One time when i was walking in the shopping mall, i saw a girl who i like ^^ and this song automaticly started playing in my head... What an experience :)
One time when i was walking in the shopping mall, i saw a girl who i like ^^ and this song automaticly started playing in my head... What an experience :)
@cruelcore1 Technically Darwin has hell of great ideas, since he did the production on this one. Not taking shots at Michael, he's still an amazing producer, but the props for this song go to Darwin.
@ChrisHunter12345 I was referring to the vocal melody lol. I forgot to mention other things. Anyway, I know what it means to create a remake (tht everybody calls remix) and congratulations to Darwin!
@cruelcore1 No worries, wasn't trying to be rude, I just didn't know if you knew that Michael didn't actually put any work into this track. And actually, it IS a remix, a remake is when an artist remakes their own song at a later date. Like Hixxy, Sy & Unknown - Clit Commander 2011 is a remake of the original Clit Commander. When someone else does the song, then it's a remix. Once again, don't mean to be rude, just clarifying for you.
@ChrisHunter12345 I know but remix just sounds underestimating. i mean, many things can be considered remixes, from simple speedy mashups all the way to things like this. It has quite a wide meaning, and almost all people think its DJs' specific work. Not trying to be rude either.
@cruelcore1 Yeah I know, I was just letting you know the differance between a remix and a remake. A remake is always the same producer, and is basically just an updated version. Whereas a remix, like you said, can be just about anything.
@cruelcore1 No problem. I hope I didn't come off sounding douchey because that wasn't my intent, I just wanted to give you some more knowledge on the subject.
@cruelcore1 In rock music and such, yeah, but true cover's don't really exist in electronic music, because in electronic music, if you 100% recreate it, it will sound EXACTLY the same, whereas if you add your own touch to it, then it would become a remix. Even if a rock band recreates a song 100% with the exact same instruments, tuning, notes, and lyrics, it will still sound different because of the way that band plays stuff.. but if you 100% recreate an electronic song...
@cruelcore1 ...with the same VST's, same note pattern, etc. It will literally be the EXACT same song, because by not changing the VST, or EQing, or whatever, it's not like a guitar where every time you play something it sounds different. So once they change the VST, note pattern (not the melody per se, just the notes (how many are played, how quickly etc.)) or samples or whatever, it becomes a remix. Cover's in the truest sense don't really exist in electronic music, but a remix...
@cruelcore1 ...that is fairly similar with little tweaks and changes is pretty much a cover. There's no real exact definition that you can follow when it comes to remakes, remixes, covers etc when it comes to EDM (electronic dance music).
@ChrisHunter12345 In EDM you can make the cover track more different than in rock. because Rock will always use typical drums and guitars. And in EDM u can do whatever you want. Who says I'm gonna copy a track just to publish it as my remix or cover. Why wasting my time if I don't have my own vision of the track. :P
@cruelcore1 But that's what I mean, when you add your own touches to it, and use whatever VST's and samples you want, that right there is a remix, so a cover doesn't really exist, because what would be a cover in rock music, is a remix in EDM. Notice how rock music doesn't really have remixes... because in rock music, a remix is a cover. lol. They're basically the same thing, just with slightly different methods and names.
@ChrisHunter12345 Might be in tradition, but not in theory. By tradition, all EDM producers are actually DJs. Saying "remix" sounds far cooler to masses than "cover", just as "DJ" sounds much cooler than "producer".
Tradition is powerful stuff. If you're a producer, you can visit a typical highschool and try to explain those guys you are a PRODUCER more than a DJ, and that you mainly MAKE music, not mainly remix it. You might have already known how difficult it is. ;)
@cruelcore1 But being a DJ and being a producer is completely different. Not all producers are DJ's. Most are, but there are quite a few who have never touched a pair of decks.
Remixing song IS making music. Remixing isn't using turntables and shit, remixing songs is going into Cubase, Fruity Loops, Reason etc. and making your own song that uses parts of another (vocals, samples, melody etc.) When I say "I'm a producer" it also means "I remix tunes". I create original songs, and..
@cruelcore1 ...and I create remixes... both of those mean I'm a producer. I think you're confused a bit, and think that remixing has something to do with turntables and a mixer.. it doesn't. If I explain to someone that I'm a producer, it means I MAKE music, original music, and remixed music, remixed music being songs that take a concept from another song, it doesn't mean music I made with turntables and a mixer.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you have your terminology confused. DJ's...
@cruelcore1 ...make mixes, as in DJ mixes (mixing one track into another again and a gain for an hour or however long the mix is). DJ's don't make remixes, unless they are also a producer. Hope that clears some shit up for you.
Lol, I hate when people are talking about two different things, but the conversation works for a while until a certain point and then both people are like "wait, what?" As in this conversation.No fault of yours though, you just thought it meant something else
@ChrisHunter12345 I think you misunderstood me. I know the theory, but in practice people who don't know much about it will always call you a DJ. I know how annoying that is. I still can't explain my class that I'm not a DJ. I was talking from my own experience.
However, regarding remix, that's a pretty flexible noun. Because, since the beginning of time, a remix can be anything from an edit to a re-creation with only vocal from original track. I know how illogical it sounds.
