My friend Cajun: is any discussion pointless that has as its core concern that some other person is going to miss the eternal death in the lake of fire? Or should we applaud any person who will dialogue with another searcher. You see I was one of those who KNEW all the answers too. (BUT secretly was searching for Truth & was quite unsure of myself). So, please join me in prayer for those who will take "stuff" from unbelievers in hopes to bring them to God. May God bless all their efforts 4 Him.
Sigh. Who is giving christians a bad name? who is giving Jesus a bad name? Jesus says: We are Peacemakers, Why are christians here not being Peacemakers? We are Sons of God not sons of Satan. Read the bible Matthew 5.
Bailong it was you that admitted god had David's wives raped...remember when i went back and found where you said it ? I even sent blacksolar the date and quotes where you said it :)
@DarkBeauty1989 And didn't I redo the research and saw no indication a rape took place and it was more likely a divorce took place? I even said that to say that someone can't turn back the clock to redo his research is like someone saying you can't correct your work on a math equation after seeing you did something wrong. So the fact is I said it but the fact also is I corrected myself.
@DarkBeauty1989 No that one is true. And let me ask you something if 2 people pass a math test both with 100% and one test taker got his by correcting his work and the other by cheating then who is the one that is the most deserving of the grade?
@bailong329 let me ask you something..why did you make a FAKE scripture up ,then sent me to a real one on meditation ,and still refuse to give me the actual reference where he said that? I know ...YOU LIED :) you lost that debate
@bailong329 let me ask you something..why did you make a FAKE scripture up ,then sent me to a real one on meditation ,and still refuse to give me the actual reference where he said that? I know ...YOU LIED :) you lost that debate
@DarkBeauty1989 Thanks again for providing more proof that your dogmatic. You think twisting words is going to make you feel right. All it does is confirm my own accusations about you.
@bailong329 I didnt twist anything ..your analogy proves god is just as a bad as a murderer. god sees the evidence of women being raped and people being killed but he looks the other way :(
@DarkBeauty1989 Did I use it on god or did I use it on you? If I used it on you then your twisting words. Thats a malicious act and what did I say identifies a Bitch. Doesn't the definition specify malicious acts? I can repost the definition if you like. I also listed examples of how the opposite appears to be true. Thanks for providing more proof that you fit the profile of a Bitch. If you don't want to be Identified as such then don't twist peoples words.
@bailong329 Its not my fault your fitting the description of words you don't like to be called. Thats your own fault I am just stating the facts as I see them. Just like with me calling you dogmatic. You dont like being called that so now you've stooped to being a Bitch thinking thats so much better.
@bailong329 Oh and not to change the subject but I am on this topic with another dogmatic christian. Christian parents beat their 7 yr old daughter to death .Prov 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
@DarkBeauty1989 then its twisting words DEAL WIT IT and I told you before I dont care and will never read any of your BS stories. I know for a fact every one of them are lies mixed with Truth according to Ravi Zacharious " the lotus and the Cross" that creates a much more destructive lie. So I am not going to read nor pay any attention to it. And sense you are creating such lies then that is a malicious act so you just provided more proof that your a Bitch.
@DarkBeauty1989 Your so called" murders" and unjustified acts is how he saves people who were victimized by others. So it doesn't Did Jonah just get swallowed by a whale for no reason? No he was punished for refusing to Minister to the Ninevites and when he submitted he began his ministry. Did Joseph remain as a slave in Egypt? No he ended up with the highest position in Egypt? Did he let the Israelites die from being massacred by Raiders and murderous nations? No, he gave them the means to_
@bailong329 bring their attackers to justice. So it doesn't apply and you twisted it by ignoring these events also took place. So its proof that your doing malicious acts and making malicious lies fitting the definition of a Bitch.
@DarkBeauty1989 Again twisting words your just providing more and more proof that your a Bitch do you realize that. Its no different then you providing more and more proof that your dogmatic. Here is why Spare the rod and spoil a child does not beat your kids to death it means diciplining brings understanding? How do you understand when your beaten to a pulp or even to the brink of death? So that shows you twist even biblical words and that is the proof.
@bailong329 The bible clearly say you can kill your kids if they dont obey. Even Jesus approve of this . So those parent were just following Jesus. It says to BEAT them with a ROD. ....so they will not die=death of their soul .
@DarkBeauty1989 thats where the 2nd part which you always overlook comes in. Specifically the word spoil. Look it up in any dictionary and one of the defs you find is To do harm to the character, nature, or attitude of by oversolicitude, overindulgence, or excessive praise. See Synonyms at pamper. This is why the meaning is Dicipline brings understanding. Cuz a spoiled child has no understanding. I once read of a Child who was put away for life cuz he liked to set fires and he burned his house_
@bailong329 and killed his family in the process. He knew that fire could kill but he had no understanding of what that meant. So when it says to kill a child for lack of obediance what is really being said (and I can name other examples as well if you still want to show Pride) is that if a child doesn't learn understanding and becomes a DANGER to the community (and even the bible lists examples of this which match the example I gave and the translation I GAVE.) then he needs to be executed_
@bailong329 lol no it says to kill the child that does not obey the parent ...lol not because he is a danger LMAO. There you go again ,another dogmatic christian adding words to the bible .
@DarkBeauty1989 then why does the def of spoil indicate a child who is out of control and rebellious? If he is out of control in a nomadic society and rebellious then he is a danger I will give another example of this and this is well documented in 1645 a little girl actually turned on her OWN mother and condemned her to death for witchcraft. I literally have 1000s of these examples if you still want to challenge that interpretation. There you go again assuming twisting words and asserting a _
@bailong329 There are tons of teens today that our rebellious,lazy ,and drunks. So you are saying they all deserve death? you example is about witch craft... bible support killing witches so it goes both ways.And you are Dogmatic :)
@DarkBeauty1989 LMAO yeah go ahead and twist my words more your just solidifying the accusation. HAHAHAA Being drunk doesn't make you rebellious in the ancient sense, being Lazy doesn't make you rebellious in that sense Rebellious in the ancient sense is literally turning on your parents in a life threatening manner. Even giving a threat alone is enough to have you executed back then and in modern courts thats called " Intent" and you can be arrested for it_
@bailong329 if you want to use ANY Generalism rebelliousness is literally TURNING ON YOUR PARENTS. Do you have any evidence that Gautama said anything I am not going to give anything until you do. I will meet your demand AFTER you meet mine and not before and it better be from a document written by him and not somebody else a century later.
@bailong329 the witch trials serve as classic examples of this same form of rebelliousness cuz ( and you can look this up for yourself) the majority of the accusations actually CAME from children. In fact, there is a book written about how to commence a trial for witches and it actually says that testimony from children are the most credible for witch trials. Showing an open door for any rebellious child that wanted to get back at their parents for anything.
@bailong329 according to scripture he did say there was a soul/afterlife. i gave it to you several times. Now what was it according to that buddha said there is no soul/afterlife?
@DarkBeauty1989 According to a document written 100 years after the fact. That doesn't meet my demand I said specifically it has to be written BY HIM and not 100 years later. So you didn't meet my demand.
@bailong329 Jesus didnt write the bible lol. And I never said Buddha wrote it did I? You made a claim that buddha said there is no soul/afterlife. so what is that in reference to?
@DarkBeauty1989 look up Physical and Literary Evidence That the Gospels Are Authentic on google your evidence is there. Oh so just cuz you find that its impossible to meet my demand you think I am refusing to give reference and somehow that proves I don't know what I am talking about? HA thats like saying you can refuse to accept a speeding ticket cuz you were j- walking at the same time.
@DarkBeauty1989 if that were true then I would not have made terms to answer. Which means I studied it and already knew you couldn't answer no matter how much you tried. I also knew that your pride wouldn't allow you to be humiliated in such a way so you were going to insist that I provide an answer so you can save face. But here is your problem you've already lost face.
@DarkBeauty1989 let me put it to you this way. If a thief was caught shoplifting in the local store what do you think the store owner is going to say to the thief when he tries to get out of buying what he stole? Its the same answer here.
@bailong329 he wouldnt say anything he would call the police . whats your point? More like you cant answer the question because you have no reference for where the buddha said that :)
@DarkBeauty1989 Exactly what store owner would ever allow a thief to get away with stealing. Even if he gave the thief the option to pay for it out of mercy. He would still make sure he would never return. My point is your trying to get my referance without paying my price. And I won't give it unless you do. Your not stealing it and you are not going to get out of buying it.
