@MySecretWeapon77 That's more than likely not correct. Rome had the most flexible and organized military, which is vastly more important to warfare than the strength of the individual warrior.
Oh, no. Again with this pankration shit. You cannot revive a martial art that is dead for thousands of years. You can only invent a new one and name it like the old one.
@proquaker Pankration never really died, it has always been practices by Greek people, even when the Romans conquered Greece. It had been modernized a little (as all martial arts have been to some extent) but most people have tried to get back to the roots of the art.
They used the same tactics, and got the same results (or lack thereof), as modern Coalition forces in Afghanistan. You can't use heavy metal again swift forces in wide open, firm ground....didn't our generals and politicians learn anything from the Crusades centuries ago, troops of Genghis Khan-who was constantly outnumbered by heavily armed and armored European knights and Persian heavy cavalry.
...Muslim arrows punched through mail, which the knights were covered in and which was very heavy. Though their mail was of better quality than the mail of previous centuries, it still only offered protection that was marginally better than that of boiled leather (boiled leather is in fact better for stopping arrows when worn over a heavy silk vest)....they were the military elite of Europe in their time, but not one of the top 6 warriors of all time...IMHO.
Crusaders were ignorant and inflexible for the most part militarily, mail covered knights on large and strong but short winded horses, during the crusade and though the Templars were the elite-the Muslim cavalry rode circles around them on the open deserts of Judea and Syria, all the while loosing arrows from their composite bows, jabbing with lances and hacking with curved swords...using their hardy mounts, light but protective armor made from overlapping scales of boiled leather or iron.
the only good warrior, is one that has no desire for fighting, who can go back home to wife and kids, and peace, without being constantly weary of might be attacks.
regardless of code during war, because when you get down to it, its you vs the other guy.
@ljp200 it was a detachment of 300 spartans with 7500(give or take) other greeks. leonidas then had the greeks retreat because he knew it was a suicide mission. the rest of the spartan army and the other greeks then repelled the weakened persians after the 300 were slaughtered at the hot gates
Sparta shows the paradoxical effect of militarism taken to an extreme actually undermines a cultures military effectiveness & ability to reproduce - the point of militarism is therefore defeated in both Sparta's case & the case of the Japanese use of Bushido in ww2 as a motivating factor for resisting colonisation - Sparta was conquered by the Stoic & Epicurean rationality of Rome's legions & the Japanese by the Anglo-Saxon powers which inherited Western Rationalism from Rome.
Yea i could get stabbed, skull smashed in, nothing much, but the shield, it rose up hit me in the mouth, could've lost a tooth ! You gotta be careful what your doin ! Game over dude, there's no coming back from that.
close high guards were not used before the modern invention of gloves even a brief study of the evolution of british boxing (our boxing, not greek, no greek martial art ever survied past ur basic vase) used a low guard to parry keeping ur hand up will cause them to slam against ur face constantly and there are more gaps to exploit in a high guard if there are no gloves in use. this is pankratios watch?v=jx7Zb3z8RQs not that watered down MMA
@Koryvantes Erm, no. Only the ethnic Persians ever engaged at Platatea, as well as the Thebans. The rest of the army didn't make it, or was stopped by the rather unloyal Artabanus. Thus the Greeks had a numerical advantage. Although there wasn't that much difference to begin with, only 40 thousand infantry at the most on the Persian side, as well as some cavalry which didn't really make a difference.
Greek forces were extremely lucky in Platea. Massistios, the natural military leader of the Persian army, was killed in a skirmish with Athenian infantry before the main battle.
After this Persian Army did not have a high caliber leader to act coherent in he battle field
Also my belief is that Spartans had very good Intelligence Services that played important role in the battle
@Koryvantes Lol, no, Masistos was a minor cavalry officer. Mardonius was the commander in chief, and he died fighting the Spartans... Taking an arrow to the eye.
@Koryvantes LOL wtf... Mašasta was a CAVALRY commander. He probably held little more than the rank of HAZARAPATISH. Mardaniya was a SATRAP. That's like 10 ranks higher.
Besides, the cavalry didn't really matter, since the Spartans anchored their flanks. What could've won the empire the battle would be Artaban arriving with the center, which he didn't. Had he, the armies would be equal in size, more or less, and the Persian's overall superiority would've defeated the disorganized Greeks.
I told you before that the Greek Cities Alliance army was extremely lucky in this battle. Basically outnumbered without water in a flat land without obstacles.
But same story repeats in all major battles between Achaemenid Empire and Greeks till the end of the Achaemenid Empire. Is this a coincidence?
@Koryvantes LOLWUT? Have you forgotten Thymbra, the conquest of Ionia, the first Lydian/Ionian revolt, the conquest of Egypt, the second Ionian revolt, the Athenian campaign in Egypt, the revolt of Cyprus, the campaigns of Ariobarzanes?
Also, Plataea was advantageous to the Greeks - they held the high ground, their flanks were secure, and they were better supplied than their enemies. Counting the light troops they also had the numerical advantage.
@Koryvantes As if Greeks had military academies. You probably didn't catch my point - which is that Greeks were defeated by Persians at least as many times as the other way around.
Regarding Plataea - the Persians were encamped in a gradient plain before the river, the Greeks were encamped on a steeper slope. The Spartan's flanks were also guarded by a rocky formation.
for sure Persians did have many victories against Greeks. Also think that their losses in Plataea and Salamina were not and important issue for them. They barely mention in their official documents.
@DragonOfQin from the culture and from how many years they existed, to what they've done. That dynasty doesnt have something remarkable to me, all the history of china is great though...
@elasolezito well they fought for 300 years and unified China but after the Dynasty emperor was de-throned, the terracotta army was gone. However, their legacy remains in clay.
@elasolezito Yeah! The Mummy of the Dragon Emperor movie was about the Terracotta Army. So the Terracotta Army was very similar to the Macedonian army then. Ironically both empires were fueled by agriculture as well. The Terracotta Army was under Qin Dynasty. Qing Dynasty with a G at the end was the last dynasty of China which ended 1912. Qin ended 206BC.
@elasolezito All of them were good warriors but not like spartans, spartans were trained from the age of 7 years old to be the best of the best. Not only with weapons but in pankration (modern MMA) too. They were the best of the best but they were very few in numbers, one against one spartans were unbeatable
@passariskwstas The Spartans were defeated at Sphacteria in 425 BC by the Athenians, 292 Spartans agreeing to surrender and being taken prisoner a 11,000 strong Spartan army was destroyed at Leuctra in 371 BC by the Thebans (whose army was only 6000 men) Thermopylae,( the 300 / 8000 lol ) remember that the Spartans did LOSE that battle spartans worked hard to build this myth of their own invincibility
@evilscotsmin Yeah, but in different conditions. In the same conditions and tactics with the same numbers Sparans were the best warriors in ancient world. Of course Athenians and Thebans were good warriors too because all of them were Greeks and had the same warrior training and armor. In a battle strategy own a big part too, but in one against one spartans were the best ...
who gives a fuck what the presenter is? so u were a green beret what the fuck does tat have to do with spartan armies???????????? over indulgent yank wanker!!!!! was looking forward to watching this until he spoke about himself now im avoiding these!!!!!
