When you watch this film, it's extremely disturbing to think about how much food is discarded by the grocery stores because it has a blemish of some sort...and how much more is wasted after it's purchased (whether privately or commercially). We take so much for granted...
Because, thanks to a mis-interpretation of the US Constitution, the "Right to bear arms" includes a nuclear missile in your back yard.
When it was drafted - "right to bear arms" meant a sword and a one-shot-at-a-time musket.
But put it out of context in modern times, and it means Uzis and AK47s and Hand Grenades and Bazookas and Rocket Launchers and - yes - Nuclear Missiles.
Basically, the short-sighted US constitution gave any old half-wit the right to end the world.
I imagine the rats and insects would take care of all the dead. We'd become the blood-meal for the next generation of biology, in the shape of a rat-dropping. Quite a fitting end I shouldn't wonder.
My recomendation in this genre is to read WARDAY. It details likely political, economic, military and health matters associated with life after a limited nuclear exchange between the soviets and the US/NATO on October 26 1988. It details life 8 years after. Full of hard numbers and best guess work based on research available at the time of the novel(mid-80's)
apparently binky plays to many video games to know what the real was like and for some one to think they know it all just try stepping out of ur own country for change u weekend wanna be if u knew about the first thing about survive u wouldn't be on here running ur stupid ass mouth so reply back t to me i don't give a rats ass yes i am am american yes i did serve in the military but i say this in a nuclear war alot resources would be damage this movie by is a great movie
Threads was a good -- and traumatic and hard to watch -- film. I haven't seen The War Game 1964. Will have to look for it on your recommendation.
My only criticism of Threads is it showed no warmth or humour post attack.
I realize both of these would be in short supply. However, it's human nature -- literally encoded in our genes -- to exhibit such traits. I'm sure you'd still see the odd smile and hear the odd laugh from some people even in grim times.
I just want to say that if nuclear war happens--and it might considering the shit going on all the time with Russia and China--we're all fucked. In the ass.
it does not matter which countries are our allies it is a no win scenario in a nuclear war there is nothing left of society before the war happens all governments will blame someone an society willfall apart it wont go gracefully like past civilizations we seen in mankinds history and blinky to wiilliams wilson answer it was one we nuked
Binky40SW - Fuck off. Please, just fuck off. You've filled 11 of these Threads videos so far with your chauvinistic American crap. Nobody likes you. You talk complete shit. Stop trolling with your infantile survivalist fantasies as you type at a computer in complete comfort.
go fuck yourself. 90% of the world experienced some level of freedom because of the USAs intervention at one time or another in history.
So, fuck you. Next time there's a hurricane, or Earthquake, or other disaster in your country, fuck yourself. Don't bother asking the US for help in ANY way shape or form.
Uh huh... like various tomes on "History" or "Government", or stuff like that?
Maybe the history that includes world wars one and two; how we won them by going in with intent to win, or how Vietnam was lost because of a bunch of liberal pussies who wanted to handle the enemy with kid leather gloves...
Yeah, I've read a little more than you'd expect, and I'm a lot more knowledgable.
BTW, you never answered my question. Which cities from your list are in a country that is now our ally?
I wouldn't worry. the more babies he kills the more "freedom" they have.
Truly, I didn't think you could possibly exceed the insight and intellect demonstrated in previous posts. I was wrong to underestimate the determination of the American stereotype. Apologies.
You will? That would almost be relevant if I hadn't dismissed you as an idiot before the question was posed. Which, admittedly, is the closest you have threatened to wander near relevancy thus far.
Riiiiiight... so many commie shitholes allow free speech. So many commie shitholes allow a person to achieve great things based on their own hard work and merit.
Oh, wait, they don't? Suppression of free speech? Gulags? Execution of political dissidents? Socailism? Didn't realize that's the kind of shit that happens every day in America.
Do *YOU* want to answer my question? The answer is obvious.
Here's another really really easy one-when the shiot hit the fan and a natural disaster wip[es out a village in some third world shitpot that some people insist on calling a country, who's one of the nations that sends the most aid and does it the fastest?
(A little hint; it's also the only country who ever dropped a nuke on an enemy in warfare. )
america is main cause of gfobal depression and its greed for oil has created third world countries america was born at the retardation of a drunk englishmen america is a third world country u stupid prick
ps who beat the seeemingly unbeatable army during a conflict in the far east ehhh was the vc against the weak usa
The only reason we didn't stom,p them flat was because of liberal socialist pussies dictating foreign policy.
We could have stomped the VC flat... bitch-slapped them and sent them crying back to their rathole tunnels in north vietnam if we'd really wanted to win the war.
The war was lost by liberal pussies, not the American military.
As for America being a third world country, fagboy, who developed the internet, who advanced modern medicine to where it is today (it seems to me that people from all of the world come to one of the premier medical facilities in the world, the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN.), and exactly what country are people struggling to get into every day? Why do you suppose hundreds flee that commie shitpot "paradise" known as cuba to come to what you call a "third world" America even at the risk of death?
Facts to back that up? It seems to me based on the information that I have that the internet has its roots as far back as the 50's and 60s in the DARPA and ARPA nets.
And *IF* it was an "englishman" that developed the internet he did it in America, for the US military.
Uhhh, try the conceptr of the internet, invented in California by the ARPANET and DARPANET. Both projects, ironically, to provide a way to communicate and stomp the shit out of our adversary in the event of a nuclear attack.
As for HTML, that's irrelevant... there was a backbone network in place for a long time before HTML found a network to work on.
So, nice try with the red herring. Try the TRUE origins of the internet. You know, the one invented by Americans.
Uhhh, no. Not a british invention. *Refined* by the british, maybe; but concieved and initially developed in the United States.
As for the telephone... are you suggesting that is wasn't invented by Bell? Sure, it might have been *proposed* by earlier scientists, but when it comes to "dreaming" and "doing", which do you suppose is more effective?
So, are you delusional, or just deliberately obtuse?
look mate lets end this hear lets both agree that britain and the us have came up with some of the greatest scientific discoveries af all time and we have worked together on a lot of them and lets hope we continue this relashionship we have
Well, it's sad to say but you guys have kinda lost your way over there...
Just look at some of the assinine laws-ban on private ownership of firearms, banning "pointy" kitchen knives, harrasing people taking photographs as potential terrorists, trying to pass carte blanche laws that make it illegal to photgraph/take video of police officers performing their public duty...
I could go on and on...
I'm sure you're a nice guy, and you live in what was a great country in the past.
its not all that bad if your over 18 you can buy a kitchen knive and as for guns you can buy a shotgun but not a pistol and i have never heard of the photograph thing the thing is with the weapons is theres a lot of killing going on lately but your country has faults to so much more crime than over here but you have now got a good new president so i hope things pick up but all said and done i wish you and your country the best of luck for the future cheers mate
He's selling us out to those who would kill us for no other reason than the fact that we are a free society that doesn't oppress our women. He's taking from those who work and giving it away to those who refuse to pull their weight. He has on occasion said he wishes he could do away with the freedom of speech if he could, so that he doesn't have to listen to his critics.
No, obammy's no "great man" that people think he is; in fact he's more devisive than any other man whos held the office.
Riiiiight. I'm sure you can do better than that... like something that actually contributes to the discussion (much like what I have to say) or a rebuttal from any of the other commenters (as deeply flawed as their reasoning may be-or as baseless).
you really are the kind of guy who thinks you know every thing and that your always right and you wont listen to any one elses opinion it just goes in one ear and out the other with you you really are the definition of an arrogant pretentious american prick i have tryed to be civil with you but i cant you are nothing but a wanker a boring little wanker
I listen to opinions, but those opinions have to have at least *some* basis in reality.
I always hear lazy bastards complaining about America. Our foreign policy, our standard of living, the rights we have...
But when the shit hits the fan, we're the first ones asked to give foreign aid (ie Haiti) or military aid (WW1 and WW2 ring a bell?). When it comes to standard of living, we have people literally risking their lives to be here.
...And as arrogant as I am, I'm not fabricating "facts" to make my point...
The internet was invented in America, developed with the military in mind. DARPANET. ARPANET. Maybe a snaggle toothed brit wrote som code to exploit or popularize it, but the backbone was already there... made in America.
