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  • Since I'm a devout Evans player, I recommend the EMAD-2-Onyx batter head combined with the EMAD-reso. Also, pick-up at least an EQ pad. Mount it inside the BD but "not touching the heads". This provides a good starting point before placing it "against the head" in an effort to shorten sustain. Please let know how it works out.

  • @bobgatzen i want a sound like the rev use on the city of evil album, i have both remo powerstroke bass drum heads (the bottom head is ebony and have a porthole) what tunning i need to do to have that sound, and i need a pillow or something?

  • What style BD heads are you currently using? You might find replacing your current reso head with a Evans EC-reso "coated". I might do the trick for you.

  • could you demonstrate with a coated head, I want to tune my bass like yours but I prefer a coated head

  • at 1:40 when we loose only 1 tension rod, do we have to make all this procedure to all the tensions rods, or only one? do we need to check for even tension after this?

  • @StromboliKicks Often a single rod might not match the others in pitch. Raise (or lower) the single tension rod and try matching the remaining t-rods to that pitch. It's not unusual for the pitches to be slight off from each other due to the condition of the head and /or shell. get em as close as you can!

  • Hi! I've got my drums in about 6 months ago, and they were tuned from the store, i don't know if that were great or something, but i saw this video. My Bass drum is tuned medium-very tight and it sounds like if u just play and a head, i can't hear the drum at all. Atm i got a small and a medium pillow in it, might help if i remove one or two?

    Also, my snare seems to be loosening itself all the time, i tighten them about 3-4 times when i play for an hour, the coating is almost gone too?

  • @bertram7074 im not bob obviously, but are the snares loosening or is the head loosening?

  • @drumsforever101 No longer an Issue, sorry :-)

  • @bob

    I've tried the technique mentioned in this video and I'm still having trouble tuning my bass drum on the resonate side. I find that after I've lifted the pressure from the drum head, the tuning pegs which had been tight are now loose and the drum is still out of tune. I think it's because the head needs replaced but I can't afford a new one at the moment. Is there any way I can make do with the old head without buying a new one?

  • @TheMrMul Re-mounting an old head is not the solution. Place the drum on the floor with one face down. Making small incremental drum key moves, tap the head directly in front of the t-rod and match pitches around the entire circumference of the drum. Then flip the drum over and do the same for the opposite side. This technique should get you in the ballpark.

    Let me know how it works out

    Bob

  • @bobgatzen

    Thanks alot. Its sounding better! Its not as "dead" sounding.

  • @TheMrMul Great news!! BD's the heartbeat of the kit! Getting a good sound and feel is over 50% of the climb!!! You're well on your way my friend.

  • @TheMrMul try putting pillow inside.

    

  • Are you formiliar witha product called drumdial drum tuner? I guess what its suppossed to do is measure the tension between each lug, so you couln have the same tone coming from each lug. Do you think this is worth it for $59.99

  • @MyFilmsProduction Yes, it's a Tama product. It's a handy device that will help you to establish and hear "equal" pitches around the circumference of the head. However, it's always best to invest time & energy into "ear training". Think of the DD as a stepping stone and view the "Tonal Tuning" series on the channel. The message is SING, SING ...SING!

    Happy New Year M!

  • I would also like to extend my thanks to you Mr. Gatzen. I struggled with tuning for years until I bought your first video on tuning. It helped me to understand how the drums work and how tuning affects them and I am forever grateful for your teaching. I used to dread tuning the drums and had no confidence in getting a good sound. You helped me overcome that and I now don't have to "fear" breaking a head or having to replace any of them! Thank you.

  • @LeopoldGold1 Well thank you so much Leopold! it's stories like yours that inspire and reassure me that taking the time to reach out to my fellow drummers is worthwhile. Let's stay in touch and please call me Bob, as all my friends do.

    Bob

  • @bobgatzen Thank you sir! You definitely are helping many drummers become more comfortable with their instrument. I again cannot thank you enough for the information you provide on tuning and for the products you've helped to invent for drummers around the world.  I wish I could put into words how helpful your videos have been and remain to be. There is nothing worse than dreading changing heads and tuning them and like I said, you made it possible for me to overcome that. A million thanks!!

