"No moral, no message, no prophetic tract.Just a simple statement of fact - for civilization to survive, the human race has to remain civilized. Tonight's very small exercise in logic, from the Twilight Zone."
Reminds me of how the Japanese didn't panic or loot and stood in long queues for supplies after the earthquake and tsunamis.
Liberal message: If you prepare to provide for your family's safety and protection from unforeseen calamities such as war, economic upheavals and natural disasters, you are a right wing wacko.
Liberals always try to squeeze a square peg into a round hole.
"...when one of our own cruise missiles 'accidentally' detonated without warning in the bomb bay of a B1 Bomber as it was preparing to takeoff'." Ha, ha, ha....
"...the shock of that accident pulled us back from the brink of war..." Ha, ha, ha....
@tiki886 -- A zealot is a fanatic extremist who bends every idea & argument no matter how bizarre or illogical to 'prove' their predisposed conclusion. The demonization of Liberal as 'anti-conservative tax and spend big-government entitlement-moochers' is a case-in-point. You sound just like a tea-party hardliner, handily recycling the hypocritical nonsense of Reagan & Bush True Believers. The last 5 admins have seen a constant increase in bloated, corrupt, spendthrift gov regardless of party.
@tiki886: And ignorant. To initiate a nuclear explosion, a lot of things have to happen at exactly the right time, and in the right sequence. No way can one accidentally explode. At worst, the high explosives might go off and scatter the Pu fuel, but that's nothing compared to a full on detonation. Only in the Stupidity Zone...
"No moral, no message, no prophetic tract.Just a simple statement of fact - for civilization to survive, the human race has to remain civilized. Tonight's very small exercise in logic, from the Twilight Zone."
Why is his family all smiles and sunshine? Hes trapped in a radiation filled dome. The wife looks like she knows hes alive but clearly doesn't care. I guess its his fault for not treating her right.
Amazing how the media influences our lives and especially Americans.
In the 1960s the US Govt was telling everyone to build shelters and by the 1980s it was spewing out propaganda that nucelar war was unsurviveable.Remember all the films like Testament,the day after,shelter skelter,etc etc.Anyone that was preparing to survive was a stero typical MRE eating, M16 brandishing,cammo wearing,bunker living nutjob who would come to a sticky end.Yet the US govt was doing exactly that to survive.
@jordanrosario EXCELLENT !!!!. Thanks pal. It's been eons since I've seen that episode. Now maybe you can name the episode where the kid's grandma is laying in a bed and things happen whilst he is keeping an eye one her? Don't quite remember the gist of the episode, just remember it frightened me as a child.
@manmanguy That would be "Gramma", which is episode #45 of season 1. "Tea, Georgie! Bring me my tea!" (I was looking for that episode myself, and considering how dark and frighting, I thought it was a Tales from the Darkside episode, but nope, it's an episode from the 80's revival of the Twilight Zone).
Incidentally, Shelter Skelter is one of my favorite Twilight Zones, along aside "A Little Piece and Quiet" or "Time Enough at Last" (all nuclear war themed; scariest as it can happen!)
Serling's "Shelter" gave us an idealized view of the cautious, patriarchal Family Man. The Cobb's gave us the mirror opposite version. But they reflect the same message, even if the original TZ is more precise and coherent (as they always are) compared to the 80's counterparts. Whether SOCIETY "loses it" or the INDIVIDUAL goes bad - there is no point in "surviving" such a catastrophe without retaining the compassionate, collectivist brotherhood of all mankind and other pussy liberal sentiments.
It might interest some to know that the writer of this episode was Ron Cobb (he wrote it with his wife). This is his only writing credit in TV or movies. He's best known for designing such non-liberal movies as 'Conan the Barbarian', 'The Last Starfighter' & 'Total Recall'.
Cobb did create the ecology symbol and flag, however.
Rod Serling wrote the episode called "The Shelter", and other deeply liberal works as: *Patterns *The Rack *A Town Has Turned to Dust *Saddle the Wind *Seven Days in May
That was far from the worst ending, and Martha Coolidge is liberal, not stupid. Coolidge is a good director (see 'Rambling Rose', 'Not a Pretty Picture', etc.).
