Thorium Remix 2009 - LFTR in 25 Minutes

[Ulquiorrapwns]

that salt plug is genius, as a chemical engineering student I'm extremely jealous of such simple solutions

[stackmagic]

is there a list of the full videos used to make this video? i'd like to watch them in full... thank you!

[gordonmcdowell]

@stackmagic Check out LFTR in 16 minutes. That is more popular, and so received a bit more YouTube Attribution (and Caption) attention from me. You'll see (briefly) at the 10 second mark some YouTube Annotation Links to the source material Google Tech Talks. This only appears when viewing in Flash, so it will not work on an iPhone or YouTube custom client on Android phone.

I'd YouTube comment you the URLs, but YouTube no-like URLs in comments.

[stackmagic]

@gordonmcdowell thank you!

[MrStephenRGilman]

If the reactors in Japan had been liquid fluoride there would have been no disaster, because as soon as the backup generators failed the "freeze plug" would have melted and all the thorium fuel would have drained away safely into the containment vessel and the reactor would have shut down automatically.

Sigh...

[answerman1949]

Admiral Hyman Rickover's Shippingport, PA LFTR

Shippingport Atomic Power Station

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Shippingport reactor was an experimental, light water moderated, thermal breeder reactor and is notable for its ability to transmute (inexpensive) Thorium 232 to Uranium 233 (the latter being the fissile material that fueled the reaction within the reactor core)."

You should obtain the Shippingport technical data using the FOIA.

[randomlog1c]

This was much more intelligible than the 16 minute cut. Thanks!

[timemastro]

U guys need to make this a real political issue so that we can get off oil. We as is the wolrd start with china, india, the us and europe. This could be done by a Hollywood style documentary taking out the science stuff assuring the view that its possible on a global scale and then show the impact it would have on real life of every day people. Then get celebs behind it and may be in 10 years to 15 years we could see this on a massive scale but your going up again the oil industry. Good luck!

[gordonmcdowell]

@timemastro Well I've been trying to get Kirk up to Calgary so I can get a decent video capture as the basis for a higher quality video. I don't know if that is going to happen. I'm sort of tapped out on this... I'm just a video guy, so if no one well versed on the subject is willing to be recorded by me speaking about it, there's really nothing I can do.

I'd certainly love to expose more people to LFTR, but I may be the only one who thinks creating a better video is the fastest way to do that.

[brickandfanal]

CANDU, ever heard about it? This is the Canadian reactor that uses heavy water as moderator. What is heavy water? This is water on witch hydrogen has been replaced by deuterium isotope. Heavy water have the property to slow down neutron at the right speed for fission for many elements. Natural Uranium can be use directly without enrichment. It can use MOX (mix oxide of Uranium and Plutonium) or THORIUM. The technology already exists and is reliable. And no atomic weapon proliferation.

[AlienScientist]

Thorium is mentioned by Joseph Farrell as a key element to the Xerum 525 used in the NAZI Bell Project. The reason they give for why they were mining the Thorium may not be the real reason they are mining it... The NAZI's were stockpiling Thorium towards the end of WW2, and it's possible they were interested in a specific isotope of Thorium to use in their Xerum 525. If US Military were trying to acquire massive amounts of Thorium for Black Ops, they would need some form of an excuse.. Right?

[pacus123]

I don't understand the amount of Thorium we have versus the amount we will need. The speaker says we have enough Thorium to last us "thousands of years if not millions".

We used 1.5TW of power in 2008 and we have about 2000000t of Thorium. If all our power was supplied by LFTRs we would be using 15000t of Thorium every year. Assuming annual power demands stay the same then dividing 2000000 by 15000 gives 133.3 years of power.

What have I got wrong? Am I missing a decimal point or something here?

[pacus123]

@pacus123

Sorry, that should be "We used 15TW of power" ...

[gordonmcdowell]

@pacus123 Thank YOU for correcting. I'll be reviewing comments if/when I ever get enough new video coverage to update the video in 2010.

[pacus123]

@gordonmcdowell

No probs. I'm obviously missing something here and wish someone could enlighten me.

[bigpchamber]

Cancel the last, this is the 25 minute version watch this after the shorter version.

[JoFergusons]

I've chosen to treat the Thorium issue as a "Tipping Point" in history on my new Blog (click my Username above or check out EnviroNauts DOT Comm), and would appreciate Comments from you if you're fascinated by the Science and Politics of Thorium, or any of the other factors that went into it's early demise...and possible re-emergence!

If you know of any other interesting, controversial, or speculative Tipping Points, feel free to submit them to Reddit: r/TippingPoints/

[xxytf94g]

Folks here's an opportunity to publicize LFTR:

Please search for citizentube then search for thorium and vote thumbs up on the first video that appears. Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor technology will bring cheap clean energy to the world. The technology is real but needs to be brought to President Obama's attention.

Thanks!

[Mechanisttm]

thanks for the video. Really hope the world invests more into this. Maybe we could get Iran to build these reactors and wouldnt have to worry about the nuclear bombs they might make.

[gordonmcdowell]

I posted a shorter version (search for "LFTR in 16 Minutes") removing some comparison with pebble bed, and making minor improvements to tightness and visuals. If you're looking to promote this content to a non-technical crowd, I'd suggest promoting that one.

[MaddrellRoger]

@gordonmcdowell This is a valuable remix Gordon. Thank you for your efforts. However, you might want to reverse the introduction sequence of Joe Bonometti and Robert Hargaves in this and perhaps the other remixes.

[gordonmcdowell]

I don't follow. I picked the order randomly, but what does your sequence then indicate... the order in which they speak? (Will review for future edits, but want to be certain what you're thinking.)

[MaddrellRoger]

Its the confusion as to who is who that I'm highlighting rather than the order of their introduction. The first compere introduces Dr Joe Bonometti but Robert Hargraves appears and says, "Thank you." The second compere introduces Robert Hargraves yet Dr Joe Bonometti appears saying, "It's a blessing to be here."

If you don't know these two you will put the wrong faces to their names, that's all.

[gordonmcdowell]

Oooohhhh. Ok THANKS for pointing that out! Will certainly fix if/when I create any new edits.

[Mechanic013]

sounds like the future of power we should be aiming for!