@bailong329 Its been how many mths since you made the claim that Buddha said there is no soul? You still cant give me the referance because you dont have one. You lied and made the whole thing up .
@DarkBeauty1989 Its been how many months sense you did not meet my demand and the same number of months you keep complaining thinking that somehow repeating the question enough times is going to get it out of me. I SET THE PRICE YOU CAN'T PAY IT. SANE people just move on and drop it you don't want to cuz your dogmatic and a bitch. If you can't pay the price then move on but if you think you can harass it out of me then I will NEVER give it to you do you understand me.
@bailong329 what demand?LOL hey if you dont have the scripture you just dont have it and you are a liar. I asked you first several several mths ago where did he say that and you still refuse to give me it ....lol you even made up a fake scripture so go ahead and admit you are a LIAR
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh really and who was it that said Mithra Day was the same Christmas Day when Zoroastrian Tradition clearly says it was the 16th day of the 6th Month? Yeah thats right that was you. Who was it that said Davids wives were raped when no such words are ever used to indicate a rape took place? Also you. And who was it that said God Committed unjustified atrocities when the scripture clearly indicated that they followed an even more heinous crime against gods people? Also you. So who_
@bailong329 is the bigger liar? You accepted truth from much less sources with vary little academic credit and you have the gaul to call me a liar when you are guilty of using lies yourself? Obviously that makes you a liar, and if you want to challenge that claim then give me a credable source that supports any of your claims? Until then your a liar.
@bailong329 btw in case you think I am only indicating those cuz I remember them think again. I have many more examples of you lying your way around the truth and using false claims and uncredable sources.
@DarkBeauty1989 I presented 3 already but if you want a fourth, when you said David used Impalement when the scripture clearly indicates hanging and the earliest recorded act of impalement was under Cyrus The Great who lived 200 years after David.
@DarkBeauty1989 hahahaha you were just exposed as a devious and quite possibly the worst liar ever and now you want a hand in helping you invent another lie hahahaha. Your on your own this time. I don't have any respect for your sort. I wouldn't stop my car if I saw you crossing the street.
@DarkBeauty1989 how about the historically accepted version which suggests hanging. Sense in Ancient hebrew Culture the depictions of a hanging man from a tree limb was the sign of condemnation.
@bailong329 your a liar what respect do you deserve sense you have no respect for anybody else but yourself so I am the one that should say WTF is wrong with you. Typical Bible basher.
@DarkBeauty1989 Except the tree is symbolical of life. Impalement therefore doesn't suggest condemnation its like insisting that giving someone a rose is an insult. A person hanging from a tree is more accurate in accordance to Jewish practice because it means rejection from life. You can walk around this all you want your not getting around the historically accepted version. If they are impaled then your stuck with the fact that the ancient Jews used a method not befitting a condemned man._
@bailong329 what an agnostic you are. You will lie to your own child to win an argument. Thats the most despicable act imaginable. You don't even deserve children. LMAO
@bailong329 no impalement suggest they were hung on a stake...lol you can walk around this all you want with your fake history ..but the jewish translation says impalement .you and your apologetic babble bullshat. lying to my child? where that come from? you are the one that lies ..and christians lie to their kids telling them the KNOW for a fact the bible is real .
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh really if its fake then how come all the researchers with University chairs are more in favor that the Jews either used hanging or used stoning as execution methods? If anybody is giving fake information its you. I even have the researchers to back it up. Oh really and who was that insisted Jesus went to India when the Gospal of Luke clearly shows Jesus was back in Nazareth by age 2? That was you.
@bailong329 Wow your swearing more obviously I struck a nerve and I won. LMAO HAHAHA I will just take that as an admission you lost. And I know you lost to cuz you always lose your temper when I state a fact you can't talk around HAHAAHA.
@bailong329 My Tanakh was translated by Jewish scholars. since when did "shat" become a cuss word? since you cant give me your referance for over 3 mths and gave fake and incorrect scripture I will take it that you lied and lost the debate. And since you called me a bitch and said you would run over me i will take it that i pissed you off cause you hate to lose debates :)
@DarkBeauty1989 shat in brit english is the same as Shit. You forgot I teach English language for a living. Did I? Didn't I also point out you fit the description of one and I had no respect for liars and you don't deserve children cuz you would lie even to them. Wow you must really be angry. And Jewish scholars of various religious debate among themselves whether or not the Talmud is a religious book making them a bad sub for a university researcher.
@bailong329 I guess your anger confirms I WON LMAO. Your just cranky cuz you can't outsmart me despite your best attempts and all your arrogance and I find it so easy to get under your skin HAHAHA.
@bailong329 I don't even use Apologetics as substitutes for them. I only use them for their knowledge and expertise on bible knowledge with most of my work coming from CS Lewis and Ravi Zacharious. History I use actual History Professors and Archaeologists.
@bailong329 hmm well I didnt know that ....but it dont matter i cuss alot goddamn fuck shit shat . LOL dude i didnt forget I never knew . Really cause I havent lied to my kid. from santa to god I havent told her not one lie. I would never bow to a god that would torment my kid if she was gay or not christian..would you? hmm maybe you dont deserve kids? You want to kill me and called me a bitch..wow u r angry.
@DarkBeauty1989 You told her the same BS stories you told me and you even admitted it with your story about how you got your daughter to not want god in your house. LMAO listing cuss words just tells me your frustrated to high heaven LMAO. Really I am angry but who was it that just listed a bunch of cuss words in frustration LMAO. Care to rephrase that one LMAO. I am just enjoying watching you act like a whiny brat not getting her wayLMAO.
@bailong329 "admitted it with your story about how you got your daughter to not want god in your house. "
Idk what you are talking about. maybe you are talking about when her friend gave her a bible and I told her god in the bible killed babies. DID I LIE? NO.
Thats the only bad thing i told her (other then he is evil) Just wait untill she is older and i will show her all the slavery ,rape,and mass murder.
@DarkBeauty1989 and go ahead I invite you to just so I can have the satisfaction of her DISOWNING YOU as her mother for not accepting her for who she is. A person can only be pushed so far did you think there were exceptions to that fact.
@bailong329 oh right cause just like the bible says DISOWN and KILL your family if they dont worship god. Why would she disown me? lol accept her for who she is? I do which is why I will love her and accept her no matter what religion or nonreligion she picks. no matter if she is gay ..or even a hooker or on drugs. I will always love her and never disown her. I dont follow the bible but if she did I could see why she would disown me and prob kill her buddhist father as god said to do
@DarkBeauty1989 See your reacting that means I am in control and your frustrated and I am just laughing my head off watching you. Well thats the first honest thing you ever admitted to " I dont follow the bible"
@bailong329 yet I am happy and you are calling me a bitch,want to run me over ,and would get pleasure out of my daughter disowning her mother...haha seems you are the one that is grumpy not me.
@DarkBeauty1989 really and who is reacting every time I point your lies. Thats right thats you. If I am grumpy by your standard then that must make you ENRAGED LMAO HAHAHAHA.
@bailong329 umm reacting? you mean sending a reply to your comment? lol . I am not the one making threats to run you over :)
DO YOU HAVE THE SCRIPTURE WHERE BUDDHA SAID THERE IS NO SOUL/AFTERLIFE YET? maybe you want to check with some of those buddhist university professors? lmao
@DarkBeauty1989 Did I threaten? I merely said" I wouldn't stop" that doesn't show intent. Neither does " I HAVE A VERBAL gun pointed at your head" this is what I mean by reaction cuz this shows your brain isn't working properly which usually happens when people are frustrated. HAHAHAHA. Do you have any proof Jesus was a Buddhist? LMAO Oh really did you even look up the actual researchers? and got there view there is even a video on Youtube called Zeitgiest debunked if you want the full list of_
@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
@bailong329 yeah so you are saying if I ever walked infront of your car you would run me over..thats a threat. means you have homicidal intentions. No Idk jesus was a buddhist ..but he sure did teach the same stuff.
@DarkBeauty1989 No cuz I used the word would ( suggesting it would probably happen Notice how would and probably go together cuz they mean the same thing) If I said " I AM GOING TO RUN YOU OVER" thats intent then its a threat. You can look it up if you want to I am sure free dictionary gives an ex. Actually according to all academics both Post and Present Jesus's teaching and the Bible as a whole and Buddhism are Diametric opposites. Which you can also look up.
