@C0zmo69:If he doesn't play the game,he has no way of understanding this argument.He has no knowledge of how hard certain strategies and gamestyles are,doesn't know how far cheese can carry a player who has no game knowledge, game sense or mechanic skills.All he knows is that X is regarded hard,Y is regarded easy-without any reference point whatsover.
He basicaly talks out of his a$#, actually hurting the argument that term "cheese" is overused in regard to early high agression gameplans.
@boonie - go play the game, consider how hard to play each style is, consider how many if any transitions you have from so called cheese tactics - and THEN complain about that.
"I don't actually know anything about it, but I have strong opinion nonetheless" is not a very good base for an argument.
@Cormalek Boonie actually said 'I don't even play the game myself.' not that he doesnt 'know anything about it'. your making false implications of his argument and logic. And starcraft IS a strategy game, designed to give the player many options. its a valid point to wonder why using different strategies or styles of gameplay is considered 'cheese' or why it is seen in such a negative light.
I feel like a cheese is any strategy that can be easily countered if the opponent knows what he's doing, and relies on your opponent screwing up or not scouting it to win. Whereas non-cheese is a strategy that is decent to solid even when your opponent scouts it and doesn't mess up.
cheese is what players call the strat that just beat there sorry asses. watch a few idra vids, anyone that beats him he accuses of cheese.... Its simple, win or lose, all else is fodder
That wasn't cheese, that was just beautiful mind-games and a very smart play. Cheese would have been a compromise in some way - there was little compromise there.
People, "cheese" is just a non-standard strategy that relies more on the element of surprise than skill. That is not to say it requires no skill to pull off or even less than some standard strategies. But, well executed cheese makes it LOOK like you have no skill and poorly executed cheese does the same. Thus, the people that get cheesed assume that about the cheeser and that's why people don't like it.
@doctordonutdude WTF are you talking about!? Cheese is an insulting word for people who use random, off the wall, glitch gameplay. It is not respected. However, I do not think this game was cheese at all. People apply cheese to too many games, like HD did to this game
@syphe101 Lol. Calm down, Broski. Maybe you should try and change the way YOU view the term and maybe see it as a compliment. Or just a neutral statement of fact. Mass Banshee that early is a VERY unorthodox strategy and even though I'm a huge fan of bold and original plays like in this game, I still agree that it's pretty cheesy. I don't see it as an insult at all.
I don't know if HD knows this, but on a korean keyboard, ww is the place for the korean equivilent of 'gg'. so when a korean says ww, it's him typing gg.
in fact, some koreans get irritated when other koreans type gg to them, because on a korean keyboard, that is the leter for "h", and it reads (sort of) 'haha".
based sole on this game, namhcir doesnt seem to have much skills. i play exactly like him...double rax opening then FE, cept his FE is hella late, because he is too concentrated on micro. his double starport pretty much means banshee incoming, but the zerg got no antiair or mutas...namhcir's strat is horrible. and to answer hd's question, he is insane. not genius.
i don't get why its cheese to simply play unexpectedly. the 2port was late enough that cella would have had time to beat it if he'd scouted again. its just because terran so often favour marine tank or mech that the build worked because zerg don't expect heavy banshee play any more.
Can someone please explain to me why everyone calls him Namchir when his name is clearly spelled NamhciR. Is this some SC1 reference I'm not catching here?
when koreans type 'ww', it's the equivalent of the 'gg'. on the korean keyboard, the 'w' is the key for the letter that has the 'g' sound, and so thats why koreans use 'ww'.
@boonie Cheese is a tactic that is too easy to win by. Cloaked banshees attacking a base without detection = Cheese. Going for an expo and then next thing you know you have a bio ball attacking your base = Cheese. Non-cheese tactics is basically late game.
@boonie the word "cheese" is used way too much, even by HD whom I like to watch. It's annoying for me too. At least if people would use it as something good (creative play) or at least neutral. But it's kind of a word with a negative connotation, which I don't understand.
Definitely, watching a cheese game is much more interesting than a macro game, at least once in a while.
