Stef, a hotboxed dorm room is when you close the windows and doors and smoke marijuanna in the room so the smoke stays trapped inside. Its a gross thing that young pot smokers get a kick out of.
Alternatively, you could do a jamaican shower. That is the same thing except in a bathroom with a hot shower running so the room fills with steam also.
How do I know this? Dont ask LOL
Good video, and I agree about all the 'noise'. I personally wouldnt respond to as much of it as you do.
I got something stef, the criticisms are not relevant to what the criticizer(s) is/are trying to criticize. It is like watching small bottom feeders nipping at some sunken trash, really missing the forest for the trees by blurting out self-gratifying non-sequiteur statements that only a really loose attention whore of ill repute could so seduce and leave you with bewildering statements of intellectual agnosticism. Keep at it Stef!
I appreciate the "accountability" discussion around minute 26. For me, recognition of the lack of accountability was the final straw to end my life-long delusion about statism. I'm STILL shocked and dismayed that the public at large YAWNED at the reality of Bush torturing people--an act I would have thought was PROFOUNDLY contrary to everything America is supposed to stand for, and one that I could never previously have IMAGINED could evade accountability.
This could be a series called "stefbot pwns newbs."lol (I don't want to be a newb so I;ll define newb in this context. It is somone who isn't very good at philosophic argument from first principle.)
@Equity213 Perfect analogy. It made me chuckle. The analogy can be extended in that the average person knows 0 pro gamers (unless they live in Korea) so to get your ideas out there, you've got to pwn nublets.
You know I kinda thought you were being an arrogant dick in the beginning of the video when you used the Simon Cowl anology, but after hearing some of the bullshit remarks people made, I think it is valid. Because of course we need government to take care of us and wipe our asses for us. *Sarcasm mode deactivated*
Atheism do not comes from "fact". God exist and that's a 'real' fact, which was well proved be Aristotle or Thomas Aquinas, not to mention others philosophers. Try once to knock down their's arguments instead still saying that "that is not a argument or proof" - I know that what I've been proposing to you since some time is not what you would like to get, but - in the other hand - as philosopher you cannot say something, which is contradict if philosophy itself, and God's existence is one of the
@TerrierBram Actually it is called the Bilderberg group, named after the hotel they had their first conference at. Please don't try to school me on these type of things. Or was that just a petty jab because I made a spelling mistake?
10:10, Don't sweat it, that's a weak insult. Billy Crystal's City Slickers speech was pretty damn cool, probably the best part of an otherwise milquetoast movie.
I think you went a bit harsh on the guy who said you "believe" some things, saying that that's the wrong word to use. Yes, you propose statements based on information-source inference chains which to a high probability can be counted as evidence (insofar as they converge, which not all studies do). However, you yourself say in the video "I believe that" (28:39) when talking about a well-reasoned position you hold. It's just something people say. The source of the belief is what's important.
Stef, you said you dont believe in 'rights'. Can you elaborate, or point me to a video explaining what you mean? I assume you mean 'rights' as those that are GIVEN to individuals by their govt/state. ?
If that is the case, the Rights expressed in the founding documents of the united States, are rights endowed to every individual by their creator. I know you dont believe in God, so you could say, Rights afforded to you by virtue of your very birth.
I don't like the video - The story of your enslavement. It feels too aggressive, like you are jabbing a finger in my forehead and shouting "Look, you dumb animal you're being farmed!". I know the content of the video is true because I have prior experience of applying its logical arguments from first principles. And I still find it offensive. Expecting to provoke anything other than ill considered emotional repsonses by aggressively calling people out will not further the argument.
I like you, Stef, but you always, in any disagreement I've had with you, simply refer me to a video or series in which I have already previously disagreed with you.
Simply put, you deal with disagreement with authoritative manoeuvring and political gesturing, which is ironic, given you distates for politics.
I've never encountered you website; why should I, you entertain no disagreement.
@7:09 - Ta-da! you dumbass, we ALREADY have those things without any kind of centralized planner or authority! Is he seriously postulating that there IS some kind of global centralized planning office that organizes the worldwide market? A shadowy cabal of do-gooder government commissars that orders about the thousands of private companies and exchanges that do exactly what he is talking about? That certainly sounds like the kookiest conspiracy theory I've ever heard.
Statists, like religious folks, always want to argue w/i the confines of their little mental boxes.
Religious folks proceed from the assumption that god is real and that the Bible/Koran/etc. is "his word". Statists, too, proceed from faulty assumptions that assume the validity of things like the "social contract" and arbitrary court decisions/statutes enacted by strangers--oftentimes from 100's of years ago.
Very few can even FORMULATE arguments against anarchy.
I am also an anarchist, I call it social libertarian, i wish you would stop using the analogy of maths for philosophy as it asserts that math is like philosophy. do do, do do do.
Keep doing your thing...the internet gives these people license to be ignorant and confident at the same time. As much as I would like to disregard them as just gnats or mosquitoes, I have a feeling that as the economy and our political / social structures break down over the next few years, we will have to defend against them as their ignorance turns to reactionary panic... and a search for whoever promises to take from "Them" and give to "Me"....the gun in the room becomes less figurative...
Excellent Video Stefan. I find myself in a lot of the same situations when people argue from "emotion" or fail to even have a premise. You understand semantics very well and that is a lost trait in our culture. My main concern for philosophers like you is that you might be too obsessed with the argument and NOT the truth. In other words, being a complete human being. We too often, become slaves to logic and reason alone. The real Truth can NOT be found this way. Anyways, God Bless and good luck.
@stefbot I don't see how those are concepts, I think when monkeys take out life insurance they will have proven their understanding of the concept of death
So the basis for the concept of death depends upon the ability to prevent it or do something about it in some fashion. So are we to assume that animals don't try to preserve their own lives? Or should we conclude that poor people don't have a concept of death because they can't afford insurance?
@mysweetverona Statement one: Straw man. You have no idea what my philosophy states. I don't think you have studied it and you haven't asked me about it.
Statement two. That is not been proven. Everything follows laws. What is the origin of those laws?
Accordinlgy your conclusion is just plain wrong.
Note: by and large we are very much fellow travelers in the political sphere. There are many anarchists out there that are intellectualy vacuous as there are religious people who are.
While the ideas presented in the video they're commenting on, DO come off as at least a bit conspiratorial, obviously that doesn't effect whether or not said points are true or false; what matters is the evidence.
And sorry if I come off as the folks posting on that board who didn't provide any substance.
In my defense, I'm still digesting this stuff, and learning.
@mysweetverona No I don't. I have a philosophy that is based on different premises that yours are and that is not the same thing as saying that it is "flawed." Science, especially the philosophy of science as articulated by Popper, is ultimately a human endeavor and as humans are fundamentally flawed it implies that science is thus likewise. You are close to be straw man bashing! Be careful. There are no "facts" that contradict the concept of God. Just people's opinions who don't like it.
@mysweetverona I am religious. I think that it is VERY rational to believe in God. I am not of the Evangelical stripe so if you want to know what and how they think then I think you should ask the best thinkers in that camp. And please, don't be dismissive. That is only bigotry.
@mysweetverona That is not the point. It all stems from one's a prioi. All philosophies are, by definition, rational schools of thought. A prioris are decided upon for rational reasons and then the philosophy is extrapolated from them. If their basic premises are different, that doesn't make them less rational. I will admit that a lot of people do not understand why they think a certain way as they don't spend the time thinking on it. But that hardly makes them irrational.
