Street Fighter 4 - Momochi (GO) vs Meita Tison (BI)

[autobotsross]

BORRIIIINNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG booooooooo

[Dayy101]

From a non-bias standpoint, I think they were both turtling. Although, Akuma was doing a zoning-turtling. It's how the really characters play. Charge characters like Balrog (in this case M. Bison) are GENERALLY more turtl-ish because they have to hold back to use their special moves. Akuma is pressured to zone Balrog, because he can slowly chip down Balrog's health and keep a far distance from him, because of his lower health. Sorry for the long comment, enjoyed the vid.

[darkhokage]

Very nice read to punish. Overall a very intense match!

[Rubberduck31693]

Guys, Akuma isnt turtling. Its called zoning. Akuma could never fight Boxer one on one due to his low health. He's keeping Boxer at bay where he can't do anything. It's called being smart.

[Unholyterror]

God, I hate fighting a Boxer player... What character is good to use against him, so I can counter my friend? lol

[knightofbliss]

@Unholyterror

gief, akuma, vega, gen, viper, sagat, and i think dhalsim-just cause its dhalsim.. bottom line, im sure you'll be able to beat your friend if you pick any character and train

[MickieJamesFTW]

I thought his name was Maeda Tyson?

[XAeolusX]

2:31 perfect time for the demon

[ingofreak]

@XAeolusX he was too close.

[DanielDouradoF]

This is how Akuma is ment to be played, if hes got that much firebals is because it is his style of playing, dont want him to be as offensive as abel...

[Rombizio]

Amazing match. Very technical.

[fsabado]

Both were very sharp and calculating each others moves throughout the series. Hardly any wasted movement and defenses and counter moves were well thought out. But distance and timing was the key for Maeda (very patient), but got to also give props for Momochi, he's got skills with Gouki though. Sometimes the least characters you suspect can make a difference in styles. Great match.

[Ubahman]

Balrog is even better in SSF4 so you have to zone him even more. I hate to play the zoner but in a tournament I'll do what I need to in order to win.

[ffox91]

w8... is m bison in japanese the name of the boxer instead of balrog?

[Winterhe4rt]

@ffox91 the answer to this can be found in the comment section of each and every SF video on youtube!

[CUB0W]

@ffox91 yeahh :) M.Bison, Balrog and Vega I think are all mixed up :)

[truendymion]

Noish. Both players fighting smart.

[klildboiz510]

tight match but akuma shoot to much fire ball in the air

[apreasher]

momocho should have win the 2nd round.if he just jump back and throw light air hado

[Elitist111]

GOOOOO BALROG! :D

[nathankwlau]

Amazing Ultra-end!

[cpthurme]

YEAH BOXER! :D

[Bayek100]

Booring Match )=

[fearandloathinginNY]

Just start calling him M. Taison.

[bloody0blood]

meita????lmao MAEDA TAISON!! NOT MEITA TAISON!!

[tmoneythehoney]

@Wilbot3000 There is no mistake, turtling would be backing up the entire fight throwing fire balls. Like I said, its on'y fun to watch when he is on the offensve

[vud911]

By your reasoning all Dhalsim turtles and boring to watch.

I find Iyo entertaining.

My definition of a turtle is someone who refuse to offense, inclusive of characters without fireballs. Balrog could be backing out and jumping over fireballs in his 'safe' side when he have health advantage and I would consider him a turtle.

[dokho1981]

this purely amazing to dsh forward and connect the ultra with Bison (i prefer the balrog version)

simply unbelievable move

[nigaplzitzron]

any1 noticed the end when balrog dashes forward first then hit the ultra?

[Splurgendii]

no, nobody

[nigaplzitzron]

@Splurgendii  4:51 how does he do that?

[Splurgendii]

my buddy says that if you dash REALLY fast, the game will still register your charge. Try it out!!!

[laganwielder]

@nigaplzitzron

the move is charge b,f,b,f Punch x3. If you input charge b,f,f,b,f and the f,f is fast enough, you will dash then ultra.

[steelphoenix]

I noticed a massive impalance, bison has that running punch that is totally safe on block. there was no way to punsh it

[ShaneusSnake]

It is punishable on reaction every time with Gouki's Ultra or Super. It should not be punishable on block. It is also interruptable with all kinds of Shoryukens and similar type moves.

[steelphoenix]

aight, thanks bro

[tatsukiyumo]

aww meita does is massive turtle

[Wilbot3000]

Momochi really is my favorite japanese player! Not only because he is good, but because I learned how to play a good akuma from him!

