I hear some similarities between "Frances Limon" and "La Belle Dame Sans Regrets" by Sting. And, actually, also with the jam track on your website. I'm a beginner, without sufficiant knowledge to understand why they seem similar. Do these 3 have something in common or am I off?
HERE IS HOW FUCKING STUPID WALT DISNEY WAS AND THE AMERICAN LEGAL PROFESSION, IT'S CONSTITUTION AND IT'S PEOPLE
DONALD IS NOT A DUCK
A DUCK IS A FEMALE
DONALD IS A MALE DUCK
A MALE DUCK IS CALLED A DRAKE
HENCE HE WOULD NEED TO BE CALLED A DRAKE
DONALD DRAKE
NOW THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED WHAT A DRAKE IS AND WHAT A DUCK IS BY LOOKING AT THEIR DICK OR PUSSY WE CAN THEN GO ON TO ANALYSING A CRIME OR A CIVIL TORT WHICH IS FRENCH FOR SHIT.
Joe started writing If I Could Fly 7 years prior to it been recorded....so he probably had the melody written before the Los Enanitos recorded their song.
That melody from Limon sounds like Still got the blues for you. lol. Gotta remeber music fits in these mathematical boxes stuff is gonna sound the same sometimes.
So all the Satriani fans (at least from what can tell from what I've skimmed in these comments) are talking about how Coldplay sucks because they're just a popular band with that one popular tune, as opposed to Joe Satriani who has..... how many songs that are really famous? That's right! Zero. Meanwhile, Coldplay has 6 more Grammy nominations, and 7 more wins (Satch doesn't have any of those either). So really what I'm hearing is, "Coldplay is popular. They must suck." Definition of hipster.
@thedoctor12123 And also if you call a platinum album, several gold albums, and over 10 million sold worldwide "not famous", well, your opinion isnt worth much.
@thedoctor12123 Coldplay don't suck because they're popular. However, as a musician I would definitely give more respect to a self-made axe man, Satriani, rather than a bunchy of whiny Euro hipsters, who rip off melodies for breakfast; i.e Coldplay. They won a grammy for a song they stole lol. Plus, grammys and hit singles don't define talent. They radio only plays what the gen. pop wants to hear; that is, catchy tunes.
@jarredsutherland Did I say Coldplay is terrible? Really? I missed the part where I said anything even closely related to that.
However, I did say that "Coldplay DOES NOT suck just because they're popular". (In reply to the comment above mine). I don't think they're terrible at all. I said I give more respect to Satriani.
I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to have an unbiased, neutral opinion on a comment board without a troll like you putting words in my mouth. Just let it be, troll.
@SuperHarvestMan Yeah I just noticed half of my comments are all jacked up. Please ignore them, because I have either screwed them all up or YouTube misdirected the comments. Anyways, probably my fault, wasn't taking to you in the first place.
'Vida La Vida' sounds transcribed with words thrown in. 'If I Could Fly' sounds like it's possibly inspired by 'Frances Limon'.
Unless Joe Satriani has no friends or family, he shops for gifts. Maybe he bought a little something for a friend or family member in an import shop. Those stores play a lot of world music. Then maybe he forgot hearing the song. Little bits maybe stuck in his head but nothing like an intentional or direct copy.
I'm a very proud argentinian, but seriously, how the hell an american would steal to an argentinian musician?? the most of them don't know we even exist! look most of american dudes calling "mexican" to every human been that speaks an hispanic language!
@puguese y por que no habrian de plagiar tambien? los que quizas no saben que existimos son mas bien las personas comunes, lo que tienen un poco de educacion (ejemplo: artistas) si saben del resto del continente (por lo menos)
Im sorry but are you deaf? If you just looked beyond all the technical aspects for just 1 second you would hear that they sound almost exactly the same. Satriani really has no right to say anything to Coldplay when he clearly cant practice what he preaches.
I totally agreed with you on your first video with coldplay copying Satriani, but here man...what are you talking about?? Ok, I agree that music theory might tell you differently...but come on!! It sounds almost exactly the same!!!! I hope it is not the fact that Enanitos is a Latin band...that would be so wrong. Satriani should share part of his compensation with them it is obvious he got the inspiration from them.
i dont understand this at all..... look at all the pop songs that use the same four chords.. look up "axis of awesomenes 4 chord songs" they play like 20 songs useing the same 4 chords.. you dont see any sueing going on there...... i just really don't get this... how about we all just not play music anymore because mozart already played every melody and chord progression possible in his fuges
I have to agree with Nadine375 -with no disrespect at all, it seems like you are sitting on both sides of the fence. In this video you said that the Satriani line has somewhat of a pushing groove (something like that....you get my point), which the Coldplay doesnt. If anything, the vocal line in coldplay is more similar to Frances Limon. I still think its all silly only because I cant picture the guys in coldplay saying DUDE lets use that guitar line for a vocal melody. and im not even a fan
If everyone freaked out about people copying chord changes then every singe hit pop artist would be suing every single other hit pop artist. (Just play a Cmaj, Gmaj, Amin, and Fmaj. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about)
@cheloba1 -yes it seems. He must be fair when doing analysis like this because i can sense the bias he has for Joe. Frances Limon is very much close to Joe's than coldplay if you'll listen closely. And I am a Satriani fan. I don't even like coldplay that much in the first place. So I guess my point of view on this is fair.
"OMG coldplay ripped off joe satriani! Coldplay fans are stupid!"
Here's me...
"Real cool. Satchel can rip off a bunch of mexicans and get away with it, but god forbid you rip off satriani."
Joe's song sounds note for note almost exactly like enanitos verde's Frances Limon. I used to like Joe, until I found out how much of a bitch he is. Here comes the fanboy attacks!
@alexkills well ok if the songs sound the same to you but the theoretical part that I told you in my last comment is the proof that satch wasn't trying to rip them of or anything, it's just that the melody and the harmony that is made by both of them wakes up the same feeling or emotions in you...that doesn't mean that the songs are ripped of.
@jimmyleppard6 You're right. I do hear the minute differences. I agree that coldplay sucks ass. and I guess there's a point we can all get along at. Listen to kraftwerk's computerliebe and coldplay's talk. Now that's blatant.
@alexkills well if you knew anything about music you could see that it isn't ripped off, he says right in the video that he transposed it to the same key, different key=different song
@MarcusFenixtheMan Not quite. If I were to copy someone while trying to get away with it, the key is the first thing I'd change. It's equated by purposefully getting a few random problems wrong on a math test to cover up the fact that you've cheated.
@cheloba1 you are a dumbass, think about the difference in the sequence of events here, you have someone who takes a song and intentionally changes it not intending to release it as they're own work, in satrianis example you have someone who writes a song in a key and then later finds a similar song in a different key, your example does not apply to this video
@im8teennow... Why don't YOU get your facts straight! It was NOT dismissed. They settled out of court, (and DaytonaZ was indeed CORRECT in that Coldplay paid Satriani a settlement). Also, Satriani did give the money to a Children's Charity. This is all well documented online. But, given the limited intelligence of a Coldplay fan, it isn't any doubt you are oblivious to it. So, perhaps go get YOUR facts straight before you comment on what you obviously have no clue on.