Hey stefbot i think you are wrong about only humans thinking about death.
Elephant are amazingly do you know that elephant will stop if they see bones of other Elephants and not if it is another Animal. They will also sometime buried their dead and will retrun to the exact spot the elephant die. They are also known to do death ritual when a clan member has die. That some Scientists often argue the extent that elephants feel emotion. You tell me if we are the only ones who might fear death.
@mysweetverona I think that humans are fundamentally rational. Everything they do they think they have a rational reason for. Where I think that you are flawed is in thinking that because they don't think like you, they are irrational. They may not be as deep in their analysis but all people are rational.
I think that the best point you made here was deflating the notion that all opinions are of equal value just because someone opens their mouth and spouts one. Take for instance medical opinions: If all opinions are equal then when my doctor says in his opinion I have malaria and the old lady next door says she thinks I just have a cold I am supposed to accept both as equally valid? They can both be wrong, but they can't both be right.
Hi Stef, I have a complete reverence for the work you do, you should be so proud of the foundations you're laying for the generations to come.
You utterly destroyed all of those negative responses using the methodology of Philosophy. It's a real shame that the people who wrote those responses haven't yet developed the capacity for critical thought, or provided any rationally consistent counter arguments, to disprove what they attack. This is so typical, It would be funny if it wasn't so sad!
Haha, I wouldn't worry about these reactions. I reacted in pretty much the same way. But then I started watching more videos, listen to podcasts and then I started getting it. Some will do the same.
Hmm, I guess this is something a lot of people have problems with, myself included. It seems hard to me, not to argue with some of these statements. Even though, as you expose in this video, a lot of them don't have an argument behind them and are basically just a way of putting you down. Personally, I tend to embark on an argument with one person and eventually I get tired of arguing because the person starts repeating himself. I'll try to be more critical when choosing comments to respond to.
HAHA Stef this video was hilarious! You seem to be facing the same criticisms on Youtube. Also, I must ask, did you light one up before this? Anyway great job defending truth.
here's a question. I hear you emphasize philosophy and your philosophy training quite a bit in thei video response. You state 'there is no God'--Now I dont think of myself a theist OR an a-theist, but I do feel there are deeper modes of being that one could call spiritual and ecstatic, do you? Do you take them seriously?
I am social libertarian, and haha, people are dumb, what the fuck are you doing in this response? Also your recent guest who was an atheist sounds like he was angry at god and i am sure you did not miss this point. and...Pacifism is a lie and the only state that exists is the family that owns the media, the oligarchs of our world, they also own the banks in all but five countries. Haha, "I took a massive pay cut to talk about philosophy" classic mate. :) I cut my options 4 friends by being real.
The "social safety net" is a prison to those who don't need it. It's a forced enclosure, not a helping hand. The lack of accountability for Bush and his war in Iraq against WMD should convince statists of the depravity of big govt. Bush and his advisors initiated a war which killed thousands, claiming it was self-defense, but then no evidence of violent initiation or any means of it was found. Normally, Bush and his advisors would go to jail, for murder, but we give govt officials a pass.
I have to say I'm usually disappointed when you make videos like that because they do make you look like a crank. Although you do use reasoning you tend to leave out the meat and resort to emotional appeals. Although these appeals are often justifiable I don't think it helps persuade sceptics, but rather makes them glaze over.
@sharperguy There was one time when I was attempting to find one of your more in-depth videos to introduce a friend into your ideas, and they jumped to watch your cover video which at the time was the Truth Behing the Matrix part 2. They instantly dismissed it without even getting into the entire video, and I could see myself giving it a miss if I was not already strongly familiar with the ideas behind it.
Actually quite a few animals mourn the death of social members, your philosophy obviously doesn't include animal psychology, how do you know what animals think ? what is your assumption based upon ?, wishful thinking and ignorance by any chance ?
@RevDevilin I'm not sure if you're replying to a comment here or to the video itself, so I won't assume anything, but I thought I'd point out that when Stef said "only humans fear death", he doesn't mean only we fear dying (why would they run from lions?), he means that only humans consider something "after" life, at least that we know of. If we find that some animals are capable of such abstract thought, well, that's a different story.
@N7a7v7i Transcribed "animals do not fear death as a concept they do not understand death as a concept" ;-)
"If we find that some animals are capable of such abstract thought, well, that's a different story"
Some animals do demonstrate abstract thought, including , mourning the death of social members, a sense of fairness in social groups, compassion, thinking ahead, groups of weaker monkeys, collaborating to oust a disliked alpha male, the list is pretty large
@RevDevilin I don't see how those are concepts, I think when monkeys take out life insurance they will have proven their understanding of the concept of death :)
Neanderthal a separate species to us Homo neanderthalensis, used to bury their dead with ornaments, and assuming you haven't taken the stance of traditional ancient philosophers by sticking your fingers in your ears while repeating the mantra I'm not listening,while I say try studying animal psychology, before taking a stance on animal psychology ;-), you might accidentally learn something about human psychology, and philosophy while you're doing it ;-)
@stefbot abstract thoughts are concepts. if the thoughts weren't abstract they'd be perceptions. Language is an abstraction. Some animals have language. So animals are able to have concepts.
Some people should you know WATCH the video and also LISTEN at the same time, its a shame that people on the internet are advertising their ignorance instead of, you know use it to something good.
lol, seeking a doctor for your ears and brain is bleeding. Hopefully you have enough of your senses intact in such a case that one can hastily follow your advice.
a hotboxed-dorm-room rap session on the meaning of life means...smoking marijuana and then singing a rap song that is made up on the spot (freestyling) about the meaning of life. basically he's saying you suck. :(
Within the first five minutes of watching this video, I thought, "Stefan, why are you wasting your time, casting your pearls before swine, attempting to defend your position from trolls and feebs?" But, after watching a for few more minutes I realized that this video is exactly what he should do to make this world a better place to live. Hopefully, it will help the clueless, undereducated, common person. He addresses the masses, and answers their specific questions concisely. Sail on, Stef.
Yikes. Just read through the metafilter post - amazing how much completely thoughtless, rigid, and self-righteous snark is out there. The glass is most certainly half empty. (and I'm pretty sure the liquid is actually urine)
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell
I think that these people don't want to 'open their eyes' and see the truth about the current situation of society, so they automatically decide not to listen to the arguments from the beginning and they just pick out phrases that sound similar to political phrases and they bash those based on which side of the 'political system' they favor. I think that their minds are closed from the start.
Stefan brings to light the freedom perspective to many complicated social issues. People are so caught up in trying to force fixes on society they don't seem to care about freedom or liberty. In fact, they see freedom as chaos and insist that without government guiding our lives we would be at each other like starved wolverines. I find if very sad that so many people have such little faith in their fellow man. Thank you Stef. You inspire us to live free while working to free the enslaved.
I have just read the whole post at Metafilter and (after about 2 hours of reading) i have come away with one key question, does a group have more rights than the individual? Or (put another way) can the majority impose their beliefs and rules onto a minority?
@kevbrav Interesting question. My questions would be: how would the majority 'impose' their beliefs? What happens to those who don't comply? In the current system, they are aggressed against (threat of jail or death if they resist). Is there a non-violent way to get compliance? Another question: How many people believing something does it take for it to be true? Does an idea become true once 51% believe. Or is truth independent of who believes it. If so, how can majority rule be just?
