anyone who believes that nothing went bang and life came from non living meterials is in denial and is willing to do anything to get God out of the picture. the fact is building=builder, painting=painter, and creation demands a creator. God exists and pleading evolution will not get rid of Him repent turn from your sin and put your trust in Jesus Christ to escape from the teriffying wrath to come.
LADIES, listen to what the Bible has to say about women!
"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." Deuteronomy 25:11-12
Yeah, Kirk, the Bible is so much better to women than Charles Darwin was!
@EineKleineAtheist yes i totally agree with you, very good comedians like most of the religious people pretending that there was a God creating the earth and life. hahahahahahah its so funny
Creationists are hilarious. Science has been trumping religion for a few hundred years now and there is no sign it will stop. Creation myths are NOT exempt from reality.
"have you ever been mystified by how apes and humans are so similar"?? Yes ass clown, we share 96% of our DNA, because we share a common ancestor...... get a fuckin education and stop trying to spin reality to keep your shitty lying tv show going.
the jumbo jet is an evolution of the biplane nice example
the biplane was first with wright brothers biplane
then the design was change and improve over time (evolution) until the jumbo jet was made and that will be changed and improved over time ( evolution) to another plane type
What is that common ancestor, that turned into us and the modern apes?
I am sure that nether you or anyone else can prove that there was such a common ancestor. Everyone tries to say that things like soybeans that are immune to frost and all the breeds of dogs are proof of Macro-evolution. There not, frost immune soybeans are still soybeans, pugs are still dogs. This is micro-evolution, it dose not prove that all animals and plants came from a rock that had water filled with chemicals on it.
There is no possible scenario that could give rise to the first living cell coming to life by natural means. Spontaneous generation was proven impossible and it never was or will be possible. Any one who thinks that the apples, oranges, pine trees, cats, dogs, parrots, monkeys, and humans all came from the same cell billions of years ago has been masterly fooled or dose not want there to be a God that they will answer to some day. God is still there even if you deny that he is.
I wonder if these pea-brains would refuse to get the latest flu vaccine, or use a new antibiotic? After all, science has to come up with new meds all the time because the bacteria and viruses develop resistance to the old meds. Meaning.... the organisms... EVOLVED!!!!!!
I'm going to go ahead and state the obvious: we don't know. Good luck to both scientists, pseudo scientists, and persons of faith in your search for answers. I'm going to focus on trying to living a good and decent life according to my best understanding of goodness and decency, learning from my mistakes, forgiving myself and others for mistakes, and go on wondering what happens when we die. I hope it's something cool.
1 Jn 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
See that? "that you may know" You said we dont know, but if you born again you CAN KNOW! God has given me the certainty of heaven by putting His Holy Spirit inside me as it says in Rom 8:16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children. Read the Bible and seek God : )
nickjm007, it wont be something "cool" that awaits you. It will be extremely hot!!! God says that if you follow your own ways it leads to death (hell-spiritual separation from God)
12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.
If god was capable of saying and only said it to those who believed in him fully and completely first, then no-one would ever hear him.
If you look at the evolution of religion, its easy to see that it all branched off from the days when men who wanted to be in charge claimed that they were gods.
Heavenly gods were introduced only when people could no longer believe in earthly gods.
Oh man bornfromabove, that was so clever... you used nickjm007's words, that it'd be cool, and proved him wrong, because Hell is hot, cause of the flames and all. So you took what he said, and turned it around on him... man, you must be some kind of word magician. God you are so smart. I wouldn't have thought of that. But you, you saw that opportunity and just ran with it, you saw the flaw in his argument, and you just tore it open for everyone to see. Man you are good. Kudos, man, kudos.
Well thank you for your kind words. I really didnt try to be a wordsmith or anything like that, I just wanted to make it perfectly clear the truth about hell. I hope I didnt come across smartallicky or anything like it. I want to tell them the truth in love, but also to shock them into reality. Eternity is a long time to be wrong! Have a blessed day : )
Hahaha. They misspelled paleontology. Now THAT's good research. I definitely trust the guys who can't spell.
Jokes aside, though, this video is embarrassing. The misinformation gathered from pseudoscience presented in this video preys on the weak minded; it preys on those that need answers when none are available - when only faith and theories are what we have ...
"Hell's Greatest Secret" is a great video. However, this video is ineffective. It seems to make a mockery out of science instead of addressing the issues directly. Trying to get a monkey on a plane doesn't prove anything, nor does watching an ape slap his head and give someone the raspberry.
....this is why people think us Christians are idiots, cause of people like this that throw science out the window. HEY EVERYONE! MOST OF US ARENT LIKE THIS! MOST OF US UNDERSTAND THAT EVOLUTION IS SCIENCE!
What's really sad and pathetic about this series is the amount of time, money, and energy they put into it. In the Bible we read, "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." Ray and kirk seem to think it's better to run around with a monkey making strangers feel awkward about their belief in evolution.
"can you show a transitional state" I can, you know why BECAUSE I BOTHERED TO FIND OUT! look it up. just beacuse some uni student has such a weak idea of the topic doesnt make it a weak argument, what does make a weak argument is trying to get an orangutan on an airplane and taking it to a resturaunt. and as for the bit about darwin thinking man superior to woman, well i sujest you read your bibles and find out what womans punishment was for eating the apple.
As stupid as this stuff all is, I would so have 100% if they taught creationism in school. Think about it, you could write "god did it" for ever answer on a test!! Free A+ right there!
No, for example, creationists believe speciation happens, so you can explain how new species occur. The only part that a creationist would say "God did it" is maybe at the very beginning of the universe and the creation of life; other than that, it's all about mechanisms too. So again, I could still turn the tables and say, "Evolution did it" because in the grand scheme of things, it is the creative process according to your view.
Theories regarding the beginning of the universe involve the big bang theory and the study of the start of life is abiogenesis, not evolution. Speciation, one species evolving into another, is evolution. Evolution says nothing about how the earth or life began. But that's not what Ray and Kirk are saying they are arguing against speciation and that's where my "god did it" joke came in. So I think we may be saying similar things with regards to evolution.
Actually they are. Pick up an inorganic chemistry book, and you'll read sections on chemical evolution (abiogenesis) and the big bang falls into the category of cosmic evolution. It's a very common misconception that evolution is only talking about biological evolution.