@ChrisHunter12345 And once typical mainstream young person recognizes you as DJ, it's over. You can try to convince them with a shotgun, brainwash them, brainwash them and threat them with a shotgun in the same time, but you'll remain a DJ either til the rest of their life or til they decide to stop being that ignorant. And no matter how many respectable originals you make, there will always be "Still making mixes, dude?"
Real sorry for complaining, but I really hate when ppl ask me that. =)
@cruelcore1 Lol, we're both confusing each other to no end. I get you now though. I never really get people calling my productions mixes, even when they're remixes, people always just say "how are those tunes", or "any new productions". Though I do know a lot of people who are completely ignorant about EDM in general. Like, they'll call any song, whether it's hardcore, gabber, hardstyle, rave breaks, dubstep, etc. a trance or techno song. That bugs me so fucking much. Don't people...
@cruelcore1 ...understand that trance and techno are their own genre's and not overall terms for EDM? I guess not, lol. It's like calling black metal punk because they use guitars and drums. Sure, people use a computer and sequencer and VST's to make all EDM, but trance is about as similar to hardcore and hardstyle as punk is to grindcore (a type of metal). You'd think now adays, with the internet being so prevelant, that stereotype of calling all EDM techno/trance would stop..
@cruelcore1 ..but it's still as strong as ever. I love me some trance (mostyle psytrance and goa, but I like a lot of classic trance tunes), but techno is horrible, and I hate when people use that term when describing hardcore or gabber.
And lol, no worries, I can see how frustrating that would be.
@ChrisHunter12345 Well most of Hardcore scene is not enough ignorant to call everything a remix. Thank God.
And I see your point! Over here too everyone say Techno for every friggin EDM genre. And I know how simple Techno is. I'm sick of it too, but there's absolutely no hope for them. I talked to my producer-buddy about that and he's experiencing the same issue. I used to be one of them too but now I'm happy for knowing.
@ChrisHunter12345 I found many metalheads hating everything not related to Rock, but most of all "Techno" and Rap. In urbandictionary one dude submitted in his description of "Techno" that there's no point sorting EDM in genres because all EDM sound the same: all the same repetitive beating with nothing more; submitting repetitive a Techno as example. That's plenty of ignorance. One of their sayings is "Techno takes no skill." Well even TECHNO takes skill, and other EDM genres do plenty more.
@cruelcore1 People act like that towards all genres that they don't like. "Oh, rap doesn't take any skill, all it is is lyrics about money cars and women". Yet rap has the most deep, thought provoking lyrics of any genre. Yes, it has gangster rap, but it also has conscious rap/backpack rap, which is all about politics and social values and emotions. "Oh, metal takes no skill, its just random stumming and fast drums with dudes screaming". Except metal riffs and melodies are the...
@cruelcore1 ...hardest things to play out of any genre. Go take Zepellins lead guitarist. 100$ says he couldn't play a Cradle of Filth riff, or a Summoning riff, or take their drummer... I bet he couldn't play drums at 600bpm. "Oh, EDM takes no skill, it's just a computer, and it all sounds the same, it's all just crappy 4/4 beats with cheesy vocals". Well, technically, all music sounds the same on a very basic level. But hardcore, hardstyle, dubstep, and trance couldn't be more..
@cruelcore1 ...different if they tried. People are just so ignorant about stuff they don't like. I may not be a fan of classical or country (first and foremost I'm a rap/EDM fan, then punk/metal coming up 3rd and 4th), but I still recognize that it takes skill. Especially classical. Piano masterpieces can take YEARS to perfect. I try to be knowledgeable about stuff, even if I don't like it, so that I don't sound as ignorant as the people who hate on rap and EDM.You seem that way too.
@ChrisHunter12345 I completely agree with your point. Finally someone talking for something they don't like.
Those people were told it all sounds the same and shown the simplest Techno track. I saw EDM fan writing "try to make decent electronic yourself", but what use of it when they see it in even simpler shape than real Techno? I remembering a guy looping a random scratch sound writing "I made this Techno in 2 minutes and it took no skill."
@cruelcore1 *facepalm* Any idiot can go into fruity loops, grab a random sample and loop it over and over again. Producing a real EDM track can take upwards of 24-48 hours. Now, not every song will take that long, some songs you can belt out in a few hours, but something that has a lot of layers to it, and isn't just stock samples, and stock VST presets can take quite a long time. People think that just because I'm placing drum samples/midi keys instead of strumming an instrument...
@cruelcore1 ..that it takes any less time to get just right. I don't even use the keyroll when using midi keys.. I use my keyboard to play all the notes, and then I'll go into the keyroll if anything is off time. I've also seen so many people be like "Wow, that songs so simplistic, I could make it in 20 minutes", and then I''ve found them a torrent for fruity loops, and they've attempted to make a track and have given up after 20 minutes lol. I play guitar, so I'm not just talking..