8:30 amen to that one , so often I get that reaction of ' you must have a soloution if youre going to point out the problem' . Truth is we dont have to , we are allowed to comment on and analyse the problems without that pressure.
What the??? I looked at the comments, they all seem to be coming from one unified mind.
Like the borg queen set loose her drones to criticize Stefs work and they all pretty much say the same thing using as much variation as their cyborg minds would allow. Im confident that Stef would DESTROY any of them in a political or any debate. Criticism from the high minded ignorant is actually quite entertaining to dissect, if you can stomach it. =) Metafilter.... never heard of that in over 10 years
This is like watching several blindfolded children, armed with spoons, attack an adult with an automatic rifle. Thanks for swatting these mosquitoes, Mr. Molyneux.
Only an extraordinary intellect should attempt to argue points with Stefan Molyneux. How many people would take the trouble to respond to sometimes idiotic comments and criticisms - with patience, thoroughness and humour?
I know better than to get into a confrontation with you Stef - I am too busy opening my mind and learning right now - and there is SO MUCH to learn!
@overseasexpert - I'm with you. I'd love to be able to think like Steph! I wouldn't necessarily think about the same things, but for those things that do concern me, I'd like to write and converse about them with the rigour, insights, generosity, humour and background knowledge he invariably brings to his work here. Is there a shorter cut to this sort of intellectual agility than constructing a detailed logic tree to analyse Aristotle as part of a full degree?
Sadly I don't think it is possibly to take a short cut. This has been Stef's life and he gave up a lot to take it on. It is too late for me - but maybe not for you?? I shall just continue to listen and learn.....
It sounds to me like you are already well on the way! As for those dissenters - it is their loss if they cannot open up to the logic of someone like Stef.
@overseasexpert - Yup. No short cuts. I accept that and was engaging in wishful thinking. I'm 61 and my brain's operations have settled in a comfort zone that's pretty well adapted to getting along as I have been doing. But these habit-contrained operations are not conducive to genuinely new ways of thinking - just old ways of dealing with new subject matter, novel events and new relationships. Like you, incidentally. I'm not in the USA.
I am also "mature" but the mind is still young enough to crave more and more education. I am a recent convert to current politics and the scandal of the big banks and the Illuminati in the USA and here in the UK. Some days is all seems too much - but that doesn't last long. A dose of Stef Molyneux or Free Talk Live or Gerald Celente (to name but a few) quickly puts me back on track.
I had to admit a long time ago that I may be intelligent but I am no philosopher.....
@overseasexpert I don't think it requires extraordinary intellect, to argue points with Stef, especially since i don't think he is of extraordinary intellect. He just uses what intellect he has in a more logical way than most people. Also, it doesn't matter how smart someone is when it comes to the truth. The content of the arguments is all that matters.
I should still like to be able to argue a point with the clarity and confidence of Stef. I have to disagree that the truth is all that matters in an argument for instance in a discussion between an aggressive person and a peaceable one - which is me! If exposed to an overload of aggression I no longer hear the truth and will retreat from the aggression rather than the content - and I am not alone in this. I have never seen Stef get aggressive - he doesn't need to.
What I don't get is - why do so many people feel a need to defend their learned beliefs?
From the very first podcast (an into to libertarianism?) I felt absolutely NO need to defend mine. With a little bit of thought, they just crumbled to dust.
7:12 these people are really annoying, who criticise only for the sake of criticism and blaming anarchists/libertarians for "not providing an alternative which could organize bunch of people" yada yada yada. It only shows how narrow their thinking is because they do not accept when someone points an error in their thinking. Like Stef said in 8:08
What a tasty morsel to enjoy this morning. I very much enjoyed hearing your carefully reasoned and measured responses. I am consistently impressed by the constructive way you handle criticism and attempt to help people to prevent them from being hoist by their own petards. Respect.
Metafilter is full of insecure pseudo-intellectuals whose main sport is to exercise their sarcasm to belittle anyone who attempts to step outside the hive mind.
"We live in a system which has outsheeped the sheep. At least the sheep need a sheepdog to frighten them. The human herd polices itself" - David Icke
The good thing about bad philosophy is that is eventually self-destructive. It either makes the issuer look irrational, indifferent to the truth, or evil.
Very interesting video. It seems that there are many people of a certain mindset that is "condemn first" and "ask questions/research later, if at all."
I can't help but think that many of these people have been exposed to so much political and philosophical nonsense that they have allowed their past experiences to soil their image of philosophy as a whole. This is especially evident in comments using loaded words like "conservative" or "liberal".
By the way, regarding your Socrates video, perhaps you would like to read a 9000+ word essay of mine that deals with much of what you danced around in your Socrates monolouge - using evidence from the original texts, translated of course and also from Waterfield and others. You misrepresented Socrates and his relationship to the state - this is a serious fault of those videos.
Apologies for the dismissive sounding tone, but it is not far removed from your comments to us, the 'ignorant'
@Textra1 Thank you. I am very interested in making such a video if there would be an interest in it. I don't have a very good speaking voice but I guess the essay could speak for me. I'd have to edit a lot of my background material however, it comprises 2000 words of the essay and deals more with Socrates' society than the man himself.
I don't claim to be scholarly, only sensible in my conclusions, which are quite the opposite of stefan's who views Socrates as a victim
Your research is solid and I have found no flaws in your statistics.I just wish you were not such a flaming Right-Winger.The Meta-Filter guys really picked up on that quickly.
3:36 You are wrong, look up what happens when elephants die, there is a deep emotional connection between the members of the herd, they grieve for the loss.
Look up "Elephants Mourning" on the national geographic you tube channel.
What animal does that remind you of?
Perhaps it is you who needs the evidence, "rather than just emotionally charged statements"?
This is not noise by any means - perhaps you would kindly respond, you have never once adressed my concerns about your Socrates video.
@MrWafflesMonster Well, there is a little something called, oh, what was it again? MISINFORMATION. What is it with people thinking that because a person is making an argument, they HAVE to know every bit of info, and can't go back and correct themselves if they find a new piece of info, or change their minds.
I cannot speak for the poster, but I think what he meant by calling you 'Molyneux' and not Stefan was a way to refer to you on a professional level. He was referring to the philosopher. When I speak of authors and philosophers, I do not call them Immanuel when I intend to speak about the ideas of Kant.
I think the reason why people mistake name calling for an argument, is that their opinions were formed because of name calling. What goes in, comes out. They assume others operate the same way as they do/did, so they apply tactics that would work with them, or mostly worked with them.
Elephants bury their dead. Chimps mourn the dead. Many animals fully understand and are mindful of death. Humans on the other hand are the only ones with perception of time and watch the clock like a countdown.
Stef has little ability to see the perspective of others. "That's not an argument..." Did anyone start their posts saying "Here is my doctoral dissertation proving that Stef is wrong?"
Stef, your detractors think themselves just as warranted to dismiss your claims as you think yourself warranted in dismissing theirs.
People usually post just to express themselves, and communicate with others with the ears to hear.
They're not *bothering* to refute you. Get over yourself.
Then why don't they offer this "warrant"? I think he spent too much time on a bunch of snarky little bitches with no real argument, just trying to show off at how good they are at making.. bitchy comments, to feed their little egos. Why don't you get over yourself instead?