[Wilbot3000]

The whole first round there was no turtling... I don't know about the rest because the video wont buffer past the 1st round, but already I've proven your statement to be wrong. I think you mistake Turtling for blocking. There is a minor difference. He's not just going to let Rog hit him over and over again.

And no matter what you say, that doesn't take Momo off of the top 5 Akuma players list, so, he is still a good Akuma.

Have a good one!

[voltz83]

@tmoneythehoney you try playing versus momochi's akuma then try saying that. he'd probably combo you nonstop until you start crying. if you can't comprehend how the game is meant to be played don't complain. this is why you fail at playing SF4. these guy's aren't playing to entertain you. get a life.

[XxGonixXFAN]

@voltz83 I agree with what you wrote, I laughed at the way you insulted though. Sounded like a 2 year old repeating fuck you over and over and over

[hunter2002bow]

@voltz83 because of these kind of people, they are the fans that believe WWE wrestling is real, because they dont know what is right and wrong, true and false, real and fake lol. HAHAHAHAHA

[Urzawtfbbq]

fun to watch and being good arent the same thing per se. Momochi is an amazing akuma.

[thejunkmanlives]

that shit is so boring. Akuma has alot of great offensive tools to be running away like that. They need to shorten the stages.

[thundercunt55]

akuma is played with zoning. he can be a very aggressive character for sure, i main him so i would know. but against a balrog that hits you twice and takes your life down ridiculously fast its best to play it safe.

[thejunkmanlives]

its just to easy to play it safe though. thats the thing. Im starting to learn akuma now and its just crazy how his punish combos net him around 200 to 300 dmg(there also pretty easy to do, unless ur in a laggy game), and if ur quick enough u can punnish with a demon.. Hes very balanced for the tools that he has its just to easy to spend the whole match playing tag. they need to shorten the dam stages. I have seen this guy play up on sagat so its not like akuma cant rock in close.

[thundercunt55]

oh i completely agree. akuma can destroy when it comes to punishment. massive combo damage and they're pretty easy to do too. but the thing is, all it takes is one or 2 mistakes and you eat it BIG TIME. so at a higher level with players who can link combo's like its nothing, he's probably right on doing what he's doing

[thundercunt55]

for example, check out :56 seconds in. akuma has already done a chunk of damage to balrog, but 3 hits of balrog draws the match even

[j0nmelb]

once akuma gets a knockdown on sagat, he can cross him up every time, because sagats tiger uppercut will whiff to a properly spaced jump.he puts wakeup pressure on sagat (or 'plays up on' in your words) because he CAN. he cant do it to the same extent on balrog.

[thejunkmanlives]

his he can. Meaties beat the all the head butts except for the ex's. and if he times cross ups and demon flips right head butts also whiff. and his standing rh is a great pressure tool in this match aswell. These guys are just taking advantage of capcoms turtle friend fight mechanics. A recent interview even had diago saying this game was to def oriented(check eventhubs it). This shit is gay and u know it.

[j0nmelb]

"Meaties beat the all the head butts except for the ex's"

in other words, EX headbutt beats meaties. so why go for a meaty if the other player has a reliable counter to it? stupid.

"and if he times cross ups and demon flips right head butts also whiff."

every time you go for that crossup, you run the risk of mistiming it and being punished for it. if you dont need to take that risk, why do it?

[thejunkmanlives]

its called mind games, and risk v reward. I fought a balrog last night. And i got into his head to the point were i was able to just walk up and throw him on wake up cause he didnt know what to do. Dont be a fuckin pussy and use akumas strenghts. One wrong guess and akuma can hit u for almost 300 dmg. Why wouldnt u go for it. Ur the reason sf4 is fuckin gay online.

[MrSuperlollo]

well balrog's wake up options are really crap...headbutt has 12 startup frames and can be safe jumped by a blind man...all his ex rush punches on wakeup are destroyed by either crossup tatsu followed by s.rh or simply demon flip palm strike which breaks armour.

I'd like to see a more recent video of momochi vs maeda taison, momo upped his wake up pressure game a lot since july

[bloody0blood]

meita????lmao

maeda!!!!!!

[MrCarnage7]

its just balrog is a overpowered turtle,

[thejunkmanlives]

How so? U can stuff regular headbutts with meaties all day. ANd he aint all that fast either. Ryu and sagat are way worst since they can mash out reversals.

[brianinlfc]

Not just balrog, look at e-honda ... OMG his headbutts takes a chunk of life... look at Blanka .. his weird hit box because he is always bending down...

[freshandlegal]

How do you pick Akuma in an arcade?

