Unicef: 500,000 children (including sanctions, collateral effects of war). "[As of 1999] [c]hildren under 5 years of age are dying at more than twice the rate they were ten years ago."
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Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark: 1.5 million (includes sanctions, bombs and other weapons, depleted uranium poisoning)
The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs, and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure. Almost all US military are christians, so I guess bombing for jesus is OK?
@geezusispan well Iraq attacking kuwait and Saudi which made saudi sunni's to call for help from the US army Christians .
Iraq attacked Iran 8 years war No US came because it did not matter for the SUNNi Arab. Israel was attacked by all Arab countries No US came. dont seem to matter for you.
do you think the world will not see the lies you are spreading.
You are a moron..... and will never make it to any heaven.
There are 30 US military bases surrounding Iran. Yet, the US "news" is carping on the threat to the west. I'll believe Iran is a threat when they surround the US with military bases. It's all about the oil, period.
@geezusispan LOL. Islam said taliban will never loose .. then they did. they said they will never take Iraq then they did.... Now you want to help they Shia Iran which most Sunni's despice lol... Islam will END. Mecca will FALL , Yes it is little bit about Oil but when USA and other countires find alternative fuel .. what do saudi's have .. NOTHING
Unless Islam is not eradicated form this world the world will never see peace. You can keep debating about peaceful Islam and all that .. But while you debate and try to make sense to Muslims .. Thousand's of Non-Muslims are dying all around the world because Of Islam, shame on you to Think The lost boy's of Sudan does not deserve their voice to be heard. Hindu Sikh's Buddhists all around the world is suffering. Their voice is not terrorizing enough for the UN?
This is very clever and subtle war propaganda. Dehumanizing Muslims in the minds of viewers in the Neocons' endless quest to "manufacture consent" for costly and damaging wars in the Middle East... wars which serve very little practical purpose for the vast majority of Americans.
These wars do, however, funnel enormous amounts of taxpayers' dollars into the defense contractors and war profiteers. Eisenhower tried to warn us about the Military Industrial Complex...
@bobshenix Tell that to the Non-Muslims around the world that suffer everyday. Shame on you .. to think that Non-muslims has no value who are suffering around the world because of Islam in your eye's SHAME ON YOU.
So because i don't support endless wars -- the sort of which have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians -- and/or sanctions which starve entire villages to death (whether by design or not), that automatically means i think "non-Muslims have no value"??
I am not even Muslim, and for that matter i don't think they belong in Europe... but what is going on in the Middle East is wrong. The media is misleading people to support another costly war.
@bobshenix that is why you support Islam duty of jihad to kill non-msulims around the world .. thank you for clearing that up. now you can kill some kid's and go to you virgin heaven
i think it would be easier to burn every koran, put internet filters in place to delete "muslim" and "islam" and just erase this gutter POS posing as a religion off the face of the planet. then giving anyone who speaks the name of mohammed a bacon cheeseburger... works for me!
@mrbadx19 Why not just get rid of religion all together? It's all bullshit and the main cause of most problems worldwide anyway. Christians are just as bad, if not more annoying in their "crusading ventures". At least I know what to expect with islamotards.
@Andy152R i'm basically for that, i am an atheist, i'm just not militant in my atheism. i'll debate any christian or muslim, etc. i have a "fish" emblem on my car with " 'n chips" inside it :)
Most child maltreatment deaths result from physical abuse, esp. children receiving injuries to their heads. The next most common cause of physical abuse deaths is punches or kicks to the abdomen, leading to internal bleeding. Other forms of fatal physical abuse include immersion into hot water, drowning and smothering.Fathers and mothers’ boyfriends are most often the perpetrators in the abuse deaths; mothers are more often at fault in the neglect fatalities.
It is reported that more than 2,000 children in the U.S. die of child abuse and neglect each year, and the actual number of abuse and neglect deaths is estimated to be much higher than that reported by vital statistics data.
Why does anyone bother listening to this indecisive shithead? He was born Jewish then he was agnostic and now he is Christian. First he was liberal then he was a conservative and now he is a libertarian.
Folks, if you don't like what this turnip is saying don't worry.
I always get a giggle when Christians talk about sensitivity and civility when protesting about the spilling of innocent blood. Over 2 centuries of war, devastation, racism, hatred, religious persecution and the wide spread destruction of indigenous cultures from Asia to America and these guys are going to lecture us?
@geezusispan What you're forgetting, or just not grasping is that I'm not talking about the US. I'm talking about Islam. The US could be torturing children and feeding them to pitbulls and jerking off to it on national TV. That doesn't make Islam any less evil. Nice try with the red herring.
@geezusispan I didn't say I didn't care about US behavior, my point was that the US being assholes has nothing to do with the horrible things Muslims to to their own people. If the US is indeed murdering people = they should be stopped, if the Muslims are indeed murdering people = they should be stopped. You may as well bring up that the Aztecs murdered many people, what does that have to do with Islam?
The indiscriminate use of bombs by the US, usually outside a declared war situation, for wanton destruction, for no military objectives, whose targets and victims are civilian populations, or what we now call "collateral damage." Japan (1945) China (1945-46) Korea & China (1950-53) Guatemala (1954, 1960, 1967-69) Indonesia (1958) Cuba (1959-61) Congo (1964) Peru (1965)
@geezusispan It is within the nature of man to be violent. While you are pointing out agression by the USA, I noticed that you did not point out the agression of China, the USSR, Iraq, Iran, Great Brittian, Somalia, Ethiopia, Uganda, Rhodesia, Sudan, etc. I home you get my point. One man once said that the only time we have had peace was when people were pausing to reload their weapons.
"lol" yourself. Nice cop out, though. I guess you don't know what "burden of proof" means, then. Glad I didn't waste more of my time fighting with a moron.
Stop defending the death cult of islam. Forget numbers killed, it's those who are alive in those countries that are the real victims. FFS they put battery acid in the face of little girls for daring to learn how to read. How fucking assbackwards can people be? US planes bombed and killed a lot of nazis too, that didn't make nazi ideology correct, neither does it rationalize islam's evil. If the US is indeed murdering people unjustly that is a separate issue, islam is still a death cult.
@geezusispan imagine what would happen if muslims were no longer given special privledges and allowed to abuse their religion, imagine if, by coming to western countrys you lost the ability to practice certain parts of your religion which generally make life more difficult? would that not be a much better society for the whole?
@geezusispan All Muslims don't have to carry out inhuman acts for Islam to be a death cult, just as all Nazis don't have to directly kill a Jew for the Nazi ideology to be fucked. There may indeed be peaceful Muslims, but I have seen enough acts of brutality from them and regularly enough that it is reasonable to judge the religion by its fruits.
@Khyrid Death cult? How about a religion that glorifies it's hero god's crucifixion? Christians have killed more people than any other religion on the planet. Like Islam not all christians are killers, but given any opportunity they swarm on any other culture......... kind of like YOU!
@geezusispan What Christians did in the past is not as relevant as what Muslims are doing now. Bringing up past crimes of Christians only strengthens my point. I am against all religion.
I know your small mind can't grasp this, but there are real people now that are suffering because of the Muslim ideology, and while you play high and mighty, thinking that you're standing up for some downtrodden people's rights by defending a worthless religion, I am arguing for human beings.
@Khyrid says - What Christians did in the past is not as relevant
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Really? How about invading Afghanistan, killing in Pakistan or bombing Iraq back to the stone age? Did you know that the VAST majority of the US military are christians? Did you notice all the recent INVASIONS are in Muslim countries? Maybe they have a reason to be pissed... namely, christian soldiers are killing people in their countries!
@geezusispan The people we kill are enemy combatants, if one of our soldiers kills a civilian they are court-martialed so fast their head spins, despite what conspiracy theorist may say. We have the strictest rules of engagement. What we don't do is stones girls to death for being raped, melt their face with acid for learning to read, cut off hands for stealing, hang for being homosexual, gouge out eyes for speaking bad about Islam, kill for burning books etc. Sorry, Islam is awful.
Unicef figured in 1999 that the sanctions after "Desert Storm" caused the deaths of 1 million Iraqi CHILDREN! Since 2003 the Iraqi death toll is ofically estimated to be 110,000. All of that crapaganda about american soldiers only killing "enemy combatants" is a lie.