@im8teennow I just Googled it & it's all laid out on the California District Court web-log. The case was NOT dropped. It was settled out of court. I'd trust the actual court logs above some bassist & drum tech. Billboard has an article mentioning Satriani donating the settlement. Problem with you ColdGay fans is you like these CRAP bands this week, then next week there's some other junk you're in love with. Satriani is NOT a plagiarist & his fans are fans for life because he's a REAL musician
@funtochill431 Exactly what compromises a "REAL musician?" Now, don't get me wrong, I like Joe Satriani. He's an absolutely superb guitarist. But I also like *a little* Coldplay, I think they've tried to develop their own minorly unique sound over the past few years. The music isn't bad, albeit simple.
What I don't get with people like you is that you sit on your high horse and disparage popular music when not ALL of it is bad. About half the reason you like Satch is b/c he isn't "mainstream"
@funtochill431 So, what your saying is, that "ColdGay" fans (by the way, nice way to discredit yourself by insulting the band and their fans with a childish re-name) don't deserve the right to choose what they consider music. Is that correct? We should always go by your opinion and fall in line with what you enjoy.
if you think about it, its sounds a bit like that song its a beaufitul day, i dont know if thats the name of the song and i dont know the artist but the lyrics are like
Same damn thing! Who cares. He probably heard it one day and then forgot about it. Doesn't matter anyway: It's Joe Satriani: He can do whatever he wants!
Did you hear the first version of Technical difficulties from Racer X, Paul Gilbert composed, on the solo chord progresion the same chord progression shared in pink floyd's confotably numb. He heard it, and he changed the song. I he hadn't heard that, now Technical difficulties would be a copy, but more evident that all this. I think Joe didn't copy Enanitos verdes, and think nearly the same from Coldplay, but I have doubts on this case
Felipe Staiti Tienen muchas influencias de Steve Vai, que a su vez tiene toda la escuela de Joe Satriani. Es indudable que esto pueda pasar, pero lo de Coldplay fue un descaro, poque ni la escala cambiaron, simplemente es una copia fiel. mal mal por los abogados que fallaron a favor de la banda británica.
I really like your videos. It kind of shows that music can sound the same without ill intention. Or one tiny change can cause a lawsuit to be thrown out of court. I like how you go through everything bit by bit.
he said he transposed songs in the same key,joe has always been my favorite and believe that he would never knowingly steal a song does not have to.that said the songs share a great similarity both are cool.years ago way before this cold play thing I heard steve vai say he had called his manager and said I have this great tune i keep hearing in my head once the manager heard it he commented its not yours it belongs to so and so Steve had subconsciously picked up in passing this catchy tune.
I don't know dude, maybe theory isn't everything cause those melodies "sound" very close. If could play both of those in the same song and no one would go "gee, I'm suddenly listening to a different song" They would just think the guy is playing around with the melody...a little
r u kidding?it's absolutely the same!!even though i admire SATCH and his musical talent this was way too heavy!!!!he blamed "COLDPLAY" for stealing his piece!!!!i wonder if he would do that if it hasn"t been a success!but worst of he was the 1st one who stole it!!!
I am sorry...you are nit picking. Play 2:12 back to back with 3:12 and you can hear it's the same song with a variance at the middle and end. SOLD--- a ripoff to the nth degree.
actually, I was thinking that there was something happening here, but now that you pinned the two points so you can hear them close together, I kind of agree with the video guy - the songs are different. There is a similarity but nothing more different than Lord of the Rings theme vs Sibelius, or GW Nightfall theme and nightwish. It is more similar feel than an exact match that makes you think it is a rip off.
Well just because its not in theory it doesn't mean its not ripped off, I can take what Enanitos Verdes did and play it totally different, so what all of a sudden I'm not ripping them off?
it's a totally different chord progression, and as he's shown above, the melodies are different. You can't copywright a 3 not lick. The Coldplay song is different, it is WAY more similarities. Coldplay probably did rip of satriani, but satriani didn't rip off Enanitos Verdes
yeah ppl should really do the music theory 1st b4 commenting in the favor of cold play, i mean Satriani is the best and the most experienced 1 there is, he has given surprisingly amazing original tunes for past like 30 years, cold play dont even stand any ground in front of him and lets see if those posers can make it till 2010 ...
I think it's funny how Satriani ripped off Limon and Coldplay ripped off Satriani. So it's like we've be listening to the same song for like generations.
exactly its very different if people are gonna complain about having 2 songs being in the same key they deserve to quit music if not they deserve death there not even in the same key some guy just posted a video that had if i could fly a half step higher so SUCK IT. JOE is one of the most CREATIVE musicians
Everyone should look at things closely. If he is comparing basically four songs by Satriani the Argentenian band, Cat Stevens and Coldplay then obviously the melody and everything are similar. Why is everyone making a big deal when maybe this is just a popular melody and nobody is copying nobody. It is simply the fact that they have the same sound. Then again so many songs do. Dont shut down any of these bands just notice that they are all similar. Relax please
Nice work Andrew. my only comment would be in reference to your other youtube concerning Coldplay and JS. Shouldn't the F minor chord be labeled as a lowercase I instead of a roman numeral I due to the fact it is a minor chord? Thanks.
"Shouldn't the F minor chord be labeled as a lowercase I instead of a roman numeral I due to the fact it is a minor chord? Thanks. "
It is up to the writer, if you make it clear that you are in a minor key, then you don't have to make it lowercase, that is only done to make it easier, but it is not required when playing in a minor tonality.
Joe Satch will be remembered for many many years via simply great works of art and professional approach to music and also creating so many more guitar players. "Cold Play" however, will be gone very shortly, and they will never return and will be completely forgotten soon after, as they brought "nothing" to the music world at all - nothing to the future of music, as their own stuff and their stolen music is seriously boring and lame. Most boring band alongside oasis, fat and satisfied and gone.
VERY well put. I just watched one of Wasson's, "GuitarBlogUpdate," video blog's where he calls this & Lady GaGa, and all the rest pop crap, "Disposable Music." He hits it bang-on there.
That is all this crappy music is - simply Disposable!