Check Websters:
"liberal : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts ... not bound by authoritarianism ...[and] a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties".
If a director remakes (yes this is a remake) a classic Twilight Zone episode and throws the moral of the story in the exact opposite direction with a weak plotline for political reasons, it makes her a BAD director...
Liberal:
Liberal arts - Doesn't apply to the sentence.
State of mind - This hasn't been used for the last 100 year.
Your argument is not even with the director, it's the screenwriter -- if you want someone to blame.
What you don't know (or are willfully ignoring) about liberalism and socialism, could almost fit in a drained Caspian Sea.
So you and the screenwriter, and Merriam Webster's are in firm disagreement.
If you think the original 'Twilight Zone' episode called 'The Shelter' had a different political message, you count as one of the more delusional viewers I've heard of.
You seem like a well educated although terribly misled guy. But you just wasted that entire post trying to insult me after I stated my case...
So why don't you man up and drop the ad hominem attacks. Than lay out your view of why a classic piece of cinematography that accurately lays out the fragility of our social structure and praises preparedness. Is the same as the demonizing of a survivalist who gets doomed in the end, while the rest lives?
Excuse me for not finding much to rebut in your "case".
You're one to talk about "ad hominem attacks", sheesh!
This is all subjective, how one interprets "The Shelter" v. "Shelter Skelter". Obviously, they're very different, to the point that discussing the 80's one as a "remake" is clearly the wrong tack. If you're looking for a direct analog - forget it. This turns the old idea on it head, makes the shelter-keeper the psychotic one. Its a little dopey, yet same message...
...and that message is, same as old: if you lose your head in anticipating some great upheaval or holocaust, you lose what is meaningful in human life, lose all that is worth fighting to survive for. And why would you want to survive in such a world?
I like that this didn't merely "update", it went further in it's plea for sanity and taking us off hair-trigger alert. We must be vigilant, prepare for the worst: not at the cost of losing our humanity. Fight war thru peace.
@FungusMossGnosis Did you even watch the first one? It doesn’t portray the prepared doctor as a crazy wife beater but as a loving parent that went to all the trouble for his family, while the rest of the community laughed at him during dinner parties.
It’s not about “losing what is meaning full in life.” Or “not at the cost of losing our humanity.” These are your emotional interpretations of the second film, not objective observations.
Wrong. I did see the B&W Rod Serling's (that raging liberal pacifistic Jewish WWII veteran's) "Shelter", and already told you this show (NOT A REMAKE) took an idea from that one and inverted it to portray the "neighbors" as calm, caring, peaceable and the "survivalist" as the sociopathic, bellicose nutjob. I don't think Serling would have approved of the 80's "Shelter", because it's too ironic and goofy, but the conclusion is ultimately the same (same quotes you rejected).
Also are you listening to yourself? “Why would you want to survive in such a world?” you think that just giving up and killing yourself is a better way out?
Have you ever read Aesop’s fables? Look up “The ant and the grasshopper” this might put forth the idea a bit more clearly.
"Are you listening to yourself?" Good question. Are you looking in a mirror? To prepare for the worst is smart (that's where the 80's inverted "Shelter" gets it goofy), but not at the cost of alienating yourself from civilization. A nuclear winter means the eradication of community, annihilation of the best (and worst) of culture. What would be left are a few pathetic "survivors" with no life. Much braver thing to work for peace for all mankind, sanity & empathy for us all.
Look, I prepare for hard times. Not because I’m some kind of nut job that wants the world to end, but because I’m a realist that has seen the worst man can do and realizes that peace, sanity & empathy for all, although admirable are in fact a pipedream. And it aggravates me that the majority of people will stick their head in the sand when confronted with the possibility of a violent interruption of their fragile dream.
So when media comes out that reinforces that dream by slandering self-reliance, it only damages the chances of other people “waking up” and surviving.
If you compare both movies the biggest and most crucial thing that is changed is the role of the people losing “humanity” in the first it is the dinner guests whom realize their helpless. In the second it’s the survivor, where in the movie tries to justify it by making it a freak situation.