@geezusispan "Unicef figured in 1999 that the sanctions after "Desert Storm" caused the deaths of 1 million Iraqi CHILDREN!" Yes but only becuase Saddam co-opt the Oil For Food program to illegally refill his war coffers you fucking moron. The UN confirmed that.
It's one thing to make a valid point. It's entirely another to be intellectually dishonest and cherry pick your data.
The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs,and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure.
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sources:Edwin E. Moïse. "Limited War : The Stereotypes". Clemson University. Retrieved 2010-07-02. AND
@geezusispan The US spends millions on highly accurate munitions for the specific purpose of reducing civilian casualties as much as possible. If that were not the case then we would have simply utilized high altitude aerial bombing as was done in Germany back in 45. If you are truly so fucking stupid as to believe this bullshit please compare images of Germany in 45 with Iraq in 2003.
Simply put, there is no excuse for your stupidity.
@Khyrid "The people we kill are enemy combatants, if one of our soldiers kills a civilian they are court-martialed so fast their head spins, despite what conspiracy theorist may say." Not entirely true. Court martials are serious business so there is an investigation period.
You can also add that we don't mutilate a woman's sexual organs to prevent promiscuity.
If you'll notice, Saddam was a Muslim who killed other Muslims.The U.S. military, which is mainly Christian, decided to place themselves between innocent civilians and the people who are shooting at the innocent civilians.Note how the Saudi's asked us to keep troops in their nation as guests to protect them from threats, and how we make travel/shipping safe for everyone in the region.Must be those evil Christians being all evil and Christian with their regard for life.
@vtc193 really now is that why we did'nt go to war with saddam till he invaded kuwait and disrupted our oil supplys? we only went for our own economic interests
@GUNS4MIKE1234 See, this is what just pissed me off. Complete ignorance. You do realize that at no time has Kuwait ever ranked within the top 10 oil exporters to the US, right? You should also realize that Iraq has consistently been one of our top 10 oil sources.
If the Iraq invasion was for oil then Canada would have been a far better choice as they are our #1 oil provider. They are also far more easier to invade and occupy.
@vtc193 If you'll notice, Saddam was a Muslim who killed other Muslims.The U.S. military, which is mainly Christian, decided to place themselves between innocent civilians and the people who are shooting at the innocent civilians.
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Such horseshit..... The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs, and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure.[
@vtc193 "Must be those evil Christians being all evil and Christian with their regard for life" This gives me a giggle. You do realize that the past 20 years does not make up for the past 2,000 right?
Past 20 years? We've been spending our blood to protect other people for a lot longer than that. America was founded on the Christian principles of individual rights from the source of our creator. I have the utmost respect for those who will fight for others and loose their life if necessary. Christian Conservatives seem to do that a lot more than Atheistic Liberals do.
@geezusispan Really? What "resources" does Afghanistan have? As for Iraq, Canada is our largest oil provider. Invading them would have been far cheaper and easier.
Do you believe the U.S. government paid Osama to attack us so we would have a reason to invade, or is that too crazy even for your world view? Seeing as how we didn't gain a single drop of oil from Iraq, and we can't even get them to buy our rice; I think you need to rethink your ideology. Afghanistan is strategically irrelevant and has almost no resources. The only reason there was to invade was to kill terrorists.
Western companies are pumping oil out of Iraq right NOW! The oil companies didn't even have to pay for the soldiers to invade Iraq, the US citizen tax payers paid for it and sent their own children...pretty funny, huh? Afghanistan produces 90% of the worlds heroin and is on the eastern flank of Iran. Remember when they discovered it is also rich in minerals? All wars are for economic reasons. You have no understanding of the world view, just US propaganda.
I said "We", not "Western". The United States has not gained economically from the war in Iraq. Last time I checked, the U.S. government is not a big fan of opiates. The discoveries of vast Lithium reserves are much more recent, and unless you believe the U.S. government has a time machine, there was no way that we could have acted on that information in the past. Economics is not the only reason for war, but yes; War never Changes.
You are either naive or just stupid if you believe all the US government propaganda. The US has 30 military bases surrounding Iran right NOW. At the same time they are talking about Iran being such a threat. The US military is a money making machine, for SOME people, in fact the US government is a money making machine for SOME people. Open your eyes...
@geezusispan I disagree when you say all wars are for economic reasons. Mainly because the Islam nations have begun tossing the word "Jihad" around. Read a couple verses of the Quaran and you'll see how every non-Islamic nation needs to join the fight against the radical Islam nations. They're objective is to 1-destroy America, their "Big Satan", and 2- Place the entire world under a single Islamic rule.
@0823Snowman Islam poses no threat to the rest of the world, at least no more than the christian fundamentalists... It's all propaganda, an excuse for stealing their resources.
@geezusispan Except for the fact that Christian fundamentalists don't murder people who believe differently or damage Christian Icons. The US Military burned bibles sent to them by religious groups in the US, just to dispose of them. People murdered by Christian Fundamentalists-0. Afghani workers burned Quran's thrown out by US troops after being written on by terror detainees. People murdered by Muslim fundamentalists-27, including 6 US troops... none of whom burned Qurans.
@geezusispan You mean during the crusades? The crusades were called because Muslims were marching on already Christian held lands and slaughtering MILLIONS of Christians and Jews. But that's neither here nor there, the Crusaders slaughtered them right back. If you're talking about the Liberation of Iraq lead by a coalition of UN forces, those killed by the "invaders" were armed militants who attacked the coalition forces.
No I didn't say anything about crusades, at least it wasn't officially called that. The official names are desert Storm and The Iraq war. At least 1 million civilians were killed.....
@geezusispan And who killed those civilians? ARMED INSURGENTS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ATTEMPTING TO ATTACK COALITION TROOPS! The UN coalition that entered Iraq and ousted Saddam Hussein didn't deliberately attack civilian targets. The insurgents from Iran, Libya, Syria and other countries in that region that support terrorist organizations deliberately attacked civilian targets. So, how did the "Christian" soldiers kill these 1 million people?
@sandorsbox The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs, and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure.
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Sanctions against Iraq began August 6, 1990, four days after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, stayed largely in force until May 2003. Unicef states: 500,000 children (including sanctions, collateral effects of war) died before 1999.
@geezusispan The bombing targeted military structures and vehicles. Civilian casualties occurred, but they were not deliberate. The children who died did so because SADDAM HUSSEIN'S REGIME DID NOT DISTRIBUTE THE FOOD THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM FOR THE CHILDREN. Don't throw the death toll of children in my face when it was their own dictator who did it.
I'm done with you - Even facts can't shake your belief in the evil of preemptively invading other countries as a wonderful US blessing. Keep your head buried in the sand, you wouldn't want see the reality...
@geezusispan No, you're the one who won't listen to facts. The facts are that Saddam Hussein is the one who's control caused the suffering of his people. Promised food aid was delivered to his authorities but never given out to the people. The US NEVER bombed civilian targets. Hussein and his ilk certainly never seemed shy about hiding in hospitals and schools to try and prevent enemies from attacking. Who is the true monster? People like him know we're loathe to strike such places.
@vtc193 Ok, 1st, the US was in no way found upon Christian ANYTHING so please stop with this idiotic bullshit claim as it has been dealt with in every manner possible. This is a secular nation and the founding fathers were secularists. Religious freedom is no a Christian virtue. More over, there is no religious test for public office. Plus, the fact that legislation passed right after the US was ratified expressly states that the US Was in no way founded on the Christian religion 1/2
@vtc193 all adds up to show that your bullshit claims have no basis in fact. Our founding fathers despised the Christian religion. In 1797 Jefferson wrote "[Our] principles [are] founded on the immovable basis of equal right and reason." No mention of religion at all there. Here are some more quotes. "History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government." "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty."
@vtc193 Now, as to your completely idioitic claim that christian fight for the rights of others this is incredible bullshit. Spanish Inquisition. Forced conversion by missionaries. Plundering and pillaging indigenous civilizaitons to spread the word of god?
@geezusispan Let's see. . . Hitler was a pagan socialist and he killed 6+ million. Stalin was a communist and he was responsible for 10-20 million. Pol Pot is responsible for hundred's of thousands, possibly millions. Chairman Mao killed millions of Chineese. Going back in history, we have the Aztec's and Mayans, Atilla the Hun, Ghengis Kahn of the Mongols, and so on. It is man that kills, nor his ideologies. They just use these ideas as excuses to perpetuate their blood lust.
