2.2 Let's play Apache Air Assault (2010) Mission 2 Part 2.wmv

[GeorgeJansen]

thanks for the help....i could not protect the down pilots until now....thanks

[mastergunnersgtdev]

is this a game and is this on pc ??? where can i get it

[fukthissite1]

@4:05 i cant believe your still talking about your inaccurate gun...

[wellmanfoster]

Except for the Music in the background, that had to be just like real Battle i think you play them well and it was funny the Missle's was annoying you thats just like a real Pilot LOL

[jaymorpheus11]

already see a big problem here, if you shoot at a building ... it's supposed to get damaged.

[ncfirefghtr117]

The real apache reticle shakes too. It comes from a 30mm cannon going off right under the CPG...

[Agent1W]

Soooo much like what happened in the "Black Hawk Down" film lol. But this time, there's plenty of firepower to beat those African warbands back!

[stalkingalizee]

Maybe they made the gun so inaccurate because the Apache gun is INACCURATE!

[MrJackBauer24Fan]

I have a problem the landing is bugged... How to land, do you have to just slowly lower your altitude till you hit the ground or what?

[brandonszb]

is yours 4 xbox360

[dean9398]

Stop taking the piss people I thought the video was great! If It was that bad there would be more dislikes, so grow up....im 14 btw, most of you are probably 20 and dont even have a job....go outside, GREAT VIDEO!!

[decep3107]

@dean9398 Thanks, bud ;)

[Ndublet97]

is it me or does this bloke take the game way to seriousley and thinks he is actually a soldier in the army?

[decep3107]

@Ndublet97 I think it's you. By the way, this bloke IS actually a soldier in the US Army, 10 years in. Thanks for the view.

[AimForMyHead81]

@Ndublet97 noob

[ace55231291]

Y dont you use the rudders to turn,

[decep3107]

@ace55231291 Because there are no rudders on an Apache. There's a tail rotor, which I am using the hell out of ;) As your speed increases, the amount of authority your tail rotor has decreases, which is why you can rotate in place during a hover but not at, say, 100 knots. This is probably why it looks like I'm not using my pedals in this video...

[ace55231291]

you dummy the gun is not inaccurate ,its the realistic feature of the game.its the same in real

[ace55231291]

poor strategy hovering too high.

[jacobpf4]

Blackhawk Down: The Official Video Game ???

[chevylover516]

@jacobpf4 lol thats what im thinking LOL

[AwookieGaming]

@eclipse245

CoD, of course. But in CoD, you can snipe across the map with a SMG. And if you kill 5 people, a uav drops a missile. So its far from realistic.

[claudeel]

@AwookieGaming battlefield bad company 2 , if you want something more realistic

[filipinoninja8]

@AwookieGaming but so are all games, since you respawn. bfbc2 is not safe either, you can snipe with pistols. but i enjoy them both and please, lets enjoy the video.:)

[elcanful]

my dads an apache pilot/operator nd he siad that the acuracy of the 30mm gun is not very good, so im guessing they just tried to make the game as realistic as possible

[yourtube20061]

is ur wingman still going to earn his paycheck ? haha.

btw..shooting an RPG is not a bad idea, can try for fun.

someone on some forum said its a good idea to destroy the surrounding buildings,wonder how that wd help, i am still to get thru this stage. seems doable now, after watching u do it !!

i love ur whining , hahahaha !!

[parcer4401]

nice move!! 8:25

[dinofreak10]

11:49 XD I lolled so hard! "Jesus...I swear to god,if I get 1 more missile warning!" XD

[ToNyBeAlL1]

I want to play online, but nobody is on. If you see this, add: M16NuTTaH an send a mag that ur from utube! Thankies!

[eclipse245]

LOL, since when can you see through walls with FLIR? lmfao.

[TheNucleusBomb9000]

Use short controlled burst makes it esier to shhot.

[NoInspirationHD]

You aim on a riding vehicle while shooting..

