@mropinionful A few thousand years ago you would have been telling us to honor and abide by Zeus. Just like the Greek religion, in the future Christianity will be taught as myth. Lee strobel is a lawyer, which does not qualify him. You might as well believe in fairy tales.
People who don't believe in Dinosaurs really need to go to a Museum or read a good science book. There is so much evidence for Dinosaurs its unbelievable, why would you want to reject these magnificent animals that reigned for millions of years and have earned there place in history. Only an ignorant fool that has been mislead in some way would deny all the fossils of differing animals, plants, vertebrates, insects that were around when the mighty Dinosaurs ruled this planet.
@GLICKTON Brain washed by the church is more like it,these are the same kooks that believe in creationism over evolution.I bet a priest diddled this pathetic kid just one to many times during bible study sleepovers .
@THEFINALSOLUTION03 Hahahah, shush though, not supposed to talk about the Priests that gets brushed under the carpet because is is rife right through the church including the Vatican.
@THEFINALSOLUTION03 more accurate predictions than any other written manuscript in history. burden of proof is on the skeptics... Lee strobel The case for Christ
dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
soooo...... if god is creator he made dinosaurs first right? so why isnt there any reference in the bible to the first living creature rading the earth. not even 1 litle reference. and if he is perfect he has to for see a lot of things so he has forseen a meteor striking earth... and he let all of the dinosaurs die....
Eh? Wait. Dinosaurs aren't real? All those fossils are FAKE?!?!?! Oh no, what now? The hairy kid must be the second coming. He's the messiah. I have his gourd...
Typical American "Christians" they preach the "word" of "god" but still think its fine to use curse words hmmmmm the mind does boggle. Although for me, I don`t tell people I live by the Bible, like a lot of hypocritical "christians" do, therefore I can say and do what the fuck I want
Please tell me that this was staged... If you become physically agitated when someone challenges your beliefs, then your beliefs aren't sound. Pay attention to your inner-self. That split-second of self-doubt is your mind trying to wake you up. Listen to it.
People only become physically angry when they can't cope with the stimulus. Usually due to fear of the unknown.. That unknown is any worldly knowledge that is found outside of the theologic bubble. The kid is brainwashed. Help him.
For the life of me I can't understand why people think being a Christian means you're suppose to know everything.
Read Job 40:15-24 and tell me what the behemoth describes. It describes a dinosaur.
Google 'Gobekli Tempe', it is the oldest known man made structure on the planet. It has lots of carvings of animals. One of which looks identical to a stegosaurus. There are lots of drawings and carvings of dinosaurs through out history. :)
Hey atheists, im a Christian and trust me we are not like that hell i was obsessed with dinosaurs when i was a kid and dug up my entire backyard looking for fossiles and wanted to become a paleontogologist. So please dont judge us when you see dumbfucks we are not like that.
I love that adults can have imaginary friends too!!............ oh wait?... is that not called schizophrenia!?........ shit get the guy a doctor before he kills you in his sleep dude!!
well i look at death as a combination of evoulotion and reincarnation where as soon as u die u can be reborn because every second 3 people die 5 are born which leaves two empty vessels which either generate two new people or we all started out as single celled organisms and had to work are way up the latter untill we became monkeys after you die from your monkey form then u get to the final stage which is human and once again once ur human you always remain human goerge carlin has been reborn
Whenever a person mentions dinosaur to me I react like a seven year old kid and impersonate a t-rex, and dinosaurs are awesome because there is fossil evidence for them, also evidence also suggest from the fossil Archaeopteryx is the first fossil for feathers forming which does somewhat suggest that some dinosaurs did evolve into birds, whilst others would have most certainly would have gone extinct, also sometimes when people mention dinosaurs I love to mimic an eagle XD.
Come on! Everyone who's a christian knows the real reason the dinosaur's are extinct, they were all pagans. So god was like "Au contraire mon frere" (because, you know god's french) and blasted the little lizards with oh so many fire balls. So remember Christians on your way to church in your little sedan, that's pagan blood running your car. ha ha
This is my proof for God. The prophets predicted JESUS CHRIST first coming to the exact year 483 years before he came. The prophets predicted on what street christ would be born 700 years before he came. I know you athiest will say but people wrote the new testament to match the old. well than look at the new testament prophecies that are coming true today. rev 17 said the anti christ would sit with the harlot chruch in rome behold the pope and catholic church. JESUS predicted the NWO
@NeoVictorianX hahaha you cant even imagin how much more proof God gave us. he told us the roman empire would be divided into 10 kingdoms 1000 years before it happend. he told us a blasphemoues king who would exhault himself as high as christ would take over the nations of europe and so the pope made his entrance in the dark ages and did the blasphemoues things God said he would do, and if you study the scriptures more you will see the pope is satan chosen vessel used to bring NWO
@cuvinteleluitati You obviously don't know the history of the Bible and how it cam to be the book we read today. Its a twisted story book moulded to meet the requirements of the time each bit was written and re written. Think its sad that people waste their lives, get on with your life and enjoy it! We only have one and then it goes back to being what we were before we were born. If you want to be spiritual think of it as borrowing your body from the earth, you just give it back after 80 years.
@dsrtdawg1 I see truth every day my friend. I accept the truth doesn't change and can handle any form of investigation thrown at it. I know the truth will hold its own even after thousands of years of attack. I know the truth will reveal itself to us through nature and science. Please don't talk to me about ignorance. Every atheist needs to study a few words. Logic, Fact, Ignorance, Faith and last but not least Hypocrite. Lean the meaning of them. A lot of them describe the atheist.
@WombatGully3000 And yet religion has yet to provide any shred of evidence to support its claim, beyond personal feelings and individual witness.
Your comment about 'survived thousands of years of attack' is incorrect; it's only recently that people can speak against religion without fear of persecution (for the most part).
@pmodd The bible has been getting attacked for thousands of years this is a fact. When the old testament was written, they were being attacked. When the new testament was written they were getting attacked. There was a period in the church where it did not get attacked. All together the bible has been attacked for at least thousands of years. This is fact if you knew anything about history. Archeology proves bible history. Scientific facts in the bible are correct
@pmodd I mean every time the bible mentions something, people say it is a lie. The empire it the Hittites. City of Jericho. Names of people, names of towns. Kings from the Egyptians, Babylonians to the Persians. There has never been a discovery to go against the bible, the discoveries always confirm the bible story. If the bible was not a religious book it would be taught all over the world as factual history. I don't use personal feelings and individual witness. Another assumption.
@pmodd When there is a man, who has been an atheist his whole life. Lets say he is 40. At the age of 41 something remarkable happens to him. He says he experienced something beyond this world. You don't believe him. You need god to come down and smack you across the head to believe. I don't i accept i have faith, you need to start accepting you have faith in evolution because you too are believing in the unseen.
That being said, some Christians are nice people. BUT TO THE REST OF YOU ASSHOLES THAT TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON PEOPLE, GO SWALLOW A KNIFE!!!
I think Christians are the dumbest most ignorant pathetic excuses for human shit that the world has produced. No wonder Nazi's were Christian. And I'm not an atheist either. Just not stupid enough to believe in a man made religion designed to spread ignorance because ignorant masses are easy to control. Or believe the word of God is in a book that glorifies genocide and slavery in the name of a 100 foot invisible man in the sky. And, "Sarah Palin" need I say more?
@dsrtdawg1 You don't need to feel sorry for me my friend, i don't believe life came from some kind of soup. I believe life was created by an all powerful being. I am proud of this. I don't believe life to be an accidental random process, i believe life to have a purpose. Again i am proud of this. I believe man was created as a man and we are different to animals. Again very proud of this. Last but not least i believe in science, god created it. This is why science is against evolution
@WombatGully3000 The more you talk, the more ignorance you show. You confuse hypothesis with religion. This just illustrates how religion corrupts critical thinking. I realize you refuse to see the truth, repeatable, demonstrative proofs, therefore I've no choice but to wish you the best and hope you stop languishing in ignorance and pursue a real education at some point. Do it for your prodigy if not yourself. Sorry for big words, there is a character limit.
Don't worry, God put the fossils there to test your faith. If you are a young-earth creationist even despite fossil evidence, then you are a true believer and will go straight to heaven. You mustn't be tempted by common sense.
