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  • This is trying to explain this fact.. Your limited with Iphone or mac. And it sucks

  • Flash or not...Apple forces Itunes down your throat so any High End Android device will kick Apple's ass. The day they dump Itunes and make bt connection to all devices and cut prizes, there is a very small chance I will buy Apple again.

  • @SarahSaysSo1 It doesn't get viruses

  • ... All these interpreters and VMs are banned by Apple's iOS developer agreement: "No interpreted code may be downloaded or used in an Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple’s Documented APIs and built-in interpreter(s)." I don't understand how people just zero in on Flash and ignore the fact that this all comes down to Apple wanting you to get all their apps through the iStore. They're not even supporting HTML5/JS for application development.

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  • So not only Flash sucks, Java sucks, Python sucks, Lua sucks, Unity sucks, pretty much every client-side interpreter/VM on the web except *drumroll* JavaScript!

  • Fuck apple and fuck you too.

  • Lol I love you

  • i just can't believe there are people who believe this shit. flash is as stable as a rock.. when using it on a decent os. apple wants to control your live!

    i don't want that. that's why i'm not buying theri over priced products

  • @gyselph Flash apps tend to leak resources. Chris has a point. But he's missing the fact that JavaScript isn't so hot and Apple bans all kinds of other things like Java, Mono, not just Flash.

  • Couldn't apple make their own version of flash?

  • You dumbass. This is the most lame video i've seen. Apple doesn't have flash on their mobile apps simply because they regulate every app via their App store and flash is just that. Anyone can create an app using flash and post it on their site that can be accessed anytime, anywhere which defeats the purpose of Apple's App Store. Stupid ass.

  • Because mac os is piece of shit!

    Ps: those people that reply me, Saying bad about me, you can go die and go fuck yourself, fuck Mac!!!!! Use pc, you piece of shit Mac lover fan boy, btw Mac products is too overprice and only good for editing things(Photoshop and etc), but of cause I can use a $500 pc system to edit those shit too.

  • I have a iPhone 4s that can't get adobe flash, so what other options do I have on my iPhone.(without jail breaking). What I'm trying to say is there any other downloads or apps that will take its place when I'm asked to install adobe flash player. Thank You

  • iphone doesnt have flash because they dont want you to listen to music online that you never paid for. watch videos that you never paid for.

  • "It breaks ALL the time on MAC OS 10" Not PC. Therefore...Apples problem

  • flash 11 seems to be pretty good and on my macbook ro youtube videos use much less cpu cycles than even html5 turned on

  • @virginboy92 pro*

  • No, the real reason is because they can't profit off it.

  • @Tyster511 ur stupid adobe already even stopped development on mobile flash in a company restructure

  • @virginboy92

    Not adobe, apple.

  • What load of Mac !

  • stupid apple! im selling my mac and getting a pc! mac is just a piece of shit

  • You're an idiot. I would rather take my chances with flash crashing (which doesn't happen nearly as often as you claim, mind you) than not have the option to view flash content on any site besides YouTube at all.

  • Dude, check your browser settings.

  • ya right , CRASH ? your head !

  • The PS3 can play flash content LOL

  • Dude sorry for saying but if you really think flash is a bad add on you're a true 1st class jack ass if it was so bad why does almost every website in the world use it including the website you're posting this video from and i really dont know how you can say flash crashes i've been using flash player for many years and never once had it crash on me and the fact that a jailbroken iphone can play flash player on a 3rd party browser just shows that a apple iphone/ipod/ipad can run flash just as w

  • Well as any other device out there maybe next time before you post a video about your opinion you should do more research that way you dont look like an idiot who know's nothing about today's Technology

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  • Flash is NOT "garbage" and "unstable". It is just shit on apple products, its the fault of apple not flash. I have windows 7, it works fine, I had windows XP and it always worked fine. And to say "oh ps3 and 360 and psp" doesn't have flash support. Newsflash- they are 4+ years old pieces of hardware that are not fully featured PC's, merely games consoles that can do some web browsing on the side. Talk about an apple fanboy...