*All* ancient societies let "weak" (i.e. handicapped) babies die - they simply didn't have the resources to look after non-productive members of society. So, yes, Spartans did it, but so did everyone else.
that so, stratigos?! then why is there so many athenian scripts documenting how much land or money or slaves a man must own to be entitled a vote in the athens?! athens is the homeland of democracy but according to both socrates and plato only approximately 10% of the male popultation was eligable to vote, and only if they could fund a millitary unit!
@Tarantio1983 What scripts you talk about? Where did you read that? Do you really talk about 5th and 4th century B.C.? First of all owning a slave in Athens was already a huge luxury. Having 2 slaves meant you were already mid-upper class. Most slaves were actually state-owned slaves and worked pretty much as civil servants (eg. the 100% of policemen were made out of slave archers). There was no law stating that landless and poor could not vote, where did you come up with?
@Tarantio1983 On the opposite, there were even benefits for those that served in public positions since half the citizens could not otherwise take up a public position and leave their full-time professional occupation, they simply did not have that luxury - that is how those laws were brought to action to resolve that.
And citizens did not fund a military unit (!!!!!). They were THEMSELVES the military units. Rich in cavalry, middle class in hoplites, poor in light infantry & archers
as to the shield being a weapon, i think most cultures that shields used them offensively as well as defensively - look @ the nordic culture, there's reports in the edic-sagas that shields were used as a knuckle-dusters to batter an enemy!
athens wasn't truly democratic, only approximately 10% of the population culd vote - these being rich men of a certain age!
also only athenian men culd b sporting & own property, but sparta allowed women to own property and partake in sporting activity!
@Tarantio1983 You are wrong.Political rights had nothing to do with the financial status of the men.Check wikipedia and βικιπαίδεια about Athenian democracy or Αθηναική δημοκρατία.About the women you are right..Sparta respected their women much more than other cities states.
y does this guy put so much focus on shields? a shield's only so good for forcing ur opponent to move how u want, but a push and shove tactic won't win a battle ... what will is using either a spear or sword to attack the man! as to the greek martial arts might be the earliest recorded martial arts in the western world but i'm fairly possitive that there might have been stuff before that, however does the first written record of something mean that that account is the 'origional' instance of it?
@Tarantio1983 the Spartans used it also to slam into their opponents head,neck or throat. the shield was a great weapon for the Spartans. in the phalanx they pushed their shields towards their enemies. with the spear they stabbed from underneath the shield, above the shield nobody saw it coming because the spartan shield blocked their vision almost completely. their shield was incrediby strong even in recent tests there is no melee weapon that could crush the Spartan shield.
@BraveManNewWorld Greek historian Plutarch said, that weak or deflected babies were killed by starvation or have been thrown from the cliff. Some of them were made slaves for Spartans.
@Morr1992... and Herodotos said that some gods were import from egypt. What that means? That he was talling the truth? Of course not, because the Egyptian say a story about Greeks which have this gods around 12000b.c. So the Egyptian, say that Herodotos is laying.
Look man, research happen on places and no bones found... nothing. So theory busted
@BraveManNewWorld Well, our entire ancient history is based on what historians told us. We don't havy proof for half of our history, if not more. I will give it another look though. Maybe they weren't thrown off the cliff, but rather starved to death? Or as documentary says: left for wild animals.
@BraveManNewWorld Yep, spartans gave everyone a chance. Weaklings perished soon after birth through hard regime, maintained even to the youngest, in a spartan homes.
@BraveManNewWorld After 300 came out I set out to find out how true the story was, I learned alot from many sources. In every source I found they almost always mentioned that the ancient spartans inspected the babies and those with defect (I assume too premature, or with physical deformity) were left in the mountains. If you're gonna claim something atleast prove it!
@ataraxic89 ... Give the book name and what number of line or what chapter. IF you say that you read that, then you have to give me the source of ancient book, so i can check it. ANCIENT BOOK, not book that was writen after or today...
@BraveManNewWorld Okay, no problem. Because unlike you I can use the internet. Look up plutarch's "life of lycurgus" About halfway through (my source doesnt have a page number) he clearly says that they would take the baby to the elders and if they were lacking they would leave them at a sacred chasm. And whats with this baseless history denial? Are you greek and cant admit they did that back then or are you just crazy?
@ataraxic89 .. UNLIKE you i have the book.... so Lycurgus lived around 800b.c. Ploutarch live 800 years after... So i will NOT take what Ploutarch said for truth... You must understand that the life was no different than the today. We have different opinions, and diferrent historical referrence for a lot of things. That which are very important is the description of the heliocentric system in Timeus, that is something which nobody can tell it not the truth, because the description is the prove.
@ataraxic89 ..2) I am trying to say, it is the same thing as what some peoples say, that the ancient greeks were gay.... because when they speak for love Έρως, they analyse all kind... anyway knowledge is power. If you ask me, if they have done something like that, i will anwser you NO, why? because i know, in order to have so many ideals, you can from the other way killing babes. You can NOT be both....
@ataraxic89 3)... So... is spartans killing the weak babes? NO.... you say Yes? Prove it with arheology. I will then accept it. I will also accept it if he have 5 differrent reference... and if that was happen, be sure that Plato or Aristotle will mention it in their books.... so
@ataraxic89 ... Man i think i was clear... in order to say that this is truth, without archeological evidence, you need at least 4 or 5 differrent source. We have over 1500 books, ancient books, and this is mention in one? If that had happen, be sure that you will today find it at least from 10 different author.
ex.
In order to know that socrates really exist and is not fiction, we have crossed from a lot of ancient author, his existance. So we know, that socrates exist as person.
@ataraxic89 ... B) You can't speak for those importans issues by guessing.... you need evidence to support this theory. You can't say i am a kiler, without evidence to prove it.... it's not proper. SO if in something you don't have evidence you don't say it.... this is the right way
Ρε φιλε μου.............. οι Σπαρτιατες δεν σκοτωναν τα αδυναμα μωρα.... Αυτα ολα ειναι μαλ...ες. Μετα απο ερευνες που εγιναν, δεν βρεθηκαν κοκκαλα κ.τ.λ. και ετσι επισημως αυτη η εκδοχη δεν ισχυει πλεον.....
Διορθωσε το στο 4:50 του βιντεο. Κανε μια υποσημειωση στα Αγγλικα να μην νομιζουν οτι οι Σπαρτιατες σκοτωναν τα αδυναμα μωρα.
Πω πω ρε παιδια, ποση προπαγανδα εναντιον των Ελληνων;;;
Βασικα δεν βρηκαν κανενα στοιχειο για να υποστηριξουν αυτο το θεμα. Ειναι καθαρα θεμα προπαγανδας
@BraveManNewWorld The Spartans did not kill weak babies .... This is no hair ... s. After research has found no bones, etc. and so formally this version no longer valid .....
Correction at 4:50 of the video. Make a footnote in English do not think the Spartans kill weak babies.
Wow guys, how much propaganda against the Greeks???