Well, the point is that Satch is truely a guitar genius, at less in his first cds, and Enanitos verdes is one of the big rock bands in Latin America, Coldplay is just good
Let's see. Didn't they have this same argument with Delgo and Avatar? And did anyone give a shit about it? No, because Delgo sucked, and hopefully avatar will be better. If Joe sucked, there'd be no qualm, but due to his talent and following, it is. Coincidences happen, but in the music world, that apparently doesn't apply despite the impossible possibilities. I mean, either way Joe's making money because of all the attention. Heck, I've never heard of him until the controversy.
its part of his Roland Guitar Synth, the pick-up controller you will note that there is a thin black thing between the bridge and the bridge pick-up that is the hexaphonic synth pick-up either a GK-2/3. I have a Roland guitar synth,mine is a GR20 his could be that or a GR33 or VG99 BTW they are awesome
As far as I feel as musician: Accept it, Joe Satriani we can trust as a musician, he's obviously a master at what he does and the song came first. Coldplay, enough said. Not quite masters of...anything. Except for choosing their battles poorly against a strong army of Satriani fans. Did you watch the other video he did based on it? Its not "who's he a fan of", he proved it with plain and simple music theory.
Even in the middle ages artists were striving to make money off their art... Art was the main source of income for some towns from the socially elite...
Churches commissions artists all the time, and provided food, shelter, and money.
I didn't say artists always made money, I said they always wanted to make money off their art.
Since when is trying to make money off your talentsconsidered greedy anyway?
i love how people call musicians "greedy". i wont say im innocent of downloading music, but i will also say look at it from the other side of the fence, and dont even lie and say you would be like "i wouldnt care".... lol
These are the same thieving assholes that have no talent of their own, a total disregard for an artists work, and feel they have the right to steal other peoples ideas.
Thank God the decency of the majority has provided a way to outlaw such a blatant disregard for basic ethical behavior.
yo Pienso que los enanitos verdes crearon la cancion y Jatriani robo la cancion y despues chris martin le robo a satriani jajajaja, peor aguante Lationoamerica
The thing people don't realize is that Satriani has worked on this song for nearly 10 years before it came out. It's basically been around since 1995.
Jrbrain...disagree....dont think Satch is out for extra cash. He said he head this tune and was shocked....he created If i could fly....and wrote it for his wife...but mainly he created this beautiful piece of music, and then he hears someone copy it, add lyrics,,,so he has a right to sue based on the principle of the matter. He created the tune, so it is legally copyrighted, and if someone copies your music and makes money off your original idea, then royalties are due up front with permission
It seems like people are sort of looking for the similarities here. There are some, but there are similarities b/t millions of songs. There are only 12 notes in the scale and a finite amount of ways to combine them so of course you'll get similarities b/t songs.
wow, this guy is somewhat biased, they all sound BARELY the same, but he almost immediately shoots down the Argentinian band as the original piece. What happened if they all just liked the same rhythm and decided to use it in their song? Is there really something that bad about it? Also, i would think they might take it as a complement to see that part of their work (if it really is their work) is used in another bands song.
i think that originality in your songs is escential, if you claim you are the composer then, the music must came from your brain, not take someone´idea.
if you want to honor some piece you really loved then do it, but not claim its an original said its an "arrangement" or a cover, etc... :) mi opinion
This Guy is a master; he's Didn't shoot anybody; If Coldplay like IF i Could fly they can admit it and they can write in their album that Their song is inspired from Satriani. Remember that Viva la Vida was an hot single for many weeks
There's nothing moral about an artists work being stolen and some other yahoo cashing in on your idea either. That's why there are copyright infringement laws.
I doesn't matter if Coldplay stole the melody, or accidentally wrote the same melody. The one who has the copyright 1st is the winner, and needs to be paid.
Joe is clearly within his moral and legal rights to sue someone who is making bank on a melody he has copyrighten.
The wheel was invented by many different people in many places , you are sure that no one played this before Satriani ??? Maybe some aborigines played this tune many years ago or some kid in his garage ? It's all about the money...
Whoever ownes the copyright 1st is the rightful owner of the piece... copyrights are good for 50 to 100 years of the artists death, then it becomes public domain...
If an aborigine wrote the song, then they would have the burdon of proving they owned the copyright or even the idea before the tune in question was copyrighten...
"It's all about the money."
All music, movies, TV, writing, paintings, and any other copyrighten intellectual property is about the money, so what's your point?
Point? Anything created by humans belong to worldwide society because every piece of art is a result of it's own influence... if somebody hadn't invented the guitar Satriani wouldn't play anything today. Nowadays people are selfish and want to have patents, copyrights etc.
Sorry for my mistakes, its hard to write what is on your mind in foreign language.
"Anything created by humans belong to worldwide society because...blah blah blah... I want to be free to steal ideas, and plagiarize because I have no imagination."
That's not even close to being true, and thank God your opinion is wildly unpopular...
Hi Andrew,
I hear some similarities between "Frances Limon" and "La Belle Dame Sans Regrets" by Sting. And, actually, also with the jam track on your website. I'm a beginner, without sufficiant knowledge to understand why they seem similar. Do these 3 have something in common or am I off?
Multipl1cite 1 month ago
-.- These songs sound nothing alike!!
TalkPwnTV 4 months ago
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LOOK AT IT THIS WAY
COLDPLAY STEAL YOUR HOUSE AND ALL YOUR BELONGINGS
THEY ARE WORTH 2 MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE
IF YOU ALLEGE THEY HAVE STOLEN FROM YOU
THE POLICE ARE INVOLVED
PLEASE TELL ME THEN HOW A CABAL OF LAWYERS HAVE DECIDED THIS WITHOUT AN ARREST.
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY SATRIANI THROWS THAT MONEY AWAY TO A CHARITY IF HE REALLY BELIEVES THEY STOLE HIS TUNE.
IF YOU STEAL MY TUNE AND YOU EARN LOTS OF DOUGH I GET THE POLICE NOT A LAWYER
AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS BECAUSE AMERICA IS CORRUPT
mrcarpetride 4 months ago
@mrcarpetride Coldplay are based in UK.....
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A NOTE ON DONALD DUCK
HERE IS HOW FUCKING STUPID WALT DISNEY WAS AND THE AMERICAN LEGAL PROFESSION, IT'S CONSTITUTION AND IT'S PEOPLE
DONALD IS NOT A DUCK
A DUCK IS A FEMALE
DONALD IS A MALE DUCK
A MALE DUCK IS CALLED A DRAKE
HENCE HE WOULD NEED TO BE CALLED A DRAKE
DONALD DRAKE
NOW THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED WHAT A DRAKE IS AND WHAT A DUCK IS BY LOOKING AT THEIR DICK OR PUSSY WE CAN THEN GO ON TO ANALYSING A CRIME OR A CIVIL TORT WHICH IS FRENCH FOR SHIT.
JUDGE BOB HAS WRITTEN
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continued
WERE COLDPLAY GUILTY THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN INDICTED FOR THEFT
THE WHOLE SHIT OF CIVIL LITIGATION IS A FRAUD
AND A THEFT AND A GOVERNMENT TAX SWINDLE AND A GOVERNMENT WAY OF CHARGING FOR USING THE COURTS.