Rod Serling Talks to Bob Crane about "The Shelter"
Add to the end of "youtube[dot]com/": watch?v=TghYXxm3wq8
It's tells of Rod's moral intentions in that episode. The breakdown of society, the breakdown of civility doesn't have to be a given. After that, there's no real hope for any survivors.
What we must be vigilant of more than anything else, is to prevent such a worldwide calamity as a nuclear or bio attack.
Like I said I'm a realist and I agree with Rod sterling about not building a bomb shelter. If you’re in the blast radius of an atomic bomb, even if you survive the initial blast you won't be able to sustain your self afterwards in the long-term. If your really concerned about nukes it would be smarter to live far away from a "target"
The only equipment I have for WMD's is complete set lvl 4 MOPP gear and some potassium iodine pills. But I focus more on the high likely hood of economic collapse, civil war and social unrest. War and designed starvation have killed far more men than nukes have.
No matter where you live, no matter where you go, there will always be nice, decent people and there will also be rude, useless people. You can't judge an entire region by the way a few people act. I live in the midwest, and I certainly wouldn't want to be characterized as a 'corn-pone'.
LMAO! The look on Mom's face when she says "Yes, that is where Daddy is buried" says it all - she didn't even bother to tell anyone to search his 'bunker' so he could be saved. HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's something about the final scene with Mantegna, where he's cocking his armory and getting his uniform together, as if he's expecting anything to come through that door right that _minute_ that is so haunting, even moreso than the camera drifting over the "destruction" a minute later.
Actually the original Shelter episode was made during the height of the Cold War... This "reimagining" escews the ending and meaning of the original work. In the original 60s TZ episode the "Mantegna character" is the Hero and the neighbours the paranoid characters. He emergeres from the bunker after the false alarm to realise he's all alone in a strange world where people are two-faced.
This "end of the Cold War" revision turns it on it's head brilliantly.
Well, in a way she owes him and he was right. A better world did come out of the explosion. A wolrd that's further from war than close to it. ANd it's because of his mistreatment of her that she was far away enough from the blast that she survived and now getss to raise her kids the way she wants to
@906087 -- Not certain if you're being facetious or not... That's kind of like thanking Adolf Hitler for getting Israel established, or Charles Whitman for getting the police to organize SWAT teams.
How evil these liberals depict a conservative. An insane wacko with disproporcionate measures. Well let me tell you. Having a safe place to keep your family and guns to ward off thieves is a good thing, no matter what the liberal media says. I bet those effeminate liberal moguls would be much happier sucking a cock and having their rear end pierced: That is their safety and their content. I bet with all this OBAMA disaster you are beginning to discern the truth. Friends, DO NOT BE DECEIVED!
I'm from the south, and I wonder why the media always seems to portray southern conservative types as irrational psychopaths. (This is seen in horror stories like this one or the episode of Masters of Horror called "Pro Life.")
People were a lot friendlier to me when I was living in a small town in Georgia than when I moved to California or New York.
@Cannibalzz Very interesting - I didn't get this at all as a specifically southern conservative portrayal.
I am guessing, however, that you must be subject to such stereotypical portrayals so frequently, that this story, not about the South, must be somewhat reminiscent, to bring it to mind?
@Cannibalzz I'm with you. People on the West Coast were awful. That's why I left and moved to the South. Nicest folk you'll ever meet, conservative values or not.
@Greenkai3000 I live in the south and the people here are rude, pridefull, ungodly, stupid,ignorant, skill-less,hobby-less freaks, so categorizing by region is retarded.us for example, I hate L.a. but love Northern California. Like 2 different worlds.
@Cannibalzz because you weren't black, or a jew, or mexican, or an atheist, or gay or from any other harmless social group. that's the answer to both of your questions
@yamimakaiz Well your obviously a yankee whose never been here. Whites get along with blacks better then they do up North,gay's are hated all over the u.s(they don't deserve it),though the south is more religious than up North,many people in the North and south hate atheists(we don't deserve it either)
Yeah I agree with joey.. I remembered watching this and being scared as hell. I miss the 80's man. It did so much for your consciousness just to watch a movie or sit threw a tv show
Harry needs to shoot his way out, find his wife and bitch slapp her.