You should aim infront of it

[MrDJDamc]

I'm not a helicopter pilot nor any specialist in helicopters but was I the only person who noticed that the crash landing of that Apache looked at least a little unrealistic? It looked as if they had engine fire or sth like that, doesn't matter. As far as i know when you loose engine power at a quite high altitude (and it seemed to me to be at least 200 meters) in a helicopter u use "autorotation" to land safely (it's quite similar to gliding in fixed wing aircraft).

[calantlor]

@joyceww3 no it shoulodnt becasue the actualy camera is not connected to the gun you dumbfuck.

AND

even IF it would be like that the shake would be CONTROLABLE unlike in this case.

So retard to you good sir XD

[calantlor]

@decep3107 agree

[VP181S]

Yea the shakycam in FLIR mode is really annoying.

[idavidtani]

woooow this guy is such a whiner in this video lol, k I'll stop watching the series here... didn't come to watch and listen to people whine at me.

[decep3107]

@idavidtani lol, what? who are you talking to?

[idavidtani]

@decep3107

The obnoxious whiner that is talking during the video. I guess that's you.

[decep3107]

@idavidtani Wow, you're a douchebag. Thanks for the views.

[yourit311]

@idavidtani mute the sound..whiner



[retardvillage2000]

@idavidtani

I think the obnoxious one is you...

[calantlor]

@idavidtani ................douche?

[KennyDaPILOT]

lol joyceww3 sadly has a point.... Better to fire in burst than full auto because it just messes your shot even more xD

[06ZX10rBlack]

The gun does recoil, all guns do, the camera is not mounted on the gun so you you don't really see it on the flir, and yes the kill radius is decent but its not instant, gunners usually have to do 2 or 3 attempts to make sure they don't leave the mortally wounded all over the place. It would have been costly to include that in the game and probably would raise the age of this game from Teen to Mature.

Just from the video it appears the gun is more accurate while zoomed in, and your not leading

[gd01skorpius]

Lol dude I love watching these videos and hearing you complain about the same stupid that I complain about. Like, flying the chopper is really fun, and it looks great, but there is so many things game design details that are completely fucked. The only reason I keep playing this game is because it's the only helicopter combat game out right now.

[strabbs1]

guys this looks like a simulation to me, looks great!!

[painttrooper92]

The gun cam moves around that much because that's the actuall result from recoil in real life

[TheXLink]

@painttrooper92 The camera is not fixed on the gun, and the real deal do not shake like that. Well a little bit, but not like this. The gun shake when fired, but not the camera.

[7ankss]

Man...don't care for what people say here ... (rude things)...

You have done a great job.........

At least you are not a lazy lad, and that you have made an effort to make this video......eventually to guide people, and show them before hand, that what they gonna buy.....

I love this game........

and you are a great decent dude....

Thumbs up

[Megalodon64]

i found a great way to reduce the amount of shaking on the reticle. zoom in till it cant zoom any further and dont hold the fire button. just do taps.

[Point50Cal]

About those missile warnings, those would be Somalis shooting at you with SA-7 Strela-2 shoulder-launched missiles, which you can only see on he FLIR. Typical Taliban-style tactic to sneak a couple of those guys armed with Strelas or Iglas close to your base, and let you have it.

[casey963]

They coded the gun like that so the gun wouldn't be that easy. I know it's a simulator of sorts, but they wouldn't sell anything what so ever if it was complete.

[MarkoDanojevic]

I have the same Joystick like you, but when I enter gunner view croshair is always going down..Can you pls tell me why is this happening? tnx

[jagcivtec]

this is a pretty good sim style game....I just hate how the enemy has some kind of GPS and radar that gives them the ability to accurately shoot you from very far away while youre concealed behind thick forest.

[legendary0o]

game looks good

[Mouiki]

It's not just the accuracy that's a problem with the 30mm cannon on this game. It's that the shell's kill radius is pathetic. In reality, they have a lethal radius of 10 ft, and on this game unless it lands rigth next to them its not a kill shot.

[Mouiki]

@Mouiki Another problem I have is that the British Army Air Corps and also the RAF DO NOT have Black Hawks. The RAF and BA a different type of Heli, I believe it's the Lynx

[180791sanguinius]

@Mouiki They use Apaches, built by Agusta Westland...