  • @LeopoldGold1 Thanks for the touching message. It means a lot to me! Always do my best to share and stay in contact with fellow drummers.

  • what kind of mic are you using on that kick?

  • @jacobsmith78 Shure KSM 44

  • Bob you are a master of tuning drums,

    but you also make sense to me so i understand the concepts and elements of tuning drums, your drums sound awesome and look great!

    once again thank you for these vids as they help me alot and are very inspirational towards me playing,

    Cheers Bob

  • @jtc95 My pleasure jt! This way everbody wins...It's a 2-way street. Thanks again!

  • This tickles my fancy

  • what kind of tama drum set is that? rockstar or superstar?

  • @RA710 Neither, It's a Noble & Cooley 22"

  • @bobgatzen

    oh haha. bass drum at 1:36 looks like a tama. my bad

  • @RA710 No problem

  • Hey bob, I wanted the look of a smooth white reso with a large center hole (7") and I am just wondering, how would that sound and feel?

  • @danvranic positioning a vent hole in the center will essentially eliminate resonance ...depending on size (hole circumference). this is why it became popular to position the hole as close to edge as possible.

  • @bobgatzen im just going to use it as a studio head, but ive heard plenty of artists using that 7" center hole with some reallly powerful (non-triggered) kicks.

    Im not going for a very resonant sound, just a kick CLICKBOOM!

    have you heard the new Metallica DVD? <-- that kick sound :D

  • @danvranic OK, I understand now...didn't know what musical genre your into. Of course positioning a mic inside or in front off the vent-hole will generate the fullness and density in sound with plenty of attack. EQ'ing will play a key factor for the sound you're after. The center vent design is not just about SOUND, it's largely about the FEEL at the pedal board.At hi-volume levels the drummer will intuitively want to feel a "stop" sensation at the pedal board.

  • @bobgatzen thank you very much bob!

  • @danvranic My pleasure D

  • @bobgatzen oops another question! a two-ply batter with a single ply reso (with 7" hole) or single-ply batter with two-reso (with 7" hole)

    or even both single ply?

    which would have more punch and low end for metal?

  • @danvranic Of course the 2-ply batter is more durable. However, the single ply head will deliver more attack. A good solution is the Evans "GMAD". It's a thicker (12mil) head that offers more durability than the traditional 10 mil BD batter (i.e.EMAD-1)... but still provides a solid attack characteristic.

  • @bobgatzen awesome, if i put a click pad, or a falam slam on a 2 ply head, would it give it more attack?

  • @danvranic Absolutely, but it will stiffen the feel significantly...there's always a trade-off. Sound is Feel.

  • @bobgatzen  which is just fine for me so even better! thanks again

  • @danvranic Then you're in dan!!

  • @bobgatzen is that a clear reso you have on that kick?

    how does that sound?

  • @danvranic It's an EQ-3 batter. I believe the reso head is black. This was shot pre-EMAD innovation.

  • Hey Bob, how do i go about tuning 2 bass drums? like a double bass set-up, it seems almost impossible to match them

  • @C0reyBernard This is an age-old problem not unlike getting rid of sympathetic snare buzz. Rarely, do 2 "identical" bass drums sound the same. Your best bet is to "duplicate" head types, pedal beater, internal muffling but most importantly. tuning. In theory, the 2 drums should sound the same, but they don't. Pinpoint the differences in sound (sustain, tone, attack) then tweak tuning & muffling on "one" of the drums to duplicate the other drum which is your basic sound source.

  • @bobgatzen Thanks for your reply, i actually do have the same heads, on both bass drums i have the Emad Onyx system (batter/reso combo) and my muffling consists of 2 identical pillows (1 inside of each placed the same) and i've tried everything, from finding the LPP to tap tuning every lug and i just cant seem to get it? would it work better if i was to tune to a note or a pitch?

  • @C0reyBernard Are the pedal beaters exactly the same height and striking position at the head?