@cruelcore1 ..out my ass when I say this, but it takes MUCH longer to learn how to produce using Cubase or Reason then it does to play guitar well. It took me two years before my songs sounded as professional as tracks by say Hixxy, Darren Styles, Tiesto etc. Sure, it didn't take me that long to actually learn how to produce a track, but to make it sound completely polished and professional it takes time. After 6 months of playing guitar I could play songs just as well as..
@cruelcore1 ..Metallica or Led Zeppelin. It wouldn't sound like some kid playing in his room missing every other note, it sounded perfect, exactly like they would play it. So really, mastering how to learn to produce EDM takes much more time and effort then it does any other genre. Even more so, because while playing a guitar, almost right away, you see yourself improving, and you can tell you're getting somewhere. Whereas the first 2 months of producing EDM everything you make...
@cruelcore1 ...will be out of time and not on beat, and you will get quite frustrated because you won't be able to make anything sound professional, or any of the layers sound like they're together as one, if that makes sense. Everything will sound out of place.. the drums will be too loud/bassy, the melodies won't sound smooth, or like they actually fit in, the strings will be.. well, you get the point lol. It wont sound like a complete piece of music or a real song, it will just...
@ChrisHunter12345 Dude, you're a guitar talent, because for some people it takes years to master guitar that well. And oh yeah, I know what you're talking about when it comes to EDM. I had times when I lost all hope for my music production skills, and then I got better, and even now Im still getting better.
Anyone can loop a random sound in FL you say? Well, even init project makes people dizzy. And I remember showing people my complete projects in whole. They were terrified XD.
@ChrisHunter12345 And those shallow minded dudes don't even think. They were just told bad things about EDM and kept on believing. You can show them plenty of Mozart-like examples, but they will still think the same. Worst dudes will think of an explanation to crap on it even if you thoroughly show and explain them an entire pro project.
@cruelcore1 Exactly. And their explanations will never be anything other than "oh, it's not a real instrument", or "it's all the same sounding stuff". Like I said, all music is the same on it's simplest levels. EDM, rock, rap, metal, punk etc. all have intros, outros, choruses, verses, bridges etc. Each song varies in structure, but hardcore and trance are no more the same than punk and RnB. And yeah, I'd rather have some ignorant fuck at least try and explain why EDM sucks...
@cruelcore1 ...(even if they're talking out their ass and have no idea what they're talking about) then someone who dislikes it purely because they've been told by their parents/friends/teachers that it's simple childish music. It's all music, whether people use a guitar, a computer, a banjo, or even a spoon, if it's a sound with melody, then it's music. People need to realise that and not just stick with the notion that only genres that existed before 1980 are real music.
Do you often hear Hardcore people hating modern styles? Cause I do. What do u think about that? Myself, I prefer if old styles existed same as any other Hardcore subgenre, eventhough I dislike it. I'm into 2003-2009 style. I'm against underestimating modern and I think people shouldn't judge Hardcore forms into better and worse.
@cruelcore1 It depends on who you ask. A lot of the oldschool ravers or hardcore fans hate anything created past 1997 and only love that breakbeat stuff, and while I love the classics too, and that stuff will always have a special place in my heart, you can't just let a genre stagnate. It had to evolve, and it evolved in a good way imo. Now, lately (2010-2012), I feel it's took a turn for the worse with this minimilist electrocore approach that Sy & Unknown, Breeze & Styles, Hixxy...
@cruelcore1 ...Dougal, Gammer etc. are doing, but there have definitely been some really amazing tunes in the past 15 years. If you haven't checked out the Hardcore Underground series definitely give it a try (buy, dont download, gotta support the artists lol). Every mix on all 5 volumes has been a 10/10 mix ranging from breakbeat, freeform, upfront, ukcore, some gabber thrown in, even some bouncy techno. They're kind of a spiritual successor to Bonkers, which ended at 17 (I dont...
@cruelcore1 ....count the stupid Bonkers album that All Around The World (an EDM label) released). It was horrible, and sounded just like the Clubland albums. Imo hardcore has been consistently great ever since it's inception, and people who are stuck in the past seem to be hating the new stuff not because it's bad, but because it's new, and not what they grew up with. I love the old stuff as much as the next guy, it's what I grew up with as well, but you have to move forward...
@cruelcore1 ...and people always ask "why not release music that sounded like the mid 90's", and I just think that if they want mid 90's sounding music, then go listen to mid-90's music, the new stuff doesn't need to sounbd like that because there's hundreds of thousands of tracks that already sound like that. There's so many classics that you'll never get bored of it. But then there's also new hardcore fans who HATE stuff released pre-2000, and they have to learn how to respect...
@cruelcore1 ...where the genre came from. Without Slippmat, without Billy Daniel Bunter, without 3 Steps Ahead we wouldn't have Orbit 1 or Darwin or Fracus.
And sorry, what's dubcore? Is it a mix of dubstep and hardcore? Because I've heard a few tracks that have gone that route but I didn't know it had gotten big enough to become it's own genre. Is it basically like dubstyle (which is a mix between dubstep and hardstyle)?
@ChrisHunter12345 Though, I understand their frustration a bit. Hands Up scene lost much popularity, and everything is crowded with pop-ish stuff nowadays. There are still some badass stuff, but also plenty stuff that should be called Phatt Pop instead. Problem is I really miss those middle times with, in one hand happier n more childish sound, in other hands darker and pimp-ish style.