@buybuydandavis I think you are missing the main ingredient to what stef has reiterated numerous times. Stef shares his experience(sic), would be my term, because it cannot be said that everything spoken is a fact. Although "proven to be accurate" would be a justified usage, I think. If that were the case then there would be little point in debate, unless it was just to pat one another on the back. Then again philosophy may not be about who is right and wrong, but who can show the most logic.
I am in awe of how easily and modestly you are able to absorb and/or deflect criticism. It seems you are willing to give even the most low vibrational, uncultured heathens a chance to engage in a meaningful dialogue. Bravo!
Stef, I want to thank you for what you do here. I have not been trained how to think through a problem, but I am learning. You are a good teacher. Thanks
"...this Freedomdomain Radio thing, ... really amounts to a staunch endorsement of the status quo", it's pretty clear what he's saying here and it's a complete load of bollocks. FDR is against the status quo in: education, child-rearing, taxation, government subsidies, banking, law enforcement, the judiciary, drug laws, sex laws, international trade and so many other things it's hard to list them all.
@stefbot While ideas that animals do not understand death (among other things) is based in a human exceptionalist view of the world, it is not entirely without merit. (Yes, I am begging the question of human exceptionalism)
The difference is that their strengths within the natural world lie in different areas that are not geared towards such thoughts. Animals, specifically mammals, understand far more than humans are willing to admit, they simply understand things differently than we do.
@stefbot I think what you are trying to say about the animals is that they do not stigmatize death as humans do. Animals understand and fear death to a degree; some even mourn their dead. They simply do not dwell on the idea as humans do. A humans strength within the natural world is its intelligence. As such, they lean towards thinking farther ahead than other animals.. In this come the realization of the end followed by the stigmatization of that thought.
please do not feed teh trolls.. love ya stef!
ChickenBossPirate 4 months ago
Stef, a hotboxed dorm room is when you close the windows and doors and smoke marijuanna in the room so the smoke stays trapped inside. Its a gross thing that young pot smokers get a kick out of.
Alternatively, you could do a jamaican shower. That is the same thing except in a bathroom with a hot shower running so the room fills with steam also.
How do I know this? Dont ask LOL
Good video, and I agree about all the 'noise'. I personally wouldnt respond to as much of it as you do.
Equity213 7 months ago
Thank you for helping clean up our language stef. Cheers.
asc9nd 8 months ago
I got something stef, the criticisms are not relevant to what the criticizer(s) is/are trying to criticize. It is like watching small bottom feeders nipping at some sunken trash, really missing the forest for the trees by blurting out self-gratifying non-sequiteur statements that only a really loose attention whore of ill repute could so seduce and leave you with bewildering statements of intellectual agnosticism. Keep at it Stef!
SlingSalsa 8 months ago
I appreciate the "accountability" discussion around minute 26. For me, recognition of the lack of accountability was the final straw to end my life-long delusion about statism. I'm STILL shocked and dismayed that the public at large YAWNED at the reality of Bush torturing people--an act I would have thought was PROFOUNDLY contrary to everything America is supposed to stand for, and one that I could never previously have IMAGINED could evade accountability.
GetMeThere1 10 months ago
These people really do need to think further back to the root of the problem before they start treating it like the solution.
Cacmypants 10 months ago
This could be a series called "stefbot pwns newbs."lol (I don't want to be a newb so I;ll define newb in this context. It is somone who isn't very good at philosophic argument from first principle.)
greenghost2008 10 months ago
@greenghost2008
I love Stef, but real pro-gamers dont waste their time pwning noobs.
Equity213 7 months ago
@Equity213 Perfect analogy. It made me chuckle. The analogy can be extended in that the average person knows 0 pro gamers (unless they live in Korea) so to get your ideas out there, you've got to pwn nublets.
tekproxy 6 months ago
“Philosophy is hard” …. LOL.
TerrierBram 1 year ago
You know I kinda thought you were being an arrogant dick in the beginning of the video when you used the Simon Cowl anology, but after hearing some of the bullshit remarks people made, I think it is valid. Because of course we need government to take care of us and wipe our asses for us. *Sarcasm mode deactivated*
Richman6625 1 year ago
Atheism do not comes from "fact". God exist and that's a 'real' fact, which was well proved be Aristotle or Thomas Aquinas, not to mention others philosophers. Try once to knock down their's arguments instead still saying that "that is not a argument or proof" - I know that what I've been proposing to you since some time is not what you would like to get, but - in the other hand - as philosopher you cannot say something, which is contradict if philosophy itself, and God's existence is one of the
metal87power 1 year ago
You know Stef, I might actually like you more if you stood outside the Bilderburg conference with a bullhorn :P
Richman6625 1 year ago
@Richman6625 It’s Bilderberg … hotel in The Netherlands, but anyway … lol.
TerrierBram 1 year ago
@TerrierBram Actually it is called the Bilderberg group, named after the hotel they had their first conference at. Please don't try to school me on these type of things. Or was that just a petty jab because I made a spelling mistake?
Richman6625 1 year ago
Stefbot owns them all!
"Libertarian-conservative bullshit" - good one!
metal87power 1 year ago
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Stefbot owns them all!
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Stefan Molynuex deserves to be compensated for being your target this year.
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eyejudgeeverything 1 year ago
10:10, Don't sweat it, that's a weak insult. Billy Crystal's City Slickers speech was pretty damn cool, probably the best part of an otherwise milquetoast movie.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
I think you went a bit harsh on the guy who said you "believe" some things, saying that that's the wrong word to use. Yes, you propose statements based on information-source inference chains which to a high probability can be counted as evidence (insofar as they converge, which not all studies do). However, you yourself say in the video "I believe that" (28:39) when talking about a well-reasoned position you hold. It's just something people say. The source of the belief is what's important.
xjj99 1 year ago
Wow stef, your intelligence matches your patience.
chardoc89 1 year ago
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chardoc89 1 year ago
It sounds like a tea-party in here.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
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HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
Stef "Patience" Molyneux
FDRspanish 1 year ago
Stef your the best keep it up.
sundancekid122 1 year ago
the bible says god hates homosexuality. god loves homosexuals, just like any other human being. but you dont care i guess.....
painterger 1 year ago
you are so awesome....
painterger 1 year ago
Stef, you said you dont believe in 'rights'. Can you elaborate, or point me to a video explaining what you mean? I assume you mean 'rights' as those that are GIVEN to individuals by their govt/state. ?
If that is the case, the Rights expressed in the founding documents of the united States, are rights endowed to every individual by their creator. I know you dont believe in God, so you could say, Rights afforded to you by virtue of your very birth.
Love your work. Just wanting to learn more.
Just1Spark 1 year ago 3
@Just1Spark part 1, watch?v=oQFBozyxWhY
part 2, watch?v=NAHf4vatlyE
SomethingSea1 1 year ago
I love these videos you've been making lately, Stef. Keep up the great work.
TheStig000 1 year ago
your quality of video differs stefbot.
Anyway good video.. just weird your quality shifts. experimenting with cams?
razoorsharp 1 year ago
I don't like the video - The story of your enslavement. It feels too aggressive, like you are jabbing a finger in my forehead and shouting "Look, you dumb animal you're being farmed!". I know the content of the video is true because I have prior experience of applying its logical arguments from first principles. And I still find it offensive. Expecting to provoke anything other than ill considered emotional repsonses by aggressively calling people out will not further the argument.
hazywho 1 year ago
I like you, Stef, but you always, in any disagreement I've had with you, simply refer me to a video or series in which I have already previously disagreed with you.