@wrweeks1234 "Hitler was a pagan socialist..." Uh dead wrong on the pagan part assmaggot. Hitler was deeply religious and often and openly stated that his drive to kill the Jews was ordained by god. Aztec's and Mayan's were highly religious people and often used human sacrifice to appease their gods for a multitude of reasons. Ghengis Khan likewise sacrified humans and felt he was given a grant by god to conquer. Hirohito believed he was the son of god.
@Khyrid So im a atheist can I judge all religions as shit since they are? Christians are just as stupid except the muslums follow there holy book word for word christians don't even know whats in there bible most of the time.
My point is, obviously, that the US does worse shit than all the Islamic countries combined.
Kills more people, invades more countries, supports more dictators. Since we live in the US, it IS important. So how are you justified in pointing a finger at Islam when YOU live in a worse country?
Here's a fun fact: Every year, more than 2,000 children in the U.S. are killed by their
parents or guardians either through abuse or neglect. Which Islamic countries have you lived in?
@geezusispan So because the US is terrible then the Muslims should pour acid on little girl's faces? That becomes an okay thing to do? I don't exactly swallow your anti-US propaganda but even if it was true that doesn't make the death cult of Islam a good thing. It would just mean we have a horrible country bombing people and a horrible ideology (Islam) executing people.
You live in a country that it's military kills thousands of times more civilians than Islamic countries, but insist that the topic is how bad Islam is. Children are abused and killed in the US every day, but you want to point out how awful Islam is. You do know that Islam is just like christianity, it means something different to every member. I live on the same block as Somalian Muslims. They haven't hurt anyone in 15 years.
@Khyrid I agree. But if you are and Islamic Muslim you cannot be a person of peace. The entire Islamic religion is based on ridding the world of all opposition. It's in the Quaran and the Bible both. I realize there are peaceful people who think they're Islamic, but they've just been taught that they're Islamic. Kind of like the Christians who are pro-choice and pro-gay (sorry guys, that ain't me!)
@0823Snowman Christ said that the greatest commandment was to Love God and the second most important was Love your neighbor. You cannot be a Christian and hate someone because they're gay. That's going against Christ's teachings. I denounce all "Christians" who hate anyone.
@Dunbarick Do you remember the first oil war in the 90s? Bush I was st the helm , Basra was carpet bombed by B-52s. Then came the bombing of "military targets", you know bridges power plants, government buildings and 15 years of sanctions cutting off medicine and food for children and adults. There are no official US reports of the numbers killed, of course. They wouldn't want o upset the sheeple.
@geezusispan thanks for admiting you have no basis whatsovever for your numbers of "millions killed". I would suggest going forward you not make outrageous claims with no substantiation.
The 'official" numbers are over 110,000 Iraqis killed since 2003. There was the Bush Oil; War I started in 1990. The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs. During the latter part of the 1990s the UN considered relaxing the sanctions imposed because of the hardships suffered by ordinary Iraqis.
@Dunbarick cont - During the latter part of the 1990s the UN considered relaxing the sanctions imposed because of the hardships suffered by ordinary Iraqis. According to UN estimates, between 500,000 and 1.2 million children died during the years of the sanctions
Source - "Iraq surveys show 'humanitarian emergency'". Wednesday, 12 August 1999. Retrieved 29 November 2009. unicef(dot)org/newsline/99pr29(dot)htm
@Dunbarick You're kidding right? Google it, there's documents and even soldiers who have admitted in killing families . Do you think all those bombs we dorpped for the last 10 years just killed so called "terrorists'? No, we killed millions!
@RonaldPaulstein Your videos about Islam's barbaric teachings are no different then that of judaism. The difference is, the jews control the majority of the world, via the ways I explained earlier. Look at what they've done with it. They are turning this world into a one world capitalistic republic. They are working to enslave the world, once and for all. That is what the Middle East is fighting. Islam is just their alternative to have no religion at all. It doesn't mean they want to practice
@RonaldPaulstein Capitalism uses wall street to succeed. Wall Street controls the rate of inflation by controlling the "bubble effect". You too pay the higher and higher prices of inflation. Soon, $100,000 a year will be the equivalent to $30,000, or worse. Intrinsic value is how Wall Street operates. With intrinsic value, comes the "bubble effect". This never ending cycle inevitably devalues the dollar.
@RonaldPaulstein Capitalism is privatized means of production, which is basically privatized dictatorship/ slavery. If the goal is to always be accumulating financial capital, then the public's, as well as the workers' best interests are not being taken into consideration. Capitalism is a disease.
@TheWanderinSoul WATCH those econ. videos I linked. Under a pure Capitalist system there can be no monopolies. All monopolies are created by an act of Government intervention, i.e. Socialism.
Pure Capitalism is the absense of Government regulation in private business. The U.S. does not now practice pure Capitalism, we do have some Government regulation, and it is that regulation which is vulnerable to special interest and creates problems.
@RonaldPaulstein "Pure Capitalism is the absense of Government regulation in private business."
Right, we should run our economy on the "honor system"....... If there is no regulation, how the hell do you propose that monopolies won't be created.
@RonaldPaulstein With jews, we are seeing the talmud being acted out everyday. The only difference between radical Muslims, and radical jews, are their economical and political power.
@TheWanderinSoul I've never read the Talmud, most Jews have not. Only Orthodox Jews read those books and they are almost never rich people.
Us secular, liberal, non-religious Jews are the "zionists."
You can't nit-pick about the Talmud, which is a very old book, to proclaim that somehow "Jews control the world" -- that's Saudi Arabian State Education at work. They teach that in school over there.
You think the Bible doesn't day evil things about Jews? The Koran? LOL!!!
@RonaldPaulstein "You can't nit-pick about the Talmud, which is a very old book, to proclaim that somehow Jews control the world"
The important part is that your leaders are doing things that are permitted in the talmud. It's just an example of their means of control. I have clearly stated that their control is solidified through government, world banks, umbrella conglomerates, monopolizing resources, all forms of media, ect.
@RonaldPaulstein "Believing in stuff like that is easier than critically thinking"
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You think I got here by NOT thinking critically? Critical thinking is what tells me how full of shit you are. That's why you just keep calling it Arab propaganda, rather than raising counterclaims.
@RonaldPaulstein You can't nit-pick about the Qur'an, which is a very old book, to proclaim that somehow "Muslims want to control the world" -- that's israeli state education at work. They teach that in school over there.
@RonaldPaulstein Right, because I haven't been able to intelligently articulate myself this entire time. My typos are pale, in comparison to your horrible grammatical skills, and mentally challenged critical thinking process.
But, keep pretending that you have made even one valid point, this entire time.
@TheWanderinSoul Go watch my playlist entitled "Islam," it's over five and a half hours of pure Evil. Go watch that. It's not propaganda, most of it's directly from Arab television in the Middle East.
Watch it and then come back here and argue. If you still champion the cause of "Palestine" after watching the playlist, you are either one of them or so totally afraid of them that you will do anything to keep out of their way.
@RonaldPaulstein There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims, and only 14 million jews. The jews have more political, and economical power than ANY other group. You have used that power to cause the irrational behavior that you are now "fighting". Their acts of desperation may not be condonable, but they are certainly understandable.
@TheWanderinSoul Whatever. We fight them because we are forced to do so. They are not forced or obligated to attack us. The Koran encourages them to perform "Jihad" against infidels, claim territory in the name of Allah, and convert everyone to Islam and/or subjugate them under the rule of Islam as a "dhimmi", or second-class citizen.
The history of Islam is short and bloody. It is an expansionist, aggressive ideology, and is the enemy of the entire free world.
@RonaldPaulstein "The Koran encourages them to perform "Jihad" against infidels, claim territory in the name of Allah, and convert everyone to Islam and/or subjugate them under the rule of Islam as a "dhimmi", or second-class citizen."
As apposed to the talmud encouraging jews to perform a "holy" war against not only Islam, but any not supporter of judaism? As apposed to jews claiming land in the name of YHWH?
@RonaldPaulstein As apposed to jews trying to subjugate everyone, under the rule of judaism, as a "goyim" or animals? At least the Muslims will treat you equally when you convert.