  • Are you getting a big fat check from Apple because the last couple of years you haven't criticize them once in any matter?

  • Flash does not crash unless you are using an inferior computer. I use it all the time.

  • Flash + windows fucks macs over but R.I,P Steve Jobs! respect for you no hate for him

  • I use Flash every day, our database at my work is programmed in Flash, and it has NEVER crashed within the 4 years we've been using it. That's why you get Windows, we're running Windows 7, no crashes, ever. Apple can't do software then if they can't even handle something as simple as Flash.

  • Everyone chill out and just buy apple. It's better.

  • @DanialDawson Unless you like gaming or customizing your computer.. Don't buy apple. Why do you think people are forced to jail break their damn ios just to personalize it?

  • FLASH DEFENDERS!!!!

  • get lost coz crapple didnt do it so that the websites get built custom for iphone with out flash

  • Let's face it. The iPod pad phone products are not known for their software but their hardware. You speak as if u r blaming adobe. It is apples fault for not securing a relationship with adobe since adobe is so good.

  • i use imac i never had anything with flash crash also i can view videos on youtube desktop pages now for some reason they are enabling html5 now unlike before

  • Apple wants us to use their own crappy quicktime instead of flash. Apple are greedy motherfuckers.

  • OK you are saying FLASH crashes on APPLE Safari ....

    So there must be something wrong with Safari man....!!

    Cos I haven't heard people complaining about Flash crashing every time they open up youtube.....??

    How much apple pays u for saying these shit........Sucker

  • no,no,no ,no,no,no,no,no,no, adobe dosent suck its what you are running it on. it called mac osx. i have windows xp and it has not crashed since i took my computer out of the box and installed it and kept updating

  • Thats why android is way better then apple!! because it has adobe flash and it NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER CRASHED

  • Well lets flip this around. Why does not apple have their own Flash player? With the technology they have and price you pay should they not have come up with something that would make the internet scream. If they have something better coming out Don't the owners of Apple computers at least have something better than the IPOD..Iphones..ETC.. Apple could rule the internet if they could take the signals by an internet provider and send it to Apple costumers. That would make it faster...flash=speed.

  • Also, Apps on my iPhone and iPod touch crash more often than they work. Ill be using it, suddenly a pause, suddenly back at my main screen with everything in the app lost. Adobe has stopped a couple times on my laptop, but it takes 2 seconds and I'm back. No loss, not the end of the world. If you don't support flash, then uninstall it off all your computers and enjoy your heavily limited Internet.

  • That's apple, grabbing you by the balls and not giving you a choice. It's why I don't have Apple products; I like to be different, be able to customize, UPGRADE, not buy overpriced hardware, and have the choice to install whatever software I want. Regardless of crashing, it should at least be an option. Why disable a feature that everyone demands? Stop assuming and telling people what they want and just listen!

  • Flash very rarely crashes for my Windows comp, so i don't know what you are talking about.

  • i understand that adobe crashes a lot on apple macs, but the least apple can do is let us use this featue on our mobile devices so that we can blame flash and not apple for this. besides, its not like this crash happens to everyone

  • "...rendering a controlled ecosystem, well, unusable."

    Are you... Are you even listening to yourself?

  • Ok if they say it's bad(it indeed does suck sometimes) why don't they make a own player???? I mean now the Ipod, pad,phone -users miss many things what they could do if they would have that player. But actually, if you have adobe, you should run a onlinegamesite too, and that actually is impossible because of the controls

  • then why wont apple create a stable flash?

  • Why is your facebook like that?

  • @scottie

    "Uploaded by lockergnome on Jan 31, 2010"

  • OK can someone answer to me because I don't know anything: does iPad 2 play youtube videos yes or no?

  • @greensallydown yes, of course it can. Open up the youtube app and search away.

    It can't, however, play non-youtube videos (viddler for example) natively on a web page. So embedded videos like those on sites like engadget arent supported.

  • Flash crashes on Mac.

    Flash is good.

    Mac is garbage.

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  • Apple does not allow Flash because that would sidestep their app store. I have never had problems with Flash. You just lost all credibility...

