Muhammed Ali and Mike Tyson on same talk show - P2

[mancpartizan]

i really admire how humble ali is ledgend

[P2theRank]

First time ive seen that 3 of the greatest boxers ever, come on america we want to see more, Pete England.

[CurryKingAsif]

most people dont no shit about boxing....

[TextBookPuncher1]

@CurryKingAsif lool roger mayweather

[Tomolfc95]

awkward moment where a parkinson's diminished muhammed ali can still articulate himself better than mike tyson.

[lopezrec]

@Tomolfc95 Shut up retard

[Tomolfc95]

@lopezrec why... what did i do?

[Trusssno1]

Boxing legends

[Trusssno1]

really have a lot of respect for both of them

[TheBoxingwarriors]

@Trusssno1 for sugar ray also

[lopezrec]

@Trusssno1 yeah for the three of them

[pullypowerrr]

RESPECT!!!

[8shaable]

WOW! i would not start fight in here noway while this guys are here.

[stllwtchngvds]

Wow I never knew about this. My 3 favorite boxers. Awesome!

[T6m6u6]

You can see the pride in Alis eyes when they say his truly the greatest....and its trueeee

[PrimeAliProductions]

0:56.HAHAHAHA ALI US THE CHAMP

[mAr1n4o]

ali can't speak!

[TandarKhan]

@mAr1n4o Yes he can just like the Great Books can.

[ArtfulDodger14]

The greatest!!

[whanaublood]

is it me, or does it look like ali wants to knock everyone out. kind of like, if you say one word wrong, i'm gonna get up and show you what the greatest is all about!

[MUFCFrankie]

To everyone attempting to argue who would have won.

You will never know so please stop doing it.

End of the day if Ali v Foreman never happened people would be saying foreman is the greatest.

So just leave it

[xximreallyboredxx]

@MUFCFrankie but ali did fight george foreman.

[ronrutherford]

Sugar Ray - gay? Really seems so.

[cdejean22]

I love how humble these professional fighters present themselves in this appearance together. Great stuff!!!

[ghiasuddinalizadeh]

it seems there is a misspelling there... it is 1986 not 89... Tyson beat Berbick in 86 and Spinks in 88...

[AshwithKash1]

Like this if theres a video of Muhammed ali vs Cleveland Williams 1966 on the right side of your video list

[mike649fox]

well I think tyson beats ali if they are both at their best. But that's just my opinion.

[MrYahusha]

the sad thing is if mike would have kept his head on straight he would have been the greatest ever even surpassing ali

[brassss1]

What would you say to Joe Frazier when you were in the ring ?

- You're in trouble sucker

hahahahahaha epic

[ChuiVision]

man iam glad i found this... their aura is the shit!!!!!! this hypes me up

[ederrick987]

I remember watching this live..its tragic racist at fox destroy Arsenio Hall show and career. It was vulgarity at its worst what they did to this brother. 

[rineshvtec]

both great fighters, but my vote goes to tyson on been the best ever

[Spissky95]

Clay, or Ali looked like a fucking Don.

[dabidosan]

Mike Tyson: "I can't imagine Ray talking trash.....by any means would you care for a few more of these Upper-cuts?".

Aha ha ha ha hah, Aha ha ha hah!!!

[mitraljez]

shit we get to see on youtube ... priceless ;)

[1995pianoboy]

he knows hes the best haha

[furkaan346]

Ali is so good boxer of all time

[THUGxGAMEZ]

some explain to mee why is mike tyson fine but ali just cant talk ??????????

[Kurotensity]

@THUGxGAMEZ he was already developing parkinson's disease and his mental capacities were reaching their limits

[metalmty]

@THUGxGAMEZ because he was diagnosed parkinson... read some about it.... its terrible it start to blow out your mind little by little.... your hands shaing but your brain is blowing out when u;re on it

[joekelmen]

@THUGxGAMEZ because ali has Parkinson he sick and older then Tyson still he is a legend

[thehitchrules]

@THUGxGAMEZ Ali has Parkinsons Syndrome as a result of being pounded in the head over time . This primarily affects speech and movement .Tyson's speech and movement; today, is still intact because very few opponents ever caught him flush to his head such was his magnificent defense . Ali used to take a beating about the head because his boxing style was relatively unguarded with hands low and he used to soak up the punishment .

