Can someone tell how its possible to hit a fade that starts right of the target and ends left of the aim and the wind is not a factor?? I think its time to revise the name of this video @TGAofAmerica
To be honest i don't think it would have made a huge difference if he was in a divot or not as he has so much muscle and power he can just hit from practically any lie.
for the love of god, change the title of this video....he is playing a TRAP DRAW here....please people, the ball obviously starts in the middle of the green and ends up stiff next to a tucked left pin.....he "held off the blade" because he was keepin the flight down....thats it...
I think everyone forget to mention where he's aiming and the ol high finish, which if you ever heard Tiger speak about how to hit these shot's It usually emulates a fade.
it looks more like a draw from the way the ball moved since the ball was so far back in his stance for a 7-iron. the ball went right to left. however, the ball also stopped instantly, meaing that he created spin, and the only way to get that much spin, was to push the ball into the front lip of the divot, compressing it until it releases. so it looks like to me that it's a trap draw.
defintely a draw. if the ball is that far back in the stance and he returns his hands to the same spot at impact as at address, the clubface is going to be well shut. So by holding off the release of the blade, the draw is more controlled and doesn't shoot left.
@Gupps0123456 The clubface is not shut when you are hitting a draw the clubface is actually open and shut when you are hitting a fade. The clubface is closed relative to the swingpath which means the swingpath goes out more to the left than the clubface does so to speak. You curve the golfball with the swingpath and you start the golfball with the clubface. The draw starts right of the target then it draws back this shot can only be achieved with a in to out swing path and a open clubface.
@f0cusen You have explained the exact opposite of how to work the ball?! Draw = inside-to-outside swingpath with clubface shut relative to swingpath and on line with target. Fade = outside-to-inside swingpath with clubface open relative to swingpath and on line with target.
@shitskadoodle No he's actually right, trackman has proven that the ball starts mainly in the direction of the face(about 80% slightly, less with shorter, more lofted clubs) Tiger was only told this information this year and it has been known for quite a few years now... Hence when someone plays a pull slice it goes soo low because the face is so shut compared the target yet open to the swing path
@michaeljames92 This is really surprising to me, and I find it difficult to believe. Do you have a reference to support the Trackman findings? Thanks.
@shitskadoodle - It surprising because that was the opinion for a long time, before the advent of modern analysis equipment. The actual way is as described by other commenters on here.
Your not alone, the mainly self taught (and father taught) Jim Furyk was under this impression too - See for yourself
watch?v=1NvoTgwDS2w
Im guessing someone has corrected him, and if not he doesn't care anyway, its whatever works!
@shitskadoodle - It surprising because that was the opinion for a long time, before the advent of modern analysis equipment. The actual way is as described by other commenters on here.
Your not alone, the mainly self taught (and father taught) Jim Furyk was under this impression too - See for yourself watch?v=1NvoTgwDS2w
Im guessing someone has corrected him, and if not he doesn't care anyway, its whatever works!
@shitskadoodle Dude I know the ballflights laws! Since there is not edit button I could not edit my post. Draw in to out path and the clubface is open relative to the target line which is the flag but the clubface is shut relative to the swingpath which means the swingpath goes out more to the right and you achieve this by swinging more in to out.
Fade Swingpath that goes little more out to in the clubface is closed relative to the target line but the clubface is open relative to the swingpath
I have watch several videos of Tiger woods and does he always play his ball back in his stance? In this video, the ball is clearly back. I went to the 09 players when henrick stenson won it, and even then, Tiger appeared to play his ball back in his stance. I did not notice this until recently. I know he plays closer to the ball than must.
Nahh man, he's hitting a fade. That's what the announcer is saying when he says "Trying to hold off the blade" he's trying not to release it which will send it drawing to the hole.
dont try to correct me on this matter asswipe....hes holding off the blade because hes hittin a trap draw off his right foot out of a divot....the ball starts in the center of the green clearly and ends up stiff next to a left pin...its obvious mathematics that the ball has the move right to left....
