"That's Martin Goodman! Creator of Marvel Comics!"
Uh yes I suppose that's true,
Not to put down a dead man but IMHO most of the people who worked for Goodman from the 1940s-1960s like Joe Simon, Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Harvey Kurtzman, Roy Thomas etc might have called him something like "Martin Goodman,
Mega trend follower who always tried to make a carbon copy of anything that was popular in comicbooks being published by other companies and milk it dry
Yes, it's a little-known fact that Kirby actually created most of the Marvel characters we known and revere today... Hulk, Iron Man, FF, X-Men, even Spider-Man was (according to Jack) were all created by Kirby, and stolen by Lee who was the publisher's nephew and in charge of the credits.
Kirby left Marvel because the contract he got from Marv burned him alive with no security. They basically threw him out. Kirby then went to DC and they burned him and then back to Marvel. Everyone sucked Kirby dry. The sad part was when he was finally hired for custom art at great rates, his eyesight was failing him and he couldn't do the work. Guy couldn't catch a break.
That's a bit unfair. Marvel screwed Jack Kirby. Unfortunately, Stan Lee has an ego and certainly 'forget's who created what but it was Archie Goodwin, publisher that burned Jack with horrible contracts and exploitive deals. Jack did so much for marvel.
Also said was the personalities. Stan was a natural salesman and Jack kind of rambled a bit. It didn't help the greatest artist who ever lived that he couldn't sell himself to the public with his personality.
One big thing was that Kirby was no business man unlike say Martin Goodman or Stan Lee, Kirby's main concern throughout his life was creating and providing for his family and such things as the fact that he got no royalties from Marvel for toys animated cartoons plus also that he made more money from designing characters for animation cartoons in the 1980s than he ever got from Marvel and that eternal battle he fought with Marvel over his original artwork up to his final years, well....
At least Lisa Kirby seems to have a better relationship with Marvel than her father ever did these days what with the Jack Kirby's Galactic Bounty Hunters edition that Marvel is distributing.
Excellent points. It's unfortunate that Kirby didn't have Stan's in-your-face personality as well. Kirby is a guy I would call a friend. Stan would be someone fun to hang out with -- just as long as I understood Stan had no problem backstabbing you.
You are right. It allowed Stan to do a ton more writing but it put all the burden on the artists. Kirby slaved for them and made peanuts. I read somewhere that Tod McFarland made more money in a few issues of Spiderman than Kirby did in his 10 years at Marvel. Depressing. Glad to see the Kirby family suing Marvel. I hope they win.
wow thats pretty cool man... I know how you feel, I am not that old but I seen his work and was instantly shown what marvel is at theyre core. he was surely a genius. i wish that I could have met him.
The King LIVES!!!!
DrVonChilla 3 months ago
The King + The Man = The Marvel Universe.
TheDrunkenHer0 9 months ago
Fantastic ! The old great Kirby on drawing his creature !
loresamba 1 year ago
Crappy clip.
RussX5Z 1 year ago
Long live The King.
qwisp 1 year ago
Way cool! Thanks big time. :)
djs1952 1 year ago
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magee he made you look foolish
winfir0 1 year ago
Este cameo salió del episodio No Escape de la segunda temporada.
Rigo21berto11 1 year ago
ALL HEIL THE KING!!!
orathio89 1 year ago
That's Martin Goodman! Creator of Marvel Comics!
brianpadraic 2 years ago
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cha5 2 years ago
@brianpadraic
"That's Martin Goodman! Creator of Marvel Comics!"
Uh yes I suppose that's true,
Not to put down a dead man but IMHO most of the people who worked for Goodman from the 1940s-1960s like Joe Simon, Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Harvey Kurtzman, Roy Thomas etc might have called him something like "Martin Goodman,
Mega trend follower who always tried to make a carbon copy of anything that was popular in comicbooks being published by other companies and milk it dry
all his life"
cha5 2 years ago
Back when Marvel cared about things like morality and innovation, now it's all shock value and shades of grey, and the art suffers.
Joe Quesada is no Jack Kirby or Stan Lee.
heyarnoldsknee 2 years ago
unfair to compare them. diferent times. different industry.
Phillies64 2 years ago
Uncle MARK said...
WHat a crock o' shit what a GODDAMN CROCK O' SHIT!
wildmanchris200 2 years ago
??!
Actionguy1 2 years ago
I must say, I have a real problem with Stan Lee and Marvel Comics.
Lee would give Kirby a story concept, Kirby would "write" the story in pictures, then Stan wrote the dialogue according to the pictures!
Stan wanted to take credit for most of the characters that Kirby came up with, and still does to this day.
