I have to agree with Steve Jobs on Flash. I never used Flash even before HTML5 existed. I found that I could do everything I needed with JavaScript and DHTML.
@blenheimears It's worth noting that Apple also forbids Mono/Unity, Panda3d, Java, etc.: any web plugin that executes code through a custom VM/interpreter. Apple didn't seem to mention that part to its consumers.
lol i just went to some company to make a webpage, and they ask me do i want flash. I said or yes why not ,no problem, and they ask me again are you sure, because you cant view on iphone. So i said oh i did not think about that, so i said need simple one. Flash is dead nobody wants that stupid game anymore.
FLASH IS NOT DEAD AS LONG AS YOU GO ON UR APPLE PHONES IPODS IPADS E.C.T YOU ALLS WAYS NEED FLASH IF YOU WANNA SEE MORE THEN YOUTUBE VIDEOS YOU GOING TO NEED FLASH.. I GOT A I POHONE AND A HTC AND FLASH ON MY HTC IS PRETTY GOOD I USE IT MORE THE MY IPHONE .. ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE STOP ALL THE BS IN JUST PUT FLASH IN THE APPLE PHONES IPODS IPADS E.C.T PLZ
Been Flash free for over a year now. I use YouTube 5 for Safari, which loads ALL YouTube videos in HTML 5 without ads. Adobe Ad Player is useless for anything but ads.
@SuperDav3 I totally agree. I haven't had one problem regarding slowness or freezing on Flash content, and even if I did, I would just go to task manager and force quit and restart. Simple as that.
@ShadowriverUB depends...CSS3 has 3d too...but really depends on ur application..i say webgl is not needed till ur makign a game or an app that needs GPU accellerated graphics.
@digerpaji i know CSS3 got 3D, but you can only transform HTML object like Images, so you, wont do 3D models other then simple shapes. Also CSS is GPU a
accelerated too if browser does that, just look how smooth CSS3 works on iPhone
I kind of agree. Sometimes on my MacBook I can see flash going super slow and crashing. Imagining that on a tiny little phone would be crazy. Sure most of the web's video may be in flash, but look at the tons of mobile sites we see, and plus the fact that half of the flash videos play anyway somehow.
@NicksLocker Well actually, most modern phones can handle flash pretty well.
I've got an HTC Desire HD, which isn't the newest device on the market and Flash actually works okay. (I do watch full-screen video's with Flash regularly)
However I do agree that Flash is at its decline. It's a propitiatory technology that is still pretty power-expensive. (However, it does work decently, just not perfect).
The future of the web should be open, the future should be HTML5.
@Sjoerdd93 HTML5 is designed to be as extensible as its predecessors. That means support for embeddable content displayed through browser plugins (Java, Flash, Unity, etc). Apple forbids all of these, HTML5 does not. HTML5 *is* open, and that's great, but Apple does not support the full HTML 5 spec: they ban all kinds of content that HTML 5 supports because that content treads a fine line between *application* and *web content*, and Apple wans all apps provided through the iStore.
While html5 is cool, flash is NOT dead, and probably wont be for a while.
I agree, flash has its slowdowns and stuff like that. But back when it was macromedia, it wasn't so bad. Adobe does not know what they are doing. Every flash update includes so many new bugs, and that is the program itself, not the player.
I think that flash will always be around, everyone knows it is used most for the web.
they just need to stop dicking around and rewrite the players code completely.
Flash is dead software. It was designed back in the 90's when most computers didn't have a GPU, they were mostly CPU only, so in the 00's when computers started shipping with GPU's the flaws of Flash already started showing their ugly face. Jump forward 10 years, and you have this crap software trying to run on phones and computers, only using the CPU, killing battery life, causing fans to crank on in no time flat, and just in general being a waste of time. We need to move on.
@Nanofuture87 yes and that's the reason why html5 is getting more popular and popular? your own sentence shows us that you rely on old stuff (in this case junk) and don't think forward-looking.
@mannem88 No, it shows that I want to be able to enjoy all multimedia web content on a device that is primarily a multimedia player. Flash really should have been at least an option considering that it is available on virtually every other system (windows, osx, linux, android, etc.).
@cookieyy Yep, until the vast majority of sites that now use flash switch over to html5. I'd rather have a sucky platform that displays then content that I want than an excellent platform that doesn't.
@mannem88 Forward-thinking? You know that JavaScript is older than Flash right? It was introduced in 1995 by Netscape. Also this has nothing to do with HTML5 because HTML5 supports embeddable MIME types (Flash, Java, Unity, WebGL, etc). Apple forbids all of these so it's basically providing crippled support for HTML5.
@1990Italian YouTube is already engraved into apple products. It only doesn't work when you go on a website with a video that requires a flash or adobe.
@stevejobsays You do realize that mobile flash plug - in is dead and not flash technology do you? With "Abobe Air" flash content will be on ios & android without a plug in!! Ever hear of a game called Machinarium? it's was the number 1 game on the app store last month! And it's made with flash! Dummy!