[Mouiki]

@180791sanguinius

Yes but the chopper that picks up the pilots is a UH-60 blackhawk.

[180791sanguinius]

@Mouiki True, but I only said about Apaches.. ;-)

[decep3107]

@Mouiki Agreed.

[xentrox]

Nice video, got a few questions though. What are you using to fly? M+KB or a controller? Also, I beat the game on training, but I'm having a hard time destroying air targets, the AA missiles don't do anything, because they get evaded with flares. And my AI gunner never shoots anything so I end up having to rocket the air units and that takes FOREVER! Can you help me?

[BobH360]

I like your vids for this game. You've convinced me to buy it. Then again, I'm a sucker for a good chopper game. I hope it supports "Metal Strike Pro". I'm down-loading it now. :)

[neonblack88]

ahahah the recoil is ridiculous but its not hard to hit things with it, I can hit shit from 3km away easy you just need to lead alot, alot more than you do.

[ISAFSoldier]

The shake is the recoil effecting your Helo when you use the 30mm. Look at the cam vids of real Apaches going at it with the gun.

You did choose Realistic =P

[decep3107]

@ISAFSoldier No, dude, the shake is not realistic at all. Watch the video response to this video called 'Reticle shake in Apache Air Assault'. The reticle does not shake in real life... Appreciate your comment though, thanks for watching ;D

[ISAFSoldier]

@decep3107 just saw it, you're right, my bad. The vid I was referring to another vid where you could see the helo visibly shakes as the 30mm fires. I rewatched it and the helo does shake, but not as much in the game. I was going off remembering when I first saw that vid way back when. Time warps memories I suppose. =P Looking forward to Vid 5. :D

[jjrob1989]

@decep3107 i have seen multiple videos of real apaches firing where the reticle moves for them as well........i think less bitchin more killin lol

[stratagie1]

@ISAFSoldier yep i said that on mission 2 part one vid also this part of the mission is very like black hawk down including the immediate attack of enemy also decep3107

feather the trigger mate to stop so much recoil also you may overheat your 30 cal doing that apart from that your a good combat pilot

[firefightere210]

@ISAFSoldier there is no recoil that effects the apache when firing the 30mm.it has no effect on the helicopter while hovering and firing.

[1easterling3]

THANKYOU!! FINALLY I CAN COMPLETED THE MISSION!!

[xThistlestarx]

6:35-6:55

it looks like your parallel 2 the ground.....and last time i checked, helos don't fly that way. so how did u manage 2 pull it off? or am i completely mistaken?

[decep3107]

@xThistlestarx I was pitched forward with full collective (power) in the seconds before that, gaining speed. Once your speed is up you can pretty much fly level, adding forward and aft cyclic (pitch & roll) as needed to speed up or slow down.

[xThistlestarx]

@decep3107

oh....didn't notice that.

[ezecoo]

@xThistlestarx Most helos don't fly that way actually, you are right on that part but thats only most. the apaches and HINDs and alot more can fly paralell to the ground because of the way they are made, shaped and calibrated.

Don't try it in an Apache if you ever fly one. it isn't fun

[douboymkIII]

use fucking hellfires, nab!

[decep3107]

@douboymkIII You only have 8.

[douboymkIII]

@decep3107

so they dont reload like rockets then?

[decep3107]

@douboymkIII They do, but it takes almost 3 minutes to reload. You can see the countdown timer on the TADS view, I was out during the engagement where I was defending the downed Apache.

[decep3107]

Hey guys, watch the video response I put up called 'Reticle Shake in Apache Air Assault'. I'm not trying to start an argument, I just want to show you why I feel the shaking is waay over exaggerated in this game.

[OneNeutrino]

Has anyone watching this video actually watched real footage of an Apache shooting targets?

So unrealistic. Sure there is a bullet spread, but the reticule should definitely be almost still.

Also, I love that @4:42 the spread is larger than the building, but when you zoom in the bullet spread and reticule shaking is no larger than the guy you are shooting at. Hilarious.

Changing the zoom must add riffling and make the primer explosions softer I guess. Or it's just wrong.

[decep3107]

@OneNeutrino lol, good observation about 4:42, I never even noticed that...

