Bottom line is you do what you have to do to resist evil and injustice. The hard part is not so much the strategy (non violence or not) as much as knowing whether you are morally right or not and how far you are willing to go in pursuit of your goal. Also violence is not merely confined to attacking someone. If I don't let a sick man leave his house to see the doctor by locking him in, I may not lift a finger on him physically but that is all the same, a clear example of physical violence.
If I hadn't had to read her work in social work school I'd think it was science fiction....unfortunately it's not and she isn't.....she's actually almost succeeded at collapsing the system.....
How about not letting people exit from buildings by standing in front of doors and locking arms as Occupy DC did? If violence is done as a "Big part of your strategy" then my wife and child had better not get caught up in it while we are freely moving about our lives. Or you may see violence that your little safe lives didn't prepare you for. Liberty
GRAND FORKS, N.D. (AP) September 13, 2011 — Union supporters have directed racial slurs at replacement workers outside an American Crystal Sugar plant in North Dakota.
That's pathetic. I mean come on now, let's not be fanatics. Unions are a form of power - neither inherently good nor bad. Its like saying company managers are terrorists. There are good union members and there are bad ones. I personally am not for unions in public bodies but people should always have the freedom otherwise to bargain collectively. Likewise workers who don't want to join a union should have the perfect freedom to not do so.
We are going to hear from President Obama in a few minutes, and I am so glad that he has come to Michigan because this is where he sees the real America. President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march.
That’s what we are going to tell America…..When he sees what we are doing here, he will be inspired. And you know what? If we go back, we keep the eye on the prize, lets take these sons-of-bitches out and give America back to America where we belong.”
LONGVIEW, Wash. (AP) — Hundreds of Longshoremen’s UNION MEMBERS stormed the Port of Longview early Thursday, overpowered and held security guards, damaged railroad cars, and dumped grain, said Longview Police Chief Jim Duscha.
Six guards were held hostage BY THE RAMPAGING UNION MEMBERS for a couple of hours after 500 or more Longshoremen’s UNION MEMBERS broke down gates about 4:30 a.m. and smashed windows in the guard shack.
@linkwray22 NOT ALL POLICE R UNION WORKERS. IN A DEPT. SOME MAY BE DEPENDING ON HOW THE DEPT. IS ORGANIZED. MOST PEONS ON A POLICE FORCE ARE NOT UNIONIZED THUS THE LEADERS OF THE POLICE FORCE CAN STICK IT TO THE PEONS. THE UNIONS ARE NOT BEING USED FOR WHAT THEY WERE INTENDED. NOT ALL UNIONS R THE SAME, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SOME FORCES ARE ALL UNION. JIMMY HOFFA IS A THUG & MOST OF THE UNIONS ARE ULTIMATELY RUN BY THE ELITE. THE OCCUPY IS RUN BY THE VERY ONES THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT R PROTESTING.
Yesterday in Madison, Wisconsin protesters picketed Governor Scott Walker’s appearance at a Special Olympics ceremony outside the State Capitol. Interspersed throughout the crowd were dozens of pro-union protesters.
The picketers were present throughout the event, including some holding signs with questionable language. Many were dressed as zombies.
Striking IBEW Union Workers Protest at Verizon Exec’s Home; ‘We’re Here to Fight!’
Members of IBEW camp out in front of the private residence of a Verizon VP and fill the neighborhood with shouts and chants. This follows the latest trend of protesters invading the neighborhoods of their adversaries disturbing the peace of their neighbors and family members. This time, the IBEW brought a giant, inflatable rat.
This woman is a fascist (even if she doesn't realize it...but I think she does). . Marxism is a form of fascism. You do NOT have a say in how things are run. in a Marxist society. You have no power to change ANYTHING under Marxism and if you try you are labeled by the state as a terrorist, racist, or psycho, etc.
Unions are ok as long as they operate within the law and do not resort to coercive tactics against their members. Any that do should be dismantled and replaced immediately.
The poster of this video is either dumb, in that they don't understand context, or malicious, as they do understand context but choose to disregard it in order to smear someone. So there you have it, ahphosting, you are either malicious or a moron.
wow, she gave such a complex answer where she mostly recommended not being violent and how the government would use violence against you she only said one line at the end saying unless. and you extracted that to be the heading . grossly unfair!!!
It's so ironic that she's fighting for the rights of the oppressed but Beck has managed to fool the moronic poor into thinking she's their enemy. I swear Faux news it the Ministry of Truth (1984).
@ek04show No she did not, she used the first part of her conversation explaining how CLAIMING non-violence can be used as a DEFENSE, and then went on to say violence was not just OK - but that it needed to be used wisely - not merely willy -nilly.
Glenn Beckis paid for by the corporate elitists who tell him to demonize this woman and some of the sheep repost the things he tells them all on youtube...luckily he's lost 30% of his audience in the last few months,,,pretty soon there'll be a new one with some clever new twist on the corporate propaganda for you all to follow like zombies...The world democratic revolution is happening, and it started in south america and other places 10 years before any of you people knew the name francis fox
So it's alright to be violent when it's part of your strategy? I just wonder if she would feel the same about someone that defends freedom and liberty?
What is a good reason for breaking a window? Your own window? Your neighbor's or a business? Do the ends justify the means? Will you reimburse the owner for property loss or emotional distress created by your big strategy? Where exactly, do your rights end and mine begin? I am completely opposed to abortion on demand. However, I have never damaged an abortion clinic, and it will never be a part of my big strategy.
it makes me sad that we cannot seem to handle dissent. for someone to call for violence or to silence a person because they do not agree with you is truly un-american but then again...these fights these people pick with folks is yet another distraction to keep folks in the tea party distracted and fearful enough to continue to vote against their own interests. so sad to go to our small towns/farms disappear as folks act as though aligning themselves with fatcats will make them one.
Are you kinding me this lady is off her rocker? "It's hard to answer in the abstract". What? How about just a real answer. The only time she is clear on something is when she is talking about being violent, and its ok when it fits your agenda. Complex issue's, are you joking it was a simple question. Get a clue people, really just listen to what she is saying. Its not that hard.
I can't believe this CUNT, has the nerve to say, 'It's b/c of Beck, that she is now getting death threats, if that's true. For someone who openly advocates violence, lying isn't that hard. And if she is, welcome to the club, EVERY prominent figure gets death threats. Bart Simpson and Barney the Dinosaur receive death threats. Beck has actually had people come to his home, and threaten and intimidate him, feet away from this kids. Besides she's 1000 years old, a swift cool breeze would kill her
She's fascinating. Her arguments are subtle, she's speaking of matters about which she thinks deeply, and so she is misunderstood. She is not crazy. She's not advocating violence, she's saying violence happens (in the context of the struggle for civil rights), and on balance it's probably best NOT to be violent.