  • Now I see Android based cell phones and tablets advertising flash content is on them, so now we have a tablet that does everything found on the internet.

    Now you can go to Youtube and see your video without a special add on to Safari web browser! Just go and surf and watch like you would on any other browser!

    WHY WOULD YOU BUY ANYTHING THAT RESTRICTS WHAT YOU CAN SEE AND DO ONLINE?

    Even if it is one thing used online?

  • LMAO Get over your narcissistic self dude. Both Microsoft and Apple suck, but flash never crashes on a windows based PC!

    Steve Jobs problem is called (this may be a big word for you) "proprietary"

    There is a problem with the CPU used in macs otherwise they should be able to run any code, because in the end (if you know anything about computers) it is all machine language!

    Macs cant interpret it as well as Pc's PC's are not meant for Windows alone they are meant to read machine language!

  • @NoobyRC Why doesn't your Windows based PC run any of my macintosh applications? I mean, they're all written in "machine language". Gosh, why can't PCs interpret it as well as a Mac.

  • First let me explain the problem. It's not flash in fact I've almost never had a problem with it, the problem is your using a Mac. Flash was developed for PC.

  • suddenly, macfags everywhere

    only thing I don't like about my iPhone is the lack of flash

  • wait does macboook laptops have flash

  • well half the web use flash stuff like youtube it use flash to show video

  • I like my Windows and Android. Both get programs for free, and no restrictions. kthxbai.

  • Surely it's not Adobe's fault if it seems to work on every OS other than OSX?

  • @GRAWNasha yea i noticed its just fine on all versions of linix even Unbuntu! Its runs on that Sun Micro-systems java based OS, and does anyone remember the master of all operating system for wich the OS's of today owe there existence to "UNIX"

  • Go buy Windows 7, flash works good in everything except OSX

  • Flash is garbage on Windows too!

  • quicktime , htlm5 and java is the answer there is NO need for FLASH!

  • @elmucaro177 Except Apple won't support the full HTML5 spec, which *supports* Flash as an embeddable MIME type. Doh! And Java is also banned. I think you got it confused with JavaScript.

  • @elmucaro177 Talking purely HTML5/JS, Apple has made sure to discourage anything made there which acts like an application. Even Angry Birds requires iStore on iOS: no web apps for you.

  • I've never seen flash crash. But then I don't own an Apple product.

  • @SarahSaysSo1 apple computers are way better than windows

  • @brianegan3 Name one thing they do better. Other than cost more.

  • if i buy ipad 2 is it posible that apple will make a update on iTunes for flash

  • @karnosbloishot

    stop dreaming. it wont be possible. sorry

  • @uyeop why wont it be galaxy has it but i wanted to know adobe flash can be upated or its a chip pre programed

  • ....ok so if apple added adobe wouldnt tht add more videos and activities we can watch and see or play??

  • Boys you dumb shits didnt hear a word he said. If adobe don't support it on Mac osx. Why should apple. And how does osx suck if flash crashes lol. Retarded comments.

  • this guy has no idea what he is talking about -_-

  • why should they? because its so fucking common

  • Flash isn't garbage Mac OS is

  • @artilleryisbetter mac os is is better than windows, your just to poor to aford a mac so your trying to convince yourself that your piece of shit is better

  • @brianegan3 your logic is so win sir please congratulate yourself with a giant victory cake. responding to an old comment and stating a biased assumption with provocative terminology so once again congrats sir.

  • Flash works VERY well on Linux and Windows. Just because OS X sucks with Flash does not mean Flash sucks. If you want to watch Flash videos, use Windows or Linux.

  • geek

    

  • "It's not apple's problem" Well, that's called a point of view, and it seems some people do not share it. I don't really care about the matter in question, but people can have their opinion, as much as you do.

  • @DeMoNiXxAnGeL Well they've sold more than 8 million units in October and more have been sold so yeah, I think people are buying the iPad.

