Love without adoption

[mylovesofmylife]

Cute reborn dolls. I have one made to look like my eldest Daughter as a newborn.

[dravenousone]

True love is not selfish.

How it possibly in the best interest of a child to live with a drug addicted mother, or in a place where they have no warm clothes, good food or proper supervision?

Most birth mothers who give up their children love them more than they love themselves. They love them enough to give them up and spare them a life of pain or life affecting poverty.

Thinking adoption does not benefit a child is very narrow minded and selfish.

[Brwneydgrl69]

Ok, so if the baby isnt adopted and the mom cant keep the baby.... what is the baby to do?? I was adopted, told at age 5 and found by age 39. I found out that "I" am a product of a father raping his daughter repeatedly from age 11 until she conceived me. Im GLAD i was adopted!! and MY birthmom DID the best thing for me at the time. I could never be angry with her. What she did WAS in MY best interest. But thanks for sharing.

[much2say1]

@Brwneydgrl69 Hiya, I am not against adoption. Every child deserves a stable loving home. Love and stability doesnt have to come from blood relation. I am against the present adoption laws. Laws which allows for true birth records to be removed and replaced. I have not long lost my adopted parents, they where my mum and dad and I love and miss them every day. I dont believe they would have loved me any less if the law did not allow certificates and names to be changed but I do know that

[much2say1]

without those changes there would have been a lot more openess to talk about my adoption and who and where I came from. thanks for taking the time to watch and respond to the vid. tina

[prsbes]

As an adoptive mother it hurts me to know that you feel this way. My daughter would have been in foster care or worse. She is now a wonderful, happy, teenager. She knows she is adopted and at age 18 she will decide if she wants to seek out her birth mother. Wow, I cannot believe you feel that adoptive parents are not good people. We love without caring about bloodline or genetics. I love my daughter as much as any other parent and would do ANYTHING for her. My heart is hurt by this video.

[LynxChan]

Sadly, sometimes the biological family is not in the best interest of the child (drug addicted, abusive etc,) and sometimes aren't even known (abandoned children). The idea that a child is ALWAYS better off with biological parents is hopelessly simplistic, never mind there is such a thing as an orphan. I can see the argument for open adoptions (again, not always possible) but saying "adoption is not in the best interest of the child" is so general as to be ridiculous.

[TephieSmiles]

As an adoptee, I have to disagree when you say adoption is not in the best interest of the child. I have had the opportunity to meet my birthmother, and I can tell you that not a day goes by that I'm not glad that she gave me up. She was barely 17 when she had me, she had a horrible home life, and no way to take care of me. In fact, she hid her pregnancy until she went into labor. There may be times when it's not in the best interest of the child, but there are so many times that it is.

[MsReid101]

May i ask what you opinion is on open adoption?

[crazym02]

Not every single adoptee is doing it for the right reason and a certain percentage of them will be peadophiles and child abusers. You have to remember that the adoptees could easily be alcoholic, drug taking arseholes, the only difference being that they have had the money to pay the thousands of pounds required to adopt a child in the uk.

[mshope4us]

Adopters are receiving stolen goods without knowing in many many cases. Adoption should not be allowed full stop without the consent of all family members and revoked where children have been taken without a trial.

[CorruptCourts]

Children are being stolen from parents and families that love and want them and this is evil and wicked.

Nature decides who can give birth and this is for good reason, blood is thicker than water is most cases.

Adoption should be never be turned into Forced Adoption and only in voluntary cases should children be placed outside of their natural families.

[UKDirtySecret]

Watch

'child stealing by the state' Brian Gerrish common purpose

the UK wants to keep this secret , we dont

[highnote19]

You say that there are adoptees who are abused by their adoptive families, and I agree that that is very true. It happens more often than we probably know. But there are also biological children who are abused. I'm so sorry if you were/are an abused adoptee. I can't imagine the pain involved in that. But I don't believe you were abused because you were adopted. I think you got stuck with really shitty parents, and that's the agency's fault, not yours.

