I would really recommend a magnetic shield in between the cushion and the magnets, or you will have dumb fucks destroying their hard drives in their laptops while trying to use them in their bed.
@VortigernPendragon On the video and on one of your answers you say "Magnetic therapy has been shown to aid in the recovery of strokes and relieve the effects of clinical depression." then you say "Permanent magnets don't emit radiation. Electromagnets emit magnetic waves. These are permanent magnets." So then how will they be any good in therapy? Therapy is done with electromagnets. And why are you showing a plane, the zeppelin tragedy and the A-Bomb? That, like the bed, makes no sense at all.
@Ranavage Both magnets and elctromagnets emit waves. Electromagnets emit electromagnetic waves, permanent magnets emit non-electromagnetic waves. Electromagnetic waves may be detrimental to people, permanent magnetic waves are not. And those pictures were added to create a little levity (no pun intended) to the video. I ran out of pictures to use and needed something to fill in the space. I thought they were kind of funny. Either they are not, or you have no sense of humor.
hey man, im an inventor too. i like what ur doin. it would be cool to see this work out. almost as cool as my floating concrete islands. its hard at first when the product is still awkward in the public perception. soldier on if u believe.
From the looks of it, the magnets weren't lowering too much in any area where you were laying, which looks like it would feel as if you're laying on a floor with a small pad under you. Also, as we go further into the future, we are finding more and more uses for electronic technology, which I don't believe would be a good idea to have around this. I may be wrong, but if I'm not, then this is something that would ruin thousands of dollars worth of electronics in my room if I took it too close.
Oh c'mon. Anyone with an ounce of horse-sense knows why this product will never make it in a market. A regular spring loaded or even foam matress works just as well (or better) and costs a fraction to produce compared to this magnetic bed and is (with exception of fabric chemicals) empirically proven safe! I'm sorry. The person that gave you the grant and yourself need to have some sense beaten into your skulls. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it's a good idea.
@therealkakkamakkara Looks like you need to brush up on your research. When you say works just as well, you aren't being specific as to what that means. The magnetic repulsion has a completely different support ratio than springs or foam and can be manufactured for about the same cost. And, contrary to your concern over side effects, there may actually be health benefits. Magnetic therapy has been shown to aid in the recovery of strokes and relieve the effects of clinical depression.
@VortigernPendragon We use radiation to kill cancer, but it involves temporary well-directed exposure, not prolonged full-body exposure. One shouldn't regularly sleep on magnets for the same reason. Too much of anything (esp. radiation) is more than likely bad. It's funny you claim to care some much about US economy when you want to waste valuable hi-tech metals (Nd, B) on lavish beds. It's senseless and inefficient use of resources.
sure the spring will last what about the mattress....the foam they use. they have to replace those? the design needs to be functional if it is for the public use rather than specific use like therapy. still a lot of work to do here but the idea is nice. a lot is question needs to be addressed. ex how long will the metal be magnetic? or is it a permanent magnet? if so, any side effect or harm to the body? to red blood cells?
Its cool alright. But what are the long term affects to our bodies? I mean you are sleeping on top of a strong magnetic field here. Stronger than anything we normally encounter during the day. Every day, think about it. Would it be like taking an MRI every day? I could be wrong here, I'm not a scientist. But I would need to have some solid verifiable proof this would not harm me.
if you can create enough magnetic field, you can push any organic material completely opposite of gravity. so have fun with your new bed which is as comfortable as clouds.
So what your saying is you don't believe in your own idea enough to invest in it enough yourself?? So your going to plan "B", get others to give you money.
Another point, why would I want to buy a bed that could last 300 years. I'll be dead before half it's useful live is spent. I'll be buying a bed for another or two other people. Nah! Good try though. SS
@sailingsolar I don't happen to have a million dollars lying around to invest, do you? Most individual inventors are dependent upon investors to make their ideas work. As far as the durability goes, imagine a bed that you could pass down a couple generations. You don't think that would be worth something?
everything is built to last just so long. 1. to make more money by selling more. 2. to give the illusion to the people using all things made these days, that humans must not therefore last as long either. part of the depopulation agenda. the practice of making products not last, makes it easier to poison the sheeple so their bodies fall apart quicker and they die faster. tons of reasons. fluoride in products and water to kill dreaming, nutrient deficient foods, etc. you get the point.
Yeah, the problem is that you still need to have a mattress lined with magnets contacting your body. Because of that there's no difference between an air mattress and this magnetic mattress. And the air mattress is a lot cheaper.
@mattytroll Most newer pacemakers are not affected by magnetic fields as they had to be modified for MRIs. But for those that still are, those people would not be able to sleep on such a bed.
Hey, no doubt this is an interesting idea, as I love to play around with magnets, but, at the same time, I know how expensive they can be. What do you think this bed might cost, especially in comparison to a normal bed (spring, foam, etc?)?