LAWYERS LIKE ME KNOW THIS
OH I AM A LAWYER ALL RIGHT WITHOUT A QUALIFICATION
THE BEST SORT
AS THE ONES PRACTISING KNOW THAT THEY BRING A FALSE CHARGE AGAINST COLDPLAY AND THE JUDGE ABETS THAT THEFT AGAINST COLDPLAY
BUT HAVE YOU YANKS INDICTED THE JUDGES YET ?
NO
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ERRATUM
SHOULD READ WITHOUT PICASSO'S SAY.
OR THE SAY OF PICASSO'S FAMILY WHO HOLD HIS COPYRIGHT FOR HIS DESIGNS.
IT IS IN STEALING THE DESIGN BY COPYING IT AND SELLING IT THAT YOU ARE CRIMINALISED AS A THIEF AND RIGHTLY SO.
COLDPLAY MADE NO EXACT COPY OF SATRIANI'S SHIT AND SO COMMITTED NO CRIME
THEIR SONG IS DIFFERENT
SATRIANI'S PIECE ACTUALLY STARTS IN G AND GOES TO A.
BUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COURTS IS THAT THEY ALL GET PAID TO EXCULPATE COLDPLAY.
WERE COLDPLAY GUILTY THEY
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FURTHER NOTES ON THE LAW OF PROPERTY AND THE LAW OF ASSHOLES
WHY HAS THE COURT KEPT IT'S HOLDING SECRET ?
THE HOLDING IS THE RATIONALE FOR THE JUDGMENT.
THEY HAVE KEPT IT SECRET BECAUSE IF YOU READ IT YOU WOULD LAUGH YOUR DICK OFF AT WHAT THE JUDGE OR JUDGES HAVE SHIT TOGETHER AS REASONING.
I REPEAT
THEY HAVE SHIT TOGETHER A REASONING
THERE IS NO CIVIL JURISDICTION OF DAMAGES OVER PURPORTED COPIES.
YOU ARE BUSTED IF YOU PRINT OFF COPIES OF PICASSO AND SELL THEM WITH PICASSO'S SAY.
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PART 3 ON THE LAW OF ASSHOLES FOR ASSHOLES MADE BY ASSHOLES
A. AMERICA WAS ALL INDIAN LAND
B. THE WHITE MAN STOLE IT WITH GUNS.
C. THEN THEY ASSERTED LAND RIGHTS FOR THEMSELVES AND NOTHING FOR THE RED INDIANS.
D. ALSO KNOWN AS ETHNIC CLEANSING NOWADAYS FOR WHICH YOU ARE TRIED FOR MURDER AT THE HAGUE.
BUT BACK TO SATRIANI AND HIS THEFT OF COLDPLAY'S MONEY.
THE COLDPLAY SONG USES CELLO AND ALL OTHER KINDS OF THINGS AND IS NOT NOTE-FOR-NOTE THE SAME AS SATRIANI
NO CASE
DAMAGES TO COLDPLAY
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THE LAW OF PROPERTY AND THE LAW OF ASSHOLES
A. SATRIANI IS OR HIS LAWYER ASSHOLES ARE SAYING THAT COLDPLAY COPIED HIS TUNE.
B. COLDPLAY DID NOTHING OF THE SORT.
C. FOR IT TO BE COPIED IT WOULD NEED THE SAME GUITARS, DRUMS AND BASS AND WOULD NEED TO BE EXACTLY LIKE SATRIANI AND HIS BAND'S EFFORT.
HENCE AS THERE WAS NO COPY THERE IS NO CASE
AND IT IS THE SAME WITH ALL THIS SHIT IN THE COURTS
THE JUDGES KNOW IT
THE LAWYERS KNOW IT
THEY EARN FROM IT
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ALL RIGHT ASS HOLES THIS IS HOW IT REALLY IS.
A - FOR A COURT TO DECIDE ANYTHING THERE HAS TO BE A CRIME.
B. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO STEAL MONEY FROM EACH OTHER THEN IT IS CALLED THEFT.
C. SATRIANI'S LAWYERS ARE TRYING TO STEAL MONEY FROM COLDPLAY'S LAWYERS.
D. COPYRIGHT - COPYRIGHT IS A SOMUCHSHIT WORD OR A MISNOMER. IF YOU COPY SOMETHING THEN YOU COPY IT.
E. TO COPY SOMETHING THEN YOU COPY IT DURRR. YOU KNOW IF YOU GET DONALD DUCK ON PAPER THEN YOU HAVE TO COPY IT WITH A PHOTOCOPIER.
mrcarpetride 4 months ago
Watch his coldplay/satch comparison...this comparison is just as similar as the other one. this dude is so biased.
samiam3018 4 months ago
We can all agree that Justin Beiber is a successful musician. But that doesn''t make him any good.
TheMonkeysGoOoh 4 months ago
remember people the most successful musicians steal riffs from others...BUT you have to do it...wisely..... :)
metachozoite 6 months ago
it's the same fuckin' shit bro hahahah
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Silvia777 7 months ago
Joe started writing If I Could Fly 7 years prior to it been recorded....so he probably had the melody written before the Los Enanitos recorded their song.
campion95 7 months ago
i don't like it when you smile and say "children"
littletingoddess96 7 months ago
Satriani's music is so generic. This shows.
amjan 7 months ago
he is obviously a satriani fan
ZxprosserxZ 7 months ago 9
@ZxprosserxZ what guitarist isnt a satriani fan
alexskolnick13 2 months ago in playlist Coldplay Vs. Satriani
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Probably because he's an expert musician. Professional musicians can easily see the greatness of Satriani.
iAMcooooooool 4 weeks ago
That melody from Limon sounds like Still got the blues for you. lol. Gotta remeber music fits in these mathematical boxes stuff is gonna sound the same sometimes.
BenShotts 8 months ago
So all the Satriani fans (at least from what can tell from what I've skimmed in these comments) are talking about how Coldplay sucks because they're just a popular band with that one popular tune, as opposed to Joe Satriani who has..... how many songs that are really famous? That's right! Zero. Meanwhile, Coldplay has 6 more Grammy nominations, and 7 more wins (Satch doesn't have any of those either). So really what I'm hearing is, "Coldplay is popular. They must suck." Definition of hipster.
thedoctor12123 8 months ago
@thedoctor12123 You don't get it, do you... jeezus, you call Satriani fans hipsters but make a comment like this? /facepalm
Taraalcar 8 months ago
@thedoctor12123 And also if you call a platinum album, several gold albums, and over 10 million sold worldwide "not famous", well, your opinion isnt worth much.
Taraalcar 8 months ago
@thedoctor12123 Coldplay don't suck because they're popular. However, as a musician I would definitely give more respect to a self-made axe man, Satriani, rather than a bunchy of whiny Euro hipsters, who rip off melodies for breakfast; i.e Coldplay. They won a grammy for a song they stole lol. Plus, grammys and hit singles don't define talent. They radio only plays what the gen. pop wants to hear; that is, catchy tunes.