  • @bobgatzen Yes, it seems that one of my heads is faulty? i have one onyx has that has a nice low thud sound, and the other seems to have a clicky bas drum sound

  • @C0reyBernard Best to pull both heads off the drum and tap them. Compare the sound of the tap but more importantly listen for overall sustain. When it comes to 2-ply heads in general sustain can vary... it's very typical of 2-ply, large diameter heads.

  • hey bob, I also using ZHT cymbal fast crash like mrdrummer1992 said. but im looking for a cymbals that i can use for different music. Im a christian drummer i mean church drummer. hope you can help me for this..

  • @looklikemagic Cymbal sounds are so subjective, it's impossible to categorize cymbal sounds. Personally, I think the "A Customs are Zildjian best "All-around" crash cymbals. Hope this helps

  • hey bob got a ?

    what do you think about the Zildijan ZHT fast crashes..r they any good?

  • I've only messed with them at conventions. They're a good value based on sound and pricing. However, no one can tell you what works for YOU! I wouldn't but em blind on-line...make sure you try em out at a store.

  • thank you bob

  • does anyone know how to tune macrhing drums

  • yes, go the Evans on-line and make request. We are heavily involved with the marching community.

  • He must have the best tuned drumset of the world!!

  • wow! that BIG...thanks D!!!

  • No Problem Dude but your Tips are worth a mint!!! (Hopefully I used the right idiom

    :-) Im from Germany :D)

  • tips... mint!!.... no problem in communication... Thanks D!

  • Dear bob,

    I'm having trouble with the feel of my batter head. I have a 20x20 bass drum and have tried tuning the drum very high and very low. I also took the resonant head off to make it louder. I have an iron cobra pedal but cant seem to get any power out of it, as when playing on my toes, the pedal returns too soon and isn't around when i slam my foot down. Any suggestions? Also should i try a bigger port hole? I have a 6 right now and a pinstripe batter. thanks

  • The Pinstripe provides less stability from the batter than say... an Evans EMAD-2 which offers much more pedal control. The 6" hole is fine... this is not a "venting" issue.

    Also, you want to place a pad inside the drum. Just placing a pad inside the drum without touching the heads will lower overall pitch. The Evans EQ-Pad is perfect in regards to controlling SOUND & FEEL. best to goto Evans online and learn more about sound control pads and placement. Hope this helps!

  • bob, what type of batter head and reso head tightness do u recommend for that metal sounding bass drum. the kicks a 22 by 18 and I have the emad 2 as the batter and the emad reso. im looking for that good click sound

  • It's a tricky formula. The truth is Metalheads go for attack versus sustain. However, In an effort to decrease sustain, muffling techniques generally "softens" the attack characteristic.

    My best advice is to control sustain by placing the pad only to the RESO head and be sure to use a hard beater (plastic/wood) on the batter head. Dont forget to apply a protective patch! Lower tuning of the batter (flopped out) head will generate more click. Try it ... let us know how it works out.

  • have you tried using a batter head for reso before? im wondering what sound this would produce if any at all, maybe using a reso with port holes? lay it on me

  • Sure..."like heads can provide a very special sound but extremely limited in tuning range. The only way you'll know if works for you is to try it. It's worthwhile experiment!

  • @bobgatzen what kind of sound do you think it will produce?

  • Not sure what u mean. What is "it"?

  • using a batter head as a reso head, what kind of sound will it produce? do you reccomend it for micing or recording?

  • Hey your videos are really helpful, but i have one question. My bass drum is much louder than my other drums, and i want it to be quieter, muffling is not what i am looking for, I just want it to be more quiet. Any tips?

  • Thanks e! need more info to help out. BD size, brand/type of reso and batter heads, current muffling techniques.

  • Well its a pearl rythm traveler and its 20x8. I have a stock head on batter and aRemo Ebony Powerstroke 3 Bass Drum Head with 5 Port Hole on reso. I currently have a small pillow inside which touches both heads. I figured it is the size of my BD that gives it this loud non deep tone and my batter head, but if you have any tips on tuning or what batter head i should buy to make the sound deeper and queietr that would be a ton of help!