3rdshifted 1 week ago
Dear God his wife is a bitch.
Crazydog7 1 month ago
one of my fav ones great x
margords 3 months ago
that beech
rayhs1984 5 months ago
my god the betrayal to his friend ... that was painful to listen to.
DJMimzy 5 months ago
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The original episode had a better message.
"No moral, no message, no prophetic tract.Just a simple statement of fact - for civilization to survive, the human race has to remain civilized. Tonight's very small exercise in logic, from the Twilight Zone."
Reminds me of how the Japanese didn't panic or loot and stood in long queues for supplies after the earthquake and tsunamis.
tiki886 7 months ago
Liberal message: If you prepare to provide for your family's safety and protection from unforeseen calamities such as war, economic upheavals and natural disasters, you are a right wing wacko.
tiki886 7 months ago 2
@tiki886 yea i know, the message was really stupid on this one
LasagnaIsGood 5 months ago
Liberals always try to squeeze a square peg into a round hole.
"...when one of our own cruise missiles 'accidentally' detonated without warning in the bomb bay of a B1 Bomber as it was preparing to takeoff'." Ha, ha, ha....
"...the shock of that accident pulled us back from the brink of war..." Ha, ha, ha....
The Peace Dome? Ha, ha, ha...
tiki886 7 months ago
@tiki886 -- A zealot is a fanatic extremist who bends every idea & argument no matter how bizarre or illogical to 'prove' their predisposed conclusion. The demonization of Liberal as 'anti-conservative tax and spend big-government entitlement-moochers' is a case-in-point. You sound just like a tea-party hardliner, handily recycling the hypocritical nonsense of Reagan & Bush True Believers. The last 5 admins have seen a constant increase in bloated, corrupt, spendthrift gov regardless of party.
starmanskye 6 months ago 2
@tiki886: And ignorant. To initiate a nuclear explosion, a lot of things have to happen at exactly the right time, and in the right sequence. No way can one accidentally explode. At worst, the high explosives might go off and scatter the Pu fuel, but that's nothing compared to a full on detonation. Only in the Stupidity Zone...
LordKelvin100 5 months ago
The original episode had a better message.
"No moral, no message, no prophetic tract.Just a simple statement of fact - for civilization to survive, the human race has to remain civilized. Tonight's very small exercise in logic, from the Twilight Zone."
tiki886 7 months ago
Would have been so much better without the typical heavy handed Hollywood stereotyping and preaching.
GeoXTC 7 months ago
YES ! NOW THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE NOW THAT HER HUSBAND IS DEAD !!! FEMINISM AT ITS BEST !!!!
micpeee 7 months ago 5
@micpeee XD I doubt it's a lesson on feminism, more like a lesson on not being a complete jerk to those around you, regardless of gender.
mamamuas 7 months ago
@mamamuas YEAH !! BECAUSE IF U DO SO , U WILL BE KILLED AND IT WILL BE JUSTIFIED !!!
micpeee 7 months ago
@micpeee ...That was a quick response. Oh what the heck. AMEN SISTAH!
mamamuas 7 months ago
@mamamuas MY PLEASURE !!! CREATURE !!!
micpeee 7 months ago
Why is his family all smiles and sunshine? Hes trapped in a radiation filled dome. The wife looks like she knows hes alive but clearly doesn't care. I guess its his fault for not treating her right.
TheA2VAL 7 months ago
I love how he's getting ready to become a post-apocalyptic badass...all alone...in a dome...hahahha sucker punch twist!
ThatGypsyBoy 7 months ago
its also against Communisme 0:52 red light
homoKaliptus 8 months ago
"In the bomb bay of a B-1 Bomber" try saying that 3 times fast!
TheBookWorm1718 9 months ago
Amazing how the media influences our lives and especially Americans.