[xVatanAsigi]

very good question^^

[AJDaEnvoy]

input a code, i believe.

[MarySheperd]

He is above Ryu. You just need to go up

[LiangHuBBB]

GG.

[toox]

Momochi can't LOOSE !!

[Splurgendii]

man these guys play like their made of lava... So conservative... so careful.. so slow.. I don't remeber older street fighter games being like this!~

[thejunkmanlives]

cause there not. THe stages arent gigantic in the older ones. People want the game speed up but it doesnt need it, its just as fast as turbo, its just the levels are so fuckin big that people tend to runaway.

[retnuHDJ]

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin'

[FGsouL]

hmm cheap lost..

[Uohz]

Boxer played excellently. For a massive part of that game, it was really close, but then Boxer started putting the intimidation on, and Momochi lost just enough nerve to falter on the zoning.

I'm sure you're all aware of this, but on that very last hit, Momochi was trying to perfectly distance himself so that if Boxer threw a punch, Momochi could Ultra. Boxer caught on really quickly for such a high-pressure match, and dash-Ultra'd. GG to both players, excellent indeed.

[y0uthanas1a]

stfu indeed

[schiu84]

i m not sure if momochi was trying to ultra..but dash ultra with bison isn't easy to do...especially under such pressure!!

n the thing with these matches is that players r always zoning each other n thus u rarely c crazy combos...everything is just about being practical n winning^^~ both great players indeed!!

[Mercydriver1]

Nah man that's not a mess-up. In Japan, Balrog is M. Bison, M. Bison is Vega or Dictator not sure which, and Vega is Claw.

[spacecowboy95]

really?

[Mercydriver1]

Yep, that's what they're known as in the Japanese version of the game.

[rattoh]

run away fighter 4

[alexanderegrt]

the player using gouki doesn't appear to be momochi. at least his style is different. from what i saw in other videos, momochi often follows up his light hurricane kick with a shoryuken. comments, anyone?

[Didiplouff]

it's momochi, look at the kanji

[doraemonrox]

Hiragana*

>_>

Meita Tisons name is in kanji

[InfernoDivider00]

It's Momochi. Also, the tatsu he used wasn't a light version, it was the medium, which can't link into the heavy shoryu.

[xXiBaBy]

the light tatsumaki links into the heavy shoryuken

[Koenigg]

Does the fact that the name below Gouki saying "Momochi" mean nothing to you?

[Killcycle1989]

What do you mean? Are you saying this is not Momochi?

[CtrlAltDaLEET]

momochi likes to win by timeout, i think hes trying to get his zoning recognised which it already is

[TheGosu]

I feel as though momochi underestimated this player. Great match regardless.

[dfw0jay]

how da fuk did he dash, then ultra?

[OkaGantZ]

Good question, its posible but its real hard to even try to do it, now imagine doing it at the right place at the right moment, thats pure skills. Really Nice Balrog/Bison Meita Tison got there.

[Serpico109]

it's not hard to do, but doing it at the right time can be quite hard.

[Knightofdecay]

It's strange.. I saw Momochi a lot of times and he never failed a combo opportunity.. In this match he didn't play well..

[MrSuperlollo]

lol at all the scrubs that think they can play better than someone who beat momochi's akuma.

again, LOL

[xBokkiNx]

wow momochi missed 3 reversal super opportunites.

[c19932]

lol this balrog is the definition of turtle

[jinxcrusader]

wow I didn't expect momochi to lose this one

[c19932]

balrog is akumas hard match

[joejones]

SoCal boxers>the world. imo.

[xanieeee]

You must be joking.

[joejones]

i sure am.

[longvue]

A turtling Balrog. Wouldn't you believe it.

[katsuranomaly]

Almost as shocking as a Gouki that just jumps back and fireballs all match.

[longvue]

Are you being sarcastic?

[dongslol]

Why do these Akumas always do a sweep after the air tatsumaki instead of shoryuken?

[vertoxz123]

because you can't hit confirm from air tatsu cross up...doing the sweep after the air tatsu is a lot safer than doing a srk if you don't think you're going to hit him. And I also think it does more stun than srk.

[macnation34]

for reset...

[midtownmad415]

boring as match because the players werent mindlessly attacking each other???

[hotboi141]

How do you dash into a charger's ultra?

[MysticShadow1453]

charge partitioning

[katsuranomaly]

no.

[LUEFBI]

boring as hell match but wow that dash to ultra was nice

[vinesofka]

weird choice of dash punchO_o

[TECxGamingChannel]

Ahhh man I know that feeling all too well. GG.