Simply put, you deal with disagreement with authoritative manoeuvring and political gesturing, which is ironic, given you distates for politics.
I've never encountered you website; why should I, you entertain no disagreement.
From a fan, an anarchist, and atheist.
Cailwyn 1 year ago
"Opinion-goo" - such a good phrase!
littlebier8 1 year ago
Stef, you have better things to do than argue with the stupidity of teh internets =(
tirephus 1 year ago 3
@7:09 - Ta-da! you dumbass, we ALREADY have those things without any kind of centralized planner or authority! Is he seriously postulating that there IS some kind of global centralized planning office that organizes the worldwide market? A shadowy cabal of do-gooder government commissars that orders about the thousands of private companies and exchanges that do exactly what he is talking about? That certainly sounds like the kookiest conspiracy theory I've ever heard.
littlebier8 1 year ago
I was shocked at the comment: "...know your enemy..."
Yeah, because folks who believe in the non-aggression principle REALLY are the ones you need to watch, eh?
I'm amazed at how much vile and senseless hatred is directed at libertarians by BOTH the right and left...govt-worshipping idiots.
ashane77 1 year ago 2
Statists, like religious folks, always want to argue w/i the confines of their little mental boxes.
Religious folks proceed from the assumption that god is real and that the Bible/Koran/etc. is "his word". Statists, too, proceed from faulty assumptions that assume the validity of things like the "social contract" and arbitrary court decisions/statutes enacted by strangers--oftentimes from 100's of years ago.
Very few can even FORMULATE arguments against anarchy.
ashane77 1 year ago
I am also an anarchist, I call it social libertarian, i wish you would stop using the analogy of maths for philosophy as it asserts that math is like philosophy. do do, do do do.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
@aghoranathi Why do you wish he would stop using analogies between different sciences?
andrewh817 1 year ago
to god or not to a god, that is the question. I respect your position although we both know that philosophically it is simply a choice. ie no proof.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
LOL at the Somalia comment...its incredible how often you get that back as an "argument".
ashane77 1 year ago
sorry u lost ur family stefan. 15 is young.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
Keep doing your thing...the internet gives these people license to be ignorant and confident at the same time. As much as I would like to disregard them as just gnats or mosquitoes, I have a feeling that as the economy and our political / social structures break down over the next few years, we will have to defend against them as their ignorance turns to reactionary panic... and a search for whoever promises to take from "Them" and give to "Me"....the gun in the room becomes less figurative...
logicChemist 1 year ago
Oh... well i guess most of those people didn't really watch your video or just shut their eyes and ears to its messages.
Anonymous247n 1 year ago
Excellent Video Stefan. I find myself in a lot of the same situations when people argue from "emotion" or fail to even have a premise. You understand semantics very well and that is a lost trait in our culture. My main concern for philosophers like you is that you might be too obsessed with the argument and NOT the truth. In other words, being a complete human being. We too often, become slaves to logic and reason alone. The real Truth can NOT be found this way. Anyways, God Bless and good luck.
illtunz 1 year ago
Damn, this process of going sane in an insane world is a fucking bitch of hardness...
Surhotchaperchlorome 1 year ago 2
@Surhotchaperchlorome It sure is.LOL
illtunz 1 year ago
@stefbot I don't see how those are concepts, I think when monkeys take out life insurance they will have proven their understanding of the concept of death
So the basis for the concept of death depends upon the ability to prevent it or do something about it in some fashion. So are we to assume that animals don't try to preserve their own lives? Or should we conclude that poor people don't have a concept of death because they can't afford insurance?
youtube watch?v=LTIElO2zdvY
hamblin31 1 year ago
@mysweetverona Statement one: Straw man. You have no idea what my philosophy states. I don't think you have studied it and you haven't asked me about it.
Statement two. That is not been proven. Everything follows laws. What is the origin of those laws?
Accordinlgy your conclusion is just plain wrong.
Note: by and large we are very much fellow travelers in the political sphere. There are many anarchists out there that are intellectualy vacuous as there are religious people who are.
steve0281 1 year ago
While the ideas presented in the video they're commenting on, DO come off as at least a bit conspiratorial, obviously that doesn't effect whether or not said points are true or false; what matters is the evidence.
And sorry if I come off as the folks posting on that board who didn't provide any substance.
In my defense, I'm still digesting this stuff, and learning.
Surhotchaperchlorome 1 year ago
@mysweetverona No I don't. I have a philosophy that is based on different premises that yours are and that is not the same thing as saying that it is "flawed." Science, especially the philosophy of science as articulated by Popper, is ultimately a human endeavor and as humans are fundamentally flawed it implies that science is thus likewise. You are close to be straw man bashing! Be careful. There are no "facts" that contradict the concept of God. Just people's opinions who don't like it.
steve0281 1 year ago
@mysweetverona I am religious. I think that it is VERY rational to believe in God. I am not of the Evangelical stripe so if you want to know what and how they think then I think you should ask the best thinkers in that camp. And please, don't be dismissive. That is only bigotry.
steve0281 1 year ago
@mysweetverona That is not the point. It all stems from one's a prioi. All philosophies are, by definition, rational schools of thought. A prioris are decided upon for rational reasons and then the philosophy is extrapolated from them. If their basic premises are different, that doesn't make them less rational. I will admit that a lot of people do not understand why they think a certain way as they don't spend the time thinking on it. But that hardly makes them irrational.
steve0281 1 year ago
Hey stefbot i think you are wrong about only humans thinking about death.
Elephant are amazingly do you know that elephant will stop if they see bones of other Elephants and not if it is another Animal. They will also sometime buried their dead and will retrun to the exact spot the elephant die. They are also known to do death ritual when a clan member has die. That some Scientists often argue the extent that elephants feel emotion. You tell me if we are the only ones who might fear death.
Johncalabro7 1 year ago
@mysweetverona I think that humans are fundamentally rational. Everything they do they think they have a rational reason for. Where I think that you are flawed is in thinking that because they don't think like you, they are irrational. They may not be as deep in their analysis but all people are rational.
steve0281 1 year ago
I think that the best point you made here was deflating the notion that all opinions are of equal value just because someone opens their mouth and spouts one. Take for instance medical opinions: If all opinions are equal then when my doctor says in his opinion I have malaria and the old lady next door says she thinks I just have a cold I am supposed to accept both as equally valid? They can both be wrong, but they can't both be right.
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akaslex 1 year ago
Hi Stef, I have a complete reverence for the work you do, you should be so proud of the foundations you're laying for the generations to come.
You utterly destroyed all of those negative responses using the methodology of Philosophy. It's a real shame that the people who wrote those responses haven't yet developed the capacity for critical thought, or provided any rationally consistent counter arguments, to disprove what they attack. This is so typical, It would be funny if it wasn't so sad!
akaslex 1 year ago
Haha pwned!
Sivels 1 year ago
Haha, I wouldn't worry about these reactions. I reacted in pretty much the same way. But then I started watching more videos, listen to podcasts and then I started getting it. Some will do the same.