@live4u123 I totally agree MFBueno63 doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. How would he hit a draw with a wide open club face? Clearly MF doesn't have a clue what the hell he is talking about or maybe he is just confused about the differences between a draw and a fade.
@headake1981 I'm not sure if he hit a draw or a fade but trust me, you can absolutely hit a draw with a slightly open club face. It may not be the norm but it can be done if you trap the ball right.
@mousavsm you don't have to trap the ball right You can hit a push draw if you swing in to out and the clubface is closed relative to the swing path this does not mean the clubface is closed the clubface is actually a little bit open which enables the ball to start right of the flagstick and then the swing path creates the draw when the ball is losing speed.
@headake1981 However, after seeing the way his club finishes at the top.... that's a fade finish (a hold off so to speak) so I agree with you, in my opinion it was a fade as well.
whoever uploaded this video is a fraud
gianluru93 3 months ago
@ScratchQuest I was well aware of that ;)
jojes03 3 months ago
Can someone tell how its possible to hit a fade that starts right of the target and ends left of the aim and the wind is not a factor?? I think its time to revise the name of this video @TGAofAmerica
jojes03 4 months ago
Had it been a perfect lie, I dunno, but a good shot is a good shot :)
haistapaska20 4 months ago
yeah come on Tiger start winning again
walkthroughfilms 5 months ago
I miss this Tiger
kylle345 6 months ago 2
To be honest i don't think it would have made a huge difference if he was in a divot or not as he has so much muscle and power he can just hit from practically any lie.
MrGeewiz1 7 months ago
This isn't a fade, it's a draw.
MrElculver2424 7 months ago 4
@MrElculver2424 No it's a fspotyg ?
eatzz1 6 months ago
that sounded....so good.
noryis 7 months ago
When is Tiger gonna get his skills back? The PGA Tour is boring without him.
rockbandnerd100 8 months ago
for the love of god, change the title of this video....he is playing a TRAP DRAW here....please people, the ball obviously starts in the middle of the green and ends up stiff next to a tucked left pin.....he "held off the blade" because he was keepin the flight down....thats it...
MFBueno63 10 months ago
@MFBueno63
Why you mad
utahgs 9 months ago
I miss this Tiger
jbizzle231 10 months ago 26
nigga at his best!
CosmicSPC 1 year ago
still a terrible rule, divots should be classified as G.U.R
nijaz14 1 year ago
I think everyone forget to mention where he's aiming and the ol high finish, which if you ever heard Tiger speak about how to hit these shot's It usually emulates a fade.
SimpleAz 1 year ago
it looks more like a draw from the way the ball moved since the ball was so far back in his stance for a 7-iron. the ball went right to left. however, the ball also stopped instantly, meaing that he created spin, and the only way to get that much spin, was to push the ball into the front lip of the divot, compressing it until it releases. so it looks like to me that it's a trap draw.
KTFlaSh96 1 year ago
defintely a draw. if the ball is that far back in the stance and he returns his hands to the same spot at impact as at address, the clubface is going to be well shut. So by holding off the release of the blade, the draw is more controlled and doesn't shoot left.
Gupps0123456 1 year ago
@Gupps0123456 The clubface is not shut when you are hitting a draw the clubface is actually open and shut when you are hitting a fade. The clubface is closed relative to the swingpath which means the swingpath goes out more to the left than the clubface does so to speak. You curve the golfball with the swingpath and you start the golfball with the clubface. The draw starts right of the target then it draws back this shot can only be achieved with a in to out swing path and a open clubface.
f0cusen 11 months ago
@f0cusen You have explained the exact opposite of how to work the ball?! Draw = inside-to-outside swingpath with clubface shut relative to swingpath and on line with target. Fade = outside-to-inside swingpath with clubface open relative to swingpath and on line with target.
shitskadoodle 10 months ago
@shitskadoodle No he's actually right, trackman has proven that the ball starts mainly in the direction of the face(about 80% slightly, less with shorter, more lofted clubs) Tiger was only told this information this year and it has been known for quite a few years now... Hence when someone plays a pull slice it goes soo low because the face is so shut compared the target yet open to the swing path
michaeljames92 10 months ago
@michaeljames92 This is really surprising to me, and I find it difficult to believe. Do you have a reference to support the Trackman findings? Thanks.
shitskadoodle 10 months ago
@shitskadoodle - It surprising because that was the opinion for a long time, before the advent of modern analysis equipment. The actual way is as described by other commenters on here.