  • @Bucketbucketdog PCs are the biggest examples of being made in sweat shops in China. And no, Apple knows people want 10 hours of battery power and to have a smooth solid experience. On the Windows side, Windows PC manufactures thinks more is better and stuff anything in their products without using them.

  • apple sux aint flash fault its jobs greedy dumb azz whos at fault

  • @sprucepantherkmt Dude, you're dumb; ever heard of grammar? Or punctuation?

  • @MoisesZTech rofl ur a puss and a fag so there! rofl

  • @sprucepantherkmt dng yo lyke u totally noe how to spellz lulz! Oh please...

  • you have osx, so yeah you dont have an opinion

  • @lightside4 Windows fails.

  • Fag

  • Flash crashes on windows too did during this video :(

  • News-Flash! Blaming Adobe is moot since Jobs is against the format and doesn't want any apple product associated with it, period. Also, you possibly might have the douchiest profile pic on Facebook.

  • @smarfling Yeah, cause Flash is terrible.

  • @borochocho lol agreed, I also "dislike" the "problem" in da ps3.... Funny thing is we got apple fanboys that love xbox (Microsoft) and hate pc, or pc fans that love ps3 buh hate xbox (me, but I don't hate xbox I prefer ps3 so far I still got my playstation 3 and is still kicking ass since I bought it. In the other hand I know quite a few ppl who had their xbox fail)

  • hahahahahah what a queer. you keep saying that flash sucks and its worthless but you know what also u keep saying. that it crashes on mac's. thats all you say. i have no problem with my flash browsing experience on my pc. and yes i hate the fact that the ps3 cant play most flash content. but that doesnt make me hate sony. it makes me laugh at how u apple nerds struggle to browse the modern web. hahaha. im taunting you to reply to this comment. apple nerd

  • @borochocho Homophobic much? and I have had tons of PCs and they've crashed most of the time due to Flash. And yeah, Apple is the leader of modern technology, just look at the PC manufactures they keep taking Apple's ideas or try to compete with failure products (when Apple released the iPad, PC manufacturers struggled to release tablets just to compete with the iPad).

  • @MoisesZTech well i myself have had a boat load of pc's and none of them have ever crashed do to flash. you just simply dont know how to take care of computers in general. all that porn that you watch affects your computers i guess. it just wants more and more until it busts a circut. or maybe its you that busts a nut on its circuits. shut the fuck up apple nerd. apple doesnt control the computer market at all. windows does. it doesnt compare. and the flash less pad is going down by the Motoxoom

  • You have a morbidly obese inbox

  • what the hell did you do to make almost all of your pages break flash?

    I semi agree its not totally apples problem, but just turning there back on all of there customers and saying, "Not our problem" Is just childish.

    It is there problem ALONG with adobes.

    Apples objective is to create a stable desktop environment, and if there's a big piece of software that isn't stable, find out why. WORK WITH adobe, not just blame them because your os can't run it efficiently.

  • BUT BUT BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBUT I NEED ADOBE FLASH PLAYER ON MY IPOD!

  • Also, you seem to not know what irony is. You say it is ironic that flash is not working at the time you want to make a video about flash not working. That is the complete opposite of irony. In fact, I'd go so far as to say you staged it that way on purpose.

  • The real problem is that users want the whole internet and not allowing flash on the iPhone is cutting off access to a huge part of the internet. I want to decide what content I can access; I don't want my hardware manufacturer to decide for me.

    If Apple were to allow flash on the iPhone there may be times when it wouldn't work properly, but there would also be times when it did. As things are now, a great amount of content NEVER works properly.

  • The real problem is because creator of apple an creator of adobe went to school together and now hate each other.

  • Your right, Flash does crashes on the Mac., so I bought Windows 7. Problem solved.

  • @poestasis7 yes. finally someone that understands. good job man i congratulate you. fuck mac fuck apple they have nothing but cheap over priced products.

  • @borochocho Hmmm Aluminum Unibody or cheap plastic case? Great customer support or a bad customer support? Preloaded crapware?

  • @poestasis7 Too bad Windows crashes even if it isn't Flash's fault.