[Onieracraft]

No, Ali took a beating about the head because he boxed for far longer than he should have, and he no longer had the reflexes to do it.

Ali fought for 21 years and captured the title 3 times without being koed once. Amazing accomplishment, but a Boxing career like that is too long, and hazardous..

[thehitchrules]

@Onieracraft Exactly what I'm saying. He took too many punches over too long a period of time . We're basically saying the same thing ! He soaked it up for too long . I'm not disrespecting Ali's achievement, he was an incredible boxer . But it is what it is , you can't sugar-coat it .

[Kara0Priscilla]

At 5:00 he say's "he is a friend of mine"

[Pezrawr]

Is Muhammad Ali autistic or something?

[MrBoxingcrazysal]

@Pezrawr No but throughout his career he suffered many hard punches from really hard punchers like George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Floyd Patternson, and Joe Frazier (many more but just listing a few).

[MilitantKaos]

@Pezrawr He has parkinsons disease..

[mexch14]

OMG Muhhamed Ali reminds me of the Godfather, Mr. don Corleone the way he talks just had to throw it out there..Greatest movie of all time and greatest fighter of all time!

[TheUKConman]

@mexch14 he speaks like that because the parkinsons is setting in

[bigred4464]

This is vintage. Thanks for the post..!!

[TheLegendaryLinx]

Legends...

[ideoteqa]

you can barely hear the fucking thing

[irtezaa]

I can't help but notice how well-spoken Mike Tyson is. His conversations are so literate and refined.

[periechontology]

@irtezaa

Check Mike out in this clip

watch?v=yPtq7POYQUU

He was a completely different guy before Cus D'amato died, but as time went on after the death, he veered off and became a wreck. His reputation was very different in the 80's than what it became later.

[bayborn510]

Dang Mohommaad still look as yung is he did in his prime!

[m3oothy100]

You'r in trouple sucker 4:51 LoL :D

[Bigbang14Z]

wow, watching ali in that state, is fuckin sad. everyones telling him hes the greatest and it doesnt even look like he can mentally comprehend it. damn

[DICACIO1]

sorry guys, I gotta go watch that Ali vs. Cleveland Williams fight LOL

thanks for uploading this! Arsenio was great with Ali, Sugar Ray and Mike

[HheadHhammer]

"i don't want your hand, i want your wallet" Super slick.

[KSkash]

Ali Is The Greatest .. Period Mayweather and them now days in it for the money Ali is a Suuper OG i put my hat down to him !

[dazjah00]

@KSkash if your gonna get beat on why not fight for the money.., what else you suppose to fight for now days times has changed you have to prove points in this error, this error mayweather is the greatest but i love this show when i was a little girl my family was very upset when they took it off air but yes the 3 greatest

[MrRaidernation87]

"You in trouble suckaa."....

[tcoom76]

Arsenial handled there characters beautifully....really a great clip....thanks for the upload....

[chapinrey]

I seriously think that in a Tyson Ali fight Ali would let Tyson punch himself out , and exhaust him for about 6 rounds , then he would ppeper tyson with those incredible Combos , and by the 10 th round it would be over with Tyson on the mat !

[thehitchrules]

@chapinrey I seriously think that Tyson 85-88 would have knocked Ali out in round 3 or 4 . Tyson then was just too powerful, too fast and too deadly . He just came at opponents with everything he had at in his early career not many coped with it .

[Onieracraft]

@thehitchrules Right, so prime Tyson couldn't knock out James "Quick" Tillis or Tony Tucker in 10 rounds, but he's going to knock out Muhammed Ali in 3 rounds?

Ali won't even last as long as Mike Jameson huh? (R 5) By the way...WHO THE HECK IS MIKE JAMESON!! The thing about Tyson videos is that they always bring out the clueless folks.