Zerafinel 1 year ago
Hmm, I guess this is something a lot of people have problems with, myself included. It seems hard to me, not to argue with some of these statements. Even though, as you expose in this video, a lot of them don't have an argument behind them and are basically just a way of putting you down. Personally, I tend to embark on an argument with one person and eventually I get tired of arguing because the person starts repeating himself. I'll try to be more critical when choosing comments to respond to.
StephHuegi 1 year ago
HAHA Stef this video was hilarious! You seem to be facing the same criticisms on Youtube. Also, I must ask, did you light one up before this? Anyway great job defending truth.
t2491tom 1 year ago
here's a question. I hear you emphasize philosophy and your philosophy training quite a bit in thei video response. You state 'there is no God'--Now I dont think of myself a theist OR an a-theist, but I do feel there are deeper modes of being that one could call spiritual and ecstatic, do you? Do you take them seriously?
zezt 1 year ago
If I had a nickel for every "I'll front you to one-way ticket to Mogadishu" or some such similar tripe, I'd be a rich rich man.
Don't let the bastard get you down Stef. You are right and they are wrong.
And please, keep doing this, I love watching logic trump name calling.
johnycannuk 1 year ago
I found this video quite funny and as always I am learning from them at the same time :)
l2me3 1 year ago
I am social libertarian, and haha, people are dumb, what the fuck are you doing in this response? Also your recent guest who was an atheist sounds like he was angry at god and i am sure you did not miss this point. and...Pacifism is a lie and the only state that exists is the family that owns the media, the oligarchs of our world, they also own the banks in all but five countries. Haha, "I took a massive pay cut to talk about philosophy" classic mate. :) I cut my options 4 friends by being real.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
@aghoranathi Teach your daughter to cook yummier food? :P
aghoranathi 1 year ago
@aghoranathi Why should anyone listen to what you say you are dumb. And also you cannot be angry at something that doesn't exist.
t2491tom 1 year ago
@t2491tom funny, thnx.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
The "social safety net" is a prison to those who don't need it. It's a forced enclosure, not a helping hand. The lack of accountability for Bush and his war in Iraq against WMD should convince statists of the depravity of big govt. Bush and his advisors initiated a war which killed thousands, claiming it was self-defense, but then no evidence of violent initiation or any means of it was found. Normally, Bush and his advisors would go to jail, for murder, but we give govt officials a pass.
hughtub 1 year ago
@hughtub No, no pass, they should be killed.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
Also at this drunk moment in the morning I do not know why you would respond to retards.
Smile :)
aghoranathi 1 year ago
@kimwlias yes he does , and when pushed I find myself coming up with random soloutions too! however its not nice to have it demanded as a response
NeuroParadise 1 year ago
I get you, I am religious but I studied philosophy for five years, and you are the only philosopher I subscribe to on utub, :)
haha, people are dumb.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
Simon Cowell has minions. :P
aghoranathi 1 year ago
I have to say I'm usually disappointed when you make videos like that because they do make you look like a crank. Although you do use reasoning you tend to leave out the meat and resort to emotional appeals. Although these appeals are often justifiable I don't think it helps persuade sceptics, but rather makes them glaze over.
sharperguy 1 year ago
@sharperguy There was one time when I was attempting to find one of your more in-depth videos to introduce a friend into your ideas, and they jumped to watch your cover video which at the time was the Truth Behing the Matrix part 2. They instantly dismissed it without even getting into the entire video, and I could see myself giving it a miss if I was not already strongly familiar with the ideas behind it.
sharperguy 1 year ago
I also thought that this was going to be a waste of Stefan's time. Now that I'm at the end I think it was a useful exercise :-)
libertopian 1 year ago
Actually quite a few animals mourn the death of social members, your philosophy obviously doesn't include animal psychology, how do you know what animals think ? what is your assumption based upon ?, wishful thinking and ignorance by any chance ?
RevDevilin 1 year ago
@RevDevilin I'm not sure if you're replying to a comment here or to the video itself, so I won't assume anything, but I thought I'd point out that when Stef said "only humans fear death", he doesn't mean only we fear dying (why would they run from lions?), he means that only humans consider something "after" life, at least that we know of. If we find that some animals are capable of such abstract thought, well, that's a different story.
N7a7v7i 1 year ago
@N7a7v7i Transcribed "animals do not fear death as a concept they do not understand death as a concept" ;-)
"If we find that some animals are capable of such abstract thought, well, that's a different story"
Some animals do demonstrate abstract thought, including , mourning the death of social members, a sense of fairness in social groups, compassion, thinking ahead, groups of weaker monkeys, collaborating to oust a disliked alpha male, the list is pretty large
RevDevilin 1 year ago 6
@RevDevilin I don't see how those are concepts, I think when monkeys take out life insurance they will have proven their understanding of the concept of death :)
stefbot 1 year ago 5
@stefbot
Neanderthal a separate species to us Homo neanderthalensis, used to bury their dead with ornaments, and assuming you haven't taken the stance of traditional ancient philosophers by sticking your fingers in your ears while repeating the mantra I'm not listening,while I say try studying animal psychology, before taking a stance on animal psychology ;-), you might accidentally learn something about human psychology, and philosophy while you're doing it ;-)
RevDevilin 1 year ago
@RevDevilin - You just admitted that Neanderthal is a different species than Homo Sapiens, so what are you trying to prove?
"The concept of death"... so easy even a Neanderthal can know it... that sounds like a geico commercial.
tetraedronico 1 year ago
@RevDevilin ha, although I like the comment, a small detail, we're a mix of neanderthal and hom sap apparently
back in the day som o dem made love not war howzabout that eh??
anyhow you're right all the way bud : )
actually you could still be right on that detail...depends where you draw the line I suppose...
(: S
natmanprime 1 year ago
@stefbot abstract thoughts are concepts. if the thoughts weren't abstract they'd be perceptions. Language is an abstraction. Some animals have language. So animals are able to have concepts.
Where death is concerned, who's to say...
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime ;-)
RevDevilin 1 year ago
I think you just read only hater comments?
MirageScience 1 year ago
@MirageScience no, he didnt want to be accused of ignoring criticism , soe channels simply filter out all bad coments
NeuroParadise 1 year ago
Some people should you know WATCH the video and also LISTEN at the same time, its a shame that people on the internet are advertising their ignorance instead of, you know use it to something good.
Celedan 1 year ago
lol, seeking a doctor for your ears and brain is bleeding. Hopefully you have enough of your senses intact in such a case that one can hastily follow your advice.
lordmetroid 1 year ago
hahhahah
a hotboxed-dorm-room rap session on the meaning of life means...smoking marijuana and then singing a rap song that is made up on the spot (freestyling) about the meaning of life. basically he's saying you suck. :(
cyemekaray 1 year ago
Within the first five minutes of watching this video, I thought, "Stefan, why are you wasting your time, casting your pearls before swine, attempting to defend your position from trolls and feebs?" But, after watching a for few more minutes I realized that this video is exactly what he should do to make this world a better place to live. Hopefully, it will help the clueless, undereducated, common person. He addresses the masses, and answers their specific questions concisely. Sail on, Stef.
MrDorkusMaximus 1 year ago 21
Yikes. Just read through the metafilter post - amazing how much completely thoughtless, rigid, and self-righteous snark is out there. The glass is most certainly half empty. (and I'm pretty sure the liquid is actually urine)
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell
hrosemd 1 year ago 2
@hrosemd
Great quote! I think that describes the situation quite perfectly. :-)
TheCapitalistdog 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
this video fails
Trillasecond 1 year ago
I think that these people don't want to 'open their eyes' and see the truth about the current situation of society, so they automatically decide not to listen to the arguments from the beginning and they just pick out phrases that sound similar to political phrases and they bash those based on which side of the 'political system' they favor. I think that their minds are closed from the start.