  • @poestasis7 flash crashes on windows 7 too

  • Dude, flash have NEVER CRASHED on my computer IN MY LIFE. Also, my paid work depends in part on flash, you don't like it then get your lips off steve job's cock and use something else. Fucker.

  • @ImperialArmour Well that's you; there's hundreds of people who've reported it crashes on their PCs.

  • @MoisesZTech yes, out of hundreds of millions of other users who runs flash just fine. Your little community fruitcakes are just stirring shit for attention.

  • why blame it on flash osx sucks cock big time, a nd there too bigger assholes to put a half decent media player on there equiptment. There done.

  • 1) Comparing a PS3 to a mobile phone is like comparing a Blu-ray player to a television... they have completely different purposes and it is extremely juvenile to compare the two.

    2) Steve Jobs is only in protecting the standards of his seamless software. Since Steve Jobs refuses to implement flash on their mobile devices, why the hell would Adobe invest the money into development on Apples products?

    It's not Adobe's problem, it's definitely Apples. Adobe isn't losing anything, but Apple is.

  • its not flashes fault, like the other guys say. IT WORKS PERFECTLY FINE ON WINDOWS.

    it IS apples problem.

  • i NEVER had problem with flash... yet another reason why mac sux

  • NNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR­RRRRDDDDDDDD

  • I agree with @Idjaren. If adobe flash sucks and is unstable, why are so many people using the damn thing to run on their sites. I dont give a crap, i just wanna be able to visit every websites. Being, limited sucks. You say it's adobe's problem, not apples. But, it's both of their problems, if you think about it. Because, they both can either gain or loose business regarding this matter. People aren't going to stay loyal to a certain product, if it cannot do whatever they want it to do.

  • it is really adode that sucks because i tryed to get flash on wii and they said it dose not support.

  • Apple's problem with adobe flash is that they are trying to promote their Quicktime video format, there is no problem with flash's stability, and if i am wrong then it is still Apple's problem that they fail to create a device that satisfies the majority of consumers and runs on a format that does not work with the majority of websites videos and online games.

  • Why we want flash on those devices: Because sooo many things run on it.

  • i agree flash does crashes a lot especially on google chrome, but at the same time most sites uses flash

  • You get alot of those little blue lego with flash even on the pc running windows 7 despite what alot of these microsoft idiots are saying. Flash is garbage and never runs smooth. An i agree its not apples problem that flash is garbage. An its not stable and it does break down all the freakin time and its outdated. Please Microsoft idiots come up with an arguement to support something good with flash other then name calling like an adolescent child calling people stupid who don't agree with u

  • Flash is garbage and alot of you people that support it are in denial. 

  • I agree flash has issues I own an iPod touch 4g and love it however my next mobile device will be an android device as in real life I can't be told what I can and can't do with it

  • Funny how flash dont crash on my windows XP system my big issue with apple and flash is it's my device I should be able to install what I want at my own risk and not try to outsmart apple to do it

  • uhhhh, not. i'm typing on my macbook pro right now. all of their computers have flash and it never crashes for me. in fact, flash has never crashed on ANY operating system i've ever used (i used to have both linux and windows). broski, you're clearly mistaken. apple just hates on all 3rd-party software; that's why they didn't put flash on the iPad.

  • This guy makes me sad... he doesn't know what he's talking about... Flash is pretty stable, even on my imac and macbook I haven't had any problems with Flash... The reason for no flash with Apple products is for personal reasons between both companies. Learn your facts...

  • I agree with the guy below me. If apple say the ipad is a great web browsing experience you should be able to go onto the many websites with flash. Then again there are some paid apps that you can play online for free with flash.

  • stop defending apple...

    if people want flash on their product the company should be able to provide it.

    I agree that flash is a bit outdated, but still a lot of website use it and thus should be supported!