As for hardcore, 2003-2009 style will hold on for a while. and comm Dubcore could die in a few years, some say.
@cruelcore1 And yeah, I miss early 2000's hardcore, where everything was original and new. There's still original stuff coming out nowadays, but with the internet being as big as it is, and everyone being able to download Cubase or Reason for free you get a lot of horrible generic hardcore that would never get released on vinyl or on iTunes. Back then if you wanted to produce you had to put a lot of money into it so that gave you incentive to make good and original tracks.
@ChrisHunter12345 Dubcore is a mixture of Dubstep and Hardcore that got popular on its commercial level. You & I by Darren Styles is commecial Dubcore for example.
I believe piracy is bad, but plenty of new artists wouldn't get slightest chance of proving their talent. Do you know how much time it took to convince my mother she should allow me to use paypal? And right now Im like €30 per 3-4 months.
@ChrisHunter12345 I'm happy I can BUY HC music, Im almost always buying digital legally ever since I was capable to, and Im still WAITING to get cash for Hardcore Underground 5. My trackitdown(dot)net buy list is full and with this specific internet allowance rate I'll never be able to empty it. And I'm a picky guy so you can assume that my list is not quite long.
Piracy is bad indeed, but legal internet life is faaar more difficult than what most of HC scene thinks, even in developed countries.
Just got say love this song and it works so well with this video and thanks for uploading as I just bought Ah my goddess just by watching yuor video so thank you for that lol but great video and song well done
very very very recently getting into hardcore (less than a month a mate introduced me into this amazing world lol) and this is my favourite track ive heard so far out of about 50ish. Its amazing, now i need to sort out going to a full on rave and see how much i can enjoy myself!! :D
Michael Mansion seems to get better and better with the writing of his songs. Then u have Darwin who seems to be one of the best hardcore remixers out there at the minute. People say Darwin has the potential to be the best hardcore remixer, How far does he have to go, if you check most of his mixes there all quality.
Just saw this in the AMV Contest over here in Anime Expo! I made sure to write down the name of the song so I could do a search on it but I wasn't expecting be seeing the same AMV as well! Such an awesome music video for an awesome song!
WHAT ANIME IS THIS!?
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One time when i was walking in the shopping mall, i saw a girl who i like ^^ and this song automaticly started playing in my head... What an experience :)
kyrojoki 1 month ago
One time when i was walking in the shopping mall, i saw a girl who i like ^^ and this song automaticly started playing in my head... What an experience :)
kyrojoki 1 month ago
I love this AMV and I think it suits great ^^
cruelcore1 4 months ago
Holy fuck I love this track :D Michael Mansion has the hell of great ideas!
cruelcore1 4 months ago
@cruelcore1 Technically Darwin has hell of great ideas, since he did the production on this one. Not taking shots at Michael, he's still an amazing producer, but the props for this song go to Darwin.
ChrisHunter12345 1 month ago
@ChrisHunter12345 I was referring to the vocal melody lol. I forgot to mention other things. Anyway, I know what it means to create a remake (tht everybody calls remix) and congratulations to Darwin!
cruelcore1 1 month ago
@cruelcore1 No worries, wasn't trying to be rude, I just didn't know if you knew that Michael didn't actually put any work into this track. And actually, it IS a remix, a remake is when an artist remakes their own song at a later date. Like Hixxy, Sy & Unknown - Clit Commander 2011 is a remake of the original Clit Commander. When someone else does the song, then it's a remix. Once again, don't mean to be rude, just clarifying for you.
ChrisHunter12345 1 month ago
@ChrisHunter12345 I know but remix just sounds underestimating. i mean, many things can be considered remixes, from simple speedy mashups all the way to things like this. It has quite a wide meaning, and almost all people think its DJs' specific work. Not trying to be rude either.
cruelcore1 1 month ago
@cruelcore1 Yeah I know, I was just letting you know the differance between a remix and a remake. A remake is always the same producer, and is basically just an updated version. Whereas a remix, like you said, can be just about anything.
ChrisHunter12345 1 month ago
@ChrisHunter12345 OK thnx dude =)
cruelcore1 1 month ago
@cruelcore1 No problem. I hope I didn't come off sounding douchey because that wasn't my intent, I just wanted to give you some more knowledge on the subject.
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 No, it's OK. Thank you for information. And I recently heard that if you 100% re-create the track it's properly called "cover".
cruelcore1 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 In rock music and such, yeah, but true cover's don't really exist in electronic music, because in electronic music, if you 100% recreate it, it will sound EXACTLY the same, whereas if you add your own touch to it, then it would become a remix. Even if a rock band recreates a song 100% with the exact same instruments, tuning, notes, and lyrics, it will still sound different because of the way that band plays stuff.. but if you 100% recreate an electronic song...