The history of judaism is long and bloody. It is an expansionist, aggressive ideology, and is the enemy of the entire free world.
@RonaldPaulstein Furthermore, their governments are trying to maintain control of their uprising citizens. Only people with money, and political power, can run those kinds of shows. Those shows do not depict the overall sentiment of the followers of Islam. They want peace. They want to be left alone. You won't give them that. This is what has resulted. You made your bed. Now, lie in it.
@RonaldPaulstein "The Arab-Muslim world has big problems, and most of them have nothing to do with Israel, America or the West. The problem is: ISLAM"
No. Islam's biggest problem is the assholes, like the jews, who use the US and israel to fight their genocidal war, as depicted in judaic texts.
@TheWanderinSoul Your midguided views about Jews are the exact same views and logic which is championed by so-called "white-supremacist" groups, the Aryan Nation, KKK, and the American Nazi party.
It is also equally championed by Arab-Muslims, especially those of Middle Eastern origin as it is actually taught as being fact in many Arab nations, mainly Saudi and Egypt. And Gaza.
You're not in with a good crowd. Many of the people in your camp are fanatical hate-mongers.
@RonaldPaulstein "You're not in with a good crowd. Many of the people in your camp are fanatical hate-mongers."
Those philosophies do not change the validity of my claims. Furthermore, I am not a racist. Now, raise a damn counterclaim already. You haven't countered ANYTHING I have said.
@TheWanderinSoul You're never called upon to disprove something which has not been, in fact, proven.
I am not required to disprove that "Jews control the world," you are required to prove that if you want to assert it as truth.
Your arguments are based on slanderous generalizations, sloppy and mostly irrelevant "documentation" in the form of very old religious texts, and Arab-Nazi propaganda nonsense.
@RonaldPaulstein "Your arguments are based on slanderous generalizations, sloppy and mostly irrelevant "documentation" in the form of very old religious texts, and Arab-Nazi propaganda nonsense."
Then prove it, you ignorant jackass. I've made claims. Counter them.
Is that you don't understand critical thinking, or are you just hoping your potential audience doesn't?
@TheWanderinSoul But the "claim" you have made is fundamentally invalid and without proof. Nobody is expected to counter a bogus claim.
If you want to assert a genuine argument then do so, but you've actually got to be able to prove that the argument is genuine and based in logical, factual information and not hysterical paranoid conspiracy theory nonsense.
@RonaldPaulstein "But the "claim" you have made is fundamentally invalid"
Then address the claim you believe is invalid. I have already explained how jews control the world. The jews are the largest contributors of American political campaigns. Those politicians do what their sponsors say. They control the majority of media outlets. They own most the banks. They run the federal reserve. They use the kosher tax and their umbrella conglomerates to monopolize resources.
And none of what you have just said implies anything illegal.
By the way, films like this: watch?v=yl8g8S6F3do are *not* propaganda, it's straight up Arab television. They made this, not us. It's the truth.
This is a war against Islam on behalf of the West. All your talk is conspiracy theory nonsense. We are fighting against the spread of Islam, and we shall prevail.
Love this video....Hit the nail on the head...
ClarksonsinUSA 6 hours ago
Islam is just like all religions, people follow the parts they like. It's only real danger is as a propaganda tool for western countries.
geezusispan 1 day ago
Islamophobia - the irrational fear of being decapitated.
Even though I don't agree, you had me there...
RdMrcr 2 days ago
I think this was the only class George W Bush passed.
travismays 2 days ago
Estimates of deaths due to sanctions in Iraq -
Unicef: 500,000 children (including sanctions, collateral effects of war). "[As of 1999] [c]hildren under 5 years of age are dying at more than twice the rate they were ten years ago."
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Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark: 1.5 million (includes sanctions, bombs and other weapons, depleted uranium poisoning)
Who is the real threat to who?
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan Where do you get your numbers
urbman29 5 days ago
@urbman29
Copy the quote and paste into Google, it's time you learned the modern ease of research....
geezusispan 5 days ago
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The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs, and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure. Almost all US military are christians, so I guess bombing for jesus is OK?
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan well Iraq attacking kuwait and Saudi which made saudi sunni's to call for help from the US army Christians .
Iraq attacked Iran 8 years war No US came because it did not matter for the SUNNi Arab. Israel was attacked by all Arab countries No US came. dont seem to matter for you.
do you think the world will not see the lies you are spreading.
insideVoice101 5 days ago
@insideVoice101
Is English your second language? I'm not really understanding your gibberish.
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan thank you for your grammar Jihad. Now go kill some kid's and go to your Virgin Heaven .
insideVoice101 4 days ago
@insideVoice101
You are a moron..... and will never make it to any heaven.
There are 30 US military bases surrounding Iran. Yet, the US "news" is carping on the threat to the west. I'll believe Iran is a threat when they surround the US with military bases. It's all about the oil, period.
geezusispan 4 days ago
@geezusispan LOL. Islam said taliban will never loose .. then they did. they said they will never take Iraq then they did.... Now you want to help they Shia Iran which most Sunni's despice lol... Islam will END. Mecca will FALL , Yes it is little bit about Oil but when USA and other countires find alternative fuel .. what do saudi's have .. NOTHING
insideVoice101 3 days ago
Unless Islam is not eradicated form this world the world will never see peace. You can keep debating about peaceful Islam and all that .. But while you debate and try to make sense to Muslims .. Thousand's of Non-Muslims are dying all around the world because Of Islam, shame on you to Think The lost boy's of Sudan does not deserve their voice to be heard. Hindu Sikh's Buddhists all around the world is suffering. Their voice is not terrorizing enough for the UN?
insideVoice101 5 days ago
Iraq attacked Iran USA did not come, the world did not care, Israel was attacked by all Arab Nation's the world stood and watched,
Iraq attacked kuwait and Saudi .. their come's USA .. Saudi[SUNNI] with their oil has made American and UN Politics their personal Dhimmi's.
insideVoice101 5 days ago
This is very clever and subtle war propaganda. Dehumanizing Muslims in the minds of viewers in the Neocons' endless quest to "manufacture consent" for costly and damaging wars in the Middle East... wars which serve very little practical purpose for the vast majority of Americans.
These wars do, however, funnel enormous amounts of taxpayers' dollars into the defense contractors and war profiteers. Eisenhower tried to warn us about the Military Industrial Complex...
bobshenix 5 days ago
@bobshenix Tell that to the Non-Muslims around the world that suffer everyday. Shame on you .. to think that Non-muslims has no value who are suffering around the world because of Islam in your eye's SHAME ON YOU.
insideVoice101 5 days ago
@insideVoice101
So because i don't support endless wars -- the sort of which have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians -- and/or sanctions which starve entire villages to death (whether by design or not), that automatically means i think "non-Muslims have no value"??
I am not even Muslim, and for that matter i don't think they belong in Europe... but what is going on in the Middle East is wrong. The media is misleading people to support another costly war.
bobshenix 5 days ago
@bobshenix that is why you support Islam duty of jihad to kill non-msulims around the world .. thank you for clearing that up. now you can kill some kid's and go to you virgin heaven
insideVoice101 4 days ago
i think it would be easier to burn every koran, put internet filters in place to delete "muslim" and "islam" and just erase this gutter POS posing as a religion off the face of the planet. then giving anyone who speaks the name of mohammed a bacon cheeseburger... works for me!
mrbadx19 5 days ago 12
@mrbadx19 Ahhh, nothing says freedom like a book burning.
MandragGanon 3 days ago
@MandragGanon ummm, a video of wiping my ass with the koran wouldn't make it to youtube...
mrbadx19 3 days ago
@mrbadx19 Why not just get rid of religion all together? It's all bullshit and the main cause of most problems worldwide anyway. Christians are just as bad, if not more annoying in their "crusading ventures". At least I know what to expect with islamotards.