[thehitchrules]

@Onieracraft You're very rude . This is a comments page and everyone is entitled to their opinion. The truth is you don't have superior knowledge over me or anyone else on here. There are many knowledgeable people about boxing who think Tyson would have won a fight over Ali and early.They are far from in the minority . Tyson didn't KO every single opponent he ever fought but he does have an awesome early round knock-out record . The bottom line is nobody really knows. And that does include you .

[Onieracraft]

But that isn't really the issue, the issue is your absurd 3 round Ko prediction.

[chapinrey]

@thehitchrules Tyson was fast with his hands but not with his legs .That's where Ali would have run him out ! Tyson would not have been able to touch Ali .

[gentorz]

@chapinrey Tyson was not fast with his legs? And just how do you think you can come in bobbing and weaving and closing the distance with lazy feet? Re-watch Tyson's footwork drills and you'll see ;)

[chapinrey]

@gentorz TYSON HAD STRONG LEGS THAT'S ALL . THERE IS A DIFFERENCE . ALI'S LEGS WERE STRONG AGILE AND FAST . ALI WOULD HAVE KEPT HIS DISTANCE , AND STICK AND MOVE , AND TYSON WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PEPPERED FROM ALL ANGLES , ALI WOULD HAVE LIT HIM UP !

[gentorz]

@chapinrey if you think Ali was faster on his feet than Tyson...then you are a retard. It is easier to do what Ali did and dance away rather than dash out in angles and hurt people with body shots. Ali was a dancing boxer...doesn't mean he had the best legs in boxing. And why put it in caps? Only makes you look insecure

[chapinrey]

@gentorz hahahaha I can care less what you think about me . But it isin't so much his legs it also goes with his incredible chin , and amazing stamina to go 20 rounds .Tyson barely ever went passed the 8th . What Lewis did to Tyson is a replay of what Ali would have done also .

[gentorz]

@chapinrey Lewis is a totally different fighter than Ali, and we were also comparing a prime Tyson and a Prime Ali...if you think that Tyson was in his prime during the 2000's then I pretty much don't have anything to discuss with you regarding Tyson. I have never said Ali was a bad boxer or anything, probably the best there ever was; however my own personal opinion is Tyson was much more technically gifted and not to mention much faster. Chinwise, I also believe Tyson took much more punishment.

[chapinrey]

@gentorz Tyson was tough , incredible power , and heart . But he lacked intelligence in the ring and I believe he would have gotten frustrated chasing Ali . I respect your opinion though and perhaps Tyson would have gotten in one of those upper cuts and follow it up . But an Ali in his prime ... 

[gentorz]

@chapinrey Unfortunately for die-hard old school boxing fans; we will never know...

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

Let's think through this, tell me what your prediction is for a Tyson Ali fight? Who wins in what round?

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft If it goes to the later rounds, Ali...but I just don't see Ali stopping a prime Tyson in the first 5-6 rounds.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

Ofcourse Ali wouldn't stop Tyson in the first 5-6 rounds. I predict it would most likely go 12 rounds, with Ali winning by unanimous decision.

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft That being said, I predict Tyson would most likely KO Ali within 5 rounds. Dancing boxers have always had a hard time with Tyson. Only fighter-type that was able to stop Tyson were the Physically stronger ones with longer reach and height. But again, as I've said before, this is just my personal opinion.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

Well that's like arguing that Tyson would loose because another peekaboo style fighter also trained by Cus Damato , (Floyd Patterson) lost to Ali. The question is, how good is the fighter using the style. None of Tyson's competition was 1 tenth of Ali. Furthermore Ali was physically stronger than Tyson with more height and reach. He would clinch and control him on the inside when things got close and dominate him on the outside.

[saulhudson420]

@Onieracraft Ali was physically stronger than Tyson? What kind of drugs are you on?

[Onieracraft]

@saulhudson420

I'm on air, what kind of drugs are YOU on?

Every taller guy Tyson fought moved him around easily on the inside, the issue was his PUNCHING POWER. Ali was 6 '3' and around the same weight as Tillis, and a lot of the the rest of those guys.

if Ali could wrestle with Big George on the inside, little Tyson isn't an issue.