And Marvel NEVER let Kirby have all his original artwork back!
Stan screwed Jack!
Actionguy1 2 years ago 5
What a crock o' shit what a GODDAMN CROCK O' SHIT!
wildmanchris200 2 years ago
Yes, it's a little-known fact that Kirby actually created most of the Marvel characters we known and revere today... Hulk, Iron Man, FF, X-Men, even Spider-Man was (according to Jack) were all created by Kirby, and stolen by Lee who was the publisher's nephew and in charge of the credits.
Vortigern99 2 years ago 3
Totally. I hear that's why he left Marvel in the seventies.
teenagenutcase1 2 years ago
Kirby left Marvel because the contract he got from Marv burned him alive with no security. They basically threw him out. Kirby then went to DC and they burned him and then back to Marvel. Everyone sucked Kirby dry. The sad part was when he was finally hired for custom art at great rates, his eyesight was failing him and he couldn't do the work. Guy couldn't catch a break.
hammerofharpel 2 years ago 3
That's a bit unfair. Marvel screwed Jack Kirby. Unfortunately, Stan Lee has an ego and certainly 'forget's who created what but it was Archie Goodwin, publisher that burned Jack with horrible contracts and exploitive deals. Jack did so much for marvel.
Also said was the personalities. Stan was a natural salesman and Jack kind of rambled a bit. It didn't help the greatest artist who ever lived that he couldn't sell himself to the public with his personality.
hammerofharpel 2 years ago
One big thing was that Kirby was no business man unlike say Martin Goodman or Stan Lee, Kirby's main concern throughout his life was creating and providing for his family and such things as the fact that he got no royalties from Marvel for toys animated cartoons plus also that he made more money from designing characters for animation cartoons in the 1980s than he ever got from Marvel and that eternal battle he fought with Marvel over his original artwork up to his final years, well....
cha5 2 years ago
At least Lisa Kirby seems to have a better relationship with Marvel than her father ever did these days what with the Jack Kirby's Galactic Bounty Hunters edition that Marvel is distributing.
cha5 2 years ago
Excellent points. It's unfortunate that Kirby didn't have Stan's in-your-face personality as well. Kirby is a guy I would call a friend. Stan would be someone fun to hang out with -- just as long as I understood Stan had no problem backstabbing you.
hammerofharpel 2 years ago 2
You are right. It allowed Stan to do a ton more writing but it put all the burden on the artists. Kirby slaved for them and made peanuts. I read somewhere that Tod McFarland made more money in a few issues of Spiderman than Kirby did in his 10 years at Marvel. Depressing. Glad to see the Kirby family suing Marvel. I hope they win.
hammerofharpel 2 years ago 4
COOL!!!!
marcelcruzeiro 2 years ago
Stan Lee did make a cameo, in the TV movie "Trial of the Incredible Hulk"
metallybenj 3 years ago
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cha5 2 years ago
Stan did alot of cameos, he still does for most of the Marvel movies still coming out that have characters that he co-created Spiderman,
Fantastic Four, X-Men etc.
The only JacK Kirby cameos i know of are this one and one he did in the TV series 'Bob',
Does anyone know of any other Kirby cameos out there?
cha5 2 years ago
Jack is the man for real.. my great inspiration, god rest him ..your work captivates us today king.
makado1980 3 years ago 3
As an artist myself, Jack Kirby was one of my earliest influences. I still remember how the "Galactus Trilogy" scared the hell out of me!
Too bad "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer" had to disappoint!
Kirby's Galactus was one of the MOST visually interesting characters EVER created!
Actionguy1 2 years ago 5
wow thats pretty cool man... I know how you feel, I am not that old but I seen his work and was instantly shown what marvel is at theyre core. he was surely a genius. i wish that I could have met him.
makado1980 2 years ago
THE KING LIVESSSSS
NEPHESH74 3 years ago 10
LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
itzjoeymac 3 years ago 15
Wow, thanks for that. Great to see Jack Kirby on the Hulk show (looked like it was actually his artwork too).
udopampel 3 years ago 3
Never knew that Jack made a cameo on the show-great to see him.
rodblackwood 3 years ago
If only Jack received the recognition he deserved back then ... RIP The King!
pedalbin 3 years ago 6
How come he can't draw the Hulk, he was co-creator, lol.
jamieleng 3 years ago
I think the patient describing the "HULK" was purposely giving a misleading description of his appearance, hence the off drawing.
He was letting/helping the Hulk get "away".
surfitlive 3 years ago 3
Cool, didn't know that! It would have been funny if Stan Lee himself made a cameo, I could just see it.
Voyagersguidebook 3 years ago