Andy152R 23 hours ago
@Andy152R i'm basically for that, i am an atheist, i'm just not militant in my atheism. i'll debate any christian or muslim, etc. i have a "fish" emblem on my car with " 'n chips" inside it :)
mrbadx19 20 hours ago
@mrbadx19 I'm not militant either, but I do see the problems it causes. I understand and agree with you. :)
Andy152R 17 hours ago
@mrbadx19 Musilms have memorized the quran from cover to cover. Just for your information.
grabbelbabbel 8 hours ago
cont -
Most child maltreatment deaths result from physical abuse, esp. children receiving injuries to their heads. The next most common cause of physical abuse deaths is punches or kicks to the abdomen, leading to internal bleeding. Other forms of fatal physical abuse include immersion into hot water, drowning and smothering.Fathers and mothers’ boyfriends are most often the perpetrators in the abuse deaths; mothers are more often at fault in the neglect fatalities.
childdeathreview(dot)org
geezusispan 1 week ago
It is reported that more than 2,000 children in the U.S. die of child abuse and neglect each year, and the actual number of abuse and neglect deaths is estimated to be much higher than that reported by vital statistics data.
geezusispan 1 week ago
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Why does anyone bother listening to this indecisive shithead? He was born Jewish then he was agnostic and now he is Christian. First he was liberal then he was a conservative and now he is a libertarian.
Folks, if you don't like what this turnip is saying don't worry.
Tomorrow he will be saying the exact opposite.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
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I always get a giggle when Christians talk about sensitivity and civility when protesting about the spilling of innocent blood. Over 2 centuries of war, devastation, racism, hatred, religious persecution and the wide spread destruction of indigenous cultures from Asia to America and these guys are going to lecture us?
Fucking hysterical.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
anyway
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geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan What you're forgetting, or just not grasping is that I'm not talking about the US. I'm talking about Islam. The US could be torturing children and feeding them to pitbulls and jerking off to it on national TV. That doesn't make Islam any less evil. Nice try with the red herring.
Khyrid 1 week ago
@Khyrid What do you really know about Islam? What they told you on the TV? Have you ever lived in a Muslim country?
So you don't care if the US behavior is worse than Islam? That's a little odd....
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan I didn't say I didn't care about US behavior, my point was that the US being assholes has nothing to do with the horrible things Muslims to to their own people. If the US is indeed murdering people = they should be stopped, if the Muslims are indeed murdering people = they should be stopped. You may as well bring up that the Aztecs murdered many people, what does that have to do with Islam?
Khyrid 1 week ago
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan It is within the nature of man to be violent. While you are pointing out agression by the USA, I noticed that you did not point out the agression of China, the USSR, Iraq, Iran, Great Brittian, Somalia, Ethiopia, Uganda, Rhodesia, Sudan, etc. I home you get my point. One man once said that the only time we have had peace was when people were pausing to reload their weapons.
wrweeks1234 1 week ago
@wrweeks1234 You forgot Israel or is that included as the ect??
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@geezusispan Japan was indiscriminate use of bombs? Oy, another fuckstick with zero historical perspective. The rest of your list is equally idiotic.
It's sad to see so many self-hating Americans. You're a truly lost and clueless group.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
I feel bad for the poor bastards who take this seriously. lol
keilxkey2255 1 week ago
@keilxkey2255 can you refute it?????
xerakis 1 week ago
@xerakis
it's not my damn video! why don't you ask yourself if you can refute it!
keilxkey2255 1 week ago
@keilxkey2255 lol...then don't make comments about the muslim garbage if you can't back it up punk...
xerakis 1 week ago
@xerakis
"lol" yourself. Nice cop out, though. I guess you don't know what "burden of proof" means, then. Glad I didn't waste more of my time fighting with a moron.
keilxkey2255 1 week ago
@keilxkey2255 ok ok go eat some more govt cheese and get back to your Lenin....lol, your pathetic and you know it, so weak. LMAO
xerakis 1 week ago
the irrational fear of being decapitated. Love it
bloodypimpernel 1 week ago
Stop defending the death cult of islam. Forget numbers killed, it's those who are alive in those countries that are the real victims. FFS they put battery acid in the face of little girls for daring to learn how to read. How fucking assbackwards can people be? US planes bombed and killed a lot of nazis too, that didn't make nazi ideology correct, neither does it rationalize islam's evil. If the US is indeed murdering people unjustly that is a separate issue, islam is still a death cult.
Khyrid 1 week ago
@Khyrid It is standard procedure to demonize the enemy with a propaganda campaign. Pay attention...
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan That has no bearing on if they are evil or not.
Khyrid 1 week ago
@Khyrid
Do you think you can lump all Muslims into one word, and that word is evil?
Does your brain function at all?
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan imagine what would happen if muslims were no longer given special privledges and allowed to abuse their religion, imagine if, by coming to western countrys you lost the ability to practice certain parts of your religion which generally make life more difficult? would that not be a much better society for the whole?
Adv3z 1 week ago
@Adv3z
Why would repressing Muslims be better for society? What special privileges do you think they receive?
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan I bet you lump all Nazis into one word also huh?
Khyrid 1 week ago
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@geezusispan I bet you lump all Nazis into one word also huh?
Khyrid 1 week ago
@geezusispan All Muslims don't have to carry out inhuman acts for Islam to be a death cult, just as all Nazis don't have to directly kill a Jew for the Nazi ideology to be fucked. There may indeed be peaceful Muslims, but I have seen enough acts of brutality from them and regularly enough that it is reasonable to judge the religion by its fruits.
Khyrid 1 week ago 12
@Khyrid Amen!!!
xerakis 1 week ago
@Khyrid Death cult? How about a religion that glorifies it's hero god's crucifixion? Christians have killed more people than any other religion on the planet. Like Islam not all christians are killers, but given any opportunity they swarm on any other culture......... kind of like YOU!
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan What Christians did in the past is not as relevant as what Muslims are doing now. Bringing up past crimes of Christians only strengthens my point. I am against all religion.
I know your small mind can't grasp this, but there are real people now that are suffering because of the Muslim ideology, and while you play high and mighty, thinking that you're standing up for some downtrodden people's rights by defending a worthless religion, I am arguing for human beings.
Khyrid 1 week ago
@Khyrid says - What Christians did in the past is not as relevant
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Really? How about invading Afghanistan, killing in Pakistan or bombing Iraq back to the stone age? Did you know that the VAST majority of the US military are christians? Did you notice all the recent INVASIONS are in Muslim countries? Maybe they have a reason to be pissed... namely, christian soldiers are killing people in their countries!
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan The people we kill are enemy combatants, if one of our soldiers kills a civilian they are court-martialed so fast their head spins, despite what conspiracy theorist may say. We have the strictest rules of engagement. What we don't do is stones girls to death for being raped, melt their face with acid for learning to read, cut off hands for stealing, hang for being homosexual, gouge out eyes for speaking bad about Islam, kill for burning books etc. Sorry, Islam is awful.
Khyrid 1 week ago
@Khyrid hahahahahahahahah
Unicef figured in 1999 that the sanctions after "Desert Storm" caused the deaths of 1 million Iraqi CHILDREN! Since 2003 the Iraqi death toll is ofically estimated to be 110,000. All of that crapaganda about american soldiers only killing "enemy combatants" is a lie.
geezusispan 1 week ago
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@geezusispan "Unicef figured in 1999 that the sanctions after "Desert Storm" caused the deaths of 1 million Iraqi CHILDREN!" Yes but only becuase Saddam co-opt the Oil For Food program to illegally refill his war coffers you fucking moron. The UN confirmed that.
It's one thing to make a valid point. It's entirely another to be intellectually dishonest and cherry pick your data.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
@Khyrid
The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs,and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure.
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sources:Edwin E. Moïse. "Limited War : The Stereotypes". Clemson University. Retrieved 2010-07-02. AND
^ Operation Desert Storm globalsecurity(dot)com
geezusispan 1 week ago
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@geezusispan The US spends millions on highly accurate munitions for the specific purpose of reducing civilian casualties as much as possible. If that were not the case then we would have simply utilized high altitude aerial bombing as was done in Germany back in 45. If you are truly so fucking stupid as to believe this bullshit please compare images of Germany in 45 with Iraq in 2003.
Simply put, there is no excuse for your stupidity.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
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@Khyrid "The people we kill are enemy combatants, if one of our soldiers kills a civilian they are court-martialed so fast their head spins, despite what conspiracy theorist may say." Not entirely true. Court martials are serious business so there is an investigation period.