Beeing "cheesed" can be annoying, but you can learn from these games. It's only annoying at the very low leagues.
@boonie tbh early marine pressure to mass banshees is pretty standard on ladder ~ its half my vs terrans matches, gotta admit he was creative with it but i'd still call it cheese
but who said cheese is a bad thing? my sc username is cheezeking xD
@boonie Cheese is incredibly Vague. You could just as well call it one base play. You already know that most starcraft 2 games go well beyond 1 base and that's why doing an all-out attack without taking another base is somewhat considered cheese.
And that play wasn't THAT creative. Its a two rax followed by two port banshee, and if you don't kill your opponent right now you just lost the game.
@boonie shame this is top comment, now you'll have 20,000 replies saying rawr you suck or other stuff like that.
From what I understand, though, cheese is a strategy that only works if the opponent doesn't see it coming and if it doesn't work it leaves you with a strong disadvantage. Don't play SC2 much but that's how I see it. For instance, if Cella had known that Namchir was going to do this he could've made spores and Namchir would've been shut down. Nothing REALLY cheesy though, but oh well
Hd casted this match on his stream, yet he acts like he's never seen it before. He goes on during the cast to predict tech decisions making himself look good.
@stos Look, My guess is that his style of casting that I've seen in many games is to make predictions. If he didn't do that it would be weird. He does that not to mkae himself look good, but to make the experience better for those of us who do not watch his stream. It also makes the casting lackluster if HD casts as if he knows who is going to win. So he makes it better for everyone who does not watch the stream. If you don't like that...Then stay off his channel and just watch his stream.
with all that encouragement for cheese no wonder u login and get cheesed by diamond/low masters 1/2 games (people with no skill only try to win not get better)
wow, HD sucks big time. he used to be one of the premier casters back in the beta and now he just didn't grow as a caster. abusing the word cheese that whole game was just an amateur move on his part.
@Stylez1877 both husky and day9 suck balls, wake the fuck up. watch artosis, tasteless, combatex, psystarcraft etc if u actually wanna learn something useful.
@flyingmimbus yes I have watched day9 daily - I've followed day9 since he started that back in broodwar - but frankly in my opinion he tends to look at things far too deep or simply state the obvious as something spectacular. I stopped looking at his clips to learn and use em more for laughs. I find that other commentators teach you much more useful tricks than day9, especially combatex, who's talking about mindgames which in my book is the most important aspect of sc
What the fuck HD? this was not a cheese by namchir, and he's is a pretty good player despite his cheesy reputation... he fucking owned Cella without a problem, seems so, and banshees are a common answer to bane bust without lair. Don't make namchir look bad to your viewers, i have much respect for him and all of you should be having some.
Cella is the coach of slayers. He isn't good but he understand the game and its mechanic better than anyone on slayers. He don't have time to play because he always show up to support his teammate and think up new strategies to help them out...
I really cant understand what cheese is and why people whine about it. Its a game, that u play to win and u use everything that u have to crush ur enemy. At the start all players have the same opportunities (though terran is OP), and the way they play is their deal. So u just have to overplay your opponent and not complain about any "special tactics" he uses
@VinniPuhoFF The fact is that cheese is actually not viable. If played right cheese will always be a loss. People complain about it though because it sometimes is really hard to hold it all off, while the cheesing itself is extremely easy. Just look at ActionJesus at the dreamhack tournement, he just managed to beat quite a few players by 6 pooling, which even I can do.
@MattyCakezZ I loled @ your deep knowledge of strarcraft 2. Build a reactor on a barracks and switch the starport on the reacor is slower than getting two starports right? Right! :P
Likewise. The time it would take to build a reactor would severely cut his marine count down. He built 2 starports to keep marine production constant.
@Filiforme Yes it is. Because then you have to swap the starport with the barracks instead of just dropping down 2 starports, therefor building 2 starports is faster.