You Americans, so many of you have lost the capacity to hear people who think differently than you do. In a democracy, it's a fairly critical skill.
It's amazing who some many people blame Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News for the actions of Jared Loughner, using some abstract comments that are open to interpretation. But here you have a woman OPENLY calling for violence, and has been for YEARS, and the press has nothing to say.
@Devvrrrs88 much like yourself, typing insults from the safety of your computer, she is a coward. Like any TERROR leader, she'll egg you on, but she won't do it herself. HER WORDS: "unless you have a GOOD REASON for breaking, a window you shouldn't do that, UNLESS it's you know A BIG PART OF YOUR STRATEGY", HER WORDS! LISTEN TO HER WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your hatred for Limbaugh and Beck has clouded your ears.
@coliwood No, Limbaugh and Beck espouse violence as a matter of course. She only discusses violence in terms of pragmatism. There's a difference. And throwing a rock through a window is not the same as shooting someone through the brain you dumb shit.
@Devvrrrs88 Okay, QUOTE THEM. tell me when and where Limbaugh or beck advocated shooting someone. Give the the link to the audio. Both of them upload their ENTIRE broadcasts, it should not be hard to find. I want the whole quote, IN CONTEXT, not a sentence that starts and ends with an ellipses. You progressive idiots kill me. Her she is IN HER OWN WORDS promoting violence, and you deny it. You have NO PROOF of Beck or Limbaugh doing it, but you ASSume it. here's you chance PROVE IT! or FUCK OFF!
@Devvrrrs88 QUOTES QUOTES,QUOTES,!!! I've asked you before, Give me the PROOF. All you have done is AGAIN, give me your ASSumptions, speculations, interpretations, or insinuations! You haven't PROVEN anything. At this point, b/c you don't have ANY proof against Limbaugh and Beck and b/c you are denying What Piven CLEARLY advocates,in the video clip. I cannot debate you b/c,You are a LIAR.You have NOTHING to support you arguments. Just a collage of vague, abstract, implications that prove NOTHING
@Devvrrrs88 still waiting for proof, changing the subject with a LAME joke, is not an answer, nobody her ask for birth certificate PROOF, PROOF, PROOF. Cmon, Beck and Limbaugh are public figures, if it exits it shouldn't be hard to find. GO GET IT! QUOTES! Do it of Fuck Off. PROOF, PROOF, PROOF!!!!!!
I usually refrain from commenting the looks of a person, but this person has a freaking close resemblance to Charlotte Knobloch and it seems not to be restricted to the outside.
Apparently her discussion was too far above what you right wing idiots can understand. At no point does she advocate violence. She is talking about taking advantage of the violence being used AGAINST you, as in the violence used against members of the civil rights movement.
Fuck you cunt. You cant equate any social ills of today to the civil rights movements. So go ahead and encourage progressives to make violence “a big part of their strategy”. Just stop bitching and whining about YOU receiving death threats. If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
If someone on the right, let's say Glenn or Rush, were saying this, OMG, they would be bombarded with accusations and tarnished on air for days and days, there would be a "national discussion" and all manner of hullaballoo.
But because this bitch is on the revolutionary left and an old buddy of Clinton, it gets a free pass....!
@wolfgangfaust@ymp5000 You fellas seem to have a real problem with context and comprehension, and a great deal more, I suspect.
Wolfgang, your presumption that I am a follower of Cenk Uygur, or an apologist for the President, belies your ignorance. Only a fool presumes to know the motivations of strangers.
The policy of violence is what the communists used in South Vietnam. When Uncle Ho announced the north would be communist, almost one million people left behind everything and took only what they could carry to the south. They voted NO with their feet. They sacrificed almost everything to avoid communism and yet Uncle Ho didn't get the message. He sent viet cong to terrorize the people so he could reunite Vietnam. He got millions of his countrymen killed, and they love him for that?
She thinks violence is okay as long as long as it's a BIG part of one's strategy? Judging from her face, I'd say someone accomplished their objective.
Let me say, a few people can cause alot of havoc. If the other 99.9 percent of america doesn't get untied, those idiot fascists will run this country the rest of the way into the ground. The only way we avoid their bullcrap goal is to Unite under God!
Shes isn't advocating violence, as the title for this video may lead one to believe. She is talking about how in any uprising or revolution (etc.) it is pretty much inevitable that violence will become part of it, whether on the protesters side or not. She said at the end of the video to not 'break the window unless it's a big part of your strategy'. Its about making your statement loud and clear, and for many this involves not breaking the window.
It is just amazing how people lap up everything that Glenn Becks says and then just regurgitate it as if it were the truth. Beck makes Joseph McCarthy look like an amateur.
@wolfgangfau Interesting that you should mention Einstein since he was a leftist who would have hated Beck and everything he stands for. As a part of the red-scare witch hunt Einstein was the subject of a 22 year investigation by the FBI. The only reason he was not deported is because as a scientist he was too valuable.
Besides sitins and demonstrations and many other things, I worked for CORE for 3 years in Roxbury, Massachussets ( Boston's ghetto) fighting slumlords and assisting tenants in substandard housing so I really do understand your ideology. The problem is that over the years entitlement programs have ballooned to a point they are economically unsustainable and hard work is discouraged. Social Security, Welfare, Medicaid etc originally had good intentions but have changed over the years.
She was right when she said 'even african americans were not always non violent'. African Americans have a murder rate 7 times higher than whites and commit interracial sexual assaults 1000 times more often than whites. Communist politicians are not always non violent either since they have murdered more than 150 million of their own citizens.
It's time for sane America to stand up and loudly say ENOUGH ALREADY! These communist people no nothing but violence and do use it to get their way. It's time to stop them and put them in place.
She is not a communist. Do you even know what communism actually is? It's the a worker ran state, i.e. those who produce the means of production also own the means of production and get decision making power as to their distribution and profit. That has nothing to do with what she is saying or has ever said. She is talking about expanding democracy to include historically disenfranchised groups such as the poor.
progressives or liberal dems ALWAYS back force against the private citizen.its thier whole agenda they alone know whats right for you! they will make it law and if you dont like it off to jail you go.thats why they dispise the constitution, it codifies INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS and natural rights.
Only another decade or so until most of these long-standing, wrinkled-old, Communist traitors are dead. Those 'mobs' they have left behind will be worthless.
Wow, the evil has actually twisted her face Emperor Palpatine style. I guess this is what comes after that I-just-smelled-a-fart face most liberals have.
Sadly she is decieved. Its sad to see her degrade those who proved themselves honorable in the Civil Rights Movement by not resorting to violence, yea, being killed for what they believed in instead of killing for what they believe in. Those people were not cowards, but were righteous in their actions, turning the other cheek, and making a much grander statement to the American People then violently uprising for extremist principles, which Piven obviously supports. I pray Piven will wake up soon
"income equality" sounds pretty cool until its happening to you. I'd like to see this crone scratching out a living like her great grandmother did. She'll find it a lot less comfortable than resting on her laurels as a 1960s enfant terrible.