I see your point about Ray and Kirk. In their defense, they are not creationist scientists. But I think they should stick to what they know because I agree that this made them (and Christians) look dumb.
I think this is just semantics. I was talking about biological evolution (i.e Darwin), which is what Ray and Kirk are talking about. The other stuff falls under physics or chemistry. I think the real problem Ray and Kirk have is the idea monkeys and humans shared a common ancestor. You're right, they make Christians look bad.
You can't "prove God wrong," that's not how it works. In science, you don't prove a negative. The reason I'm an atheist is because of the lack of evidence supporting the existance of a god, not because there's proof he doesn't exist. In my book, absence of proof is proof of absence.
Trying to prove the existance of a god is like trying to prove the existance of a flying spaghetti monster. Yeah, it's possible but I'm not going to believe in it without proof.
Go ahead, convince me there's a god. I will easily refute anything you can throw at me.
i have a few questions what are you talking about body and 2nd how if there was no such thing as a flood how did fossils get way up in the mountain and 3rd why is a girl called a woman
Okay, seriously I can't understand half the shit you're saying. Try using punctuation then ask me again or try asking relevant questions that make sense.
Actually, you're obviously stupid so I think I may just stop bothering with you.
I love the airline thing when they ask to take the monkey on the plane! It is hystericle!Shows how stupid evolution is. If primates are truly distance reletives then why do they have to sit in the cargo hold?? Think about it. :)
Not knowing really much about the evolution fairy tale which was made up by a women and black hating, drug addict, Satan worshiping scientist, I've got to applaud the professional and credible argument against evolution by bringing a primate to dinner. It finally sets to rest that silly belief called evolution.
I'm having trouble telling if you are being sarcastic or not. If you are, then that was pretty funny. Isn't it sad that there are so many of these delusionals out there that it's hard to tell.
i read ur book and it makes nosense...i read the bible and it makes total sense to me...did u read ur bible?or did u just assume that ur right?read ur bible b4 you think u know it all...dont just pick parts here and there that u think u can insult...read it entirely..then come back andf well see whos laughing
all insults...but i say good job kirk ..u make way more sense then evolutionist...i was created by god...and u say u were a monkey ...lol...i think i should be laughing at u all....lol lol lol lol...THANK YOU JESUS 4 MAKING SENSE TO ME...
A user "Extantdodo" has videos that debunk these videos in excellent detail.
And if you find it offensive that we come from apes, first of all, get over yourself, you're not that special. What if I told you I was conceived by rape? Would the fact that my father was a terrible person change that fact that it is from him that I originated? The truth hurts, pal. Understand that I don't consider myself an atheist (I can say with confidence that if God exists, than Deism IS the one true religion.)
LOL! Comfort @ 2:22 says "Despite the fact that there is no evidence for the theory of evolution."
What he meant to say is that he denies that there is any evidence. Denial is an ugly thing.
I have never seen so many specious arguments jammed into a video before. Because an orangutan is denied cabin passage on an airliner that proves we didn't share a common ancestor?
Because Darwin had chauvinistic views, evolution is false?
Reasoning like this shows just how stupid fundies are
We are 99.8% genetically related to apes. Whoops. I guess you forgot about that one.
Apes can continue to evolve and maybe one day they will be a species to rival our own in the present day. Recent research has shown numerous species of ape building weapons and actually teaching younger generations of ape to make them and other useful tools. Clearly, they ARE evolving.
Apes can continue to evolve and maybe one day they will be a species to rival our own in the present day. Yeah... I hate the way the zoos fence in gorillas, as if? right, like their going to hurt relatives?
I loved the way they trotted out Darwin's nineteenth-century sense of sexism as if it meant something. When Darwin wrote that in the 1850s, most Christians still considered slavery to be God's will.
Evolution is basically mutating to fit an environment. Sort of like how Kirk and Ray have mutated into misinformed people to offset the numbers of people around them who were paying attention to the whole "theory of evolution" we learned in 3rd grade. Good luck with the preaching thing.
It is absolutely astonishing to see how little these two guys understand about evolution theory. They always make the same mistakes. For example: comparing living to non living things. A plane doesn't reproduce like we do. It hasn't got cells, DNA etc... so it's a horrible and naive analogy which fails utterly.
Soooo..... This video is comparing a biological organism (a man and a monkey) and a machine (two different types of airplanes) and using the comparison of the two as disproof of evolution? It's the logic of a child!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rom 1:20 For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse.
Rom 1:21 Because, knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, neither were thankful. But they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
These guys have no morals. They try to discredit one of the most advanced theories of our time by personally attacking Darwin and labeling him as a racist and sexist. Darwin was one of the greatest scientists of all time. Don't you dare try to smear his name in the name of your delusional beliefs.
QUESTION: Just because we look similar to apes does that mean we evolved from apes?
ANSWER: Actually, Kirk, YES it does. See, there's this thing called DNA and OUR DNA is a 98% MATCH with APE DNA. See that! That's a FACT! We call that little thing SCIENCE. SCIENCE is based on things you can PROVE in repeated experiments.
If these two clowns ever come up to me on the street I'm punching them both in the neck.
ok.... what about the fish thing in evolution that got on land? did it have gills or a nose? if it had a nose it woulda died in water. if it had gills it woulda died on land.
The Judaeo Christian god is "a vindictive blood thirsty ethnic cleansing, misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, finicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious malevolent bully." --Richard Dawkins
do you have evidence that good manners is rational? these stupid christians are calling that ape stupid because it has bad manners. prove that bad manners is irrational. these christians are the stupidest people on earth
Actually I think Ray and Kirk are talking about the idea that God doesn't send people to hell because they don't believe in him, but because they transgressed from the law. So they invent this analogy of a plane to super impose on bible scritures like the last 12 verses of Mark to shut up people who quote:
Its honestly hard to tell who is smarter. Kirk or the orangutan. Whatever Darwins beliefs about women or race is irrelevant when it comes to the theory of evolution. Futhermore, to say there are no transitional fossils is just plain ignorant.