In the 1960s the US Govt was telling everyone to build shelters and by the 1980s it was spewing out propaganda that nucelar war was unsurviveable.Remember all the films like Testament,the day after,shelter skelter,etc etc.Anyone that was preparing to survive was a stero typical MRE eating, M16 brandishing,cammo wearing,bunker living nutjob who would come to a sticky end.Yet the US govt was doing exactly that to survive.
omegapi1 11 months ago 4
so how long after do u think he lived, i give him like 3 or 4 weeks.
CalvtheMovieguy 11 months ago
anyone know the name of the episode where the kid is retarded but he can make things materialize by saying "bring?"
manmanguy 1 year ago
@manmanguy
im thinking the toys of caliban
jordanrosario 1 year ago
@jordanrosario EXCELLENT !!!!. Thanks pal. It's been eons since I've seen that episode. Now maybe you can name the episode where the kid's grandma is laying in a bed and things happen whilst he is keeping an eye one her? Don't quite remember the gist of the episode, just remember it frightened me as a child.
manmanguy 1 year ago
@manmanguy That would be "Gramma", which is episode #45 of season 1. "Tea, Georgie! Bring me my tea!" (I was looking for that episode myself, and considering how dark and frighting, I thought it was a Tales from the Darkside episode, but nope, it's an episode from the 80's revival of the Twilight Zone).
Incidentally, Shelter Skelter is one of my favorite Twilight Zones, along aside "A Little Piece and Quiet" or "Time Enough at Last" (all nuclear war themed; scariest as it can happen!)
Apple2gs 10 months ago
Serling's "Shelter" gave us an idealized view of the cautious, patriarchal Family Man. The Cobb's gave us the mirror opposite version. But they reflect the same message, even if the original TZ is more precise and coherent (as they always are) compared to the 80's counterparts. Whether SOCIETY "loses it" or the INDIVIDUAL goes bad - there is no point in "surviving" such a catastrophe without retaining the compassionate, collectivist brotherhood of all mankind and other pussy liberal sentiments.
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
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FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
It might interest some to know that the writer of this episode was Ron Cobb (he wrote it with his wife). This is his only writing credit in TV or movies. He's best known for designing such non-liberal movies as 'Conan the Barbarian', 'The Last Starfighter' & 'Total Recall'.
Cobb did create the ecology symbol and flag, however.
Rod Serling wrote the episode called "The Shelter", and other deeply liberal works as: *Patterns *The Rack *A Town Has Turned to Dust *Saddle the Wind *Seven Days in May
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
Worst ending ever!
You just know some stupid lib directed this movie...
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@TacticalCitySlicker
That was far from the worst ending, and Martha Coolidge is liberal, not stupid. Coolidge is a good director (see 'Rambling Rose', 'Not a Pretty Picture', etc.).
Check Websters:
"liberal : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts ... not bound by authoritarianism ...[and] a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties".
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago 2
@FungusMossGnosis
If a director remakes (yes this is a remake) a classic Twilight Zone episode and throws the moral of the story in the exact opposite direction with a weak plotline for political reasons, it makes her a BAD director...
Liberal:
Liberal arts - Doesn't apply to the sentence.
State of mind - This hasn't been used for the last 100 year.
Political - "progress" = code for socialist.
Goodness - Lie
Autonomy - Lie (opposite of socialist)
Civil Liberties - Lie
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@TacticalCitySlicker
Your argument is not even with the director, it's the screenwriter -- if you want someone to blame.
What you don't know (or are willfully ignoring) about liberalism and socialism, could almost fit in a drained Caspian Sea.
So you and the screenwriter, and Merriam Webster's are in firm disagreement.
If you think the original 'Twilight Zone' episode called 'The Shelter' had a different political message, you count as one of the more delusional viewers I've heard of.
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago 2
@FungusMossGnosis So where's your rebuttal?
You seem like a well educated although terribly misled guy. But you just wasted that entire post trying to insult me after I stated my case...
So why don't you man up and drop the ad hominem attacks. Than lay out your view of why a classic piece of cinematography that accurately lays out the fragility of our social structure and praises preparedness. Is the same as the demonizing of a survivalist who gets doomed in the end, while the rest lives?
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@TacticalCitySlicker
Excuse me for not finding much to rebut in your "case".