@MattyCakezZ at the conventional skill level yes, this isnt cheese. but at the grandmaster level a baneling bust/2 port banshee is. At that skill level, if your opponent knows you're going 2 port banshee on one base, you will lose outright. if you don't do damage with a baneling bust, you lose. If your opponent scouts your baneling bust, you will lose. Basically any strat that cuts worker production significantly and requires you to do damage.
@MattyCakezZ You realise just about every T player who wants to quickly pump Medivacs will just reactor his Factory? It's considerably cheaper. Basically the only reason anyone will go for quick 2x Starport would be for Banshees and maybe even Ravens.
There is no such think as cheese... there is only too little scouting. This is war so everything is allowed. And cheese is only a strategics that few peoples use.
well it just goes to show how shit sc2 is made... nothing to do with the best player since pure cheesers can just win on that... :( so sad its so damn easy to cheese in sc2
Wasn't REALLY cheese though, after all he did do a standard 2 rax opening, and there was plenty of opportunity for Cella to scout his banshee build because they came out so late.
Im namchiRs friend and im tellong him you called him a kid
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ctsincebay 2 months ago
cheese is the term used by faggots to describe an enemy strategy that takes them by surprise and kicks their ass
SpammingTroll 3 months ago
Namhcri is Richman spelt backwards...
surprise surprise lol
WillsFong 3 months ago
ww does not mean well won
its ㅈㅈ which is just gg
surprised husky doesn't know this!
bsolod 4 months ago
@bsolod This isn't Husky amg man srsly
ChefBoyardeeee 2 months ago
its NAM H C IR not namchir
ThePechkin85 4 months ago
@C0zmo69:If he doesn't play the game,he has no way of understanding this argument.He has no knowledge of how hard certain strategies and gamestyles are,doesn't know how far cheese can carry a player who has no game knowledge, game sense or mechanic skills.All he knows is that X is regarded hard,Y is regarded easy-without any reference point whatsover.
He basicaly talks out of his a$#, actually hurting the argument that term "cheese" is overused in regard to early high agression gameplans.
Cormalek 4 months ago
@boonie - go play the game, consider how hard to play each style is, consider how many if any transitions you have from so called cheese tactics - and THEN complain about that.
"I don't actually know anything about it, but I have strong opinion nonetheless" is not a very good base for an argument.
Cormalek 4 months ago
@Cormalek Boonie actually said 'I don't even play the game myself.' not that he doesnt 'know anything about it'. your making false implications of his argument and logic. And starcraft IS a strategy game, designed to give the player many options. its a valid point to wonder why using different strategies or styles of gameplay is considered 'cheese' or why it is seen in such a negative light.
C0zmo69 4 months ago
I feel like a cheese is any strategy that can be easily countered if the opponent knows what he's doing, and relies on your opponent screwing up or not scouting it to win. Whereas non-cheese is a strategy that is decent to solid even when your opponent scouts it and doesn't mess up.
700718756 4 months ago
i think namhcir name is richman, namchir backwards?
SwiZzShAdyzZ 4 months ago
Namchir is just a guy who lacks macro...so he does the micro intensive strats
mrtigerman4ever 4 months ago
haaaaahaaa
1219nan 4 months ago
im gunna start learning terran so i have something different to ladder as next season other than zerg and protoss
DigitalgamerEd 4 months ago
That wasn't cheese
heylister 4 months ago
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1zabest 4 months ago
cheese is what players call the strat that just beat there sorry asses. watch a few idra vids, anyone that beats him he accuses of cheese.... Its simple, win or lose, all else is fodder
MrDuggem 4 months ago
That wasn't cheese, that was just beautiful mind-games and a very smart play. Cheese would have been a compromise in some way - there was little compromise there.
wicky42 4 months ago
People, "cheese" is just a non-standard strategy that relies more on the element of surprise than skill. That is not to say it requires no skill to pull off or even less than some standard strategies. But, well executed cheese makes it LOOK like you have no skill and poorly executed cheese does the same. Thus, the people that get cheesed assume that about the cheeser and that's why people don't like it.