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...with the same VST's, same note pattern, etc. It will literally be the EXACT same song, because by not changing the VST, or EQing, or whatever, it's not like a guitar where every time you play something it sounds different. So once they change the VST, note pattern (not the melody per se, just the notes (how many are played, how quickly etc.)) or samples or whatever, it becomes a remix. Cover's in the truest sense don't really exist in electronic music, but a remix...
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...that is fairly similar with little tweaks and changes is pretty much a cover. There's no real exact definition that you can follow when it comes to remakes, remixes, covers etc when it comes to EDM (electronic dance music).
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 In EDM you can make the cover track more different than in rock. because Rock will always use typical drums and guitars. And in EDM u can do whatever you want. Who says I'm gonna copy a track just to publish it as my remix or cover. Why wasting my time if I don't have my own vision of the track. :P
cruelcore1 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 But that's what I mean, when you add your own touches to it, and use whatever VST's and samples you want, that right there is a remix, so a cover doesn't really exist, because what would be a cover in rock music, is a remix in EDM. Notice how rock music doesn't really have remixes... because in rock music, a remix is a cover. lol. They're basically the same thing, just with slightly different methods and names.
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 Might be in tradition, but not in theory. By tradition, all EDM producers are actually DJs. Saying "remix" sounds far cooler to masses than "cover", just as "DJ" sounds much cooler than "producer".
Tradition is powerful stuff. If you're a producer, you can visit a typical highschool and try to explain those guys you are a PRODUCER more than a DJ, and that you mainly MAKE music, not mainly remix it. You might have already known how difficult it is. ;)
cruelcore1 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 But being a DJ and being a producer is completely different. Not all producers are DJ's. Most are, but there are quite a few who have never touched a pair of decks.
Remixing song IS making music. Remixing isn't using turntables and shit, remixing songs is going into Cubase, Fruity Loops, Reason etc. and making your own song that uses parts of another (vocals, samples, melody etc.) When I say "I'm a producer" it also means "I remix tunes". I create original songs, and..
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...and I create remixes... both of those mean I'm a producer. I think you're confused a bit, and think that remixing has something to do with turntables and a mixer.. it doesn't. If I explain to someone that I'm a producer, it means I MAKE music, original music, and remixed music, remixed music being songs that take a concept from another song, it doesn't mean music I made with turntables and a mixer.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you have your terminology confused. DJ's...
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...make mixes, as in DJ mixes (mixing one track into another again and a gain for an hour or however long the mix is). DJ's don't make remixes, unless they are also a producer. Hope that clears some shit up for you.
Lol, I hate when people are talking about two different things, but the conversation works for a while until a certain point and then both people are like "wait, what?" As in this conversation.No fault of yours though, you just thought it meant something else
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 I think you misunderstood me. I know the theory, but in practice people who don't know much about it will always call you a DJ. I know how annoying that is. I still can't explain my class that I'm not a DJ. I was talking from my own experience.
However, regarding remix, that's a pretty flexible noun. Because, since the beginning of time, a remix can be anything from an edit to a re-creation with only vocal from original track. I know how illogical it sounds.
cruelcore1 3 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 And once typical mainstream young person recognizes you as DJ, it's over. You can try to convince them with a shotgun, brainwash them, brainwash them and threat them with a shotgun in the same time, but you'll remain a DJ either til the rest of their life or til they decide to stop being that ignorant. And no matter how many respectable originals you make, there will always be "Still making mixes, dude?"
Real sorry for complaining, but I really hate when ppl ask me that. =)
cruelcore1 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 Lol, we're both confusing each other to no end. I get you now though. I never really get people calling my productions mixes, even when they're remixes, people always just say "how are those tunes", or "any new productions". Though I do know a lot of people who are completely ignorant about EDM in general. Like, they'll call any song, whether it's hardcore, gabber, hardstyle, rave breaks, dubstep, etc. a trance or techno song. That bugs me so fucking much. Don't people...
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...understand that trance and techno are their own genre's and not overall terms for EDM? I guess not, lol. It's like calling black metal punk because they use guitars and drums. Sure, people use a computer and sequencer and VST's to make all EDM, but trance is about as similar to hardcore and hardstyle as punk is to grindcore (a type of metal). You'd think now adays, with the internet being so prevelant, that stereotype of calling all EDM techno/trance would stop..
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ..but it's still as strong as ever. I love me some trance (mostyle psytrance and goa, but I like a lot of classic trance tunes), but techno is horrible, and I hate when people use that term when describing hardcore or gabber.
And lol, no worries, I can see how frustrating that would be.
ChrisHunter12345 3 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 Well most of Hardcore scene is not enough ignorant to call everything a remix. Thank God.