The Telephone? Invented in America; right here in Boston where my forefathers first bitch-slapped your forefathers and sent them packing.
Wow. I thought you, at least, might be able to do better that childish insults, what with all your "superior" British intellegence and culture.
If you don't like what I have to say, why are you even reading my comments? Why aren't you drinking a cup of tea or singing "God Save the Queen" or something?
As for WW1, we *did* bail your ass out; but your country has really lost so much character in the last century I wonder if the sacrifices my grandfather made for you losers was worth it.
is this what this is all about prick your grandad getting killed this is not about are countrys here all im saying is your a wanker nothing to do with a country you are a wanker nothing more nothing less thank god i was born a gypsy we dont have cunts like you in my people you boring little prick
im more than grateful for the help but im not the one waving the flag here why cant you get get it through your thick fucking head that im not talking about which country is better all im trying to say is you are an insulting little wanker get this through your head you fucking cunt cant wait for the day china takes you over
and one more thing you obnoxious prick so far the uk has lost 264 of our boys fighting your war and you fucking dare to call me ungrateful when all you do is insult my country to me your just a nothing but a little joke who has no real life who has to sit on his computer talking about how good america is just to make himself feel good i feel sorry for you mate you cant have many friends with the way you look at the world
*OUR* war? Lemme guess; you're one of those people who think that either 9/11 was an inside job, or we somehow provoked the terrorists to fly planes into our buildings.
You probably also agreed with Sadam when he gassed 10,000 of his own people.
That just proves the content of your character, or the lack of it.
264, huh? What was the combined American death toll for both World Wars 1 and 2?
no i dont think it was an inside job what so ever but look mate i have said me piece you know what i think of you and thats all that matters and lets face it your army aint that good i mean look when you got the shit kicked out of you by vietnam and that was the most shameful defeat in history i bet you feel so ashamed over how hard the russians where laughing at you
The war in 'Nam could have been one with one, maybe two 1 Megaton warheads. Couple of firecrackers, really. It would have made "rolling thunder" look like a fart in a phone booth.
Unfortunately we let a bunch of bleeding heart liberal pussies dictate our foreign policy; we let them steer us away from the truth that *TOTAL* war is what wins wars.
They tied the hands of the generals that know in order to win a war you have to crush the opposition, whether it wears a uniform or not.
yeah but you do know if the us did that it would have caused world war 3 the united nations would have comdemed you so would the soviets the uk might have sided with you and then the us the uk and the soviets would have blown each other to the stone age lets at least agree on this
Yeah, Fuck the UN. They're just another organization bent on destroying national sovereignty; a lot of their "leaders" are the same liberal faggot bleeding heart pussies that dictated the policy that lost Vietnam.
We should have nuked russia in the late 40s/early 50s anyway, as soon as they refused to back out of the european countries they were occupying.
@daniboi12345 .270 Winchester-Keeps adversaries at bay to at least 400 yards. High energy, flat trajectory. One shot one kill. .223, several 30 round magazines. Keeps those missed by the .270 at bay, at least out of pistol range. .45, .40, 9mm, .38 Spc... for the stubborn persistant types who don't take the hint and try to get into bayonet range. In a total societal collapse and vacuum of government-any level of field expedient IEDs, obstacles and boobytraps.
@Binky40SW You know why MacArthur was recalled from Korea? Because he was on the verge of fucking it up. He upcannoned conventionally until the Chinese were compelled to go in and was planning to go nuclear, which would have sparked a nuclear response from China AND probably Russia too.
What you're talking about would simply have changed the USSR and China's involvement in Vietnam from covert and advisory to full participation. It's a really shitty country to have WWIII over, don't you think?
@Binky40SW: Wow! Just read a few of your 'informed' comments and I'm amazed people like you still exist in this enlightened age, I have a few questions...
1: How is it possible you can be a man in your thirties and still as ignorant as pigshit?
2: Do you have an unhealthy obsession with firearms? (I'm guessing I already know the answer to this one...right 'Cleatus'?)
3: Do you have an even more unhealthy obsession with your sister?
4: Do you possess: A) A Mullet. B) A Pick-up. C) Both
@Pheonixfromtheshale Uh huh... I watch our country being run into the ground by a socialist dictator and show concern and *I'M* the ignorant one? Try again.
Define unhealthy obsession, wanker... remember what Freud said about fear of weapons?
As for my sisters, I've made a promise to myself to defend them against all threats, wherever they may come from.
Same haircut I had when I was in the military, and I enjoy driving a gas-guzzling SUV, thanks.
@Binky40SW: "I watch our country being run into the ground by a socialist dictator" - Go and look up the dictionary definition of the words 'Socialist' and 'Dictator' - not only are they completely contradictory to each other and therefore make no sense in the context of your laughable little outburst, but it's also nowhere near the truth of the political climate you're living in - Thats what the majority voted for - thats what you got! it's called DEMOCRACY you inbred hillbilly fuckwit
@Pheonixfromtheshale Socialism-"To each according to his needs from each according to his abilities." Sounds right to me, with welfare for the ones who refuse to work, healthcare forthe ones who don't want to spend one dime of their own, entitlements for the ones who do little or nothing; all; of it paid for by me and the thousands of people like me who have a job. THAT is socialism.
@Pheonixfromtheshale Obammy shuts down and doesn't allow any kind of open debate, and any time someone attempts to ask questions in an open forum, they're dragged out by armed thugs. He's taking over private businesses left and right and suggesting that certain inalienable rights don't exist. THAT is a dictator.
I agree that nigger hates white people! Obama-hitler said that whites must pay half of their salary to black welfare coons! Look it up on youtube, Obammy also said the word honkey to Joe Biden! Niggers are always crying about racism, go back to Ape-Africa! Gay white power! Fuck niggers!
@Binky40SW: By the way, next time your cleaning your shotgun (I've no doubt an inadequate like you owns several of them) make sure it's loaded and the barrel's in your mouth. You'll be doing the gene pool a favour and I seriously doubt you'll be missed ;-)
@Pheonixfromtheshale Not gonna happen in the wettest of your wet dreams, wanker (*although, truth be told, I feel a little behind the curve with only three shotguns). See, there's this thing most liberals no nothing about called "morality" where we do the right thing-protecting our loved ones is on that list-and I couldn't do that if I chose to snuff it. That and my religion forbids it.
As for shotguns, now ya got me thinking... how much does a double barrel 12 ga cost?
@Binky40SW: Lol! You're obviously one of these yank-plank wackjobs who babble on about the supposed 'New World Order' and cook up ficticious bogeymen in order to try and justify your own xenophobic ultra right wing agenda. God knows why I'm wasting time communing with such over-armed and under-educated detritus like yourself.
I look forward to seeing you on the news in the near future when the next US highschool massacre happens - freak.
@Pheonixfromtheshale Riiight... like the NWO whackjobs who said Bush was the anti-christ, who said 9/11 was an inside job, how Katrina was Bush's fault... how *ALL* the evils of the world could be blamed on some vast right-wing conspiracy?
Under-educated, huh? How would you know that? Just because you've gone to college that doesn't mean you're "educated"... and "over-armed" is a matter of opinion held by a sexually immature hopolophobe.
@Binky40SW listen mate. if the bomb did drop you would probably either get fried or die of staravation or get such a heavy dose you would want to die and probably would or die from some other shit...unless you live under a montain
@Binky40SW what happens when you are out of ammo & cant find any more shells....not to mention that you would either be irradiated, suffering from shock, burns, blast injuries, weakened immunity,dehydrayted etc...i think you havent REALY thought this one out......might as well top you self now ..preferably pack yourself in a couple of bin liners now..leave your id on the outside of the body bag
It's when things get really tough that people's true colors show through - It reminds me of a Woody Guthrie dust bowl song called "Dusty Old Dust (So Long It's Been Good To Know Yuh)" In it, the preacher calls everyone to the church - takes the collection, then leaved town!
"...Now, the telephone rang, an' it jumped off the wall,
That was the preacher, a-makin' his call.
He said, Kind friend, this may the end;
An' you got your last chance of salvation of sin!...