doctordonutdude 4 months ago
@doctordonutdude WTF are you talking about!? Cheese is an insulting word for people who use random, off the wall, glitch gameplay. It is not respected. However, I do not think this game was cheese at all. People apply cheese to too many games, like HD did to this game
syphe101 4 months ago
@syphe101 Lol. Calm down, Broski. Maybe you should try and change the way YOU view the term and maybe see it as a compliment. Or just a neutral statement of fact. Mass Banshee that early is a VERY unorthodox strategy and even though I'm a huge fan of bold and original plays like in this game, I still agree that it's pretty cheesy. I don't see it as an insult at all.
doctordonutdude 4 months ago
ban"cheese"
Nitroglycerine1000 4 months ago
it's spelled namhcir. aka richman.
tsaiger 4 months ago
way to much credit for the winning player.... its just.... roll the dice and hope...
traislow 4 months ago
HD has a boner for namchir. gave him way too much credit for his "craziness"
AnJelllo9607 4 months ago
just because a strategy isn't a macro style doesn't mean its cheese
puffymuffin92 4 months ago
If there's a next step, it's not cheese, it's just an attack.
Maybe an attack with unexpected timing, but still just an attack.
Asylumofsouls 4 months ago
Constant calling it a cheese.....HD is failing @ casting lol
Rhapsody17 4 months ago 2
ok, double starport -> Banshee is NOT a cheese!
Krakilin0405 4 months ago
lol starcraft has a sex scandal
PieWithCoolWhip 4 months ago
like if you got the banana ad and watched it
BadcatStarcraft 4 months ago
I don't know if HD knows this, but on a korean keyboard, ww is the place for the korean equivilent of 'gg'. so when a korean says ww, it's him typing gg.
in fact, some koreans get irritated when other koreans type gg to them, because on a korean keyboard, that is the leter for "h", and it reads (sort of) 'haha".
gg (pressing w key, proper korean)- ㅉ
gg (pressing g key, proper english)- ㅎㅎ
Thumbs up so HD knows, please.
DyeAlabaster 4 months ago 27
His name is actually "Richman" spelled backwards. I doubt he wants to go by namhcir.
aznkukuboi 4 months ago
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HIS FUCKING NAME IS RICHMAN!
MrRogueHD 4 months ago
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MrRogueHD 4 months ago
based sole on this game, namhcir doesnt seem to have much skills. i play exactly like him...double rax opening then FE, cept his FE is hella late, because he is too concentrated on micro. his double starport pretty much means banshee incoming, but the zerg got no antiair or mutas...namhcir's strat is horrible. and to answer hd's question, he is insane. not genius.
XDarkstarZX 4 months ago
Loved that 4 gate / Carriers-Voids transition on late game.. ballsy!
SirGecko01 4 months ago
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toki119 4 months ago
"I don't think I have seen him play standard. In fact, to him standard would be cheese!" Great!!!
arthusppp 4 months ago
this game = american player taking retardation to a whole new level....
sdhjtge 4 months ago
HOLY CHECK!
MrJlumanji 4 months ago
in my pc i cant see the rain :(
ivancho318 4 months ago
i don't get why its cheese to simply play unexpectedly. the 2port was late enough that cella would have had time to beat it if he'd scouted again. its just because terran so often favour marine tank or mech that the build worked because zerg don't expect heavy banshee play any more.
bobzilla211 4 months ago
Can someone please explain to me why everyone calls him Namchir when his name is clearly spelled NamhciR. Is this some SC1 reference I'm not catching here?
MrSmuggler17 4 months ago
ww is GG, cause korean character that u pronounce as "gee" is where W is on qwerty keyboards.
croclol 4 months ago
What was the scandal with Wara?
Lemming456 4 months ago
ww isn't well won..its the korean equivalent for typing GG on a korean keyboard
whobeSC 4 months ago
does he not realize that NamchiR is Richman backwards?
kidcoolangot 4 months ago 3
ww is well won, hd said it near the end.
ieatpussy4meryenda 4 months ago
when koreans type 'ww', it's the equivalent of the 'gg'. on the korean keyboard, the 'w' is the key for the letter that has the 'g' sound, and so thats why koreans use 'ww'.