[Mellissande]

Your videos come across as hateful to your adoptive parents. If you love your adoptive mother so much why do you hate adoption so much? There is always going to be the feeling of abandonment, of loss of fear. Whether you're adopted or not. I understand that you need to feel these things, You need to come to grips and figure out your life, But your videos are so negative to adoptive parents as a whole, Not just abusive ones. I am sorry if You've been abused, But It doesn't make adoption wrong.

[mrsevans1000]

What is better for the child...to grow up in foster care or a children's home, where there is little to no love? Children need love.

[AmRisArt]

That's an unrelated argument. In the case where it's a choice between foster care or an orphanage versus adoption, that's a separated issue.

The main problem is when the child could have remained with their parent/s, but didn't. Then the child has the lifelong pain inherent in adoption, as well as the lifelong pain of whatever might occur while they are in their adoptive home.

We all pretend that adoptees are never abused, but there are a fair number of adoptees that can put the lie to that.

[themange59]

What does that mean? if the parents didn't want the kid then no they couldn't have remained there.

Are you talking about people that are forced to give up their children? I'm not familiar with this as common practice, if it is that needs to be changed.

You'll have issues regardless of where you're raised or with who. Not knowing your heritage could be rough, but even in biological families lack of such knowledge is common. Everyone has issues that are brought on by things beyond their control.

[AmRisArt]

Those who don't want their information, that's fine for them. But those who do want their information have a basic human right to access to it.

The child has no rights at the time of surrender, and thus their rights as a human and as an adult must be fought for by those of us who are adults and are able to fight for those rights.

Secrecy against the will of the adult adoptee is inhumane and only in the interest of the adoptive parents. Never in the interest of the adoptee, who is a person too

[much2say1]

AmRisArt thanks you said that much better than my efforts.

[AmRisArt]

The point I'm making, is that it's good that those few of us who are bold and brave are speaking up about the negatives with regards to adoption. Anyone who thinks that anything, including adoption, is all good, all the time, is lying to themselves and others as well.

There are coercive practices towards mothers in adoption, and towards adoptees, too. The fact that we can't get our original information, which contains our heritage and is our right, is literally a human rights violation.

[mrsevans1000]

Even when a child lives with his/her natural parents all may not be good. I was abused by my dad from age 6 until I became an adult. I wouldn't have been any worse off if I had been adopted, and maybe even better off.

[AmRisArt]

You MIGHT have been better off. You MIGHT have been even worse off.

Shocking as it is to most people, adopted children are abused sometimes, also. Adopters get divorced at the same rate as other people, too.

So you MIGHT not have been abused, but you DEFINITELY would have been abandoned. You MIGHT have been abandoned, and then abused on top of it.

Dreaming of adoption as the end all, cure all of abuse is foolish and pretends that adoptees are never abused. That's a lie.

[AmRisArt]

Unfortunately, it's a difficult thing for adoptees. I am actually an adoptee, myself. We're really not allowed to feel what we really feel. We're supposed to be happy about it, and if we're not happy about every single part of it, we're bad people. Because the myth is that adoption is a perfect solution. That it's good, and has no possible downsides.

This myth prevents both mothers who've lost their children through coercive practices, and adoptees, from getting the help they deserve.

[much2say1]

Hiya 1963chia I'm glad your little boy has such loving and understanding parents. I am not against adoption I am against the adoption laws that allow birth records to be altered and childrens true biological history to be re written.When a child has honest loving parents like yourselves history and biology holds no secrets making it possible for true feelings to be shared and any hurt or confusions to be faced together. adoptions still take place that are not so open and altered continued

[much2say1]

birth records make it far easier to be less open and makes it emotionally harder for adoptees (I know not all) to ask questions. Every child in the UK has to be registered within a certain time after their birth, its (my feelings) like your identity confirmation that you exsist. Adoped children have that confirmation removed from record and replaced with a new identity and new records. I dont think anyone should alter and replace another persons birth records if that makes sense. wishing u wellx

[1963chia]

I adopted a baby boy who was abandoned at birth. I can see where your hurt comes from. However, just to let you know that we truly love our son. He's our world and both my husband and I will try to protect him from all that is hurtful and bitter. I intend to let him know that he's not my birth son but before that, I know when I tell him, he will know that he's no lesser love than any other child.