I'd point out that those "white mobs" that beat the blacks in the south were DEMOCRATS. The KKK was established as the terrorist arm of the democrat party.
... you are so right!!! Democrats pretend they had their roots in defending African Americans:::: LOL , THEY, the DEMONCRATS historically were the PERSECUTORS of African slaves and their descendants... LEADERS of the KKK..., hangers from trees ,,... torturers of African Americans! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eat shit and DIE, you hypocritcal Democrat liars and racists!!!!
This evil traitor bitch needs to be swinging from a rope. She's a tool of the devil and totally out to destroy our Nation, that has benefited her with lots of money and attention.
Bitch from hell.. How stupid anybody who follows her is..She WILL be in hell when she leaves this world that she is trying to destroy... She should be exiled from America
@tbuechele her hubby,Alinsky received a fellowship in criminology with a first assignment to get a look at crime from the inside of gangs. He attached himself to the Capone gang, .Alinsky, became an academic-turned-radical, a personality type first found among the press covering the Russian revolution of 1917-18 , forming the basis of the Vietnam anti-war movement.America’s adversaries,within & outside the law
@tbuechele In that book, “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom-- Lucifer.” never saw himself as the devil, but as some radical angel who could bedevil “the Establishment”, force change
@tbuechele You have no idea what you are talking about -she is essentially communist and wants to destroy the American capitalist system . Read her work. Her quasi Marxixt drivel is mixed with socialist revolutionary crap. She has never had a REAL job and pontificates from the insulated safety of Princeton. She needs to go suck Paul Krugman's dick; they belong togehter.
She taking about social movement strategy within a specific context. She is not giving a universally valid a priori in regards to the use of violence or non-violence. There use is context specific which is what she is arguing. That does not contradict civil rights movements.
A)She doesn't teach at Princeton. B)What makes you think that you are the legitimate arbiter of what "real work" is? What does that actually mean and what are you basing it on? It appears as if you just take your assumptions as valid fact. Also, what does communism actually mean? Do you know? It doesn't seem to be the case.
@tbuechele You are partly correct .Even though she has lectured at Princeton, it is Krugman who is a professor there. However that does not change her views. And with respect to your other comments you are simply wrong
and don't know what you are talking about. I was active in the civil rights movement in the 60's. I knew Piven and her idiot husband Cloward. We all wanted to change the system; they wanted to destroy it. Mao and Castro were their heroes; Marxism was their landscape.
At least in Greece the working classes fight back. When the Gov't wanted to bail out the banks, raise tuition and cut social services the Greece citizens fought back.There has been massive cuts to social welfare programs including tuition assistance to students and cuts to transportation services (at the same time as raising the cost of both tuition and public transportation-that is certainly the case in NY). We are being made to suffer so that multinational corporations can continue to dominate
I applaud for working with the civil rights movement (I was born too late to join). I didn't know her in the 1960s but her work is relatively mild compared to Marxists (which she is not). She is essentially a social democrat attempting to remedy the social inequalities of capitalism from within the democratic state. I know actual Marxists and their work is very different from hers and I tend to side with them (not so much Maoists but autonomous Marxists and social critics). Despite that though I
@tbuechele And unless there is a limitless supply of money to fund these programs a situation like Greece will occur -like it or not , the country is broke.because of entitlement programs out of control
Do you actually know what communism is? Doesn't sound like it. I know her and I also understand what communism actually is (worker ownership of the means of production) and she is not one. So you are wrong.
@hog1775 (A) aspects of the Tea Party HAVE LONG BEEN advocates FOR violence against the govt, as a strategy for revolution. YOU GUYS agree w violent rebellion.
(B) she began by saying "violence was a part of past movements ... getting beaten up by cops and mobs", not acting violent
(C) Deacons for Defense was basically a 2nd Amendment crowd of black ministers
(D) white, middle class, formerly-employed, former business owners are now seeing their 99 weeks run out, no job, no food CONTD
CONTD 1: (E) this has NOTHING common with Obama. Obama admin and Fed is still bailing out BANKS, creditors, house-repossessors, oil and food speculators, profiteers, those who are transferring their dollars offshore.
(F) How is Obama treating the Left? Police State assault on non-violent protests; arresting people who feed the poor and rebuild homes, like Food not Bombs. Non-violence labeled "terrorism", while soldiers, robocops, and Muslim warlords on Pgon payroll are "peacekeepers".
The USA is the only modern democratic country that celebrates idiocy as a virtue. You really want to shoot people for their ideas? Multinational corporations are running the country into the ground by exploiting the working classes. Piven has always fought against that.
@tbuechele Where did I say I wanted to shot someone? Exploiting the working class? Your such a liberal moron that does nothing more than spew out the same BS all other leeches of this country. I have been working since the age of 16. I have NEVER thought that when I was starting out as part of the working class that I deserved 100K a year. I started out a $3.25 an hour, joined the military, went to school and worked my way up. How was I or anyone else exploited? NO one owes you ANYTHING! WORK!
"Liberal moron". We are in an age in the US where anti-intellectualism is not only acceptable but is actually a virtue. It's quite embarrassing. I fairly confident that can crush you intellectually but then that would be an assumption as well know wouldn't it? Just like assuming that I don't work (I've worked my whole life chief). I can from a working class home and worked my way through college and know towards a PhD.
@tbuechele And you deserve what? Which is my point. NOTHING. Work or starve, better yourself or live in the bed you failed to make. Get it now mr. phd?
I know Piven is not a communist because I actually know her and I understand what communism is. Your neoliberal rhetoric about individual work demonstrates your lack of understanding of the division of labor and the social and historical context in which it takes place.
In the past 30 years the U.S. has increased it's work time at work by 20% while the real wages made by the working class has remained relatively stagnant. Compare with Europe for instance where working hours has decreased by 20%. That means that since the mid-1970s as the U.S. working class as produced more it's compensation for producing, i.e. it's wages, has not increased at the same rate.
That is exploitation in the technical sense of the term, i.e., producing more relative to wage compensation, and is one of the reasons the U.S. working class is currently in the most debt that it has ever been in in all of U.S. history. It's not a matter of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" but of understanding the context in which the bootstrap is produced in the first place.
Work is produced by a division of labor in a specific social and historical context, not just by isolated individuals. Piven's work is necessary for understanding that social context, and if I have any real critique of her it is that she does is not radical enough.
...activities that involve violent or life-threatening acts that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State and appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping…
Wow.... this was a profound monumental statement. The violence that would be appropriate in this case would be the violent hangings for treasonous tripe such as this. Forget the Faith, Hope, Charity.