MrTube61 4 months ago 4
1:15 "To Koreans, Cheese is considered a.... the standard way to play SC2"
Here I was expecting "delicacy"
Strand0410 4 months ago
Cella <3
xPloSiVgT 4 months ago
something i dont get is:
- seeing opponent take up a strategy, u change urs to counter that is called 'cheese'?
- using only 1 unit that is the banshee, no funny stuff but just all out attack is called 'cheese'?
- only through building obscenely big base and play is the only non-cheese way?
hey i dont even play this game myself. just enjoy watching the cast. but u guys keep calling creative gameplay 'cheese' which kinda gets to me.
boonie 4 months ago 82
@boonie Its just HD. He calls everything either cheese or all ins.
spurrell 4 months ago
@spurrell
lol, so true. It's part of his professional style :)
Karmoon7 4 months ago
@boonie Cheese is a tactic that is too easy to win by. Cloaked banshees attacking a base without detection = Cheese. Going for an expo and then next thing you know you have a bio ball attacking your base = Cheese. Non-cheese tactics is basically late game.
WishyLH 4 months ago
@boonie the word "cheese" is used way too much, even by HD whom I like to watch. It's annoying for me too. At least if people would use it as something good (creative play) or at least neutral. But it's kind of a word with a negative connotation, which I don't understand.
Definitely, watching a cheese game is much more interesting than a macro game, at least once in a while.
Beeing "cheesed" can be annoying, but you can learn from these games. It's only annoying at the very low leagues.
smu42 4 months ago
@boonie tbh early marine pressure to mass banshees is pretty standard on ladder ~ its half my vs terrans matches, gotta admit he was creative with it but i'd still call it cheese
but who said cheese is a bad thing? my sc username is cheezeking xD
ForeverProtoss 4 months ago
@boonie Cheese is incredibly Vague. You could just as well call it one base play. You already know that most starcraft 2 games go well beyond 1 base and that's why doing an all-out attack without taking another base is somewhat considered cheese.
And that play wasn't THAT creative. Its a two rax followed by two port banshee, and if you don't kill your opponent right now you just lost the game.
gautrules 4 months ago 4
@boonie shame this is top comment, now you'll have 20,000 replies saying rawr you suck or other stuff like that.
From what I understand, though, cheese is a strategy that only works if the opponent doesn't see it coming and if it doesn't work it leaves you with a strong disadvantage. Don't play SC2 much but that's how I see it. For instance, if Cella had known that Namchir was going to do this he could've made spores and Namchir would've been shut down. Nothing REALLY cheesy though, but oh well
cjpolodo 4 months ago
Hd casted this match on his stream, yet he acts like he's never seen it before. He goes on during the cast to predict tech decisions making himself look good.
honorless hd. You lost my subscription.
stos 4 months ago
@stos Look, My guess is that his style of casting that I've seen in many games is to make predictions. If he didn't do that it would be weird. He does that not to mkae himself look good, but to make the experience better for those of us who do not watch his stream. It also makes the casting lackluster if HD casts as if he knows who is going to win. So he makes it better for everyone who does not watch the stream. If you don't like that...Then stay off his channel and just watch his stream.
pearbearo 4 months ago
with all that encouragement for cheese no wonder u login and get cheesed by diamond/low masters 1/2 games (people with no skill only try to win not get better)
ShouldBewOt 4 months ago
HD just means cheese as in non-standard. not necessarily a crazy bunker rush or something.
LexTalionas1942 4 months ago
HD, we only watch your channel cuz you have HD in your name.
kamikrazi123 4 months ago
baneling bust is cheese guys...