  • My best advice to to experiment with combination. Try the Evans EMAD-Onyx batter with Onyx reso. This film generates a dry, controlled sound. Be sure to place an EQ pad inside the drum NOT TOUCHING the heads. If you can't track an EQ pad then place small pillow or towel inside the drum.

  • Ok when i get enough money i will buy these heads, thanks!

  • You're very welcome e!

  • got any tips on tuning 2 kick drums?

  • Let's see... hardly ever do they sound the same, so don't get frustrated with that. You'll notice it but the listener won't. Actual "pitch" is less important for BDs, than "scaling" each drum to its inherent "sweet spot". Tune the batter and reso to "lowest possible" pitch (LPP) and listen. Move up in 1/2-step increments and audition each step. Like discovering goldBAM!!... there it is. Best to place an EQ pad (or any soft, sound absorbing material in the drum... not touching the heads.

  • ok cheers thats helped me out alot.

    sorry to be a pain but what is scaling?

  • Scaling is tuning to "pitches" that form a scale. For instance, Let's say the lowest pitch is "C". As you tune the drum upwards in 1/2 steps you'll notice that certain "pitches" sound better than others. Example: C>D>Eb>F>G are sweet spots that resemble a scale. It's a process of elimination in knowing where the drum is at.

  • oh right get it! legend! BIG help cheers dude

  • my pleasure!

  • hey bob, i am getting an EMAD1 but i don't know whether to get a coated or clear. Which will give me more low end? Thanks,

    John

    PS, All the best for the new year

  • Cool! The coated will deliver more low end but with a somewhat shorter sustain and less "slap" than the clear version.

  • Thanks John! Happy NY to you too.

  • ok i don't understand... ive tried methods like this, starting from scratch with the wrinkles on both heads and getting the lowest sound possible, and when trying it i always get a much more resonant boom. i don't understand how he gets the flat tight sound right off the bat. maybe it's the specific kind of drum?

  • Every drum has a specific "range" of tuning possibilities. Some drums more than others. For instance...10 &12" drums provides more tuning range the the 14 & 16" toms. You start with the lowest possible pitch than raise the pitch of both heads in small increments to explore the range of tuning. Where you pitch the drum is subjective, personal choice.

  • what peddle is that jeez it looks fast ?

  • Hmmm, I believe it's a DW prototype of the 5000 or an Axis.

  • You want fast... check out "Drumheads Only" The B.O.A. Pedal System "Defined" and the Marco Minnemann video on the BOA System.

  • at the very end at like 3:53. how did you get your drum so muffled without anything touching the one side? and with just that little pillow ?

  • Yes, the Evans EQ pad is totally adjustable in regards to the amount of pressure placed on the head. We another version called the RGS-PAD that offers even more tone control

  • Bob,

    thanks again for all your expertise you are sharing. i have a Mapex maple kick (22x18), using an Evans EMAD batter with a stock non-ported head on the front. have a small blanket inside for feel and absorption. without a port on the front head, how close should i place the kick drum mic to achieve a warm thump without resonance? any advice would be great! grateful for your help, Jason

  • I've had good results by setting the mic approx 6-10 inches from the head surface approximately 4-6" off center. It's important that the reso head having an "internal" dampening ring or pad touching it.

  • thanks so much Bob. i appreciate the tip. happy holidays to you and your family.

  • same to you Jason

  • Hi Bob.

    Thanks for your advice - it really helped me to get a lower fundamental tone from tha bassdrum!

  • Cool! that good news... thanks for writing jan!

  • Hi Bob,

    I have just discovered your tuning videos - great and inspirational stuff.

    I have one question. I own a Buddy Rich Ludwig drum set from the early eigthies.

    Sizes 24x 14, 13x3, 16x16, 16x16. My problem is that I can´t get enough bottom from the bass drum. It´s equipped with a Coated Ambassador on the batter side and Amdassador Smooth White on front. I believe Buddy used a rather tight tension for his bass drum heads, but he still got a great depth. Any advice?