What is she saying? For heaven sakes, SPIT IT OUT!!! I am so tired of "round and round and round we go, and where we end up, no one knows"! I guess what she's saying is if violence is a big part of your strategy, it's ok!!! How interesting. How would she feel if the Tea Party movement adapted her strategy?
The rest of the world is seeing that progressivism/communism/socialism doesn't work, and these fools are promoting it. Even Fidel Castro is admitting now that communism doesn't work. So it's okay to be violent if it is a "BIG PART OF YOUR STRATEGY"??? Another radical loser.
Someone shut this woman up please....
keegan1728 4 hours ago
There is a Dark Hot Place In Hell for this Marxist Bitch!
RURIGHT 6 days ago
Bottom line is you do what you have to do to resist evil and injustice. The hard part is not so much the strategy (non violence or not) as much as knowing whether you are morally right or not and how far you are willing to go in pursuit of your goal. Also violence is not merely confined to attacking someone. If I don't let a sick man leave his house to see the doctor by locking him in, I may not lift a finger on him physically but that is all the same, a clear example of physical violence.
allenlobo 3 weeks ago
30 Communists like this...
TheCityBoy310LA 2 months ago
If I hadn't had to read her work in social work school I'd think it was science fiction....unfortunately it's not and she isn't.....she's actually almost succeeded at collapsing the system.....
InfoatPinkSliptvsm 3 months ago
How about not letting people exit from buildings by standing in front of doors and locking arms as Occupy DC did? If violence is done as a "Big part of your strategy" then my wife and child had better not get caught up in it while we are freely moving about our lives. Or you may see violence that your little safe lives didn't prepare you for. Liberty
prrolg 3 months ago
God please we need to get rid of these people. Vote anyone but Obama in 2012.
2012vote 5 months ago 3
GRAND FORKS, N.D. (AP) September 13, 2011 — Union supporters have directed racial slurs at replacement workers outside an American Crystal Sugar plant in North Dakota.
linkwray22 5 months ago
Unions = Terrorism
linkwray22 5 months ago 3
@linkwray22
That's pathetic. I mean come on now, let's not be fanatics. Unions are a form of power - neither inherently good nor bad. Its like saying company managers are terrorists. There are good union members and there are bad ones. I personally am not for unions in public bodies but people should always have the freedom otherwise to bargain collectively. Likewise workers who don't want to join a union should have the perfect freedom to not do so.
allenlobo 3 weeks ago
We are going to hear from President Obama in a few minutes, and I am so glad that he has come to Michigan because this is where he sees the real America. President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march.
That’s what we are going to tell America…..When he sees what we are doing here, he will be inspired. And you know what? If we go back, we keep the eye on the prize, lets take these sons-of-bitches out and give America back to America where we belong.”
-Jimmy Hoffa, Jr. UNION LEADER
linkwray22 5 months ago
@linkwray22 Oh yea! Michigan is such a success story!
DenMaur45 5 months ago
8 SEPT. 2011
LONGVIEW, Wash. (AP) — Hundreds of Longshoremen’s UNION MEMBERS stormed the Port of Longview early Thursday, overpowered and held security guards, damaged railroad cars, and dumped grain, said Longview Police Chief Jim Duscha.
Six guards were held hostage BY THE RAMPAGING UNION MEMBERS for a couple of hours after 500 or more Longshoremen’s UNION MEMBERS broke down gates about 4:30 a.m. and smashed windows in the guard shack.
THERE WERE NO ARRESTS.
POLICE ARE UNION MEMBERS.
linkwray22 5 months ago
@linkwray22 NOT ALL POLICE R UNION WORKERS. IN A DEPT. SOME MAY BE DEPENDING ON HOW THE DEPT. IS ORGANIZED. MOST PEONS ON A POLICE FORCE ARE NOT UNIONIZED THUS THE LEADERS OF THE POLICE FORCE CAN STICK IT TO THE PEONS. THE UNIONS ARE NOT BEING USED FOR WHAT THEY WERE INTENDED. NOT ALL UNIONS R THE SAME, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SOME FORCES ARE ALL UNION. JIMMY HOFFA IS A THUG & MOST OF THE UNIONS ARE ULTIMATELY RUN BY THE ELITE. THE OCCUPY IS RUN BY THE VERY ONES THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT R PROTESTING.
2bless8 3 months ago
"If we can't use the power of persuasion, we will use the persuasion of power. Workers of the world unite."
-Andy Stern... Former SEIU President, frequent White House visitor and close advisor to President Obama.
linkwray22 5 months ago
Union Disrupts Special Olympics Event
Yesterday in Madison, Wisconsin protesters picketed Governor Scott Walker’s appearance at a Special Olympics ceremony outside the State Capitol. Interspersed throughout the crowd were dozens of pro-union protesters.
The picketers were present throughout the event, including some holding signs with questionable language. Many were dressed as zombies.
linkwray22 5 months ago
Striking IBEW Union Workers Protest at Verizon Exec’s Home; ‘We’re Here to Fight!’
Members of IBEW camp out in front of the private residence of a Verizon VP and fill the neighborhood with shouts and chants. This follows the latest trend of protesters invading the neighborhoods of their adversaries disturbing the peace of their neighbors and family members. This time, the IBEW brought a giant, inflatable rat.
linkwray22 5 months ago
This woman is a fascist (even if she doesn't realize it...but I think she does). . Marxism is a form of fascism. You do NOT have a say in how things are run. in a Marxist society. You have no power to change ANYTHING under Marxism and if you try you are labeled by the state as a terrorist, racist, or psycho, etc.
Unions are ok as long as they operate within the law and do not resort to coercive tactics against their members. Any that do should be dismantled and replaced immediately.
togian755 7 months ago
@togian755 You are wrong. CORPORATISM is a a form of fascism, for which you are a shill.
danbrichance 6 months ago
The poster of this video is either dumb, in that they don't understand context, or malicious, as they do understand context but choose to disregard it in order to smear someone. So there you have it, ahphosting, you are either malicious or a moron.
seiferganon 8 months ago
HEINOUS SWINE
CRUSH THE UNIONS!
RIGHT TO WORK!
RIGHT TO WORK!
RIGHT TO WORK!
RIGHT TO WORK!
linkwray22 9 months ago
@linkwray22 YOU are the CORPORATE FASCIST shill, troll.
danbrichance 6 months ago
wow, she gave such a complex answer where she mostly recommended not being violent and how the government would use violence against you she only said one line at the end saying unless. and you extracted that to be the heading . grossly unfair!!!
It's so ironic that she's fighting for the rights of the oppressed but Beck has managed to fool the moronic poor into thinking she's their enemy. I swear Faux news it the Ministry of Truth (1984).
ek04show 10 months ago
@ek04show No she did not, she used the first part of her conversation explaining how CLAIMING non-violence can be used as a DEFENSE, and then went on to say violence was not just OK - but that it needed to be used wisely - not merely willy -nilly.