And I see your point! Over here too everyone say Techno for every friggin EDM genre. And I know how simple Techno is. I'm sick of it too, but there's absolutely no hope for them. I talked to my producer-buddy about that and he's experiencing the same issue. I used to be one of them too but now I'm happy for knowing.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 I found many metalheads hating everything not related to Rock, but most of all "Techno" and Rap. In urbandictionary one dude submitted in his description of "Techno" that there's no point sorting EDM in genres because all EDM sound the same: all the same repetitive beating with nothing more; submitting repetitive a Techno as example. That's plenty of ignorance. One of their sayings is "Techno takes no skill." Well even TECHNO takes skill, and other EDM genres do plenty more.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 People act like that towards all genres that they don't like. "Oh, rap doesn't take any skill, all it is is lyrics about money cars and women". Yet rap has the most deep, thought provoking lyrics of any genre. Yes, it has gangster rap, but it also has conscious rap/backpack rap, which is all about politics and social values and emotions. "Oh, metal takes no skill, its just random stumming and fast drums with dudes screaming". Except metal riffs and melodies are the...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...hardest things to play out of any genre. Go take Zepellins lead guitarist. 100$ says he couldn't play a Cradle of Filth riff, or a Summoning riff, or take their drummer... I bet he couldn't play drums at 600bpm. "Oh, EDM takes no skill, it's just a computer, and it all sounds the same, it's all just crappy 4/4 beats with cheesy vocals". Well, technically, all music sounds the same on a very basic level. But hardcore, hardstyle, dubstep, and trance couldn't be more..
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...different if they tried. People are just so ignorant about stuff they don't like. I may not be a fan of classical or country (first and foremost I'm a rap/EDM fan, then punk/metal coming up 3rd and 4th), but I still recognize that it takes skill. Especially classical. Piano masterpieces can take YEARS to perfect. I try to be knowledgeable about stuff, even if I don't like it, so that I don't sound as ignorant as the people who hate on rap and EDM.You seem that way too.
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 I completely agree with your point. Finally someone talking for something they don't like.
Those people were told it all sounds the same and shown the simplest Techno track. I saw EDM fan writing "try to make decent electronic yourself", but what use of it when they see it in even simpler shape than real Techno? I remembering a guy looping a random scratch sound writing "I made this Techno in 2 minutes and it took no skill."
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 *facepalm* Any idiot can go into fruity loops, grab a random sample and loop it over and over again. Producing a real EDM track can take upwards of 24-48 hours. Now, not every song will take that long, some songs you can belt out in a few hours, but something that has a lot of layers to it, and isn't just stock samples, and stock VST presets can take quite a long time. People think that just because I'm placing drum samples/midi keys instead of strumming an instrument...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ..that it takes any less time to get just right. I don't even use the keyroll when using midi keys.. I use my keyboard to play all the notes, and then I'll go into the keyroll if anything is off time. I've also seen so many people be like "Wow, that songs so simplistic, I could make it in 20 minutes", and then I''ve found them a torrent for fruity loops, and they've attempted to make a track and have given up after 20 minutes lol. I play guitar, so I'm not just talking..
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ..out my ass when I say this, but it takes MUCH longer to learn how to produce using Cubase or Reason then it does to play guitar well. It took me two years before my songs sounded as professional as tracks by say Hixxy, Darren Styles, Tiesto etc. Sure, it didn't take me that long to actually learn how to produce a track, but to make it sound completely polished and professional it takes time. After 6 months of playing guitar I could play songs just as well as..
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ..Metallica or Led Zeppelin. It wouldn't sound like some kid playing in his room missing every other note, it sounded perfect, exactly like they would play it. So really, mastering how to learn to produce EDM takes much more time and effort then it does any other genre. Even more so, because while playing a guitar, almost right away, you see yourself improving, and you can tell you're getting somewhere. Whereas the first 2 months of producing EDM everything you make...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...will be out of time and not on beat, and you will get quite frustrated because you won't be able to make anything sound professional, or any of the layers sound like they're together as one, if that makes sense. Everything will sound out of place.. the drums will be too loud/bassy, the melodies won't sound smooth, or like they actually fit in, the strings will be.. well, you get the point lol. It wont sound like a complete piece of music or a real song, it will just...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...like abunch of different layers of sounds placed on top of each other.
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 Dude, you're a guitar talent, because for some people it takes years to master guitar that well. And oh yeah, I know what you're talking about when it comes to EDM. I had times when I lost all hope for my music production skills, and then I got better, and even now Im still getting better.
Anyone can loop a random sound in FL you say? Well, even init project makes people dizzy. And I remember showing people my complete projects in whole. They were terrified XD.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 And those shallow minded dudes don't even think. They were just told bad things about EDM and kept on believing. You can show them plenty of Mozart-like examples, but they will still think the same. Worst dudes will think of an explanation to crap on it even if you thoroughly show and explain them an entire pro project.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 Exactly. And their explanations will never be anything other than "oh, it's not a real instrument", or "it's all the same sounding stuff". Like I said, all music is the same on it's simplest levels. EDM, rock, rap, metal, punk etc. all have intros, outros, choruses, verses, bridges etc. Each song varies in structure, but hardcore and trance are no more the same than punk and RnB. And yeah, I'd rather have some ignorant fuck at least try and explain why EDM sucks...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...(even if they're talking out their ass and have no idea what they're talking about) then someone who dislikes it purely because they've been told by their parents/friends/teachers that it's simple childish music. It's all music, whether people use a guitar, a computer, a banjo, or even a spoon, if it's a sound with melody, then it's music. People need to realise that and not just stick with the notion that only genres that existed before 1980 are real music.