SuperHarvestMan 8 months ago
@SuperHarvestMan Coldplay are well known for stealing other musicians music. Because they are nabs
Ajc52 7 months ago
@Ajc52 So what other music did they steal?
jarredsutherland 5 months ago
@jarredsutherland Ritmo de la noche
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jarredsutherland 5 months ago
@jarredsutherland Did I say Coldplay is terrible? Really? I missed the part where I said anything even closely related to that.
However, I did say that "Coldplay DOES NOT suck just because they're popular". (In reply to the comment above mine). I don't think they're terrible at all. I said I give more respect to Satriani.
I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to have an unbiased, neutral opinion on a comment board without a troll like you putting words in my mouth. Just let it be, troll.
SuperHarvestMan 5 months ago
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jarredsutherland 5 months ago
@SuperHarvestMan Yeah I just noticed half of my comments are all jacked up. Please ignore them, because I have either screwed them all up or YouTube misdirected the comments. Anyways, probably my fault, wasn't taking to you in the first place.
jarredsutherland 5 months ago
It is just a stupid melody. Satriani can improvise songs like If I Could Fly every time he picks the guitar. Enanitos Verdes por otro lado...SUCKS.
Ugallardo 8 months ago
satriani's melodies often remind me another song that I had listened but could not recall
clkvlk 10 months ago
love your channel man!
i saw some vids of you about a year ago and i was dissapointed because you had less videos than you have now, keep making them!
jamirosmajicrocks 1 year ago
Satriani ladron!
benja12 1 year ago
'Vida La Vida' sounds transcribed with words thrown in. 'If I Could Fly' sounds like it's possibly inspired by 'Frances Limon'.
Unless Joe Satriani has no friends or family, he shops for gifts. Maybe he bought a little something for a friend or family member in an import shop. Those stores play a lot of world music. Then maybe he forgot hearing the song. Little bits maybe stuck in his head but nothing like an intentional or direct copy.
NolitaDenise 1 year ago
OMG PEOPLE ARE USING THE SAME CHORD PROGRESSIONS?!?!?
mslacker08 1 year ago 8
satriani is an asshole, someone should kick his ass. I have thrown all his albums away. I don´t like him ant more
perjanan 1 year ago
I did not expect joe is such a s__t...
dalesuhr 1 year ago
If I was the judge old Joe would be paying out some dough.
53moreHP 1 year ago
@53moreHP but your not
videos4uman 1 year ago
@videos4uman Gee, you limey bastard, are almost as smart as a Mexican.
53moreHP 1 year ago
I'm a very proud argentinian, but seriously, how the hell an american would steal to an argentinian musician?? the most of them don't know we even exist! look most of american dudes calling "mexican" to every human been that speaks an hispanic language!
puguese 1 year ago 2
@puguese y por que no habrian de plagiar tambien? los que quizas no saben que existimos son mas bien las personas comunes, lo que tienen un poco de educacion (ejemplo: artistas) si saben del resto del continente (por lo menos)
ningunrecords 1 year ago
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lardofdorkness 1 year ago
@puguese Crap... youre right hahaha
Makesomenoise182 7 months ago
Im sorry but are you deaf? If you just looked beyond all the technical aspects for just 1 second you would hear that they sound almost exactly the same. Satriani really has no right to say anything to Coldplay when he clearly cant practice what he preaches.
FanOfGames95 1 year ago
@FanOfGames95 They don't really sound the same
MilitantBlackGuy1 1 year ago
los enanitos verdes son una banda de putos.. aguante almafuerte y satriani!
larvatrong 1 year ago
I totally agreed with you on your first video with coldplay copying Satriani, but here man...what are you talking about?? Ok, I agree that music theory might tell you differently...but come on!! It sounds almost exactly the same!!!! I hope it is not the fact that Enanitos is a Latin band...that would be so wrong. Satriani should share part of his compensation with them it is obvious he got the inspiration from them.
rljohio 1 year ago
i dont understand this at all..... look at all the pop songs that use the same four chords.. look up "axis of awesomenes 4 chord songs" they play like 20 songs useing the same 4 chords.. you dont see any sueing going on there...... i just really don't get this... how about we all just not play music anymore because mozart already played every melody and chord progression possible in his fuges
binky69 1 year ago
I have to agree with Nadine375 -with no disrespect at all, it seems like you are sitting on both sides of the fence. In this video you said that the Satriani line has somewhat of a pushing groove (something like that....you get my point), which the Coldplay doesnt. If anything, the vocal line in coldplay is more similar to Frances Limon. I still think its all silly only because I cant picture the guys in coldplay saying DUDE lets use that guitar line for a vocal melody. and im not even a fan
dmandrade1978 1 year ago 2
Coldplay's vocal melody is also Linear.Obviously. That makes it different to the Satriani guitar solo.
Nadine375 1 year ago
are you kidding me??????????? satrianis song is a dead copy of frances limon!!! you sure have a lot of "respect" for satriani...
cheloba1 1 year ago
enanitos verdes!!!!
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
If everyone freaked out about people copying chord changes then every singe hit pop artist would be suing every single other hit pop artist. (Just play a Cmaj, Gmaj, Amin, and Fmaj. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about)
ibanezman007 1 year ago
very different
grendelee 1 year ago
You need to analyze this the same you did with satriani vs. coldplay. You analyzed this differently.
kirara5202 1 year ago
@kirara5202 like ia said he has a lot of "respect" for joe! haha
cheloba1 1 year ago
@cheloba1 -yes it seems. He must be fair when doing analysis like this because i can sense the bias he has for Joe. Frances Limon is very much close to Joe's than coldplay if you'll listen closely. And I am a Satriani fan. I don't even like coldplay that much in the first place. So I guess my point of view on this is fair.
kirara5202 1 year ago
How I wish you will analyze this just like what you did on the satriani vs. coldplay issue.
kirara5202 1 year ago
Here's the typical satriani fan...
"OMG coldplay ripped off joe satriani! Coldplay fans are stupid!"
Here's me...
"Real cool. Satchel can rip off a bunch of mexicans and get away with it, but god forbid you rip off satriani."
Joe's song sounds note for note almost exactly like enanitos verde's Frances Limon. I used to like Joe, until I found out how much of a bitch he is. Here comes the fanboy attacks!
FUCK JOE SATRIANI
alexkills 1 year ago 3
@alexkills They are Argentinian, not mexican, please man....