[DefyingDisney]

Adoption IS wonderful! Blood is thicker then water but love is thicker then blood!

I'm sorry.......some people should NOT be Parents! They shoould just be considered simply as the "Sperm" and the "Egg". When the baby comes, he/she should be handed to "REAL" Parents who are willing to love and support him/her. So MANY children's lives could have been changed for the better if they had been adopted..........BUT I love the dolls in your video! I have a few Ashton-Drake "Babies" myself ;-)

[much2say1]

Hi, your right some people should NOT be parents but that 'sperm' and 'egg' is part of the baby. Regardless of who raises the child the child should not have it's original birth records altered and replaced. I am not against 'adoption' only the laws that still dont do enough to ensure 'in the best interest of the child' means exactly that. thanks for taking the time to comment :}

[amasocialworker]

hi, my name is amalia. i was adopted when i was really young. your videos have been there for me when i felt alone, at night and needed smb there that could understand what i was going through. adoption and the thought of being abandoned are terrible, however i believe that sometimes adoption is not necessarily a bad thing, when everything is out in the open. a lot of children are given a second chance through adoption, like kids saved from filthy orphanages and a life of not belonging anywhere.

[much2say1]

Hey amalia please dont ever feel you are alone. I know the hurt can be hard to talk about sometimes but talking to other adoptees helps. It doesnt matter if an adoptee has had a brill adoption or a crap one I think adoptees together proper know how to have 'guilt' free heart to hearts! If ever you need to chat message me and I will send you my IM and email addy. Take care and dont feel alone. tina x

[muslimahrock]

this is a stupid ass video made by a very stupid, unloved, unhappy person...i was adopted & i have the best family anyone could ever have...we dont even consider me adopted...that is my blood!!

[much2say1]

If you read my blogs or visited my web sites you would know.. I have never been unloved and I am not an unhappy person. Im angry that adoption laws made it possible for my birth records to be altered and replaced meaning i had a 22 yr search to find who and where i came from. If you dont consider yourself adopted what has brought you to an adoption video. Non adoptees and non adopters wouldnt think of looking for adoption videos. just my opinion.

[AmRisArt]

Thank you for your video. It's beautiful. I wish that mothers who are considering adoption would get to see it before they make the choice. So many are SO ready to say how adoption is BEST for children...

Oh, the terrible agony that educating mothers honestly could prevent!

Thanks again for your lovely video.

[much2say1]

Thank you AmRisArt for taking the time to comment on my video. tina x

[SweetBajan42]

@AmRisArt Part 2: I think it is all a matter of opinion but I honestly believe that adoption is amazing especially in situations when a babies bio parents may have passed away and they are orphaned or if there bio parents didn't want them or just couldn't handle it. You don't have to be born from your mothers stomach some times from the heart is better.

[SweetBajan42]

@SweetBajan42 Adoption is an amazing thing and wonderful to give children a home when they my not have one and an opportunity for people to parent when they may not be able to have bio children of their own is amazing.

[SweetBajan42]

@SweetBajan42 I think adoptive children should have the right to find there bio parents if the bio parents want to be found. Not all adoptive children feel lost and not whole because they don't know their bio family.

[SweetBajan42]

@SweetBajan42 part 1: Some times adoption is best thou. No one said you can't have contact with your bio parents, but what if they gave you up because they couldn't handle it. the bio parents make the decision it isn't forced on them. they are very educated in what they are doing ( most of the time) To say that adoption hurts the child is not always true.

[SweetBajan42]

@SweetBajan42 part 1: Some times adoption is best thou. No one said you can't have contact with your bio parents, but what if they gave you up because they couldn't handle it. the bio parents make the decision it isn't forced on them. they are very educated in what they are doing ( most of the time) To say that adoption hurts the child is not always true.

