Aristotle: on Rhetoric

[geezerdombroadcast]

great video thank you. If you do any more please slow down at critcal junctures for the slow people like me. : ) It is a life saving resource for millions of people like me who have problems with conventional learning situations. I am able to watch numerous times so that the iformation gets through to my tiny little pea sized brain : ) Thanks so much. I hope everyone will use it. Also go to (Academic earth) and (MIT Open Courseware). I'm like a kid in a candy store.

[opensourcebuddhism]

@geezerdombroadcast The full documentary was re-edited and posted a month or so again...search under more recent documentaries. Thanks for the positives!

[geezerdombroadcast]

Where's the rest man? This was great. What a wonderful thing it is that anyone can sit and learn about the rhetorical techniques of the great classical intellects. Imagine the legacy of this kind of free sharing of information. The next Clarence Darrow may be sitting in the audience preparing to argue the next great legal argument of our time. Thank you for this great social service.

[TheDukeO5]

What happened to the final line of dialogue? D:

[ADAMOLOGY]

Very well done.

[jmjf7]

bce its so stupid i hate politically correct people its before christ not before common era. its not coincidence that they both are at the same time

[toddy47b]

@birthdayinjanuary no. 'the rhetoric' is a way in which language is used but not part of language itself.

[carrielynnreinhard]

The video ends abruptly, and I could not find it on your website. Do you have a full video somewhere I can show to my students?

[JesNazRexJud]

@carrielynnreinhard You can show your students the video "A Rhetorical Look at the Art of Rhetoric (2011 re-edit) " It is the same video, only 1 minute longer.

[irfanmaliktral]

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[ManBeastMountain]

This is awesome - it helped a lot. Thanks for posting!!

[opensourcebuddhism]

@ManBeastMountain You are welcome! This piece on Aristotle and Rhetoric has somehow helped people before.

[mrsuperterd]

so hitler was using pathos to trick the people as well as ethos but no logos? so if the people (average joe) knew rhetoric they could have seen the untruth and avoided it?

so if you can't see ethos pathos or logos or is missing one then I would question and question and then ask them with eltie dialect of me and other then prove fallacy. you think that would work? my guess is that why they don't teach you that in school becuase I could find fallacy in the teachers and there actions.

[GambitFox79]

That was an awesome explanation. Very great elaboration on dialectics and rhetoric; crisp and clear definitions of ethos, pathos, and logos.

[toecutterr6]

What is the first painting in this clip? The figure pointing to his temple.

[clacpc]

@toecutterr6 I found it as "Rhetoric cesari"

[MikeDecipher]

And keyword: method.

You're not a wise person until you know there's more than one method to going about things. Believing that the scientific method alone can produce 'all' the understanding there is to be gained in the world, is just a notion for the faithful.

[hxzxxl]

that graphic at the end was trippy as hell..it hypnotized me @_@

[123backinyerface]

Good video but I think you are basically saying in a complicated manner something that is already very well defined as "The Trivium". Logical fallacies are how someone either persuades, dissuades, depending on the Fallacies they employ in their rhetoric.

[onixz100]

AH-RISS-TOE-TEAL-IAN. :)

[Niamhie90]

Brilliant video this really helped me for my exam in critical thinking module in psychology. Much thanks!

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

Alexander the Great's legacy survived albeit in mangled form in the petty effete mismanaged Satrapies of his many Pederastic Generals.

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

According to Plutarch, Aristotle poisoned Alexander the Great of Macedon.

[Aussie26846]

Causing his own expultion from Athens? Why would he delibratly get himself threatened?

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

Aristotle tried to destroy the Hellenistic Period, but his usurpation did not fully succeed for the legacy of Alexander the Great survived albeit in the petty satrapies of his pederastic generals.

[BellaDolce]

You elaborated that the dialectic could be used in the academic term. Could you elaborate on how the rhetor is not used on the academic stage?