Humans aren't native to every country in the world, either. Humans evolved a long, long time ago, probably somewhere in the Middle East or Africa, and have slowly populated the rest of the world. Apes aren't capable of that kind of extensive travel because of their smaller brains. Why don't you just stop asking erroneous questions and accept the fact that you're never going to convince anyone with your backwards logic?
The different languages have nothing to do with evolution and everything to do with geography. Americans all come from ancestors that came from another country, and many have ancestors that spoke another language, but we still speak English, and have an American accent. It's part of the American culture. Spoken language evolved after humans split from apes, like I already said. It has nothing to do with the fact that we evolved from primitive primates.
I don't understand the question. Language in humans evolved after we had already separated from "monkeys" as you call them (actually apes, a totally different thing). The fact that we have different languages has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. You need to clarify your question before I can answer it.
Are you serious? Monkeys do communicate, just in a different way. That very small difference has allowed us to evolve much larger brains, which has enabled us to create such a complex society and language. My point was not that we are exactly the same as monkeys, but the comparison between a tree and a jet is obviously specious. If you don't know anything about biology or evolution, then dont argue about it.
If you think that tree-jet is about the same as chimpanzee-human, then you are either functionally retarded or you have never seen a chimpanzee interact with its surroundings. The difference in human and chimp DNA is only 1.2%. How can you not look at a chimp and say that we are related? They look like hairy humans! But a tree is a living thing while a jet is a man-made machine. A better comparison would be a pine tree and a spruce tree. Oh wait, they DO share a common ancestor!
To clarify, a Jet would not exist, were it not for the lessons learned on Biplanes, Monoplanes and eventually jet aircraft. The Darwin quotes about women are funny, considering what the bible teaches about women.
What the Bible says about women, you have no real understanding about. If you want to know the truth try looking at the context of what is written, or check out the book Theology of the Body for Beginners, by Christopher West. He does an excellent job explaining what it all truly means.
Yes, Im sure Solomon, the wisest man ever, had a very good reason for having 700 wives and 300 concubines. Maybe the women in Ephesia (Or was it Corinth?) wouldn't shut up. Maybe God doesnt have a Gender, except for when he impregnated a woman with his son (Who is also himself) The Context, of course, is that the bible was written by men, inspired by men.
angel...the bible is no friend of women. When god would order the slaughter of a people, he would tell them to keep the virgins for themselves, such as in Numbers 31. In Deut 22, a rapist must marry his victim. In fact, that chapter is particularly disturbing from verses 13-30. Anyhow, the list goes on and on. It is truly disgusting how the women in the bible are treated.
I am tired of stating this over and over again, buuutt please do not insult my knowledge. Stop quoting out of the old testement Eph 2:14. The Bible is absolutly a friend to women, read up... Eph 5:21-30 is just ONE of many. The new testement, and the word of Jesus is all about love.
angel...nice of you to support your rhetoric by explaining how I am wrong. It is right there in your holy book, if a man rapes a woman, he must marry her. If a woman is raped and is married, she will be stoned to death. Show me where I err specifically do not just whine how I am wrong.
Just wanted to remind you that you can't pick and choose what you want to believe in the bible, for whoever does, will be called least of the kingdom of heaven.
Just wanted to remind you that you can't pick and choose what you want to believe in the bible, for whoever does, will be called least of the kingdom of heaven. That's a problem... it's difficult to argue natural facts with faith...
Sorry Kirk, the Modern Jet did evolve from earlier planes, including the biplane. I sometimes think these videos are made in secret by evolutionists, to show how dumb creationists are. Sadly, these are REAL creationists, and they are lying out of their asses.(or just really stupid)
Yes but a modern Jet did not evolve from a tree and that is what is being claimed by evolutionist.
There was a story my mom read to me about a princes kissing a frog that magically turns into a prince and it was a fairytale, the difference between evolutionist and that fairytale is time.
That is certainly NOT what is claimed by evolution. If you read anything, you would know that. But I expect such a response from a creationist, who symbolically put their fingers in their ears and loudly sing a hymn.
Mankind and frogs and all other life shares ancestory. But Man did not descend from modern frogs, rather amphibians went one evolutionary direction, reptiles and later mammals went another, but this was tens of millions of years ago. Dont take my word for it, look up the DNA evidence.
Evolutionist say things evolved over millions of years so how do things evolve in a symbiotic relationship? Example is coral and coral fish. The fish eat the algae off the coral and without them the coral would be choked off by the algae. My favorite is the Giraffe and the thorn tree (the thorns used on Jesus' head) the pollen is spread on the giraffe's neck from tree to tree. With out relationships species would die, with it they thrive. Millions no way designed...yes.
I was making the analogy that evolutionist say that two different species came from the same ancestor it may have been a bad example on my part, now answer that last question.
It's very very simple: natural selection. Really wonder why you ask questions here, as there are libraries full of information readily available for you. But in short: species that co-operate (even with other species) have a bigger chance of survival. Now answer my questions in the PM I sent you, as you have been awfully quiet there.
"No evidence when it comes to the theory of Evolution..." That's a ridiculous statement. Just because you don't understand, or are not educated on the evidence of a specific subject does not mean there isn't evidence. The entire video is an example of flawed logic. I find this video almost offensive in its dishonest representation of evolution, and evolutionary theory.
To say there is no transitional forms is ridiculous. I find it interesting how they take a complex subject that biologist and zoologist spend their lifetimes learning and discovering and then ask the lay person about transitional forms, the fossil record, etc. That would be like asking the common christian about the Hebrew meanings of words in the bible. You really prove a point.
dmarvin811, hate to disappoint you, but I'm not afraid of death and don't fear hell simply because it doesn't exist. Try something else if you want to convert me, scaring me won't work. Have any other cards up your sleeve?
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anyone who believes that nothing went bang and life came from non living meterials is in denial and is willing to do anything to get God out of the picture. the fact is building=builder, painting=painter, and creation demands a creator. God exists and pleading evolution will not get rid of Him repent turn from your sin and put your trust in Jesus Christ to escape from the teriffying wrath to come.
mamainmancj 2 weeks ago
These two morons are the worst thing to happen to Christianity since the Crusades.
word2yourmogwai 1 month ago
An ape showing its teeth is a sign of aggression, it is not something that means happiness.
ourananastasia 1 month ago
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Kirk, if you think this is bad, you need to read the bible.
carbonatedturd 1 month ago 2
even evolutionists can't deny that the orangutan ate those salads. checkmate.
jefftavolieri 2 months ago 2
"evolution, nature is god" that guy is actually smart. Pantheism is more logical than theism
Spaceman2451 2 months ago
Ray no one has ever claimed that a modern orangutan is a pre historic man. Idiot
Spaceman2451 2 months ago 4
Did the modern commercial jet evolve from the biplane? Uh... yes. Yes it did. This argument is moronic on so many levels.