    /Jan

  • There is so much much new technology in drum head design that you should be able to find exactly that your after. What I'm saying is, head styles and combinations that Buddy didn't access to may produce exactly the same sound as his double/sing;e head configuration. One thing you can do is place a small pillow or better yet an Evans EQ pad inside the BD, NOT TOUCHING THE HEADS. This will lower overall pitch & create more low frequency sustain. Check out BD heads on the Evans site. Let me know

  • when you use muffling pads, what can you use for that? or do you have to buy them?

  • You can use common household stuff, pillows, blankets, duct tape etc. But with products like EQ, RGS or Min-Emad muffling pads from Evans, muffling is far more efficient and controllable.

  • alright, Thank you.

  • im confused about wrinkle based tuning for resonant heads with port holes. how do you do that? note: i dont have one yet...

  • The idea is if you apply pressure at dead center of the the drum head, "equal pressure" is distributed around the entire perimeter of the head. While holding the pressure to the center, then detune each t-rod until the wrinkles stop moving, then tuning slightly higher places equal pressure around the head's edges at the lowest possible pitch (LPP) Tuning-wise, this technique gets you in the ball park. All you have to do is tweak it until your smiling!

  • I could ask a few questions but for now I'll just ask, are you playing in Philadelphia/New York anytime soon?

    Still in a bass drum dilemma but everything else sounds great now, Thanks!

  • I did a 5 day tour last month in the Long Island area finally ended @ the Drummers Collective in Manhattan. However, my clinic tours are sporadic, We try to balance them between high demand R & D periods and product releases.

  • hello bob! I'm a bass player from venezuela, since I'm seeing you videos I'm starting to be more curious about the drums and how it sounds, and now I'm thinking to learn to play this wonderfull instrument :D the tuning videos help us me and my band drummer, to find a better sound in our drum set. Thanks a lot! you're encouranig so many peaple to be creative and make better music. Greetings from venezuela!

  • Well thank you very much. This has always been my goal. Communicating with fellow drummers on YT has been wonderful!

  • Hey Bob, what head did you use here? Was it an EQ1, 2, 3, or 4?

  • That's an EQ 3. This video was shot before we invented the EMAD BD head series.

  • Oh, ok. Cool how you had all these ideas before the EMAD!

  • Yup... actually, my "Inventor / R & D" career began in the early 80's designing Noble & Cooley drums.

  • Lol, tuning drums is why I'm quitting. I literally hate every bit of tuning a drum. My hands have a form of carpal tunnel so they writhe in pain when turning the lugs on my drum heads to make them tight so they match the others to produce a high quality sound.

  • Hi! It´s me again Mr, Gatzen. Another question I have. according to tom tunning is, how can i tune a 5 lugs tom, or which method can i use? Thank you for your answers, and keep on, you´re the best.

  • It's the same approached as "even" # of tension rods. Go to the farthest t-rod across the head to the opposite side. 12:00>4:00>10:00>2:00>8:00

    Oops almost forgot.... you're welcome & thanks back to you for writing

  • Mr. Gatzen, how can i tune the resonant head if the mic hole is on the center of the head?

  • Always best to off-set the vent hole to maximize resonance. I'd aim for the lowest possible pitch. Check by tapping the edges until of the "warble" sound goes away and pitch is detectable

    Good luck!

  • Thank you a lot, Mr. Gatzen, it worked and now i have a good bass drum sound. You´re great!

  • You're welcome and thanks you for writing...means alot to me

  • i want my kick drum to sound like an 808 drum machine. seems like dampening is the only way to get that tight, punchy sound.

    Right now my kick is covered in all sorts of dampening material which gets me closer to the sound i want.

    any tips for a nice controlled clean kick (hip-hopish) anybody? Should I open up the kick and just throw more blankets in there? This kick is for recording and i'm not looking for a 'huge' sound.

    been tuning my bass drum all day - im going nuts here folks!

  • Pillows and blankets are "old school". The Evans EQ pad and RGS pads are completely adjustable and effective. The sound your after can be easily achieved by using and EQ pad up against the reso head and a RGS pad to the batter. The RGS has an adjustable feature that controls the amount of pressure exetered to the head, A 2 ply batter head like the EQ 3 or EMAD 2 will work fine for what your after.

