G20 - Policing the G20: Another View - Bank of England

[newall7]

who was that weirdo dancing at first what a ponce

[owlscraig]

Why do people protest? they never achive anything just mass trouble. If you disagree with somthing then protesting is not how your going to get your way

[ectomorfoo]

Even the quickest look at your history book will tell you different. Sweeping changes have often been achieved through committed political protest. Think votes for women, think Apartheid in South Africa... I could go on.

[owlscraig]

That was then but unfortunetly the hippies ruined that nowdays people see protesters as idiots

[ectomorfoo]

So when do you think Apartheid fell?

[owlscraig]

Yes but people nowdays are not protesting for a reason like Apartheid they are just doing it as they have nothing else to do

[ectomorfoo]

Interesting view... I think you'll find, though, that people protest because they care, because they're engaged, because they're *not* apathetic like everyone else.

[owlscraig]

I see your view many protesters are doing it for what they belive in and i will take my hat of for them. But there are a lot who just go to cause trouble and that just makes the protest look like they are causing trouble and for that reason many of them dont achive anything as they are taken for criminals

[IKILLEDBAMBY]

i dont know if anyboy knows, but did you see that like gang with black hoodys and balaclvas on someother videos or the news, just curios,?

[vicar2]

The baby thing is a bit silly. The person who took the baby to a political protest is the one who should be castigated. Having seen the protests there were a lot of protesters behaving aggressively too and frankly resorting to hooliganism. The police are lot more mild mannered now then they used to be only a couple of decades ago. Tomlinson's death was unfortunate but hurling abuse at the conduct of the whole police force seems unfair to me.

[ectomorfoo]

What right do you have to tell a mother where she shouldn't take her child? Thousands of people went to the climate camp expecting an entirely peaceful protest. And it was *entirely* peaceful, with a good rapport between CoL police and protesters until the former were replaced with riot police instructed to launch a coordinated, violent attack on those present. @ "Having seen the protests": where exactly and at what time? @ "Tomlinson's death was unfortunate"? Unfortunate?!!!!

[ectomorfoo]

Tomlinson's death is an absolute disgrace, just like all the other deaths in police custody for which no justice is seen to be done. And once again the police tried to mislead the public until presented with incontravertible video evidence giving then lie to what they had fed to the media through their well-oiled PR machine.

[vicar2]

I saw quite a lot of it as I was trying to get through central london at the time. Although I agree there were people there engaging in peaceful protest, there was also a minority being rowdy, aggressive (with each other as much as the police) and when confronted in a verbal manner, started to get abusive and physical. Tomlinson was clearly not part of this minority but the police force as a whole cannot be tarred with the same brush. If it was all peaceful...who broke the windows of the RBS?

[ectomorfoo]

Central London - or Bank? You're clearly not talking about the climate camp - did you go there? The only violence in Bishopsgate came from the police. Yes, there was an attack on RBS (well away from the climate camp) by a very small group of protestors (<1% of those present). However, many believe this to have been deliberately engineered by the police - RBS, of all banks, next-door to the BofE, with almost no police protection and the windows uncovered! - in order to justify their tactics.

[vicar2]

That seems like a bit of a conspiracy theory to me, and one with no reasonable motive. Why would the police want an excuse to be aggressive? Or the government? They dont benefit from making the protesters look like victims. Besides you forget that the RBS has laid of thousands of workers and made the tax payer liable for £300billion nationalisation. Plenty of reason to be angry and break their windows.

[ectomorfoo]

You've virtually disproved your first statement. The background to what happened at RBS in the weeks running up to the G20 surely made it essential to protect the RBS, sited right next-door to the Bank of England? Many businesses in the area were boarded up, as usually happens for this type of protest. RBS wasn't. I saw the rowdier elements among the protesters herded into an area slap bang in front of RBS. In front of which there appear to be very few police. And an unprotected RBS. Strange.

[SheylaDala]

"Why would the police want an excuse to be aggressive?"

Psychological evaluation indicate people who enter into the police force tend to be naturally aggressive themselves and also have a penchant to be arrogant. I have met some police officers who are upstanding and uphold the law but even they agree the G20 was a disgrace! I am sure that Tomlinson's family don't see his death as 'unfortunate' this is the 21st century, and it happened in a developed country instigated by a police officer!

[SheylaDala]

I would have agreed with you at one point in my life. Police officers are supposed to uphold the law. The are supposed to defend. Unfortunately I have seen too much police brutality to agree with you. Police officers in general (not all) are aggressive. They were dealing with protesting civilians not convicted criminals. Also herding and constricting humans like cattle causes unnecessary tension which eventually causes a blow out. They really do need to rethink their tactics.

[fourmanfilms]

Police have no right to Kettle people inless they envoke section 14 of the public order act for fear of violence. They had not enacted it and the senior officer I spoke with would not let me go. I suggest people make a formal complaint to the IPCC for false detention by Poice. Section 14 was not enacted until about 6pm in the day. Once they legally kettle they must supply food water and medical assistence tot he crowd which they failed to do.

[fourmanfilms]

Great Coverage Ecto. I like this film very much.

[1chrisallom]

get a life you bunch of hippys

what was this protest about ??

[ectomorfoo]

See above response to DutchPow3r - the same applies.