You can also add that we don't mutilate a woman's sexual organs to prevent promiscuity.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
@geezusispan
If you'll notice, Saddam was a Muslim who killed other Muslims.The U.S. military, which is mainly Christian, decided to place themselves between innocent civilians and the people who are shooting at the innocent civilians.Note how the Saudi's asked us to keep troops in their nation as guests to protect them from threats, and how we make travel/shipping safe for everyone in the region.Must be those evil Christians being all evil and Christian with their regard for life.
vtc193 1 week ago
@vtc193 really now is that why we did'nt go to war with saddam till he invaded kuwait and disrupted our oil supplys? we only went for our own economic interests
GUNS4MIKE1234 1 week ago
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@GUNS4MIKE1234 See, this is what just pissed me off. Complete ignorance. You do realize that at no time has Kuwait ever ranked within the top 10 oil exporters to the US, right? You should also realize that Iraq has consistently been one of our top 10 oil sources.
If the Iraq invasion was for oil then Canada would have been a far better choice as they are our #1 oil provider. They are also far more easier to invade and occupy.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
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@vtc193 If you'll notice, Saddam was a Muslim who killed other Muslims.The U.S. military, which is mainly Christian, decided to place themselves between innocent civilians and the people who are shooting at the innocent civilians.
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Such horseshit..... The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs, and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure.[
geezusispan 1 week ago 7
@vtc193 "Must be those evil Christians being all evil and Christian with their regard for life" This gives me a giggle. You do realize that the past 20 years does not make up for the past 2,000 right?
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
@KamekoBruns
Past 20 years? We've been spending our blood to protect other people for a lot longer than that. America was founded on the Christian principles of individual rights from the source of our creator. I have the utmost respect for those who will fight for others and loose their life if necessary. Christian Conservatives seem to do that a lot more than Atheistic Liberals do.
vtc193 6 days ago
@vtc193 The US invade Iraq and Afghanistan, to steal their resources, not "help the people"!!
You are very naive...
geezusispan 6 days ago
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@geezusispan Really? What "resources" does Afghanistan have? As for Iraq, Canada is our largest oil provider. Invading them would have been far cheaper and easier.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
KamekoBruns 5 days ago
@geezusispan
Do you believe the U.S. government paid Osama to attack us so we would have a reason to invade, or is that too crazy even for your world view? Seeing as how we didn't gain a single drop of oil from Iraq, and we can't even get them to buy our rice; I think you need to rethink your ideology. Afghanistan is strategically irrelevant and has almost no resources. The only reason there was to invade was to kill terrorists.
vtc193 4 days ago 2
@vtc193
Western companies are pumping oil out of Iraq right NOW! The oil companies didn't even have to pay for the soldiers to invade Iraq, the US citizen tax payers paid for it and sent their own children...pretty funny, huh? Afghanistan produces 90% of the worlds heroin and is on the eastern flank of Iran. Remember when they discovered it is also rich in minerals? All wars are for economic reasons. You have no understanding of the world view, just US propaganda.
geezusispan 4 days ago
@geezusispan
I said "We", not "Western". The United States has not gained economically from the war in Iraq. Last time I checked, the U.S. government is not a big fan of opiates. The discoveries of vast Lithium reserves are much more recent, and unless you believe the U.S. government has a time machine, there was no way that we could have acted on that information in the past. Economics is not the only reason for war, but yes; War never Changes.
vtc193 3 days ago
@vtc193
You are either naive or just stupid if you believe all the US government propaganda. The US has 30 military bases surrounding Iran right NOW. At the same time they are talking about Iran being such a threat. The US military is a money making machine, for SOME people, in fact the US government is a money making machine for SOME people. Open your eyes...
geezusispan 3 days ago
@geezusispan I disagree when you say all wars are for economic reasons. Mainly because the Islam nations have begun tossing the word "Jihad" around. Read a couple verses of the Quaran and you'll see how every non-Islamic nation needs to join the fight against the radical Islam nations. They're objective is to 1-destroy America, their "Big Satan", and 2- Place the entire world under a single Islamic rule.
0823Snowman 3 days ago
@0823Snowman Islam poses no threat to the rest of the world, at least no more than the christian fundamentalists... It's all propaganda, an excuse for stealing their resources.
geezusispan 3 days ago
@geezusispan Except for the fact that Christian fundamentalists don't murder people who believe differently or damage Christian Icons. The US Military burned bibles sent to them by religious groups in the US, just to dispose of them. People murdered by Christian Fundamentalists-0. Afghani workers burned Quran's thrown out by US troops after being written on by terror detainees. People murdered by Muslim fundamentalists-27, including 6 US troops... none of whom burned Qurans.
sandorsbox 2 days ago
@sandorsbox Iraqis killed by christian soldiers after they invaded their country is over 1 million.
Muslims aren't even in the same game when it comes to killing. USA, USA, were #1!
geezusispan 2 days ago
@geezusispan You mean during the crusades? The crusades were called because Muslims were marching on already Christian held lands and slaughtering MILLIONS of Christians and Jews. But that's neither here nor there, the Crusaders slaughtered them right back. If you're talking about the Liberation of Iraq lead by a coalition of UN forces, those killed by the "invaders" were armed militants who attacked the coalition forces.
sandorsbox 2 days ago 4
@sandorsbox
No I didn't say anything about crusades, at least it wasn't officially called that. The official names are desert Storm and The Iraq war. At least 1 million civilians were killed.....
geezusispan 2 days ago
@geezusispan And who killed those civilians? ARMED INSURGENTS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ATTEMPTING TO ATTACK COALITION TROOPS! The UN coalition that entered Iraq and ousted Saddam Hussein didn't deliberately attack civilian targets. The insurgents from Iran, Libya, Syria and other countries in that region that support terrorist organizations deliberately attacked civilian targets. So, how did the "Christian" soldiers kill these 1 million people?
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jesusisaklingon 1 day ago
@sandorsbox The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs, and widely destroying military and civilian infrastructure.
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Sanctions against Iraq began August 6, 1990, four days after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, stayed largely in force until May 2003. Unicef states: 500,000 children (including sanctions, collateral effects of war) died before 1999.
geezusispan 1 day ago
@geezusispan The bombing targeted military structures and vehicles. Civilian casualties occurred, but they were not deliberate. The children who died did so because SADDAM HUSSEIN'S REGIME DID NOT DISTRIBUTE THE FOOD THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM FOR THE CHILDREN. Don't throw the death toll of children in my face when it was their own dictator who did it.
sandorsbox 1 day ago
@sandorsbox
I'm done with you - Even facts can't shake your belief in the evil of preemptively invading other countries as a wonderful US blessing. Keep your head buried in the sand, you wouldn't want see the reality...
geezusispan 1 day ago
@geezusispan No, you're the one who won't listen to facts. The facts are that Saddam Hussein is the one who's control caused the suffering of his people. Promised food aid was delivered to his authorities but never given out to the people. The US NEVER bombed civilian targets. Hussein and his ilk certainly never seemed shy about hiding in hospitals and schools to try and prevent enemies from attacking. Who is the true monster? People like him know we're loathe to strike such places.
sandorsbox 1 day ago
@vtc193 What about opium?
Casadosmongos 3 days ago
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@vtc193 Ok, 1st, the US was in no way found upon Christian ANYTHING so please stop with this idiotic bullshit claim as it has been dealt with in every manner possible. This is a secular nation and the founding fathers were secularists. Religious freedom is no a Christian virtue. More over, there is no religious test for public office. Plus, the fact that legislation passed right after the US was ratified expressly states that the US Was in no way founded on the Christian religion 1/2
KamekoBruns 5 days ago
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@vtc193 all adds up to show that your bullshit claims have no basis in fact. Our founding fathers despised the Christian religion. In 1797 Jefferson wrote "[Our] principles [are] founded on the immovable basis of equal right and reason." No mention of religion at all there. Here are some more quotes. "History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government." "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty."
KamekoBruns 5 days ago
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@vtc193 Now, as to your completely idioitic claim that christian fight for the rights of others this is incredible bullshit. Spanish Inquisition. Forced conversion by missionaries. Plundering and pillaging indigenous civilizaitons to spread the word of god?
You truly are one delusion twit.
