as you go in on the ground youll leave with your tail between your legs.
Drexxle 3 years ago
"Israel has put the Palestinian Authorities into the position of policing the prison of Gaza for them"
Hamas shares no blame for this?
l8rthen 3 years ago
"When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then understand that its devastation is approaching.
Luke 21:20
International Standard Version (©2008)
truthsabre7 3 years ago
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well." - Mark 16:16-18
Oops there goes the credibility of the bible, unless you'd like to drink poison
MuslimGhost 3 years ago 2
And the Muslim religion of peace? Where if you convert to Christianity is a death sentence? Mohamand the child pedofile?
'Aisha/Aesha/Aishah - 8 to 9 yrs old, 2nd wife.
truthsabre7 3 years ago
Truthsabre7:
That's some sects, not whole Islam. Stop parroting what you hear.
super3geo 3 years ago
were did you get your info? can you give me verses from Quran?
BTW in the middle ages all over the world, Arabia, Asia and yes even Europe people got married at age of puberty boys and girls, it was the norm, its historical fact, go to a library n do the research yourself.
why post a comment like this? are you trying to instigate something? your profile says your 54 yrs old, your an adult you should act like one
tatsukogarasu 3 years ago
"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every female child who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:15-18)
Oops look at that: Pedophilia in the Bible. No wonder you project your perversions unto others
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
What about Jesus did he marry a 9 year old and consummate it after her first period?
pythag123 3 years ago
What on earth are you talking about, pyfag?
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
pyfag, shut dop, you know nothing about israeli politics..silence makes you intelligent so be that way
JointBuster 3 years ago
Izrael politics? Its a fucking terrorist state!
krata77 3 years ago 2
DIPLOMACY, MY FRIEND, DIPLOMACY.
btw, the palestinian police isnt against israeli reprisal nowadays!
JointBuster 3 years ago
Really MuslimGhost? I'm sure we can find much more than this one passage that questions the credibility of scripture. Just as we can find any religious document subject when properly scrutinized.
All religions are irrational
Pleblian 3 years ago
You can find no passage that questions the credibility of Islam.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
MuslimGhost... Hmm, isn't Islam build on Christian/Judaic beliefs? Doesn't Islam refer to itself as the third Oasis.
And there are many Authors/Books that have subjected the Qur'an to examination which found it completely contradictory and I can find over 200 websites, dedicated, to exposing them.
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention
to the plank that is in your own eye?" (Matthew 7:3)
Pleblian 3 years ago
My dear Plebian your user name is well chosen as you appear to be poorly read and quite ignorant on the subject which you are disputing.
Islam isnt "built" on Christian/Judaic beliefs. It is the final, completed version of the same religion which has been revealed by the one and only God from the time the first human, Adam, walked the earth. God has only ever ordained ONE religion- Islam (submission to His will). I've never heard the third oasis comment, and nor does that make any sense.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
As for your alleged contradictions, I have looked into them myself. They are not contradictions, they are nothing more than the product of decievers who play around with the text. They take parts out of context or without their proper meaning, or they take literally what is metaphorical. This is a completely different thing from the Bible, where the contradictions are impossible to make sense of without creating a completely inconsistent text.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
MuslimGhost, Of coarse I will always be ignorant on the subject, especially when I don't agree with you, how convenient. I find all religions (Dogma) to be completely contradictory and irrational, which is replete though-out your post.
But my point was you're making an error in logic, pointing out the contradictions of the second "version" that your version is based on and that, my dear MuslimGhost, is a complete breakdown of reason.
Pleblian 3 years ago
Now now, lets not speak of logic and reason when you have not even read the Quran nor do you know the first thing about Islam. How logical or reasonable is it for someone who has never studied physics in their life to offer a critique of string theory?
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
There's no need to be an expert on Islam to critique its core premises. Even if its internal logic were sound, it is still built on comically bad starting principles.
vktrsx 3 years ago
The only thing comically bad is your intellect
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
On what do you base that assessment?
The starting premise of Islam is that there is a supernatural... STOP!
I need go no further, obviously. The concept of the supernatural is incoherent enough without elaborating on the various deities and other spooks.
vktrsx 3 years ago
Its called the unseen. Just as you have never seen your brain and yet you know its there. Nor have you seen atoms or the big bang but you accept it because its the most reasonable conclusion. If there was empiracal evidence it would not be a test of faith.
If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! (10:99)
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
It's not incoherent because it's unseen, but because it's supernatural. It's the very concept that is incoherent.