@JohnnyRazor69 watch this video...it explains how the same evidence can be looked at either way /watch?v=Mdk4MqNRqbo&list=FL9ad8T2vy3oS9ioYnAHeYGQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
@twistedDERVISHER Except that it would seem odd to me if God instructed Noah to leave all the dinosaurs. It's not like it was a bunch of strange and different creatures, they were all dinosaurs genetically. What's more, there is no place for any of the modern animals Noah would've had to take in the biosphere of the dinosaurs, and moreover, no more modern animals, or indeed humans, seem to have perished in the flood at the same time as the dinosaurs, or there'd be fossils.
@JohnnyRazor69 yea man first off i definitely don't claim to know all the answers. I love to learn about stuff like this and i encourage you to look into for yourself. Answers in Genesis is a great website that explains a lot of this stuff, just make sure you go into it with an open mind and heart. And it is my understanding (as limited as that is) that human fossils have been found. Oh and incase you didn't already know dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible in the book of Job. I hope this helps
@twistedDERVISHER Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
@Lordgaraj laugh it up buddy. I doubt you have read any of the topics or discussions on there and if you have then you mind certainly isn't open to see both sides. all evidence is viewed through a persons world view. and besides having a civilized topic or debate isn't accomplished by laughing at your opponent
@ReverendWyrm Thats exactly my point thank you for supporting me. Im honestly wondering were you trying to support me or was that a rebuttal, because the guy that is directed at was the one doing the ridiculing...not me
@twistedDERVISHER "Im honestly wondering were you trying to support me..." Not in the least if you propose any kind of hypothesis for the origin of the Universe or life that requires magic or controverts the vast amounts of scientific data that continues to be collected supporting an "old" earth. If you think it's reasonable that all human being are wicked deserving to be put to death or tortured for eternity if they failed to kiss god's ass than you deserve to be ridiculed.
@ReverendWyrm we are all wicked... christians too. christians are just forgivin... look at history. nothing good. this war that war... the bible predicts the false prophet 550 yrs before muhammed fulfilled it....
@mropinionful That's the problem. The faithful believe they are already forgiven, and therefore can treat other people in whatever terrible manner they wish. They don't worry about being good people. Why would you if you are forgiven already for whatever you do? After all, the bible says clearly all you have to do to get into heaven is believe. I does not have a requirement for one to be a good person, just a blind faith believer is good enough for jesus. Not good enough for me though.
@InteGrayting2 believe and REPENT. many don't worry bout trying to be good people thats true. the inquisition for instance... If the leaders of the church in that time had read the bible they would hav seen "he without sin can cast the 1rst stone" and there would have been no inquisition. jesus coming to earth was gods way of proving that he, as a human, was able to do what no other could... fulfill the law with perfection. An its not blind faith. quite the opposite.
@mropinionful The very definition of blind faith is believing is anything without evidence. There is absolutely no factual evidence to support the claim of any supreme being. It's not a case of man denying a god. It is simply a case of man denying another man's claims of a god without evidence. That has no bearing on me being a good person, because I know that I am. That is what matters, not believing in the unbelievable. I have found peace, and happiness without faith.
@InteGrayting2 Lee strobel "the case for christ" thats evidence. he originally was gonna write a book disproving god and swung the other way... read it.
@mropinionful Not interested. You can't disprove god, and to even try to shows some kind of mental defect. I would never set out to prove fairies are not real. If there was concrete proof of god we would all know about it, and we would all believe. Every atheist in the world simply requires actual proof. If you had proof and walked up to any true atheist and showed it to them, they would simply say wow, and then believe. They would believe because there would be actual reason to.
@InteGrayting2 I give you actual proof and you say not interested. you require actual proof? case for christ by lee strobel. im not gonna read it for you, an im not gonna write the 300 page book on utube.. you want to deny any proof that comes your way it seems like. you cant refuse to look at the sky just to deny its blue... well you can but its self-censorship. REFUSAL to look at the proof is on you. Its there if you wanna look. Look and See if the sky is blue or not.
@mropinionful It's not that. Please don't misunderstand me. I have never, is 7 years of hard study have found anything that is actual evidence. People have offered me hundreds of books, articles, personal testimony and so on. Alright, I'll check it out. As a skeptic, I am just tired of what people think is evidence, and I apologize for just dismissing your suggestion. I will not delete our exchange so I can report what I find. Thanks
@InteGrayting2 I'm Agnostic because I have no faith for the concept of infinity. Atheists are just as pathetic as creationists. Your all too scared to say "I don't know".
@InteGrayting2 If you resist the devil he will flee from you. then the "blind" faith is over time givin sight...if you resist the holy spirit he will flee as well an you dont get the insight that comes only from being close to Him...
@mropinionful I do not subscribe to a any faith. When a serial killer can repent on his deathbed and go to heaven, and a person of great deeds who never knew of god goes to hell, I could never join, support, or believe in a religion that only requires belief and not deeds.
@InteGrayting2 noone has great deeds. all are tainted. the serial killer may go to heaven, but still will be punished... All are judged on everything we say or do, good or bad. but yes, humanity as a whole are evil creatures, not one of us is worthy.
@mropinionful Do you even know how insulting that is? My daughter who is just a child has never hurt anyone, but according to you she is filthy, and evil? Now more than ever I stand by my assessment of faith. They trick us into believing we are all born evil,a nd the only salvation is to believe without proof. Funny....all of the world's main religions say that. What if mormonism is the only right one. Or islam? Or catholicism? None of them have proof, all have the same claim.
@InteGrayting2 the bible says to try to have faith like the little children. your daughter has the capacity (as we all ) for evil. temptation. All the religions you listed are all based on the same thing. even Islam. the koran (written 550 yrs after the bible) talks of moses, abraham, issac, ishmael, and jesus. muslims believe jesus will return to tell christians to worship allah. the bible talks of the false prophet. muhammed fulfilled that. all based on boks by moses.
@InteGrayting2 mormans added to the bible (says a spirit led joseph smith) and catholics are christians with 9 extra books in the bible. jesus had no capacity for evil. It shows His greatness, to be able to follow his own law.(wihch no other human is able to do-ANYONE) I gave you proof; you chose to ignore it. Lee strobel. untill you read it, you cannot say its not proof.....
@ReverendWyrm and that was not an "unintelligible proposition" I was stating my opinion. I think its a good website with reliable sources written by credible scientist, physicists, mathematicians, and the list goes on. So don't put quotes that done make sense just to look smart please. Next time do a little more in depth research instead of searching google for quotes. Thanks have a nice day.
@twistedDERVISHER "I think its a good website with reliable sources..." Do a little deeper research mate. Answers in Genesis is a joke, founded by creationist Ken Ham. His own head "scientists" at his creationist "museum" have gone on record as saying that there was evidence in unquestionable contention with the bible they would have to ignore it in favour of the bible. That still sound reliable to you?
Nope. Evidence is the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. A fact is a thing that is indisputably the case. Both from the dictionary. Don't try to claim evidence unless you have met the definition of the term. Evidence is not subjective. I really don't care if you're arguing for or against theists. Don't misuse the term. There is neither evidence for or against the existence of gods.
@scottyfbomb I didn't misuse any term. You aren't even staying in context of the argument. We weren't talking about the existence of God, or at least I wasn't. I was stating how evidence can be viewed differently. Just like in a court case if hair is found at a crime scene, it doesn't automatically mean the owner of the hair is the killer. It takes interpretation. Just because you have evidence, it doesn't mean you know exactly what the evidence is pointing too. Think logically please
Christian friend said to me: "You don't have to dumb-down to be a Christian..."
So what do you call it? Deliberate denial of factual understanding? Self-imposed naivety?
Auto-fear infatuation? Infantile guilt attribution? Desire of the Atmospheric Big Daddy? How about: Avoidance of personal responsibility? Moral recipe seeking? Flock mentality?
Dinosaurs weren't real? The devil hid all those fossils deep in the earth to fool us. Poor kid, it's almost child abuse to let your kid be this ignorant.
hahaha Religion was only created because Humans are the only species aware of their own mortality and it comforts them to think that there will be something else after death! Nothing more!
@jonny96 "it comforts them......." Who? Are you saying, in all complete honesty, that you have somehow drawn a conclusion from somewhere that EVERY person that has a religion only does so because it comforts them to think that there will be something else after death and nothin more?
I'd be really interested to know exactly how you managed to come to that conclusion?There are literally BILLIONS of people that believe in the after life. Are you speaking for all of them? Amazing !!
If you haven't seen yet, check out the "Through the wormhole" series, the first episode titled "Is there a creator?"... Dr. Michael Persinger talks specifically about what you just mentioned!
I'm an atheist who I disapproves of secretly filming people, calling them names then broadcasting it on the Internet. Congratulations on being a bullying prick.