Davimorte 3 months ago 5
Was a Gaussian blur intentionally applied to this clip, or is the camera from the stone ages? Geez.
charadester 5 months ago
1:15 Ultimate irony
timewaster0 5 months ago
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timewaster0 5 months ago
If you are going to use the common designer argument you have to deny DNA paternity testing.
TheMrgoku1985 5 months ago
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@TheMrgoku1985 Those 2 are terrible people quote mining Gould like that?
This is dishonest!
TheMrgoku1985 3 months ago
love this! way of the master is the way forward!
lowerklass 6 months ago
LADIES, listen to what the Bible has to say about women!
"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." Deuteronomy 25:11-12
Yeah, Kirk, the Bible is so much better to women than Charles Darwin was!
creasonbryan 11 months ago
@creasonbryan LADIES, listen to what the Bible has to say about the treatment of wives:
"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for her." (Ephesians 5:25)
"Husbands, love your wives and do not be bitter towards them." (Colossians 3:19).
SoldierOfChrist110 4 months ago
@EineKleineAtheist yes i totally agree with you, very good comedians like most of the religious people pretending that there was a God creating the earth and life. hahahahahahah its so funny
snookerjam 1 year ago
Which one is going first? Cameron or the ape? Either way, its looking like monkey see, monkey do.
NoNamesLeft0102 1 year ago
oh no the monkey sinned I guess in their minds he's going to hell then.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 1 year ago
Kirk Cameron is proof that humans and chimps have common ancecstors. He is clearly not as evolved as the rest of us.
Crentist45 1 year ago
Creationists are hilarious. Science has been trumping religion for a few hundred years now and there is no sign it will stop. Creation myths are NOT exempt from reality.
SanRafaelSwell 1 year ago 2
"have you ever been mystified by how apes and humans are so similar"?? Yes ass clown, we share 96% of our DNA, because we share a common ancestor...... get a fuckin education and stop trying to spin reality to keep your shitty lying tv show going.
vedder530 1 year ago
LAME!
USmetallist 1 year ago
well if you thin that quote mining and denying evidence is a compelling argument against evolution...
94jmcorrea 1 year ago
Darwin only is a smart man that all
half quoting
miss quotes
distorting quotes
Colepotera 1 year ago
the jumbo jet is an evolution of the biplane nice example
the biplane was first with wright brothers biplane
then the design was change and improve over time (evolution) until the jumbo jet was made and that will be changed and improved over time ( evolution) to another plane type
Colepotera 1 year ago
Holy fuck. There are people that believe this is true. We're all screwed.
fmtftw 2 years ago 2
Cute orang-utan.
Mick116 2 years ago
What is that common ancestor, that turned into us and the modern apes?
I am sure that nether you or anyone else can prove that there was such a common ancestor. Everyone tries to say that things like soybeans that are immune to frost and all the breeds of dogs are proof of Macro-evolution. There not, frost immune soybeans are still soybeans, pugs are still dogs. This is micro-evolution, it dose not prove that all animals and plants came from a rock that had water filled with chemicals on it.
sk871313 2 years ago
There is no possible scenario that could give rise to the first living cell coming to life by natural means. Spontaneous generation was proven impossible and it never was or will be possible. Any one who thinks that the apples, oranges, pine trees, cats, dogs, parrots, monkeys, and humans all came from the same cell billions of years ago has been masterly fooled or dose not want there to be a God that they will answer to some day. God is still there even if you deny that he is.
sk871313 2 years ago
How long did it take for god to create time ?
leavingjupiter 2 years ago
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neuroxik 2 years ago
@leavingjupiter : great one!
neuroxik 2 years ago
can somebody explain to me precisely what point they're trying to show by taking a wild animal out to lunch?
vinnybkfam 2 years ago
this is absolutely disgusting and embarrassing for all of humankind
greatscott18217 2 years ago
I wonder if these pea-brains would refuse to get the latest flu vaccine, or use a new antibiotic? After all, science has to come up with new meds all the time because the bacteria and viruses develop resistance to the old meds. Meaning.... the organisms... EVOLVED!!!!!!
I guess I'm just a "blasphemer" :-P
catstuff32 2 years ago
I'm going to go ahead and state the obvious: we don't know. Good luck to both scientists, pseudo scientists, and persons of faith in your search for answers. I'm going to focus on trying to living a good and decent life according to my best understanding of goodness and decency, learning from my mistakes, forgiving myself and others for mistakes, and go on wondering what happens when we die. I hope it's something cool.
nickjm007 2 years ago
1 Jn 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
See that? "that you may know" You said we dont know, but if you born again you CAN KNOW! God has given me the certainty of heaven by putting His Holy Spirit inside me as it says in Rom 8:16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children. Read the Bible and seek God : )
bornfromabove 2 years ago
nickjm007, it wont be something "cool" that awaits you. It will be extremely hot!!! God says that if you follow your own ways it leads to death (hell-spiritual separation from God)
12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.
bornfromabove 2 years ago
"God says that if you follow your own ways"
No...MAN says that god says it.
Get your facts straight.
If god was capable of saying and only said it to those who believed in him fully and completely first, then no-one would ever hear him.
If you look at the evolution of religion, its easy to see that it all branched off from the days when men who wanted to be in charge claimed that they were gods.