Your not alone, the mainly self taught (and father taught) Jim Furyk was under this impression too - See for yourself
watch?v=1NvoTgwDS2w
Im guessing someone has corrected him, and if not he doesn't care anyway, its whatever works!
elnocho3 10 months ago
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@shitskadoodle - It surprising because that was the opinion for a long time, before the advent of modern analysis equipment. The actual way is as described by other commenters on here.
Your not alone, the mainly self taught (and father taught) Jim Furyk was under this impression too - See for yourself watch?v=1NvoTgwDS2w
Im guessing someone has corrected him, and if not he doesn't care anyway, its whatever works!
elnocho3 10 months ago
@shitskadoodle Dude I know the ballflights laws! Since there is not edit button I could not edit my post. Draw in to out path and the clubface is open relative to the target line which is the flag but the clubface is shut relative to the swingpath which means the swingpath goes out more to the right and you achieve this by swinging more in to out.
Fade Swingpath that goes little more out to in the clubface is closed relative to the target line but the clubface is open relative to the swingpath
f0cusen 10 months ago
This is a trap draw
f0cusen 1 year ago
I have wrote MFBueno in a personal message to demonstrate his ignorance about my question. Can we all agree this fucking beaner is a waist.
InherentlyCorrect 1 year ago
I have watch several videos of Tiger woods and does he always play his ball back in his stance? In this video, the ball is clearly back. I went to the 09 players when henrick stenson won it, and even then, Tiger appeared to play his ball back in his stance. I did not notice this until recently. I know he plays closer to the ball than must.
InherentlyCorrect 1 year ago
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MFBueno63 1 year ago
for gods sakes change the title of this video...this is clearly a low draw....
MFBueno63 1 year ago
@MFBueno63
Nahh man, he's hitting a fade. That's what the announcer is saying when he says "Trying to hold off the blade" he's trying not to release it which will send it drawing to the hole.
live4u123 1 year ago
@live4u123
dont try to correct me on this matter asswipe....hes holding off the blade because hes hittin a trap draw off his right foot out of a divot....the ball starts in the center of the green clearly and ends up stiff next to a left pin...its obvious mathematics that the ball has the move right to left....
MFBueno63 1 year ago
@live4u123 I totally agree MFBueno63 doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. How would he hit a draw with a wide open club face? Clearly MF doesn't have a clue what the hell he is talking about or maybe he is just confused about the differences between a draw and a fade.
headake1981 1 year ago
@headake1981 I'm not sure if he hit a draw or a fade but trust me, you can absolutely hit a draw with a slightly open club face. It may not be the norm but it can be done if you trap the ball right.
mousavsm 1 year ago
@mousavsm you don't have to trap the ball right You can hit a push draw if you swing in to out and the clubface is closed relative to the swing path this does not mean the clubface is closed the clubface is actually a little bit open which enables the ball to start right of the flagstick and then the swing path creates the draw when the ball is losing speed.
f0cusen 11 months ago
@headake1981 However, after seeing the way his club finishes at the top.... that's a fade finish (a hold off so to speak) so I agree with you, in my opinion it was a fade as well.
mousavsm 1 year ago
thanks for stealing my video, lol, exacty the same as mine, just copy and pasted.
proslayar 2 years ago 22
and u copied it from the pga... pot meet kettle
MattJones1418 1 year ago
@proslayar looks like you stole some too.....
Hankywu 8 months ago
@proslayar its funny how yours got removed and his didn't
jtermin4t0r 5 months ago