HectorAZambrano 1 year ago
@HectorAZambrano I know now. someone cleared that up for me earlier.
alexkills 1 year ago
@alexkills satch uses scales from different keys and in a higher octave..you are stupid if you think that he ripped them off..
jimmyleppard6 1 year ago
@jimmyleppard6 Still sounds the same to me.
alexkills 1 year ago
@alexkills well ok if the songs sound the same to you but the theoretical part that I told you in my last comment is the proof that satch wasn't trying to rip them of or anything, it's just that the melody and the harmony that is made by both of them wakes up the same feeling or emotions in you...that doesn't mean that the songs are ripped of.
jimmyleppard6 1 year ago
@jimmyleppard6 You're right. I do hear the minute differences. I agree that coldplay sucks ass. and I guess there's a point we can all get along at. Listen to kraftwerk's computerliebe and coldplay's talk. Now that's blatant.
alexkills 1 year ago
@alexkills Coldplay actually had permission from Kraftwerk to copy that song. They both performed the song live together in concert.
Nadine375 1 year ago
@alexkills well if you knew anything about music you could see that it isn't ripped off, he says right in the video that he transposed it to the same key, different key=different song
MarcusFenixtheMan 1 year ago
@MarcusFenixtheMan I know
alexkills 1 year ago
@MarcusFenixtheMan Not quite. If I were to copy someone while trying to get away with it, the key is the first thing I'd change. It's equated by purposefully getting a few random problems wrong on a math test to cover up the fact that you've cheated.
theycallmefibb 1 year ago
@theycallmefibb
that comment would be relevant if satriani was in fact trying to "get away with it"
MarcusFenixtheMan 1 year ago
@MarcusFenixtheMan
hahahaha so everytime a songwritter lowers the tunig of a song to be able to sing it.. is he creating a new song?? you are a dumbass..
cheloba1 1 year ago
@cheloba1 you are a dumbass, think about the difference in the sequence of events here, you have someone who takes a song and intentionally changes it not intending to release it as they're own work, in satrianis example you have someone who writes a song in a key and then later finds a similar song in a different key, your example does not apply to this video
MarcusFenixtheMan 1 year ago
Come on... coldplay have like the same song over and over again!
it is the show business, the videos, the "image"..
musically it is total ZERO, they are not good musicians, nor technically, nor as chords harmony
The only real input is the lyrics, I do like the lyrics
emosms 1 year ago
futonchill431
Bitch please, Satriani is to coldplay what justin bieber is to music, an overhyped nothing with lots of stupid blind fans
oh and now also a crook and a bitchass liar
and as far as liking coldplay? ive liked them for 10 years, so you can fuck off
Coldgay? What middle school-er ever gave you the impression that that insult was in any way witty?
I would expect that sort of vacuous, moronic intellect from a satch fan.
im8teennow 1 year ago
It's closer to Gary Moore's Still Got The Blues, but there's no real similarity
Passthepie 1 year ago
I love this clean tone.
JaymzLea 1 year ago
if ANYTHING satriani STOLE FROM frances limon
they sound MORE alike than viva la vida
fuck satriani
RayWilliamJohansen 1 year ago
@RayWilliamJohansen Sorry but Coldpaly LOST. They had to pay a boat load of money to Satriani and he donated it to charity.
Coldplay steals music and they suck.
DaytonaZ 1 year ago 3
@DaytonaZ no they didnt
it was dismissed
and they dont
get your info right before you assult the internet world with your ignorance
im8teennow 1 year ago
@im8teennow... Why don't YOU get your facts straight! It was NOT dismissed. They settled out of court, (and DaytonaZ was indeed CORRECT in that Coldplay paid Satriani a settlement). Also, Satriani did give the money to a Children's Charity. This is all well documented online. But, given the limited intelligence of a Coldplay fan, it isn't any doubt you are oblivious to it. So, perhaps go get YOUR facts straight before you comment on what you obviously have no clue on.
shredguitarman430 1 year ago 7
@shredguitarman430 HAHAHAHA "Documented on the internet"
well if its written on the interwebz it must be true
I have my facts straight dear, And the bassist and Drum tech have verified ... the case was dropped.
They didnt give Snatchtriani shit, and rightly so
But seeing as how satch is a bastard liar and a plagiarist himself, i could see where his fans like you would follow in suit.
im8teennow 1 year ago
@im8teennow I just Googled it & it's all laid out on the California District Court web-log. The case was NOT dropped. It was settled out of court. I'd trust the actual court logs above some bassist & drum tech. Billboard has an article mentioning Satriani donating the settlement. Problem with you ColdGay fans is you like these CRAP bands this week, then next week there's some other junk you're in love with. Satriani is NOT a plagiarist & his fans are fans for life because he's a REAL musician
funtochill431 1 year ago 6
@funtochill431 Exactly what compromises a "REAL musician?" Now, don't get me wrong, I like Joe Satriani. He's an absolutely superb guitarist. But I also like *a little* Coldplay, I think they've tried to develop their own minorly unique sound over the past few years. The music isn't bad, albeit simple.
What I don't get with people like you is that you sit on your high horse and disparage popular music when not ALL of it is bad. About half the reason you like Satch is b/c he isn't "mainstream"
shirkmaster13 8 months ago
@funtochill431 So, what your saying is, that "ColdGay" fans (by the way, nice way to discredit yourself by insulting the band and their fans with a childish re-name) don't deserve the right to choose what they consider music. Is that correct? We should always go by your opinion and fall in line with what you enjoy.
You really have a lot of growing up to do.
jarredsutherland 5 months ago
@funtochill431 - Couldn't say it better...
ZEGO24x 5 months ago
@RayWilliamJohansen FUCK YOU~
toppoxpocky 1 year ago
if you think about it, its sounds a bit like that song its a beaufitul day, i dont know if thats the name of the song and i dont know the artist but the lyrics are like
hey what a day
like a painting by mony
hey what a day
its a beautiful day
i think the melody is a bit similar, so yea
ibanezxiphos700 1 year ago
@ibanezxiphos700
i found out its called two scoops by michelle harding
ibanezxiphos700 1 year ago
chords please in spanish
i dont speak english
please...
:D
zorroooooolocoooo 1 year ago
@zorroooooolocoooo
no
ibanezxiphos700 1 year ago
@ibanezxiphos700 -.-
zorroooooolocoooo 1 year ago
@zorroooooolocoooo
i know i had the same expession with the similarities!
ibanezxiphos700 1 year ago
Same damn thing! Who cares. He probably heard it one day and then forgot about it. Doesn't matter anyway: It's Joe Satriani: He can do whatever he wants!
rrrrsssssssa2 1 year ago
@everyonewhosayssatrianiisgod
the first stage is denial ^^
taylz94 1 year ago
it doesnt sound similar at all dont make up stuff!!!
gwrAr67 1 year ago
Did you hear the first version of Technical difficulties from Racer X, Paul Gilbert composed, on the solo chord progresion the same chord progression shared in pink floyd's confotably numb. He heard it, and he changed the song. I he hadn't heard that, now Technical difficulties would be a copy, but more evident that all this. I think Joe didn't copy Enanitos verdes, and think nearly the same from Coldplay, but I have doubts on this case
112358miau 1 year ago
its the same thing he did copy enanitos verdes he can screwq him self..oh wait he'll probly copy that 4m some one..