@scienceman89 The magnets aren't really that expensive when bought in volume. The overall cost of the system would probably be in line with a conventional bed.
The reason you can't generate any corporate interest is: "lifespan of 300 years".
No-one is interested in selling a product that will last that long. I can't think of a single product that we have available to us as consumers that is engineered with a life span expected to exceed 10 years. Heavens! How on earth could they sell another. i mean really, think about that for a minute. This is NOT a culture of durability, rather one of disposability. "Profit above all else".
@Leighachristine Actually, there's a way around that. You can make the parts of the bed other than the magnets themselves fall apart after 10 years or so. In fact, it might be possible to recycle the magnets and reuse them in new beds. It's an astute observation. That topic has come up in my meetings with some of these companies.
One issue I thought of is the magnets may interfere with other objects. Like Wireless internet of Cell phone signal. You would have to incase them in something that would either block or weaken there emitting power.
I wonder if this could work to make a mag lev elevator.
@JTX5 There's a simple way to overcome the magnetic field emanating up from the bed. All you have to do is place a small metal plate on top of the magnets and it will deflect the field into horizontal direction rather than a vertical one. This also has the double benefit of strengthening the field that is repelling the magnet below it.
@TheKuffarKid I have a friend who is a patent attorney, which really helped. I didn't have to go searching for one. But even so, the patent process costs thousands of dollars. Not to mention the additional costs of building prototypes, working with an engineering firm, etc.
Very interesting Good luck with that. Seems like a good idea. Would do you think about motion transfer? Would you be able to put a glass of wine on a corner and jump up and down on the other? Lol.
I would really recommend a magnetic shield in between the cushion and the magnets, or you will have dumb fucks destroying their hard drives in their laptops while trying to use them in their bed.
NiggerKiller1861 1 week ago
@VortigernPendragon On the video and on one of your answers you say "Magnetic therapy has been shown to aid in the recovery of strokes and relieve the effects of clinical depression." then you say "Permanent magnets don't emit radiation. Electromagnets emit magnetic waves. These are permanent magnets." So then how will they be any good in therapy? Therapy is done with electromagnets. And why are you showing a plane, the zeppelin tragedy and the A-Bomb? That, like the bed, makes no sense at all.
Ranavage 1 month ago
@Ranavage Both magnets and elctromagnets emit waves. Electromagnets emit electromagnetic waves, permanent magnets emit non-electromagnetic waves. Electromagnetic waves may be detrimental to people, permanent magnetic waves are not. And those pictures were added to create a little levity (no pun intended) to the video. I ran out of pictures to use and needed something to fill in the space. I thought they were kind of funny. Either they are not, or you have no sense of humor.
VortigernPendragon 1 month ago
hey man, im an inventor too. i like what ur doin. it would be cool to see this work out. almost as cool as my floating concrete islands. its hard at first when the product is still awkward in the public perception. soldier on if u believe.
lostintheapplasauce 2 months ago
From the looks of it, the magnets weren't lowering too much in any area where you were laying, which looks like it would feel as if you're laying on a floor with a small pad under you. Also, as we go further into the future, we are finding more and more uses for electronic technology, which I don't believe would be a good idea to have around this. I may be wrong, but if I'm not, then this is something that would ruin thousands of dollars worth of electronics in my room if I took it too close.
iXaos7 3 months ago
Oh c'mon. Anyone with an ounce of horse-sense knows why this product will never make it in a market. A regular spring loaded or even foam matress works just as well (or better) and costs a fraction to produce compared to this magnetic bed and is (with exception of fabric chemicals) empirically proven safe! I'm sorry. The person that gave you the grant and yourself need to have some sense beaten into your skulls. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it's a good idea.
therealkakkamakkara 4 months ago
@therealkakkamakkara Looks like you need to brush up on your research. When you say works just as well, you aren't being specific as to what that means. The magnetic repulsion has a completely different support ratio than springs or foam and can be manufactured for about the same cost. And, contrary to your concern over side effects, there may actually be health benefits. Magnetic therapy has been shown to aid in the recovery of strokes and relieve the effects of clinical depression.
VortigernPendragon 4 months ago
@VortigernPendragon We use radiation to kill cancer, but it involves temporary well-directed exposure, not prolonged full-body exposure. One shouldn't regularly sleep on magnets for the same reason. Too much of anything (esp. radiation) is more than likely bad. It's funny you claim to care some much about US economy when you want to waste valuable hi-tech metals (Nd, B) on lavish beds. It's senseless and inefficient use of resources.
therealkakkamakkara 4 months ago
@therealkakkamakkara Permanent magnets don't emit radiation. Electromagnets emit magnetic waves. These are permanent magnets.