  • sorry i ment 1:40. lol

  • what pedal r u usin at 2:40

  • This a few years ago...I believe it was DW prototype I was testing.

  • kool. how much are the boa double pedals

  • They are priced about same as DW 5000's

  • Low tension settings are best for "burying the beater" The more the head resonates the more "chatter" you'll experience at the pedal.

  • Hey Bob I was wondering that if I should buy the EMAD Resonant Drumhead with the EMAD Onyx Batterhead?

  • I like the EMAD reso with the EMAD Onyx. That's the combo I'm currently using on the black/red flamed kit.

  • What do you mean by stop/start miving? Can u help?

  • Miving? Timing-wise, where is it on the video?

  • 00:33 I meant "moving" sorry.lol. Im talking about the wrinkles in the bass drum.

  • When the wrinkles stop distorting at each t-rod, you've reached the lowest level of tension applied to the head. This provides a starting point to then, incrementally increase tension at each t-rod until the head begins to fully vibrate without distortion in sound. Keep in mind the bass drum head has a very limited in tuning range. It's easy to miss the sweet spot... make small incremental turns. Even though its the largest drum on the kit, be gentle!

  • sounds nice!!!

  • hey man i think it might just be that the bass drum head is stock but mine sounds like hitting wood or something. i have watched this over and over again and i do what you say but maybe its the head or maybe I'm doing something wrong. thanks,  brendan

  • Joey...Refresh my memory...drum set and head brands would be helpful

  • Ummm. sorry its a Tama 8-piece Rockstar and my bass drum heads are stock...

  • I'd invest into the Evans EMAD BD head system. The EMAD2 and EMAD reso heads produce instant results. Also, it's very important that you place an EQ pad or any sound absorbing material (towel,blanket etc) inside the BD, NOT TOUCHING the heads, unless you chose to muffle the heads. This technique will provide more low end. hope this helps

  • Bob you are the man!!!! Finally someone is teaching the ways to tune a kick and do it well. Showing and telling people "grab a drum key and find your kick sound". Keep it up man great work!! In my years of playing i could never find someone who was honest and yet gives the confidence to tune. That doesn't make the person feel like they should just go get a key and figure out what works. Great job...i am going to watch the rest of the videos!!

  • Oh man... what a nice message to receive after 8 straight days of rain!! I love success stories, thanks M!

  • Bob i have been playing for a while and i have seen many many many drum videos where the gentlemen just goes through "technique" and just gives you no confidence in tuning. Makes it sound so ohh so very very hard. You just tell everyone to just do a few simple things and go with your gut and you will find your sound. Awesome job.

  • That's soooo good to hear. This work is not about stroking my ego... I'm confident in regards to my accomplishments and the work I do. This is about you guys, fellow drummers discovering themselves at the drums. Thanks so much for the inspo!

  • You deserve it sir!! So i noticed you use evans heads...are you an endosrer??

  • Ha! You could say that. Actually I design many of the Evans drum- set heads. Genera, EQ, EC, EMAD Powercenter, G-2, etc. I've been doing R & D for Evans since 1990. So you see, this is why I can't promote our competition... who by the way, also makes very nice heads.

  • dude your awsome!

  • Well thank you very much Zach... always feels good to get positive feedback

  • Bob do you have any muffling in this drum at all?

  • Yes, an Evans EQ pad inside the drum. It lowers the pitch of drum just by being inside the shell. It's wise to put some sound absorbing material inside drum regardless of whether it touches the heads or not. Sustain is controlled by the pad touching the batter and or reso head.

  • So what would you do to a bass drum that has standard plain heads? Or better yet, would you do the same tuning technique if you weren't using Evans? Thanks for all your videos, they help a lot!

  • Yes, the tuning technique refers to all head styles

  • What bass drum pedal is that?

  • I believe it was a DW Double pedal prototype. Something that never hit the market.