[officerbawden17]

you want to know something i was adopted am i mad or sad about it NO i am not i LOVE my parents the people who raised me i will carry their caskets when they die one day and i still have my bio parents last name my bio dad died before i was born and my bio mom died after i was born i am i angry about no **** happens my parents raised me for 18 years i miss them i live in japan but i am going to visit them soon but please ask people who are adopted and learn there feelings instead of websites

[much2say1]

I buried my adoptive mum 2 months ago. She was my mum, the only one i had ever known til 3 years ago. I love her with all my heart and miss her more than i ever thought possible to miss a person. Wanting to know every peice of my own personal history never meant not loving the family that raised me. what should i feel guilty for wanting to know who and where i came from?! And incase you didnt get it.. I AM an adoptee so I think i have as much right as you to air my opinions and feelings.

[much2say1]

Hi thereed, If only all adoptive parents had your attitude. 'Where they came from makes up part of who they are today, and I don't want them to ever forget that'. That quote alone tells me you love your children for who they are. Sadly there are still many adoptive parents who take 'ownership' and want to erase a childs past. We need more adoptive parents like you to speak out and educate the adoptive parents who just dont get 'it'. Thank you for taking the time to comment, Tina

[thereed11]

I am an adoptive mom to 5 kids. They are loved, but where they came from is not forgotten. They were older at the time of adoption. They all feel it was a wonderful thing. We talk about their past often. Where they came from makes up part of who they are today, and I don't want them to ever forget that. Some children want a family to call their very own. My girls feel very secure knowing that they were adopted and not continually considered my adopted children. They are just my children.

[much2say1]

Sammicsno, sorry I meant to reply to you sooner. I know exactly where your coming from. If ever you need to chat or let off some steam just let me know. We cant change our adoption experience but we can help each other and speak out for future adoptees who have no say.

love tina

[Sammicsno]

What did I do to "deserve" the "option" of adoption? I was just born. I was taken from my mother. This was only because she had no support. There was no option. And I wouldn't wish my misery upon anyone. A baby is innocent. Adoption has ruined my life.

[auntafrica]

i agree that their names should be kept-but adoption is in the interest of the child. no you dont give them up JUST because you are poor but if you cant give them a good healthy and safe life they deserve it is an option. to laadri-God Bless you!

[laadri]

IM HAPPY...SAFE...adoption is a really good thing-for me it was- i dont know the reason why my birth mother chose to give me away ... but i know that what she did made me happy for i have friends and a family who cares!! And I know that as a mother i will never give away my children but i also know that i am going to adopt one in need of love and care

[auntafrica]

God Bless You! and the child you plan to adopt.

[laadri]

Im adopted .... and im happy ... I think adoption is great... If you really want to keep your children you can...goverment offers lots of help for woman with children and when it doesn't is because of drugs...or bad habits.... My parents never lied to me I knew I was adopted and for me who they are my mom and dad... I understand when the kid is orphan or mothers ill but anything else i just dont get it...

[ilovetony43]

I'm sorry but the dolls make this video absolutely laughable..."would you love me?"...um they are vinyl baby dolls. I definitely think you need a better argument.

[much2say1]

um yes! the dolls are as fake and obscene as altered birth records. sorry if you were expecting a catalogue of available babies.

[forgottenmommy]

I have mixed feelings about your video. I am a birthmother. I do not regret placing my daughter with her parents. I already had a almost two year old child and was homeless. I know she has a great home with good parents. I think that there should not be an "Amended" Birth Certificate for an adoption, but two. The childs history should not be amended but the diffrent life paths the child travels should be documented. I do support adoption but birthmothers are not disposable. We do not forget.

[much2say1]

Hi forgottenmommy, adoption allows birth records and certificates to be ammended and it is that and the legal severing of all family ties forever that I am against. Every child deserves the love and security of a family but they also deserve the right to keep all birth records and details honest, unaltered and intact. It is possible for a child to have both. You are so right, you are not disposable. You are the heart that beats inside your child x

[forgottenmommy]

My childs records unaltered and intact. I have the ability to update medical info and address when I move. I don't agree with A-parents breaking pre-adoption agreements. I asked to hold her after she was born, to know what they named her and for a picture update. I did get to hold her. I do get a picture once a year. I found our what they named her by way of a bill that the hospital sent me. I was promised little notes on her health and progress. Never happened. This is a big adoption problem.