ToddAldrich 9 months ago
@ek04show She thinks she is workinf for the oppressed. There is a big difference between intentions and implications.
PocketJokersdotCom 8 months ago
The 1960's hippies again and they are in the white house.. Communism killed 100 million people.
WhatCanIsay100 10 months ago
Lighten up Francis. God I hate this old witch.
klrdotorg 10 months ago
Glenn Beckis paid for by the corporate elitists who tell him to demonize this woman and some of the sheep repost the things he tells them all on youtube...luckily he's lost 30% of his audience in the last few months,,,pretty soon there'll be a new one with some clever new twist on the corporate propaganda for you all to follow like zombies...The world democratic revolution is happening, and it started in south america and other places 10 years before any of you people knew the name francis fox
sulfurousstench 11 months ago
The face of evil......sweet, harmless, charismatic....and genocidal.
thegoodlocust 11 months ago 2
Teargas makes hippies cry.
ObiWanShinobi1 11 months ago
Violence is strategy?
Beck is the bad guy for calling this bitch the hell out?
jrsub3 1 year ago
Whoo! At 1:33-1:36. Somebodys angwyy!!! Got a chip on your shoulder there Francy?
TheRyesick1 1 year ago
Why is the left so ugly??
davetileguy 1 year ago
this country, the US state dept is calling ecologists "terrorists". THATS VIOLENCE.
hamrite 1 year ago
Next time someone asks me a difficult question, I'll say that's tough to answer in the abstract i think.
fordabulia 1 year ago 11
@fordabulia haha
KlayyJayy 1 month ago
Next time someone asks me a difficult question I'll say that's tough to answer in the abstract i think.
fordabulia 1 year ago
So it's alright to be violent when it's part of your strategy? I just wonder if she would feel the same about someone that defends freedom and liberty?
gasmaskinfidel 1 year ago 4
What is a good reason for breaking a window? Your own window? Your neighbor's or a business? Do the ends justify the means? Will you reimburse the owner for property loss or emotional distress created by your big strategy? Where exactly, do your rights end and mine begin? I am completely opposed to abortion on demand. However, I have never damaged an abortion clinic, and it will never be a part of my big strategy.
imrnlil 1 year ago
it makes me sad that we cannot seem to handle dissent. for someone to call for violence or to silence a person because they do not agree with you is truly un-american but then again...these fights these people pick with folks is yet another distraction to keep folks in the tea party distracted and fearful enough to continue to vote against their own interests. so sad to go to our small towns/farms disappear as folks act as though aligning themselves with fatcats will make them one.
wooooozee 1 year ago 2
Are you kinding me this lady is off her rocker? "It's hard to answer in the abstract". What? How about just a real answer. The only time she is clear on something is when she is talking about being violent, and its ok when it fits your agenda. Complex issue's, are you joking it was a simple question. Get a clue people, really just listen to what she is saying. Its not that hard.
1jcduc 1 year ago 2
is she mental?
PatricksTime 1 year ago
I can't believe this CUNT, has the nerve to say, 'It's b/c of Beck, that she is now getting death threats, if that's true. For someone who openly advocates violence, lying isn't that hard. And if she is, welcome to the club, EVERY prominent figure gets death threats. Bart Simpson and Barney the Dinosaur receive death threats. Beck has actually had people come to his home, and threaten and intimidate him, feet away from this kids. Besides she's 1000 years old, a swift cool breeze would kill her
coliwood 1 year ago
She's fascinating. Her arguments are subtle, she's speaking of matters about which she thinks deeply, and so she is misunderstood. She is not crazy. She's not advocating violence, she's saying violence happens (in the context of the struggle for civil rights), and on balance it's probably best NOT to be violent.
You Americans, so many of you have lost the capacity to hear people who think differently than you do. In a democracy, it's a fairly critical skill.
wovenlander 1 year ago
This woman is totally crazy. Pray for her wicked soul. She's having a hard time keeping her lies straight.
aih8228 1 year ago
This woman is totally crazy. Pray for her wicked soul.
aih8228 1 year ago
Cenk is Olbermann's replacement... LOL!!!!! what a bunch of fetid lying nihilistic tools for evil they are.
PushBackNow 1 year ago
This bitch was jest on MSNBC lying hear ass off!!!
killergames187 1 year ago
I say shoot her.
tpaladino 1 year ago
It's amazing who some many people blame Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News for the actions of Jared Loughner, using some abstract comments that are open to interpretation. But here you have a woman OPENLY calling for violence, and has been for YEARS, and the press has nothing to say.
coliwood 1 year ago
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Devvrrrs88 1 year ago
@Devvrrrs88 much like yourself, typing insults from the safety of your computer, she is a coward. Like any TERROR leader, she'll egg you on, but she won't do it herself. HER WORDS: "unless you have a GOOD REASON for breaking, a window you shouldn't do that, UNLESS it's you know A BIG PART OF YOUR STRATEGY", HER WORDS! LISTEN TO HER WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your hatred for Limbaugh and Beck has clouded your ears.
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood No, Limbaugh and Beck espouse violence as a matter of course. She only discusses violence in terms of pragmatism. There's a difference. And throwing a rock through a window is not the same as shooting someone through the brain you dumb shit.
Devvrrrs88 1 year ago
@Devvrrrs88 Okay, QUOTE THEM. tell me when and where Limbaugh or beck advocated shooting someone. Give the the link to the audio. Both of them upload their ENTIRE broadcasts, it should not be hard to find. I want the whole quote, IN CONTEXT, not a sentence that starts and ends with an ellipses. You progressive idiots kill me. Her she is IN HER OWN WORDS promoting violence, and you deny it. You have NO PROOF of Beck or Limbaugh doing it, but you ASSume it. here's you chance PROVE IT! or FUCK OFF!
coliwood 1 year ago
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Devvrrrs88 1 year ago
@Devvrrrs88 QUOTES QUOTES,QUOTES,!!! I've asked you before, Give me the PROOF. All you have done is AGAIN, give me your ASSumptions, speculations, interpretations, or insinuations! You haven't PROVEN anything. At this point, b/c you don't have ANY proof against Limbaugh and Beck and b/c you are denying What Piven CLEARLY advocates,in the video clip. I cannot debate you b/c,You are a LIAR.You have NOTHING to support you arguments. Just a collage of vague, abstract, implications that prove NOTHING
coliwood 1 year ago
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Devvrrrs88 1 year ago
@Devvrrrs88 still waiting for proof, changing the subject with a LAME joke, is not an answer, nobody her ask for birth certificate PROOF, PROOF, PROOF. Cmon, Beck and Limbaugh are public figures, if it exits it shouldn't be hard to find. GO GET IT! QUOTES! Do it of Fuck Off. PROOF, PROOF, PROOF!!!!!!
coliwood 1 year ago
@Devvrrrs88
I'm trying to imagine why someone would use such a horrible obscenity to refer to a political group.