RLore18 1 year ago 3
Stefan brings to light the freedom perspective to many complicated social issues. People are so caught up in trying to force fixes on society they don't seem to care about freedom or liberty. In fact, they see freedom as chaos and insist that without government guiding our lives we would be at each other like starved wolverines. I find if very sad that so many people have such little faith in their fellow man. Thank you Stef. You inspire us to live free while working to free the enslaved.
AndyWright68 1 year ago 20
I have just read the whole post at Metafilter and (after about 2 hours of reading) i have come away with one key question, does a group have more rights than the individual? Or (put another way) can the majority impose their beliefs and rules onto a minority?
kevbrav 1 year ago
@kevbrav Interesting question. My questions would be: how would the majority 'impose' their beliefs? What happens to those who don't comply? In the current system, they are aggressed against (threat of jail or death if they resist). Is there a non-violent way to get compliance? Another question: How many people believing something does it take for it to be true? Does an idea become true once 51% believe. Or is truth independent of who believes it. If so, how can majority rule be just?
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campaign4liberty 1 year ago
Stef, you enjoyed that entirely too much. haha
quietrune 1 year ago
8:30 amen to that one , so often I get that reaction of ' you must have a soloution if youre going to point out the problem' . Truth is we dont have to , we are allowed to comment on and analyse the problems without that pressure.
NeuroParadise 1 year ago
I would like you to expand on what the scenario looks like when private police and private armies exist and function.
jaymzdean 1 year ago
What the??? I looked at the comments, they all seem to be coming from one unified mind.
Like the borg queen set loose her drones to criticize Stefs work and they all pretty much say the same thing using as much variation as their cyborg minds would allow. Im confident that Stef would DESTROY any of them in a political or any debate. Criticism from the high minded ignorant is actually quite entertaining to dissect, if you can stomach it. =) Metafilter.... never heard of that in over 10 years
Iseeyoursoul 1 year ago
@Iseeyoursoul HA! Borg Queen,..nice
pandafuryface 1 year ago
@Stefan. One question.. what do you FEEL when people are negative (for whatever reason and with or without argument) about you?
Mikannika 1 year ago
This is like watching several blindfolded children, armed with spoons, attack an adult with an automatic rifle. Thanks for swatting these mosquitoes, Mr. Molyneux.
tapary 1 year ago
@tapary Please, call me Stef XD
CoWalsh04 1 year ago
YouTube should make the ability to rate commentators, maybe this will minimize the so much spew here.
shilohwillcome 1 year ago
Only an extraordinary intellect should attempt to argue points with Stefan Molyneux. How many people would take the trouble to respond to sometimes idiotic comments and criticisms - with patience, thoroughness and humour?
I know better than to get into a confrontation with you Stef - I am too busy opening my mind and learning right now - and there is SO MUCH to learn!
xx
overseasexpert 1 year ago
@overseasexpert - I'm with you. I'd love to be able to think like Steph! I wouldn't necessarily think about the same things, but for those things that do concern me, I'd like to write and converse about them with the rigour, insights, generosity, humour and background knowledge he invariably brings to his work here. Is there a shorter cut to this sort of intellectual agility than constructing a detailed logic tree to analyse Aristotle as part of a full degree?
Myrmecia 1 year ago
@Myrmecia
Sadly I don't think it is possibly to take a short cut. This has been Stef's life and he gave up a lot to take it on. It is too late for me - but maybe not for you?? I shall just continue to listen and learn.....
It sounds to me like you are already well on the way! As for those dissenters - it is their loss if they cannot open up to the logic of someone like Stef.
overseasexpert 1 year ago
@overseasexpert - Yup. No short cuts. I accept that and was engaging in wishful thinking. I'm 61 and my brain's operations have settled in a comfort zone that's pretty well adapted to getting along as I have been doing. But these habit-contrained operations are not conducive to genuinely new ways of thinking - just old ways of dealing with new subject matter, novel events and new relationships. Like you, incidentally. I'm not in the USA.
Myrmecia 1 year ago
@Myrmecia
I am also "mature" but the mind is still young enough to crave more and more education. I am a recent convert to current politics and the scandal of the big banks and the Illuminati in the USA and here in the UK. Some days is all seems too much - but that doesn't last long. A dose of Stef Molyneux or Free Talk Live or Gerald Celente (to name but a few) quickly puts me back on track.
I had to admit a long time ago that I may be intelligent but I am no philosopher.....
overseasexpert 1 year ago
@overseasexpert I don't think it requires extraordinary intellect, to argue points with Stef, especially since i don't think he is of extraordinary intellect. He just uses what intellect he has in a more logical way than most people. Also, it doesn't matter how smart someone is when it comes to the truth. The content of the arguments is all that matters.
andrewh817 1 year ago
@andrewh817
I should still like to be able to argue a point with the clarity and confidence of Stef. I have to disagree that the truth is all that matters in an argument for instance in a discussion between an aggressive person and a peaceable one - which is me! If exposed to an overload of aggression I no longer hear the truth and will retreat from the aggression rather than the content - and I am not alone in this. I have never seen Stef get aggressive - he doesn't need to.
overseasexpert 1 year ago
the dumbest people are always the loudest.
these emotionally charged (and obviously ego-driven) comments should not be taken as representative of the overall reaction to the video.
1schwererziehbar1 1 year ago
Dear Stef !
What I don't get is - why do so many people feel a need to defend their learned beliefs?
From the very first podcast (an into to libertarianism?) I felt absolutely NO need to defend mine. With a little bit of thought, they just crumbled to dust.
Am I weird?
nanciqwerty 1 year ago
26:14 hahaha oh I lol'd. The most retarded assertion ;D
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
@MaikUniversum heheheh you said ass heheheh
cuf53 1 year ago
@cuf53 oh shi--- :D
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
Uh-oh... if we "Philosophers" have become "the enemy", who are we fighting?
LordOfTheDreamTime 1 year ago
9:01 pwnd :D didn't notice it first, haha.
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
7:12 these people are really annoying, who criticise only for the sake of criticism and blaming anarchists/libertarians for "not providing an alternative which could organize bunch of people" yada yada yada. It only shows how narrow their thinking is because they do not accept when someone points an error in their thinking. Like Stef said in 8:08
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
What a tasty morsel to enjoy this morning. I very much enjoyed hearing your carefully reasoned and measured responses. I am consistently impressed by the constructive way you handle criticism and attempt to help people to prevent them from being hoist by their own petards. Respect.
gottogochild 1 year ago
Metafilter is full of insecure pseudo-intellectuals whose main sport is to exercise their sarcasm to belittle anyone who attempts to step outside the hive mind.
"We live in a system which has outsheeped the sheep. At least the sheep need a sheepdog to frighten them. The human herd polices itself" - David Icke
cybersphere 1 year ago
The good thing about bad philosophy is that is eventually self-destructive. It either makes the issuer look irrational, indifferent to the truth, or evil.
andrewh817 1 year ago
LOL
DickeyRogers 1 year ago
hey stefanski, don't worry about the naysayers. btw i like your vids even though i don't always agree with you
BadMonkeySyndrome 1 year ago
26:10 Accountability ? Huh ? That poster is clearly insane.
rayyf69 1 year ago
This stefan guy is a very switched on , intelligent human .