Flash just put on a new costume and the idiots think is gone! lol
@mabz9 Not all videos are Flash or you could not have youtube on the iPhone, iPad, or iPod. Just so you understand Youtube gives you the choice of extension you can use.
@stevejobsays Jobs rules? It's more like doing something else now, like nothing. True is, Adobe dropped Flash mobile after Microsoft told them that they wasn't going to support plugin in IE.
There that reality distortion field that Jobs is so famous for. Flash is much more than a way to play video as implied here, and its not about Apple spending energy or resources. either. It's a programming tool that could run on iOS that's not controlled by Apple. Not just flash but all programming tools that don't allow apple 100% control are disallowed. In Jobs view-- protectionism is a core element of the iPhone's/iPad success.
I admit that flash isn't perfect, but the majority of the web is still flash, and I still cannot access many video sites from my iPod Touch. I want to love apple with all my heart, but things like this, lack of microSD in their handsets, lack of 4G, and slightly high prices keep me from apple fanboyism.
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@Hearts64 agreed, jobs was real good at brainwashing people and convincing people to buy his product and that all other phones were crap, i have a motorola atrix, FULL HTML 5 support AND FULL adobe flash 11 support, was that so hard, to just have BOTH? apple shoud give the customers what they want, NOT what they think is best for them.....but then again, as i stated above, apple brainwashes people to think that they need the limited capabilities of the iphone.
@fallen4life080 yes u don't realize that it took 5 years for flash to run on any smartphone, and I'm not talking flash lite which was total BS an sucked ass. so it took till the iPhone 4 to get another smartphone to run flash, and still your flash support is not full, as most websites with flash are not touch enabled so that it does not work correct the big sites have adapted but its still not like a desktop experience. i would like flash but i also have never missed flash, web sites adapted.
Flash, especially the new Flash Professionals, is shit.
They are so complicated and easy to crash. If I did not do backup (which luckily I did), days and days of work will just disappear in front of my eyes *poof* Ouch
he fails to realize that we don't want to open up a fucking youtube app to watch videos. we want the desktop version of youtube and other sites not the stripped down mobile versions.
@bigbrowncheifbottom and you fail to realize that flash is old and slow as shit mate. I animate in flash and it's bloated as hell. a mobile device can not run flash seriously without a major hit on battery. Hence the reason for apple not using it. If anything complain to adobe for not making a smaller faster product it's there problem really.
@ECampbellWORX iphone's battery is horrible WITHOUT flash, you would think iphone's battery would never die out. so explain that, i have a motorola Atrix 4G, full HTML 5 support and full Flash support, and it's battery life is way better than my iphone 4. plus my atrix opens and runs apps ON AVERAGE just as fast as my friends new iphone 4s (some things were slower on mine some slower on his).
@vtran31 run youtube great, has a custom HTML 5 player that works like a dream... Youtube even has a new mobile site that works great with HTML 5 also. infact the mobile youtube is like 10 times better then the iphones default app.
@ECampbellWORX Sorry but honestly, are you serious? I love browsing stuff on my hp touchpad because hey, everything including flash works! There isn't a website I cannot access or see what's on it.
With an Ipad or and Apple product, you can only look at Apple's youtube, use Apple's websites without flash, because hey if there's adobe products on the screen nothing shows.
@ECampbellWORX I really don't see adobe having any problems with flash in the future.
Seriously. Adobe and flash run everyday on nearly billions of machines.
All working happily, and productively.
I have all of my machines running flash, and um, There isn't really anything that I can complain about.
It's a beautiful thing.
Problem steve has with adobe and flash, is that he can't control adobe's product. Hence, he doesn't want it on his machines, much to the demise of his customers.
@AzBirdDog You know thats really funny, because Adobe actually announced yesterday that they were going to stop putting flash on mobile devices. Guess what they're switching to! HTML 5!!! Seems like Apple was right the whole time.
@ECampbellWORX its true, when trying out some basic game making i used flash to try it out and it lagged like hell, when i tried another platform it was smooth
heres some factual numbers: just watching this youtube video uses around 150MB of my RAM and about 13% of my cpu compared to itunes when playing Avatar on my computer uses about 140MB of RAM and about 7% of the cpu
so you can easily see that it wouldn't take much web browsing using flash to quickly hog up the computers resources
it's so obvious why apple is anti flash. it would be like digging your own grave. get over it people. also web browsers were never ever designed for running full fledged apps. or any apps. The name "browser" is what it is. to browse.
@asdxar because you have been living under a rock? No just kidding :) html 5 has been on the rise quite some time now but it's kinda still in the baby stage (if that makes sense).
@Gontzal7 the difference is apple dont have a virtual monopoly in the phone/tablet market the way microsoft did with the pc. When you get to near monopoly status different laws apply. So sometimes its beneficial to not totally dominate the market :)
@Gontzal7 also, microsoft often got in trouble for providing faulty support for other technologies, like the buggy jvm they put in windows XP, at least apple were straight up and were clear about not supportingt flash on iDevices from day one.