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 Of course =)
Do you often hear Hardcore people hating modern styles? Cause I do. What do u think about that? Myself, I prefer if old styles existed same as any other Hardcore subgenre, eventhough I dislike it. I'm into 2003-2009 style. I'm against underestimating modern and I think people shouldn't judge Hardcore forms into better and worse.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 It depends on who you ask. A lot of the oldschool ravers or hardcore fans hate anything created past 1997 and only love that breakbeat stuff, and while I love the classics too, and that stuff will always have a special place in my heart, you can't just let a genre stagnate. It had to evolve, and it evolved in a good way imo. Now, lately (2010-2012), I feel it's took a turn for the worse with this minimilist electrocore approach that Sy & Unknown, Breeze & Styles, Hixxy...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...Dougal, Gammer etc. are doing, but there have definitely been some really amazing tunes in the past 15 years. If you haven't checked out the Hardcore Underground series definitely give it a try (buy, dont download, gotta support the artists lol). Every mix on all 5 volumes has been a 10/10 mix ranging from breakbeat, freeform, upfront, ukcore, some gabber thrown in, even some bouncy techno. They're kind of a spiritual successor to Bonkers, which ended at 17 (I dont...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ....count the stupid Bonkers album that All Around The World (an EDM label) released). It was horrible, and sounded just like the Clubland albums. Imo hardcore has been consistently great ever since it's inception, and people who are stuck in the past seem to be hating the new stuff not because it's bad, but because it's new, and not what they grew up with. I love the old stuff as much as the next guy, it's what I grew up with as well, but you have to move forward...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...and people always ask "why not release music that sounded like the mid 90's", and I just think that if they want mid 90's sounding music, then go listen to mid-90's music, the new stuff doesn't need to sounbd like that because there's hundreds of thousands of tracks that already sound like that. There's so many classics that you'll never get bored of it. But then there's also new hardcore fans who HATE stuff released pre-2000, and they have to learn how to respect...
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 ...where the genre came from. Without Slippmat, without Billy Daniel Bunter, without 3 Steps Ahead we wouldn't have Orbit 1 or Darwin or Fracus.
And sorry, what's dubcore? Is it a mix of dubstep and hardcore? Because I've heard a few tracks that have gone that route but I didn't know it had gotten big enough to become it's own genre. Is it basically like dubstyle (which is a mix between dubstep and hardstyle)?
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 Though, I understand their frustration a bit. Hands Up scene lost much popularity, and everything is crowded with pop-ish stuff nowadays. There are still some badass stuff, but also plenty stuff that should be called Phatt Pop instead. Problem is I really miss those middle times with, in one hand happier n more childish sound, in other hands darker and pimp-ish style.
As for hardcore, 2003-2009 style will hold on for a while. and comm Dubcore could die in a few years, some say.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@cruelcore1 And yeah, I miss early 2000's hardcore, where everything was original and new. There's still original stuff coming out nowadays, but with the internet being as big as it is, and everyone being able to download Cubase or Reason for free you get a lot of horrible generic hardcore that would never get released on vinyl or on iTunes. Back then if you wanted to produce you had to put a lot of money into it so that gave you incentive to make good and original tracks.
ChrisHunter12345 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 Dubcore is a mixture of Dubstep and Hardcore that got popular on its commercial level. You & I by Darren Styles is commecial Dubcore for example.
I believe piracy is bad, but plenty of new artists wouldn't get slightest chance of proving their talent. Do you know how much time it took to convince my mother she should allow me to use paypal? And right now Im like €30 per 3-4 months.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 I'm happy I can BUY HC music, Im almost always buying digital legally ever since I was capable to, and Im still WAITING to get cash for Hardcore Underground 5. My trackitdown(dot)net buy list is full and with this specific internet allowance rate I'll never be able to empty it. And I'm a picky guy so you can assume that my list is not quite long.
Piracy is bad indeed, but legal internet life is faaar more difficult than what most of HC scene thinks, even in developed countries.
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
@ChrisHunter12345 BTW many discuss new Dubcore. What do you think about it?
cruelcore1 2 weeks ago
Xtremely Amazing!!
AngelChronoX77 5 months ago
I keep hearing kefkas laugh somewhere in there
toddrocks 11 months ago
such a beautiful song :)
Daniel45428 11 months ago
@DjMaidenV Thank you for that info
fires1the1skys 11 months ago
fucking win
foghorn2002 11 months ago
One question who did the vocals to this as I think she got great voice also was there ever an orignal version basicly I mean un-mixed version ??
fires1the1skys 1 year ago
Just got say love this song and it works so well with this video and thanks for uploading as I just bought Ah my goddess just by watching yuor video so thank you for that lol but great video and song well done
fires1the1skys 1 year ago
The definition of a feel-good video right here
DjMaidenV 1 year ago
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DjMaidenV 1 year ago
Memories.. =)
MannyGiovanni 1 year ago
Man when I heard this I was bloooooooown away.
flizzoforizzo 1 year ago
Beautiful
Galapagosz 1 year ago 3
sick
mattxrag3 1 year ago
thumbs up if u think hardcore+anime=win
djalex27576 1 year ago 6
so friking beautiful this is epic x100
darkland8 1 year ago
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mistycpanda 1 year ago
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mistycpanda 1 year ago
darwin owns all,the best out right now,check out my channel for tons of hardcore hits.
mattxrag3 1 year ago
its gotta be pretty epic to watch this video fucked on pills..... awesome tune aswell
kwazi009 1 year ago 2
@kwazi009 it is.lmao
mattxrag3 1 year ago
very very very recently getting into hardcore (less than a month a mate introduced me into this amazing world lol) and this is my favourite track ive heard so far out of about 50ish. Its amazing, now i need to sort out going to a full on rave and see how much i can enjoy myself!! :D
qprmanzz 1 year ago
amazing
Camundonguinho 1 year ago
Best Hardcore song for years!
