Finding this explantion was a eureka moment for me. I new from early on how important the hip action was and completely digested Hogans five steps, took it literaly (I'm thinking now about his analogy with the elastic band pulling the left hip back) and of coarse came over the top. This makes it clear and for that I thank you.
I have had problems in my downswing for years, this is the first tip that I think sets everything clear and simple enough to start practising it having a clear image of what i should do. I still have to work on it, but man! get an A+ for the explanation and the simplification. I'll tell you how it is working!
You need to make an instructional DVD. Your tips are some of the most useful around. Keep it up.
And if you do, include tips over a few holes on a course including strategy and technique variation according to situation as most DVDs don't include that sort of thing.
aorry ringer, but you really over complicate things. and you assume this would work for everyone. but it proberly wont. some people need more centred hips, where your rigte hip kinda moves towards the target, whereas some need more a move over the right hip
Twisting the hip is the biggest FAULT I see with the hip action and you would prefer it for some people? You MUST get your weight off the back foot, but if you try to twist as you're advocating, you'll never get off of it and eventually develop a reverse pivot.
definately get your weight off you front foot. not everyone needs to get more behind the ball. keeping the centre of the base of the spine more centred will help them stay on top of the ball. i dont like to keep weight on the front foot. on the downswing, as the left hip clears it will also slide forward. again it is totally dependent on the players needs
no no no you miss the point. in the backswing, i believe it is incorrect to say EVERYBODY needs the same thing. some ppl need to be more behind the ball, some need to be more centred. in a more centred backswing, as the left hip turns it will slide at the same time. and this in turn will shift the weight forward
Thanks a lot for doing these videos Steve. One tip though, have the sun in your face instead of your back and the shot (video shot that is) will look a whole lot better!
Great explanation of the hip motion in the swing. I find myself in the finish position that you show of the hips that just turn. It looks like a coming out of the shot pose and it results in many sliced or pushed shots. I think the spine tilt you show,( is it reverse K?) might be something I will try to implement to stop this. I do see my left foot turning open all the time also. If I square it to target line its tough to get around that left hip and it wants to move.
I think its clear what initiates the downswing. Many people are confused about what continues to drive the club through impact. After the hips are square from the downswing, what drives the club to impact and release? I find myself off balance and losing spine tilt if i continue to "step through" with the hips only. Should one focus on driving the right shoulder to impact after the left hip is replaced? Or should i focus on "stepping through" and leave shoulder drive passive?
Lets revision your walk through a bit. Imagine that there is a coffee table right at your knees and only a few inches away. Your objective is to walk through the swing without letting your legs touch the table.
Is it safe to say that once my body becomes weak and tired, the first thing that can stop happening is my hip turn? I have noticed this, and when this happens, I end up coming WAY over the top enough so that everything is a s#$%k.
Good question Tongzilla. First off I believe Hogan actually had a bit of a stronger grip than neutral. Not much of one, but a little... and he was trying to play a fade. If you want to hit a fade, by all means you can pull the left hip away from the ball.
So you think grip and fade ball flight causes the inside left foot to come off the ground at finish? But you and I both know that this also happens with a draw flight and neutral grip.
The left hip in all good golf swings HAS TO turn out of the way. Of course, you need a certain amount of hip slide before that happens, but whether you look at in terms of the right hip turning around the left or vice versa, it happens. And the reason why GOOD players have their toes come off at the finish is because their swings are DYNAMIC.
tonqzilla, the reason the inside of front (left) foot is a little off the ground at finish is because the left hip completed it's role of turning to target to a full finish. The upper body ends up over the left leg placing more weight slightly to the outside of foot...
Steve mentioned he doesn't want this happening prior the impact area which would cause an outside-in motion...and he is right. If the left hip turns prematurely (before the weight gets back on left side...knee over ankle)then this occurs...
Also with regards to the left toes a little off ground at finish is because as we finish into a taller straighter finish, our spine becomes more erect placing more weight further back towards our heels. Talking when you look at the swing from the profile view (down the line).For those who remain with more of their starting spine angle at finish...the left toes come up less.
EXCELLENT VIDEO! You just answered many of my questions and issues related with the hip movements. Thanks very much for taking the time out to put these videos up!!!
A couple of suggestions for you Mr. Ringer. First, you need to stand closer to the camera and second, you should position yourself so that the Sun is at your front, not your back. Or, if that is not possible, use a reflector to illuminate your front side. Also, it would be helpful if you would have made a full swing motion.
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smoothswinging14 1 year ago
Thank you steve today i tried this and i hit so nice
gregorioch 1 year ago
Finding this explantion was a eureka moment for me. I new from early on how important the hip action was and completely digested Hogans five steps, took it literaly (I'm thinking now about his analogy with the elastic band pulling the left hip back) and of coarse came over the top. This makes it clear and for that I thank you.
splash365247 2 years ago
well done steve i normally twist my hips resulting in a reverse pivot this is a great tip
eddiebutt1 2 years ago
Steve: Great job Steve. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. Your are a great communicator. Karl
karmye 2 years ago
that was very helpfull thanks
golfrules08 2 years ago
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northrightsouthleft 2 years ago
I have had problems in my downswing for years, this is the first tip that I think sets everything clear and simple enough to start practising it having a clear image of what i should do. I still have to work on it, but man! get an A+ for the explanation and the simplification. I'll tell you how it is working!
danic18 2 years ago
You need to make an instructional DVD. Your tips are some of the most useful around. Keep it up.