What most of you are forgetting is that Adobe Flash is still the MOST POPULAR used format for videos and animations on the internet. Therefore it should be the standard for every tech company. Apple have made that single mistake of 'trying to think differently' and create devices that don't run a standard that the whole world uses. Most of you are probably going 'so what? HTLM5 is better and runs smoother than flash' well guess what? Apple's safari browser runs HTLM5 like shit, even IE is better
All of you are dickheads and dnt know what ur talking about
IF YOU KNOW MIRE ABOUT THE INTERNET ETC ETC GO AND WORK FOR FUCKIN APPLE DO ALL UR COMPLAINING TO THEM APPLE IS BETTER THAN WINDOWS CRAP WINDOWS= virus REMEMBER THAT NOW FUCK OFF AND SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DON'T WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEOS U DICK FACES
I understand the arguments for HTML5 over flash, but since a lot of content on the web is still only flash based, why didn't they support it at least in the interim until HTML5 properly matures, instead of disenfranchising their customers for so many years?!
Flash can be replaced by other alternatives, and for a lot of people, it is quite unstable.
That said, I design, and animate in Flash almost every day. I think for a professional, flash is a decent creative tool. It however is more or less, crap for the general internet consumer.
Well, I create flash content on my mac every day in CS5, formerly CS3 and 8 Pro, and I can say that flash has become incredibly bloated with each release, Seriously. I export much of my animation to Flash for rendering, and flash has become very problematic in that aspect. In fact, to render any flash content for a final export, you need after affects, as Flash skips frames, some objects don't render, yadda yadda. I like flash, but I think it doesn't work as well as it use to.
It's funny how you need dual core 1.2 Ghtz processors to run as fast as iPhones. Don't go blabbing about shit you have no idea about. Go ahead, try me.
Steve failed! Thanks to this "slow" and "unoptimized" , we've got dual core cpu's in our mobiles!! Flash is something that boasts companies to make better hardware
Look stupid, you design computers that can't play 75% of videos and games on the web w/o using 3rd party software. Trust me; the only reason your profiting is because of jail breaking and the apple name. Apple force feeds the public a software that's limiting in game editing and they call it the future. Flash is coding and you are functionality. I never heard of a computer company trying to resign the internet instead of there own computers.
@FactionArts You can do videocalls in HD, you have an HD video recording and iMovie to edit vids, you have the app store, the iTunes store, which means download music and apps, you can play 3D games, watch YouTube in HD, upload n égare vifs in HD, you have easier user interface, and much more I don't remember, and I don't know that will be on iOS 5. I know Android phones are faster, but in my opinion that's because the Android phones dont have 326 pixels per inch. iPhone are very fast though
hey assholes..youtube uses flash!!
PAMMASHERGILL 5 days ago
@PAMMASHERGILL sooo... ur point?
Xaahu 14 hours ago
I agree with Steve. Flash is not where it needs to be to run on the iDevices and hopefully if they clean it up, Apple will support them.
donnieval2 5 days ago
could watch this video because i dont have flash on my mac
AuthorBuzz 5 days ago
I have to agree with Steve Jobs on Flash. I never used Flash even before HTML5 existed. I found that I could do everything I needed with JavaScript and DHTML.
blenheimears 1 week ago
@blenheimears It's worth noting that Apple also forbids Mono/Unity, Panda3d, Java, etc.: any web plugin that executes code through a custom VM/interpreter. Apple didn't seem to mention that part to its consumers.
stinky472 1 week ago
life if u r watching this on flash
smadgerbadger 3 weeks ago
lol i just went to some company to make a webpage, and they ask me do i want flash. I said or yes why not ,no problem, and they ask me again are you sure, because you cant view on iphone. So i said oh i did not think about that, so i said need simple one. Flash is dead nobody wants that stupid game anymore.
klutch20 4 weeks ago
You need flash for a lot YouTube videos too, that's the one thing I dislike about my iPhone.
emilyinbetweener 1 month ago
@emilyinbetweener You even used iPhone that you saying something like that? :p
ShadowriverUB 4 weeks ago
FLASH IS NOT DEAD AS LONG AS YOU GO ON UR APPLE PHONES IPODS IPADS E.C.T YOU ALLS WAYS NEED FLASH IF YOU WANNA SEE MORE THEN YOUTUBE VIDEOS YOU GOING TO NEED FLASH.. I GOT A I POHONE AND A HTC AND FLASH ON MY HTC IS PRETTY GOOD I USE IT MORE THE MY IPHONE .. ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE STOP ALL THE BS IN JUST PUT FLASH IN THE APPLE PHONES IPODS IPADS E.C.T PLZ
Submission910 1 month ago
lol prime example of Jobs bending reality in this vid, at that time not having flash was a massive leak in an iphone/pad
lockoshamface 1 month ago
Been Flash free for over a year now. I use YouTube 5 for Safari, which loads ALL YouTube videos in HTML 5 without ads. Adobe Ad Player is useless for anything but ads.
iBoy2G 1 month ago
I hate to say this, but I don't recommend Ipads or IPhones for anything good on the Internet.