Heavenly gods were introduced only when people could no longer believe in earthly gods.
corthew 2 years ago
Oh man bornfromabove, that was so clever... you used nickjm007's words, that it'd be cool, and proved him wrong, because Hell is hot, cause of the flames and all. So you took what he said, and turned it around on him... man, you must be some kind of word magician. God you are so smart. I wouldn't have thought of that. But you, you saw that opportunity and just ran with it, you saw the flaw in his argument, and you just tore it open for everyone to see. Man you are good. Kudos, man, kudos.
sienkotothemax 2 years ago
Well thank you for your kind words. I really didnt try to be a wordsmith or anything like that, I just wanted to make it perfectly clear the truth about hell. I hope I didnt come across smartallicky or anything like it. I want to tell them the truth in love, but also to shock them into reality. Eternity is a long time to be wrong! Have a blessed day : )
bornfromabove 2 years ago
Hahaha. They misspelled paleontology. Now THAT's good research. I definitely trust the guys who can't spell.
Jokes aside, though, this video is embarrassing. The misinformation gathered from pseudoscience presented in this video preys on the weak minded; it preys on those that need answers when none are available - when only faith and theories are what we have ...
nickjm007 2 years ago
"Hell's Greatest Secret" is a great video. However, this video is ineffective. It seems to make a mockery out of science instead of addressing the issues directly. Trying to get a monkey on a plane doesn't prove anything, nor does watching an ape slap his head and give someone the raspberry.
GlorifiedTruth 2 years ago
They misspelled "paleontology" at :12...
TakashiMoriChan 3 years ago
Evolution---what a joke
USNavyman09 3 years ago
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's like religion; how do we know that? We don't. Evolution and religion are such jokes.
nickjm007 2 years ago
....this is why people think us Christians are idiots, cause of people like this that throw science out the window. HEY EVERYONE! MOST OF US ARENT LIKE THIS! MOST OF US UNDERSTAND THAT EVOLUTION IS SCIENCE!
wright690 3 years ago
humans are primates! look up the definition....it has nothing to do with evolution....bad science
PoliticalStu 3 years ago
They try to get a orangutan on an airline and they have the nerve to say the theory of evolution is unscientfic?
richdvd 3 years ago
Is it not a sin to make prank phone calls?
dancinbear7476 3 years ago
What's really sad and pathetic about this series is the amount of time, money, and energy they put into it. In the Bible we read, "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." Ray and kirk seem to think it's better to run around with a monkey making strangers feel awkward about their belief in evolution.
tomfooleryprod 3 years ago
This video is truly the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. That was the intention right?
ColorsMixToGrey 3 years ago
Holy shit they didn't get anything right.
pienipaha 3 years ago
"can you show a transitional state" I can, you know why BECAUSE I BOTHERED TO FIND OUT! look it up. just beacuse some uni student has such a weak idea of the topic doesnt make it a weak argument, what does make a weak argument is trying to get an orangutan on an airplane and taking it to a resturaunt. and as for the bit about darwin thinking man superior to woman, well i sujest you read your bibles and find out what womans punishment was for eating the apple.
theMadSmashedClam 3 years ago
As stupid as this stuff all is, I would so have 100% if they taught creationism in school. Think about it, you could write "god did it" for ever answer on a test!! Free A+ right there!
quincyraven15 3 years ago
I know you're being sarcastic. But we could take this same logic with evolution and just always answer, "Evolution did it".
jtlbb2 3 years ago
No, because evolution has to have a mechanism and an explanation, god doesn't. He's the beginning and the end (revelation 1:8), right?
quincyraven15 3 years ago
No, for example, creationists believe speciation happens, so you can explain how new species occur. The only part that a creationist would say "God did it" is maybe at the very beginning of the universe and the creation of life; other than that, it's all about mechanisms too. So again, I could still turn the tables and say, "Evolution did it" because in the grand scheme of things, it is the creative process according to your view.
jtlbb2 3 years ago
Theories regarding the beginning of the universe involve the big bang theory and the study of the start of life is abiogenesis, not evolution. Speciation, one species evolving into another, is evolution. Evolution says nothing about how the earth or life began. But that's not what Ray and Kirk are saying they are arguing against speciation and that's where my "god did it" joke came in. So I think we may be saying similar things with regards to evolution.
quincyraven15 3 years ago
Actually they are. Pick up an inorganic chemistry book, and you'll read sections on chemical evolution (abiogenesis) and the big bang falls into the category of cosmic evolution. It's a very common misconception that evolution is only talking about biological evolution.
I see your point about Ray and Kirk. In their defense, they are not creationist scientists. But I think they should stick to what they know because I agree that this made them (and Christians) look dumb.
jtlbb2 3 years ago
I think this is just semantics. I was talking about biological evolution (i.e Darwin), which is what Ray and Kirk are talking about. The other stuff falls under physics or chemistry. I think the real problem Ray and Kirk have is the idea monkeys and humans shared a common ancestor. You're right, they make Christians look bad.
quincyraven15 3 years ago
god makes it snow
wfl18 3 years ago
heres an easy 1 for you if you want an a who was the three men who went into the fire
wfl18 3 years ago
I hate you, Kirk Cameron.
jambalaya54321 3 years ago 2
The sad thing is, they're serious. xD
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
did you know they used to be atheist then they tried to prove god wrong and failed
wfl18 3 years ago
You can't "prove God wrong," that's not how it works. In science, you don't prove a negative. The reason I'm an atheist is because of the lack of evidence supporting the existance of a god, not because there's proof he doesn't exist. In my book, absence of proof is proof of absence.
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
well what kind of evidence do you you need
wfl18 3 years ago
Use anything that can be used as evidence.
Trying to prove the existance of a god is like trying to prove the existance of a flying spaghetti monster. Yeah, it's possible but I'm not going to believe in it without proof.
Go ahead, convince me there's a god. I will easily refute anything you can throw at me.
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
what happens to the body after we die?
wfl18 3 years ago
To the body? I don't see what this has to do with anything, but our bodies decompose. Three seconds of Internet research could have told you that.
So where's that evidence you were supposed to show me?
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
i have a few questions what are you talking about body and 2nd how if there was no such thing as a flood how did fossils get way up in the mountain and 3rd why is a girl called a woman
wfl18 3 years ago
Okay, seriously I can't understand half the shit you're saying. Try using punctuation then ask me again or try asking relevant questions that make sense.
Actually, you're obviously stupid so I think I may just stop bothering with you.
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
did you even try to prove the bible wrong using science
wfl18 3 years ago
I am a real American, Fight for the rights of every man,
I am a real American, fight for what's right, fight for your life!
wmtdv 3 years ago
Are you on drugs?