You're one to talk about "ad hominem attacks", sheesh!
This is all subjective, how one interprets "The Shelter" v. "Shelter Skelter". Obviously, they're very different, to the point that discussing the 80's one as a "remake" is clearly the wrong tack. If you're looking for a direct analog - forget it. This turns the old idea on it head, makes the shelter-keeper the psychotic one. Its a little dopey, yet same message...
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
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FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
@TacticalCitySlicker
...and that message is, same as old: if you lose your head in anticipating some great upheaval or holocaust, you lose what is meaningful in human life, lose all that is worth fighting to survive for. And why would you want to survive in such a world?
I like that this didn't merely "update", it went further in it's plea for sanity and taking us off hair-trigger alert. We must be vigilant, prepare for the worst: not at the cost of losing our humanity. Fight war thru peace.
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
@FungusMossGnosis Did you even watch the first one? It doesn’t portray the prepared doctor as a crazy wife beater but as a loving parent that went to all the trouble for his family, while the rest of the community laughed at him during dinner parties.
It’s not about “losing what is meaning full in life.” Or “not at the cost of losing our humanity.” These are your emotional interpretations of the second film, not objective observations.
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@TacticalCitySlicker
Wrong. I did see the B&W Rod Serling's (that raging liberal pacifistic Jewish WWII veteran's) "Shelter", and already told you this show (NOT A REMAKE) took an idea from that one and inverted it to portray the "neighbors" as calm, caring, peaceable and the "survivalist" as the sociopathic, bellicose nutjob. I don't think Serling would have approved of the 80's "Shelter", because it's too ironic and goofy, but the conclusion is ultimately the same (same quotes you rejected).
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
@FungusMossGnosis
...cont
Also are you listening to yourself? “Why would you want to survive in such a world?” you think that just giving up and killing yourself is a better way out?
Have you ever read Aesop’s fables? Look up “The ant and the grasshopper” this might put forth the idea a bit more clearly.
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@TacticalCitySlicker
"Are you listening to yourself?" Good question. Are you looking in a mirror? To prepare for the worst is smart (that's where the 80's inverted "Shelter" gets it goofy), but not at the cost of alienating yourself from civilization. A nuclear winter means the eradication of community, annihilation of the best (and worst) of culture. What would be left are a few pathetic "survivors" with no life. Much braver thing to work for peace for all mankind, sanity & empathy for us all.
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
@FungusMossGnosis
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Look, I prepare for hard times. Not because I’m some kind of nut job that wants the world to end, but because I’m a realist that has seen the worst man can do and realizes that peace, sanity & empathy for all, although admirable are in fact a pipedream. And it aggravates me that the majority of people will stick their head in the sand when confronted with the possibility of a violent interruption of their fragile dream.
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@FungusMossGnosis
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So when media comes out that reinforces that dream by slandering self-reliance, it only damages the chances of other people “waking up” and surviving.
If you compare both movies the biggest and most crucial thing that is changed is the role of the people losing “humanity” in the first it is the dinner guests whom realize their helpless. In the second it’s the survivor, where in the movie tries to justify it by making it a freak situation.
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@TacticalCitySlicker
Strangely, I just discovered this:
Rod Serling Talks to Bob Crane about "The Shelter"
Add to the end of "youtube[dot]com/": watch?v=TghYXxm3wq8
It's tells of Rod's moral intentions in that episode. The breakdown of society, the breakdown of civility doesn't have to be a given. After that, there's no real hope for any survivors.
What we must be vigilant of more than anything else, is to prevent such a worldwide calamity as a nuclear or bio attack.
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
@FungusMossGnosis
1of2
That is a nice find!
Like I said I'm a realist and I agree with Rod sterling about not building a bomb shelter. If you’re in the blast radius of an atomic bomb, even if you survive the initial blast you won't be able to sustain your self afterwards in the long-term. If your really concerned about nukes it would be smarter to live far away from a "target"
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
@FungusMossGnosis
The only equipment I have for WMD's is complete set lvl 4 MOPP gear and some potassium iodine pills. But I focus more on the high likely hood of economic collapse, civil war and social unrest. War and designed starvation have killed far more men than nukes have.