IdleSway 4 months ago
so many pro casters among the comments, pls stfu damn smartases and let the man do awsome job that he does, so ungrateful and sad u all are
Theak47forall 4 months ago
ww is gigi (or gg) in korean.
cheese is american for "Attacked"
Reoh0z 4 months ago
HD is stupid
"to counter the banshee cheese, cella is going to cheese him back!"
so i guess a regular standard baneling bust is cheese? fucking idiot HD
ZoomZip 4 months ago
@ZoomZip why watch his games if you think this? why don't you cast if you're better? oh wait its cause you're all talk. stfu lol! sad guy
gaggyfish 4 months ago
@gaggyfish because i find namchir's games interesting.
dont get me wrong, HD is good at casting ( i guess). but its some of the stupid shit he says.
Like the whole baneling bust counter and classifying it as cheese.
and its like criticizing . so calm down bro.
ZoomZip 4 months ago
@ZoomZip lol fair enough (: my bad bro
gaggyfish 4 months ago
He is SlayerSCella... not CellaWerra anymore.
jjllama 4 months ago
@jjllama did you even listen to what he said lmao..
gurraglad 4 months ago
wow, HD sucks big time. he used to be one of the premier casters back in the beta and now he just didn't grow as a caster. abusing the word cheese that whole game was just an amateur move on his part.
shmurt11 4 months ago
@shmurt11 you can keep your comments to your self.
88flack 4 months ago
because barracks can go down before the depot
mevin418 4 months ago
3:45 Seems like hes gonna get a... ~mah~
Feldoom 4 months ago
Maybe it is just me but why dont u get an evo chamber after seeing those 2 quick starports.
Cimbom1990GS 4 months ago 2
I love hearing Koreans cry DjeeDjeeeeee!
VersusAllOdds 4 months ago
2:30, You "believe" his real name is Richman? That's NamhciR backwards.
twowingunit 4 months ago
Namhcir = Richman
JTurfie 4 months ago
Isn't it Namhcir? Why does everyone call him Namchir? :D
OutlawEffectz 4 months ago
love Namchir's game, it's very exciting and fun to watch!!!
rafaechizen 4 months ago
Wow, another ZvT. Big surprise here.
hhildebr 4 months ago
cmon guys. ww = "WTF WHYYYYYYY" u shuld no this
glopv2 4 months ago
Cella too cute.
JohnixHD 4 months ago
spam 3.47 Haha :D
kiomio10 4 months ago
HD you focus so much on Terran's base
I want to know when and what's happening in Zerg's base too
mech10813 4 months ago
in day without Husky
mech10813 4 months ago
HD is so uninformed on everything..this is why I watch Day9 or Husky. Was even worse when HD was casting Diablo 3 beta..
Stylez1877 4 months ago
@Stylez1877 yeah man he didnt even acknowledge him as the team manager! HOLY CHECK
Daryljdeguzman 4 months ago
@Stylez1877 nobody likes a tool
tee23en 4 months ago
@Stylez1877 when why are you watching? If I wanted to go watch the husky or day9 I would
Smushed001 4 months ago
@Stylez1877 qq, just go watch husky and day9 then plz
Seraphin616 4 months ago
@Stylez1877 both husky and day9 suck balls, wake the fuck up. watch artosis, tasteless, combatex, psystarcraft etc if u actually wanna learn something useful.
gurraglad 4 months ago
@gurraglad have you ever watch day 9 dailys and watch him do commentary on videos?? he is the best commentator by far
flyingmimbus 4 months ago
@flyingmimbus yes I have watched day9 daily - I've followed day9 since he started that back in broodwar - but frankly in my opinion he tends to look at things far too deep or simply state the obvious as something spectacular. I stopped looking at his clips to learn and use em more for laughs. I find that other commentators teach you much more useful tricks than day9, especially combatex, who's talking about mindgames which in my book is the most important aspect of sc
gurraglad 4 months ago
"Outcheese his cheese"? I kinda didn't see any cheesing in the game...
1337Jimbo 4 months ago
Even though Cella is a Korean, he could have a lot of trouble.
LOLLLL
Objectioon 4 months ago
I fail to see how this is cheese
Tank878 4 months ago
Tomy Cella Sticker Machine °_°!!!
z0weew0wee 4 months ago
namchir is so noob
he don't deserve to play with cella the bauss
baroch8 4 months ago
Yea I think HD used cheese wrong. No offense, but I'm sure it kinda confused a lot of people in the beginning too.