Actually found no evidence to support this issue. It is purely propaganda
βλέπω τη σειρά και χάρηκα που αφιέρωσε ο τύπος επεισόδειο στους απόλυτους πολεμιστές.τέλεια δουλειά της ομάδας και λυπάμαι που δίνουν μικρή βάση πλέον στη μάχη δίχως πυρομαχικά στις Ενοπλες δυνάμεις μας..λίγο kick boxing και λογχομαχία συμβολική δεν βοηθάνε πολυ σε μια κακη στιγμή.Ανάλογη(σχετικα) εκπαιδευση και σκεπτικό εχουν οι Gurkhas με όπλο αναλογο της κοπίδας το kukri η kukuri( εκπληκτική η ομοιοτητα με την κοπίδα)
It has to be made clear here in case of any misunderstanding (and with the utmost respect to the colossus called Paul Cartledge-I understand there's not enough time for him to explain this properly); The Greeks fighting on Persian side were mainly Macedonians & Thessalians who were either fed up with Athens Sparta & other city states 4 continuously bullying them, or had their cities already raised or out of fear surrendered. King Xerxes added them in his army while descending in south Greece
Just as a reminder,the Romans NEVER fought an hoplite phalanx,they fought against macedonian-styled phalanxes.The hoplites were much better armed,armoured and trained for hand-to-hand combat than the phalangites,but as a tactical formation,the macedonian phalanx was much more effective because of the sarissa and the massive wall of pikes that it created.
@chrisgr2008 The use of sarissas and heavy cavalry (which did not exist in Greek city state armies) and the genius of Philip and Alexander won the day for the Macedonians at Chaeronea and made the hoplitic phalanx obsolete.By the time Romans started fighting the Hellenistic armies,there were no hoplites anymore.
@chrisgr2008 Greek Cavalary used the Xiston... its another type of spear.. and Greek Marines used the "naumachon Dory" ...Till Alexanders death Hoplites used as Ekdromoi like Ipaspites... Hellenistic Phalanx during Alexander was the best formation cuz the phallagists knew how to use their swords (like classic phalanx) after Alexanders death we didnt... thats why Romans Conquer Greeks , no-flat terrain + no skills on sword = defeat
Sinexiste etsi! Eutixws merikoi kratane "thermopyles" akomi kai simera pou ta protipa ta dinoun ta MME. Tha ithela poli i katagogi m na einai ap tin Sparti alla kai i Korinthos kali einai :) vgalame kalous pezonautes sta arxaia xronia ...
@xhagast "once" is the key word in your statement. "once" does not negate the time-tested effectiveness of the phalanx. the phalanx armies of archaic and classical greece were the most effective fighting units of the time. a phalanx army, when used properly (the campaigns of Alexander, for example) could dominate the battlefield. they were still no match for the roman legion, but thats also heavy infantry. point is, phalanxes usually defeated their lightly-armed opponents
@IRA166 The phalanx was always a magnificent formation. But it was vulnerable in the flanks and the rear. The moment the Persians had surrounded Leonidas he was done for. He was killed by ARROWS. They didn't even need to send more infantry to hit him in the back. The Roman phalanx was nowhere near as inflexible and heavy and at Canae Hannibal slaughtered it as soon as he was able to get at its flanks.
@xhagast the legions that hannibal slaughtered at cannae were different from the phalanxes of greece. the greeks carried long spears and the legionaries carried two pila for throwing and did most of their combat with the gladius. the phalanxes only resorted to using their swords when their spears were broken. and any formation will be crushed if it's flanks and rear are surrounded. also, the troops hannibal used to flank the romans at cannae were his african heavy infantry & cavalry
@xhagast we're both making valid points. i just don't really agree with your initial comment that the phalanx "doesn't work all that well." light infantry can certainly defeat heavy infantry if it can get around its flanks, but it takes a good general and a bit of luck for that to happen.
@IRA166 The thing is that Schappert's enthusiasm bothers me a bit. He was always very impressed with everything. Maybe he was right to be. Maybe his being a soldier, tough as nails but used to modern weapons, makes the surprisingly sophisticated and effective old-time techniques impress him. But it still bothers me a bit. Makes him look a bit kissass.
@wainspoten giati esy ti emathes sto sxoleio oti htan ena ethnos tote h poleis-krath? h mipws oti xekinousan polemous gia th plaka tous kai den htan lougkres sa tous shmerinous koloneoellhnes? o Pelloponhsiakos polemos sou leei kati?
@Elspethknighterrant - Palio homo-SAPIE, ma8e prwta ti 8a pei E8nos kai meta grapse tis mlkies sou ... anidee, milas kiolas ... to oti melh ths idias fylhs maxontai gia kuriarxika dikaiwmata kai zwtiko xwro se mia perioxh de shmainei oti den einai omoe8noi... palio probokatora an8ellhna ... traba diabase tous Persikous polemous prwta kai meta 3anapes mou gia ton Peloponhsiako polemo... blaxako , idia glwssa, idies kataboles, idioi 8eoi, idia idanika...
@Elspethknighterrant ... anti na les euxaristw pou eixes thn tuxh na gennh8eis se ena apo ta pio lampera shmeia tou planhth, me thn megaluterh prosfora sthn an8rwpothta, tolmas kai 3estomizeis ubreologies gia tous progonous mas... kati tetoioi san esena eixan thn tuxh tou Lykidh - se sumbouleuw na diabaseis ti epa8e kai giati, gia na pareis mia idea poso shmantika einai ta idanika pou uperaspizetai o ELLHN - mpas kai katalabeis ti shmainei na eisai An8rwpos kai oxi aplws zw-on
@wainspoten profanws eisai peiragmenos ston egkefalo kai de xereis gri apo istorika themata. Ti ibreologia xestomisa vre panivlaka? Kai oi progonoi mas einai nekroi opote de nomizw na paraxighthoun. Kai kati teleutaio prwta eisai anthrwpos kai meta Ellhnas. Ta ethnh,to misos kai oi diaxwristikes grammes einai oi prokatalipseis kai pseudaisthiseis pou epevale o anthrwpos kai sfazei to idio tou genos ana tous aiwnes. Oute ta zwa pou ipovivazeis de to kanoun auto, ilithie xrisaughth
@Elspethknighterrant - mpampouine ... poios e3umnhse ton An8rwpo ?? mhpws htan oi fasistes oi Ellhnes ?? autoi pou twra diateinesai pws spernoun misos anamesa stous an8rwpous ??? prin 3ekinhseis na diabaseis istoria, ma8e liga pragmatakia apo fusikes episthmes, an8rwpologia kai koinwniologia ... h Istoria einai aplws katagrafh gegonotwn ... h ermhneia tous exei ousia ... pi8ikaki ... se lupame giati zeis se megalh agnoia kai aparamilh blakeia ... poiotiko xarakthristiko tou ZWOU ...
@wainspoten mpampouine,pithikaki mpla mpla...arnoumai na mpw sth diadikasia na sou apanthsw giati kaneis sa paidaki kai meiwneis th syzhthsh.Tha sou pw mono auto.H istoria den einai aplh katagrafh gegonotwn.H istoria grafetai apo tous nikhtes.Oi megaloi Ellhnes tou xthes einai poly megaloi se sygkrish me tous ilithious tou shmera.Kaneis den amfisvhtei oti oi Ellhnes einai ena genos apla den eixan pragmatikh enothta mexri ton Mega Alexandro.Oloi to xeroun auto.Mathe na sizhtas anti na vrizeis
@trelagiatonari ki ekei pou leei oti: ''oloi 3eroume ton 8rylo me tous 300 Spartiates, alla egw 8elw na paw pio pera apo ton mytho kai na dw pws zousan...'' Mythos, 8rylos, do3asia, pisth ... de tou eipe kanenas tou teneke oti einai ISTORIA auto ?? alla kata ta alla gamato ''Documentary'' ouuuuu 3eftiles
@KHNSOR Ευχαριστουμε πολύ φιλε για τα καλα σου λόγια .Ειναι οπωςτα λές , το ντοκυμαντερ αν και πολύ αξιόλογο δεν ετυχε αναλογης προβολης απο τα ελληνικά Μ.Μ.Ε....
seriously, anytime theres a history document about warfare, bring terry in. hes a great host, with genuine interest & enthusiasm on & off camera. his enthusiasm fed 2 me too. dude should get more air time for anything related to ancient-medieval warfare.
why the hell did they cancel this show??? same with fight quest, human weapon and deadliest warrior? these were the best shows. i think ancient warriors are the most interesting and cool thing to learn about. i guess some idiots dont agree and they ger all my favorite shows cancelled
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AEKGETTO 23 hours ago
AWESOME SKILLS......
jtapa73 2 days ago
I heard somewhere else that the Spartans boycoted the Olympics rather than that they were banned.