Best Youtube video ever!
Thank you! :)
ameasureofpipps 1 year ago
what anime is this?
tntbrett 2 years ago
@tntbrett lovestruck radiance
angrydoomkitty 2 years ago
wtf??? ARE YOU THE REAL MICHAEL MANSION????????
YOUMADAFAKA 2 years ago
like i said anime looks boring
but damn your editing skills are pro!!
very very pro!
YOUMADAFAKA 2 years ago
the editor is kisanzi >.>
theholyman 2 years ago
i can't stop watching this. it's just so good, the track and video are perfect, what a wonderful piece of art. thank you for posting.
neurocrater 2 years ago
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neurocrater 2 years ago
anime looks boring
but it fits so perfect with the song
YOUMADAFAKA 2 years ago 2
awesome choon :D
xXDemonDriftZxX 2 years ago
5 stars and favourited :)
Fingazmc 2 years ago
This is incredible. Both the video and the track. Great work Michael and Darwin!
MightOfTheSun 2 years ago 8
This is incredible!!! the AMV and Track is jsut Epic Keep it up :)
animemike24 2 years ago 5
Michael Mansion seems to get better and better with the writing of his songs. Then u have Darwin who seems to be one of the best hardcore remixers out there at the minute. People say Darwin has the potential to be the best hardcore remixer, How far does he have to go, if you check most of his mixes there all quality.
cutupboys 2 years ago 5
darwin IS the best, from what i hear.
holyshititsme 2 years ago 3
normally i don't like AMVs, but i love this song and the editing was very fitting
djburst 2 years ago 4
I swear Michael Mansion has the best women vocals in his tracks
dominickd16 2 years ago 5
FYI everyone, this tune is getting a vinyl release in the month of May under the Hardcore Underground label. Its going to be massive!
Rewind690 2 years ago 5
Well you can get it on CD and best of all 1411 > Vinyl.
adamaniax 2 years ago
Sure you can, but its not DJ friendly.
Rewind690 2 years ago
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TheBertoEffect 3 years ago
anime looks gay =/. class tune bit!
TheBertoEffect 3 years ago
beautiful!! Darwin is one of the best hardcore Dj's out there!!
ukGhostuk 3 years ago 32
Don't forget Michael Mansion!
madhatter666666 3 years ago 25
OMG . . . . .
im lovin this vid
the music and the anime
just simple perfect
Piscesheart84 3 years ago 4
Very good cant wait for HU3
alex000alex000 3 years ago 3
This song well touches me its ridiculous...the lyrics give me shivers!
crazycatlaa 3 years ago 3
Maybe its cause of the anime also :P
The song stargazer, cant think who it's by, touches me :) XD
XQlus1v3 3 years ago 3
Stargazer is by Entity, thats a top tune.
Rewind690 2 years ago 5
quality tune! Mansion has some awesome releases out its unreal!!!
Pikey72 3 years ago
Wow I love it! very beautiful remix and great AMV
AlexStar456 3 years ago
has any1 got an mp3 link for this?
djkevno1 3 years ago
From what I hear, it wont be released until Hardcore Underground 3 comes out. Sometime after it should come out.
Rewind690 3 years ago
Amazing!
JUNAUTOWORKS 3 years ago
This song is one of the best EVER in hardcore. Those vocals and those lyrics are to die for! Also totally love 2:26, that explosion fits so great!
Eryxian 3 years ago
OMG!!!! what can u say about this kind of perfektion
Lambotard 3 years ago
omg i saw michael mansion on july 19 in nashville tn too !!! it was amazing!!!!!!!!!!
sillymangohead 3 years ago 4
i was there too. i like th song, so made note of it to search it.
supdragracer 3 years ago 5
Just saw this in the AMV Contest over here in Anime Expo! I made sure to write down the name of the song so I could do a search on it but I wasn't expecting be seeing the same AMV as well! Such an awesome music video for an awesome song!
PlaneFreak 3 years ago 4
Seeing Michael on July 19th in Nashville, TN!
starboy57 3 years ago 4
haha nice stuff hope u thanked kisanzi good ^^
keep making sweet songs man ^^
theholyman 3 years ago 5
Oh my god! I love it! the song ! and the video too!!
Michael Mansion Lover! But i dont know how y can get your music , im from chile!!
;__;!
well , greetings!
bye bye!
Hideki1316 3 years ago 5