XxDJCyberLoverxX 4 months ago
HD... there are no more dropships in Starcraft 2. its 2011.
theboredone321 4 months ago
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What the fuck HD? this was not a cheese by namchir, and he's is a pretty good player despite his cheesy reputation... he fucking owned Cella without a problem, seems so, and banshees are a common answer to bane bust without lair. Don't make namchir look bad to your viewers, i have much respect for him and all of you should be having some.
AvengeTheR 4 months ago
well won mah man
nubbubnub 4 months ago
RichmaN
KuRm1S 4 months ago
@KuRm1S mind = blown
DennisVlaanderen 4 months ago
Barracks going down after the supply depot? Nah, they're not early barracks. Only a 2rax 11/12
pliosaurus 4 months ago
What scandal was it??
bladesoftheprotoss 4 months ago
cheese=non standard play? or is cheese all in or is that the same thing????????????
lummymanpix 4 months ago
@lummymanpix cheese is something you cant do without loosing something of your own ( loosing income loosing tech time ) aso
Hellsingfmavdnaruto 4 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von HDstarcraft
@lummymanpix non standart something sneaky or sumthing
X3LA33 4 months ago
Cella is the coach of slayers. He isn't good but he understand the game and its mechanic better than anyone on slayers. He don't have time to play because he always show up to support his teammate and think up new strategies to help them out...
MajinBao 4 months ago
Protoss wins :P
crazymanicguy 4 months ago
WHAT WAS TTHE SCANDAL THAT HAPPEND!!!!!!!!!!!
hellfigter12345 4 months ago
I really cant understand what cheese is and why people whine about it. Its a game, that u play to win and u use everything that u have to crush ur enemy. At the start all players have the same opportunities (though terran is OP), and the way they play is their deal. So u just have to overplay your opponent and not complain about any "special tactics" he uses
VinniPuhoFF 4 months ago
@VinniPuhoFF The fact is that cheese is actually not viable. If played right cheese will always be a loss. People complain about it though because it sometimes is really hard to hold it all off, while the cheesing itself is extremely easy. Just look at ActionJesus at the dreamhack tournement, he just managed to beat quite a few players by 6 pooling, which even I can do.
N3OJerom 4 months ago
ww
Tantemify 4 months ago
how is baneling bust cheese?
how is a 2 starport banshee an opener at 10:00 in game?
Double starport drop cuts time on getting the medivacs out - dont have to wait for the reactor.
MattyCakezZ 4 months ago 40
@MattyCakezZ
stfu faggot dont u dare question hd
Tomacomo 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ I loled @ your deep knowledge of strarcraft 2. Build a reactor on a barracks and switch the starport on the reacor is slower than getting two starports right? Right! :P
Filiforme 4 months ago 56
@Filiforme Well not necessarily but with his way you can keep a reactor on a barracks if you want it there and you'll have the second starport.
TheNinjaizer 4 months ago
@Filiforme
Likewise. The time it would take to build a reactor would severely cut his marine count down. He built 2 starports to keep marine production constant.
Karmoon7 4 months ago
@Filiforme Yes it is. Because then you have to swap the starport with the barracks instead of just dropping down 2 starports, therefor building 2 starports is faster.
RtsSven 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ i would consider baneling bust as a cheese because it does pisses off a lot of Terran players
NagaRunFast 4 months ago
@NagaRunFast I get pissed when I lose a game, so that's cheese too, right?
SubZeroEcho 4 months ago 2
@SubZeroEcho the game is cheesing you ;D
NagaRunFast 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ
it was at 5.00 into the game?
gaggyfish 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ yes but if you make the reactor using a barracks you save all the resources youd use on the 2nd starport....