Piatasify 3 days ago
its funny because the romans had the strongest warriors
MySecretWeapon77 3 days ago
@MySecretWeapon77 That's more than likely not correct. Rome had the most flexible and organized military, which is vastly more important to warfare than the strength of the individual warrior.
israellupine 3 days ago
Oh, no. Again with this pankration shit. You cannot revive a martial art that is dead for thousands of years. You can only invent a new one and name it like the old one.
proquaker 2 weeks ago
@proquaker Pankration never really died, it has always been practices by Greek people, even when the Romans conquered Greece. It had been modernized a little (as all martial arts have been to some extent) but most people have tried to get back to the roots of the art.
1169Timothy 1 week ago
They used the same tactics, and got the same results (or lack thereof), as modern Coalition forces in Afghanistan. You can't use heavy metal again swift forces in wide open, firm ground....didn't our generals and politicians learn anything from the Crusades centuries ago, troops of Genghis Khan-who was constantly outnumbered by heavily armed and armored European knights and Persian heavy cavalry.
legioXequestriis 2 weeks ago
...Muslim arrows punched through mail, which the knights were covered in and which was very heavy. Though their mail was of better quality than the mail of previous centuries, it still only offered protection that was marginally better than that of boiled leather (boiled leather is in fact better for stopping arrows when worn over a heavy silk vest)....they were the military elite of Europe in their time, but not one of the top 6 warriors of all time...IMHO.
legioXequestriis 2 weeks ago
Crusaders were ignorant and inflexible for the most part militarily, mail covered knights on large and strong but short winded horses, during the crusade and though the Templars were the elite-the Muslim cavalry rode circles around them on the open deserts of Judea and Syria, all the while loosing arrows from their composite bows, jabbing with lances and hacking with curved swords...using their hardy mounts, light but protective armor made from overlapping scales of boiled leather or iron.
legioXequestriis 2 weeks ago
the only good warrior, is one that has no desire for fighting, who can go back home to wife and kids, and peace, without being constantly weary of might be attacks.
regardless of code during war, because when you get down to it, its you vs the other guy.
gaoth88 2 weeks ago
I like how they are using 300 as an actual fact, in reality there were about 3000 Spartans, and some 1000 supporting units.
Still impressive against a army in the tens of thousands though
ljp200 2 weeks ago
@ljp200 it was a detachment of 300 spartans with 7500(give or take) other greeks. leonidas then had the greeks retreat because he knew it was a suicide mission. the rest of the spartan army and the other greeks then repelled the weakened persians after the 300 were slaughtered at the hot gates
CenturionofRome72 2 weeks ago
SPARTAN WARRIORS - THE BEST IN THE WORLD
MrElNuKe 2 weeks ago
@MrElNuKe Tell that to Rome.
1169Timothy 1 week ago
HELLAS HELLAS HELLAS HELLAS HELLAS HELLAS HELLAS HELLAS
MrElNuKe 2 weeks ago
Pankration the Godfather of Martial arts & the grandfather of Jujitsu & Boxing! Great video.
infokemp 3 weeks ago 2
Sparta shows the paradoxical effect of militarism taken to an extreme actually undermines a cultures military effectiveness & ability to reproduce - the point of militarism is therefore defeated in both Sparta's case & the case of the Japanese use of Bushido in ww2 as a motivating factor for resisting colonisation - Sparta was conquered by the Stoic & Epicurean rationality of Rome's legions & the Japanese by the Anglo-Saxon powers which inherited Western Rationalism from Rome.
infokemp 3 weeks ago
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lol i used to do samurai jujitsu , until i saw this..
gonefishingstudios 3 weeks ago
that British guy bobs his head alot
hulksmashize 3 weeks ago
These guys acting and reenacting are scary... but imagine how intense a real Spartan soldier would be...
FoxhoundMoses 1 month ago
They should make one about Cossacks! They were very skilled warriors, on ground and horse)
DJEDzTV 2 months ago
Yea i could get stabbed, skull smashed in, nothing much, but the shield, it rose up hit me in the mouth, could've lost a tooth ! You gotta be careful what your doin ! Game over dude, there's no coming back from that.
Deathcab47 2 months ago
What's it like to get thrown around like a rag doll I wonder?
Titanwriter 2 months ago
Nobody likes war after living one.......... there is no honor just death
errorlucifer 2 months ago
close high guards were not used before the modern invention of gloves even a brief study of the evolution of british boxing (our boxing, not greek, no greek martial art ever survied past ur basic vase) used a low guard to parry keeping ur hand up will cause them to slam against ur face constantly and there are more gaps to exploit in a high guard if there are no gloves in use. this is pankratios watch?v=jx7Zb3z8RQs not that watered down MMA
kaindrg 2 months ago
300 thousand Persians my ass. Only 11 thousand ethnic Persians and 10-15 thousand Greek allies ever engaged at Plataea.
migkillerphantom 3 months ago
@migkillerphantom
a few ethnic Persians, but a lot of other nations including Skythians, Indians, Egyptians, Phoenicans, etc
Koryvantes 3 months ago
@Koryvantes Erm, no. Only the ethnic Persians ever engaged at Platatea, as well as the Thebans. The rest of the army didn't make it, or was stopped by the rather unloyal Artabanus. Thus the Greeks had a numerical advantage. Although there wasn't that much difference to begin with, only 40 thousand infantry at the most on the Persian side, as well as some cavalry which didn't really make a difference.
migkillerphantom 2 months ago
@migkillerphantom
Greek forces were extremely lucky in Platea. Massistios, the natural military leader of the Persian army, was killed in a skirmish with Athenian infantry before the main battle.
After this Persian Army did not have a high caliber leader to act coherent in he battle field
Also my belief is that Spartans had very good Intelligence Services that played important role in the battle
Koryvantes 2 months ago
@Koryvantes Lol, no, Masistos was a minor cavalry officer. Mardonius was the commander in chief, and he died fighting the Spartans... Taking an arrow to the eye.
migkillerphantom 2 months ago
@migkillerphantom
Mardonios proved to be not competent leader... Massistios loss was key to the battle evolution, according to our understanding
Koryvantes 2 months ago
@Koryvantes LOL wtf... Mašasta was a CAVALRY commander. He probably held little more than the rank of HAZARAPATISH. Mardaniya was a SATRAP. That's like 10 ranks higher.