@bailong329 Yeah so if you had the chance you WOULD run me over lmao. Should I start copying and pasting this comment and writing the dates so I can always go back and show people what you said? YEAH :)
@DarkBeauty1989 If you want to copy and paste more lies then I can just copy and paste all your lies. Would you like to play that game? I am sure you would be proven a liar in which case noone will care what you have to say. So if you want to play that game then lets play and see who gets labeled the liar first.
@bailong329 oh I just want to show all the other christians how you called me a bitch and said you want to run me over . go ahead and copy and paste all you want.
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh then lets go just keep in mind that once they see you as a liar they will ignore all your claims they don't care if I said them or not. Keep in mind you will bring their judgement on YOURSELF AND I AM GOING TO LAUGH AT YOU WHEN IT HAPPENS.
@bailong329 yeah they are going to see your comment about wanting to run me over..but knowing them they prob cheer you on. Knowing you you will deny your comments and even remove them. You fail to show I am angry and fail to show I have lied . You did prove what a hateful lying homicidal sadist you are .
@DarkBeauty1989 oh on the contrary if nothing else you helped me with that one comment. I showed you are a liar. And I listed only fraction of your lies. You may not see them as such CUZ YOU SAID THEM but anyone that looks them up will see YOUR LYING and that makes me so happy. :)
@bailong329 I am happy you proved that you cant give me scripture where buddha said that ....and that you showed everyone on this page what a hateful sadist you are just like your god :)D lalalala
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh really who turned out to be lying when you wrote that Mithra day was December 25th when it was July 16th. That was you that means you lied. LMAO so the untrustworthy liar is YOU LMAO.
@DarkBeauty1989 Tell it to Zoroastrian tradition cuz according to that it has nothing to do with the winter solstice. Cuz the 16th day of the 6th which even in modern day Iran the word for July is Mihr. So try lying your way out of that one.
@bailong329 how can you get joy from someone else being wrong or from someone who did you wrong? If someone is wrong they are but it shall not be our job to envy that nor judge the person just simply allow yourself to let it go.
@MsChildren09 As for you I knew the risk in saying what I said and I gladly accept " Falling on a sword" as long as it means darkbeauty getting exposed as the compulsive liar that she is and I would gladly do it again as long as before this is over she learns humility. If that means being a voluntary sacrifice then so be it.
@DarkBeauty1989 When does your character come into play if you believe what you have said is true it should not matter what others think. As for you like I told @bailong329 it is not of either of you to judge one another or any other Christian on this page!
@MsChildren09 Bailong told me he would run me over ....called me a bitch...and told me he would get pleasure out of my daughter disowning me. you need to correct him because i debate wih him without saying things like that to him
@DarkBeauty1989 on the contrary when you call our god evil and that he orders people to beat their kids or rape or commit atrocities YOUR SAYING WE ALL DO THAT. SO I DO CONSIDER THAT THE BIGGEST LIE YOU EVER TOLD. If you accuse one of us you accuse ALL OF US.
@bailong329 I never said you all do that...but by defending the Bible you defend those actions. My husband read the Avesta when he was in Iraq before he became buddhist ..mithra bday was the winter solstice dec 25th
@DarkBeauty1989 it doesn't matter we are a body. Who accuses someones hand of murder instead of the suspect? No cop I have ever heard of. Therefore we are all part of the same God therefore you accuse him you accuse us. The avesta wasn't written until THE 4th and 5th century AD. I just looked it up. So with that said we are going to stick with what traditional Zoroastrianism says end of story.
@bailong329 Actually it turns out Dec 25th is irrelavent sense the Bible doesnt give a specific thats the traditional Nativity story that suggests it the Bible states that Christ was born in the Spring and the big indicator to confirm is the Shephards Bethlehem would have been too messed up for shepherds to take their sheep around that area. And it was the Roman Church that adopted Dec 25th As the official birth of christ IN THE 3RD CENTURY and as Archaeology provides proof that by this time_
@bailong329 Christianity was already 3 centuries old we know this because of existing writings that talk about the Christians that last starting from the Reign of Emperor Tiberious. It was also adopted cuz starting from the 1st Century AD the Romans were already exposed to Mithraism which not much was known about the Mithra Cult before the 1st century and after the 3rd century they started having many Parallels to Christianity. As Mike Licona put it " WHO IS COPYING WHO HERE?"
@bailong329 if you want to challenge the sheep story then just go to Bethlehem herd some sheep in the Winter time and see how miserable you feel you will learn how impracticle it is immediately plus I bet your husband can tell how much those winter nights in the Mideast suck to high hell. So as it turns your right but it doesn't matter sense the Romans adopted it and the Bible itself gives proof he wasn't born on that date SORRY LMAO.
@bailong329 In case your wondering why I didnt just simply say your right? The answer is cuz that defeats the purpose of a bitter victory that gives you NOTHING LMAO.
@bailong329 ok you are the one that brought this up . We all know christianty adopted several things from Mithra because they wanted to convert pagans . Pagans wanted to keep their pagan holidays.Emp Constantine was still worshiping the sun god when he converted to christianity. Yes I know Jesus wasn born Dec 25 ... Easter also has nothing to do with him
@DarkBeauty1989 Really does the Bible say that? There are only 2 books in the whole bible that give any specific info on Jesus's birth one is Mathew the other is Luke, and neither say he was born in winter but Spring. Really christianity adopted then why is it all pre 3rd century writings of Christianity we see absolutely NO I repeat NO similarities whatsoever. If you have a problem with this fact I suggest you take it up with Mike Licona google his name find his email and message him.
@bailong329 He will actually tell you word for word that Mithraism didn't start having similarities until AFTER the 3rd century. Before that we know what early Christian practices were cuz we have just as many writings within the reign of Tiberious about Jesus and Early Christianity and we don't much about the 1st century Mithraism but we know it wasn't bearing ANY similarities to Christianity cuz of those writings
@bailong329 umm I just agreed that Jesus wasnt born in winter. The facts are Emp Constantine mixed his religion with his new religion and went around murdering those that would not convert. Lets look at what else christianity copied ....waling on water ,Buddha been did it before Jebus. Having the trinity ONE GOD IN MANY FORMS,hinduism been had that. I think,dont know that all realigions have truth and lies in them. No one true religion .
@DarkBeauty1989 "waling on water ,Buddha been did it before Jebus."--->Wait but wasnt The book of Job talking about God treading on the surface of the seas? So tell me again how Jesus stole that from buddha?
"Having the trinity ONE GOD IN MANY FORMS,hinduism been had that."--->No you see hinduism talks about the different personalities of one God, Christianity says that our ONE GOD came to die for us. Do the research. =)
@DarkBeauty1989 if that were true then you wouldn't have Roman Historians as well as Roman Governors from the 1st and 2nd Century writing about the early Christians just as the bible described them. I see you still haven't written to Mike Licona yet or your even afraid to. LMAO I got you shaking with that one didn't I. Well what if I told you I have other names that can also disprove your other claims of a copycat religion.
@bailong329 Have you watched Zeitgeist Debunked Yet? All my names even Mike Licona are REAL University Professors unlike your sources that probably think 1 degree is enough when there contemporaries who really ARE experts have multiple degrees. To list one example Zahee Hawas the famous Egyptologist has at least 4 degrees that I am aware of and thats just without looking at his bio. According to the Myth of Gautama walking on water he didn't walk he levitated and did it to convert someone_
@bailong329 Jesus didn't walk on water to convert anyone he did it to see what kind of faith Peter had. And IF YOU REALLY DID READ THE STORY Peter also walked on water but the second the sec he realized where he was he immediately fell in and Jesus picked him up and said why he asked Peter to walk on the water with him. This didn't happen with Gautama making the similarities end right with the water and then they go in 2 opposite directions confirming they are both unrelated and varifies that_
@bailong329 the 2 stories are unrelated and are diametric opposites. Actually if you think Hindhuism depicts God in many forms then you need to retake world religions cuz God is actually an extension of Brahmin. In a sense all other gods are actually part of Brahmin. And do you know how many gods there actually are in Hindhu belief ALOT. I have actually heard it say that if you worshipped each god everyday it would take you something like 10 years to get to everyone that is a far cry from 3_
@bailong329 and actually this isn't the christian trinity cuz in Hindhuism they are all just incarnations of the same essence Brahmin in the form of Avatars and not an actual godhead. The trinity godhead is extremely complex but requires a belief that One god can exist as 3 different beings (father, spirit, son) and at the same time be the same being God. Its vary hard to describe accurately but all analogies are a far cry from how Brahmin is depicted cuz if you worship Shiva for ex_
@bailong329 your still worshipping Brahmin just like if you worship Kali cuz they are extensions of Brahmin this is why most Hindhu's say there are no multiple gods when there are there is just Brahmin. With the Trinity on the other hand if your worshipping God your worshipping the Father but if your worshipping Jesus your worshipping the Son. Imagine an untouched Egg of any kind you have the yoke white and shell thats the trinity. Brahmin is more like you take that egg crack it up make an _
@bailong329 stir it up and make an omelette thats brahmin. So they are universally different and based 2 universally different ideas. And I only used the egg analogy cuz its the simplest and easiest to get the major differences between the 2.