Wow, look what we have here... Yet another complete drain on society, who can't even count, but of course no so much better than accomplished scientists and intellectuals in academia. No evidence for God, but we know that is true, because I read about it or my parents told me so.. While an overwhelming amount of physical evidence that screams out the existence of dinosaurs, which goes far beyond just bones, is so obviously just a work of fiction/imagination. Bravo, bravo!!! Now go take a bath...
I like it how atheists lie through their teeth. They always say religious people are against science it is one of the biggest lies out there. All religious people love science because it is a way they can get closer to the creator. All the greatest scientist's in the world believed in a creator. Why do you people lie? All of the greatest minds on earth have believed in a creator. So many of today scientist's still believe in a creator. Liars, Hypocrites. Children. Wake up!
The problem is most evolutionist's have already made up their minds. They already deny the existence of god and when researching they have this conclusion. Everything they find, they try and disprove god instead or proving god. This is why the evolutionist will never see god. If you decide to go into this research with an open mind, thinking to yourself ok either way could be true, you will come out believing in a creator as many atheists have done. Try it unless your to scared.
@WombatGully3000 You also refuse to explain how evolution can be false when all antibiotics rely on evolutionary science, are you claiming that antibiotics don't exist? Because you keep claiming that these scientists have no proof of anything they believe.
@Scorpionloses You don't answer a single one of my question and call me a liar because i won't answer yours? You hypocrite, as i said before you remind of the religious hypocrites, the early catholic church. You hypocrite!!! We can still be friends though its ok. Understand why i am not answering anything for you, understand it far out even a kid would understand why. Evolution is not science, science proves evolution to be false.
@Scorpionloses Yes i refuse to waste my time answering your questions because your mind is already blocked off. If you prove to me your not a time waster i would consider answering your questions. You can continue to think low of me, i don't care. You can continue to think i am stupid, i am 8 or 9 years old. You can continue to try to discredit me and make me look like a fool, but i put my foot down just as a parent does with his children.
@WombatGully3000 The worst thing about your argument is that now that you believe the entire world is conspiring against you, no amount of information will ever enlighten you to any truth. it makes me so sad to know you'll never be lifted out of this fog of ignorance and hatred of all science. There was a time when people like you could murder scientists by the thousands to stop the flow of progress, but your time is over.
@Scorpionloses What world do you live in? More then 50 percent of the population agree with me. Can you count? Roughly 2 billions Christians world wide. Roughly .1.5-2 billions Muslims world wide. Right there is 3 and a half billion people that believe in a creator. This is leaving out all over religions such as Judaism and Hinduism. So my friend it is you that thinks the world is conspiring against you. I am with the majority. Also with the majority of scientists.
@Scorpionloses Your problem is you forget about the rest of the world, you think the world revolves around you. More then 50 percent of scientists world wide still hold some kind of faith in a creator. The greatest scientist's of all time, have believe in a creator. More then 50 percent of the worlds population believes in a creator. I think you live in fantasy world. Get off the computer and go out side. Leave your house and take a walk, meet some real people. Peace
@WombatGully3000 You've been writing paragraphs for hours but you "refuse to waste your time answering my questions?"
That is the single most cowardly and laughable thing i can ever remember reading, it's amazing.
Also, listing how many people believe in God and then stating that ALL people who belong to a religion think all scientists are devil worshipping liars is truly pathetic. Does Thou shalt not bear false witness mean anything to you?
@Scorpionloses You still continue to be a hypocrite. You continue to be a blind person. You can't even read because if you could read you would understand why i am not answering your questions. I will not stoop to you level, i will not lower myself. You are a hypocrite. It's ok though because you have not denied being a hypocrite once, at least you know what you are. Hypocrite. It is pretty easy to get out of bed do you really need me to explain the process. You probably do lol
@Scorpionloses How does it feel to be treated the way you treat people? You are upset because i won't answer a question of yours. You think i am stupid and don't know anything because you won't answer a question of mine. This is the same treatment i get from atheists when i ask questions. Again why the hypocrisy?
@Scorpionloses I asked you to stop being a hypocrite, are you really that much of a hypocrite? Listen we both know atheists are the cowards that's why they will not debate a religious person in real life. Only via the internet hehehe hypocrite.
@WombatGully3000 I do it all the time in real life. I take on the preachers. Belief comes from a flawed book. PERIOD. That's all you have, a book of lies and errors. I've yet, to here a coherent argument, that didn't refer to selected quotes of the bible that prove nothing but, believe this or burn forever. Really? That's all you have "fire" insurance?
@dsrtdawg1 Stop using these fundamentalists as straw men to make yourself feel smart. You come off just as bad as them. Picking on fundamentalists is like picking on the borderline mentally challenged child in class. Also, the idea that "95% of the NAS" are atheists has some bearing on the existence of God is just as misguided as the one you are attacking. Truth is not decided be democratic procedures.
@NeoVictorianX If one isn't fundamental, they reject the "divine magic book". Without that book, there is NOTHING to support the rest. I respect, fundies for at least being true to their ignorant belief system.
@dsrtdawg1 There are two reasons people like you love Fundamentalist so much. Firstly because, as I pointed out before, their views are so easy to rip apart. It is always easy to make yourself look smart by arguing against views that are pretty much indefensible and fly in the face of empirical evidence. Secondly, because, in reality, you share so many common assumptions with them.
@dsrtdawg1 Oh, the Bible it’s either all true or it’s all false. Isn’t that convenient for you!?! Some parts are obviously not scientifically or historically accurate so you have already proven that it is whole thing is bunk. It’s such bonanza for your world view… how can you not come off smelling like roses.
@dsrtdawg1 The fact is “Christian” Fundamentalism (Biblical inerrancy, creationism, whatever) is a fairly recent invention. Christianity existed about 1800 years WITHOUT the concept of Biblical inerrancy. Fundamentalism arose as a reaction to modernity, and in all the major Christian seminaries it was generally dispatched with quickly after a noisy fight.
@dsrtdawg1 Christian scriptures are not a single text; they are a collection of texts. They contain historical inaccuracies. Their writers did not have an understanding of 21 century science. Some of the writers were prophets. Some were priests. These people had different agendas. Different parts of single texts were written by different individuals or groups, then edited and amended by redactors at latter dates. The Bible is complex.
@dsrtdawg1 Go to any major Christian seminary and everything I wrote in the last post about the Bible is taken for granted. The only magical thinking I see is your hope that Fundamentalists are somehow representative of Christianity. The majority of Christians in the world are not Fundamentalists. They are a growing group and everyone should be concerned about that, just we should be concerned about the growth of Islamic and Hindu fundamentalism.
@dsrtdawg1 Listen i don't have a degree or any phd's like every single atheist on here. I am your average person and i know that the truth can always be shown to be correct using simple terms. The only reason why some atheists can corner religious people is because the atheist uses words that even he/she does not understand. Instead of using simple language they try to make it sound so intelligent.
@dsrtdawg1 Every truth can be explained with simple terms, using a language that all humans can understand. You use your big words, you spend so much time perfecting your grammar for what? To try and show how intelligent you are? To try and confuse people? Non of you ever answer my questions and then you call me all sorts of names because i won't answer your questions. Hypocrites. Had enough, i don't get angry no more, well i try my best but far out you guys frustrate me.
@WombatGully3000 Because you speak like a fool, and you bring nothing but, name calling. Is that what Jesus would do? No hypocrisy, just repeatable, irrefutable facts vs baseless opinion.
@dsrtdawg1 When i talk to an atheist this is what i get told. I am a fool, a child, a retard, stupid, dumb, uneducated, a moron, delusional and last but not least i get told to get a science education. Do you know what is funny about this? If i am so retarded, so stupid, so dumb, so uneducated why do you all continue to debate me? Why don't you answer any of my simple questions? Why do you deny the facts? Why do you lie? Why are you all hypocrites?
@dsrtdawg1 You are all educated scientist's with some kind of degree or phd. Your time is so precious yet all you can do is insult religious people. All you can do is troll and look for religious forums and videos so you can abuse people. You have no facts. You are a liar and a fool a hypocrite. You said i bring nothing but name calling, show me where i did this. Stop lying, all i do is call you people liars and hypocrites. You are the one's that insult me and stoop to name calling.
@taledarkside I know they don't i am just saying how they all say they do. I don't think i have talked to an atheist on here that hasn't claimed to have some kind of degree, actually no there was one we actually got along but he wasn't so close minded. I am not a scientist and i don't claim to be, my knowledge is minimal but because of this i can always learn new things. Atheist's on here have closed their minds and will no longer learn anything because they think they know it all.