You idiots have no idea. You US guys (idiot posters not all US posters) think hill billy living will get you through? Have a couple pieces? The Russkies could drop 2000 5 megaton bombs on the continental US. I know you would trash them too. Tell me who won after.
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Damn right. Wouldn't even need to give him *both* barrels, just one. The other interlopers would have been hauling ass before the dead cop hit the ground and the blood stopped pattering down on the ground.
Yeah, but that wouldn't exactly make for an engaging drama.
No doubt the US, Soviet Union, and most of Europe would be a smoldering, glossy parking lot. I think they chose this setup as it was "on the fringe" (relatively speaking); similarly why they chose Kansas City for "The Day After" so they could show the city itself, nearby rural areas, and the University of Kansas, each affected differently.
In terms of realism and certainly forecasting long-term, 'Threads' does much better.
this is bullshit. where are the Russians for one thing or were they blown away completly? and what, pray, is everyone going to drink? radioactive water? If you look at the total yield that Britain would have got there wouldnt have been anything left standing.
Does anyone know the equivalent of the Chernobyl disaster in kilotons? What would have been the power of the nuclear device detonated in order to acheive the same amount of radiation?
The situations are not comparable. Firstly radiation from a nuclear reactor doesn't contain exactly the same isotopes as those from a nuclear weapon and the spread would be more limited,unless there was a vast explosion, unlikely,certainly not a question of kilotons.this doesn't diminish the horrific effects of the Chernobyl accident, but the majority of reactors is much safer than the combined nuclear weapons in the world today, including those in Pakistan, Israel, India, and elsewhere..
To anyone not from the US -- or that may care -- let me state that the majority of the laughable opinions presented by some of my fellow Americans do not represent the majority of Americans themselves.
These are the same type of redneck, head-in-the-sand, self-deceptive, Branson-Missouri-vacationing, WalMart-shoppers that not only elected Bush twice, but generally serve as the cholesterol in the arteries of our society.
My apologies that you have to put up with them, too.
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Yeah. The "rednecks" are the ones who you'll be begging for help if there's ever a wide-scale disaster.
They're the ones who know how to hunt, to fish, to plant a garden... they're the ones who know how to change their oil or change their alternator. They're the ones who can change a flat or fill a gas tank on the side of the road.
When the phones are out and the internet doesn't work, when the police tell you you're on your own and the supermarket shelves have been looted bare
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Pt. 2:
the rednecks will still be eating fresh food. If they don't have it they'll know where to get it.
Good luck in the cities. Good luck defending yourself against the looters with a little can of pepper-spray, and good luck calling for help with that cell-phone when the lines go down. Good luck using your PDA or your laptop when the battery has died, and good luck going to McDonalds when the power goes out and there's no drive-thru service.
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When the natural gas isn't flowing and when the electricity's off, the rednecks will be safe and warm in their living room with the fireplace or the wood stove.
If the redneck loses his home, he knows how to survive in the woods, sometimes for an extended period. And rednecks stick together-one neighbor looks out for the other. Consider it a highly-motivated and well-trained neighborhood watch, with shotguns.
Rednecks will survive in the face of just about any peril.
Hunting, fishing, gardening -- I'm afraid the redneck holds no exclusive rights to any of these. Nor to the ability to survive or defend themselves. You posit in grand generalizations, but they have no basis nor merit.
Actually, rednecks will be among the first to self-destruct, thanks to years of promoting distrust and eschewing convention, they will be at one another's throats in fairly short order when, ignorant and scared, they find the only ones left to fear are one another.
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The rednecks will hjave the drive and the ability to adjust simply because it's a way of life for them to deal with adversity. They know that planting a garden doesn't mean a window box full of herbs and tomatoes. They know that hunting isn't something you do once a year and then only if you're motivated to do so and you can get out of the latest office meeting to do it.
Sorry, city dwellers are soft, and will be among the first to go up in a painless white light. So long.
Zed (from Pulp Fiction)? is that you? That's all humanity needs is to have more inbreeding within the redneck community. You have no clue what "life" would be like after a nuclear exchange.
The survivalists (who, by the way, have wet dreams about the end of civilization) would last a bit longer than the tech-heads, would be wiped out too.
The people who love to watch/read apocalyptic stories, are those who are beaten down by modern life that they dream of a day when they could have power.
In that case, the snaking progression of destruction could elude all serious diplomatic measure of prevention. And, even worst, all serious diplomatic effort to put an end to the war would not have any recognizable diplomatic counterpart. The larger would be the distruction of any high military centre of command, the harder the peace would be to be gained. At the top of the war, a sort of mind-change would be necessary. And surely it could be to late for such a mind-change.
World could be at war without any real perception of the moment the war practicely started. First, strong, massive "terroristic" acts; then provocative and aggressive diplomacy; then local, or "periferic" nuke attacks and counter-attacks; then nuke bombing or "terroristic" chemical-biological contamination of more important targets (retorsive attacks against civilian population or strategical attacks against military and industrial structures)...
While the straight attack could be a real eventuality during the cold war, the actual war against terrorism has changed the perspective of a third worldwide conflict. If a local nuke conflict occurs for example in Near East between Teheran and Jerusalem, or between Pakistan and India, in days random attacks, "terroristic" acts of bombing with so called dirty bombs, use of mass-distruction weapons (the chemical or biological ones) could be increase.
The environmental damage would be even bigger than in the case of a single straight attack interrupted for power failure of military structures of the belligerants. Undervaluating the consequencies, military commanders could decide to bomb a place with a nuke attacks, then proceed in other places with chemical attacks, in a perverted chess-games of attacks and retorsive counterattacks, for a long period...
If such a conflict really occurs, i believe that it will be more similar to a sort of natural escalation of terrorist act conducted nomore by terrorist organization, but realized by governments with a stillicide of nuke attacks. The worst thing would be that such a worldwide nuclear conflict could be long and slow, with casual attacks without proviso on bigger cities and the employment of other weapons (conventional, chemical and bacteriological arms)...
After seeing this it makes me certain that if a nuclear bomb went off I'd want to be right within the 5 miles of it and die that way rather than fight for survival only to exist in this world.
It seems like the police and the army are doing their jobs as a way of keeping their sanity. A lot of their duties are pointless in the grand scheme of things.
The idea of nukes is not to win a war it is to stop another country nukeing yours. If you have enough nukes nobody dares to attack you with nukes. The USSR and Nato countries never had a war after the invention of nukes. Nukes work preventing war but in todays day and age a nuclear arsonal in the hands of an isamic extreamist country would change things.
5:30 - 6:00... Ruth's short "dream sequence" is to me the most poignant and painful part of the whole movie. Imagine what it would be like to wake up in that world every morning, at first in a bit of a daze and blissfully unaware, but quickly remembering the full and horrifying extent of what had happened. Every single morning for the rest of your life, tortured by the memories of what once was.
The odds of that man owning a firearm are extremely slim in the UK (and he would be breaking the law if he did). In the 80s NOBODY had a gun apart from organised thugs (and even their numbers were few) and certain sections of the London & Manchester police.
Today, the rules on firearms are even tougher - although more criminals own one completely illegally, and the police are also better equipped with firearms squads in abundance.
"Until"? Not exactly. There are those who lay up enough supplies to last until the worst of the radiation drops to safe levels. The heaviest contamination usually decays within 2-3 weeks.
It *is* possible to avoid the contaminated food, like so many of the survivors manage to.
Sigh. You don't seem to understand that radioactive fallout particles STAY radioactive even after they have "fallen out". They stay radioactive after your overly optimistic 2-3 weks.
Read up on half-lives of cesium-137, strontium-90, and other isotopes commonly produced in nuclear groundbursts. The residual radiation in your fallacious "safe" environment would go on to cause cancers of among other body areas the blood, bones, and thyroid.
Shot by who? The ineffective police? The army, with its ranks in complete chaos? Looters?
If he took practical steps, he could make any future approaches to his property extremely undesirable.
Hell, even the helicopters and small planes aren't immune to small arms fire-a couple well-placed shots from a deer rifle of moderate caliber can bring down even them.
Sure, shot by hungry looters, or anyone else desperate, even authority (such as it might be).