Just watch these...and learn something:
watch?v=qEgvJ6dqzyo
watch?v=b_5Vstf6OHk
Kaimosae 3 years ago 6
I love the airline thing when they ask to take the monkey on the plane! It is hystericle!Shows how stupid evolution is. If primates are truly distance reletives then why do they have to sit in the cargo hold?? Think about it. :)
fitnessmomof2 3 years ago
One after the other after the other....they have made so many ridiculous points that its just too much to comment on.
I'll just say these guys are mentally deranged
Kaimosae 3 years ago 2
Not knowing really much about the evolution fairy tale which was made up by a women and black hating, drug addict, Satan worshiping scientist, I've got to applaud the professional and credible argument against evolution by bringing a primate to dinner. It finally sets to rest that silly belief called evolution.
kylesd2008 3 years ago
Ditto!
fitnessmomof2 3 years ago
I'm having trouble telling if you are being sarcastic or not. If you are, then that was pretty funny. Isn't it sad that there are so many of these delusionals out there that it's hard to tell.
alumbo 3 years ago
i read ur book and it makes nosense...i read the bible and it makes total sense to me...did u read ur bible?or did u just assume that ur right?read ur bible b4 you think u know it all...dont just pick parts here and there that u think u can insult...read it entirely..then come back andf well see whos laughing
wreckfessa 3 years ago
all insults...but i say good job kirk ..u make way more sense then evolutionist...i was created by god...and u say u were a monkey ...lol...i think i should be laughing at u all....lol lol lol lol...THANK YOU JESUS 4 MAKING SENSE TO ME...
wreckfessa 3 years ago
Can they debate anything but strawmen?
Honestly, the orangutan seemed wiser than them.
Sabazi 3 years ago 3
Should I cry or laugh? This guys are incredible arrogant and ignorant...
A3A3adamsan 3 years ago
A user "Extantdodo" has videos that debunk these videos in excellent detail.
And if you find it offensive that we come from apes, first of all, get over yourself, you're not that special. What if I told you I was conceived by rape? Would the fact that my father was a terrible person change that fact that it is from him that I originated? The truth hurts, pal. Understand that I don't consider myself an atheist (I can say with confidence that if God exists, than Deism IS the one true religion.)
grungefreak10 4 years ago
LOL! Comfort @ 2:22 says "Despite the fact that there is no evidence for the theory of evolution."
What he meant to say is that he denies that there is any evidence. Denial is an ugly thing.
I have never seen so many specious arguments jammed into a video before. Because an orangutan is denied cabin passage on an airliner that proves we didn't share a common ancestor?
Because Darwin had chauvinistic views, evolution is false?
Reasoning like this shows just how stupid fundies are
InTheImageOfDNA 4 years ago
Comedy GOLD!
ekilfoil 4 years ago
We are 99.8% genetically related to apes. Whoops. I guess you forgot about that one.
Apes can continue to evolve and maybe one day they will be a species to rival our own in the present day. Recent research has shown numerous species of ape building weapons and actually teaching younger generations of ape to make them and other useful tools. Clearly, they ARE evolving.
shadowblade9876 4 years ago
Apes can continue to evolve and maybe one day they will be a species to rival our own in the present day. Yeah... I hate the way the zoos fence in gorillas, as if? right, like their going to hurt relatives?
TJae1 4 years ago
Get with the times! You should listen to Way of the Master Radio!
The host, Todd "I have the smarts" Friel explains this so clearly.
"That 99% is only 99% of the 'protein-DNA', so it's a very small amount that we have in common! So who cares!"
See? SEE? DUH!
...seriously though, anything Way of the Master" will make a thinking man :rolleyes: so hard you'll dislodge your eyes from their sockets.
henwli 4 years ago
Comparing man evolving from apes to a biplane evolving into a passenger jet is the worst argument against evolution to date. Absolute bullshit.
And I hate to think what they did to that ape. Probably conditioned it to think that the Banana God really does exist.
shadowblade9876 4 years ago 3
I loved the way they trotted out Darwin's nineteenth-century sense of sexism as if it meant something. When Darwin wrote that in the 1850s, most Christians still considered slavery to be God's will.
quiIl 4 years ago
Evolution is basically mutating to fit an environment. Sort of like how Kirk and Ray have mutated into misinformed people to offset the numbers of people around them who were paying attention to the whole "theory of evolution" we learned in 3rd grade. Good luck with the preaching thing.
telix5000 4 years ago
He had reason, he REASONED that you are a asshole that would not give him the good stuff.
Harpakhrad11 4 years ago
What the hell is him calling an airline suppose to prove?
Harpakhrad11 4 years ago
Nothing!!! That's the best they can come up with
wsuther 4 years ago
Nothing!!! That's the best they can come up with Yeah... can evolution be fixed?
TJae1 4 years ago
I always thought lying was a sin for a Christian? Now here are some of kirk and Ray's lies: - there is no evidence for evolution
(maybe look in some of the thousands of published articels on evolution. there are hundreds of fossils and many transitional forms)
vreesje 4 years ago 2
It is absolutely astonishing to see how little these two guys understand about evolution theory. They always make the same mistakes. For example: comparing living to non living things. A plane doesn't reproduce like we do. It hasn't got cells, DNA etc... so it's a horrible and naive analogy which fails utterly.
vreesje 4 years ago
the Bible says who dont believe are spirituly blind how can a blind man lead a blind man? wont they fall into a pit?
even darwin doubted his theory,even the person who found it has doubt
great video
danwazhere7 4 years ago
"tree-jet is about the same as monkey-human???"
Comparing two types of primates is just about the same as comparing a plant with an inorganic mechanical device??
Give me a break.
walkingf00l 4 years ago
So, apparently it's normal for Kirk to make outrageous, clown-like expressions on a daily basis?
walkingf00l 4 years ago
Soooo..... This video is comparing a biological organism (a man and a monkey) and a machine (two different types of airplanes) and using the comparison of the two as disproof of evolution? It's the logic of a child!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AryranShredder 4 years ago
idots
indjuwandjuwa 4 years ago
Rom 1:20 For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse.