@dsrtdawg1 I actually got called a retard by 3 atheists before because i said gravity is easier to observe then evolution. I got called retarded and stupid for saying this. I replied to them "should i throw a brick at your heads to show you gravity in real time?" You have no facts, if you had them you would of showed them. Non of your friends or scientist figures have facts this is why they start to abuse the person, because there is no facts regarding evolution.
@dsrtdawg1 Like i have said at least a thousand times in the last year alone, if you have the proof and you believe evolution to be a fact show me. Show me the proof you hold, show me how you observe evolution, show me when you witnessed a species turn into another species. Show me the hard facts you all claim to have instead of degrading and abusing. If you can't show the facts, then that makes you a liar and a hypocrite. So i am being honest when i call you these names. Peace to you
@Scorpionloses So is that how evolution time works. Half an hour turns into hours? Years into thousands? Thousands into millions? Millions into billions? Hehehe
@WombatGully3000 You also said the majority of scientists agree with you... in the same breath you claim that all scientists who know the truth are discredited. You're unraveling...
@Scorpionloses I believe i said "So many of today scientist's still believe in a creator." Again your a liar! I also said in the past majority of the greatest scientist's believed in a creator, this is a fact. From Newton to Einstein. In today's world scientist's who disagree with evolution get dis credited and you think i am 8 or 9 years of age? Wake up and stop lying and misquoting me. Stop putting words in my mouth and taking my words out of context.
@WombatGully3000 Newton to Einstein/ today's scientists? Now who's being a hypocrite? 95% of the National Academy of Science is atheists. Wake up...their is no daddy in the sky, you don't live forever...only your mommy thinks you're special.
@TravelingSAfrican You think that guy is a real christian? *shakes his head* I really think you should take a look at the video again. It is very obvious that guy is not religious one bit, i am pretty sure he is an atheist and it amazes me that you actually wrote "another small victory for atheists" Same old story, you are all supposed to be intelligent yet the truth is not many of you are. Everything about this video is fake and you can tell if you had any common sense. Peace
@WombatGully3000 Well, Mr. Wombat, I truly don't care if this guy is atheist or not. My comment was more towards his inability to count. If the video had stated "Atheists get mad......" then I would have said "another small victory for christians". Regardless, the fact that you couldn't see that I was joking around shows that you have less intelligence than you originally thought I possessed.
ps. Don't bother replying, because I won't bother reading your ramblings.
@TravelingSAfrican Of course you don't care, just like the atheist doesn't care for the truth and continues to willingly follow a lie and hoax. The only thing i will no longer bother to do is try to understand what goes through the mind of an average atheist. I have tried for so long and i am stuck, i think i got a better chance of understand a women. Damn if i can do that I'm gonna be rich! Wish me luck!
@WombatGully3000 Haha. I'm sorry, curiosity got the better of me. Curiosity, the trademark of an ATHEIST... I had to laugh when you stated that atheists "willingly follow a lie and hoax". My reply is quite simple... You're BLACK, Mister POT.... seeing as you're clearly not too bright, I guess I'll have to explain. You, "friend", are the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. And what goes through the mind of an "average atheist"? Simple. THE TRUTH. Good luck. You'll need it =)
@TravelingSAfrican Got ya! I catch you atheists like i catch fish. I chuck the bait on, and you go for it. Fish are so intelligent right? I don't need luck my friend, i have the truth in my life. I can't go wrong with the truth do you want to know why? The truth continues to reveal itself, the truth doesn't change, the truth doesn't need a bunch of published lies and hoaxes to prove a point. The truth doesn't need to abuse when questioned, it can handle investigation.
@TravelingSAfrican The average atheist is willingly ignorant. I mean you believe anything is possible but god. That is ignorance at its greatest. You come out and say god does not exist because we can't find him. You come out and say its a fact there is no god yet you haven't died and risen from the dead, you haven't visited all the galaxies and you have no clue what is outside of the universe. This my friend is ignorance at its finest.
@TravelingSAfrican I don't need luck, luck is not involved in the truth. I wish i had just 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the luck the religion of evolution has, i would win lotto at least 100 times. :)
@WombatGully3000 Got me? Haha! We clearly have very different views on what "Got ya!" implies. Willingly ignorant? You're a funny, funny guy, I'll give you that much. As an atheists I question everything that goes on around me and you are stupid enough to call me ignorant? Haha. Stupidity is truly running rampant on Youtube today! As a christian you are spoon-fed what you should believe, what you should think, what you can and cannot do, who you can and cannot judge.
@mropinionful A few thousand years ago you would have been telling us to honor and abide by Zeus. Just like the Greek religion, in the future Christianity will be taught as myth. Lee strobel is a lawyer, which does not qualify him. You might as well believe in fairy tales.
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People who don't believe in Dinosaurs really need to go to a Museum or read a good science book. There is so much evidence for Dinosaurs its unbelievable, why would you want to reject these magnificent animals that reigned for millions of years and have earned there place in history. Only an ignorant fool that has been mislead in some way would deny all the fossils of differing animals, plants, vertebrates, insects that were around when the mighty Dinosaurs ruled this planet.
GLICKTON 12 hours ago
@GLICKTON Brain washed by the church is more like it,these are the same kooks that believe in creationism over evolution.I bet a priest diddled this pathetic kid just one to many times during bible study sleepovers .
THEFINALSOLUTION03 11 hours ago
@THEFINALSOLUTION03 Hahahah, shush though, not supposed to talk about the Priests that gets brushed under the carpet because is is rife right through the church including the Vatican.
GLICKTON 11 hours ago
"One word, asshole THE BIBLE". Lol
Gryffster 13 hours ago
HAHAHAHHA
omg
dont try to brainwash me man
brentburek 14 hours ago 2
@brentburek theres nothing left to be brain washed
theWACKIIRAQI 13 hours ago
How bout those dinosaurs!!!!! Priceless, I laughed my ass off! One word The Bible? Great post!
chrispycritter2 15 hours ago
Wow the bible well thats proof anough for me,fuck off jesus freaks.
THEFINALSOLUTION03 15 hours ago
@THEFINALSOLUTION03 more accurate predictions than any other written manuscript in history. burden of proof is on the skeptics... Lee strobel The case for Christ
mropinionful 12 hours ago
This must be staged.
ThatDanmGuy 1 day ago
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dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
cryovacdiva 1 day ago
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dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
cryovacdiva 1 day ago
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dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
cryovacdiva 1 day ago
dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
cryovacdiva 1 day ago
dinosaurs existed dudes. our time is just different from GODs time. a day to us cudve been a million or so years to GOD. HE DIDNT CREATE JUST TO MAKE MAN. GOD made the heavens and the earth and everything else in between. Man was created to glorify and walk with him, to create with him, to extend and show the depth of his love. i believe as a result to help correct the bad taste of Lucifer's rebellion and help play out the story of rebellion so it never comes up as an issue again. i like T REX
cryovacdiva 1 day ago
Dinosaurs don't exist? What the fuck?
bmanyugioh7 1 day ago
@bmanyugioh7 Alligators are dinosaurs, yep! so u r not right...
TheDarthvader9999 1 day ago
@TheDarthvader9999 So are birds, dude. :)
philhunter2005 16 hours ago
@TheDarthvader9999 I was trying to express my surprise. I know dinosaurs exist. XD
bmanyugioh7 12 hours ago
soooo...... if god is creator he made dinosaurs first right? so why isnt there any reference in the bible to the first living creature rading the earth. not even 1 litle reference. and if he is perfect he has to for see a lot of things so he has forseen a meteor striking earth... and he let all of the dinosaurs die....
swordangel3 1 day ago
"one word asshole: the bible" isnt that like... two words
86Corvus 1 day ago
that bastard is trying to brainwash that clean looking man with knowledge and common sense
MightyJak555 1 day ago
Eh? Wait. Dinosaurs aren't real? All those fossils are FAKE?!?!?! Oh no, what now? The hairy kid must be the second coming. He's the messiah. I have his gourd...
carlosthejackal 1 day ago
what 2+2 dude
phillNWUK 2 days ago
Dinosaurs weren't real? Where was this kid brainwashed at?
gregpasq 2 days ago
@gregpasq Church?
THEFINALSOLUTION03 15 hours ago
Typical American "Christians" they preach the "word" of "god" but still think its fine to use curse words hmmmmm the mind does boggle. Although for me, I don`t tell people I live by the Bible, like a lot of hypocritical "christians" do, therefore I can say and do what the fuck I want
:-)
MrMarko890 2 days ago
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5jerry1 3 days ago
@5jerry1 That was too corny to be real, but too convincing to be fake.