@bailong329 One god in many forms...hmm sounds like christianity did copy hinduism. All the gods in hinduism are the one true god Brahmin, just in another form(like energy). Thats the same thing your religion teaches. Also like energy, hinduism teaches god is in everyone.
John17:20-23 talks about being one, just like both hinduism and buddhism.
@DarkBeauty1989 "and there were gods in hinduism that walked on water . Hinduism predates Judaism :)D"--->YES lets count everything they write as valid, seeing how they also wrote that the world sat on the back of a giant turtle. XP also how do you know that the scripture they posted that verse in predates Job? Have you researched the particularity book?
Also your original argument was simply "Jesus copied buddha" when in factt it was the exact opposite.
@TheBlackSolar Walking on water is nothing special for gods in religion.
Your original argument was buddha copied hinduism..now you changed it to jesus who walked on water after buddha and hindu gods.
Now you shouldnt make fun of other religions when buddhism agrees with bigbang and evolution, but bible says the sun hurries back to where it rises as and the earth does not move
@DarkBeauty1989 "Your original argument was buddha copied hinduism..now you changed it to jesus who walked on water after buddha and hindu gods."--->That was never my original argument. My original argument was as to why you were on here. However your husband who is buddhist claims that buddhism has nothing to do with hinduism. So go talk to him about that.
"Now you shouldnt make fun of other religions when buddhism agrees with bigbang and evolution"--->Yeah and as Ive seen the--
@TheBlackSolar I think all religions have truth and bullshit in them ......he knows this. We have our own little debates . as far as morals were pretty much agree. Buddha described the expansion of the universe. started thinking maybe energy is "god" or souls. Energy cant be created or destroyed only changes into other forms. rebirth maybe?
Now I let you change the subject once again. DO YOU HAVE THE SCRIPTURE WHERE BUDDHA SAID THERE IS NO SOUL/AFTERLIFE? WHAT IS IT YOU THINK GETS REBORN?
@DarkBeauty1989 "started thinking maybe energy is "god" or souls. Energy cant be created or destroyed only changes into other forms. rebirth maybe?"--->So buddha was energy and therefore was reborn is what you believe correct?
"DO YOU HAVE THE SCRIPTURE WHERE BUDDHA SAID THERE IS NO SOUL/AFTERLIFE? WHAT IS IT YOU THINK GETS REBORN?"--->Are you seriously gonna ask the me the same question I already answered?
@DarkBeauty1989 (cont) evelution has wholes in it and many people are starting to shy away from it, and as far as the big bang theory there are other theories that explain the origin of the universe. One actually was made by a christian and is starting to show up the big bang. I read about it a few months ago but cant remember the name of the theory. XP
@TheBlackSolar They found human/monkey fossil so I am very open to the idea of evolution. But I guess satan planted it there. Buddha also talked about several bigbangs I think. He also said there is life on other planets..hey we just discovered a new plantet that could have life on it .....so who knows.
@DarkBeauty1989 "They found human/monkey fossil so I am very open to the idea of evolution."--->Explain it if you can...
"Buddha also talked about several bigbangs I think."--->You think or you know?
All your statements of buddha are "I think this..." and "maybe..." how do you follow something you dont know? Or rather how do you protect something you dont know?
@TheBlackSolar They even had the fossils on tv on some show. they looked half money/human. in the Aggañña Sutta of the Pali Tripiṭaka or canon. According to this sutta, the universe itself is subject to impermanence and cycles of expansion and contraction.
well the universe may have never began..it could have always existed. the energy inside it could also have existed even if it didnt. Just because the universe expands doesnt mean it had be created.....
@DarkBeauty1989 "well the universe may have never began..it could have always existed. the energy inside it could also have existed even if it didnt. Just because the universe expands doesnt mean it had be created....."---> The fact that it experiences growth is the very proof that it had a beginning. There is no denying this fact. The universe at one point was made.
@DarkBeauty1989 Now you see thats your first problem I even gave an anology showing how its different and you read stuff into it just cuz you don't like what it means. If Christianity copied Hindhuism then why does it teach that the Universe has a Clear Beginning and Hindhuism teaches Brahmin( or the universe which is what it really is)has always existed. I think you need glasses. God is not Brahmin even the Hindus themselves list them as seperate. I can go on with the examples_
@bailong329 if Jesus is apart of Brahmin then why does he pray TO GOD THE FATHER as if he was not part of a greater entity? That doesn't sound like Brahmin to me that sounds more like a clear distinct seperatness with a relationship. THATS ANTIBRAHMIN cuz Brahmin is all gods are extensions of Brahmin. Jesus praying to the father doesn't sound like an extension. So its not the same thing if want to contend this I can go on with the examples but your just going to look stupid, and you just GAVE_
@bailong329 more proof that your dogmatic. I just read the whole chapter he is not talking about being one as in what the Hindus teach. He is talking about one Body which isn't a mesh of all things a body has things called a Heart, a brain and Bones things that operate seperately but apart of the whole body. Ever heard of the body of Christ if you actually followed the Bible you would know Jesus taught it. Obviously you didn't and you just gave proof to that fact.
@DarkBeauty1989 OH YES IT DOES cuz if it didn't then paul in 1 Corinthians 12:12- to 14 wouldn't have elaborated more on it. SO YES HE was and once more sense 1 Corinthians is the continuation of Jesus's ministry through the diciples then the existance of this scripture proves thats what he meant END OF CONVERSATION. You know what I think I think you will reject any form of proof anybody presents cuz your a coward. I even have proof you refuse to look it up yourself. If you want to challenge me_
@bailong329 then stop being such a coward and look it up. Before you make a reply before warned if the next comment is excuse why you don't want to look it up I DONT CARE IF YOU SAY ITS A RANT I am not going to read it. If your going to challenge me then look it up yourself and see the truth for yourself.
A wonderful song..Thanks i can perform this in my church!!!
stylin5able 32 minutes ago
Wonder what happened to my post earlier this am?
Kansasman4Jesus 4 days ago
My friend Cajun: is any discussion pointless that has as its core concern that some other person is going to miss the eternal death in the lake of fire? Or should we applaud any person who will dialogue with another searcher. You see I was one of those who KNEW all the answers too. (BUT secretly was searching for Truth & was quite unsure of myself). So, please join me in prayer for those who will take "stuff" from unbelievers in hopes to bring them to God. May God bless all their efforts 4 Him.
Kansasman4Jesus 4 days ago
Wonderful..... Another pointless online debate that largely degenerates and changes no minds........ Congratulations in participating.
LokitheCajun 6 days ago 4
*know*
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
*religions*
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
*walking*
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
Sigh. Who is giving christians a bad name? who is giving Jesus a bad name? Jesus says: We are Peacemakers, Why are christians here not being Peacemakers? We are Sons of God not sons of Satan. Read the bible Matthew 5.
t0ny1992 1 week ago
Jesus is real. there is evidence that prooved he existed. died and ressurected.
t0ny1992 1 week ago
@bailong329 Prov. 14:7, 16, you tried, but there are some people that won't listen :P
awesomepersun 1 week ago
Bailong it was you that admitted god had David's wives raped...remember when i went back and found where you said it ? I even sent blacksolar the date and quotes where you said it :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 And didn't I redo the research and saw no indication a rape took place and it was more likely a divorce took place? I even said that to say that someone can't turn back the clock to redo his research is like someone saying you can't correct your work on a math equation after seeing you did something wrong. So the fact is I said it but the fact also is I corrected myself.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 lol oh now you finally admit you did say that :) Guess you want to redo where you said buddha said there is no soul? :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 No that one is true. And let me ask you something if 2 people pass a math test both with 100% and one test taker got his by correcting his work and the other by cheating then who is the one that is the most deserving of the grade?