Rom 1:21 Because, knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, neither were thankful. But they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing to be wise, they became fools
ricardor7 4 years ago
"There she blows!--there she blows! A hump like a snow-hill! It is Moby Dick!"
I can quote fiction too!
fergmasterflex 4 years ago
Samurai, would you please cite a source for this Darwin quote? Because I've never heard it, and I think you may be making it up.
And it wouldn't matter anyway, because it's pointless to say "If X isn't discovered by [timeframe], then it's not true."
How's this: If you can't count to one million in 5 minutes, it proves that there's no such number as one million. Very faulty logic.
johnnysane 4 years ago
These guys have no morals. They try to discredit one of the most advanced theories of our time by personally attacking Darwin and labeling him as a racist and sexist. Darwin was one of the greatest scientists of all time. Don't you dare try to smear his name in the name of your delusional beliefs.
kubush 4 years ago
Uh...evolution is real! Planet of the Apes movie...duh
yeyo1228 4 years ago
QUESTION: Just because we look similar to apes does that mean we evolved from apes?
ANSWER: Actually, Kirk, YES it does. See, there's this thing called DNA and OUR DNA is a 98% MATCH with APE DNA. See that! That's a FACT! We call that little thing SCIENCE. SCIENCE is based on things you can PROVE in repeated experiments.
If these two clowns ever come up to me on the street I'm punching them both in the neck.
Hunterseeker1 4 years ago
ok.... what about the fish thing in evolution that got on land? did it have gills or a nose? if it had a nose it woulda died in water. if it had gills it woulda died on land.
jacobshiver 4 years ago
You cannot possibly be that stupid.
fergmasterflex 4 years ago
There are lungfish, jacob, that survive well both in water and out of it.
An encyclopedia would be a good start for you.
johnnysane 4 years ago
GOOD this video will and SHOULD shut up the mouths of atheists who are and LACK knowledge------praise jesus
FadedHolySoldier 4 years ago
That pair has the logic and intelligence of a dumpling. Hahhaa
alexandermcknight 4 years ago
Holy crap!!! I can't watch any more. This is out right B.S.
calhoun81670 4 years ago
These two adults act like children.
hhgj87 4 years ago
The Judaeo Christian god is "a vindictive blood thirsty ethnic cleansing, misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, finicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious malevolent bully." --Richard Dawkins
putittogether 4 years ago
do you have evidence that good manners is rational? these stupid christians are calling that ape stupid because it has bad manners. prove that bad manners is irrational. these christians are the stupidest people on earth
luxfero 4 years ago
perhaps maybe if the ape where trained to use good table manners then the story would be different now would it? Who would want to do that though?
albertyd26 4 years ago
OH MY GOODNESS!!!
The INCREDIBLE LOGICAL POWER of these arguments of planes and an orangutan have convinced me that EVOLUTION is TOTALLY FALSE!!!
It's a good thing that Ray and Kirk never use false analogies.
Plane=Evolution is false. PERFECT LOGIC!
Seriously, Ray and Kirk should learn about strawmen and appeal to ridicule.
KamehamehaX10 4 years ago
Actually I think Ray and Kirk are talking about the idea that God doesn't send people to hell because they don't believe in him, but because they transgressed from the law. So they invent this analogy of a plane to super impose on bible scritures like the last 12 verses of Mark to shut up people who quote:
"He who does not BELIEVE is condemned."
albertyd26 4 years ago
Its honestly hard to tell who is smarter. Kirk or the orangutan. Whatever Darwins beliefs about women or race is irrelevant when it comes to the theory of evolution. Futhermore, to say there are no transitional fossils is just plain ignorant.
Chimpdaddy 4 years ago
These two are CRAZY!!!!!!!
robfanclub 4 years ago
Yeah.....Darwin is racist and chauvenistic...unlike the bible.
anonnigh 4 years ago
Don't disable ratings.
DickJohnson3434 4 years ago
Way to go with the scare tactics there. Make people hate Darwin, and they won't believe him, even though he is mostly right. grr.
estel4me 4 years ago
Oh my GOD. That lower creature just broke the 10th commandment! He's going to Hell!
drkvallik 4 years ago
Humans aren't native to every country in the world, either. Humans evolved a long, long time ago, probably somewhere in the Middle East or Africa, and have slowly populated the rest of the world. Apes aren't capable of that kind of extensive travel because of their smaller brains. Why don't you just stop asking erroneous questions and accept the fact that you're never going to convince anyone with your backwards logic?
sarahbeth722 4 years ago
"well if that is the case then why are'nt there apes in every country of the world"
Well, why aren't there lions or giraffes in every country in the world?
Here's a question for you: if God created Man, why did he give him eyes with a blind spot and the males nipples?
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
The different languages have nothing to do with evolution and everything to do with geography. Americans all come from ancestors that came from another country, and many have ancestors that spoke another language, but we still speak English, and have an American accent. It's part of the American culture. Spoken language evolved after humans split from apes, like I already said. It has nothing to do with the fact that we evolved from primitive primates.
sarahbeth722 4 years ago
I don't understand the question. Language in humans evolved after we had already separated from "monkeys" as you call them (actually apes, a totally different thing). The fact that we have different languages has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. You need to clarify your question before I can answer it.
sarahbeth722 4 years ago
Are you serious? Monkeys do communicate, just in a different way. That very small difference has allowed us to evolve much larger brains, which has enabled us to create such a complex society and language. My point was not that we are exactly the same as monkeys, but the comparison between a tree and a jet is obviously specious. If you don't know anything about biology or evolution, then dont argue about it.
sarahbeth722 4 years ago
If you think that tree-jet is about the same as chimpanzee-human, then you are either functionally retarded or you have never seen a chimpanzee interact with its surroundings. The difference in human and chimp DNA is only 1.2%. How can you not look at a chimp and say that we are related? They look like hairy humans! But a tree is a living thing while a jet is a man-made machine. A better comparison would be a pine tree and a spruce tree. Oh wait, they DO share a common ancestor!
sarahbeth722 4 years ago
To clarify, a Jet would not exist, were it not for the lessons learned on Biplanes, Monoplanes and eventually jet aircraft. The Darwin quotes about women are funny, considering what the bible teaches about women.
kev3d 4 years ago
What the Bible says about women, you have no real understanding about. If you want to know the truth try looking at the context of what is written, or check out the book Theology of the Body for Beginners, by Christopher West. He does an excellent job explaining what it all truly means.
angelmezzanine 4 years ago
Yes, Im sure Solomon, the wisest man ever, had a very good reason for having 700 wives and 300 concubines. Maybe the women in Ephesia (Or was it Corinth?) wouldn't shut up. Maybe God doesnt have a Gender, except for when he impregnated a woman with his son (Who is also himself) The Context, of course, is that the bible was written by men, inspired by men.
kev3d 4 years ago
this is funny stuff man!!
albertyd26 4 years ago
angel...the bible is no friend of women. When god would order the slaughter of a people, he would tell them to keep the virgins for themselves, such as in Numbers 31. In Deut 22, a rapist must marry his victim. In fact, that chapter is particularly disturbing from verses 13-30. Anyhow, the list goes on and on. It is truly disgusting how the women in the bible are treated.