5jerry1 3 days ago
This was staged, right? Please tell me it was staged...
assatashakira 3 days ago
Please tell me that this was staged... If you become physically agitated when someone challenges your beliefs, then your beliefs aren't sound. Pay attention to your inner-self. That split-second of self-doubt is your mind trying to wake you up. Listen to it.
People only become physically angry when they can't cope with the stimulus. Usually due to fear of the unknown.. That unknown is any worldly knowledge that is found outside of the theologic bubble. The kid is brainwashed. Help him.
ASquared007 3 days ago
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For the life of me I can't understand why people think being a Christian means you're suppose to know everything.
Read Job 40:15-24 and tell me what the behemoth describes. It describes a dinosaur.
Google 'Gobekli Tempe', it is the oldest known man made structure on the planet. It has lots of carvings of animals. One of which looks identical to a stegosaurus. There are lots of drawings and carvings of dinosaurs through out history. :)
TheJohndoemofo 3 days ago
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TheJohndoemofo 3 days ago
Dinosaurs? The fool does not know he derives from the lizard -we all do-, and yet it can be compatible with God's existence. What a joke of a guy.
JaimeinUK 3 days ago
@JaimeinUK we derive from the lizard??? Go read something about animal classes and orders and evolution...
Next thing you're going to tell me is that dinosaurs are lizards right????
masterknaster 1 day ago
Hey atheists, im a Christian and trust me we are not like that hell i was obsessed with dinosaurs when i was a kid and dug up my entire backyard looking for fossiles and wanted to become a paleontogologist. So please dont judge us when you see dumbfucks we are not like that.
MrDakadaka 4 days ago
How is the bible proof....theres no proof of who wrote it....for all we know it could be madeup names
Painx17 4 days ago
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I love that adults can have imaginary friends too!!............ oh wait?... is that not called schizophrenia!?........ shit get the guy a doctor before he kills you in his sleep dude!!
MarmadukeLove 4 days ago
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well i look at death as a combination of evoulotion and reincarnation where as soon as u die u can be reborn because every second 3 people die 5 are born which leaves two empty vessels which either generate two new people or we all started out as single celled organisms and had to work are way up the latter untill we became monkeys after you die from your monkey form then u get to the final stage which is human and once again once ur human you always remain human goerge carlin has been reborn
1mcashinrs 4 days ago
Is this for real?
i8A8i 5 days ago
he passed history right? I hope not.
sk8er666almost 5 days ago
THATS 2 WORDS BRO
dec0y8 6 days ago 37
lol at "the bible" being two words.
kidshady45 6 days ago
Whenever a person mentions dinosaur to me I react like a seven year old kid and impersonate a t-rex, and dinosaurs are awesome because there is fossil evidence for them, also evidence also suggest from the fossil Archaeopteryx is the first fossil for feathers forming which does somewhat suggest that some dinosaurs did evolve into birds, whilst others would have most certainly would have gone extinct, also sometimes when people mention dinosaurs I love to mimic an eagle XD.
ecos889 6 days ago
One word, asshole - "Jurassic Park". If dinosaurs weren't real how could they bring them back to life and train them to act in a movie GENIUS.
clokverkorange 1 week ago
"one word asshole.The bible"....I can see fault in that argument without even opening it up.
8874alex 1 week ago 2
Is this real? Unless he was on candid camera, I doubt he'd consent to being filmed.
xoxILoveCatsxox 1 week ago
The guy is completely stoned
JSimpsonBart 1 week ago
Come on! Everyone who's a christian knows the real reason the dinosaur's are extinct, they were all pagans. So god was like "Au contraire mon frere" (because, you know god's french) and blasted the little lizards with oh so many fire balls. So remember Christians on your way to church in your little sedan, that's pagan blood running your car. ha ha
TheKnives777 1 week ago
This is my proof for God. The prophets predicted JESUS CHRIST first coming to the exact year 483 years before he came. The prophets predicted on what street christ would be born 700 years before he came. I know you athiest will say but people wrote the new testament to match the old. well than look at the new testament prophecies that are coming true today. rev 17 said the anti christ would sit with the harlot chruch in rome behold the pope and catholic church. JESUS predicted the NWO
cuvinteleluitati 1 week ago
@cuvinteleluitati Wow with all that proof you don't even need to have any faith. Congratulations.
NeoVictorianX 1 week ago
@NeoVictorianX hahaha you cant even imagin how much more proof God gave us. he told us the roman empire would be divided into 10 kingdoms 1000 years before it happend. he told us a blasphemoues king who would exhault himself as high as christ would take over the nations of europe and so the pope made his entrance in the dark ages and did the blasphemoues things God said he would do, and if you study the scriptures more you will see the pope is satan chosen vessel used to bring NWO
cuvinteleluitati 1 week ago
@cuvinteleluitati You obviously don't know the history of the Bible and how it cam to be the book we read today. Its a twisted story book moulded to meet the requirements of the time each bit was written and re written. Think its sad that people waste their lives, get on with your life and enjoy it! We only have one and then it goes back to being what we were before we were born. If you want to be spiritual think of it as borrowing your body from the earth, you just give it back after 80 years.
jonny96 6 days ago
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dsrtdawg1 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 I see truth every day my friend. I accept the truth doesn't change and can handle any form of investigation thrown at it. I know the truth will hold its own even after thousands of years of attack. I know the truth will reveal itself to us through nature and science. Please don't talk to me about ignorance. Every atheist needs to study a few words. Logic, Fact, Ignorance, Faith and last but not least Hypocrite. Lean the meaning of them. A lot of them describe the atheist.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 And yet religion has yet to provide any shred of evidence to support its claim, beyond personal feelings and individual witness.
Your comment about 'survived thousands of years of attack' is incorrect; it's only recently that people can speak against religion without fear of persecution (for the most part).
pmodd 1 week ago
@pmodd The bible has been getting attacked for thousands of years this is a fact. When the old testament was written, they were being attacked. When the new testament was written they were getting attacked. There was a period in the church where it did not get attacked. All together the bible has been attacked for at least thousands of years. This is fact if you knew anything about history. Archeology proves bible history. Scientific facts in the bible are correct
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@pmodd I mean every time the bible mentions something, people say it is a lie. The empire it the Hittites. City of Jericho. Names of people, names of towns. Kings from the Egyptians, Babylonians to the Persians. There has never been a discovery to go against the bible, the discoveries always confirm the bible story. If the bible was not a religious book it would be taught all over the world as factual history. I don't use personal feelings and individual witness. Another assumption.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@pmodd When there is a man, who has been an atheist his whole life. Lets say he is 40. At the age of 41 something remarkable happens to him. He says he experienced something beyond this world. You don't believe him. You need god to come down and smack you across the head to believe. I don't i accept i have faith, you need to start accepting you have faith in evolution because you too are believing in the unseen.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
That being said, some Christians are nice people. BUT TO THE REST OF YOU ASSHOLES THAT TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON PEOPLE, GO SWALLOW A KNIFE!!!
TheVisionary84 1 week ago
I think Christians are the dumbest most ignorant pathetic excuses for human shit that the world has produced. No wonder Nazi's were Christian. And I'm not an atheist either. Just not stupid enough to believe in a man made religion designed to spread ignorance because ignorant masses are easy to control. Or believe the word of God is in a book that glorifies genocide and slavery in the name of a 100 foot invisible man in the sky. And, "Sarah Palin" need I say more?
TheVisionary84 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Sorry man that thumbs down was meant to be a thumbs up, clicked the wrong button, beautifully stated.
TheVisionary84 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 You don't need to feel sorry for me my friend, i don't believe life came from some kind of soup. I believe life was created by an all powerful being. I am proud of this. I don't believe life to be an accidental random process, i believe life to have a purpose. Again i am proud of this. I believe man was created as a man and we are different to animals. Again very proud of this. Last but not least i believe in science, god created it. This is why science is against evolution
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
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@WombatGully3000 The more you talk, the more ignorance you show. You confuse hypothesis with religion. This just illustrates how religion corrupts critical thinking. I realize you refuse to see the truth, repeatable, demonstrative proofs, therefore I've no choice but to wish you the best and hope you stop languishing in ignorance and pursue a real education at some point. Do it for your prodigy if not yourself. Sorry for big words, there is a character limit.
dsrtdawg1 1 week ago
Don't worry, God put the fossils there to test your faith. If you are a young-earth creationist even despite fossil evidence, then you are a true believer and will go straight to heaven. You mustn't be tempted by common sense.