Besides, the cavalry didn't really matter, since the Spartans anchored their flanks. What could've won the empire the battle would be Artaban arriving with the center, which he didn't. Had he, the armies would be equal in size, more or less, and the Persian's overall superiority would've defeated the disorganized Greeks.
migkillerphantom 2 months ago
@migkillerphantom
Most possibly, but this never happened.
I told you before that the Greek Cities Alliance army was extremely lucky in this battle. Basically outnumbered without water in a flat land without obstacles.
But same story repeats in all major battles between Achaemenid Empire and Greeks till the end of the Achaemenid Empire. Is this a coincidence?
Koryvantes 2 months ago
@Koryvantes LOLWUT? Have you forgotten Thymbra, the conquest of Ionia, the first Lydian/Ionian revolt, the conquest of Egypt, the second Ionian revolt, the Athenian campaign in Egypt, the revolt of Cyprus, the campaigns of Ariobarzanes?
Also, Plataea was advantageous to the Greeks - they held the high ground, their flanks were secure, and they were better supplied than their enemies. Counting the light troops they also had the numerical advantage.
migkillerphantom 2 months ago
@migkillerphantom
all these and a couple of minor battles (Granikos, Issos, Gavgamila) till Persepolis flames and ashes reached the skies
again it seems you do not know the geography of Platea... I suggest to visit and then understand better...
Persians should have better military academies, it is a pity
Koryvantes 2 months ago
@Koryvantes As if Greeks had military academies. You probably didn't catch my point - which is that Greeks were defeated by Persians at least as many times as the other way around.
Regarding Plataea - the Persians were encamped in a gradient plain before the river, the Greeks were encamped on a steeper slope. The Spartan's flanks were also guarded by a rocky formation.
migkillerphantom 2 months ago
@migkillerphantom
for sure Persians did have many victories against Greeks. Also think that their losses in Plataea and Salamina were not and important issue for them. They barely mention in their official documents.
Koryvantes 2 months ago
@Koryvantes Indeed, kinda like the Roman failure to conquer Germania. Embarrassing? Yes. Catastrophic? Not even close.
migkillerphantom 2 months ago
who is going to mess with dimitris..??this man is scary..!!
spymagneto 3 months ago 19
@spymagneto straight beast
AlchemistiK1 2 months ago
@spymagneto Chuck Norris.
Titanwriter 2 months ago
the best warriors ever will always be the mongols.
SxejokeR 3 months ago
spartans...... great warriors but at the end the inteligence always wins
SxejokeR 3 months ago
@SxejokeR I agree Spartans were intelligent fighters that why they win.
LoneMyth 3 months ago
@LoneMyth i didn't say the spartans were inteligent, what i tried to say is that spartans, in the end, lost against inteligence (Athens).
SxejokeR 3 months ago
@SxejokeR That why you are not intelligent. If you read on your history Spartan beaten Athens
The only reason Sparta lost as a state because of an Earthquake that killed most of the population and Thebans.
Look up battle of Leuktra
That brought the end of Sparta not Athens. I have the documentary in my Channel watch it.
LoneMyth 3 months ago
spartans, roman legions, vikings, samurais, templar knights were the best warriors
elasolezito 3 months ago 17
@elasolezito
Can't arguee mate
Haddockxyz300 3 months ago
@elasolezito What about the Terracotta Warriors?
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@DragonOfQin no, samurai were the best in the east, knights should be the first they are underrated
elasolezito 2 months ago
@elasolezito But Samurais lost to Ming warriors.... so how are they the best?
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@DragonOfQin from the culture and from how many years they existed, to what they've done. That dynasty doesnt have something remarkable to me, all the history of china is great though...
elasolezito 2 months ago
@elasolezito well they fought for 300 years and unified China but after the Dynasty emperor was de-throned, the terracotta army was gone. However, their legacy remains in clay.
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@DragonOfQin sure, i didnt say the opposite, it just the feudal Japan lasted 1185 - 1868
elasolezito 2 months ago
@elasolezito Terracotta Army united all of China. It is equivalent to Sparta uniting all of Greece through war.
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@DragonOfQin ...much more Alexander the Great unite Greek-cities, cause Sparta was in war with Athens...
wasnt The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor movie about Terracota army ? also the last dynasty in china was Qing Dynasty
elasolezito 2 months ago
@elasolezito Yeah! The Mummy of the Dragon Emperor movie was about the Terracotta Army. So the Terracotta Army was very similar to the Macedonian army then. Ironically both empires were fueled by agriculture as well. The Terracotta Army was under Qin Dynasty. Qing Dynasty with a G at the end was the last dynasty of China which ended 1912. Qin ended 206BC.
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@DragonOfQin we got it then !
elasolezito 2 months ago
@elasolezito All of them were good warriors but not like spartans, spartans were trained from the age of 7 years old to be the best of the best. Not only with weapons but in pankration (modern MMA) too. They were the best of the best but they were very few in numbers, one against one spartans were unbeatable
passariskwstas 2 months ago
@passariskwstas The Spartans were defeated at Sphacteria in 425 BC by the Athenians, 292 Spartans agreeing to surrender and being taken prisoner a 11,000 strong Spartan army was destroyed at Leuctra in 371 BC by the Thebans (whose army was only 6000 men) Thermopylae,( the 300 / 8000 lol ) remember that the Spartans did LOSE that battle spartans worked hard to build this myth of their own invincibility
evilscotsmin 2 months ago
@evilscotsmin Yeah, but in different conditions. In the same conditions and tactics with the same numbers Sparans were the best warriors in ancient world. Of course Athenians and Thebans were good warriors too because all of them were Greeks and had the same warrior training and armor. In a battle strategy own a big part too, but in one against one spartans were the best ...
passariskwstas 2 months ago
@passariskwstas
ok...
GREEK HOPLITES is the best warriors, When they united, nothing can destroy them
sparta,athens,corith,thebes, ´´greeks`` all of them is the best warriors, the hoplite phalanx is one of the best war machine of the ancient world
sedoskovelha123 1 month ago
@elasolezito i like roman legion most, but samurai is perfect warrior...
NexusCool1 1 month ago
Sparta and Japan. The two best fucking warrior states of all time. Devoted to war alone.
stranglechord 3 months ago
spartans and romans..my favorite races
Andrey0153 4 months ago
spartans and romans..my favorite races
Andrey0153 4 months ago
who gives a fuck what the presenter is? so u were a green beret what the fuck does tat have to do with spartan armies???????????? over indulgent yank wanker!!!!! was looking forward to watching this until he spoke about himself now im avoiding these!!!!!
philhindu29 4 months ago
get a friggen grip dude,and go take your 'yank' comment and shove it up your limey ass!
keithehlert 3 months ago
That is one scary big greek dude! Looks like Titus Pullo from HBO Rome!
Gooseman2k2 4 months ago
*All* ancient societies let "weak" (i.e. handicapped) babies die - they simply didn't have the resources to look after non-productive members of society. So, yes, Spartans did it, but so did everyone else.
crapatev 5 months ago
2:30 its rugby extreem! D: i broke my ribs in rugby XD
civcity2 5 months ago
SPARTANS DIDNT KILL WEAK INFANTS! NO HUMAN BONES HAVE BEEN FOUND IN SUCH PIT NEAR SPARTA...
FILTHY LIARS!!
bergthorn 5 months ago
THIS IS SPARTA
The12GODS 5 months ago
Wow I wonder if the sparta won every other event in the olympic games
badpanda84 6 months ago
@badpanda84 They won a lot of events in the olympics.