ThEfRoZeNbLiZzArD 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ at the conventional skill level yes, this isnt cheese. but at the grandmaster level a baneling bust/2 port banshee is. At that skill level, if your opponent knows you're going 2 port banshee on one base, you will lose outright. if you don't do damage with a baneling bust, you lose. If your opponent scouts your baneling bust, you will lose. Basically any strat that cuts worker production significantly and requires you to do damage.
btravagl1 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ You realise just about every T player who wants to quickly pump Medivacs will just reactor his Factory? It's considerably cheaper. Basically the only reason anyone will go for quick 2x Starport would be for Banshees and maybe even Ravens.
Strand0410 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ Dude you do realize that Namchir only has openings right?
RedNBlueAllOver7606 4 months ago
@MattyCakezZ HERPA DERP DERPPP HERPA DERPA!
abahawas 4 months ago
4:15 - "most players will do factory, upgrade ... and NamhciR is going to do that ... oh ... huh ..." - epic :D
ScorpioRahl 4 months ago
lol 'NamhciR' is RichmaN backwards
Kassidar 4 months ago
HD, I don't think yo uknow what 'cheese' means.
iarejoe 4 months ago
yes its cellawerra he is my favourite player thank you so much hd for casting a game with cella in it
tekkenfan155 4 months ago
well won indeed.
wishvids 4 months ago
There is no such think as cheese... there is only too little scouting. This is war so everything is allowed. And cheese is only a strategics that few peoples use.
moorrooz 4 months ago
both top comments pretty much the same... :(
JaGaN0te 4 months ago
well it just goes to show how shit sc2 is made... nothing to do with the best player since pure cheesers can just win on that... :( so sad its so damn easy to cheese in sc2
Erebus2075 4 months ago
ww = Whatta Wanker
Shicks0 4 months ago
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no duh its richmon lol his name is namhciR=Richmon...
heyheysteven 4 months ago
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heyheysteven 4 months ago
ww= WOO WOO
memokk 4 months ago
if marines get into zerg base they can kill every drone with micro, but lings cant do it, thats not fair....
rayman2704 4 months ago
@rayman2704 cause zerg has banelings
kilrmax 4 months ago
NamhciR = RichmaN
cedmelancon 4 months ago
NamchiR = RichmaN ?
nniicckk66006600 4 months ago
Namchir is bad cheese doesnt never wins in the long run
TheChamitox 4 months ago
@TheChamitox ... you gotta fix your grammar dude. I have no idea what you're saying.
nuubez 4 months ago
ww= world war?
memokk 4 months ago 2
His name is richard, and it's spelled namhcir? So.. wah? Still, I love HD... and I fucking love namhcir
Brotoriously 4 months ago
its not cheese, its strategy by richmond
janusxx2 4 months ago
I haven't seen a TvZ with Namhcir that has lasted for more than 12 minutes -_-
c131 4 months ago
don't understand why you wouldn't just invest ~400 mins getting an evo and a couple spores after you see 2 starports. Seems like common sense
Nutella150 4 months ago
this video has been uploaded for 1 day and already 14 dislikes. what the fuck is wrong with people these days.
MrPanophobia 4 months ago
lol ww isnt well won
w=ㅈ on the keyboard
and ㅈ is same sound is g
which equals to~~~~~ gg
not well won xD
VideosAroundAll 4 months ago 124
@VideosAroundAll then how come in the next movie he ggs?
Alskaskan 4 months ago
@VideosAroundAll thanks faggot
ironintel 4 months ago
its not cheese bro
redshirtspeaker 4 months ago
Richman is such a boss.
MoarLurk 4 months ago
Vid name is wrong should be Namhcir
animerulezftw 4 months ago
lol at 3:47 :D hd voice fail.
SyzygyTT 4 months ago
1:56 SPOILER!!!!
MCwhiteywhitewhite 4 months ago
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MCwhiteywhitewhite 4 months ago
HD seems to be calling any early aggression as cheese
BlanknWhite 4 months ago
Wasn't REALLY cheese though, after all he did do a standard 2 rax opening, and there was plenty of opportunity for Cella to scout his banshee build because they came out so late.
Was a good game :-)
ronniedark 4 months ago
@ronniedark indeed!
MCwhiteywhitewhite 4 months ago