JohnnyRazor69 1 week ago 51
@JohnnyRazor69 Which begs the question, if a god knows all of what you have done, and what you will do, why would said god need to test you.
curtst 6 days ago
@JohnnyRazor69 watch this video...it explains how the same evidence can be looked at either way /watch?v=Mdk4MqNRqbo&list=FL9ad8T2vy3oS9ioYnAHeYGQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
twistedDERVISHER 4 days ago
@twistedDERVISHER Except that it would seem odd to me if God instructed Noah to leave all the dinosaurs. It's not like it was a bunch of strange and different creatures, they were all dinosaurs genetically. What's more, there is no place for any of the modern animals Noah would've had to take in the biosphere of the dinosaurs, and moreover, no more modern animals, or indeed humans, seem to have perished in the flood at the same time as the dinosaurs, or there'd be fossils.
JohnnyRazor69 3 days ago
@JohnnyRazor69 yea man first off i definitely don't claim to know all the answers. I love to learn about stuff like this and i encourage you to look into for yourself. Answers in Genesis is a great website that explains a lot of this stuff, just make sure you go into it with an open mind and heart. And it is my understanding (as limited as that is) that human fossils have been found. Oh and incase you didn't already know dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible in the book of Job. I hope this helps
twistedDERVISHER 3 days ago
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@twistedDERVISHER Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
marionetemanJ 3 days ago
@twistedDERVISHER "Answers in Genesis is a great website..." AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Lordgaraj 3 days ago
@Lordgaraj laugh it up buddy. I doubt you have read any of the topics or discussions on there and if you have then you mind certainly isn't open to see both sides. all evidence is viewed through a persons world view. and besides having a civilized topic or debate isn't accomplished by laughing at your opponent
twistedDERVISHER 3 days ago
@twistedDERVISHER "Answers in Genesis is a great website...laugh it up buddy."
""Ridicule is the only weapon that can be used against unintelligible propositions."
~Thomas Jefferson
ReverendWyrm 3 days ago
@ReverendWyrm Thats exactly my point thank you for supporting me. Im honestly wondering were you trying to support me or was that a rebuttal, because the guy that is directed at was the one doing the ridiculing...not me
twistedDERVISHER 2 days ago
@twistedDERVISHER "Im honestly wondering were you trying to support me..." Not in the least if you propose any kind of hypothesis for the origin of the Universe or life that requires magic or controverts the vast amounts of scientific data that continues to be collected supporting an "old" earth. If you think it's reasonable that all human being are wicked deserving to be put to death or tortured for eternity if they failed to kiss god's ass than you deserve to be ridiculed.
ReverendWyrm 13 hours ago
@ReverendWyrm we are all wicked... christians too. christians are just forgivin... look at history. nothing good. this war that war... the bible predicts the false prophet 550 yrs before muhammed fulfilled it....
mropinionful 12 hours ago
@mropinionful That's the problem. The faithful believe they are already forgiven, and therefore can treat other people in whatever terrible manner they wish. They don't worry about being good people. Why would you if you are forgiven already for whatever you do? After all, the bible says clearly all you have to do to get into heaven is believe. I does not have a requirement for one to be a good person, just a blind faith believer is good enough for jesus. Not good enough for me though.
InteGrayting2 11 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 believe and REPENT. many don't worry bout trying to be good people thats true. the inquisition for instance... If the leaders of the church in that time had read the bible they would hav seen "he without sin can cast the 1rst stone" and there would have been no inquisition. jesus coming to earth was gods way of proving that he, as a human, was able to do what no other could... fulfill the law with perfection. An its not blind faith. quite the opposite.
mropinionful 10 hours ago
@mropinionful The very definition of blind faith is believing is anything without evidence. There is absolutely no factual evidence to support the claim of any supreme being. It's not a case of man denying a god. It is simply a case of man denying another man's claims of a god without evidence. That has no bearing on me being a good person, because I know that I am. That is what matters, not believing in the unbelievable. I have found peace, and happiness without faith.
InteGrayting2 10 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 Lee strobel "the case for christ" thats evidence. he originally was gonna write a book disproving god and swung the other way... read it.
mropinionful 10 hours ago
@mropinionful Not interested. You can't disprove god, and to even try to shows some kind of mental defect. I would never set out to prove fairies are not real. If there was concrete proof of god we would all know about it, and we would all believe. Every atheist in the world simply requires actual proof. If you had proof and walked up to any true atheist and showed it to them, they would simply say wow, and then believe. They would believe because there would be actual reason to.
InteGrayting2 9 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 I give you actual proof and you say not interested. you require actual proof? case for christ by lee strobel. im not gonna read it for you, an im not gonna write the 300 page book on utube.. you want to deny any proof that comes your way it seems like. you cant refuse to look at the sky just to deny its blue... well you can but its self-censorship. REFUSAL to look at the proof is on you. Its there if you wanna look. Look and See if the sky is blue or not.
mropinionful 9 hours ago
@mropinionful It's not that. Please don't misunderstand me. I have never, is 7 years of hard study have found anything that is actual evidence. People have offered me hundreds of books, articles, personal testimony and so on. Alright, I'll check it out. As a skeptic, I am just tired of what people think is evidence, and I apologize for just dismissing your suggestion. I will not delete our exchange so I can report what I find. Thanks
InteGrayting2 9 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 I'm Agnostic because I have no faith for the concept of infinity. Atheists are just as pathetic as creationists. Your all too scared to say "I don't know".
andyAAWW 6 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 If you resist the devil he will flee from you. then the "blind" faith is over time givin sight...if you resist the holy spirit he will flee as well an you dont get the insight that comes only from being close to Him...
mropinionful 10 hours ago
@mropinionful I do not subscribe to a any faith. When a serial killer can repent on his deathbed and go to heaven, and a person of great deeds who never knew of god goes to hell, I could never join, support, or believe in a religion that only requires belief and not deeds.
InteGrayting2 10 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 noone has great deeds. all are tainted. the serial killer may go to heaven, but still will be punished... All are judged on everything we say or do, good or bad. but yes, humanity as a whole are evil creatures, not one of us is worthy.
mropinionful 10 hours ago
@mropinionful Do you even know how insulting that is? My daughter who is just a child has never hurt anyone, but according to you she is filthy, and evil? Now more than ever I stand by my assessment of faith. They trick us into believing we are all born evil,a nd the only salvation is to believe without proof. Funny....all of the world's main religions say that. What if mormonism is the only right one. Or islam? Or catholicism? None of them have proof, all have the same claim.
InteGrayting2 10 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 the bible says to try to have faith like the little children. your daughter has the capacity (as we all ) for evil. temptation. All the religions you listed are all based on the same thing. even Islam. the koran (written 550 yrs after the bible) talks of moses, abraham, issac, ishmael, and jesus. muslims believe jesus will return to tell christians to worship allah. the bible talks of the false prophet. muhammed fulfilled that. all based on boks by moses.
mropinionful 9 hours ago
@InteGrayting2 mormans added to the bible (says a spirit led joseph smith) and catholics are christians with 9 extra books in the bible. jesus had no capacity for evil. It shows His greatness, to be able to follow his own law.(wihch no other human is able to do-ANYONE) I gave you proof; you chose to ignore it. Lee strobel. untill you read it, you cannot say its not proof.....
mropinionful 9 hours ago
@ReverendWyrm and that was not an "unintelligible proposition" I was stating my opinion. I think its a good website with reliable sources written by credible scientist, physicists, mathematicians, and the list goes on. So don't put quotes that done make sense just to look smart please. Next time do a little more in depth research instead of searching google for quotes. Thanks have a nice day.
twistedDERVISHER 2 days ago
@twistedDERVISHER "I think its a good website with reliable sources..." Do a little deeper research mate. Answers in Genesis is a joke, founded by creationist Ken Ham. His own head "scientists" at his creationist "museum" have gone on record as saying that there was evidence in unquestionable contention with the bible they would have to ignore it in favour of the bible. That still sound reliable to you?
ReverendWyrm 13 hours ago
@ReverendWyrm one more reference, if you wanna play quote games here you go. anyone can do it....