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft there is a difference between allowing people to move you in order to not gas out, and actually making an effort to push back. Ali was 208lbs in his prime? Tyson was shorter and 220. That's a 12lbs difference in muscle. Tyson was more powerful than Ali, and stronger. Ali however had faster hands, and better accuracy...which is the only thing I cannot discard.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

Well Tyson was easily pushed back by the taller James Tillis as i already mentioned, who weighed in at 215 (Ali's highest fight weight was 214 before his 3 year lay off )

Infact the only fighter that weighed in at 220 or more among those that i named that went 10 or 12 rounds with Tyson was Tony Tucker, but they were all taller.

Once again, the idea that these men who were one step above bums, and who were also koed by other fighters, would last twice as long as Ali is far fetched

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

Tillis, Ribalta, Smith, Tucker,and Green are one step above bums and they lasted 10 or 12 rounds against prime Tyson. Ali gets knocked out in 5?! Furthermore all of them except Tucker were Koed by other guys (who were also one step above bums for the most part) . Ali was never koed in his entire 21 year career.

You cam see from these stats how outlandish this prediction seems.

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft It all boils down to the fighter, Ali was knocked down senseless in the last round in the first frazier fight. Personal opinion, Frazier was not half the explosive, fast and skillfull fighter Tyson was. The only way I could see Ali breaking Tyson's bubble is by mental warfare. On physical basis, I seriously doubt Ali could stand after being hit by Tyson. People mention the foreman fight, but I believe Foreman would have won 9/10 times against Ali.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz "I seriously doubt Ali could stand after being hit by Tyson.'

Now besides the fact that slower less skilled third rate fighters who were koed by other guys survived without being Koed by Tyson (and ones who were the same size as Ali). There is also the fact that Ali took rounds of punches from two fighters who punch harder than Tyson. Foreman and Shavers. Holyfield said Foreman hit him harder than any other fighter, and Holmes said Shavers hit harder than Tyson.

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft and also, you can never know for sure if they actually punched harder than Tyson. There are no measurements. Had people actually measured the psi, I'd go along with that argument. And there is noway shavers hit harder than Tyson...just no.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

You just argued that there was no way to know for sure, then you concluded that there was "no way". Let's just say that there is more evidence for it than against it, we have first hand testimonial on it. Many Boxing experts buy it, and even Tyson states it on this video. The problem is people think for some weird reason that just because someone can punch hard, they should be a great fighter. Shavers quite frankly couldn't even Box well, yet he has the highest Ko win ratio in history

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

Shavers Koed Ron Lyle, the only man to ever brawl head to head with prime Foreman and knock him down. He koed Ken Norton in the first round, all of this while being a subpar Boxer. Tyson didn't Ko fighters with just power, he did it with skill and precision. This is why the later Tyson was nowhere near as successful at Koing people as the younger one was. He still had his power, It's a well known fact that power is the last thing to go in a fighter, but he didn't have his skill

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

Sure, there is no way to know any of this for sure, but given Tyson's performance against fighters that were not even half of what Ali was, the evidence for a 5th round Ko is rather weak.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

An Ali already afflicted with the early stages of Parkinson's disease and who's reflexes are gone, takes shot after shot (15 rounds) from Shavers, the man many Boxing historians call the hardest puncher in the history of the sport. Now imagine an Ali with the speed and reflexes of his youth.

As for Frazier's knock down, you forget that this is after 15 rounds of work to the body by Frazier. Tyson fades at around 5 or 6, as you yourself admitted.

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft Prime Tyson hardly faded before the 10th round...he actually went against ribalta for 10 rounds throwing constant powerpunches and combinations and seemed unphased at the end of 10th...I think the problem is everyone underestimates Tyson's conditioning, aswell as Ali's toughness. Ali fought with a broken jaw vs Norton, and Tyson is probably the only man I have seen to be peppered by Holyfield, Douglas and Lewis with 20+ shots before going down. Let's just leave it to our fantasies.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz Well I don't think anyone with any knowledge of Boxing has ever underestimated Ali's toughness/ability to take punishment. He fought 21 years without being Koed once. Now even you earlier in the discussion conceded that Tyson began to slow down after around 5 or 6. This was true especially if he was dealing with an opponent who wasn't just standing there, and was making things difficult for him (Tucker, Tillis) .