IaintNoGood 4 years ago
I am tired of stating this over and over again, buuutt please do not insult my knowledge. Stop quoting out of the old testement Eph 2:14. The Bible is absolutly a friend to women, read up... Eph 5:21-30 is just ONE of many. The new testement, and the word of Jesus is all about love.
angelmezzanine 4 years ago
angel...nice of you to support your rhetoric by explaining how I am wrong. It is right there in your holy book, if a man rapes a woman, he must marry her. If a woman is raped and is married, she will be stoned to death. Show me where I err specifically do not just whine how I am wrong.
IaintNoGood 4 years ago
(Matthew 5:17-19)
Just wanted to remind you that you can't pick and choose what you want to believe in the bible, for whoever does, will be called least of the kingdom of heaven.
albertyd26 4 years ago
(Matthew 5:17-19)
Just wanted to remind you that you can't pick and choose what you want to believe in the bible, for whoever does, will be called least of the kingdom of heaven. That's a problem... it's difficult to argue natural facts with faith...
TJae1 4 years ago
Sorry Kirk, the Modern Jet did evolve from earlier planes, including the biplane. I sometimes think these videos are made in secret by evolutionists, to show how dumb creationists are. Sadly, these are REAL creationists, and they are lying out of their asses.(or just really stupid)
kev3d 4 years ago
Yes but a modern Jet did not evolve from a tree and that is what is being claimed by evolutionist.
There was a story my mom read to me about a princes kissing a frog that magically turns into a prince and it was a fairytale, the difference between evolutionist and that fairytale is time.
dmarvin811 4 years ago
That is certainly NOT what is claimed by evolution. If you read anything, you would know that. But I expect such a response from a creationist, who symbolically put their fingers in their ears and loudly sing a hymn.
kev3d 4 years ago
So where am I wrong? Give me an example. Doesn't evolutionist believe we came from frogs? It is just fairytales, dude.
dmarvin811 4 years ago
Mankind and frogs and all other life shares ancestory. But Man did not descend from modern frogs, rather amphibians went one evolutionary direction, reptiles and later mammals went another, but this was tens of millions of years ago. Dont take my word for it, look up the DNA evidence.
kev3d 4 years ago
"Yes but a modern Jet did not evolve from a tree and that is what is being claimed by evolutionist."
Which 'evolutionist' claimed this? Please provide us with a link to the article in which any 'evolutionist' makes this claim.
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
Obviously, dmarvin is oblivious to the concept of "small changes over many generations."
His idea of evolution comes from Pokemon, much like the Blunder Twins in the video.
johnnysane 4 years ago
"Yes but a modern Jet did not evolve from a tree and that is what is being claimed by evolutionist."
show me where a scientist has claimed this
rxbandit21 4 years ago
Evolutionist say things evolved over millions of years so how do things evolve in a symbiotic relationship? Example is coral and coral fish. The fish eat the algae off the coral and without them the coral would be choked off by the algae. My favorite is the Giraffe and the thorn tree (the thorns used on Jesus' head) the pollen is spread on the giraffe's neck from tree to tree. With out relationships species would die, with it they thrive. Millions no way designed...yes.
dmarvin811 4 years ago
dmarvin811, you didn't answer the question. Which scientist or 'evolutionist' claimed a Jet evolved from a tree, and where did he claim this?
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
I was making the analogy that evolutionist say that two different species came from the same ancestor it may have been a bad example on my part, now answer that last question.
dmarvin811 4 years ago
It's very very simple: natural selection. Really wonder why you ask questions here, as there are libraries full of information readily available for you. But in short: species that co-operate (even with other species) have a bigger chance of survival. Now answer my questions in the PM I sent you, as you have been awfully quiet there.
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
"PM I sent you,"
Sorry I don't understand what this means
dmarvin811 4 years ago
"Sorry I don't understand what this means"
More specific: my reply to the PM you sent me 5 days ago
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
Sorry still don't understand. Be specific or restate question. What is a PM, anyway?
dmarvin811 4 years ago
PM = Private Message
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
Oops I will do that now
dmarvin811 4 years ago
"No evidence when it comes to the theory of Evolution..." That's a ridiculous statement. Just because you don't understand, or are not educated on the evidence of a specific subject does not mean there isn't evidence. The entire video is an example of flawed logic. I find this video almost offensive in its dishonest representation of evolution, and evolutionary theory.
joshstoops101 4 years ago
To say there is no transitional forms is ridiculous. I find it interesting how they take a complex subject that biologist and zoologist spend their lifetimes learning and discovering and then ask the lay person about transitional forms, the fossil record, etc. That would be like asking the common christian about the Hebrew meanings of words in the bible. You really prove a point.
joshstoops101 4 years ago
This is the most childish logic. I'm shocked that anyone would try to seriously argue like this.
beauisrad 5 years ago
Someone commissioned it, someone designed it, and lots of other people did the actual construction.
Who is this mysterious "Builder" who can design and build an entire skyscraper by himself?
dechha1981 5 years ago
Right turn, Clyde. While you're at it, left turn, Clyde.
confiscator 5 years ago
dmarvin811, hate to disappoint you, but I'm not afraid of death and don't fear hell simply because it doesn't exist. Try something else if you want to convert me, scaring me won't work. Have any other cards up your sleeve?
pioerghaozprhgorueir 5 years ago