"I know that ridicule may be a shield, but it is not a weapon"
~Dorothy Parker
twistedDERVISHER 2 days ago
@twistedDERVISHER
Nope. Evidence is the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. A fact is a thing that is indisputably the case. Both from the dictionary. Don't try to claim evidence unless you have met the definition of the term. Evidence is not subjective. I really don't care if you're arguing for or against theists. Don't misuse the term. There is neither evidence for or against the existence of gods.
scottyfbomb 3 days ago
@scottyfbomb I didn't misuse any term. You aren't even staying in context of the argument. We weren't talking about the existence of God, or at least I wasn't. I was stating how evidence can be viewed differently. Just like in a court case if hair is found at a crime scene, it doesn't automatically mean the owner of the hair is the killer. It takes interpretation. Just because you have evidence, it doesn't mean you know exactly what the evidence is pointing too. Think logically please
twistedDERVISHER 2 days ago
@JohnnyRazor69 Credit the Author sir R.I.P Bill Hicks!!!!!!!! fuk the N.WO!
TheDarthvader9999 1 day ago
That I why I didn't want to live in the dorms in college. If they were room-mates they probably drove each other nuts.
howboutthisname 1 week ago
*eternal facepalm*
PappeH 1 week ago
Christian friend said to me: "You don't have to dumb-down to be a Christian..."
So what do you call it? Deliberate denial of factual understanding? Self-imposed naivety?
Auto-fear infatuation? Infantile guilt attribution? Desire of the Atmospheric Big Daddy? How about: Avoidance of personal responsibility? Moral recipe seeking? Flock mentality?
modelleg 1 week ago
The bible tells me not to use combs. I'm out of here. Truth.
JSHIVERSMCDEATH 1 week ago
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Dinosaurs weren't real? The devil hid all those fossils deep in the earth to fool us. Poor kid, it's almost child abuse to let your kid be this ignorant.
bitterballoffrogs 1 week ago
hahaha Religion was only created because Humans are the only species aware of their own mortality and it comforts them to think that there will be something else after death! Nothing more!
jonny96 1 week ago 44
@jonny96 brilliant comment
TheBargar 1 week ago
@jonny96 bang on!
IMONAMADTING1 1 week ago
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@jonny96 "it comforts them......." Who? Are you saying, in all complete honesty, that you have somehow drawn a conclusion from somewhere that EVERY person that has a religion only does so because it comforts them to think that there will be something else after death and nothin more?
I'd be really interested to know exactly how you managed to come to that conclusion?There are literally BILLIONS of people that believe in the after life. Are you speaking for all of them? Amazing !!
wasimsworld 1 week ago
@jonny96
If you haven't seen yet, check out the "Through the wormhole" series, the first episode titled "Is there a creator?"... Dr. Michael Persinger talks specifically about what you just mentioned!
Spetsop 1 week ago
@Spetsop I'll check it out
jonny96 6 days ago
@jonny96 Religion was created for a lot more reasons than just that.
mutoneon 5 days ago
@mutoneon Yes your right, another was to help people grief. To comfort them in life to know their loved ones have gone to a better place.
jonny96 5 days ago
@jonny96 The biggest proponents of religion tend to be the corrupt leaders who invoke its language in order to manipulate large masses of people.
mutoneon 4 days ago
@jonny96 yes, I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks that.
Achedb0b1 5 days ago
I'm an atheist who I disapproves of secretly filming people, calling them names then broadcasting it on the Internet. Congratulations on being a bullying prick.
bitplane 1 week ago
Wow, look what we have here... Yet another complete drain on society, who can't even count, but of course no so much better than accomplished scientists and intellectuals in academia. No evidence for God, but we know that is true, because I read about it or my parents told me so.. While an overwhelming amount of physical evidence that screams out the existence of dinosaurs, which goes far beyond just bones, is so obviously just a work of fiction/imagination. Bravo, bravo!!! Now go take a bath...
inputverifier 1 week ago
sooooo how about those dinosaurs
hakjob9847 1 week ago
I like it how atheists lie through their teeth. They always say religious people are against science it is one of the biggest lies out there. All religious people love science because it is a way they can get closer to the creator. All the greatest scientist's in the world believed in a creator. Why do you people lie? All of the greatest minds on earth have believed in a creator. So many of today scientist's still believe in a creator. Liars, Hypocrites. Children. Wake up!
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
The problem is most evolutionist's have already made up their minds. They already deny the existence of god and when researching they have this conclusion. Everything they find, they try and disprove god instead or proving god. This is why the evolutionist will never see god. If you decide to go into this research with an open mind, thinking to yourself ok either way could be true, you will come out believing in a creator as many atheists have done. Try it unless your to scared.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 You also refuse to explain how evolution can be false when all antibiotics rely on evolutionary science, are you claiming that antibiotics don't exist? Because you keep claiming that these scientists have no proof of anything they believe.
Scorpionloses 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses You don't answer a single one of my question and call me a liar because i won't answer yours? You hypocrite, as i said before you remind of the religious hypocrites, the early catholic church. You hypocrite!!! We can still be friends though its ok. Understand why i am not answering anything for you, understand it far out even a kid would understand why. Evolution is not science, science proves evolution to be false.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses Yes i refuse to waste my time answering your questions because your mind is already blocked off. If you prove to me your not a time waster i would consider answering your questions. You can continue to think low of me, i don't care. You can continue to think i am stupid, i am 8 or 9 years old. You can continue to try to discredit me and make me look like a fool, but i put my foot down just as a parent does with his children.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 The worst thing about your argument is that now that you believe the entire world is conspiring against you, no amount of information will ever enlighten you to any truth. it makes me so sad to know you'll never be lifted out of this fog of ignorance and hatred of all science. There was a time when people like you could murder scientists by the thousands to stop the flow of progress, but your time is over.
Scorpionloses 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses What world do you live in? More then 50 percent of the population agree with me. Can you count? Roughly 2 billions Christians world wide. Roughly .1.5-2 billions Muslims world wide. Right there is 3 and a half billion people that believe in a creator. This is leaving out all over religions such as Judaism and Hinduism. So my friend it is you that thinks the world is conspiring against you. I am with the majority. Also with the majority of scientists.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses Your problem is you forget about the rest of the world, you think the world revolves around you. More then 50 percent of scientists world wide still hold some kind of faith in a creator. The greatest scientist's of all time, have believe in a creator. More then 50 percent of the worlds population believes in a creator. I think you live in fantasy world. Get off the computer and go out side. Leave your house and take a walk, meet some real people. Peace
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 You've been writing paragraphs for hours but you "refuse to waste your time answering my questions?"
That is the single most cowardly and laughable thing i can ever remember reading, it's amazing.
Also, listing how many people believe in God and then stating that ALL people who belong to a religion think all scientists are devil worshipping liars is truly pathetic. Does Thou shalt not bear false witness mean anything to you?
Scorpionloses 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses Why wont you answer any of mine?
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses Why won't you stop being a hypocrite?
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 So you still refuse to answer the questions, such an amazing coward, how do you even get out of bed?
Scorpionloses 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses You still continue to be a hypocrite. You continue to be a blind person. You can't even read because if you could read you would understand why i am not answering your questions. I will not stoop to you level, i will not lower myself. You are a hypocrite. It's ok though because you have not denied being a hypocrite once, at least you know what you are. Hypocrite. It is pretty easy to get out of bed do you really need me to explain the process. You probably do lol
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses How does it feel to be treated the way you treat people? You are upset because i won't answer a question of yours. You think i am stupid and don't know anything because you won't answer a question of mine. This is the same treatment i get from atheists when i ask questions. Again why the hypocrisy?
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 I asked you to explain gravity, dogs, and bacteria, are you really that much of a coward?
Scorpionloses 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses I asked you to stop being a hypocrite, are you really that much of a hypocrite? Listen we both know atheists are the cowards that's why they will not debate a religious person in real life. Only via the internet hehehe hypocrite.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 I do it all the time in real life. I take on the preachers. Belief comes from a flawed book. PERIOD. That's all you have, a book of lies and errors. I've yet, to here a coherent argument, that didn't refer to selected quotes of the bible that prove nothing but, believe this or burn forever. Really? That's all you have "fire" insurance?
dsrtdawg1 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Stop using these fundamentalists as straw men to make yourself feel smart. You come off just as bad as them. Picking on fundamentalists is like picking on the borderline mentally challenged child in class. Also, the idea that "95% of the NAS" are atheists has some bearing on the existence of God is just as misguided as the one you are attacking. Truth is not decided be democratic procedures.