[mobaby63]

Adoption is so good! It is in the best interest of the child when the parents can not keep or do not wish to keep it. Would you rather they keep the baby and ruin their and the child's lives? Teen parents often end up poor and abusive. Look up a freaking statistic! My little cousin is adopted her mom was sixteen poor and angry. she gave my cousin up, my cus in so happy and blessed. I can't believe you would say something like that! Adoption is bad! Holy cow! Are you for real?!?!

[kbsd123]

"sixteen poor and angry"

maybe your aunt and uncle should have told her what they really think of her BEFORE she handed over her baby.

[mobaby63]

she knew thats what she was that's why out of love she gave her up. And if you think for one second you are going to talk about my family like that You have another thing coming. WATCH YOUR MOUTH!!!

[Akosuakate]

What a silly video. Promoting those lifelike dolls, this video just wants people to buy a doll instead of adopt.  Come on. Adoption is wonderful!!

[myungsook777]

Thank your for this video.

Adoption fuels child traffickings and increases abandonment. Adoption tore too many families apart. It's time to use the money spent on adoptions to help family preservations. Like AdopteeWarrior said, for the cost of one adoption, you could feed multiple families for YEARS in some countries.

[EriSycamore]

I think it is really important for this message to get out there. Sure, some people are incapable of parenting their children, but if it is circumstance that prevents it, then they can be helped. And you don't have to adopt a child in need - fostering can provide a safe and loving environment without stealing the child's identity and genetic heritage. Just because some people had a positive adoption doesn't mean we all did - the other side needs to be heard too.

[AdopteeWarrior]

This is an honest video! Thank you for posting and making it. Through all of the proadoption propoganda it certainly doesn't hurt to have a little honesty involved!

And to the commenter who can't concept "helping children" without "owning" them, i wish you some wisdom. Its very possible to provide for children who need it, without having to posses them and call them yours in order to do so. For the cost of one adoption, you could feed multiple families for YEARS in some countries.

[Treemeadow]

I don't agree. Not all babies can live with their birth mothers. Its not feasible. This video ignores all the other things.

Not all people are fit to be parents- and then there are times when those who are fit can't raise a child because of circumstance.

Adoption is just another form of family. Its not always the right option, but many times it is the only option, and for the better.

[1whatever69]

What would you like,Tina?All babys whos parents are smart enough to know they cannot care for them to be bashed in the head and thrown out?Maybe live in a group home never knowing the love of a family.I am sorry that your adoption went so badly.Alot of bio kids got delt a bad hand to.Go see a shrink.Girl you got problems.

[much2say1]

Before you slag me off you need to learn to actually read what I say. Its the adoption laws and practices im against not kids having loving safe homes. Yes I have a problem... with ignorant people who dont bother to read what is written. You need to learn some manners you are not onl;y rude you are ignorant.

[Kdyl07]

Twhatever69.... i think you are very rude...

Are you adopted? Im guessing not... you obviously have no idea how it feels for the adoptee or the birthmother... I am adopted and I think adoption is very wrong and immorral... i think you should shut your mouth..

[DefyingDisney]

Do you wish you had never met your Adoptive Parents? If you do, then you are in the minority.......sorry if they gave you a horrible life. I don't understand why people adopt a child when they are not planning on loving them :-( Shame on them.

[much2say1]

evilkitty I did do a legnhy reply but I lost the post. I will be totally honest with you I am sick of justifying my feelings to damn right selfish people like you. As long as your life is wonderful then adoption should stay the same and to hell with the ones who hurt. Well no, some ones hurt is no less real or less important than someones wonderful feelings. adoption allows for falsyfing of birth records the taking and replacing of identity and severs family ties forever in the eyes

[much2say1]

of the law. My point - which you missed- Isnt it possible to give a child all that you have AND keep all original birth details unchanged and intact. What is so wrong with not wanting to be erased and reinvented. tina

[evilkitty2007]

I'm sorry but I can't agree with this. I am an adopted child and my life has been wonderful. My birth mother didn't have the ability to care for me herself and made a choice that would mean that I would have a secure and safe life. I love her more than anything and I've never even met her. Anyone who can make that decision is amazing. And I am very happy in my home with my parents. I can't imagine my life any other way and I don't think I would change it if i could.

[kbsd123]

i like all your videos. People thinking that adoption is beautiful and noble is part of the problem.