[GueorguiJoukov]

Persuasion is rather an issue than a solution - is it really any wise to convince a person that what is bad must be seen as good and what is good will now be seen as bad. And any corruption, any distortion or anythign which is not true, which does not represent the reality may lead one to consider what is in reality worst as being the best and he may then choose wrongly.

That is basically why the mobs rule - democracy - is inherently wrong: it gives importance to something else than knowledge.

[gotmyfingerrscrowsed]

@GueorguiJoukov one of the best comments I have read on here.

[MikeDecipher]

Hitchens is a great example of this persuasion. The guy is full of shit on so many levels.

There are those who persuade, and there are those who try to convince. I trick is to distinguish between the two so you won't be fooled. Persuasion can be a terrible thing for a mind that likes to follow the crowd.

Great video. I'm glad someone made one on this subject.

[opensourcebuddhism]

He was going to be a law student, so i suggested this philosophy topic. very suitable i thought, and misurelli did a great job. jp

[bloomingdedalus]

@MikeDecipher Christians are more full of shit on so many levels.

[MikeDecipher]

@bloomingdedalus

Yeah, but their bullshit doesn't cause you to put your head in your ass does it? Hitchens bs has the capability to do this to even reasonable people.

You don't worry about the liar that has it written on their forehead; you worry about the ones who call others lairs.

[bloomingdedalus]

@MikeDecipher I tend to think that Fundamentalist Christianity is all about putting your head up your ass. I'm not very familiar with Hitchens, but at least he's an atheist standing up for the truth of a godless universe. Watch his reaction to Falwell's death - it's beautiful to see someone spit on that monster's grave.

[MikeDecipher]

@bloomingdedalus

Fundementalist.. who's the one who's claiming to know the truth about god just as much as the evangelicals? (saying he does not exist)--even though subject matter is based on very deep, philosophical contemplation.

Atheists tend to see things on the surface. Which is my guess as to why they don't even intrigue themselves at the notion of god.

[bloomingdedalus]

@MikeDecipher The subject matter has nothing to do with philosophy in the slightest. The question of whether there is a supreme, supernatural deity is merely a factual question and warrants only scientific investigation. If the scientific method finds evidence which rejects the hypothesis as presented, which it does, frequently, then the hypothesis needs to be destroyed. God is a figment of peoples' imagination.

[MikeDecipher]

@bloomingdedalus

Which evidence rejects the hypothesis of god? Hope you can enlighten me.

[bloomingdedalus]

@MikeDecipher I said the hypotheses as presented by religions. Creationism as told in the Bible has been thoroughly disproved time and time again. The fact that most religions started very recently in the grand history of the human species is a piece of evidence that argues against God. The fact that no theodicy presented proves the nature of any god but the most arbitrarily cruel. Beyond that - the not-milky-way centered universe stands to me as the best evidence of no god.

[bloomingdedalus]

@MikeDecipher No miracles points to no god, 9/11 points to no god, the fundamental, unalterable rules of physics point to no god, the constant laws of nature point to no god, the theory of relativity points to no god, the sheer arrogance of human insistence on there being a god with no evidence points to no god, evolution points to no god, down's syndrome points to no god, Hitler points to no god.

[bloomingdedalus]

@MikeDecipher If, for some reason, there is a god that has always existed, left absolutely no trace of his having been around, refuses to intervene for the good or evil of mankind, doesn't talk to anyone, never shows up, he sure as hell is one lazy motherfucker who doesn't deserve to be worshiped anymore than a father who gets drunk at the bar every day after work and on weekends deserves to be loved. The best evidence for no god is the capacity of man to invent stories to control people.

[FazlokAaAaAaA]

we are working with this in school and this was very usefull not all i was looking for but almost! tnx

[universeplayground]

white people are insane

[mutulus]

what happened to the rest of the video?

[Ghurshah]

Thank you for this video.

[universalmoor]

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