NeoVictorianX 1 week ago
@NeoVictorianX If one isn't fundamental, they reject the "divine magic book". Without that book, there is NOTHING to support the rest. I respect, fundies for at least being true to their ignorant belief system.
dsrtdawg1 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 There are two reasons people like you love Fundamentalist so much. Firstly because, as I pointed out before, their views are so easy to rip apart. It is always easy to make yourself look smart by arguing against views that are pretty much indefensible and fly in the face of empirical evidence. Secondly, because, in reality, you share so many common assumptions with them.
NeoVictorianX 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Oh, the Bible it’s either all true or it’s all false. Isn’t that convenient for you!?! Some parts are obviously not scientifically or historically accurate so you have already proven that it is whole thing is bunk. It’s such bonanza for your world view… how can you not come off smelling like roses.
NeoVictorianX 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 The fact is “Christian” Fundamentalism (Biblical inerrancy, creationism, whatever) is a fairly recent invention. Christianity existed about 1800 years WITHOUT the concept of Biblical inerrancy. Fundamentalism arose as a reaction to modernity, and in all the major Christian seminaries it was generally dispatched with quickly after a noisy fight.
NeoVictorianX 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Christian scriptures are not a single text; they are a collection of texts. They contain historical inaccuracies. Their writers did not have an understanding of 21 century science. Some of the writers were prophets. Some were priests. These people had different agendas. Different parts of single texts were written by different individuals or groups, then edited and amended by redactors at latter dates. The Bible is complex.
NeoVictorianX 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Go to any major Christian seminary and everything I wrote in the last post about the Bible is taken for granted. The only magical thinking I see is your hope that Fundamentalists are somehow representative of Christianity. The majority of Christians in the world are not Fundamentalists. They are a growing group and everyone should be concerned about that, just we should be concerned about the growth of Islamic and Hindu fundamentalism.
NeoVictorianX 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Listen i don't have a degree or any phd's like every single atheist on here. I am your average person and i know that the truth can always be shown to be correct using simple terms. The only reason why some atheists can corner religious people is because the atheist uses words that even he/she does not understand. Instead of using simple language they try to make it sound so intelligent.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Every truth can be explained with simple terms, using a language that all humans can understand. You use your big words, you spend so much time perfecting your grammar for what? To try and show how intelligent you are? To try and confuse people? Non of you ever answer my questions and then you call me all sorts of names because i won't answer your questions. Hypocrites. Had enough, i don't get angry no more, well i try my best but far out you guys frustrate me.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 Because you speak like a fool, and you bring nothing but, name calling. Is that what Jesus would do? No hypocrisy, just repeatable, irrefutable facts vs baseless opinion.
dsrtdawg1 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 When i talk to an atheist this is what i get told. I am a fool, a child, a retard, stupid, dumb, uneducated, a moron, delusional and last but not least i get told to get a science education. Do you know what is funny about this? If i am so retarded, so stupid, so dumb, so uneducated why do you all continue to debate me? Why don't you answer any of my simple questions? Why do you deny the facts? Why do you lie? Why are you all hypocrites?
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 You are all educated scientist's with some kind of degree or phd. Your time is so precious yet all you can do is insult religious people. All you can do is troll and look for religious forums and videos so you can abuse people. You have no facts. You are a liar and a fool a hypocrite. You said i bring nothing but name calling, show me where i did this. Stop lying, all i do is call you people liars and hypocrites. You are the one's that insult me and stoop to name calling.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000
I doubt any athiest that is on youtube bitching religious people out on youtube have any science degree.
I have two science degrees and I can tell the atheists are dumb just like the people that believe UFOs are probing their asshole.
taledarkside 1 week ago
@taledarkside I know they don't i am just saying how they all say they do. I don't think i have talked to an atheist on here that hasn't claimed to have some kind of degree, actually no there was one we actually got along but he wasn't so close minded. I am not a scientist and i don't claim to be, my knowledge is minimal but because of this i can always learn new things. Atheist's on here have closed their minds and will no longer learn anything because they think they know it all.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 I actually got called a retard by 3 atheists before because i said gravity is easier to observe then evolution. I got called retarded and stupid for saying this. I replied to them "should i throw a brick at your heads to show you gravity in real time?" You have no facts, if you had them you would of showed them. Non of your friends or scientist figures have facts this is why they start to abuse the person, because there is no facts regarding evolution.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 Like i have said at least a thousand times in the last year alone, if you have the proof and you believe evolution to be a fact show me. Show me the proof you hold, show me how you observe evolution, show me when you witnessed a species turn into another species. Show me the hard facts you all claim to have instead of degrading and abusing. If you can't show the facts, then that makes you a liar and a hypocrite. So i am being honest when i call you these names. Peace to you
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses So is that how evolution time works. Half an hour turns into hours? Years into thousands? Thousands into millions? Millions into billions? Hehehe
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 You also said the majority of scientists agree with you... in the same breath you claim that all scientists who know the truth are discredited. You're unraveling...
Scorpionloses 1 week ago
@Scorpionloses I believe i said "So many of today scientist's still believe in a creator." Again your a liar! I also said in the past majority of the greatest scientist's believed in a creator, this is a fact. From Newton to Einstein. In today's world scientist's who disagree with evolution get dis credited and you think i am 8 or 9 years of age? Wake up and stop lying and misquoting me. Stop putting words in my mouth and taking my words out of context.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 Newton to Einstein/ today's scientists? Now who's being a hypocrite? 95% of the National Academy of Science is atheists. Wake up...their is no daddy in the sky, you don't live forever...only your mommy thinks you're special.
dsrtdawg1 1 week ago
@dsrtdawg1 lol
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
"1 word, asshole, The Bible..." Another small victory for atheists. First learn how to count, then start debating religion.
TravelingSAfrican 1 week ago 15
@TravelingSAfrican You think that guy is a real christian? *shakes his head* I really think you should take a look at the video again. It is very obvious that guy is not religious one bit, i am pretty sure he is an atheist and it amazes me that you actually wrote "another small victory for atheists" Same old story, you are all supposed to be intelligent yet the truth is not many of you are. Everything about this video is fake and you can tell if you had any common sense. Peace
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 Well, Mr. Wombat, I truly don't care if this guy is atheist or not. My comment was more towards his inability to count. If the video had stated "Atheists get mad......" then I would have said "another small victory for christians". Regardless, the fact that you couldn't see that I was joking around shows that you have less intelligence than you originally thought I possessed.
ps. Don't bother replying, because I won't bother reading your ramblings.
TravelingSAfrican 1 week ago
@TravelingSAfrican Of course you don't care, just like the atheist doesn't care for the truth and continues to willingly follow a lie and hoax. The only thing i will no longer bother to do is try to understand what goes through the mind of an average atheist. I have tried for so long and i am stuck, i think i got a better chance of understand a women. Damn if i can do that I'm gonna be rich! Wish me luck!
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 Haha. I'm sorry, curiosity got the better of me. Curiosity, the trademark of an ATHEIST... I had to laugh when you stated that atheists "willingly follow a lie and hoax". My reply is quite simple... You're BLACK, Mister POT.... seeing as you're clearly not too bright, I guess I'll have to explain. You, "friend", are the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. And what goes through the mind of an "average atheist"? Simple. THE TRUTH. Good luck. You'll need it =)
TravelingSAfrican 1 week ago
@TravelingSAfrican Got ya! I catch you atheists like i catch fish. I chuck the bait on, and you go for it. Fish are so intelligent right? I don't need luck my friend, i have the truth in my life. I can't go wrong with the truth do you want to know why? The truth continues to reveal itself, the truth doesn't change, the truth doesn't need a bunch of published lies and hoaxes to prove a point. The truth doesn't need to abuse when questioned, it can handle investigation.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@TravelingSAfrican The average atheist is willingly ignorant. I mean you believe anything is possible but god. That is ignorance at its greatest. You come out and say god does not exist because we can't find him. You come out and say its a fact there is no god yet you haven't died and risen from the dead, you haven't visited all the galaxies and you have no clue what is outside of the universe. This my friend is ignorance at its finest.
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@TravelingSAfrican I don't need luck, luck is not involved in the truth. I wish i had just 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the luck the religion of evolution has, i would win lotto at least 100 times. :)
WombatGully3000 1 week ago
@WombatGully3000 Got me? Haha! We clearly have very different views on what "Got ya!" implies. Willingly ignorant? You're a funny, funny guy, I'll give you that much. As an atheists I question everything that goes on around me and you are stupid enough to call me ignorant? Haha. Stupidity is truly running rampant on Youtube today! As a christian you are spoon-fed what you should believe, what you should think, what you can and cannot do, who you can and cannot judge.
TravelingSAfrican 1 week ago