VortigernPendragon 3 months ago
sure the spring will last what about the mattress....the foam they use. they have to replace those? the design needs to be functional if it is for the public use rather than specific use like therapy. still a lot of work to do here but the idea is nice. a lot is question needs to be addressed. ex how long will the metal be magnetic? or is it a permanent magnet? if so, any side effect or harm to the body? to red blood cells?
theworldofwonder 5 months ago
Its cool alright. But what are the long term affects to our bodies? I mean you are sleeping on top of a strong magnetic field here. Stronger than anything we normally encounter during the day. Every day, think about it. Would it be like taking an MRI every day? I could be wrong here, I'm not a scientist. But I would need to have some solid verifiable proof this would not harm me.
thehappyinfidel2011 5 months ago
Hooray, end of (united states of) america!
Deztitute 6 months ago
You said it yourself... it's a totally repulsive idea!
jeffpicks 7 months ago
You can't take your laptop/electronics on it, and it looks super uncomfortable
feuchster 8 months ago
if you can create enough magnetic field, you can push any organic material completely opposite of gravity. so have fun with your new bed which is as comfortable as clouds.
BijeloNW 8 months ago
So what your saying is you don't believe in your own idea enough to invest in it enough yourself?? So your going to plan "B", get others to give you money.
Another point, why would I want to buy a bed that could last 300 years. I'll be dead before half it's useful live is spent. I'll be buying a bed for another or two other people. Nah! Good try though. SS
sailingsolar 9 months ago
@sailingsolar I don't happen to have a million dollars lying around to invest, do you? Most individual inventors are dependent upon investors to make their ideas work. As far as the durability goes, imagine a bed that you could pass down a couple generations. You don't think that would be worth something?
VortigernPendragon 7 months ago
everything is built to last just so long. 1. to make more money by selling more. 2. to give the illusion to the people using all things made these days, that humans must not therefore last as long either. part of the depopulation agenda. the practice of making products not last, makes it easier to poison the sheeple so their bodies fall apart quicker and they die faster. tons of reasons. fluoride in products and water to kill dreaming, nutrient deficient foods, etc. you get the point.
lorentsmful 9 months ago
Yeah, the problem is that you still need to have a mattress lined with magnets contacting your body. Because of that there's no difference between an air mattress and this magnetic mattress. And the air mattress is a lot cheaper.
Nomoreidsleft 10 months ago
Hmm. a bed that could kill someone with a pacemaker, maybe not such a good idea?
mattytroll 11 months ago
@mattytroll Most newer pacemakers are not affected by magnetic fields as they had to be modified for MRIs. But for those that still are, those people would not be able to sleep on such a bed.
VortigernPendragon 11 months ago
Hey, no doubt this is an interesting idea, as I love to play around with magnets, but, at the same time, I know how expensive they can be. What do you think this bed might cost, especially in comparison to a normal bed (spring, foam, etc?)?
scienceman89 1 year ago
@scienceman89 The magnets aren't really that expensive when bought in volume. The overall cost of the system would probably be in line with a conventional bed.
VortigernPendragon 1 year ago
The reason you can't generate any corporate interest is: "lifespan of 300 years".
No-one is interested in selling a product that will last that long. I can't think of a single product that we have available to us as consumers that is engineered with a life span expected to exceed 10 years. Heavens! How on earth could they sell another. i mean really, think about that for a minute. This is NOT a culture of durability, rather one of disposability. "Profit above all else".
Leighachristine 1 year ago
@Leighachristine Actually, there's a way around that. You can make the parts of the bed other than the magnets themselves fall apart after 10 years or so. In fact, it might be possible to recycle the magnets and reuse them in new beds. It's an astute observation. That topic has come up in my meetings with some of these companies.
VortigernPendragon 1 year ago
I'm all for this if it works right.
One issue I thought of is the magnets may interfere with other objects. Like Wireless internet of Cell phone signal. You would have to incase them in something that would either block or weaken there emitting power.
I wonder if this could work to make a mag lev elevator.
JTX5 1 year ago
@JTX5 There's a simple way to overcome the magnetic field emanating up from the bed. All you have to do is place a small metal plate on top of the magnets and it will deflect the field into horizontal direction rather than a vertical one. This also has the double benefit of strengthening the field that is repelling the magnet below it.
VortigernPendragon 1 year ago
Hey by the way how much did the patent end up costing? Did you use on of the online patent services like legal zoom?
TheKuffarKid 1 year ago
@TheKuffarKid I have a friend who is a patent attorney, which really helped. I didn't have to go searching for one. But even so, the patent process costs thousands of dollars. Not to mention the additional costs of building prototypes, working with an engineering firm, etc.
VortigernPendragon 1 year ago
Very interesting Good luck with that. Seems like a good idea. Would do you think about motion transfer? Would you be able to put a glass of wine on a corner and jump up and down on the other? Lol.
TheKuffarKid 1 year ago