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

As someone else already mentioned, James "Quick" Tillis himself was simply a third rate Ali

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft and Tillis got dominated with ease. Green got dominated with ease losing 8-2, 9-1 and 8-2.

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

" if you think Ali was faster on his feet than Tyson...then you are a retard."

You must think that the majority of the Boxing community are retards.

And reading your commentary overall you have no idea what you're talking about.

[gentorz]

@Onieracraft suppose you do? So by your reply, you really think Ali was faster than Tyson?

[Onieracraft]

@gentorz

a whole lot of people think Ali was faster than Tyson.

[MrRamson27]

CLASSIC!!

[hashead19]

@Friendly420Tokes sos ya girl after i fuck her all night bitch

[benwety95]

i tell you, ali would have absolutely destroyed tyson, tyson was a good fighter but as he said, ali really was the greatest. Heres a thought though, if there was a fight, who would win, smokin joe Frazier or Tyson??

There are too many good ones though, when you think about Foreman, Ali, Frazier, Lyle, spinks, norton, liston and of course my favourite: EARNIE SHAVERS!

[smokinlefthook]

ali, sugar and tyson

legends

[Alpito123]

MIKE TYSON IS THE KING!!!

[pav2007]

I love to see a very modest Ali and Tyson!! Apart from being one of the greatest boxer of all time, Ali also had the best gift of the gab!! It was a joy to watch his interviews!

[thehitchrules]

@pav2007 Gift of the jab too !!!

[WatchVenusSpa]

While I think Hagler was a far better champion than Sugar Ray, Ray was the greater star. Just an epic segment!

[hashead19]

ali is punch drike from all the yearis of taking so maney pucnhs to the head its sad to see him like this he should have packed boxing in erailer instade of trying to hold on to the limelight he woulding have ended up like this if he just had of stoptd sooner

[redhead5150]

Tyson was a class act to Ali. Lots of respect for both of them, had respect for Sugar Ray until he screwed Marvin Hagler.

[dronken]

@redhead5150 hello redhead :) i wouldnt say he screwd hagler i thought hagler just got frustrated cus sugar wasnt playing his game, ray did what he had to do to win, brilliant fight to watch i was a massive hagler fan at the time i saw that fight and wanted him to win sooo bad

[1901xBOY]

"you in trouble sucka"

[im2PacsFather]

@1901xBOY shut up bitch

[1901xBOY]

@im2PacsFather ???, fuck you pussy, go act tough somewhere else on the web! insecure ass mouthafuker FUCK YOU!!!!

[im2PacsFather]

@1901xBOY get mad

[1901xBOY]

"you in trouble sucka"

[samman622]

@BuriedWithHipHop you are right. but he shouldnt leave prejudice any where.

[miekaiel20]

i dont want your hands i want your wallets hahahahahha he is the best

[mjprimetime23]

"i dont want your hand, i want your wallet" LMAO I LOVE MUHAMMAD ALI !

[666Andrewroy]

Parkesons disease

[02111986vineelreddy]

but then again why is he so slow in speaking?

[Netertaat]

@02111986vineelreddy my goodness ppl still dont kno muhammad has parkesons disease?

[MRX31605]

@02111986vineelreddy because his disease was starting to take over him

[02111986vineelreddy]

such modesty... Respect.

[GUZIGAR]

The only African American talk show is canceled it was a sad day in the world we better get him back on tv

[213gloom]

@GUZIGAR what about Opera ?

[BenWatts1]

Amazing TV,3 Boxing Legends,thanks for Posting!

[MsHbX]

muhammAd ali not muhammed

[jabri11]

@MsHbX same name different spellings

[marintoss]

Great show! I wish I could watch it in better quality! And to hear Ali's voice a bit better! This is great.. :)

[SuperRameez100]

Awesome interview, the quality lets it down but even audio on this wud be amazing! Legends of the Game!