asesdesonoramike 1 year ago
he is a guitarist.
he will always side the guitarist.
jhwj9617 1 year ago
@jhwj9617 He knows music theory. He will always side with the music theory.
btreweek 1 year ago 2
@jhwj9617 the guy in the argintinian band clearly isn't a guitarist then...?
staticclean 1 year ago
Felipe Staiti Tienen muchas influencias de Steve Vai, que a su vez tiene toda la escuela de Joe Satriani. Es indudable que esto pueda pasar, pero lo de Coldplay fue un descaro, poque ni la escala cambiaron, simplemente es una copia fiel. mal mal por los abogados que fallaron a favor de la banda británica.
santiagolox 1 year ago
The Satriani melody is almost similiar - he only used lots of blue-notes. Satriani was at least "inspired" by the argentinians.
azche24ify 1 year ago
I really like your videos. It kind of shows that music can sound the same without ill intention. Or one tiny change can cause a lawsuit to be thrown out of court. I like how you go through everything bit by bit.
bobolob 1 year ago
he said he transposed songs in the same key,joe has always been my favorite and believe that he would never knowingly steal a song does not have to.that said the songs share a great similarity both are cool.years ago way before this cold play thing I heard steve vai say he had called his manager and said I have this great tune i keep hearing in my head once the manager heard it he commented its not yours it belongs to so and so Steve had subconsciously picked up in passing this catchy tune.
jamgarza1 1 year ago
I don't know dude, maybe theory isn't everything cause those melodies "sound" very close. If could play both of those in the same song and no one would go "gee, I'm suddenly listening to a different song" They would just think the guy is playing around with the melody...a little
Xelanderthomas 2 years ago
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joshdakilla 2 years ago
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joshdakilla 2 years ago
r u kidding?it's absolutely the same!!even though i admire SATCH and his musical talent this was way too heavy!!!!he blamed "COLDPLAY" for stealing his piece!!!!i wonder if he would do that if it hasn"t been a success!but worst of he was the 1st one who stole it!!!
zakk1983tdm 2 years ago
I am sorry...you are nit picking. Play 2:12 back to back with 3:12 and you can hear it's the same song with a variance at the middle and end. SOLD--- a ripoff to the nth degree.
GreekGuy9999 2 years ago
I agree. Joe Satriani can go screw himself lol
stromming90 2 years ago
actually, I was thinking that there was something happening here, but now that you pinned the two points so you can hear them close together, I kind of agree with the video guy - the songs are different. There is a similarity but nothing more different than Lord of the Rings theme vs Sibelius, or GW Nightfall theme and nightwish. It is more similar feel than an exact match that makes you think it is a rip off.
guildwarsSNOW 2 years ago 2
But seriously i tihnk all of these songs jsut sounded alike coincidentally
Metallihead22 2 years ago 3
Well.. Coldplay's version is very close to Satriani's :/
LoekkeMage 2 years ago 3
Well just because its not in theory it doesn't mean its not ripped off, I can take what Enanitos Verdes did and play it totally different, so what all of a sudden I'm not ripping them off?
Metallihead22 2 years ago
Wow, some of you guys are Idiots.
Satriani is a down by fifths progression,
it's ivm7-VII-iii maj7sus2-i
it's a totally different chord progression, and as he's shown above, the melodies are different. You can't copywright a 3 not lick. The Coldplay song is different, it is WAY more similarities. Coldplay probably did rip of satriani, but satriani didn't rip off Enanitos Verdes
mtetification 2 years ago 3
@metification
yeah ppl should really do the music theory 1st b4 commenting in the favor of cold play, i mean Satriani is the best and the most experienced 1 there is, he has given surprisingly amazing original tunes for past like 30 years, cold play dont even stand any ground in front of him and lets see if those posers can make it till 2010 ...
letsplaywiththunder 2 years ago
I think it's funny how Satriani ripped off Limon and Coldplay ripped off Satriani. So it's like we've be listening to the same song for like generations.
roszip 2 years ago
thats right u nailed it MYTH
raff2112 2 years ago
exactly its very different if people are gonna complain about having 2 songs being in the same key they deserve to quit music if not they deserve death there not even in the same key some guy just posted a video that had if i could fly a half step higher so SUCK IT. JOE is one of the most CREATIVE musicians
raff2112 2 years ago
nice, you've got the VG-99 that part of my dream gear, how do you like it
guitarsbunch347 2 years ago
Another excellent video.
crispen1151 2 years ago
Enanitos Verdes did it first!
Enanitos verdes should put in Jail Satriani!
xD
hahahahahah
just Kidding
But Satriani, did copy them!
VIVAN LOS ENANITOS VERDES! :D
ENANITOS VERDES FOR EVER! :D
tatibitch 2 years ago
They copied Satriani
SocalDNM 2 years ago
This guy might be some sort of expert, but him saying the two songs (Satriani's and the Argentine band's one) is just fucking bullshit.
The similarities are unmissable.
eezysqueezy 2 years ago
Everyone should look at things closely. If he is comparing basically four songs by Satriani the Argentenian band, Cat Stevens and Coldplay then obviously the melody and everything are similar. Why is everyone making a big deal when maybe this is just a popular melody and nobody is copying nobody. It is simply the fact that they have the same sound. Then again so many songs do. Dont shut down any of these bands just notice that they are all similar. Relax please
arghomez 2 years ago
Wow. Rude, wanky-metal, guitar fans. Who knew?
Nice work Andrew. my only comment would be in reference to your other youtube concerning Coldplay and JS. Shouldn't the F minor chord be labeled as a lowercase I instead of a roman numeral I due to the fact it is a minor chord? Thanks.
Nuggy2009 2 years ago
"Shouldn't the F minor chord be labeled as a lowercase I instead of a roman numeral I due to the fact it is a minor chord? Thanks. "
It is up to the writer, if you make it clear that you are in a minor key, then you don't have to make it lowercase, that is only done to make it easier, but it is not required when playing in a minor tonality.
EstevanMusic 2 years ago
Joe Satch will be remembered for many many years via simply great works of art and professional approach to music and also creating so many more guitar players. "Cold Play" however, will be gone very shortly, and they will never return and will be completely forgotten soon after, as they brought "nothing" to the music world at all - nothing to the future of music, as their own stuff and their stolen music is seriously boring and lame. Most boring band alongside oasis, fat and satisfied and gone.
nznaturopath 2 years ago 3
I could not AGREE more nznaturopath!!
VERY well put. I just watched one of Wasson's, "GuitarBlogUpdate," video blog's where he calls this & Lady GaGa, and all the rest pop crap, "Disposable Music." He hits it bang-on there.