And your average der hunter doesn't have the marksmanship to bring down a low-flying aircraft, nor are rifles so great at hitting fast-moving targets.
The more you say, the less you show what you know. Ten more years of reading oughta clear up your muddle.
I *have* reading skills. Reading skills good enough, plus enough initiative to read a particular military manual titled "Small Arms Fire Against Moving Aircraft"; That particular manual, published by the Army, details the soft points on helicopters and attack aircraft.
As a secondary note, in most situations, a helicopter is going to be easier to hit than an F18; the helicopter is slower and presents itself as an easier target.
Pt2: Cessnas, cropdusters, piper-cubs... none of these have the speed or armor to defend from even a small volume of ground fire.
The avionics of "modern" fighter jets (especially targeting computers and the engine controls would be fried in the EMP surge, and the planes, being military in nature, would be vaporized as primary targets anyway.
As for "der hunters" (must be german) a lot of them practice not only on deer but on fast moving ducks and geese, as well as clays in the off season
Pt3: And the speed really doesn't matter a whole lot if the shot is lined up right, anyway; if the plane/helicopter it coming straight at you all you need to do is dump a couple shots into it straight above the nose. That's gonna be enough to deter even the most determined pilot.
Also, there have been stories from the Vietnam war (REPUTABLE sources) about planes beiong shot down with muskets, and pilots downing enemy aircraft with .45 cal handguns.
Well, if the government is comandeering every available aircraft (as they're seen doing in this movie) as well as every spare drop of fuel, who do you suppose is behind the stick? Santa Clause? Not likely. And what is the hover speed of a helicopter?
Also, look up the basic principle of marksmanship which dictates how much of a lead one must take on a moving target... for a traversing target (L2R or
When you watch this film, it's extremely disturbing to think about how much food is discarded by the grocery stores because it has a blemish of some sort...and how much more is wasted after it's purchased (whether privately or commercially). We take so much for granted...
OreadNYC 1 week ago
Moral of the story? At the very least own a fucking swiss army knife so you can at least open a fucking can of soup with some dignity.
aseglkj 3 months ago
Amazing how stuff like this brings out the wilfully ignorant rednecks.
BaboonLoveMonkey 3 months ago
@BaboonLoveMonkey
Because, thanks to a mis-interpretation of the US Constitution, the "Right to bear arms" includes a nuclear missile in your back yard.
When it was drafted - "right to bear arms" meant a sword and a one-shot-at-a-time musket.
But put it out of context in modern times, and it means Uzis and AK47s and Hand Grenades and Bazookas and Rocket Launchers and - yes - Nuclear Missiles.
Basically, the short-sighted US constitution gave any old half-wit the right to end the world.
jazzx251 2 months ago
3:30 - I bet various VIP's (i.e. PM's/Royalty/MPs/Presidents) would be tucking into a 3 course meal in their underground bunkers.
Steve10578 8 months ago
@Steve10578 Doubtful, given the near total collapse of agriculture following a nuclear war.
pytko3 8 months ago
I imagine the rats and insects would take care of all the dead. We'd become the blood-meal for the next generation of biology, in the shape of a rat-dropping. Quite a fitting end I shouldn't wonder.
TheWindowBeside 9 months ago
This can still happen because our leaders support US. What we get in return? Nothing. We should resign all cooperation with US.
155qwerty155 1 year ago
binky40sw shut up you wanksack
MrToffeecoffee 1 year ago
3:58 how can you taste radiation contamination?
WhiteLionness 1 year ago
why people expend so much energy on youtube comments is beyond me
ScreaminMadMurphy 1 year ago 2
At least there is a happy ending.
Oh, there isn't?
SHIT.
Kevster1993 1 year ago
@Kevster1993
LOL. Nope. No happy ending.
MrsNorris55 1 year ago
My recomendation in this genre is to read WARDAY. It details likely political, economic, military and health matters associated with life after a limited nuclear exchange between the soviets and the US/NATO on October 26 1988. It details life 8 years after. Full of hard numbers and best guess work based on research available at the time of the novel(mid-80's)
letslipthedogs 1 year ago
Wanna Know what its like to live through a nuke war? ask a country that has!!!! Japan!!!
TheBoHoBoy 1 year ago
apparently binky plays to many video games to know what the real was like and for some one to think they know it all just try stepping out of ur own country for change u weekend wanna be if u knew about the first thing about survive u wouldn't be on here running ur stupid ass mouth so reply back t to me i don't give a rats ass yes i am am american yes i did serve in the military but i say this in a nuclear war alot resources would be damage this movie by is a great movie
pizzaman147 1 year ago
2:43 i suppose a big mac with fries is out of the question then?
adamdd09 1 year ago
@adamdd09
Sorry, LOL. Care for some raw sheep instead?
:-)
MrsNorris55 1 year ago
It's amazing all the idiocy I see as I read the comments.
"Threads" was the greatest film of its genre-the equal of The War Game 1964.
If you are not tramautized an moved by this movie you are either:
1) In denial
2) stupid
3) a combination of both.
And I'm American. We have lots of the above......
johnbarleycornmd 1 year ago
@johnbarleycornmd
Threads was a good -- and traumatic and hard to watch -- film. I haven't seen The War Game 1964. Will have to look for it on your recommendation.
My only criticism of Threads is it showed no warmth or humour post attack.
I realize both of these would be in short supply. However, it's human nature -- literally encoded in our genes -- to exhibit such traits. I'm sure you'd still see the odd smile and hear the odd laugh from some people even in grim times.
ChristophDollis 1 year ago
I just want to say that if nuclear war happens--and it might considering the shit going on all the time with Russia and China--we're all fucked. In the ass.
KingGopherNuts 1 year ago
This is what the bankers will do to Britain.
Relugus 1 year ago
that sheep would probably be contaminated theyd need a geig;er counter
Guynumber7 1 year ago
I'm surprised the group who was shoved into that man's house allowed themselves to be thrown out ... given that they outnumbered him 4 to 1.
MrsNorris55 2 years ago
"Return to your homes, turn back!"
Cue chorus of " fuck off!"
markoj34 2 years ago
"How shall we fuck off, oh lord?" [/Monty Python]
Binky40SW 1 year ago
What ever happened to Jimmy?
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
Dead down the drain
gweflj 2 years ago
@ThoughtTraveler if im not mistaken he was outside when the bombs hit and died instantly
Guynumber7 1 year ago
survival rule number one, have a good can opener
.29sec.
number two. 3 months of canned foods
noreaster08 2 years ago
That soldier at 7:40 looks like a survivor of Agincourt..
anisete46 2 years ago
Look if there is going to be a nuclear (probly not ) we cant do anything but hope and pray
makintoshie 2 years ago
They are complaining about fuel shortages and they are running planes in order to just tell people to go back to where they came from?
What a way to piss away supplies...
skamp25 2 years ago
but i agree with the both of you all on most of the things you said
pizzaman147 2 years ago
it does not matter which countries are our allies it is a no win scenario in a nuclear war there is nothing left of society before the war happens all governments will blame someone an society willfall apart it wont go gracefully like past civilizations we seen in mankinds history and blinky to wiilliams wilson answer it was one we nuked
pizzaman147 2 years ago
4:35 milark cakes
soulfader 2 years ago
Binky40SW - Fuck off. Please, just fuck off. You've filled 11 of these Threads videos so far with your chauvinistic American crap. Nobody likes you. You talk complete shit. Stop trolling with your infantile survivalist fantasies as you type at a computer in complete comfort.
beastatlay 2 years ago 21
Aaaaaannnnd,
go fuck yourself. 90% of the world experienced some level of freedom because of the USAs intervention at one time or another in history.
So, fuck you. Next time there's a hurricane, or Earthquake, or other disaster in your country, fuck yourself. Don't bother asking the US for help in ANY way shape or form.
If I had it my way, you'd all be on your own.
To recap: Go fuck yourself.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
williamwilson666 2 years ago 2
Which ones are the most free, and the most likely to side with the USA when it's really needed?
I'll give you a hint; it's the two we bitch-slapped in WW2 by nuking them.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Dear God, I hope the few books you have read were safely chewable.
williamwilson666 2 years ago
Uh huh... like various tomes on "History" or "Government", or stuff like that?