  • lol i dont know what you done with you mac but i now use a macbook for more then 4 years with flash and i only manage te let it crash one time (and never had "the bue lego thing")

    the main reason why i use mac is simple:

    1 version (and not 6+) and you can customize it to how you like it

    (i do still have bootcamp on it for windows xp but only to play a game now and then)

    i dont say mac is better or worse (same for windows)

    but current flash version is not unstable on the computers i have seen

  • You sir are a morom. It is entirely apples fault for making suck a computer Why would adobe bother with the coding you fkin nerd just get windows before u cry

  • I don't really have an opinion on this debate.... i'm in the middle.... although I am glad that the Web is moving to Html5 where we won't need flash for the most part.....

  • The reason flash doesn't work well with macs, is for the simple reason that PC'S ARE MORE POPULAR, and plain more useful for pretty much anything, I'll give macs the point that they can handle video and graphic design better because of the way the system works, but other than that, macs are pretty much useless pieces of glossed paper compared to Windows.

    It's just how it works, the code wasn't made for macs, I'm surprised macs can handle it even on a basic level.

  • Mac/apple sucks. Get a windows.

  • WINDOWS 7 BITCH

  • Ok i respect you Chris and all but how much did you get paid to back Apple up so much.? How much did you get paid to diss adobe so much? I mean seriously i swear you were independent.

  • Flash sucks, and I think adobe purposely makes it suck on Macintosh. Or maybe they just suck at Mac coding. I don't like people saying Adobe works better on PC because they probably aren't good at coding for Macintosh.

  • boringgggggg

  • he has a problem with it becuz he doesnt wanna accept that windows is better

  • I agree with you. Flash sucks.

  • What is flash like on the Iphone 4 with O.S.4 or whatever its called?

  • actually i use frash (iphone flash) that is available for the jailbreak and no problems/slowdowns at all

  • I'm sure there's a reason for flash not working on the mac :P

  • I wouldn't accept a dvd burner that won't read dvd-rw disc

    I wouldn't accept it when that burner manufacturer sells dvd+rw media and believe an excuse about performance or their being mysterious issues with burn failures.

    There is a large portion of the web that is in flash. I wish it were an open standard. It's not. That's just the way it is.

    I want access to that content.

  • Stop using big words to try to sound smarter.

  • I do hate "walled garden systems" a cage with golden bars is still a cage.

  • if you are using a laptop you are waching this video with FLASH!

    plus on my laptop google chorme does not like flash so if it is anyones problem it is google chorme

  • if you are using a laptop you are waching this video with FLASH!

  • Flash sucks on OSX, for that reason OSX sucks, because it work on either windows and linux PERFECTLY. It's Apples responsibility to implement flash without trouble. I am a web designer and i experience this allot. But you dont see me blaming FireFox for not handling my HMTL files exactly like for instance IE.

    -Stagg

  • @Stagg369 So that means all Windows machines and Linux machines run it perfectly? In my experience many of the Windows crashes on my PCs were due to Flash. If you're a real web designer, you'd realize how bad Flash is and how fast it can drain the battery on mobile devices.

  • Must be Safari that suck really hard...really, I've never experinced this with either firefox or google chrome.

  • Without flash on the iPad, the Apple fanboys will have more time giving the Mighty Steve a virtual handjob everytime they go online.

  • I own a mac, never had a problem EVER. viruses? nope. hordes of weird unknown files taking up mass amounts of space? nope. PLUS macs have the ability to duel run operating systems, I've got windows 7 as well as snow leopard.

  • Well, Apple users love flash, and flash users love Love, and hate Nazis (Steve BlowJobs)

  • Also I love how you talk like it is a world wide problem when my PC has no problems at all and I just got Flash on my Droid one and I watched like 10 30 min video with little lag at all. I am sure apple is going to put flash on their phones and Ipods because the People on Android are have very little problems

  • Or maybe the people that own Apple computers don't have any problems on their Macs and they want it on their phones as well because they have no problem on their computer and the few that do have a problem most likly have something wrong with their computer.

  • Flash has never crashed on me.

    Good luck web surfing without flash then finding out a shit load of sites use it.

    PS: I do hate consoles already.

  • "Flash is most undoubtedly the most unstable software of I've used" FUCK YOU!!!

  • @jamesdcrooks he said "on Mac OSX" Get the whole story!