Allah could appear before me in a beam of light and I'd start looking behind him for the wiring. Even if I couldn't detect how the trick was done, I'd know that with enough research and time, I'd figure it out.
Not so with the supernatural. The supernatural can never be figured out, because it just ain't natural. And that's why the concept was invented: for unquestioned submission.
vktrsx 3 years ago 3
Not true. Let me give you an example.
Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day,- there are indeed Signs for men of understanding, (3:190)
At the time the Quran was written, right up until recently, the prevailing assumption was that the universe existed eternally. If this was so, then due to the number of stars present all around the earth, light from stars all across the universe would be reaching us right now at every point in the sky.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
This means that once the sun sets, every single point of the sky would have a point of light from a distant star that existed at some time and place in the universe. The result would be a sky that is always lit, both during the day and night. However, we see an alternation between the brightness of day, and the darkness of night. Therefore, the universe could not have existed eternally, and must be in flux. If it was not eternal, it was created. If it was created, it had a Creator.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
Sorry, I'm confused. What exactly have you refuted that I've said, and what is your quote an example of?
Let's not delve into questions of the universe, which neither of us can answer. We already know that this gives you trouble sleeping at night, so you find comfort in adult fairy tales. I sleep easy, because I know that people once thought thunder came from Thor's mighty hammer. We eventually figured that one out, and we'll continue to figure things out, while religion cedes ever more ground.
vktrsx 3 years ago
Ive just answered it, but you dont want to face the reality. And this is where science comes to a screeching halt. Because it has to promote the religion of materialism no matter what. So when faced with the evident realities of God's signs, they turn tail or come up with ridiculous theories like "multiverses". They claimed the universe was eternal right up until it was impossible to deny the big bang, because anything that's not eternal has a beginning and is acted upon by something else.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
Speaking of screeching halts, why don't you back up and answer my questions rather than continuing with your irrelevant anti-science tirade?
"What exactly have you refuted that I've said, and what is your quote an example of?"
And please address my point about the supernatural being -- by definition -- incoherent in relation to the natural universe.
vktrsx 3 years ago
Good luck. I've done this same battle with "True Believers" of every faith. Circular logic and ad hominem attacks are all you'll get. But, if you just want to hone your repertoire of insults, it is a grand way to while away the hours.
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
Muslim, you're changing the topic, as most believers in any religion do when faced with a critical assessment.
I don't need to read the Quran to point out the flaw in your algorithm, which is as follows: Quran is the answer, which has a flawed premise. And that is essentially what you're saying, It's that simple.
By the way, it's no longer referred to as "string theory", it's now "M theory".
keep-up!
Pleblian 3 years ago
Im not changing the topic my dear plebian, rather, it appears you lack the cranial capacity to understand similes and metaphors. In any case Im not going to argue with you since you do not know what you are arguing about. It would be like Steven Hawkings arguing about black holes with a three year old child that has down syndrome. Could you parse that simile, or will you again accuse me of changing the topic?
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
Pointless MuslimGhost, You resort to verbal illusions, fear and insults. You've yet to make an tangible argument, I thought better of you.
Pleblian 3 years ago
Im still waiting for your explanation of how you presume to argue about something you know nothing about. Maybe if you had something of substance to stand on, you would not be constantly resorting to ad hominem attacks and deductive fallacies built on unsound premises.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
Do ye not see that Allah has subjected to your (use) all things in the heavens and on earth, and has made his bounties flow to you in exceeding measure, (both) seen and unseen? Yet there are among men those who dispute about Allah, without knowledge and without guidance, and without a Book to enlighten them! (Quran 31:20)
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
Is this the one that was in reply to me (the Quran quotes)?
I hate the way YouTube threads discussions (using "thread" loosely).
Assuming so, I'll just say that when you quote the Quran or Bible or any other religious text, my eyes glaze over. (Is Allah doing that? If so I want to thank Him.)
vktrsx 3 years ago
"Real News" about the Palestinians told by a Jew. That's fair.
ArchaicRevivalx2012 3 years ago 2
Listen to him.
MarquisdeBarrabas 3 years ago
the land forces entered the Gaza about an hour ago, fighting between the forces and Hamas has been reported already, at least one Israeli killed.
Boomer1949 3 years ago
This is a war crime!
Felix1085 3 years ago 6
I try NOT to "hate".
That said, the Zionists control freaks are doing a VERY good job in making me hate the "jews" in occupied Palestine.
Even though I know that this is to fire me up to approve of the coming attacks on Israel so the U.S. can "legally" come to their defence and attack many middle east countries in preparation for the coming of planned world war 3, I can't help but PUKE when the mass media propaganda machine reports that 8