[fuey35]

i carnt help but think tyson would av kod the master ali in both of there youth just my apinion

[BRUMTOWNTRU]

great video

[King3047]

is that joe fraizer in the middle?

[Omnio1506]

@King3047 It's Sugar Ray Leonard :)

[Thefighterspider]

Damn it's need subtitles so freakin bad

[B19HH]

@Thefighterspider press the CC button near the full screen button and that should give you subtitles

[mokefluture]

great show man great....great like ALI ...

[TheHideg8]

Olyan aranyos ez a pasi.

[KINKIRISNAKI]

i think Ali was high

[956crazyman19]

@KINKIRISNAKI no he wasnt why would he be high he doesnt do that shit

[macnastee]

@KINKIRISNAKI Don't be ignorant. The man has Parkinson's disease.

[shabbashoaib]

Tysons elbow is bigger than my house,,,,

[killernaval]

It's crazy how witty and smart Ali is even though he's so mentally fragile

[wwekraze111]

Aint It Wierd That All Three Boxer's Here on this show Lost There Last 2 Matches in there boxing Career Strange!

[globalplayer1988]

what a kodak moment at 5:18

[TheM47]

That has to be the best talk show guest list I have ever watched..

[JigglesJingle]

Mike Tyson vs Ali in their prime, I'd put Mike Tyson ahead. He was more aggressive and threw faster punches, but the all time all around boxer of the 20th century was Rocky Marciano, the record of 49-0 speaks for itself.

[wesfresh]

@JigglesJingle it's hard to compare athlete's in different era's but foreman most definitely hit harder than mike tyson. then again it's not the one punch power that matters, it's where they land and how many are thrown. tyson's technique was much greater than foreman's but if it came down to it i don't think tyson had the mental strength to beat ali. in his prime, every fight that went down to a boxing match he never did that well, like mitch green for example. it's a good fantasy fight though!

[cjnovo15]

@JigglesJingle i agree completely people seem not to mention rocky marciano

[CalvinKarass]

@JigglesJingle Marciano, a great fighter no doubt, but definately not the greatest. Technically not the best boxer, and although he did box against some good names, when he fought agaist them they were in their late 30s which is a lot in boxing terms. It's also said that he couldn't possibly have won his first fight against Roland La Starza in a points decission. That said, I have masses of respect for anyone who chooses to earn their living this way... professional boxers are hard as nails.

[BRUMTOWNTRU]

one good champ [sugar] one great champ [ali] the greatest champ of all time tyson

[MrLukedanger]

@BRUMTOWNTRU good champ tyson great champ sugar greatest ali, birmingham bitch

[BRUMTOWNTRU]

@MrLukedanger yh what ever you pussy getting brave on you tube

[amiboss23KA]

which year is that interview ?

[HarYHel]

@amiboss23KA Look at descriprion

[amiboss23KA]

@HarYHel

oh ok

[strghtballer]

cheers for the upload.

[michelesempre1]

What shame to see Ali in this state, but i still love him.My dad told me never to do boxe because one of the greatest got parkinson from all the hits he tooked, now i know what he ment.And this was a long time ago.

[weezzy42]

I love 2 be in that audience just 2 feel the vibe



[craigfromnewcastle]

with due respect to the fighters, this program has dated very badly eh? Good to have it though.

[fahd2020ful]

ALI I WILL DIE FOR U

[Chex2331]

"I was 10"

"I wasn't born yet I don't believe"

lol

[Khani2k9]

This has to go down as the greatest interview of all time

[zombiekippen]

4:48

[BuriedWithHipHop]

@sagrocket dude if your gonna come on here an leave prejudice, ignorant comments please go do that elsewhere. We came on this video to admire 4 great legends. 1 comedian and 3 boxing legends. But if your gonna leave comments like that please do it elsewhere. I'm asking nicely.

[saleemkr]

godfather

[thetallhaplayer]

the disease has gotten him out of shape :(, but he could still kick my ass