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 let me ask you something..why did you make a FAKE scripture up ,then sent me to a real one on meditation ,and still refuse to give me the actual reference where he said that? I know ...YOU LIED :) you lost that debate
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 and I know YOU LIED with every source you ever presented.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
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@bailong329 let me ask you something..why did you make a FAKE scripture up ,then sent me to a real one on meditation ,and still refuse to give me the actual reference where he said that? I know ...YOU LIED :) you lost that debate
Let me know when you make up another one :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
Fuck your God Jesus or Allah.Crom is your new God.Your old God is a fucking coward.Hail Crom.
Zodist 2 weeks ago
oh and thanks again for admitting you think god is as bad as a murderer hehe
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Thanks again for providing more proof that your dogmatic. You think twisting words is going to make you feel right. All it does is confirm my own accusations about you.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 I didnt twist anything ..your analogy proves god is just as a bad as a murderer. god sees the evidence of women being raped and people being killed but he looks the other way :(
thanks for the help
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Did I use it on god or did I use it on you? If I used it on you then your twisting words. Thats a malicious act and what did I say identifies a Bitch. Doesn't the definition specify malicious acts? I can repost the definition if you like. I also listed examples of how the opposite appears to be true. Thanks for providing more proof that you fit the profile of a Bitch. If you don't want to be Identified as such then don't twist peoples words.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 Its not my fault your fitting the description of words you don't like to be called. Thats your own fault I am just stating the facts as I see them. Just like with me calling you dogmatic. You dont like being called that so now you've stooped to being a Bitch thinking thats so much better.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 Oh and not to change the subject but I am on this topic with another dogmatic christian. Christian parents beat their 7 yr old daughter to death .Prov 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Lev 20:9,Matt 15:4-7,and Deut 21:18-21
I will sit back and watch you try to ramble out of that one :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 You used it on me but it applied to god :) DEAL WIT IT :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 then its twisting words DEAL WIT IT and I told you before I dont care and will never read any of your BS stories. I know for a fact every one of them are lies mixed with Truth according to Ravi Zacharious " the lotus and the Cross" that creates a much more destructive lie. So I am not going to read nor pay any attention to it. And sense you are creating such lies then that is a malicious act so you just provided more proof that your a Bitch.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 Ok how did I twist it? Does god swoop in and save the day? NOPE so it did apply to god :(
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Your so called" murders" and unjustified acts is how he saves people who were victimized by others. So it doesn't Did Jonah just get swallowed by a whale for no reason? No he was punished for refusing to Minister to the Ninevites and when he submitted he began his ministry. Did Joseph remain as a slave in Egypt? No he ended up with the highest position in Egypt? Did he let the Israelites die from being massacred by Raiders and murderous nations? No, he gave them the means to_
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 bring their attackers to justice. So it doesn't apply and you twisted it by ignoring these events also took place. So its proof that your doing malicious acts and making malicious lies fitting the definition of a Bitch.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 ok so you are saying its ok to beat your kids to death because it is just? lol. Oh and that proves the bible is evil so i win :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Again twisting words your just providing more and more proof that your a Bitch do you realize that. Its no different then you providing more and more proof that your dogmatic. Here is why Spare the rod and spoil a child does not beat your kids to death it means diciplining brings understanding? How do you understand when your beaten to a pulp or even to the brink of death? So that shows you twist even biblical words and that is the proof.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 So all you win is another confirmed accusation against yourself.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 The bible clearly say you can kill your kids if they dont obey. Even Jesus approve of this . So those parent were just following Jesus. It says to BEAT them with a ROD. ....so they will not die=death of their soul .
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 thats where the 2nd part which you always overlook comes in. Specifically the word spoil. Look it up in any dictionary and one of the defs you find is To do harm to the character, nature, or attitude of by oversolicitude, overindulgence, or excessive praise. See Synonyms at pamper. This is why the meaning is Dicipline brings understanding. Cuz a spoiled child has no understanding. I once read of a Child who was put away for life cuz he liked to set fires and he burned his house_
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 and killed his family in the process. He knew that fire could kill but he had no understanding of what that meant. So when it says to kill a child for lack of obediance what is really being said (and I can name other examples as well if you still want to show Pride) is that if a child doesn't learn understanding and becomes a DANGER to the community (and even the bible lists examples of this which match the example I gave and the translation I GAVE.) then he needs to be executed_
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 before he becomes too dangerous.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 lol no it says to kill the child that does not obey the parent ...lol not because he is a danger LMAO. There you go again ,another dogmatic christian adding words to the bible .
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 then why does the def of spoil indicate a child who is out of control and rebellious? If he is out of control in a nomadic society and rebellious then he is a danger I will give another example of this and this is well documented in 1645 a little girl actually turned on her OWN mother and condemned her to death for witchcraft. I literally have 1000s of these examples if you still want to challenge that interpretation. There you go again assuming twisting words and asserting a _
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 false interpretation makes you right. In fact it just provides further proof you match the description of a Bitch and Dogmatic.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 Oh do you have the scripture where Buddha said there is no soul/afterlife? I am still wanting to know what that is accroding to btw?
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 There are tons of teens today that our rebellious,lazy ,and drunks. So you are saying they all deserve death? you example is about witch craft... bible support killing witches so it goes both ways.And you are Dogmatic :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 LMAO yeah go ahead and twist my words more your just solidifying the accusation. HAHAHAA Being drunk doesn't make you rebellious in the ancient sense, being Lazy doesn't make you rebellious in that sense Rebellious in the ancient sense is literally turning on your parents in a life threatening manner. Even giving a threat alone is enough to have you executed back then and in modern courts thats called " Intent" and you can be arrested for it_
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 if you want to use ANY Generalism rebelliousness is literally TURNING ON YOUR PARENTS. Do you have any evidence that Gautama said anything I am not going to give anything until you do. I will meet your demand AFTER you meet mine and not before and it better be from a document written by him and not somebody else a century later.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 the witch trials serve as classic examples of this same form of rebelliousness cuz ( and you can look this up for yourself) the majority of the accusations actually CAME from children. In fact, there is a book written about how to commence a trial for witches and it actually says that testimony from children are the most credible for witch trials. Showing an open door for any rebellious child that wanted to get back at their parents for anything.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 according to scripture he did say there was a soul/afterlife. i gave it to you several times. Now what was it according to that buddha said there is no soul/afterlife?
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 According to a document written 100 years after the fact. That doesn't meet my demand I said specifically it has to be written BY HIM and not 100 years later. So you didn't meet my demand.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 Jesus didnt write the bible lol. And I never said Buddha wrote it did I? You made a claim that buddha said there is no soul/afterlife. so what is that in reference to?
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 No but his diciples and the people who lived those moments DID. So nice try making a parallel but my demand stands.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 LOL where is your PROOF his diciples wrote it and actually existed?
Wow look how you refuse to give me the reference for your claim :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 look up Physical and Literary Evidence That the Gospels Are Authentic on google your evidence is there. Oh so just cuz you find that its impossible to meet my demand you think I am refusing to give reference and somehow that proves I don't know what I am talking about? HA thats like saying you can refuse to accept a speeding ticket cuz you were j- walking at the same time.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 all your doing is stating you can't do it without saying you can't do it. LMAO oh thats the funniest thing I ever heard.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 so what is it in reference to ? hmm why cant you answer that?
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 why can't you answer mine? You I made the stepulation its not my fault you can't meet it. Thats your own.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 answer what? LOL you are trying your best to get out of answering me haha proving you are wrong :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 if that were true then I would not have made terms to answer. Which means I studied it and already knew you couldn't answer no matter how much you tried. I also knew that your pride wouldn't allow you to be humiliated in such a way so you were going to insist that I provide an answer so you can save face. But here is your problem you've already lost face.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 still waiting for you to tell me what that was in reference to
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 let me put it to you this way. If a thief was caught shoplifting in the local store what do you think the store owner is going to say to the thief when he tries to get out of buying what he stole? Its the same answer here.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 he wouldnt say anything he would call the police . whats your point? More like you cant answer the question because you have no reference for where the buddha said that :)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Exactly what store owner would ever allow a thief to get away with stealing. Even if he gave the thief the option to pay for it out of mercy. He would still make sure he would never return. My point is your trying to get my referance without paying my price. And I won't give it unless you do. Your not stealing it and you are not going to get out of buying it.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 paying the price? lame excuse for when you have no referance haha
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 always the excuse of the thief for not paying.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 and yet which one still goes to jail.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 Its been how many mths since you made the claim that Buddha said there is no soul? You still cant give me the referance because you dont have one. You lied and made the whole thing up .