SuperDav3 1 month ago
@SuperDav3 What is Anything good?
glickle 1 month ago
I disagree with allot.
1. He said flash was slow. My Android phone does flash about as fast as a good PC.
2. The HTML 5 is good when it works... but many of the browsers including my Ipad 2 can't do many of the HTML 5 pages.
3. Even drawing animated javascript pages in HTML 5 on the IPAD or IPHONE can get REAL slow. On a HTML5 page that draws 50 small moving images, I got
50 fps on a Desktop
30 fps on My Android Phone
Even on a mac I got about 30 fps, but
but for the IPad I get about 2 fps....
SuperDav3 1 month ago
@SuperDav3 I totally agree. I haven't had one problem regarding slowness or freezing on Flash content, and even if I did, I would just go to task manager and force quit and restart. Simple as that.
Nilokster 1 month ago
@SuperDav3 1. Try HTML5 YouTube player and compire ;]
2. It can, but if you men ogv and webm then yes iPad has a problem here
3.Thats why you should use CSS3 instead of JS for webpage animation, which on iOS (and not only) it work like buity
ShadowriverUB 4 weeks ago
@ShadowriverUB LOOK AT WEB GL WATER and then decide
digerpaji 3 weeks ago
@digerpaji decide what? CSS3 or WebGL? as long you don't need to make water andjust keying effects CSS3 is way to go
ShadowriverUB 3 weeks ago
@ShadowriverUB depends...CSS3 has 3d too...but really depends on ur application..i say webgl is not needed till ur makign a game or an app that needs GPU accellerated graphics.
digerpaji 2 weeks ago
@digerpaji i know CSS3 got 3D, but you can only transform HTML object like Images, so you, wont do 3D models other then simple shapes. Also CSS is GPU a
accelerated too if browser does that, just look how smooth CSS3 works on iPhone
ShadowriverUB 2 weeks ago
I kind of agree. Sometimes on my MacBook I can see flash going super slow and crashing. Imagining that on a tiny little phone would be crazy. Sure most of the web's video may be in flash, but look at the tons of mobile sites we see, and plus the fact that half of the flash videos play anyway somehow.
NicksLocker 2 months ago
@NicksLocker Well actually, most modern phones can handle flash pretty well.
I've got an HTC Desire HD, which isn't the newest device on the market and Flash actually works okay. (I do watch full-screen video's with Flash regularly)
However I do agree that Flash is at its decline. It's a propitiatory technology that is still pretty power-expensive. (However, it does work decently, just not perfect).
The future of the web should be open, the future should be HTML5.
Sjoerdd93 1 month ago
@Sjoerdd93 HTML5 is designed to be as extensible as its predecessors. That means support for embeddable content displayed through browser plugins (Java, Flash, Unity, etc). Apple forbids all of these, HTML5 does not. HTML5 *is* open, and that's great, but Apple does not support the full HTML 5 spec: they ban all kinds of content that HTML 5 supports because that content treads a fine line between *application* and *web content*, and Apple wans all apps provided through the iStore.
stinky472 1 week ago
HTML5 is the future.
poserboy2012 2 months ago
Let's all face it.
While html5 is cool, flash is NOT dead, and probably wont be for a while.
I agree, flash has its slowdowns and stuff like that. But back when it was macromedia, it wasn't so bad. Adobe does not know what they are doing. Every flash update includes so many new bugs, and that is the program itself, not the player.
I think that flash will always be around, everyone knows it is used most for the web.
they just need to stop dicking around and rewrite the players code completely.
vgmp 2 months ago
@vgmp Flash won't die for a while, mobile flash is dead, flash sucks.
iCocobowman3 2 months ago
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vgmp 2 months ago
@vgmp Your profile picture is fucking gay.
iCocobowman3 2 months ago
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vgmp 2 months ago
@vgmp Excuse me?
iCocobowman3 2 months ago
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vgmp 2 months ago
@vgmp Nigger please, shut the fuck up.
iCocobowman3 2 months ago
Am I going deaf?
Kamasutra6901 2 months ago
Boy you think with being as rich as this guy was he would have had some more modern stylish glasses.
3rdshifted 2 months ago
I suddenly like steve jobs now, DOWN WITH ADOBE!!!
Gtlgrid 2 months ago
I just watched this using flash...
davidtodor 2 months ago 2
@davidtodor I watched this without Flash
CMSSI 2 months ago
Flash is dead software. It was designed back in the 90's when most computers didn't have a GPU, they were mostly CPU only, so in the 00's when computers started shipping with GPU's the flaws of Flash already started showing their ugly face. Jump forward 10 years, and you have this crap software trying to run on phones and computers, only using the CPU, killing battery life, causing fans to crank on in no time flat, and just in general being a waste of time. We need to move on.
lannyboy333 2 months ago
"75% of the video on the web may be in flash"
Steve Jobs just admitted that the iphone / ipad are garbage for watching internet video content.