[ironbunny1016]

No, that sums up your view on adoption.

[ironbunny1016]

More disturbing than the message is the fact you used those freaky dolls.

[much2say1]

Yeh, well that just about sums up adoption

[HoboJen]

I'm not sure where you are all from, but here in Australia it is a lot more difficult to adopt a child than what it is in the USA. I agree that adoption is not perfect answer and that it can often cause more harm to the child involved than good and that money should not exchange hands. However in some circumstances it does work out well. Selling of children is totally wrong, but agencies need to pay their employees, governments need to support their people, and orphanages need funds.

[Treemeadow]

Thankyou for being the voice of reason.

I'm also Australian and its true, its harder to adopt here. There ar eno programs in place for Direct Foster adoption- we do have permanent foster care, though.

I willbe adpting my children, I see no evil in it. Some kids need new homes. I wish it didn't feel like a purchase, but you are right- Can't run an engine wihtout fuel, and you can't do anything without finances.

[casjoh5]

Amazing video. It is the adoptees voice that needs to be heard over all others. Those who don't want to see the truth, don't want to admit where they might be part of the problem.

[dm12359]

I also am an adoptee. Raised by 2 LOVING parents. Words that came to mean something negative and different are, "you are special, you are chosen". Now see as in order to be these things to them i had to be seperated from my blood. As an adult these agencies are still controlling my life. Those original files and certs are MINE, I am no longer there possession to be bought and sold. In our world adoption is an unnessary EVIL, and will continue as long as agencies and lawyers are involved.

[UKSecretCourts]

watch?v=aXuVBbAEqvQ

True story

I think you'll understand what we're saying in this video.

[niederhelm]

As an adoptive mother I find this appalling. I can guarantee you my son's adoption is in his best interest. Adoptions are needed - like it or not.

[much2say1]

What is so appalling about loving and caring for a child without altering birth certificates.How is it in your sons interest to remove and replace his birth details.

[niederhelm]

My son will know his birth details if he wants to know them - it will be his choice when he is older. I never said anything about hiding the fact he is adopted.

[MariannaZF]

niederhelm, you have changed his name and taken over his identity.

You are on the other side and you will never know what it's like.

I did a 7 year reasearch into the illegal adoptions and I know how its done and what the adoptive parents say to the kids.

It all fits into the same pattern.

Thank you for adding yourself to my statistics.

[niederhelm]

How do you know that we changed our son's name? We have an open relationship with his birthparents... but you don't want to hear that because you want to assume all adoptive parents don't care. And how do you know what I say to my son? You shouldn't make blanket statements about adoption - no two adoptions are the same and not everyone is involved in adoption for the wrong reasons.

[Treemeadow]

My children won't be changing their names! Did you know that a lot of adopted children (older) want to change their names? It feels like they are beginning life anew.

My kids will keep their first names, and last name as a middle name. Legally, as their mother, they get my last name. There is nothing wrong about that.

[MariannaZF]

niederhelm, You must be joking of course.

Adoptions are needed?

Says who?

You?

The client?

Your comment is quite appaling.

[niederhelm]

You are kidding yourself if you think there is not a need for adoption in this world... get a clue. If it wasn't for adoption who knows what conditions my son would be living in - is that fair for him - he is a person too - all because his birthparents can not care for him?? There is no shame in adoption - I agree there are adoption that shouldn't happen - our is just not one of those cases so making general blanket statements just doesn't fly with me.

[MariannaZF]

niederhelm, you are kidding yourself into thinking you are one of the saviors of the unfortunate kids on earth.

Everyone of you people think you are a great benefactor.

Spare me the details of what your son's life would have been like, if it weren't for your magnificent self.

I have heard it before.

[niederhelm]

I have never once said I was a savior nor do I believe that for one minute. I am the one who is blessed beyond words to have my son in my life. But you are honestly kidding yourself to believe that adoptive kids can't be happy well adjusted adults because they can be. And not all adoptive parents are horrible people either. I'll agree not all adoptive parents handle adoption in the most ethical way - but there are good adoptive parents regardless of what you think.

[MariannaZF]

niederhelm, look at the statistics and you will find out what I am talking about.