KamekoBruns 5 days ago
@geezusispan Let's see. . . Hitler was a pagan socialist and he killed 6+ million. Stalin was a communist and he was responsible for 10-20 million. Pol Pot is responsible for hundred's of thousands, possibly millions. Chairman Mao killed millions of Chineese. Going back in history, we have the Aztec's and Mayans, Atilla the Hun, Ghengis Kahn of the Mongols, and so on. It is man that kills, nor his ideologies. They just use these ideas as excuses to perpetuate their blood lust.
wrweeks1234 1 week ago
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@wrweeks1234 "Hitler was a pagan socialist..." Uh dead wrong on the pagan part assmaggot. Hitler was deeply religious and often and openly stated that his drive to kill the Jews was ordained by god. Aztec's and Mayan's were highly religious people and often used human sacrifice to appease their gods for a multitude of reasons. Ghengis Khan likewise sacrified humans and felt he was given a grant by god to conquer. Hirohito believed he was the son of god.
KamekoBruns 1 week ago
@Khyrid So im a atheist can I judge all religions as shit since they are? Christians are just as stupid except the muslums follow there holy book word for word christians don't even know whats in there bible most of the time.
GUNS4MIKE1234 1 week ago
@Khyrid
My point is, obviously, that the US does worse shit than all the Islamic countries combined.
Kills more people, invades more countries, supports more dictators. Since we live in the US, it IS important. So how are you justified in pointing a finger at Islam when YOU live in a worse country?
Here's a fun fact: Every year, more than 2,000 children in the U.S. are killed by their
parents or guardians either through abuse or neglect. Which Islamic countries have you lived in?
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan So because the US is terrible then the Muslims should pour acid on little girl's faces? That becomes an okay thing to do? I don't exactly swallow your anti-US propaganda but even if it was true that doesn't make the death cult of Islam a good thing. It would just mean we have a horrible country bombing people and a horrible ideology (Islam) executing people.
Khyrid 1 week ago
@Khyrid
You live in a country that it's military kills thousands of times more civilians than Islamic countries, but insist that the topic is how bad Islam is. Children are abused and killed in the US every day, but you want to point out how awful Islam is. You do know that Islam is just like christianity, it means something different to every member. I live on the same block as Somalian Muslims. They haven't hurt anyone in 15 years.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@Khyrid You can continue to demonize and fear Islam if you want. Just know the problem is in your own head.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan You can continue to demonize and fear the US if you want. Just know the problem is in your own head.
Khyrid 1 week ago
@Khyrid When all you can come up with is copying my comment, then I guess the game is over. Better luck next time....
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan One unsubstantiated claim deserves another.
Khyrid 3 days ago
@Khyrid I am so-o-o-o-o-o waiting for a MASS rally of American (or any Western world) Muslims to march in protest denouncing:
1. Islamic terrorist bombings of Western targets
2. Islamic hate-speech against Israel
3. Islamic hate-speech against Jews
4. Islamic 'honour killings'
5. Islamic murders and assassinations of Christians in Egypt.
6. Islamic murders and persecutions of Muslims who convert to Christianity...
When I see this, THEN Islam will be a religion of peace.
Countrygent100 4 days ago
@Khyrid You are SO right!!!!
Countrygent100 4 days ago
@Khyrid I agree. But if you are and Islamic Muslim you cannot be a person of peace. The entire Islamic religion is based on ridding the world of all opposition. It's in the Quaran and the Bible both. I realize there are peaceful people who think they're Islamic, but they've just been taught that they're Islamic. Kind of like the Christians who are pro-choice and pro-gay (sorry guys, that ain't me!)
0823Snowman 3 days ago
@0823Snowman Christ said that the greatest commandment was to Love God and the second most important was Love your neighbor. You cannot be a Christian and hate someone because they're gay. That's going against Christ's teachings. I denounce all "Christians" who hate anyone.
sandorsbox 2 days ago
How many Muslims were killed by the US in Iraq? Millions....
There are over 30 US military bases surrounding Iran right NOW!
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@geezusispan what a lie
Dunbarick 1 week ago
@Dunbarick Stop watching Fox and look up the facts. We have bases surrounding Iran, there's an entire map showing it.
DisciplineOfSteel 1 week ago
@DisciplineOfSteel millions killed?, seriously?, where are your facts?
Dunbarick 1 week ago
@Dunbarick Do you remember the first oil war in the 90s? Bush I was st the helm , Basra was carpet bombed by B-52s. Then came the bombing of "military targets", you know bridges power plants, government buildings and 15 years of sanctions cutting off medicine and food for children and adults. There are no official US reports of the numbers killed, of course. They wouldn't want o upset the sheeple.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan thanks for admiting you have no basis whatsovever for your numbers of "millions killed". I would suggest going forward you not make outrageous claims with no substantiation.
Dunbarick 1 week ago
@Dunbarick
The 'official" numbers are over 110,000 Iraqis killed since 2003. There was the Bush Oil; War I started in 1990. The Persian Gulf War started with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 17 January 1991. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tons of bombs. During the latter part of the 1990s the UN considered relaxing the sanctions imposed because of the hardships suffered by ordinary Iraqis.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@Dunbarick cont - During the latter part of the 1990s the UN considered relaxing the sanctions imposed because of the hardships suffered by ordinary Iraqis. According to UN estimates, between 500,000 and 1.2 million children died during the years of the sanctions
Source - "Iraq surveys show 'humanitarian emergency'". Wednesday, 12 August 1999. Retrieved 29 November 2009. unicef(dot)org/newsline/99pr29(dot)htm
geezusispan 1 week ago
@Dunbarick You're kidding right? Google it, there's documents and even soldiers who have admitted in killing families . Do you think all those bombs we dorpped for the last 10 years just killed so called "terrorists'? No, we killed millions!
DisciplineOfSteel 1 week ago
@DisciplineOfSteel Maybe that was zillions or perhaps gazillions.
TerrierToughGuy 1 week ago
@geezusispan Not even close
JaysGOP 1 week ago
watch?v=j3BGwQr8xg4
"The Third Jihad: Radical Islam's view for the future of Ameirca" (full documentary)
watch?v=krvCQbzPKiI
"Islam: What the West needs to know" (full documentary)
Watch it.
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein Your videos about Islam's barbaric teachings are no different then that of judaism. The difference is, the jews control the majority of the world, via the ways I explained earlier. Look at what they've done with it. They are turning this world into a one world capitalistic republic. They are working to enslave the world, once and for all. That is what the Middle East is fighting. Islam is just their alternative to have no religion at all. It doesn't mean they want to practice
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul Capitalism is the best form of economic governance on the planet. Capitalism is the most fair and free method, period.
Economics videos:
watch?v=g-o0kD9f6wo
watch?v=70IqfH39-Rk
watch?v=fKc6esIi0_U
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein Capitalism uses wall street to succeed. Wall Street controls the rate of inflation by controlling the "bubble effect". You too pay the higher and higher prices of inflation. Soon, $100,000 a year will be the equivalent to $30,000, or worse. Intrinsic value is how Wall Street operates. With intrinsic value, comes the "bubble effect". This never ending cycle inevitably devalues the dollar.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein Capitalism is privatized means of production, which is basically privatized dictatorship/ slavery. If the goal is to always be accumulating financial capital, then the public's, as well as the workers' best interests are not being taken into consideration. Capitalism is a disease.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein How is it fair for an umbrella conglomerate to monopolize resources?
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul WATCH those econ. videos I linked. Under a pure Capitalist system there can be no monopolies. All monopolies are created by an act of Government intervention, i.e. Socialism.
Pure Capitalism is the absense of Government regulation in private business. The U.S. does not now practice pure Capitalism, we do have some Government regulation, and it is that regulation which is vulnerable to special interest and creates problems.
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein "Pure Capitalism is the absense of Government regulation in private business."
Right, we should run our economy on the "honor system"....... If there is no regulation, how the hell do you propose that monopolies won't be created.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein Capitalism is privatized means of production. Plain and simple. Nothing in that says there will be no monopolies.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein A LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST COMMUNISM FOR ALL!!!!!!
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein Liberalism - a philosophy advocating liberty and equal rights
Democracy - a philosophy advocating a government run by the people
Socialism - a philosophy advocating public ownership of production and distribution based on an individual's contribution
Communism - a philosophy advocating public ownership of production and distribution based upon an individual's need
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein all of it.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein With jews, we are seeing the talmud being acted out everyday. The only difference between radical Muslims, and radical jews, are their economical and political power.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul I've never read the Talmud, most Jews have not. Only Orthodox Jews read those books and they are almost never rich people.