[fourmanfilms]

The protest was about the fact that £1,500,000,000,000 of tax payers money has been given to the banks when the Govt could have spent that money on employing people on projects that matter like green energy. Instead the money has been poured down the same drain that it dissapeared into before. So why dont you make an effort to see what is going on.

[DutchPow3r]

Get a fucking job you left wing motherfuckers, always complaining and with your fucking hands in the welfare jar, please morons, go do something with you life instead of fighting for nothing

[ectomorfoo]

I'd go back to school if I were you, mate... it obviously didn't work for you the first time and you might just learn how to make a constructive point.

[chrisdabdoub]

well said. those with no inteligence, usually result to violence. Profanity does little to stress a point, and even less to create one.

[scotty123123]

This is real the result of the London G20: in other words, Gordon Brown's, supposed "grand success" on the world stage, which involved pledging, Keynesian style, to spend another a trillion dollars we don't have, and the killing of an innocent man

[1chrisallom]

with out the olice the world would be a mess things were getting out of hand hence the police prence if yu are so nieve to see why they did such things then look back at your own footage. if you didnt protest there wouldnt be a need for the police to be there

[ectomorfoo]

I'm struggling to understand some of that, but you obviously don't recall senior Met Police commanders irresponsibly stating that they were "up for it" in the days running up to the protests. I personally witnessed police officers cover their ID numbers up when a demonstrator shouted on a loudhailer for other protesters to clock the numbers of any police officers behaving unlawfully. In case you hadn't realised - and that's how it appears - we have a lawful right to demonstrate in this country.

[swanningaround]

ecto. It is all getting out of hand. Queen Elizbeth II must step in. Her relative, Tzar Nicholas II did not step in. Have a look at Dr. Zhivago and the scene there. We now have a brutal commander behind the scenes, the Gold Commander CressidaDick. This women has ordered other murders including that of Jean Charles de Menezes. Elizabeth is in charge. She has to step in before it is too late. This Gold Commander must be removed.

[costy1511]

1chrisallom, People have a right to protest what their elected officials are doing if they perceive them to be wrong. Officialdom is not a given right to rule the masses - it is a responsibility to those who put them there and to answer to the people.

Your grammar and punctuation skills shows you to be well mired in the scheme to dumb down the masses so they have no ability to reason and think past what they are inculcated into believing.

Police are meant to stop criminality, not everything.

[jangove]

Hey 1chrisallom

Go back to la la land. Big brother is going to take great care of you. Do you even know why the protests are happening......aaahhh forget it.

If you don't even have the sense enough to question your government then you have no business commenting here. Go back to your nice safe life. We'll stop the wave of global injustice before it effects you. ...hopefully

sweet dreams

[samsonlovesyou]

Just want to say thanks for uploading this video, bro. I took a bit of a kicking from the police despite being peaceful all protest and I'm glad to see the brutality addressed.

Where were the cops when Blair took us into two illegal wars?

Where were the cops when the economy was destroyed?

Where were the police when the banks were given hundreds of billions of pounds of OUR money?

They're there to serve and protect, it's true. Just not me, and just not you.

[NikLaw83]

Great video! Rated

[diamondogz]

A mass arrest without process is illegal. But they happily spend £7.5 million on it because it's our money and anyway, if they can't burn it or wipe their ars3s on it they give it to the rich.

[AntiVot]

ugly tatics ...

[fourmanfilms]

police were unable to tell me if they had envoked section 14 and as susch had no lawful reason to detain me or anyone else. as nothing unpeaceful had happened they were clutching at straws. nobody was allowed out and they cited that a firework had been let off and that justified denying people food toilets and dignity. Not to mention freedom to demonstrate which a recent parliamentary report has condemened the police for their interference in the right to proptest. It mentions unlawful detention

[silvanadefaria2202]

I was in the other side of London with the STWC for only 2 hours I heard about was happining in the City because some of the people left there and came to Traalgar Square. But well- it s the Police! What else to say? They did the same during the Marchs in Kensington while we protested agains the Israeli genocide in Gaza indec/ja 2009. Thank you for you great Video. I felt moved by it- with the Bob Marley's song. it does say everything isnt? Thanks, Mark.

[theestever]

...and there were a few toilets provided but by the early evening they were inaccessible due to the advancing police lines.

[ectomorfoo]

I was kettled in Prince's Street from 12.30 until almost 4pm. When anyone there asked the police officers in front of me 'Why are we being held here?', 'What's the reason we're being kept here?', 'How long will we be kept?', 'Who's the officer in charge?' or 'Where can I go to toilet?', the answer was always a robotic 'I don't know'. Then a member of the public told us that there was a small, temporary exit behind the church. I believe they reclosed that a short time after.

[theestever]

That's pretty much what each cop we asked similar questions to replied, and when we asked where we could get out we were just told to try the next left...and when we did... yup, "Try the next left". At first I thought it was just a lack of communication but then I figured out that it must just be a tactic to piss people off. The fecks.

[theestever]

I was there. We were kettled for more like 8 and a half hours. Me and 3 others joined one of the marches with the intention of passing through the square and going on to the Climate Camp, but when we got to the other side we couldn't get out again, and each potential exit we tried was sealed off by cops. We gave up trying soon after 12:30.

I was one of the last four people let out at 9pm after an afternoon/evening of police aggression, whilst keeping fairly upbeat like most people there.