Is it blind hatred? A tactical ploy to get a reaction out of your interlocutor? Maybe some kind of homosexual thrill?
Care to fill us in?
cedric1546 1 year ago
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Devvrrrs88 1 year ago
@Devvrrrs88 Got any proof yet. I see you continually talking shit, but have you found anything?
coliwood 1 year ago
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Devvrrrs88 1 year ago
I usually refrain from commenting the looks of a person, but this person has a freaking close resemblance to Charlotte Knobloch and it seems not to be restricted to the outside.
NeaFrea 1 year ago
Wow, advocating allowing violent people to beat you is simply over the line.
drewkUMO 1 year ago 11
Apparently her discussion was too far above what you right wing idiots can understand. At no point does she advocate violence. She is talking about taking advantage of the violence being used AGAINST you, as in the violence used against members of the civil rights movement.
poohgp 1 year ago
Fuck you cunt. You cant equate any social ills of today to the civil rights movements. So go ahead and encourage progressives to make violence “a big part of their strategy”. Just stop bitching and whining about YOU receiving death threats. If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
ymp5000 1 year ago
I'm cuckoo for cocoa-puffs!
I'm cuckoo for cocoa-puffs!
I'm cuckoo for cocoa-puffs!
I'm cuckoo for cocoa-puffs!
I'm cuckoo for cocoa-puffs!
7beers 1 year ago
she's a backward thinking moron, her strategies and failures are nothing new, have been tried and many died.
choicesdirections 1 year ago
If someone on the right, let's say Glenn or Rush, were saying this, OMG, they would be bombarded with accusations and tarnished on air for days and days, there would be a "national discussion" and all manner of hullaballoo.
But because this bitch is on the revolutionary left and an old buddy of Clinton, it gets a free pass....!
Dadutta 1 year ago
You got to be one twisted beckerhead to read violence out of this video.
conchf 1 year ago
@conchf
or to think Palin had anything to do with the AZ shooting
choicesdirections 1 year ago
This video does not deliver.
At no point in this video does Piven advocate violence.
wickedzen1 1 year ago
@wickedzen1 “Unless it's a big part of your strategy”
ymp5000 1 year ago
@wickedzen1 -of course it doesn't, if you are wearing "cenk uygur tightey-whiteys".
-go back to your obama coloring book.
wolfgangfaust 1 year ago
@wolfgangfaust @ymp5000 You fellas seem to have a real problem with context and comprehension, and a great deal more, I suspect.
Wolfgang, your presumption that I am a follower of Cenk Uygur, or an apologist for the President, belies your ignorance. Only a fool presumes to know the motivations of strangers.
wickedzen1 1 year ago
The policy of violence is what the communists used in South Vietnam. When Uncle Ho announced the north would be communist, almost one million people left behind everything and took only what they could carry to the south. They voted NO with their feet. They sacrificed almost everything to avoid communism and yet Uncle Ho didn't get the message. He sent viet cong to terrorize the people so he could reunite Vietnam. He got millions of his countrymen killed, and they love him for that?
donteverlietome 1 year ago 2
She thinks violence is okay as long as long as it's a BIG part of one's strategy? Judging from her face, I'd say someone accomplished their objective.
cincyblows 1 year ago
Progressive Liberals need to ask the correct questions according to their constituent base:
1 Locks are strange, unlike mittens....which are not square. Are you an onion?
2 How old are bears?
3 If you like Pottery, does your hair whisper to you?
4 What time are grapes?
5 Do you have an overwhelming desire to hear Henry Kissinger sing "Enter Sandman" by Metallica?
It is only then, with honest answers to these Liberal basic questions, we can BEGIN to comprehend this kind of mindset.
wolfgangfaust 1 year ago
Let me say, a few people can cause alot of havoc. If the other 99.9 percent of america doesn't get untied, those idiot fascists will run this country the rest of the way into the ground. The only way we avoid their bullcrap goal is to Unite under God!
taverned 1 year ago
Shes isn't advocating violence, as the title for this video may lead one to believe. She is talking about how in any uprising or revolution (etc.) it is pretty much inevitable that violence will become part of it, whether on the protesters side or not. She said at the end of the video to not 'break the window unless it's a big part of your strategy'. Its about making your statement loud and clear, and for many this involves not breaking the window.
specimn13 1 year ago
It is just amazing how people lap up everything that Glenn Becks says and then just regurgitate it as if it were the truth. Beck makes Joseph McCarthy look like an amateur.
calamagrostis88 1 year ago
@calamagrostis88 -and you make paulie shore look like albert einstein.
wolfgangfaust 1 year ago
@wolfgangfau Interesting that you should mention Einstein since he was a leftist who would have hated Beck and everything he stands for. As a part of the red-scare witch hunt Einstein was the subject of a 22 year investigation by the FBI. The only reason he was not deported is because as a scientist he was too valuable.
calamagrostis88 1 year ago
Did any of you actually listen to her or just read the title and start posting?
She clearly is not pro violence - clearly says non violence is what she respects.
Sounds like she is talking in the context of specific complex issues.
I don't know that Decons for Defense are/were liberals or Progressives - are they?
I'll Google them and find out.
There is a difference between liberal and progressive. Progressives are not necessaary liberal or left.
TheWildhorses10 1 year ago 2
@TheWildhorses10
You can't possibly think you can lie to people about something that she says in the first minute of the video.
She says she has "considerable respect for non-violence" BUT "it is not a necessary rule".
She sees non-violence as a way to preserve the movement intact until violence is necessary.
It is absolutely amazing that you would think you can misrepresent what is right in front of our eyes.
cedric1546 1 year ago 2
I love how you post a "quote" that she did not say as the title for this post.
Beck much?
firewaldo 1 year ago 2
This sleazbag belongs in prison.
She is a communist subversive.
Calling for violence and revolution
I'm am so sick of left wing libtard mentality.
wamster101 1 year ago
ZIONISM IS NAZISM AND COMMUNISM!