  • wat resonant head r u using for your bass

  • EQ 3 Resonant or EMAD-resonant

  • True about the large shells not having a wide range but, you still have to tune to notes Bob. On a gig, the bass player was complaining how he was out of tune on the low E, only, I found, it was the kick drum that was at E-flat that was out of tune, not the bass. For the key of G, I tune the reso head to a G 3rd fret low E string on an acoustic. Then, I tune the batter to a low D. That works for a 22" kick. By using a soft mallet in a quiet space, one can tune to notes.

  • My goal is to simplify drum tuning. I understand your style but the fact is most drummers are struggling with the basics, ear training, drum design, head choices etc. Helping drummers to experience the connection between Sound & Feel. That is what my channel is all about.

  • I see; it's for people just starting out. My bad. Do you have other videos for professionals that cover tuning trap kits to keys and tuning the drums to notes. I would like to get one of those for myself.

    Do you have another channel or, someplace else I can go to for pro drum tuning lessons? Thanks. CM

  • I will be opening a channel in the near future. Not sure when to send you in the meantime..sorry... wish I could be more helpful.

  • Ok. Thanks Bob. CM

  • There's no measureables here Bob and there should be. People need a repeatable process for tuning and, it's preferred to teach them how to tune the drum to a pitch such as low D, E, F, G etc. Once you have the reso pitch to batter ratio, you now have a "formula". Anything can be measured, even drum tuning. The part that can't be taught is hearing notes / pitch to tone deaf people. When I need to tune my 10 to a G, I can because I have a process that is repeatable.

  • Large diameter drums not only have the least amount of useable tuning range , pitch recognition becomes less detectable. Batter and reso heads should be close in pitch for best results. This technique is about attaining the lowest possible pitch then making small incremental changes at each t-rod until you hear something you like. It's a very simple formula. Pitch recognition is a skill that just about anyone can acquire through repetition and routine practice techniques.

  • What's going on Bob?! I've used the EMAD for a while now but I think I want to go back to the EQ series. Which one are you using in this video, EQ1, 2, or 3?

  • It's the EQ 3

  • Hey Bob

    I have a mapex 22" bass drum with an Aquarian Super Kick 1 head. this head has a muffling ring but still a lot of of over-tones i would like a nice thud sound but not to lifeless and quite.

    whould a bit of damping help?

    Any help is much appreciated!

  • Pick up an Evans EQ pad or RGS for more control in pressure against the head

    Also, good idea to experiment with the Evans EMAD head system

  • what bass drum pedal is that

  • It's called the "BOA" pedal system. I designed this system for DW. You can check it out on dw online...go to PDP and search BOA

  • can you get a good non ringy sound from a cheap bass drum without much internal muffling or none at all

    cheers Bob

  • Muffling is the control for sustain that also controls the ringing tone you describe. The best you can do is place an Evans EQ pad (or any sound absorbing material) at the bottom of the shell, "Not touching the heads". This will control overtones producing more low end.

  • Hey Bob, how can I have my Bass nice and LOW without losing feel and articulation?

  • The Evans EMAD-2 and EMAD-reso are a great combo for bottom end. Also, the new "ONYX resonant head works well with the E-2. If you don't need a vent hole than replace the reso with the EQ-1 for increased lo-end sustain.

    Place an EQ pad in the drum, not touching the heads will provide lower frequencies to sing.

  • not really a drum reaction but i really admire it how you respond to everyone!

  • Well thank you!

    It's a 2-way street... this way everyone wins. Also, it's about originality, being "different" by treating the YT platform as if it were myspace or facebook.

  • hey, is putting a pillow inside your bassdrum a good way to absorb sound? or do i have to use a special absorbing material like the one in this video? i hope uc an help me on this. thanks!

  • The pillow is overkill! Best to pick up a couple of the Evans EQ pads. They are totally adjustable, allowing just the right amount of dampening for every drummer's style, taste.

    The "RGS" version offers even more control in regard s to pressure against the head. I'd go for one of each. You're welcome and thanks for viewing the channel.

  • Never uploaded a video with that name?

  • Bob, you rule!!! I'm just wondering. I already mentioned muffling but out of all muffling tools, which wud you suggest?