[chrislgrooms]

The weapons in this game are very accurate in my opinion. It makes a nice attempt at realism, though it is not (though it is much more realistic than a lot of these types of games that I have played). The issue that really manages to piss me off about this game, is that in each map, every single enemy vehicle, heli and armor is firing at you. It gets incredibly ridiculous later on. It's like having the Death Star firing a constant barrage at you as you try to get 3 seconds to aim. Impossible.

[decep3107]

@chrislgrooms Amen. You pretty much summed up exactly how I feel about this game. It's like they nailed the hard parts (the flight model, graphics, etc...) but gave up on the seemingly easy to remedy stuff. It's tough to enjoy this game fully when you (in a freaking APACHE) can't engage a target from 3km out with a hellfire, yet your target (a pickup truck bouncing around in the dirt, carrying guys with AK-47s), is successfully engaging you at the same distance...

[7DeMoN7]

@decep3107 Wait till you play the mission (forgot the name) with the oil wells or something. Im pretty sure you will get mad like I was when I was playing that mission. Good luck , Nice videos though ;P

[jackozi45]

7:24 hahaha omg fucking he is such a geak????

[utubepredator]

"look at the amount of shake on that reticle" ???? wtf!!

maybe you should remember each bullet leaves with an explosion behind it's ass, and that the chopper you're in is not anchored to the ground, so it's that much more vulnerable to shaking. Duh....

Maybe you should just try very short bursts to keep it under control, and not shoot like a blind rookie.

[decep3107]

@utubepredator Uh, negative, ghostrider... The range of the gun is in this game is modeled very unrealistically. I know how guns work, thanks for the lesson though. The EFFECTIVE range for an M230 is 1500 meters, which means that you are able to put rounds on target ACCURATELY. I was engaging targets in this video at 200 meters. There is a nice way to explain things (incorrectly, in your case), and you chose to be a total douche... Thanks for watching.

[utubepredator]

@decep3107 I've been called a douche before :)

Now seriously, in the few games I got my hands on I try to set it as difficult/realistic as possible. For all the frustration you often get from what developers consider realistic, you end up trying different new strategies, as you can't always rely on your 'skills'. I'm looking forward to playing this, once I convince myself to change my old lady for a new one.

[decep3107]

@utubepredator Sorry for droppin the D word on you man, lol... I was just frustrated with the game. No hard feelings

[boresightlock]

@decep3107 utubepredator is right. Controlled burst. Helps to expand and zoom in as well. Remember the apache's 30mm is not a rifle with a scope mounted. The shake will not increase when you zoom in - aircraft vibration is consistent. It makes it more accurate because the computer optical assistance makes it more accurate. It will be more accurate if you utilized the fov modes properly.

[OneNeutrino]

@utubepredator You couldn't be more wrong. That shaking is so unrealistic, it makes me wonder how much of a simulation this actually is. First of all, the 30mm is mounted about 6 feet aft of the sight system. They are not attached to each other. Second, the weapon system is stabilized and vibration gets absorbed by the weapons mount, and then the airframe via absorbers.

This reminds of me of Arcade shooters like Battlefield 2 or CoD, where weapons are modeled wrong to make the game harder...

[Videowatcher198]

I can't say much about the shaking, but each bullet from an apaches 30 millimeter cannon packs a 4 meter bursting range so accuracy isn't that much of a problem in my opinion

[decep3107]

@Videowatcher198 In real life yes, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be modeled in this game (the damage radius).

[xMountainDoox]

It's shaking because you're firing a 30mm from an Apache. You look at other real videos and it is shaking in such a way. This was very accurate to have done this.

[xMountainDoox]

Is this game sold at walmart? Please reply.

[decep3107]

@xMountainDoox Not the PC version, only available online from YuPlay. The 360 and PS3 versions might be however...

[xMountainDoox]

@decep3107 Alright, I figured that I could just buy this game from Steaam or whatever. I'll for sure be getting it for my PS3. Thanks.

[gabrocki]

@xMountainDoox ps3 version from steam? didnt know thats possible

[xMountainDoox]

@gabrocki Nono. PS3 version from Wal-Mart is what I meant.