TacticalCitySlicker 1 year ago
damn
chitownboyz 1 year ago
dude... such a twilight zone ending haha!
marvelmax03191 1 year ago
Everywhere i worked in the south, people always warned me about the backwoods, up in the hills people.
ryoushii 1 year ago
No matter where you live, no matter where you go, there will always be nice, decent people and there will also be rude, useless people. You can't judge an entire region by the way a few people act. I live in the midwest, and I certainly wouldn't want to be characterized as a 'corn-pone'.
Smalltowngal29 1 year ago
Excellent ending! Haha!
kingklabe 1 year ago
That was a good episode!
cipher2 1 year ago
LMAO! The look on Mom's face when she says "Yes, that is where Daddy is buried" says it all - she didn't even bother to tell anyone to search his 'bunker' so he could be saved. HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lucasjins 1 year ago 3
stupid fucking ending!
bigbadreddog 1 year ago
poor Harry. what a way to go.
atlanticl 1 year ago
There's something about the final scene with Mantegna, where he's cocking his armory and getting his uniform together, as if he's expecting anything to come through that door right that _minute_ that is so haunting, even moreso than the camera drifting over the "destruction" a minute later.
astrocitizen 1 year ago
ok the the morale of this show is "survival instinct" is bad. how twisted.
atlanticl 1 year ago
@atlanticl no it's really about how Red Necks can be pricks and be all about getting ready for WW3 and forget to live life...
colliric 1 year ago 2
@colliric
well it was the height of the Cold War. obviously, some needed to just be prepared.
atlanticl 1 year ago
@atlanticl
Actually the original Shelter episode was made during the height of the Cold War... This "reimagining" escews the ending and meaning of the original work. In the original 60s TZ episode the "Mantegna character" is the Hero and the neighbours the paranoid characters. He emergeres from the bunker after the false alarm to realise he's all alone in a strange world where people are two-faced.
This "end of the Cold War" revision turns it on it's head brilliantly.
colliric 1 year ago
Joe Mantegna, post-apocalyptic warrior.
scottvska 1 year ago 4
You're so right, and know to I think how one word from her about the fallout shelter could save his life. I love Twilight Zone irony.
Taopuppy 1 year ago 2
Well, in a way she owes him and he was right. A better world did come out of the explosion. A wolrd that's further from war than close to it. ANd it's because of his mistreatment of her that she was far away enough from the blast that she survived and now getss to raise her kids the way she wants to
906087 1 year ago 2
@906087 -- Not certain if you're being facetious or not... That's kind of like thanking Adolf Hitler for getting Israel established, or Charles Whitman for getting the police to organize SWAT teams.
astrocitizen 1 year ago
@906087
heh yeah it's a great twist ending...
colliric 1 year ago
lol so thats where the simpsons got the biodome idea from in their movie
1androo2 1 year ago
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How evil these liberals depict a conservative. An insane wacko with disproporcionate measures. Well let me tell you. Having a safe place to keep your family and guns to ward off thieves is a good thing, no matter what the liberal media says. I bet those effeminate liberal moguls would be much happier sucking a cock and having their rear end pierced: That is their safety and their content. I bet with all this OBAMA disaster you are beginning to discern the truth. Friends, DO NOT BE DECEIVED!
mexman48 1 year ago
@mexman48 Wow. You just back up this theory of the evil conservative by your own words and you even do not realise it. How do they say? EPIC FAIL
gemselchen 1 year ago
@mexman48 Shut up.
DrSamba1 1 year ago
"In the bombay of a B1 Bomber". Say that seven times over!.
jonquil4000 1 year ago
You dont know how long Ive been looking for this episode!. I remember seeing this when I was just a kid!. Thank-you for posting it!!.
jonquil4000 1 year ago
stupid question, but when she says That is where daddy is buried, does she mean the gravestone or the dome?
mygirlfriendrules 1 year ago
@mygirlfriendrules
dude..........how could you miss it? She means the dome, and she KNOWS he's in the shelter.