Us secular, liberal, non-religious Jews are the "zionists."
You can't nit-pick about the Talmud, which is a very old book, to proclaim that somehow "Jews control the world" -- that's Saudi Arabian State Education at work. They teach that in school over there.
You think the Bible doesn't day evil things about Jews? The Koran? LOL!!!
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein "You can't nit-pick about the Talmud, which is a very old book, to proclaim that somehow Jews control the world"
The important part is that your leaders are doing things that are permitted in the talmud. It's just an example of their means of control. I have clearly stated that their control is solidified through government, world banks, umbrella conglomerates, monopolizing resources, all forms of media, ect.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul You're eating the cake, and it's a lie. It's a sick, weird, Nazi-based lie which is fueled by Arab hatred of Jewish people.
Believing in stuff like that is easier than critically thinking, for most people anyway. You simply eat whatever you're spoonfed via a YouTube video.
You're a sheep. :\
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein "Believing in stuff like that is easier than critically thinking"
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You think I got here by NOT thinking critically? Critical thinking is what tells me how full of shit you are. That's why you just keep calling it Arab propaganda, rather than raising counterclaims.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein "I've never read the Talmud, most Jews have not."
Then, none of your are very good jews. Also, you all fund the same agenda, one way or another.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein You can't nit-pick about the Qur'an, which is a very old book, to proclaim that somehow "Muslims want to control the world" -- that's israeli state education at work. They teach that in school over there.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul So we're at the stage when you simply parrot my own words back to me?
Get a life, loser. :P
OBAMA 2012!
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein What, can't handle your own bullshit being throwing back at you? Smell it, mother fucker, it's YOUR shit.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul "being throwing back at you?"
Uh oh. For an "American" (not from the U.A.E. as your profile claims), your English is somewhat lacking.
Herp derp! You lose, again! xD
Obama wins by a landslide in 2012. Get used to it.
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein Right, because I haven't been able to intelligently articulate myself this entire time. My typos are pale, in comparison to your horrible grammatical skills, and mentally challenged critical thinking process.
But, keep pretending that you have made even one valid point, this entire time.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul Oh you've done well, but you slipped.
:)
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul Go watch my playlist entitled "Islam," it's over five and a half hours of pure Evil. Go watch that. It's not propaganda, most of it's directly from Arab television in the Middle East.
Watch it and then come back here and argue. If you still champion the cause of "Palestine" after watching the playlist, you are either one of them or so totally afraid of them that you will do anything to keep out of their way.
We will win. :)
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims, and only 14 million jews. The jews have more political, and economical power than ANY other group. You have used that power to cause the irrational behavior that you are now "fighting". Their acts of desperation may not be condonable, but they are certainly understandable.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul Whatever. We fight them because we are forced to do so. They are not forced or obligated to attack us. The Koran encourages them to perform "Jihad" against infidels, claim territory in the name of Allah, and convert everyone to Islam and/or subjugate them under the rule of Islam as a "dhimmi", or second-class citizen.
The history of Islam is short and bloody. It is an expansionist, aggressive ideology, and is the enemy of the entire free world.
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein "We fight them because we are forced to do so."
No, your fight is as the aggressor.
"They are not forced or obligated to attack us."
They are, if they want to defend themselves from what your people have done to them. Their fight is an reactionary one. You invaded THEIR land.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein "The Koran encourages them to perform "Jihad" against infidels, claim territory in the name of Allah, and convert everyone to Islam and/or subjugate them under the rule of Islam as a "dhimmi", or second-class citizen."
As apposed to the talmud encouraging jews to perform a "holy" war against not only Islam, but any not supporter of judaism? As apposed to jews claiming land in the name of YHWH?
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein As apposed to jews trying to subjugate everyone, under the rule of judaism, as a "goyim" or animals? At least the Muslims will treat you equally when you convert.
The history of judaism is long and bloody. It is an expansionist, aggressive ideology, and is the enemy of the entire free world.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein Furthermore, their governments are trying to maintain control of their uprising citizens. Only people with money, and political power, can run those kinds of shows. Those shows do not depict the overall sentiment of the followers of Islam. They want peace. They want to be left alone. You won't give them that. This is what has resulted. You made your bed. Now, lie in it.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul And a point of fact about the Governments of the Arab world:
How many protestors are dead in Syria this past month due to Government crackdowns? 6,000
There were only 1,500 Palestinians killed in Israel's most recent "Operation: Cast Lead" in Gaza.
The Arab-Muslim world has big problems, and most of them have nothing to do with Israel, America or the West. The problem is: ISLAM
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein "How many protestors are dead in Syria this past month due to Government crackdowns? 6,000"
EXACTLY! 6,000 people died as they tried to overthrow the same government you are saying supports them.
"There were only 1,500 Palestinians killed in Israel's most recent "Operation: Cast Lead" in Gaza."
That's 1,500 too many. Your minimization of it is not only disgusting, but quite revealing of how little you jews care about gentiles/ goyims.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein "The Arab-Muslim world has big problems, and most of them have nothing to do with Israel, America or the West. The problem is: ISLAM"
No. Islam's biggest problem is the assholes, like the jews, who use the US and israel to fight their genocidal war, as depicted in judaic texts.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul Your midguided views about Jews are the exact same views and logic which is championed by so-called "white-supremacist" groups, the Aryan Nation, KKK, and the American Nazi party.
It is also equally championed by Arab-Muslims, especially those of Middle Eastern origin as it is actually taught as being fact in many Arab nations, mainly Saudi and Egypt. And Gaza.
You're not in with a good crowd. Many of the people in your camp are fanatical hate-mongers.
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein "You're not in with a good crowd. Many of the people in your camp are fanatical hate-mongers."
Those philosophies do not change the validity of my claims. Furthermore, I am not a racist. Now, raise a damn counterclaim already. You haven't countered ANYTHING I have said.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul You're never called upon to disprove something which has not been, in fact, proven.
I am not required to disprove that "Jews control the world," you are required to prove that if you want to assert it as truth.
Your arguments are based on slanderous generalizations, sloppy and mostly irrelevant "documentation" in the form of very old religious texts, and Arab-Nazi propaganda nonsense.
Good luck with that, psycho. :)
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein "Your arguments are based on slanderous generalizations, sloppy and mostly irrelevant "documentation" in the form of very old religious texts, and Arab-Nazi propaganda nonsense."
Then prove it, you ignorant jackass. I've made claims. Counter them.
Is that you don't understand critical thinking, or are you just hoping your potential audience doesn't?
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul But the "claim" you have made is fundamentally invalid and without proof. Nobody is expected to counter a bogus claim.
If you want to assert a genuine argument then do so, but you've actually got to be able to prove that the argument is genuine and based in logical, factual information and not hysterical paranoid conspiracy theory nonsense.
So do that and you'll impress me:
How, exactly, do Jews control the world?
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein "But the "claim" you have made is fundamentally invalid"
Then address the claim you believe is invalid. I have already explained how jews control the world. The jews are the largest contributors of American political campaigns. Those politicians do what their sponsors say. They control the majority of media outlets. They own most the banks. They run the federal reserve. They use the kosher tax and their umbrella conglomerates to monopolize resources.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago
@TheWanderinSoul You have explained nothing.
And none of what you have just said implies anything illegal.
By the way, films like this: watch?v=yl8g8S6F3do are *not* propaganda, it's straight up Arab television. They made this, not us. It's the truth.
This is a war against Islam on behalf of the West. All your talk is conspiracy theory nonsense. We are fighting against the spread of Islam, and we shall prevail.
:)
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
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@RonaldPaulstein "You have explained nothing."
You just keep telling yourself that.
"And none of what you have just said implies anything illegal."
Just like a zionist kike to go "whaaattt??? I din't do anything"
"This is a war against Islam on behalf of the West."
No, this war is on behalf of israel and jews, who control the US government.
"We are fighting against the spread of Islam"
Only you jews are. Americans are not. Stop spreading your propaganda, you fucking sack of shit.
TheWanderinSoul 1 week ago