Heliospathe 6 months ago
NO SPARTANS
zerker12568901 8 months ago
I LOLD at the comment about democratic republic in Athens :D
YuriPRIMEpoland 8 months ago
Loving the authentic designs on the shields. I think the RSII developers used the designs from this program lol.
jimthehappymonkey1 8 months ago
these people raped each other since the age of seven, greeks!!! murdering gays.
cuzcatlan36 8 months ago
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JESUSISGREATEST 8 months ago
Oddly enough the Spartan League was more democratic than the Delian League.
Willinthehall 9 months ago
πολύ ωραίο!!!
Live2Break 9 months ago
that so, stratigos?! then why is there so many athenian scripts documenting how much land or money or slaves a man must own to be entitled a vote in the athens?! athens is the homeland of democracy but according to both socrates and plato only approximately 10% of the male popultation was eligable to vote, and only if they could fund a millitary unit!
Tarantio1983 9 months ago
@Tarantio1983 What scripts you talk about? Where did you read that? Do you really talk about 5th and 4th century B.C.? First of all owning a slave in Athens was already a huge luxury. Having 2 slaves meant you were already mid-upper class. Most slaves were actually state-owned slaves and worked pretty much as civil servants (eg. the 100% of policemen were made out of slave archers). There was no law stating that landless and poor could not vote, where did you come up with?
GPlinthon 9 months ago
@Tarantio1983 On the opposite, there were even benefits for those that served in public positions since half the citizens could not otherwise take up a public position and leave their full-time professional occupation, they simply did not have that luxury - that is how those laws were brought to action to resolve that.
And citizens did not fund a military unit (!!!!!). They were THEMSELVES the military units. Rich in cavalry, middle class in hoplites, poor in light infantry & archers
GPlinthon 9 months ago
πολυ καλο μακαρι να δουμε και αλλα βιντεο μπραβο και παλι
aenaosdorieas 9 months ago
as to the shield being a weapon, i think most cultures that shields used them offensively as well as defensively - look @ the nordic culture, there's reports in the edic-sagas that shields were used as a knuckle-dusters to batter an enemy!
athens wasn't truly democratic, only approximately 10% of the population culd vote - these being rich men of a certain age!
also only athenian men culd b sporting & own property, but sparta allowed women to own property and partake in sporting activity!
Tarantio1983 10 months ago
@Tarantio1983 You are wrong.Political rights had nothing to do with the financial status of the men.Check wikipedia and βικιπαίδεια about Athenian democracy or Αθηναική δημοκρατία.About the women you are right..Sparta respected their women much more than other cities states.
Stratigoz 9 months ago
y does this guy put so much focus on shields? a shield's only so good for forcing ur opponent to move how u want, but a push and shove tactic won't win a battle ... what will is using either a spear or sword to attack the man! as to the greek martial arts might be the earliest recorded martial arts in the western world but i'm fairly possitive that there might have been stuff before that, however does the first written record of something mean that that account is the 'origional' instance of it?
Tarantio1983 10 months ago
@Tarantio1983 the Spartans used it also to slam into their opponents head,neck or throat. the shield was a great weapon for the Spartans. in the phalanx they pushed their shields towards their enemies. with the spear they stabbed from underneath the shield, above the shield nobody saw it coming because the spartan shield blocked their vision almost completely. their shield was incrediby strong even in recent tests there is no melee weapon that could crush the Spartan shield.
dylan070able 9 months ago
The battle had 300 Spartans teamed up with a few thousand other guys.
Titanwriter 10 months ago
@Titanwriter including the athenian forces, who were holding the persian forces at sea!
Tarantio1983 10 months ago
ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ ΥΠΟΤΙΤΛΟΙ;
AGORELITSA 1 year ago
Spartans didn’t kill the weak babes.
This is lies.
Officially this is not truth because they couldn’t find Evidence to prove it. So the official is that they didn’t kill the young babes….
BraveManNewWorld 1 year ago 7
@BraveManNewWorld Greek historian Plutarch said, that weak or deflected babies were killed by starvation or have been thrown from the cliff. Some of them were made slaves for Spartans.
Morr1992 4 months ago
@Morr1992... and Herodotos said that some gods were import from egypt. What that means? That he was talling the truth? Of course not, because the Egyptian say a story about Greeks which have this gods around 12000b.c. So the Egyptian, say that Herodotos is laying.
Look man, research happen on places and no bones found... nothing. So theory busted
BraveManNewWorld 4 months ago
@BraveManNewWorld Well, our entire ancient history is based on what historians told us. We don't havy proof for half of our history, if not more. I will give it another look though. Maybe they weren't thrown off the cliff, but rather starved to death? Or as documentary says: left for wild animals.
Morr1992 4 months ago
@BraveManNewWorld Yep, spartans gave everyone a chance. Weaklings perished soon after birth through hard regime, maintained even to the youngest, in a spartan homes.
VasilyKiryanov 4 months ago
@BraveManNewWorld After 300 came out I set out to find out how true the story was, I learned alot from many sources. In every source I found they almost always mentioned that the ancient spartans inspected the babies and those with defect (I assume too premature, or with physical deformity) were left in the mountains. If you're gonna claim something atleast prove it!
ataraxic89 4 months ago
@ataraxic89 ... Give the book name and what number of line or what chapter. IF you say that you read that, then you have to give me the source of ancient book, so i can check it. ANCIENT BOOK, not book that was writen after or today...
BraveManNewWorld 4 months ago
@BraveManNewWorld Okay, no problem. Because unlike you I can use the internet. Look up plutarch's "life of lycurgus" About halfway through (my source doesnt have a page number) he clearly says that they would take the baby to the elders and if they were lacking they would leave them at a sacred chasm. And whats with this baseless history denial? Are you greek and cant admit they did that back then or are you just crazy?
ataraxic89 4 months ago
@ataraxic89 .. UNLIKE you i have the book.... so Lycurgus lived around 800b.c. Ploutarch live 800 years after... So i will NOT take what Ploutarch said for truth... You must understand that the life was no different than the today. We have different opinions, and diferrent historical referrence for a lot of things. That which are very important is the description of the heliocentric system in Timeus, that is something which nobody can tell it not the truth, because the description is the prove.
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@ataraxic89 ..2) I am trying to say, it is the same thing as what some peoples say, that the ancient greeks were gay.... because when they speak for love Έρως, they analyse all kind... anyway knowledge is power. If you ask me, if they have done something like that, i will anwser you NO, why? because i know, in order to have so many ideals, you can from the other way killing babes. You can NOT be both....
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@ataraxic89 3)... So... is spartans killing the weak babes? NO.... you say Yes? Prove it with arheology. I will then accept it. I will also accept it if he have 5 differrent reference... and if that was happen, be sure that Plato or Aristotle will mention it in their books.... so
BraveManNewWorld 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Koryvantes
@BraveManNewWorld no, i think you're just a jackass. you'll never accept what I say so whats the point. gtfo
ataraxic89 4 months ago
@ataraxic89 ... Man i think i was clear... in order to say that this is truth, without archeological evidence, you need at least 4 or 5 differrent source. We have over 1500 books, ancient books, and this is mention in one? If that had happen, be sure that you will today find it at least from 10 different author.
ex.
In order to know that socrates really exist and is not fiction, we have crossed from a lot of ancient author, his existance. So we know, that socrates exist as person.