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
@TheJomogogo kk, thx was just making sure
mygirlfriendrules 1 year ago
and they lived happily ever after
RFKFANTS67 2 years ago
Very good , It has been like 20 years since i saw this episode....thanks for the upload.
SuperJohnmusic 2 years ago
Brings new meaning to "Buried Alive"
Keepitgreasy11 2 years ago 2
real tv right here man great memories as a child watching this tv was the best ...nowadays i dont watch tv
datnjpapi08 2 years ago
I'm from the south, and I wonder why the media always seems to portray southern conservative types as irrational psychopaths. (This is seen in horror stories like this one or the episode of Masters of Horror called "Pro Life.")
People were a lot friendlier to me when I was living in a small town in Georgia than when I moved to California or New York.
Cannibalzz 2 years ago 19
@Cannibalzz : Southern conservatives? I may have heard wrong but I thought this was supposed to be Kansas City.
MalteseFalcon786 2 years ago
@Cannibalzz Very interesting - I didn't get this at all as a specifically southern conservative portrayal.
I am guessing, however, that you must be subject to such stereotypical portrayals so frequently, that this story, not about the South, must be somewhat reminiscent, to bring it to mind?
That's horrible, frankly.
mrspeel7 2 years ago
@Cannibalzz I'm with you. People on the West Coast were awful. That's why I left and moved to the South. Nicest folk you'll ever meet, conservative values or not.
Greenkai3000 1 year ago
@Greenkai3000 I live in the south and the people here are rude, pridefull, ungodly, stupid,ignorant, skill-less,hobby-less freaks, so categorizing by region is retarded.us for example, I hate L.a. but love Northern California. Like 2 different worlds.
AndrewKH85 1 year ago
@Cannibalzz I see no southern reference here... but anyways I live in the ozarks and people are horrible here.
AndrewKH85 1 year ago
@Cannibalzz because you weren't black, or a jew, or mexican, or an atheist, or gay or from any other harmless social group. that's the answer to both of your questions
yamimakaiz 1 year ago
@yamimakaiz Well your obviously a yankee whose never been here. Whites get along with blacks better then they do up North,gay's are hated all over the u.s(they don't deserve it),though the south is more religious than up North,many people in the North and south hate atheists(we don't deserve it either)
Superwolf1337 1 year ago
@Superwolf1337 no, i'm obviously not a 'yankee'.
yamimakaiz 1 year ago
@yamimakaiz Yes you are,if you were from here you wouldn't be spouting bullshit about it.
Superwolf1337 1 year ago
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@Superwolf1337 TAKE A LOOK AT MY CHANNEL IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A HINT YOU RETARD
yamimakaiz 1 year ago
@Cannibalzz actually ive seen people on youtube alot like harry from texas mostly
kichukdave 1 year ago
@Cannibalzz watch Tucker & Dale vs Evil (2010) that will lift your spirit up :)
djohnd199 11 months ago
@Cannibalzz I agree.
MysticArksRevenge 9 months ago
@Cannibalzz People in the South are friendly, but have disturbing views on things. I wonder how authentic their kindness is.
DJMimzy 5 months ago
Yeah I agree with joey.. I remembered watching this and being scared as hell. I miss the 80's man. It did so much for your consciousness just to watch a movie or sit threw a tv show
Zerubba 2 years ago
@Zerubba: Don't throw tv shows. They might hit someone in the eye.
existenceisrelative 1 year ago
The look on her face. Oh man. She knows, man. She knows.
FlameAdder 2 years ago 49
@FlameAdder
hah what a great twist! finally a 1985 TZ with a good old fashioned TZ ending!
colliric 1 year ago
@FlameAdder
hah what a great twist! finally a 1985 TZ with a good old fashioned TZ ending!
colliric 1 year ago
@FlameAdder You're right. The look on her face says it all. She knows, it her whole heart, that he's still alive in his shelter.
Taopuppy 1 year ago
the lighting is terrible
DarkSect0r13 2 years ago
This scared the living shit out of me as a kid. Thanks for posting it and reminding me it exists. :S
yourjoeyromeo 2 years ago