Nanofuture87 2 months ago
@Nanofuture87 yes and that's the reason why html5 is getting more popular and popular? your own sentence shows us that you rely on old stuff (in this case junk) and don't think forward-looking.
mannem88 2 months ago
@mannem88 No, it shows that I want to be able to enjoy all multimedia web content on a device that is primarily a multimedia player. Flash really should have been at least an option considering that it is available on virtually every other system (windows, osx, linux, android, etc.).
Nanofuture87 2 months ago
@Nanofuture87 on a software platform that sucks on a mobile device
cookieyy 2 months ago
@cookieyy Yep, until the vast majority of sites that now use flash switch over to html5. I'd rather have a sucky platform that displays then content that I want than an excellent platform that doesn't.
Nanofuture87 2 months ago
@mannem88 Forward-thinking? You know that JavaScript is older than Flash right? It was introduced in 1995 by Netscape. Also this has nothing to do with HTML5 because HTML5 supports embeddable MIME types (Flash, Java, Unity, WebGL, etc). Apple forbids all of these so it's basically providing crippled support for HTML5.
stinky472 1 week ago
Why not at least allow an app for flash? Steve Jobs has always been known as a control freak, and his company reflects it.
R.I.P. Steve Jobs
petercorduan 3 months ago
what an idiot, y not support both?
quis80jab 3 months ago
"we're tired of these guys trashing us in the press", just like those stupid MAC vs PC commercials, "post PC era" and all the stuff we know?
luismontreal 3 months ago
Flash - Steve Jobs: 1-0
SloterMFmeyer 3 months ago
There he is, Steve Blowjobs!
mabz9 3 months ago
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Jobs is my inspiration but he was wrong with flash
cheatdath 3 months ago
oh oh apple.. looks like we found your weak point on iPhone!
Julin2Dominican 3 months ago
@1990Italian YouTube is already engraved into apple products. It only doesn't work when you go on a website with a video that requires a flash or adobe.
iAmSaintCharlie 3 months ago
@1990italian
U dumbass idevice user can watch this video billion times on the YOUTUBE APP that build directly build into the devices....stupid bitch
themomo1781 3 months ago
Yhh while you guys are watching this on your pc im watching this on my android with flash... Stupid iphone fanatics...
1990Italian 3 months ago 2
@1990Italian haha fail. there's a perfectly good YouTube App as standard on every iOS device :) it works perfectly well without flash.
TimothyGregoryMusic 3 months ago
Mobile flash is dead, Steve Jobs rules Bitches!!!!!
stevejobsays 3 months ago 49
@stevejobsays You do realize that mobile flash plug - in is dead and not flash technology do you? With "Abobe Air" flash content will be on ios & android without a plug in!! Ever hear of a game called Machinarium? it's was the number 1 game on the app store last month! And it's made with flash! Dummy!
Flash just put on a new costume and the idiots think is gone! lol
BeastlyRig 3 months ago
@stevejobsays so basically flash no longer needs a plug in yay!
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@stevejobsays and now steve jobs is dead
THUNDERBOLT013 3 months ago
@stevejobsays Without flash you wouldn't be watching this video.
mabz9 3 months ago
@mabz9 Not all videos are Flash or you could not have youtube on the iPhone, iPad, or iPod. Just so you understand Youtube gives you the choice of extension you can use.
WizzRacing 3 months ago
@mabz9
I'm watching on HTML5
memo4148 3 months ago
@stevejobsays Jobs rules? It's more like doing something else now, like nothing. True is, Adobe dropped Flash mobile after Microsoft told them that they wasn't going to support plugin in IE.
degoban 3 months ago
@stevejobsays u´ll be dead soon
vivivi14 3 months ago
@stevejobsays yeah html5 is taking over... sadly safari and html5 do not get along well so its not a great win
q1joe 3 months ago
@stevejobsays That's not the only thing that's dead.
MisterMarmatote 2 months ago
@stevejobsays He was right with flash as much as he was right with everything he ever said. He changed everything! He RULES!!!
iIanTV 2 months ago
@stevejobsays no stevejobs is dead and flash is alive
smadgerbadger 3 weeks ago
@stevejobsays hate to be the barer of bad news but actually Steve Jobs is dead.
philliphav 3 weeks ago
@stevejobsays Dead? I guess Jobs died first..
grabedigger 5 days ago
Flash needs to be dropped - it doesn't have a place in todays space...!
leesmallwood 3 months ago
@leesmallwood yea it too slow if google said it it crashes the websites
martinezmarcio1 3 months ago
He was right, adobe just stop the development of flash on mobile devices
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TheMehhh77 3 months ago
wait, so you can't see YouTube on iPad?? I don't get it. YouTube is Flash, so...