BraveManNewWorld 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Koryvantes
@ataraxic89 ... B) You can't speak for those importans issues by guessing.... you need evidence to support this theory. You can't say i am a kiler, without evidence to prove it.... it's not proper. SO if in something you don't have evidence you don't say it.... this is the right way
BraveManNewWorld 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Koryvantes
@BraveManNewWorld
well either I believe u or the history guy who most likely studied his shit.... im goin witht the history guy
Messiahs 3 months ago
Ρε φιλε μου.............. οι Σπαρτιατες δεν σκοτωναν τα αδυναμα μωρα.... Αυτα ολα ειναι μαλ...ες. Μετα απο ερευνες που εγιναν, δεν βρεθηκαν κοκκαλα κ.τ.λ. και ετσι επισημως αυτη η εκδοχη δεν ισχυει πλεον.....
Διορθωσε το στο 4:50 του βιντεο. Κανε μια υποσημειωση στα Αγγλικα να μην νομιζουν οτι οι Σπαρτιατες σκοτωναν τα αδυναμα μωρα.
Πω πω ρε παιδια, ποση προπαγανδα εναντιον των Ελληνων;;;
Βασικα δεν βρηκαν κανενα στοιχειο για να υποστηριξουν αυτο το θεμα. Ειναι καθαρα θεμα προπαγανδας
BraveManNewWorld 1 year ago 10
@BraveManNewWorld The Spartans did not kill weak babies .... This is no hair ... s. After research has found no bones, etc. and so formally this version no longer valid .....
Correction at 4:50 of the video. Make a footnote in English do not think the Spartans kill weak babies.
Wow guys, how much propaganda against the Greeks???
Actually found no evidence to support this issue. It is purely propaganda
JESUSISGREATEST 11 months ago
@JESUSISGREATEST what did you expect from a program narrated by just an American solider, it's not like he is an historian or an archeologist
MartianSanta 11 months ago
what language are these people writing in?
haunteddrifter 1 year ago
@haunteddrifter ... Greek !!!
BraveManNewWorld 1 year ago
@BraveManNewWorld well i got that much, but it's not exactly like what i've learned in college.
haunteddrifter 1 year ago
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BraveManNewWorld 1 year ago
@haunteddrifter ... Some greeks write on internet with english character but you can read it in greek language.
Imagine My friend... which other nation write his language different, from their books on the internet?
Understand what we greeks deal with... Now academy of Athens make steps, so that greeks people stop write with latin characters on the internet.
Likely not all greeks write like that...
BraveManNewWorld 1 year ago
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BraveManNewWorld 1 year ago
Πραγματικά άψογη παραγωγή
drakontas1 1 year ago
βλέπω τη σειρά και χάρηκα που αφιέρωσε ο τύπος επεισόδειο στους απόλυτους πολεμιστές.τέλεια δουλειά της ομάδας και λυπάμαι που δίνουν μικρή βάση πλέον στη μάχη δίχως πυρομαχικά στις Ενοπλες δυνάμεις μας..λίγο kick boxing και λογχομαχία συμβολική δεν βοηθάνε πολυ σε μια κακη στιγμή.Ανάλογη(σχετικα) εκπαιδευση και σκεπτικό εχουν οι Gurkhas με όπλο αναλογο της κοπίδας το kukri η kukuri( εκπληκτική η ομοιοτητα με την κοπίδα)
anestischatzibeis 1 year ago
@anestischatzibeis ακριβώς, οι ισραηλινοι είναι χαζοί με το κράβ μαγκά που αναπτύξανε ειδικά για τον στρατό τους;
Kitrinomavro 10 months ago
It has to be made clear here in case of any misunderstanding (and with the utmost respect to the colossus called Paul Cartledge-I understand there's not enough time for him to explain this properly); The Greeks fighting on Persian side were mainly Macedonians & Thessalians who were either fed up with Athens Sparta & other city states 4 continuously bullying them, or had their cities already raised or out of fear surrendered. King Xerxes added them in his army while descending in south Greece
Yiannis2112 1 year ago
paidia esas prepei na sas paroun sto strato na ekpaideuetai tis eidikes dunameis! xaramizeste alliws......
dmsxxx 1 year ago
Just as a reminder,the Romans NEVER fought an hoplite phalanx,they fought against macedonian-styled phalanxes.The hoplites were much better armed,armoured and trained for hand-to-hand combat than the phalangites,but as a tactical formation,the macedonian phalanx was much more effective because of the sarissa and the massive wall of pikes that it created.
chrisgr2008 1 year ago
@chrisgr2008 The use of sarissas and heavy cavalry (which did not exist in Greek city state armies) and the genius of Philip and Alexander won the day for the Macedonians at Chaeronea and made the hoplitic phalanx obsolete.By the time Romans started fighting the Hellenistic armies,there were no hoplites anymore.
chrisgr2008 1 year ago
@chrisgr2008 Greek Cavalary used the Xiston... its another type of spear.. and Greek Marines used the "naumachon Dory" ...Till Alexanders death Hoplites used as Ekdromoi like Ipaspites... Hellenistic Phalanx during Alexander was the best formation cuz the phallagists knew how to use their swords (like classic phalanx) after Alexanders death we didnt... thats why Romans Conquer Greeks , no-flat terrain + no skills on sword = defeat
SpnOptimus2011 1 year ago
Watched this documentary at school haha. A bit cheesy, but good. It was a nice documentary with very few accuracy flaws.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
Sinexiste etsi! Eutixws merikoi kratane "thermopyles" akomi kai simera pou ta protipa ta dinoun ta MME. Tha ithela poli i katagogi m na einai ap tin Sparti alla kai i Korinthos kali einai :) vgalame kalous pezonautes sta arxaia xronia ...
SpnOptimus2011 1 year ago
This is a good show, not bad for yankee history :P
solomonkain 1 year ago
Too bad it doesn't work all that well. Peltastas, light infantry, once destroyed a Spartan regiment.
xhagast 1 year ago
@xhagast "once" is the key word in your statement. "once" does not negate the time-tested effectiveness of the phalanx. the phalanx armies of archaic and classical greece were the most effective fighting units of the time. a phalanx army, when used properly (the campaigns of Alexander, for example) could dominate the battlefield. they were still no match for the roman legion, but thats also heavy infantry. point is, phalanxes usually defeated their lightly-armed opponents
IRA166 1 year ago
@IRA166 The phalanx was always a magnificent formation. But it was vulnerable in the flanks and the rear. The moment the Persians had surrounded Leonidas he was done for. He was killed by ARROWS. They didn't even need to send more infantry to hit him in the back. The Roman phalanx was nowhere near as inflexible and heavy and at Canae Hannibal slaughtered it as soon as he was able to get at its flanks.
xhagast 1 year ago
@xhagast the legions that hannibal slaughtered at cannae were different from the phalanxes of greece. the greeks carried long spears and the legionaries carried two pila for throwing and did most of their combat with the gladius. the phalanxes only resorted to using their swords when their spears were broken. and any formation will be crushed if it's flanks and rear are surrounded. also, the troops hannibal used to flank the romans at cannae were his african heavy infantry & cavalry
IRA166 1 year ago
@xhagast we're both making valid points. i just don't really agree with your initial comment that the phalanx "doesn't work all that well." light infantry can certainly defeat heavy infantry if it can get around its flanks, but it takes a good general and a bit of luck for that to happen.