Maybe the history that includes world wars one and two; how we won them by going in with intent to win, or how Vietnam was lost because of a bunch of liberal pussies who wanted to handle the enemy with kid leather gloves...
Yeah, I've read a little more than you'd expect, and I'm a lot more knowledgable.
BTW, you never answered my question. Which cities from your list are in a country that is now our ally?
Binky40SW 2 years ago
No. You are just as knowledgable as I'd expect.
williamwilson666 2 years ago
Right. I bet you believe in the global warming lies and that 9-11 was an inside job, to, don't you genius?
Polar bears are dying, Bush kills little babies in their sandboxes, and America is evil evil EEEEEEEVIIIIIIIIL!
And so, piss off, wanker.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
I wouldn't worry. the more babies he kills the more "freedom" they have.
Truly, I didn't think you could possibly exceed the insight and intellect demonstrated in previous posts. I was wrong to underestimate the determination of the American stereotype. Apologies.
williamwilson666 2 years ago
Why can't you answer my question, anyway? Which nation's cities that you've mentioned above are now our Allies? Which one?
Until you answer that particular question, I will have dismissed you as a typical liberal who will not answer the question presented to him.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
You will? That would almost be relevant if I hadn't dismissed you as an idiot before the question was posed. Which, admittedly, is the closest you have threatened to wander near relevancy thus far.
williamwilson666 2 years ago
Answer the question.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
@Binky40SW
comunisin is a ready made practice for americain idealogy
gimpyraver 2 years ago
Riiiiiight... so many commie shitholes allow free speech. So many commie shitholes allow a person to achieve great things based on their own hard work and merit.
Oh, wait, they don't? Suppression of free speech? Gulags? Execution of political dissidents? Socailism? Didn't realize that's the kind of shit that happens every day in America.
Fuckin' idiot.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
can you maybe learn to spell under communism?
anisete46 2 years ago 2
you stupid little right-wing prick. there wouldnt be half the wars if right wing america didnt exist....you shit!!
musicalglenn 2 years ago
Do *YOU* want to answer my question? The answer is obvious.
Here's another really really easy one-when the shiot hit the fan and a natural disaster wip[es out a village in some third world shitpot that some people insist on calling a country, who's one of the nations that sends the most aid and does it the fastest?
(A little hint; it's also the only country who ever dropped a nuke on an enemy in warfare. )
Binky40SW 2 years ago
@Binky40SW
america is main cause of gfobal depression and its greed for oil has created third world countries america was born at the retardation of a drunk englishmen america is a third world country u stupid prick
ps who beat the seeemingly unbeatable army during a conflict in the far east ehhh was the vc against the weak usa
gimpyraver 2 years ago
The only reason we didn't stom,p them flat was because of liberal socialist pussies dictating foreign policy.
We could have stomped the VC flat... bitch-slapped them and sent them crying back to their rathole tunnels in north vietnam if we'd really wanted to win the war.
The war was lost by liberal pussies, not the American military.
Liberal faggots.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
As for America being a third world country, fagboy, who developed the internet, who advanced modern medicine to where it is today (it seems to me that people from all of the world come to one of the premier medical facilities in the world, the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN.), and exactly what country are people struggling to get into every day? Why do you suppose hundreds flee that commie shitpot "paradise" known as cuba to come to what you call a "third world" America even at the risk of death?
Binky40SW 2 years ago
the internet was developed a english man but still good comment
hardrinker1989 2 years ago
Facts to back that up? It seems to me based on the information that I have that the internet has its roots as far back as the 50's and 60s in the DARPA and ARPA nets.
And *IF* it was an "englishman" that developed the internet he did it in America, for the US military.
So, try again, with relevant information.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
He is citing Tim Berners-Lee, or whoever it is that first used HTML. But not in England.
cm2dude 2 years ago 2
tim berners lee is the man credited with inventing the world wide web and he did it at cern it had nothing to do with the usa
hardrinker1989 2 years ago
Uhhh, try the conceptr of the internet, invented in California by the ARPANET and DARPANET. Both projects, ironically, to provide a way to communicate and stomp the shit out of our adversary in the event of a nuclear attack.
As for HTML, that's irrelevant... there was a backbone network in place for a long time before HTML found a network to work on.
So, nice try with the red herring. Try the TRUE origins of the internet. You know, the one invented by Americans.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
well full respect to you for knowing your stuff but i think we can both agree that the internet was started by a british invention the telephone
hardrinker1989 2 years ago
Uhhh, no. Not a british invention. *Refined* by the british, maybe; but concieved and initially developed in the United States.
As for the telephone... are you suggesting that is wasn't invented by Bell? Sure, it might have been *proposed* by earlier scientists, but when it comes to "dreaming" and "doing", which do you suppose is more effective?
So, are you delusional, or just deliberately obtuse?
Binky40SW 2 years ago
look mate lets end this hear lets both agree that britain and the us have came up with some of the greatest scientific discoveries af all time and we have worked together on a lot of them and lets hope we continue this relashionship we have
hardrinker1989 2 years ago
Well, it's sad to say but you guys have kinda lost your way over there...
Just look at some of the assinine laws-ban on private ownership of firearms, banning "pointy" kitchen knives, harrasing people taking photographs as potential terrorists, trying to pass carte blanche laws that make it illegal to photgraph/take video of police officers performing their public duty...
I could go on and on...
I'm sure you're a nice guy, and you live in what was a great country in the past.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
its not all that bad if your over 18 you can buy a kitchen knive and as for guns you can buy a shotgun but not a pistol and i have never heard of the photograph thing the thing is with the weapons is theres a lot of killing going on lately but your country has faults to so much more crime than over here but you have now got a good new president so i hope things pick up but all said and done i wish you and your country the best of luck for the future cheers mate
hardrinker1989 2 years ago
Obamas a fuckin commie who needs to be dealt with like the treasonous dog he is.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
and why do you think that is i mean from your so called all american point of view
hardrinker1989 2 years ago
He's selling us out to those who would kill us for no other reason than the fact that we are a free society that doesn't oppress our women. He's taking from those who work and giving it away to those who refuse to pull their weight. He has on occasion said he wishes he could do away with the freedom of speech if he could, so that he doesn't have to listen to his critics.
No, obammy's no "great man" that people think he is; in fact he's more devisive than any other man whos held the office.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
mmmm yeah you make a good point there so for some reason im thinking you was a g.w bush man ?
hardrinker1989 2 years ago
Shut up, Binky, nobody cares.
Kainlarsen 2 years ago
Right. If nobody cares, why are they reading these comments? In fact, why are *you* reading these comments?
Loser.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Did I make you cry?
Sorry.
Kainlarsen 2 years ago
Riiiiight. I'm sure you can do better than that... like something that actually contributes to the discussion (much like what I have to say) or a rebuttal from any of the other commenters (as deeply flawed as their reasoning may be-or as baseless).
So, try again.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
you really are the kind of guy who thinks you know every thing and that your always right and you wont listen to any one elses opinion it just goes in one ear and out the other with you you really are the definition of an arrogant pretentious american prick i have tryed to be civil with you but i cant you are nothing but a wanker a boring little wanker
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
I listen to opinions, but those opinions have to have at least *some* basis in reality.
I always hear lazy bastards complaining about America. Our foreign policy, our standard of living, the rights we have...
But when the shit hits the fan, we're the first ones asked to give foreign aid (ie Haiti) or military aid (WW1 and WW2 ring a bell?). When it comes to standard of living, we have people literally risking their lives to be here.
I have a serious problem thinking we're so bad.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
...And as arrogant as I am, I'm not fabricating "facts" to make my point...
The internet was invented in America, developed with the military in mind. DARPANET. ARPANET. Maybe a snaggle toothed brit wrote som code to exploit or popularize it, but the backbone was already there... made in America.
The Telephone? Invented in America; right here in Boston where my forefathers first bitch-slapped your forefathers and sent them packing.
These are facts.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
listen you prick we british won ww1 with very little help from you i like americans but you are a prick and thats all there is to it you are a wanker
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
Wow. I thought you, at least, might be able to do better that childish insults, what with all your "superior" British intellegence and culture.