And if you do, include tips over a few holes on a course including strategy and technique variation according to situation as most DVDs don't include that sort of thing.
peterfileproductions 3 years ago
aorry ringer, but you really over complicate things. and you assume this would work for everyone. but it proberly wont. some people need more centred hips, where your rigte hip kinda moves towards the target, whereas some need more a move over the right hip
pecky1234 3 years ago
Twisting the hip is the biggest FAULT I see with the hip action and you would prefer it for some people? You MUST get your weight off the back foot, but if you try to twist as you're advocating, you'll never get off of it and eventually develop a reverse pivot.
RingerDaMan 3 years ago
definately get your weight off you front foot. not everyone needs to get more behind the ball. keeping the centre of the base of the spine more centred will help them stay on top of the ball. i dont like to keep weight on the front foot. on the downswing, as the left hip clears it will also slide forward. again it is totally dependent on the players needs
pecky1234 3 years ago
Can you show me an example of a professional that finishes with his weight on his back foot?
RingerDaMan 3 years ago
no no no you miss the point. in the backswing, i believe it is incorrect to say EVERYBODY needs the same thing. some ppl need to be more behind the ball, some need to be more centred. in a more centred backswing, as the left hip turns it will slide at the same time. and this in turn will shift the weight forward
pecky1234 3 years ago
Thanks a lot for doing these videos Steve. One tip though, have the sun in your face instead of your back and the shot (video shot that is) will look a whole lot better!
quacktron 3 years ago
Great explanation of the hip motion in the swing. I find myself in the finish position that you show of the hips that just turn. It looks like a coming out of the shot pose and it results in many sliced or pushed shots. I think the spine tilt you show,( is it reverse K?) might be something I will try to implement to stop this. I do see my left foot turning open all the time also. If I square it to target line its tough to get around that left hip and it wants to move.
mpb1472 4 years ago
I think its clear what initiates the downswing. Many people are confused about what continues to drive the club through impact. After the hips are square from the downswing, what drives the club to impact and release? I find myself off balance and losing spine tilt if i continue to "step through" with the hips only. Should one focus on driving the right shoulder to impact after the left hip is replaced? Or should i focus on "stepping through" and leave shoulder drive passive?
olivershoe 4 years ago
Great question!
Lets revision your walk through a bit. Imagine that there is a coffee table right at your knees and only a few inches away. Your objective is to walk through the swing without letting your legs touch the table.
RingerDaMan 4 years ago
Thanks Ringer. Just wondering, what kept you from going to q school?
olivershoe 4 years ago
Same thing for a lot of people.. money. It's not just talent that takes you far you have to have money.
RingerDaMan 4 years ago
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Re-establishment of the left hip made easier with a proper setup and using the leverage built up in your right leg to do it---great explanation!
backbones88 4 years ago
Is it safe to say that once my body becomes weak and tired, the first thing that can stop happening is my hip turn? I have noticed this, and when this happens, I end up coming WAY over the top enough so that everything is a s#$%k.
HunterDT 4 years ago
Very well illustrated, I'v read alot of golf instruction books but find your videos the best for getting to point.
jacket14 4 years ago
Hey this is a good videos I understand why the golf ball goes not where i want it. Hey Ringer this Topflite_d2 off golf forum.
racequad250 4 years ago
Why do so many great players including Hogan and Woods finish with the inside left foot off the ground?
tongzilla 4 years ago
Good question Tongzilla. First off I believe Hogan actually had a bit of a stronger grip than neutral. Not much of one, but a little... and he was trying to play a fade. If you want to hit a fade, by all means you can pull the left hip away from the ball.
RingerDaMan 4 years ago
So you think grip and fade ball flight causes the inside left foot to come off the ground at finish? But you and I both know that this also happens with a draw flight and neutral grip.
tongzilla 4 years ago
Can you provide an example? Perhaps maybe SOMEONE out there with incredible hand eye coordination, but you'll be lucky to find one.
RingerDaMan 4 years ago
The left hip in all good golf swings HAS TO turn out of the way. Of course, you need a certain amount of hip slide before that happens, but whether you look at in terms of the right hip turning around the left or vice versa, it happens. And the reason why GOOD players have their toes come off at the finish is because their swings are DYNAMIC.
tongzilla 4 years ago
youtube won't let me post links of clips, so I sent you a message instead.
tongzilla 4 years ago
tonqzilla, the reason the inside of front (left) foot is a little off the ground at finish is because the left hip completed it's role of turning to target to a full finish. The upper body ends up over the left leg placing more weight slightly to the outside of foot...
hogansking 4 years ago
Steve mentioned he doesn't want this happening prior the impact area which would cause an outside-in motion...and he is right. If the left hip turns prematurely (before the weight gets back on left side...knee over ankle)then this occurs...
hogansking 4 years ago
Also with regards to the left toes a little off ground at finish is because as we finish into a taller straighter finish, our spine becomes more erect placing more weight further back towards our heels. Talking when you look at the swing from the profile view (down the line).For those who remain with more of their starting spine angle at finish...the left toes come up less.
hogansking 4 years ago
EXCELLENT VIDEO! You just answered many of my questions and issues related with the hip movements. Thanks very much for taking the time out to put these videos up!!!
sak777 4 years ago
A couple of suggestions for you Mr. Ringer. First, you need to stand closer to the camera and second, you should position yourself so that the Sun is at your front, not your back. Or, if that is not possible, use a reflector to illuminate your front side. Also, it would be helpful if you would have made a full swing motion.
Swingtech 4 years ago
Thank you for the suggestions. It's a low budget operation. :D
RingerDaMan 4 years ago
this is the best comment ive heard about hip action
zaphod2 4 years ago