I'm not using Apple products, and probably never will, but I just found out they don't use Flash.
niktoTunes 3 months ago
Too bad he wasn't alive to see it cancelled for Android
Triggahappi273 3 months ago 3
Thumps up if watch this Video after adobe announcement about flash player!
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He sounds like Ron Paul... 2012!
riotuesday 3 months ago
There that reality distortion field that Jobs is so famous for. Flash is much more than a way to play video as implied here, and its not about Apple spending energy or resources. either. It's a programming tool that could run on iOS that's not controlled by Apple. Not just flash but all programming tools that don't allow apple 100% control are disallowed. In Jobs view-- protectionism is a core element of the iPhone's/iPad success.
TheCumulusClimber 3 months ago
I admit that flash isn't perfect, but the majority of the web is still flash, and I still cannot access many video sites from my iPod Touch. I want to love apple with all my heart, but things like this, lack of microSD in their handsets, lack of 4G, and slightly high prices keep me from apple fanboyism.
quentenburnett 3 months ago
i cranked my volume up to hear this, and then someone called me on skype and now i cant hear anything
thefamilyk 3 months ago
What show is this from??
ColtynSeifert 3 months ago
@hearts64
Yeah... Flash might be on 95.71% of browsers..... just like floppy disks were on 95% of PC's.
Until they weren't.
Like horse-and-buggys were on 100% of streets. Until.... they weren't anymore.
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Good for you, Steve!
MrRakav 3 months ago
@00010101110100010101 umm almost every major video site has adapted to html 5. flash is still around but html5 is huge now
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
He sounds like a little bitch complaining, Flash player is installed on 95.71% of browsers...
Hearts64 4 months ago
@Hearts64 agreed, jobs was real good at brainwashing people and convincing people to buy his product and that all other phones were crap, i have a motorola atrix, FULL HTML 5 support AND FULL adobe flash 11 support, was that so hard, to just have BOTH? apple shoud give the customers what they want, NOT what they think is best for them.....but then again, as i stated above, apple brainwashes people to think that they need the limited capabilities of the iphone.
fallen4life080 4 months ago
@fallen4life080 yes u don't realize that it took 5 years for flash to run on any smartphone, and I'm not talking flash lite which was total BS an sucked ass. so it took till the iPhone 4 to get another smartphone to run flash, and still your flash support is not full, as most websites with flash are not touch enabled so that it does not work correct the big sites have adapted but its still not like a desktop experience. i would like flash but i also have never missed flash, web sites adapted.
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Damn the volume is so low.. aah. it's FLASH.
*i see what you did there*
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jaldesai 4 months ago
Android rules.
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BarryDong 4 months ago
Flash, especially the new Flash Professionals, is shit.
They are so complicated and easy to crash. If I did not do backup (which luckily I did), days and days of work will just disappear in front of my eyes *poof* Ouch
gaoym 4 months ago
For the past month I have been experiencing Flash and Shockwave has been causing both my Chrome and IE browsers to constaily crash.
prowler82 4 months ago
dont miss that douchebag!
michaelwach 4 months ago
@michaelwach thats rude just because your a microsoft fanboy doesent mean you should be happy he died your just sad
piercejustin0 4 months ago
he fails to realize that we don't want to open up a fucking youtube app to watch videos. we want the desktop version of youtube and other sites not the stripped down mobile versions.
bigbrowncheifbottom 4 months ago
@bigbrowncheifbottom and you fail to realize that flash is old and slow as shit mate. I animate in flash and it's bloated as hell. a mobile device can not run flash seriously without a major hit on battery. Hence the reason for apple not using it. If anything complain to adobe for not making a smaller faster product it's there problem really.
ECampbellWORX 4 months ago 13
@ECampbellWORX iphone's battery is horrible WITHOUT flash, you would think iphone's battery would never die out. so explain that, i have a motorola Atrix 4G, full HTML 5 support and full Flash support, and it's battery life is way better than my iphone 4. plus my atrix opens and runs apps ON AVERAGE just as fast as my friends new iphone 4s (some things were slower on mine some slower on his).
fallen4life080 4 months ago
@ECampbellWORX how does it run youtube videos??
vtran31 3 months ago
@vtran31 ........... Its not running flash when it does that, its actually running an app, which is not made using flash.
Spiritpact 3 months ago
@Spiritpact ......I dont understand. anytime flash crashes on chrome at home, youtube crashes too. does apple make an emulator or somethin???
vtran31 3 months ago
@vtran31 run youtube great, has a custom HTML 5 player that works like a dream... Youtube even has a new mobile site that works great with HTML 5 also. infact the mobile youtube is like 10 times better then the iphones default app.
ECampbellWORX 3 months ago 3
@ECampbellWORX Sorry but honestly, are you serious? I love browsing stuff on my hp touchpad because hey, everything including flash works! There isn't a website I cannot access or see what's on it.