If you don't like what I have to say, why are you even reading my comments? Why aren't you drinking a cup of tea or singing "God Save the Queen" or something?
As for WW1, we *did* bail your ass out; but your country has really lost so much character in the last century I wonder if the sacrifices my grandfather made for you losers was worth it.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
is this what this is all about prick your grandad getting killed this is not about are countrys here all im saying is your a wanker nothing to do with a country you are a wanker nothing more nothing less thank god i was born a gypsy we dont have cunts like you in my people you boring little prick
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
It's about fuckers like you with no gratitude whatsoever.
America kept you free on more than one occasion. If you're truly a gypsy we saved your ass form being melted to slag in on of hitlers ovens.
You and your country are fucked up. You've let the nanny-state faggoty liberal bullshit corrupt you.
There's a reason the UK is no longer the great empire it once was.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
im more than grateful for the help but im not the one waving the flag here why cant you get get it through your thick fucking head that im not talking about which country is better all im trying to say is you are an insulting little wanker get this through your head you fucking cunt cant wait for the day china takes you over
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
and one more thing you obnoxious prick so far the uk has lost 264 of our boys fighting your war and you fucking dare to call me ungrateful when all you do is insult my country to me your just a nothing but a little joke who has no real life who has to sit on his computer talking about how good america is just to make himself feel good i feel sorry for you mate you cant have many friends with the way you look at the world
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
"Our" war?
*OUR* war? Lemme guess; you're one of those people who think that either 9/11 was an inside job, or we somehow provoked the terrorists to fly planes into our buildings.
You probably also agreed with Sadam when he gassed 10,000 of his own people.
That just proves the content of your character, or the lack of it.
264, huh? What was the combined American death toll for both World Wars 1 and 2?
I'd say the score isn't even close to even.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
no i dont think it was an inside job what so ever but look mate i have said me piece you know what i think of you and thats all that matters and lets face it your army aint that good i mean look when you got the shit kicked out of you by vietnam and that was the most shameful defeat in history i bet you feel so ashamed over how hard the russians where laughing at you
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
The war in 'Nam could have been one with one, maybe two 1 Megaton warheads. Couple of firecrackers, really. It would have made "rolling thunder" look like a fart in a phone booth.
Unfortunately we let a bunch of bleeding heart liberal pussies dictate our foreign policy; we let them steer us away from the truth that *TOTAL* war is what wins wars.
They tied the hands of the generals that know in order to win a war you have to crush the opposition, whether it wears a uniform or not.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
yeah but you do know if the us did that it would have caused world war 3 the united nations would have comdemed you so would the soviets the uk might have sided with you and then the us the uk and the soviets would have blown each other to the stone age lets at least agree on this
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
Yeah, Fuck the UN. They're just another organization bent on destroying national sovereignty; a lot of their "leaders" are the same liberal faggot bleeding heart pussies that dictated the policy that lost Vietnam.
We should have nuked russia in the late 40s/early 50s anyway, as soon as they refused to back out of the european countries they were occupying.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
@Binky40SW you wont be saying that when an enemy from a 'total war' shoves a bayonet up you're arse
daniboi12345 1 year ago
@daniboi12345 .270 Winchester-Keeps adversaries at bay to at least 400 yards. High energy, flat trajectory. One shot one kill. .223, several 30 round magazines. Keeps those missed by the .270 at bay, at least out of pistol range. .45, .40, 9mm, .38 Spc... for the stubborn persistant types who don't take the hint and try to get into bayonet range. In a total societal collapse and vacuum of government-any level of field expedient IEDs, obstacles and boobytraps.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
@Binky40SW You know why MacArthur was recalled from Korea? Because he was on the verge of fucking it up. He upcannoned conventionally until the Chinese were compelled to go in and was planning to go nuclear, which would have sparked a nuclear response from China AND probably Russia too.
What you're talking about would simply have changed the USSR and China's involvement in Vietnam from covert and advisory to full participation. It's a really shitty country to have WWIII over, don't you think?
Apolloin 1 year ago
@Binky40SW: Wow! Just read a few of your 'informed' comments and I'm amazed people like you still exist in this enlightened age, I have a few questions...
1: How is it possible you can be a man in your thirties and still as ignorant as pigshit?
2: Do you have an unhealthy obsession with firearms? (I'm guessing I already know the answer to this one...right 'Cleatus'?)
3: Do you have an even more unhealthy obsession with your sister?
4: Do you possess: A) A Mullet. B) A Pick-up. C) Both
Pheonixfromtheshale 1 year ago 28
@Pheonixfromtheshale Uh huh... I watch our country being run into the ground by a socialist dictator and show concern and *I'M* the ignorant one? Try again.
Define unhealthy obsession, wanker... remember what Freud said about fear of weapons?
As for my sisters, I've made a promise to myself to defend them against all threats, wherever they may come from.
Same haircut I had when I was in the military, and I enjoy driving a gas-guzzling SUV, thanks.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
@Binky40SW: "I watch our country being run into the ground by a socialist dictator" - Go and look up the dictionary definition of the words 'Socialist' and 'Dictator' - not only are they completely contradictory to each other and therefore make no sense in the context of your laughable little outburst, but it's also nowhere near the truth of the political climate you're living in - Thats what the majority voted for - thats what you got! it's called DEMOCRACY you inbred hillbilly fuckwit
Pheonixfromtheshale 1 year ago
@Pheonixfromtheshale Socialism-"To each according to his needs from each according to his abilities." Sounds right to me, with welfare for the ones who refuse to work, healthcare forthe ones who don't want to spend one dime of their own, entitlements for the ones who do little or nothing; all; of it paid for by me and the thousands of people like me who have a job. THAT is socialism.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
@Binky40SW
Socialism is instinct.
It means looking after those that can't look after themselves, and paying taxes to do it.
The alternative is Capitalism - where the top dog siphons off all the cash leaving his slaves with next to nothing.
Luckily - there's government, who set minimum wages - so that the slaves might have a basic standard of living.
That's the way things are.
Communism was a failed attempt to escape that gross inequality which still exists today.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@Pheonixfromtheshale Obammy shuts down and doesn't allow any kind of open debate, and any time someone attempts to ask questions in an open forum, they're dragged out by armed thugs. He's taking over private businesses left and right and suggesting that certain inalienable rights don't exist. THAT is a dictator.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
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@Binky40SW
I agree that nigger hates white people! Obama-hitler said that whites must pay half of their salary to black welfare coons! Look it up on youtube, Obammy also said the word honkey to Joe Biden! Niggers are always crying about racism, go back to Ape-Africa! Gay white power! Fuck niggers!
gaywhitecockcum 1 year ago
@gaywhitecockcum why are you racisit?
FsimulatorX 1 year ago
@Binky40SW: By the way, next time your cleaning your shotgun (I've no doubt an inadequate like you owns several of them) make sure it's loaded and the barrel's in your mouth. You'll be doing the gene pool a favour and I seriously doubt you'll be missed ;-)
Pheonixfromtheshale 1 year ago 7
@Pheonixfromtheshale Not gonna happen in the wettest of your wet dreams, wanker (*although, truth be told, I feel a little behind the curve with only three shotguns). See, there's this thing most liberals no nothing about called "morality" where we do the right thing-protecting our loved ones is on that list-and I couldn't do that if I chose to snuff it. That and my religion forbids it.
As for shotguns, now ya got me thinking... how much does a double barrel 12 ga cost?
Binky40SW 1 year ago
@Binky40SW: Lol! You're obviously one of these yank-plank wackjobs who babble on about the supposed 'New World Order' and cook up ficticious bogeymen in order to try and justify your own xenophobic ultra right wing agenda. God knows why I'm wasting time communing with such over-armed and under-educated detritus like yourself.
I look forward to seeing you on the news in the near future when the next US highschool massacre happens - freak.
Pheonixfromtheshale 1 year ago 2
@Pheonixfromtheshale Riiight... like the NWO whackjobs who said Bush was the anti-christ, who said 9/11 was an inside job, how Katrina was Bush's fault... how *ALL* the evils of the world could be blamed on some vast right-wing conspiracy?