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Its been how many months sense you did not meet my demand and the same number of months you keep complaining thinking that somehow repeating the question enough times is going to get it out of me. I SET THE PRICE YOU CAN'T PAY IT. SANE people just move on and drop it you don't want to cuz your dogmatic and a bitch. If you can't pay the price then move on but if you think you can harass it out of me then I will NEVER give it to you do you understand me.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 what demand?LOL hey if you dont have the scripture you just dont have it and you are a liar. I asked you first several several mths ago where did he say that and you still refuse to give me it ....lol you even made up a fake scripture so go ahead and admit you are a LIAR
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh really and who was it that said Mithra Day was the same Christmas Day when Zoroastrian Tradition clearly says it was the 16th day of the 6th Month? Yeah thats right that was you. Who was it that said Davids wives were raped when no such words are ever used to indicate a rape took place? Also you. And who was it that said God Committed unjustified atrocities when the scripture clearly indicated that they followed an even more heinous crime against gods people? Also you. So who_
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 is the bigger liar? You accepted truth from much less sources with vary little academic credit and you have the gaul to call me a liar when you are guilty of using lies yourself? Obviously that makes you a liar, and if you want to challenge that claim then give me a credable source that supports any of your claims? Until then your a liar.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 btw in case you think I am only indicating those cuz I remember them think again. I have many more examples of you lying your way around the truth and using false claims and uncredable sources.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 so i guess you think its ok to lie even tho the bible says not to? hehe
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 It pointed out your flaws didn't it? HAHA
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 I dont know what you are talking about ...so do you want to take back where you said Buddha said there is no soul/afterlife?
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 OH yes you do cuz you've been lying to every christian you ever argue with.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 give me an example:)
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 I presented 3 already but if you want a fourth, when you said David used Impalement when the scripture clearly indicates hanging and the earliest recorded act of impalement was under Cyrus The Great who lived 200 years after David.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 whats the verse for that so I can look that back up again.
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 hahahaha you were just exposed as a devious and quite possibly the worst liar ever and now you want a hand in helping you invent another lie hahahaha. Your on your own this time. I don't have any respect for your sort. I wouldn't stop my car if I saw you crossing the street.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 dude it says they were impaled lol
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 it says hanging from a tree. Nice try.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 Nice try my Tanakh says impaled :)
Hmm should I believe the jewish version or the christian version?
LOL so you run me over? wtf is wrong with you..typical christian.
DarkBeauty1989 2 weeks ago
@DarkBeauty1989 how about the historically accepted version which suggests hanging. Sense in Ancient hebrew Culture the depictions of a hanging man from a tree limb was the sign of condemnation.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 your a liar what respect do you deserve sense you have no respect for anybody else but yourself so I am the one that should say WTF is wrong with you. Typical Bible basher.
bailong329 2 weeks ago
@bailong329 dude what a true christian you are...you would run me over haha
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@bailong329 lol how about the actual jewish translation that says they were impaled?
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Except the tree is symbolical of life. Impalement therefore doesn't suggest condemnation its like insisting that giving someone a rose is an insult. A person hanging from a tree is more accurate in accordance to Jewish practice because it means rejection from life. You can walk around this all you want your not getting around the historically accepted version. If they are impaled then your stuck with the fact that the ancient Jews used a method not befitting a condemned man._
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 what an agnostic you are. You will lie to your own child to win an argument. Thats the most despicable act imaginable. You don't even deserve children. LMAO
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 no impalement suggest they were hung on a stake...lol you can walk around this all you want with your fake history ..but the jewish translation says impalement .you and your apologetic babble bullshat. lying to my child? where that come from? you are the one that lies ..and christians lie to their kids telling them the KNOW for a fact the bible is real .
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh really if its fake then how come all the researchers with University chairs are more in favor that the Jews either used hanging or used stoning as execution methods? If anybody is giving fake information its you. I even have the researchers to back it up. Oh really and who was that insisted Jesus went to India when the Gospal of Luke clearly shows Jesus was back in Nazareth by age 2? That was you.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Wow your swearing more obviously I struck a nerve and I won. LMAO HAHAHA I will just take that as an admission you lost. And I know you lost to cuz you always lose your temper when I state a fact you can't talk around HAHAAHA.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 My Tanakh was translated by Jewish scholars. since when did "shat" become a cuss word? since you cant give me your referance for over 3 mths and gave fake and incorrect scripture I will take it that you lied and lost the debate. And since you called me a bitch and said you would run over me i will take it that i pissed you off cause you hate to lose debates :)
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 shat in brit english is the same as Shit. You forgot I teach English language for a living. Did I? Didn't I also point out you fit the description of one and I had no respect for liars and you don't deserve children cuz you would lie even to them. Wow you must really be angry. And Jewish scholars of various religious debate among themselves whether or not the Talmud is a religious book making them a bad sub for a university researcher.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 I guess your anger confirms I WON LMAO. Your just cranky cuz you can't outsmart me despite your best attempts and all your arrogance and I find it so easy to get under your skin HAHAHA.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 I don't even use Apologetics as substitutes for them. I only use them for their knowledge and expertise on bible knowledge with most of my work coming from CS Lewis and Ravi Zacharious. History I use actual History Professors and Archaeologists.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 hmm well I didnt know that ....but it dont matter i cuss alot goddamn fuck shit shat . LOL dude i didnt forget I never knew . Really cause I havent lied to my kid. from santa to god I havent told her not one lie. I would never bow to a god that would torment my kid if she was gay or not christian..would you? hmm maybe you dont deserve kids? You want to kill me and called me a bitch..wow u r angry.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 You told her the same BS stories you told me and you even admitted it with your story about how you got your daughter to not want god in your house. LMAO listing cuss words just tells me your frustrated to high heaven LMAO. Really I am angry but who was it that just listed a bunch of cuss words in frustration LMAO. Care to rephrase that one LMAO. I am just enjoying watching you act like a whiny brat not getting her wayLMAO.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 "admitted it with your story about how you got your daughter to not want god in your house. "
Idk what you are talking about. maybe you are talking about when her friend gave her a bible and I told her god in the bible killed babies. DID I LIE? NO.
Thats the only bad thing i told her (other then he is evil) Just wait untill she is older and i will show her all the slavery ,rape,and mass murder.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 and go ahead I invite you to just so I can have the satisfaction of her DISOWNING YOU as her mother for not accepting her for who she is. A person can only be pushed so far did you think there were exceptions to that fact.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 oh right cause just like the bible says DISOWN and KILL your family if they dont worship god. Why would she disown me? lol accept her for who she is? I do which is why I will love her and accept her no matter what religion or nonreligion she picks. no matter if she is gay ..or even a hooker or on drugs. I will always love her and never disown her. I dont follow the bible but if she did I could see why she would disown me and prob kill her buddhist father as god said to do
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 See your reacting that means I am in control and your frustrated and I am just laughing my head off watching you. Well thats the first honest thing you ever admitted to " I dont follow the bible"
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 yet I am happy and you are calling me a bitch,want to run me over ,and would get pleasure out of my daughter disowning her mother...haha seems you are the one that is grumpy not me.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 really and who is reacting every time I point your lies. Thats right thats you. If I am grumpy by your standard then that must make you ENRAGED LMAO HAHAHAHA.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 show me how I am enraged when you are the one wanting to kill me and calling me a bitch? got that referance yet?