IRA166 1 year ago
@IRA166 The thing is that Schappert's enthusiasm bothers me a bit. He was always very impressed with everything. Maybe he was right to be. Maybe his being a soldier, tough as nails but used to modern weapons, makes the surprisingly sophisticated and effective old-time techniques impress him. But it still bothers me a bit. Makes him look a bit kissass.
Problably it is just me.
xhagast 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Terry, you are the biggest tool ever.
gbsharer 1 year ago
Terry, you are the biggest tool, ever.
gbsharer 1 year ago
so why exactly did they replace these kinds of shows with shit like ice road truckers?
IcyScythe 1 year ago
250,000 men actually
cyanidepill1 1 year ago
Τη συγκεκριμενη σειρα τιν εβλεπα.Δεν ξερω ομως αν εδειξαν το συγκεκριμενο επεισοδιο.
trelagiatonari 1 year ago
Ωραιο ντουμαντερ και πολυ ωραια σειρα.Το συγκεκριμενο επεισοδειο παιχτικε εδω??
trelagiatonari 1 year ago
@trelagiatonari απο οτι ακουσαμε το εδειξε η NET και η Nova
Koryvantes 1 year ago
@trelagiatonari nai nai polu wraio... eidika ekei pou leei oti h Ellada den htan ena e8nos ...
wainspoten 6 months ago
@wainspoten giati esy ti emathes sto sxoleio oti htan ena ethnos tote h poleis-krath? h mipws oti xekinousan polemous gia th plaka tous kai den htan lougkres sa tous shmerinous koloneoellhnes? o Pelloponhsiakos polemos sou leei kati?
Elspethknighterrant 4 months ago
@Elspethknighterrant - Palio homo-SAPIE, ma8e prwta ti 8a pei E8nos kai meta grapse tis mlkies sou ... anidee, milas kiolas ... to oti melh ths idias fylhs maxontai gia kuriarxika dikaiwmata kai zwtiko xwro se mia perioxh de shmainei oti den einai omoe8noi... palio probokatora an8ellhna ... traba diabase tous Persikous polemous prwta kai meta 3anapes mou gia ton Peloponhsiako polemo... blaxako , idia glwssa, idies kataboles, idioi 8eoi, idia idanika...
wainspoten 4 months ago
@Elspethknighterrant ... anti na les euxaristw pou eixes thn tuxh na gennh8eis se ena apo ta pio lampera shmeia tou planhth, me thn megaluterh prosfora sthn an8rwpothta, tolmas kai 3estomizeis ubreologies gia tous progonous mas... kati tetoioi san esena eixan thn tuxh tou Lykidh - se sumbouleuw na diabaseis ti epa8e kai giati, gia na pareis mia idea poso shmantika einai ta idanika pou uperaspizetai o ELLHN - mpas kai katalabeis ti shmainei na eisai An8rwpos kai oxi aplws zw-on
wainspoten 4 months ago
@wainspoten profanws eisai peiragmenos ston egkefalo kai de xereis gri apo istorika themata. Ti ibreologia xestomisa vre panivlaka? Kai oi progonoi mas einai nekroi opote de nomizw na paraxighthoun. Kai kati teleutaio prwta eisai anthrwpos kai meta Ellhnas. Ta ethnh,to misos kai oi diaxwristikes grammes einai oi prokatalipseis kai pseudaisthiseis pou epevale o anthrwpos kai sfazei to idio tou genos ana tous aiwnes. Oute ta zwa pou ipovivazeis de to kanoun auto, ilithie xrisaughth
Elspethknighterrant 4 months ago
@Elspethknighterrant - mpampouine ... poios e3umnhse ton An8rwpo ?? mhpws htan oi fasistes oi Ellhnes ?? autoi pou twra diateinesai pws spernoun misos anamesa stous an8rwpous ??? prin 3ekinhseis na diabaseis istoria, ma8e liga pragmatakia apo fusikes episthmes, an8rwpologia kai koinwniologia ... h Istoria einai aplws katagrafh gegonotwn ... h ermhneia tous exei ousia ... pi8ikaki ... se lupame giati zeis se megalh agnoia kai aparamilh blakeia ... poiotiko xarakthristiko tou ZWOU ...
wainspoten 4 months ago
@wainspoten mpampouine,pithikaki mpla mpla...arnoumai na mpw sth diadikasia na sou apanthsw giati kaneis sa paidaki kai meiwneis th syzhthsh.Tha sou pw mono auto.H istoria den einai aplh katagrafh gegonotwn.H istoria grafetai apo tous nikhtes.Oi megaloi Ellhnes tou xthes einai poly megaloi se sygkrish me tous ilithious tou shmera.Kaneis den amfisvhtei oti oi Ellhnes einai ena genos apla den eixan pragmatikh enothta mexri ton Mega Alexandro.Oloi to xeroun auto.Mathe na sizhtas anti na vrizeis
Elspethknighterrant 4 months ago
@trelagiatonari ki ekei pou leei oti: ''oloi 3eroume ton 8rylo me tous 300 Spartiates, alla egw 8elw na paw pio pera apo ton mytho kai na dw pws zousan...'' Mythos, 8rylos, do3asia, pisth ... de tou eipe kanenas tou teneke oti einai ISTORIA auto ?? alla kata ta alla gamato ''Documentary'' ouuuuu 3eftiles
wainspoten 6 months ago
@KHNSOR Ευχαριστουμε πολύ φιλε για τα καλα σου λόγια .Ειναι οπωςτα λές , το ντοκυμαντερ αν και πολύ αξιόλογο δεν ετυχε αναλογης προβολης απο τα ελληνικά Μ.Μ.Ε....
Koryvantes 1 year ago
The big bald dude just picked him up like a feather.
shariItachi 1 year ago
long live the spartans, true honor, heart of a lion. Perifanos.
spartan300911 1 year ago
@spartan300911 the Spartans were very good warriors but the best army of ancient Greece was not the Spartan army , but the Macedonian army :-)...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 Either way i have respect for both of them any who gives everything they got.
spartan300911 1 year ago
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spartan300911 1 year ago
i love this channel
warlight2333 1 year ago
Great Work Koryvantes... Congratulation!!!
Spartan Phalanx And Pagration For Ever!!!
sisman 1 year ago
perfect Koryvantes love you!!
santaca 1 year ago
special forces guy gets his ass kicked
juara86 1 year ago
we are the italian boys watch this Alleanza Ellenica® and on facebook we are the best
alejtex79 2 years ago
seriously, anytime theres a history document about warfare, bring terry in. hes a great host, with genuine interest & enthusiasm on & off camera. his enthusiasm fed 2 me too. dude should get more air time for anything related to ancient-medieval warfare.
republicansridiots 2 years ago 37
hugz04 you are very fucking right
romulus310 2 years ago
why the hell did they cancel this show??? same with fight quest, human weapon and deadliest warrior? these were the best shows. i think ancient warriors are the most interesting and cool thing to learn about. i guess some idiots dont agree and they ger all my favorite shows cancelled
hugz04drugz0 2 years ago 72
...and then force us all to watch shows like Pawn Stars and Axe Men... -_-
obiwan168 2 years ago
exactly dude!
hugz04drugz0 2 years ago
@hugz04drugz0 they didnt cancel deadliest warrior they have a new season comin out this summer
TheWildshadow 2 years ago