Under-educated, huh? How would you know that? Just because you've gone to college that doesn't mean you're "educated"... and "over-armed" is a matter of opinion held by a sexually immature hopolophobe.
Binky40SW 1 year ago
@Binky40SW listen mate. if the bomb did drop you would probably either get fried or die of staravation or get such a heavy dose you would want to die and probably would or die from some other shit...unless you live under a montain
wageslave2008 1 year ago
@Binky40SW what happens when you are out of ammo & cant find any more shells....not to mention that you would either be irradiated, suffering from shock, burns, blast injuries, weakened immunity,dehydrayted etc...i think you havent REALY thought this one out......might as well top you self now ..preferably pack yourself in a couple of bin liners now..leave your id on the outside of the body bag
wageslave2008 1 year ago
you don't ? thats why i was robbed by some gypsys in france and again in ireland (called tinkerers their)
merrittolsen 1 year ago
im an english travler mate and we are nothing like the french and the irish
hardrinker1989 1 year ago
@Binky40SW Standard of living is generally higher in Northern Europe and Canada.
brwhizz 1 year ago
@Binky40SW lol american redneck is funny!
evildogheretic 1 year ago
I believe the even survivor man would have a bloody right time trying to survive this shit.
HuasoPodrido 2 years ago
that old bastard was a right shit throwing them out.
rocksoliddude1 2 years ago
It's when things get really tough that people's true colors show through - It reminds me of a Woody Guthrie dust bowl song called "Dusty Old Dust (So Long It's Been Good To Know Yuh)" In it, the preacher calls everyone to the church - takes the collection, then leaved town!
"...Now, the telephone rang, an' it jumped off the wall,
That was the preacher, a-makin' his call.
He said, Kind friend, this may the end;
An' you got your last chance of salvation of sin!...
FolkFaves 2 years ago
"The churches was jammed, and the churches was packed,
An' that dusty old dust storm blowed so black.
Preacher could not read a word of his text,
An' he folded his specs, an' he took up collection,
Said: So long, it's been good to know yuh;
So long, it's been good to know yuh;
So long, it's been good to know yuh.
This dusty old dust is a-gettin' my home,
And I got to be driftin' along."
It's $ort of why most of the big time preacher$ do not $pend a lot of time working with people in prision!
FolkFaves 2 years ago
Most likely they would in reality kill him immediately and stay there.
schusterlehrling 2 years ago
You idiots have no idea. You US guys (idiot posters not all US posters) think hill billy living will get you through? Have a couple pieces? The Russkies could drop 2000 5 megaton bombs on the continental US. I know you would trash them too. Tell me who won after.
5000433 2 years ago
I suppose I'd try and join the police/military if I survived. At least I'd be assured regular rations!
jackoflava 2 years ago 2
@jackoflava you and everyone else
Guynumber7 1 year ago
that's sick eating a sheep raw,i would have at least started a fire and cooked the meat.
metalocalypse06 2 years ago
Question is....with what?......
MrSoprano0125 2 years ago 2
i thought about that after i posted lol
metalocalypse06 2 years ago
all the wood is contamnated from fallout, sadly, you'd just make yourself even more sick.
DaytonaRoadster 2 years ago
2:20 Why don't they kill the old man and eat him?
19996669991 2 years ago
@19996669991 Exactly my thoughts.
nimitzclass 1 year ago
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Damn right. Wouldn't even need to give him *both* barrels, just one. The other interlopers would have been hauling ass before the dead cop hit the ground and the blood stopped pattering down on the ground.
Wouldn't have needed a second shot.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Yeah, but that wouldn't exactly make for an engaging drama.
No doubt the US, Soviet Union, and most of Europe would be a smoldering, glossy parking lot. I think they chose this setup as it was "on the fringe" (relatively speaking); similarly why they chose Kansas City for "The Day After" so they could show the city itself, nearby rural areas, and the University of Kansas, each affected differently.
In terms of realism and certainly forecasting long-term, 'Threads' does much better.
rugbynimbus 2 years ago
this is bullshit. where are the Russians for one thing or were they blown away completly? and what, pray, is everyone going to drink? radioactive water? If you look at the total yield that Britain would have got there wouldnt have been anything left standing.
gluepot66 2 years ago
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You're absolutely right... this entire thing *is* bullshit. That's possibly one of the best comments made about this entire movie.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Does anyone know the equivalent of the Chernobyl disaster in kilotons? What would have been the power of the nuclear device detonated in order to acheive the same amount of radiation?
benghiz 2 years ago
The situations are not comparable. Firstly radiation from a nuclear reactor doesn't contain exactly the same isotopes as those from a nuclear weapon and the spread would be more limited,unless there was a vast explosion, unlikely,certainly not a question of kilotons.this doesn't diminish the horrific effects of the Chernobyl accident, but the majority of reactors is much safer than the combined nuclear weapons in the world today, including those in Pakistan, Israel, India, and elsewhere..
anisete46 2 years ago 2
Bullseye brand barbeque sauce was made for this specific situation (when babies must be eaten).
IrishLincoln 2 years ago
Well that is true. Not even the end of the world can stop the big, bold taste of Bull's-Eye...
CrazyPeepers 2 years ago 2
6 weeks the end of the world in 6 weeks?
TURBODORK2 2 years ago
Thta's what they said 6 weeks ago
IrishLincoln 2 years ago
To anyone not from the US -- or that may care -- let me state that the majority of the laughable opinions presented by some of my fellow Americans do not represent the majority of Americans themselves.
These are the same type of redneck, head-in-the-sand, self-deceptive, Branson-Missouri-vacationing, WalMart-shoppers that not only elected Bush twice, but generally serve as the cholesterol in the arteries of our society.
My apologies that you have to put up with them, too.
rugbynimbus 2 years ago
At least us "rednecks" didn't elect a leader who shakes hands with despots and dictators. If I'm the cholesterol, you must be the piss.
justastraycat 2 years ago
Yes, clearly you are the finest we have to offer. I stand corrected.
rugbynimbus 2 years ago
i agree
im sick of red necks
trucks '
beer
faking a back injury to score welfare
underage sex with 40 year olds
tralier homes that depreciate in value
i have to put up with this
in corinth Ny
jakethreesixty 2 years ago
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Yeah. The "rednecks" are the ones who you'll be begging for help if there's ever a wide-scale disaster.
They're the ones who know how to hunt, to fish, to plant a garden... they're the ones who know how to change their oil or change their alternator. They're the ones who can change a flat or fill a gas tank on the side of the road.
When the phones are out and the internet doesn't work, when the police tell you you're on your own and the supermarket shelves have been looted bare
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Binky40SW 2 years ago
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Pt. 2:
the rednecks will still be eating fresh food. If they don't have it they'll know where to get it.
Good luck in the cities. Good luck defending yourself against the looters with a little can of pepper-spray, and good luck calling for help with that cell-phone when the lines go down. Good luck using your PDA or your laptop when the battery has died, and good luck going to McDonalds when the power goes out and there's no drive-thru service.
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Binky40SW 2 years ago
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Binky40SW 2 years ago
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Pt. 3:
When the natural gas isn't flowing and when the electricity's off, the rednecks will be safe and warm in their living room with the fireplace or the wood stove.
If the redneck loses his home, he knows how to survive in the woods, sometimes for an extended period. And rednecks stick together-one neighbor looks out for the other. Consider it a highly-motivated and well-trained neighborhood watch, with shotguns.
Rednecks will survive in the face of just about any peril.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Ho ho ho. Don't get me started about rednecks... bible-masturbating, inbred, illiterate trailer trash with guns...
bromfietsen666 2 years ago
So let me get this straight. A woman taking her child to day care at her place of employment is a combatant with a hostage?
I was in the Gulf in 91, and Bosnia in 93, but I never met anyone who hates Americans the way you do.
You are cleary the domestic enemy the oath speaks of. You are one deluded security guard...
Lgilsig 2 years ago
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Apparently, *you* hate Americans. *TRUE* Americans. How many acts of fratricide did you commit, traitor?
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Hunting, fishing, gardening -- I'm afraid the redneck holds no exclusive rights to any of these. Nor to the ability to survive or defend themselves. You posit in grand generalizations, but they have no basis nor merit.