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 You keep reacting even now that shows that your emotions are out of control henceANGRY/ FRUSTRATED/ ENRAGED
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 umm reacting? you mean sending a reply to your comment? lol . I am not the one making threats to run you over :)
DO YOU HAVE THE SCRIPTURE WHERE BUDDHA SAID THERE IS NO SOUL/AFTERLIFE YET? maybe you want to check with some of those buddhist university professors? lmao
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Did I threaten? I merely said" I wouldn't stop" that doesn't show intent. Neither does " I HAVE A VERBAL gun pointed at your head" this is what I mean by reaction cuz this shows your brain isn't working properly which usually happens when people are frustrated. HAHAHAHA. Do you have any proof Jesus was a Buddhist? LMAO Oh really did you even look up the actual researchers? and got there view there is even a video on Youtube called Zeitgiest debunked if you want the full list of_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
bailong329 1 week ago
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@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
bailong329 1 week ago
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@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
bailong329 1 week ago
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@bailong329 that say otherwise also that the bible Neither OT nor NT is a copycat. If you don't look up their names and see what they say. They will even respond to your emails if you want to challenge what they say.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 yeah so you are saying if I ever walked infront of your car you would run me over..thats a threat. means you have homicidal intentions. No Idk jesus was a buddhist ..but he sure did teach the same stuff.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 No cuz I used the word would ( suggesting it would probably happen Notice how would and probably go together cuz they mean the same thing) If I said " I AM GOING TO RUN YOU OVER" thats intent then its a threat. You can look it up if you want to I am sure free dictionary gives an ex. Actually according to all academics both Post and Present Jesus's teaching and the Bible as a whole and Buddhism are Diametric opposites. Which you can also look up.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Yeah so if you had the chance you WOULD run me over lmao. Should I start copying and pasting this comment and writing the dates so I can always go back and show people what you said? YEAH :)
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 If you want to copy and paste more lies then I can just copy and paste all your lies. Would you like to play that game? I am sure you would be proven a liar in which case noone will care what you have to say. So if you want to play that game then lets play and see who gets labeled the liar first.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Is it me or did you remove all the comments where you called me a bitch?
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 that wasn't me maybe the owner of the vid spammed them. Who cares anyway.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 oh I just want to show all the other christians how you called me a bitch and said you want to run me over . go ahead and copy and paste all you want.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh then lets go just keep in mind that once they see you as a liar they will ignore all your claims they don't care if I said them or not. Keep in mind you will bring their judgement on YOURSELF AND I AM GOING TO LAUGH AT YOU WHEN IT HAPPENS.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 yeah they are going to see your comment about wanting to run me over..but knowing them they prob cheer you on. Knowing you you will deny your comments and even remove them. You fail to show I am angry and fail to show I have lied . You did prove what a hateful lying homicidal sadist you are .
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 oh on the contrary if nothing else you helped me with that one comment. I showed you are a liar. And I listed only fraction of your lies. You may not see them as such CUZ YOU SAID THEM but anyone that looks them up will see YOUR LYING and that makes me so happy. :)
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 I am happy you proved that you cant give me scripture where buddha said that ....and that you showed everyone on this page what a hateful sadist you are just like your god :)D lalalala
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Yeah but guess who gets the title of untrustworthy liar. YOU LMAO LALALALALA
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 you sure do
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Oh really who turned out to be lying when you wrote that Mithra day was December 25th when it was July 16th. That was you that means you lied. LMAO so the untrustworthy liar is YOU LMAO.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Mithra's birth is celebrated on the Winter Solstice
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Tell it to Zoroastrian tradition cuz according to that it has nothing to do with the winter solstice. Cuz the 16th day of the 6th which even in modern day Iran the word for July is Mihr. So try lying your way out of that one.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 how can you get joy from someone else being wrong or from someone who did you wrong? If someone is wrong they are but it shall not be our job to envy that nor judge the person just simply allow yourself to let it go.
MsChildren09 1 week ago
@MsChildren09 As for you I knew the risk in saying what I said and I gladly accept " Falling on a sword" as long as it means darkbeauty getting exposed as the compulsive liar that she is and I would gladly do it again as long as before this is over she learns humility. If that means being a voluntary sacrifice then so be it.
bailong329 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 When does your character come into play if you believe what you have said is true it should not matter what others think. As for you like I told @bailong329 it is not of either of you to judge one another or any other Christian on this page!
MsChildren09 1 week ago
@MsChildren09 Bailong told me he would run me over ....called me a bitch...and told me he would get pleasure out of my daughter disowning me. you need to correct him because i debate wih him without saying things like that to him
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 on the contrary when you call our god evil and that he orders people to beat their kids or rape or commit atrocities YOUR SAYING WE ALL DO THAT. SO I DO CONSIDER THAT THE BIGGEST LIE YOU EVER TOLD. If you accuse one of us you accuse ALL OF US.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 I never said you all do that...but by defending the Bible you defend those actions. My husband read the Avesta when he was in Iraq before he became buddhist ..mithra bday was the winter solstice dec 25th
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 it doesn't matter we are a body. Who accuses someones hand of murder instead of the suspect? No cop I have ever heard of. Therefore we are all part of the same God therefore you accuse him you accuse us. The avesta wasn't written until THE 4th and 5th century AD. I just looked it up. So with that said we are going to stick with what traditional Zoroastrianism says end of story.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 AH WOOPS need to correct the date on the Avesta hold on.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Actually it turns out Dec 25th is irrelavent sense the Bible doesnt give a specific thats the traditional Nativity story that suggests it the Bible states that Christ was born in the Spring and the big indicator to confirm is the Shephards Bethlehem would have been too messed up for shepherds to take their sheep around that area. And it was the Roman Church that adopted Dec 25th As the official birth of christ IN THE 3RD CENTURY and as Archaeology provides proof that by this time_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Christianity was already 3 centuries old we know this because of existing writings that talk about the Christians that last starting from the Reign of Emperor Tiberious. It was also adopted cuz starting from the 1st Century AD the Romans were already exposed to Mithraism which not much was known about the Mithra Cult before the 1st century and after the 3rd century they started having many Parallels to Christianity. As Mike Licona put it " WHO IS COPYING WHO HERE?"
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 if you want to challenge the sheep story then just go to Bethlehem herd some sheep in the Winter time and see how miserable you feel you will learn how impracticle it is immediately plus I bet your husband can tell how much those winter nights in the Mideast suck to high hell. So as it turns your right but it doesn't matter sense the Romans adopted it and the Bible itself gives proof he wasn't born on that date SORRY LMAO.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 In case your wondering why I didnt just simply say your right? The answer is cuz that defeats the purpose of a bitter victory that gives you NOTHING LMAO.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 ok you are the one that brought this up . We all know christianty adopted several things from Mithra because they wanted to convert pagans . Pagans wanted to keep their pagan holidays.Emp Constantine was still worshiping the sun god when he converted to christianity. Yes I know Jesus wasn born Dec 25 ... Easter also has nothing to do with him
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Really does the Bible say that? There are only 2 books in the whole bible that give any specific info on Jesus's birth one is Mathew the other is Luke, and neither say he was born in winter but Spring. Really christianity adopted then why is it all pre 3rd century writings of Christianity we see absolutely NO I repeat NO similarities whatsoever. If you have a problem with this fact I suggest you take it up with Mike Licona google his name find his email and message him.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 He will actually tell you word for word that Mithraism didn't start having similarities until AFTER the 3rd century. Before that we know what early Christian practices were cuz we have just as many writings within the reign of Tiberious about Jesus and Early Christianity and we don't much about the 1st century Mithraism but we know it wasn't bearing ANY similarities to Christianity cuz of those writings
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 umm I just agreed that Jesus wasnt born in winter. The facts are Emp Constantine mixed his religion with his new religion and went around murdering those that would not convert. Lets look at what else christianity copied ....waling on water ,Buddha been did it before Jebus. Having the trinity ONE GOD IN MANY FORMS,hinduism been had that. I think,dont know that all realigions have truth and lies in them. No one true religion .
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
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@DarkBeauty1989 "waling on water ,Buddha been did it before Jebus."--->Wait but wasnt The book of Job talking about God treading on the surface of the seas? So tell me again how Jesus stole that from buddha?