I think he might be a Genius .
justmyself991 1 year ago
@justmyself991 lol
tetrahydroscope 1 year ago
Very interesting video. It seems that there are many people of a certain mindset that is "condemn first" and "ask questions/research later, if at all."
I can't help but think that many of these people have been exposed to so much political and philosophical nonsense that they have allowed their past experiences to soil their image of philosophy as a whole. This is especially evident in comments using loaded words like "conservative" or "liberal".
andrewh817 1 year ago
By the way, regarding your Socrates video, perhaps you would like to read a 9000+ word essay of mine that deals with much of what you danced around in your Socrates monolouge - using evidence from the original texts, translated of course and also from Waterfield and others. You misrepresented Socrates and his relationship to the state - this is a serious fault of those videos.
Apologies for the dismissive sounding tone, but it is not far removed from your comments to us, the 'ignorant'
MrWafflesMonster 1 year ago
@MrWafflesMonster
Perhaps you could do a reading of the essay for us and post it at Youtube. I'd be interested in watching it.
Textra1 1 year ago
@Textra1 Thank you. I am very interested in making such a video if there would be an interest in it. I don't have a very good speaking voice but I guess the essay could speak for me. I'd have to edit a lot of my background material however, it comprises 2000 words of the essay and deals more with Socrates' society than the man himself.
I don't claim to be scholarly, only sensible in my conclusions, which are quite the opposite of stefan's who views Socrates as a victim
MrWafflesMonster 1 year ago
Your research is solid and I have found no flaws in your statistics.I just wish you were not such a flaming Right-Winger.The Meta-Filter guys really picked up on that quickly.
VCADD 1 year ago
3:36 You are wrong, look up what happens when elephants die, there is a deep emotional connection between the members of the herd, they grieve for the loss.
Look up "Elephants Mourning" on the national geographic you tube channel.
What animal does that remind you of?
Perhaps it is you who needs the evidence, "rather than just emotionally charged statements"?
This is not noise by any means - perhaps you would kindly respond, you have never once adressed my concerns about your Socrates video.
MrWafflesMonster 1 year ago
@MrWafflesMonster True, SOME animals understand death, but MOST don't, THAT is what he means.
Evnyofdeath 1 year ago
@Evnyofdeath No he said the we are "unique" in our fear of death. This automatically disproves the assumptio he did not mean all animals
MrWafflesMonster 1 year ago
@MrWafflesMonster Well, there is a little something called, oh, what was it again? MISINFORMATION. What is it with people thinking that because a person is making an argument, they HAVE to know every bit of info, and can't go back and correct themselves if they find a new piece of info, or change their minds.
Evnyofdeath 1 year ago
I cannot speak for the poster, but I think what he meant by calling you 'Molyneux' and not Stefan was a way to refer to you on a professional level. He was referring to the philosopher. When I speak of authors and philosophers, I do not call them Immanuel when I intend to speak about the ideas of Kant.
InfoGuerilla 1 year ago
I think the reason why people mistake name calling for an argument, is that their opinions were formed because of name calling. What goes in, comes out. They assume others operate the same way as they do/did, so they apply tactics that would work with them, or mostly worked with them.
modelmark 1 year ago 3
Hotbox=filling a small room with marijuana smoke
And sometimes you surprise me Stef. I have never bothered addressing trolls on the internet. These people don't care about an intellectual discussion.
cjet79 1 year ago
"Newsletter" is a Simpsons reference I think.
RuddODragonFear 1 year ago
You tell em Steph! Thanks as always.
overlordsshadow 1 year ago
Elephants bury their dead. Chimps mourn the dead. Many animals fully understand and are mindful of death. Humans on the other hand are the only ones with perception of time and watch the clock like a countdown.
Mahoivlich 1 year ago
Stef has little ability to see the perspective of others. "That's not an argument..." Did anyone start their posts saying "Here is my doctoral dissertation proving that Stef is wrong?"
Stef, your detractors think themselves just as warranted to dismiss your claims as you think yourself warranted in dismissing theirs.
People usually post just to express themselves, and communicate with others with the ears to hear.
They're not *bothering* to refute you. Get over yourself.
buybuydandavis 1 year ago
Then why don't they offer this "warrant"? I think he spent too much time on a bunch of snarky little bitches with no real argument, just trying to show off at how good they are at making.. bitchy comments, to feed their little egos. Why don't you get over yourself instead?
Moragauth 1 year ago
@buybuydandavis I think you are missing the main ingredient to what stef has reiterated numerous times. Stef shares his experience(sic), would be my term, because it cannot be said that everything spoken is a fact. Although "proven to be accurate" would be a justified usage, I think. If that were the case then there would be little point in debate, unless it was just to pat one another on the back. Then again philosophy may not be about who is right and wrong, but who can show the most logic.
Jbarrtndrsr 1 year ago
@buybuydandavis
i agree. comment sections are mostly for posting opinions and everyone is entitled to express his opinion without making a big argument.
also stef denies having views, and portrays his views scientific facts in this video. i don't find this healthy.
1schwererziehbar1 1 year ago
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qncsc 1 year ago
I am in awe of how easily and modestly you are able to absorb and/or deflect criticism. It seems you are willing to give even the most low vibrational, uncultured heathens a chance to engage in a meaningful dialogue. Bravo!
creamrising 1 year ago
Stef is so thin skinned! Well, that's good to know.
Many people have tried to herd the trolls on the internet Stefan, no one has succeeded.
fluff125 1 year ago
I really dont know how you can take reading all those comments... Most people are not able to understand their world...
l1xx3r 1 year ago
my brother is anti-christian and anti-gay, plenty of people are.... he's also a statist.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Stef, I want to thank you for what you do here. I have not been trained how to think through a problem, but I am learning. You are a good teacher. Thanks
azumaninjay 1 year ago
"...this Freedomdomain Radio thing, ... really amounts to a staunch endorsement of the status quo", it's pretty clear what he's saying here and it's a complete load of bollocks. FDR is against the status quo in: education, child-rearing, taxation, government subsidies, banking, law enforcement, the judiciary, drug laws, sex laws, international trade and so many other things it's hard to list them all.
newperve 1 year ago
Initiation of force is rational if I want to take away from you what you have and I don't.
Nomels 1 year ago
On certain definitions of rational. If you mean justifiable, that's exactly what's at stake.
Moragauth 1 year ago
@stefbot Different is not inferior.
humacyrnus 1 year ago
@stefbot While ideas that animals do not understand death (among other things) is based in a human exceptionalist view of the world, it is not entirely without merit. (Yes, I am begging the question of human exceptionalism)
The difference is that their strengths within the natural world lie in different areas that are not geared towards such thoughts. Animals, specifically mammals, understand far more than humans are willing to admit, they simply understand things differently than we do.
humacyrnus 1 year ago
@stefbot I think what you are trying to say about the animals is that they do not stigmatize death as humans do. Animals understand and fear death to a degree; some even mourn their dead. They simply do not dwell on the idea as humans do. A humans strength within the natural world is its intelligence. As such, they lean towards thinking farther ahead than other animals.. In this come the realization of the end followed by the stigmatization of that thought.
humacyrnus 1 year ago