Actually, rednecks will be among the first to self-destruct, thanks to years of promoting distrust and eschewing convention, they will be at one another's throats in fairly short order when, ignorant and scared, they find the only ones left to fear are one another.
Enjoy.
rugbynimbus 2 years ago
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The rednecks will hjave the drive and the ability to adjust simply because it's a way of life for them to deal with adversity. They know that planting a garden doesn't mean a window box full of herbs and tomatoes. They know that hunting isn't something you do once a year and then only if you're motivated to do so and you can get out of the latest office meeting to do it.
Sorry, city dwellers are soft, and will be among the first to go up in a painless white light. So long.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Zed (from Pulp Fiction)? is that you? That's all humanity needs is to have more inbreeding within the redneck community. You have no clue what "life" would be like after a nuclear exchange.
The survivalists (who, by the way, have wet dreams about the end of civilization) would last a bit longer than the tech-heads, would be wiped out too.
The people who love to watch/read apocalyptic stories, are those who are beaten down by modern life that they dream of a day when they could have power.
FolkFaves 2 years ago
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cibernete1974 2 years ago
In that case, the snaking progression of destruction could elude all serious diplomatic measure of prevention. And, even worst, all serious diplomatic effort to put an end to the war would not have any recognizable diplomatic counterpart. The larger would be the distruction of any high military centre of command, the harder the peace would be to be gained. At the top of the war, a sort of mind-change would be necessary. And surely it could be to late for such a mind-change.
cibernete1974 2 years ago
World could be at war without any real perception of the moment the war practicely started. First, strong, massive "terroristic" acts; then provocative and aggressive diplomacy; then local, or "periferic" nuke attacks and counter-attacks; then nuke bombing or "terroristic" chemical-biological contamination of more important targets (retorsive attacks against civilian population or strategical attacks against military and industrial structures)...
cibernete1974 2 years ago
While the straight attack could be a real eventuality during the cold war, the actual war against terrorism has changed the perspective of a third worldwide conflict. If a local nuke conflict occurs for example in Near East between Teheran and Jerusalem, or between Pakistan and India, in days random attacks, "terroristic" acts of bombing with so called dirty bombs, use of mass-distruction weapons (the chemical or biological ones) could be increase.
cibernete1974 2 years ago
The environmental damage would be even bigger than in the case of a single straight attack interrupted for power failure of military structures of the belligerants. Undervaluating the consequencies, military commanders could decide to bomb a place with a nuke attacks, then proceed in other places with chemical attacks, in a perverted chess-games of attacks and retorsive counterattacks, for a long period...
cibernete1974 2 years ago
If such a conflict really occurs, i believe that it will be more similar to a sort of natural escalation of terrorist act conducted nomore by terrorist organization, but realized by governments with a stillicide of nuke attacks. The worst thing would be that such a worldwide nuclear conflict could be long and slow, with casual attacks without proviso on bigger cities and the employment of other weapons (conventional, chemical and bacteriological arms)...
cibernete1974 2 years ago
After seeing this it makes me certain that if a nuclear bomb went off I'd want to be right within the 5 miles of it and die that way rather than fight for survival only to exist in this world.
camblunt100 2 years ago
Reminds me of Ingmar Berman's "Seventh Seal."
Nicecatholicgirl 2 years ago
It seems like the police and the army are doing their jobs as a way of keeping their sanity. A lot of their duties are pointless in the grand scheme of things.
wvd1979 2 years ago
The idea of nukes is not to win a war it is to stop another country nukeing yours. If you have enough nukes nobody dares to attack you with nukes. The USSR and Nato countries never had a war after the invention of nukes. Nukes work preventing war but in todays day and age a nuclear arsonal in the hands of an isamic extreamist country would change things.
NielsShoe 2 years ago 2
5:30 - 6:00... Ruth's short "dream sequence" is to me the most poignant and painful part of the whole movie. Imagine what it would be like to wake up in that world every morning, at first in a bit of a daze and blissfully unaware, but quickly remembering the full and horrifying extent of what had happened. Every single morning for the rest of your life, tortured by the memories of what once was.
GammyGoose 2 years ago 10
Two cops and a handful of survivors? All the old man would have needed was two shots from a 12 ga side by side, one into each cop.
The "civilian" survivors would have decided there were better places to take up residence when they saw he was serious about defending what was his.
Binky40SW 3 years ago
The odds of that man owning a firearm are extremely slim in the UK (and he would be breaking the law if he did). In the 80s NOBODY had a gun apart from organised thugs (and even their numbers were few) and certain sections of the London & Manchester police.
Today, the rules on firearms are even tougher - although more criminals own one completely illegally, and the police are also better equipped with firearms squads in abundance.
jazzx251 2 years ago
god bless the NRA, huh!?
That's one of the things that makes the US such a great nation; our right to defend ourselves!
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Until you ingest radioactive dust. They your bullets won't do a thing except end your own misery.
El135o 2 years ago
"Until"? Not exactly. There are those who lay up enough supplies to last until the worst of the radiation drops to safe levels. The heaviest contamination usually decays within 2-3 weeks.
It *is* possible to avoid the contaminated food, like so many of the survivors manage to.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Sigh. You don't seem to understand that radioactive fallout particles STAY radioactive even after they have "fallen out". They stay radioactive after your overly optimistic 2-3 weks.
Read up on half-lives of cesium-137, strontium-90, and other isotopes commonly produced in nuclear groundbursts. The residual radiation in your fallacious "safe" environment would go on to cause cancers of among other body areas the blood, bones, and thyroid.
There's no safe level after so many groundbursts.
El135o 2 years ago
Oh, then the old man would be shyot ttwo hours,days, or weeks later. Better to prevent such a war from happening.
El135o 2 years ago
Shot by who? The ineffective police? The army, with its ranks in complete chaos? Looters?
If he took practical steps, he could make any future approaches to his property extremely undesirable.
Hell, even the helicopters and small planes aren't immune to small arms fire-a couple well-placed shots from a deer rifle of moderate caliber can bring down even them.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Sure, shot by hungry looters, or anyone else desperate, even authority (such as it might be).
And your average der hunter doesn't have the marksmanship to bring down a low-flying aircraft, nor are rifles so great at hitting fast-moving targets.
The more you say, the less you show what you know. Ten more years of reading oughta clear up your muddle.
El135o 2 years ago
I *have* reading skills. Reading skills good enough, plus enough initiative to read a particular military manual titled "Small Arms Fire Against Moving Aircraft"; That particular manual, published by the Army, details the soft points on helicopters and attack aircraft.
As a secondary note, in most situations, a helicopter is going to be easier to hit than an F18; the helicopter is slower and presents itself as an easier target.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Pt2: Cessnas, cropdusters, piper-cubs... none of these have the speed or armor to defend from even a small volume of ground fire.
The avionics of "modern" fighter jets (especially targeting computers and the engine controls would be fried in the EMP surge, and the planes, being military in nature, would be vaporized as primary targets anyway.
As for "der hunters" (must be german) a lot of them practice not only on deer but on fast moving ducks and geese, as well as clays in the off season
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Pt3: And the speed really doesn't matter a whole lot if the shot is lined up right, anyway; if the plane/helicopter it coming straight at you all you need to do is dump a couple shots into it straight above the nose. That's gonna be enough to deter even the most determined pilot.
Also, there have been stories from the Vietnam war (REPUTABLE sources) about planes beiong shot down with muskets, and pilots downing enemy aircraft with .45 cal handguns.
It CAN be done.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Good for you, you caught (and made an isult about) a typo!
Why would rural types want to waste bullets on single-engine pleasure arcraft? (Which, btw, cruise at 100+ MPH).
Snicker, yeah, ducks on takeoff are at 90-150 MPH. And they cruise at 3000-10000 ft. Hooboy, save the homestead!
El135o 2 years ago
Well, if the government is comandeering every available aircraft (as they're seen doing in this movie) as well as every spare drop of fuel, who do you suppose is behind the stick? Santa Clause? Not likely. And what is the hover speed of a helicopter?
Also, look up the basic principle of marksmanship which dictates how much of a lead one must take on a moving target... for a traversing target (L2R or