"Having the trinity ONE GOD IN MANY FORMS,hinduism been had that."--->No you see hinduism talks about the different personalities of one God, Christianity says that our ONE GOD came to die for us. Do the research. =)
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 if that were true then you wouldn't have Roman Historians as well as Roman Governors from the 1st and 2nd Century writing about the early Christians just as the bible described them. I see you still haven't written to Mike Licona yet or your even afraid to. LMAO I got you shaking with that one didn't I. Well what if I told you I have other names that can also disprove your other claims of a copycat religion.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Have you watched Zeitgeist Debunked Yet? All my names even Mike Licona are REAL University Professors unlike your sources that probably think 1 degree is enough when there contemporaries who really ARE experts have multiple degrees. To list one example Zahee Hawas the famous Egyptologist has at least 4 degrees that I am aware of and thats just without looking at his bio. According to the Myth of Gautama walking on water he didn't walk he levitated and did it to convert someone_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 Jesus didn't walk on water to convert anyone he did it to see what kind of faith Peter had. And IF YOU REALLY DID READ THE STORY Peter also walked on water but the second the sec he realized where he was he immediately fell in and Jesus picked him up and said why he asked Peter to walk on the water with him. This didn't happen with Gautama making the similarities end right with the water and then they go in 2 opposite directions confirming they are both unrelated and varifies that_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 the 2 stories are unrelated and are diametric opposites. Actually if you think Hindhuism depicts God in many forms then you need to retake world religions cuz God is actually an extension of Brahmin. In a sense all other gods are actually part of Brahmin. And do you know how many gods there actually are in Hindhu belief ALOT. I have actually heard it say that if you worshipped each god everyday it would take you something like 10 years to get to everyone that is a far cry from 3_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 and actually this isn't the christian trinity cuz in Hindhuism they are all just incarnations of the same essence Brahmin in the form of Avatars and not an actual godhead. The trinity godhead is extremely complex but requires a belief that One god can exist as 3 different beings (father, spirit, son) and at the same time be the same being God. Its vary hard to describe accurately but all analogies are a far cry from how Brahmin is depicted cuz if you worship Shiva for ex_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 your still worshipping Brahmin just like if you worship Kali cuz they are extensions of Brahmin this is why most Hindhu's say there are no multiple gods when there are there is just Brahmin. With the Trinity on the other hand if your worshipping God your worshipping the Father but if your worshipping Jesus your worshipping the Son. Imagine an untouched Egg of any kind you have the yoke white and shell thats the trinity. Brahmin is more like you take that egg crack it up make an _
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 stir it up and make an omelette thats brahmin. So they are universally different and based 2 universally different ideas. And I only used the egg analogy cuz its the simplest and easiest to get the major differences between the 2.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 One god in many forms...hmm sounds like christianity did copy hinduism. All the gods in hinduism are the one true god Brahmin, just in another form(like energy). Thats the same thing your religion teaches. Also like energy, hinduism teaches god is in everyone.
John17:20-23 talks about being one, just like both hinduism and buddhism.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Job 9:8 "He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea."
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@TheBlackSolar and there were gods in hinduism that walked on water . Hinduism predates Judaism :)D
apparently he alone isnt the only one that can do this
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 "and there were gods in hinduism that walked on water . Hinduism predates Judaism :)D"--->YES lets count everything they write as valid, seeing how they also wrote that the world sat on the back of a giant turtle. XP also how do you know that the scripture they posted that verse in predates Job? Have you researched the particularity book?
Also your original argument was simply "Jesus copied buddha" when in factt it was the exact opposite.
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@TheBlackSolar Walking on water is nothing special for gods in religion.
Your original argument was buddha copied hinduism..now you changed it to jesus who walked on water after buddha and hindu gods.
Now you shouldnt make fun of other religions when buddhism agrees with bigbang and evolution, but bible says the sun hurries back to where it rises as and the earth does not move
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 "Your original argument was buddha copied hinduism..now you changed it to jesus who walked on water after buddha and hindu gods."--->That was never my original argument. My original argument was as to why you were on here. However your husband who is buddhist claims that buddhism has nothing to do with hinduism. So go talk to him about that.
"Now you shouldnt make fun of other religions when buddhism agrees with bigbang and evolution"--->Yeah and as Ive seen the--
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@TheBlackSolar I think all religions have truth and bullshit in them ......he knows this. We have our own little debates . as far as morals were pretty much agree. Buddha described the expansion of the universe. started thinking maybe energy is "god" or souls. Energy cant be created or destroyed only changes into other forms. rebirth maybe?
Now I let you change the subject once again. DO YOU HAVE THE SCRIPTURE WHERE BUDDHA SAID THERE IS NO SOUL/AFTERLIFE? WHAT IS IT YOU THINK GETS REBORN?
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
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@DarkBeauty1989 "started thinking maybe energy is "god" or souls. Energy cant be created or destroyed only changes into other forms. rebirth maybe?"--->So buddha was energy and therefore was reborn is what you believe correct?
"DO YOU HAVE THE SCRIPTURE WHERE BUDDHA SAID THERE IS NO SOUL/AFTERLIFE? WHAT IS IT YOU THINK GETS REBORN?"--->Are you seriously gonna ask the me the same question I already answered?
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 (cont) evelution has wholes in it and many people are starting to shy away from it, and as far as the big bang theory there are other theories that explain the origin of the universe. One actually was made by a christian and is starting to show up the big bang. I read about it a few months ago but cant remember the name of the theory. XP
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@TheBlackSolar They found human/monkey fossil so I am very open to the idea of evolution. But I guess satan planted it there. Buddha also talked about several bigbangs I think. He also said there is life on other planets..hey we just discovered a new plantet that could have life on it .....so who knows.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 "They found human/monkey fossil so I am very open to the idea of evolution."--->Explain it if you can...
"Buddha also talked about several bigbangs I think."--->You think or you know?
All your statements of buddha are "I think this..." and "maybe..." how do you follow something you dont know? Or rather how do you protect something you dont know?
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@TheBlackSolar They even had the fossils on tv on some show. they looked half money/human. in the Aggañña Sutta of the Pali Tripiṭaka or canon. According to this sutta, the universe itself is subject to impermanence and cycles of expansion and contraction.
I answer all of your questions now answer mine
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@TheBlackSolar "origin of the universe"
well the universe may have never began..it could have always existed. the energy inside it could also have existed even if it didnt. Just because the universe expands doesnt mean it had be created.....
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
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@DarkBeauty1989 "well the universe may have never began..it could have always existed. the energy inside it could also have existed even if it didnt. Just because the universe expands doesnt mean it had be created....."---> The fact that it experiences growth is the very proof that it had a beginning. There is no denying this fact. The universe at one point was made.
TheBlackSolar 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Now you see thats your first problem I even gave an anology showing how its different and you read stuff into it just cuz you don't like what it means. If Christianity copied Hindhuism then why does it teach that the Universe has a Clear Beginning and Hindhuism teaches Brahmin( or the universe which is what it really is)has always existed. I think you need glasses. God is not Brahmin even the Hindus themselves list them as seperate. I can go on with the examples_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 if Jesus is apart of Brahmin then why does he pray TO GOD THE FATHER as if he was not part of a greater entity? That doesn't sound like Brahmin to me that sounds more like a clear distinct seperatness with a relationship. THATS ANTIBRAHMIN cuz Brahmin is all gods are extensions of Brahmin. Jesus praying to the father doesn't sound like an extension. So its not the same thing if want to contend this I can go on with the examples but your just going to look stupid, and you just GAVE_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 more proof that your dogmatic. I just read the whole chapter he is not talking about being one as in what the Hindus teach. He is talking about one Body which isn't a mesh of all things a body has things called a Heart, a brain and Bones things that operate seperately but apart of the whole body. Ever heard of the body of Christ if you actually followed the Bible you would know Jesus taught it. Obviously you didn't and you just gave proof to that fact.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 no where did jesus say becoming one was about the body. Clearly it is about the spirit..just like in other religions.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 OH YES IT DOES cuz if it didn't then paul in 1 Corinthians 12:12- to 14 wouldn't have elaborated more on it. SO YES HE was and once more sense 1 Corinthians is the continuation of Jesus's ministry through the diciples then the existance of this scripture proves thats what he meant END OF CONVERSATION. You know what I think I think you will reject any form of proof anybody presents cuz your a coward. I even have proof you refuse to look it up yourself. If you want to challenge me_
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 then stop being such a coward and look it up. Before you make a reply before warned if the next comment is excuse why you don't want to look it up I DONT CARE IF YOU SAY ITS A RANT I am not going to read it. If your going to challenge me then look it up yourself and see the truth for yourself.
bailong329 1 week ago
@bailong329 what do you have to lose besides your lame conspiracy theories that no real academic reads or pays any attention to anyway.
bailong329 1 week ago