That is all this crappy music is - simply Disposable!
jippie11261 2 years ago 10
Well, the point is that Satch is truely a guitar genius, at less in his first cds, and Enanitos verdes is one of the big rock bands in Latin America, Coldplay is just good
1969knulp 2 years ago
Coldplay was never good in the first place. Thats why they had to copy satch. That didnt sound good either no wonder Satch is suing them!
DaysOfRain9109 2 years ago 2
Let's see. Didn't they have this same argument with Delgo and Avatar? And did anyone give a shit about it? No, because Delgo sucked, and hopefully avatar will be better. If Joe sucked, there'd be no qualm, but due to his talent and following, it is. Coincidences happen, but in the music world, that apparently doesn't apply despite the impossible possibilities. I mean, either way Joe's making money because of all the attention. Heck, I've never heard of him until the controversy.
ziegogoboy 2 years ago
now this im positive,
each song has at least one different chord in the progression from the other
i could find more similar songs
out of proportion
abcbamzz 2 years ago
Whats the big black thing on your guitar? It looks interesting.
futureace73 2 years ago
its part of his Roland Guitar Synth, the pick-up controller you will note that there is a thin black thing between the bridge and the bridge pick-up that is the hexaphonic synth pick-up either a GK-2/3. I have a Roland guitar synth,mine is a GR20 his could be that or a GR33 or VG99 BTW they are awesome
illuminOz 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
this guy has a hard on for satriani and obviously doesnt like coldplay he is so biased.
eddy1586 2 years ago
You're a fag.
As far as I feel as musician: Accept it, Joe Satriani we can trust as a musician, he's obviously a master at what he does and the song came first. Coldplay, enough said. Not quite masters of...anything. Except for choosing their battles poorly against a strong army of Satriani fans. Did you watch the other video he did based on it? Its not "who's he a fan of", he proved it with plain and simple music theory.
As far as I feel as a fan: Coldplay sucks DICK!
futureace73 2 years ago 6
dude your guitar is so fucking awesome!!!
pescadomaligno 2 years ago 13
@pescadomaligno it looks like a cyborg
jrcenina85 1 year ago
Even in the middle ages artists were striving to make money off their art... Art was the main source of income for some towns from the socially elite...
Churches commissions artists all the time, and provided food, shelter, and money.
I didn't say artists always made money, I said they always wanted to make money off their art.
Since when is trying to make money off your talentsconsidered greedy anyway?
MySupaFli 2 years ago 2
i love how people call musicians "greedy". i wont say im innocent of downloading music, but i will also say look at it from the other side of the fence, and dont even lie and say you would be like "i wouldnt care".... lol
AvengingBeavers 2 years ago
These are the same thieving assholes that have no talent of their own, a total disregard for an artists work, and feel they have the right to steal other peoples ideas.
Thank God the decency of the majority has provided a way to outlaw such a blatant disregard for basic ethical behavior.
MySupaFli 2 years ago
yo Pienso que los enanitos verdes crearon la cancion y Jatriani robo la cancion y despues chris martin le robo a satriani jajajaja, peor aguante Lationoamerica
elwebon87 2 years ago
The thing people don't realize is that Satriani has worked on this song for nearly 10 years before it came out. It's basically been around since 1995.
chromeboy 2 years ago 2
Jrbrain...disagree....dont think Satch is out for extra cash. He said he head this tune and was shocked....he created If i could fly....and wrote it for his wife...but mainly he created this beautiful piece of music, and then he hears someone copy it, add lyrics,,,so he has a right to sue based on the principle of the matter. He created the tune, so it is legally copyrighted, and if someone copies your music and makes money off your original idea, then royalties are due up front with permission
joesurfer 2 years ago
i think he is out to say "hey thats my work" more for publicity than money.
i think he has a good case.
sniktawleahcim 2 years ago
It seems like people are sort of looking for the similarities here. There are some, but there are similarities b/t millions of songs. There are only 12 notes in the scale and a finite amount of ways to combine them so of course you'll get similarities b/t songs.
halvor311 2 years ago
If anyone on earth thinks they have found a note progression that has never happened before, they don't listen to enough music.
20WT 2 years ago
I agree but unfortunately It is note a simple progression note
Gamereo 2 years ago
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MrSoladam 2 years ago
wow, this guy is somewhat biased, they all sound BARELY the same, but he almost immediately shoots down the Argentinian band as the original piece. What happened if they all just liked the same rhythm and decided to use it in their song? Is there really something that bad about it? Also, i would think they might take it as a complement to see that part of their work (if it really is their work) is used in another bands song.
Thunderfist4 2 years ago
i think that originality in your songs is escential, if you claim you are the composer then, the music must came from your brain, not take someone´idea.
if you want to honor some piece you really loved then do it, but not claim its an original said its an "arrangement" or a cover, etc... :) mi opinion
ignaci0bosch 2 years ago
This Guy is a master; he's Didn't shoot anybody; If Coldplay like IF i Could fly they can admit it and they can write in their album that Their song is inspired from Satriani. Remember that Viva la Vida was an hot single for many weeks
Gamereo 2 years ago
Flying French Lemons Living Life
jpetrucci05 2 years ago
if satriani really did copy frances limon, it would be a really stupid move to sue coldplay... haha so i really doubt satriani did it.
zangetsu602 2 years ago
Why? Satriani wants a slice of Coldplay's pie. He knew he had a chance to cash in because of the similarity. There's nothing moral about this.
JRBain7 2 years ago
There's nothing moral about an artists work being stolen and some other yahoo cashing in on your idea either. That's why there are copyright infringement laws.
I doesn't matter if Coldplay stole the melody, or accidentally wrote the same melody. The one who has the copyright 1st is the winner, and needs to be paid.
Joe is clearly within his moral and legal rights to sue someone who is making bank on a melody he has copyrighten.
ThumpMonkeyFunk 2 years ago
The wheel was invented by many different people in many places , you are sure that no one played this before Satriani ??? Maybe some aborigines played this tune many years ago or some kid in his garage ? It's all about the money...
margdrag 2 years ago
Whoever ownes the copyright 1st is the rightful owner of the piece... copyrights are good for 50 to 100 years of the artists death, then it becomes public domain...
If an aborigine wrote the song, then they would have the burdon of proving they owned the copyright or even the idea before the tune in question was copyrighten...
"It's all about the money."
All music, movies, TV, writing, paintings, and any other copyrighten intellectual property is about the money, so what's your point?
MySupaFli 2 years ago
Point? Anything created by humans belong to worldwide society because every piece of art is a result of it's own influence... if somebody hadn't invented the guitar Satriani wouldn't play anything today. Nowadays people are selfish and want to have patents, copyrights etc.
Sorry for my mistakes, its hard to write what is on your mind in foreign language.
margdrag 2 years ago
"Anything created by humans belong to worldwide society because...blah blah blah... I want to be free to steal ideas, and plagiarize because I have no imagination."
That's not even close to being true, and thank God your opinion is wildly unpopular...
MySupaFli 2 years ago