911truthseekers 1 year ago
Besides sitins and demonstrations and many other things, I worked for CORE for 3 years in Roxbury, Massachussets ( Boston's ghetto) fighting slumlords and assisting tenants in substandard housing so I really do understand your ideology. The problem is that over the years entitlement programs have ballooned to a point they are economically unsustainable and hard work is discouraged. Social Security, Welfare, Medicaid etc originally had good intentions but have changed over the years.
biggerturtle 1 year ago
She looks like a Communist Charles Krauthammer...on crack
snowbunny420ysu 1 year ago
off this cunt
biggerturtle 1 year ago
Because she advocates self-defense for civil rights?! What is wrong with you?
tbuechele 1 year ago
She was right when she said 'even african americans were not always non violent'. African Americans have a murder rate 7 times higher than whites and commit interracial sexual assaults 1000 times more often than whites. Communist politicians are not always non violent either since they have murdered more than 150 million of their own citizens.
shellcracker7 1 year ago
It's time for sane America to stand up and loudly say ENOUGH ALREADY! These communist people no nothing but violence and do use it to get their way. It's time to stop them and put them in place.
GlobalMinority 1 year ago
She is not a communist. Do you even know what communism actually is? It's the a worker ran state, i.e. those who produce the means of production also own the means of production and get decision making power as to their distribution and profit. That has nothing to do with what she is saying or has ever said. She is talking about expanding democracy to include historically disenfranchised groups such as the poor.
tbuechele 1 year ago
progressives or liberal dems ALWAYS back force against the private citizen.its thier whole agenda they alone know whats right for you! they will make it law and if you dont like it off to jail you go.thats why they dispise the constitution, it codifies INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS and natural rights.
mikeyramone33 1 year ago 2
What?! That is completely incoherent.
tbuechele 1 year ago
The dumbest A** on earth
miausette 1 year ago
Only another decade or so until most of these long-standing, wrinkled-old, Communist traitors are dead. Those 'mobs' they have left behind will be worthless.
WaffleKogen 1 year ago
EWWWWWWWW~ right! she is a CUNT!
cossack207 1 year ago
Wow, the evil has actually twisted her face Emperor Palpatine style. I guess this is what comes after that I-just-smelled-a-fart face most liberals have.
kyleb2112 1 year ago
She looks like Larry Storch.
sickofcommies 1 year ago
Sadly she is decieved. Its sad to see her degrade those who proved themselves honorable in the Civil Rights Movement by not resorting to violence, yea, being killed for what they believed in instead of killing for what they believe in. Those people were not cowards, but were righteous in their actions, turning the other cheek, and making a much grander statement to the American People then violently uprising for extremist principles, which Piven obviously supports. I pray Piven will wake up soon
LightOfTruth73 1 year ago
"income equality" sounds pretty cool until its happening to you. I'd like to see this crone scratching out a living like her great grandmother did. She'll find it a lot less comfortable than resting on her laurels as a 1960s enfant terrible.
LughTube1 1 year ago 2
This is most likely what finally drove Jared Lee Loughner to kill two extremely conservative public officuals.
tgvas 1 year ago
A better question might be, what the hell are you guys protesting?
DoublePrimo44004 1 year ago
I'd point out that those "white mobs" that beat the blacks in the south were DEMOCRATS. The KKK was established as the terrorist arm of the democrat party.
MrExcogitate 1 year ago 2
@MrExcogitate
... you are so right!!! Democrats pretend they had their roots in defending African Americans:::: LOL , THEY, the DEMONCRATS historically were the PERSECUTORS of African slaves and their descendants... LEADERS of the KKK..., hangers from trees ,,... torturers of African Americans! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eat shit and DIE, you hypocritcal Democrat liars and racists!!!!
peacechild61 1 year ago 2
This evil traitor bitch needs to be swinging from a rope. She's a tool of the devil and totally out to destroy our Nation, that has benefited her with lots of money and attention.
1911HeadBanger 1 year ago
What a cunt.
miamad 1 year ago
HOW DARE SHE dishonor the non-violent Black protesters in the south?!
ALL HONOR AND GLORY to them !
Dadutta 1 year ago
She's not dishonoring them. She is just saying that non-violence is one strategy among others and is not a rule by necessity.
tbuechele 1 year ago
this hag is crazy and insane.
Dadutta 1 year ago
No she is not. She is quite eloquent and brilliant.
tbuechele 1 year ago
Bitch from hell.. How stupid anybody who follows her is..She WILL be in hell when she leaves this world that she is trying to destroy... She should be exiled from America
Myaka2001 1 year ago
Exiled from the country! So much for democracy. You are really dumb.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele her hubby,Alinsky received a fellowship in criminology with a first assignment to get a look at crime from the inside of gangs. He attached himself to the Capone gang, .Alinsky, became an academic-turned-radical, a personality type first found among the press covering the Russian revolution of 1917-18 , forming the basis of the Vietnam anti-war movement.America’s adversaries,within & outside the law
Myaka2001 1 year ago
@tbuechele Saul Alinsky’s radicalism was expressed in his 1971 book, “Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals.”
Myaka2001 1 year ago
@tbuechele In that book, “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom-- Lucifer.” never saw himself as the devil, but as some radical angel who could bedevil “the Establishment”, force change
Myaka2001 1 year ago
Senile khazar.
snowdog03 1 year ago
this commie bitch ought to be put in a jail cell with the criminals she coddles. Would she last 10 minutes?
NickB1967 1 year ago
She is not a communist you idiot.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele You have no idea what you are talking about -she is essentially communist and wants to destroy the American capitalist system . Read her work. Her quasi Marxixt drivel is mixed with socialist revolutionary crap. She has never had a REAL job and pontificates from the insulated safety of Princeton. She needs to go suck Paul Krugman's dick; they belong togehter.
biggerturtle 1 year ago
@biggerturtle And as to civil rights she advocates violent not peacefukl solutions.
biggerturtle 1 year ago
She taking about social movement strategy within a specific context. She is not giving a universally valid a priori in regards to the use of violence or non-violence. There use is context specific which is what she is arguing. That does not contradict civil rights movements.
tbuechele 1 year ago
A)She doesn't teach at Princeton. B)What makes you think that you are the legitimate arbiter of what "real work" is? What does that actually mean and what are you basing it on? It appears as if you just take your assumptions as valid fact. Also, what does communism actually mean? Do you know? It doesn't seem to be the case.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele You are partly correct .Even though she has lectured at Princeton, it is Krugman who is a professor there. However that does not change her views. And with respect to your other comments you are simply wrong
and don't know what you are talking about. I was active in the civil rights movement in the 60's. I knew Piven and her idiot husband Cloward. We all wanted to change the system; they wanted to destroy it. Mao and Castro were their heroes; Marxism was their landscape.
biggerturtle 1 year ago
@biggerturtle And do you honestly want to end up like Greece?
biggerturtle 1 year ago
At least in Greece the working classes fight back. When the Gov't wanted to bail out the banks, raise tuition and cut social services the Greece citizens fought back.There has been massive cuts to social welfare programs including tuition assistance to students and cuts to transportation services (at the same time as raising the cost of both tuition and public transportation-that is certainly the case in NY). We are being made to suffer so that multinational corporations can continue to dominate
tbuechele 1 year ago
I applaud for working with the civil rights movement (I was born too late to join). I didn't know her in the 1960s but her work is relatively mild compared to Marxists (which she is not). She is essentially a social democrat attempting to remedy the social inequalities of capitalism from within the democratic state. I know actual Marxists and their work is very different from hers and I tend to side with them (not so much Maoists but autonomous Marxists and social critics). Despite that though I
tbuechele 1 year ago
I meant to write that I applaud you biggerturtle for working with the civil rights movement.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele And unless there is a limitless supply of money to fund these programs a situation like Greece will occur -like it or not , the country is broke.because of entitlement programs out of control
biggerturtle 1 year ago
@biggerturtle see my previous posting
biggerturtle 1 year ago
still support her.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele: Like hell she isn't, you dupe.