With an Ipad or and Apple product, you can only look at Apple's youtube, use Apple's websites without flash, because hey if there's adobe products on the screen nothing shows.
Losuol 3 months ago
@ECampbellWORX I really don't see adobe having any problems with flash in the future.
Seriously. Adobe and flash run everyday on nearly billions of machines.
All working happily, and productively.
I have all of my machines running flash, and um, There isn't really anything that I can complain about.
It's a beautiful thing.
Problem steve has with adobe and flash, is that he can't control adobe's product. Hence, he doesn't want it on his machines, much to the demise of his customers.
Simple.
AzBirdDog 3 months ago
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TheMehhh77 3 months ago
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@AzBirdDog You know thats really funny, because Adobe actually announced yesterday that they were going to stop putting flash on mobile devices. Guess what they're switching to! HTML 5!!! Seems like Apple was right the whole time.
TheMehhh77 3 months ago
@TheMehhh77 Yeah, sure they are!
We all believe you, buddy! NOT!
HTML 5 has been in the works for how many years?
Still not mainstream yet? Of course it's not, BECAUSE EVERYTHING ON THE WEB IS FLASH! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AzBirdDog 3 months ago
@AzBirdDog I'm not bullshitting. Adobe has in fact cut out its mobile flash development and is switching to HTML 5. Look it up.
TheMehhh77 3 months ago 3
@AzBirdDog and then flash cancels there mobile flash development...
ECampbellWORX 3 months ago 4
@ECampbellWORX yes adobe withdrew its flash from entire mobile platform. Hence! html5 as steve said! !!!! good vision steve we miss you!
vidvivek2009 3 months ago 3
@ECampbellWORX its true, when trying out some basic game making i used flash to try it out and it lagged like hell, when i tried another platform it was smooth
rabitman3000 2 months ago
just give us flash!! I would love to stream right off the web!!! many people will agree... maybe with him dead, we will get flash now?? who knows.
Jx1x3 4 months ago
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@Jx1x3 you are piece of shit
papcyrill 4 months ago
Jeez for someone so smart, this guy's kinda dumb when looking at what the customers want...
sonicmfc1 4 months ago
Why can't they include it and just allow them to turn it on/off? Or is that to simple??
JohnDurhamGreen 4 months ago
wats with the volume?
xenofayth 4 months ago 39
@xenofayth There's volume?
TheKeekingSpiv 3 months ago
@xenofayth
Am just noob in video editing, see I use windows movie maker, I don't even understand why it does that...
stevejobsays 3 months ago 8
@stevejobsays that's why: WINDOWS movie maker.
trefliproductions 3 months ago
wtf is html5?? lol
TenTonTommy777 4 months ago
flash does stink
heres some factual numbers: just watching this youtube video uses around 150MB of my RAM and about 13% of my cpu compared to itunes when playing Avatar on my computer uses about 140MB of RAM and about 7% of the cpu
so you can easily see that it wouldn't take much web browsing using flash to quickly hog up the computers resources
vgking699 4 months ago
@vgking699 your using flash to watch this video
kak672 4 months ago
@kak672 Not if your on the iPhone or iPad watching this video.
Cyclonexman 4 months ago
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He was an amazing man, we lost him to soon :(
mustafanatior 4 months ago
it's so obvious why apple is anti flash. it would be like digging your own grave. get over it people. also web browsers were never ever designed for running full fledged apps. or any apps. The name "browser" is what it is. to browse.
futuremtt 4 months ago
"html5 is on the rise" then how come i've never heard of it until now?
asdxar 4 months ago
@asdxar because you have been living under a rock? No just kidding :) html 5 has been on the rise quite some time now but it's kinda still in the baby stage (if that makes sense).
Zonneke 4 months ago
@asdxar do you even know what html is?
funluver01 4 months ago
I always chuckle when my i-friends show me something on the web and mutter quietly "...I hope I can view it..."
enigmaj316 4 months ago
When Steve died his life didn't flash before his eyes.
sas1ni69 4 months ago
x.x sry ur dead dude, but im rly cheezed that safari sux.
r4microds 4 months ago
Flash is an amalgam of incompetence and dishonesty.
rbnn 4 months ago
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I found Steve Jobs Biography Book: /watch?v=TqJAJexptJE
ptpaid2yt 4 months ago
R.I.P Steve Jobs
wynrick1 4 months ago
fuck the status quo. change it. html5
graphiccorn 4 months ago
also you can play free games and content in flash that sell in the app store
dave00dance 4 months ago
if Microsoft does this kind of bulling they get an antitrust lawsuit, when apple does it on very shaky grounds at best they get away with it.
It's a disgrace and fits into the "big brother" apple mentality.