I did not say adoptive parents are horrible people. Nevertheless you have changed the child's name therefore strippinh him of his true identity.

Go adopt some more boys from other countries, you will need them to fight Bush's wars, yes by all means, get the kids out of their misery, to serve your wars.

[niederhelm]

First off our son's name was not changed. Second he was adopted from right here in the USA. Did you even read my comments?  And what does war have to do with this. You are one angry person and I hope you find peace in your life.

[MariannaZF]

That will be the first adoption in history when the child's name or his birth records have not been altered.

America is making wars and take a look at those statistics too and see how many dead and their background.

I am not an angry person at all. But I do get frustrated when people take advantage of the unfortunate, to please themselves instead of assisting their fellow man to stand on their own feet.

[jerigee]

Wow, either you are a birthmom or an adoptee. I'm an adoptive mom, if I had chosen not to adopt my son from an orphanage in Ukraine...he'd still be beaten and worse on a daily basis. I hope that you heal from your anger.

[MariannaZF]

I hope you have adopted legally. There has been a trial in the Ukraine for their illegal adoptions. The authorities are looking for more. There has been an inquiry, through the EU as well. If it was done through an orphanage, they may knock on your door too.

Nevertheless I hope you and your child are fine.

[much2say1]

Adoption is a lucrative buissness. While cash is involved there will always be exploitation. Agencies and cash need to be taken out of the equation. We need a system that has no gain other than the childs welfare. Legal guardianship based solely on suitability and not bank balance. Also a childs birth records should stay exactly as that, a record of their birth. I do hope you took action and reported the orphanage. If not I urge you to do it now.

[Cassieeyes]

Over twenty different people and agencies are involved in any given adoption. It is expensive, but the costs are high because of all the legal work that goes into making adoption legal. Anyone who thinks a life in an orphanage is better than being adopted into a loving home, does not know much about life.

[MariannaZF]

You have just opened this account to comment on Tina's video.

Don't worry, it's legal.

You are saying that adoption is expensive "because of all the legal work that goes into making adoption legal".

Therefore you have just admitted that children are bought and to make the merchandise legal you are paying too many people.

We do know how many corrupt go-betweens are paid at the damn orphanages.

It is not the legal cost per se.

[Cassieeyes]

What is the cost of not being loved?

[much2say1]

Unbelievable!! Can you not love without certificate of ownership!!

[MariannaZF]

Who has appointed you guardian of the children in the world?

[MariannaZF]

Tell me now. Have you adopted from the Ukraine or Rumania perhaps? Are you in trouble with the law?

[MariannaZF]

I forgot, you people need soldiers for Iraq and whichever other place you are going to invade!!!

Go ahead, buy more kids to show them how much you love them and send them off to another damn war.

You are pathetic.

[DWD420]

That is a ridiculus statment! How can you compare adoption to america needed solders? In just about all your statments you make asumptions that every adoptee and adopter are the same and each adoption happens in the same way....thats not true...yes there are cases where the adoption was not in the best intrest of the child but in some cases it is best. It is far better for a child to grow up knowing love then poverty and neglect!!

[MariannaZF]

Well, uprooting kids from their countries is not the answer. Americans more than any other peoples on earth, adopt from overseas.

[much2say1]

No body is suggesting children stay in orphanages. The expense involved far from ensuring that all is is legal has in fact made it a lucrative market. Each year more and more corrupt agencies are being exposed.What is your objection to Legal guardianship without profit and without altering birth records? We are talking about a child's best interest not ownership.

[146insane]

I think you are worried. You have adopted a child illegally and you 've come here to explain the adoption cost. If it makes you feel better its fine. If you are trying to convince anybody else, I suggest you take a look at the FBI, the EU and the UN websites and maybe you will understand it is not ok to sell human beings and it is not ok to uproot people to satisfy your American inflated egos.

[much2say1]

Well said 146insane and Marianna x

[146insane]

Don't pay any attention to people like them. They live in fear of themselves because of all the illegalities involved. I hope they end up in prison.

[MariannaZF]

Message to all. Be who you are. Nobody can take that away, no-matter what happens in one's life.