NickB1967 1 year ago
Do you actually know what communism is? Doesn't sound like it. I know her and I also understand what communism actually is (worker ownership of the means of production) and she is not one. So you are wrong.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele: The end result is state ownership and control of its citizenry, something which she has advocated for years.
NickB1967 1 year ago
@tbuechele -"communism is socialism in a hurry"
-Vladimir Lenin
wolfgangfaust 1 year ago
These people are insane and in charge and they were voted into the drivers seat.
Yankeeprepper 1 year ago 3
The libs support violence as long as it's happening to whites and CONSERVATIVES
littledebrarae 1 year ago 5
This is one loony cunt.
Progressives and liberals are running this country into the ground. I hope these retard do decide to get violent so we can put them down.
hog1775 1 year ago 24
@hog1775 (A) aspects of the Tea Party HAVE LONG BEEN advocates FOR violence against the govt, as a strategy for revolution. YOU GUYS agree w violent rebellion.
(B) she began by saying "violence was a part of past movements ... getting beaten up by cops and mobs", not acting violent
(C) Deacons for Defense was basically a 2nd Amendment crowd of black ministers
(D) white, middle class, formerly-employed, former business owners are now seeing their 99 weeks run out, no job, no food CONTD
dilbertgeg 1 year ago
CONTD 1: (E) this has NOTHING common with Obama. Obama admin and Fed is still bailing out BANKS, creditors, house-repossessors, oil and food speculators, profiteers, those who are transferring their dollars offshore.
(F) How is Obama treating the Left? Police State assault on non-violent protests; arresting people who feed the poor and rebuild homes, like Food not Bombs. Non-violence labeled "terrorism", while soldiers, robocops, and Muslim warlords on Pgon payroll are "peacekeepers".
dilbertgeg 1 year ago
The USA is the only modern democratic country that celebrates idiocy as a virtue. You really want to shoot people for their ideas? Multinational corporations are running the country into the ground by exploiting the working classes. Piven has always fought against that.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele Where did I say I wanted to shot someone? Exploiting the working class? Your such a liberal moron that does nothing more than spew out the same BS all other leeches of this country. I have been working since the age of 16. I have NEVER thought that when I was starting out as part of the working class that I deserved 100K a year. I started out a $3.25 an hour, joined the military, went to school and worked my way up. How was I or anyone else exploited? NO one owes you ANYTHING! WORK!
hog1775 1 year ago
"Liberal moron". We are in an age in the US where anti-intellectualism is not only acceptable but is actually a virtue. It's quite embarrassing. I fairly confident that can crush you intellectually but then that would be an assumption as well know wouldn't it? Just like assuming that I don't work (I've worked my whole life chief). I can from a working class home and worked my way through college and know towards a PhD.
tbuechele 1 year ago
@tbuechele And you deserve what? Which is my point. NOTHING. Work or starve, better yourself or live in the bed you failed to make. Get it now mr. phd?
hog1775 1 year ago
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No I do not because it is incoherent.
tbuechele 1 year ago
I know Piven is not a communist because I actually know her and I understand what communism is. Your neoliberal rhetoric about individual work demonstrates your lack of understanding of the division of labor and the social and historical context in which it takes place.
tbuechele 1 year ago
In the past 30 years the U.S. has increased it's work time at work by 20% while the real wages made by the working class has remained relatively stagnant. Compare with Europe for instance where working hours has decreased by 20%. That means that since the mid-1970s as the U.S. working class as produced more it's compensation for producing, i.e. it's wages, has not increased at the same rate.
tbuechele 1 year ago
That is exploitation in the technical sense of the term, i.e., producing more relative to wage compensation, and is one of the reasons the U.S. working class is currently in the most debt that it has ever been in in all of U.S. history. It's not a matter of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" but of understanding the context in which the bootstrap is produced in the first place.
tbuechele 1 year ago
Work is produced by a division of labor in a specific social and historical context, not just by isolated individuals. Piven's work is necessary for understanding that social context, and if I have any real critique of her it is that she does is not radical enough.
tbuechele 1 year ago
She even looks evil.
scottphys 1 year ago 18
She is actually a very sweat lady. I have met her.
tbuechele 1 year ago
May this monster burn in Hell!
StinkFingerr 1 year ago 5
Terrorism (noun):
...activities that involve violent or life-threatening acts that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State and appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping…
CRAPCANNONS 1 year ago 3
Satan Personified.
Female thing that Advocates the Overthrow of the USA by Collapsing the Whole System ala Neo-Marxist Alinsky.
See 'Cloward-Piven Strategy'. Do Wisconsin Citizens Like that their Taxes are Paying for the Radicalization of College Students?
3martijns 1 year ago 6
Welcome to the twight light zone America. So I guess we should get violent with the violent protestors?
longgonebomb 1 year ago 3
Wow.... this was a profound monumental statement. The violence that would be appropriate in this case would be the violent hangings for treasonous tripe such as this. Forget the Faith, Hope, Charity.
MrSuperpat 1 year ago 3
"Term Limits", byt Vince Flynn was a good read. Seeing this video made me think on it for some reason. Read the book, and you will understand why.
averagejoe1967 1 year ago
What is she saying? For heaven sakes, SPIT IT OUT!!! I am so tired of "round and round and round we go, and where we end up, no one knows"! I guess what she's saying is if violence is a big part of your strategy, it's ok!!! How interesting. How would she feel if the Tea Party movement adapted her strategy?
astarr57 1 year ago
i wonder what this dude would think if the left side of her head was smacked square with a two by four. . .
wolfgangfaust 1 year ago
The rest of the world is seeing that progressivism/communism/socialism doesn't work, and these fools are promoting it. Even Fidel Castro is admitting now that communism doesn't work. So it's okay to be violent if it is a "BIG PART OF YOUR STRATEGY"??? Another radical loser.
moonglow5x5 1 year ago 3
If i'm not mistaken; this woman is very carefully thinking out what she's allowing herself to say on the matter.
It's quite reminiscent of OweBama's speech pattern.
quaffer22 1 year ago 3