Gontzal7 5 months ago
@Gontzal7 the difference is apple dont have a virtual monopoly in the phone/tablet market the way microsoft did with the pc. When you get to near monopoly status different laws apply. So sometimes its beneficial to not totally dominate the market :)
trotskydolan 4 months ago
@Gontzal7 also, microsoft often got in trouble for providing faulty support for other technologies, like the buggy jvm they put in windows XP, at least apple were straight up and were clear about not supportingt flash on iDevices from day one.
trotskydolan 4 months ago
What most of you are forgetting is that Adobe Flash is still the MOST POPULAR used format for videos and animations on the internet. Therefore it should be the standard for every tech company. Apple have made that single mistake of 'trying to think differently' and create devices that don't run a standard that the whole world uses. Most of you are probably going 'so what? HTLM5 is better and runs smoother than flash' well guess what? Apple's safari browser runs HTLM5 like shit, even IE is better
shockwave2291 5 months ago
@shockwave2291 *HTML5* typing too fast :/
shockwave2291 5 months ago
Gimme flash on my ipad thats wi i bought an htc instead of ur crapphone
mountain885 5 months ago
Flash is bigest shit!!
DrHouse2004 5 months ago
All of you are dickheads and dnt know what ur talking about
IF YOU KNOW MIRE ABOUT THE INTERNET ETC ETC GO AND WORK FOR FUCKIN APPLE DO ALL UR COMPLAINING TO THEM APPLE IS BETTER THAN WINDOWS CRAP WINDOWS= virus REMEMBER THAT NOW FUCK OFF AND SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DON'T WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEOS U DICK FACES
officialdigimogames 5 months ago
Every website I go to nowadays uses html5 and I personally prefer it. Works much better than flash
OneHitKill91 6 months ago
I understand the arguments for HTML5 over flash, but since a lot of content on the web is still only flash based, why didn't they support it at least in the interim until HTML5 properly matures, instead of disenfranchising their customers for so many years?!
Uberdude25 6 months ago
Flash can be replaced by other alternatives, and for a lot of people, it is quite unstable.
That said, I design, and animate in Flash almost every day. I think for a professional, flash is a decent creative tool. It however is more or less, crap for the general internet consumer.
IMAGIMATIONanimation 6 months ago
Well, I create flash content on my mac every day in CS5, formerly CS3 and 8 Pro, and I can say that flash has become incredibly bloated with each release, Seriously. I export much of my animation to Flash for rendering, and flash has become very problematic in that aspect. In fact, to render any flash content for a final export, you need after affects, as Flash skips frames, some objects don't render, yadda yadda. I like flash, but I think it doesn't work as well as it use to.
IMAGIMATIONanimation 6 months ago
more like steve jobs on crack !!
darkdevil905 6 months ago
YEAH...SO WELL I HAVE A MACBOOK SO...FUCK FLASH HTML5 FTW !!!
darkdevil905 6 months ago
Steve Jobs owns a PC. ;)
EthonMullins 6 months ago
I love how Steve just says whatever he wants without any apparent sources.
AppleYanka 6 months ago
you need better hardware to run flash. imagine a gamer complaining rockstar people to make GTA fast enough to run on a pentium 4 processor...LOL
33ehsan 6 months ago 12
@33ehsan Man, Please take programming classes before saying that...
Linkipunk 4 months ago
@Linkipunk k
33ehsan 4 months ago
I got a i3-380m in my itouch just had it installed from some website I found that will put any processor in ur iPhone/itouch
JXxanimalxXA 6 months ago
It's funny how you need dual core 1.2 Ghtz processors to run as fast as iPhones. Don't go blabbing about shit you have no idea about. Go ahead, try me.
NGUpremier 6 months ago
Steve failed! Thanks to this "slow" and "unoptimized" , we've got dual core cpu's in our mobiles!! Flash is something that boasts companies to make better hardware
Phenom69ll 6 months ago
Look stupid, you design computers that can't play 75% of videos and games on the web w/o using 3rd party software. Trust me; the only reason your profiting is because of jail breaking and the apple name. Apple force feeds the public a software that's limiting in game editing and they call it the future. Flash is coding and you are functionality. I never heard of a computer company trying to resign the internet instead of there own computers.
johnnkidd 6 months ago
Why are android fan boys even watching this :P
LTEAndroid 6 months ago
@LTEAndroid Because we searched for it and it didn't happen to come up in related videos or recommended for you or anything logical like that.
Friedchikenz 6 months ago
shut up, Steve you fucking asshole, we don't want to be denied what we want.
TVperson1 7 months ago
@TVperson1 go buy a fucking android phone then and stop complaining!!! omfg you fucking idiot
myNEONCITY 7 months ago
Android > Apple
jawntherasta 7 months ago
@FactionArts Is this enough?
ioannis21shum 7 months ago
@FactionArts You can do videocalls in HD, you have an HD video recording and iMovie to edit vids, you have the app store, the iTunes store, which means download music and apps, you can play 3D games, watch YouTube in HD, upload n égare vifs in HD, you have easier user interface, and much more I don't remember, and I don't know that will be on iOS 5. I know Android phones are faster, but in my opinion that's because the Android phones dont have 326 pixels per inch. iPhone are very fast though
ioannis21shum 7 months ago