Tibet ,a Response 2 Chinese Propaganda Vids on YouTube.Part2

[patrickmahoney]

To Dale157,

"blah, blah, blah"

Really, dude.... I only had to go to your channel to understand all of that. Your question was: "Do you take comments seriously." And, I responded (above) that I do, after pretending to tease you about seriousness.

I can see that was wasted time spent trying to help out, & be understanding.

[Dale157]

Ok, let's see what I have on my profile, "Peace, Friendship, Understanding, Respect, Freedom, ... CANADA ... Sorry if i didn't get back to you right away. I will try to reply asap. " I have not changed anything on my profile for at least a few months, and you got all those things about Han, Mao, Carrot, bribe, blah, blah, blah from those words? Are you kidding yourself?

[Dale157]

Don't tell me you got those ideas from other ppl's comments on my channel, because anyone can read would know those are comments left by other ppl. Among those comments my friends left, there are Chinese nationalists, anti-CCP ppl, Tibet independence supporters, Taiwan Independence supporters, etc...

[Dale157]

Look at your own words from beginning to the end, who is the one that is "blah, blah, blah"???

You really talk a lot of crap based on things only exist in your imagination, oh that's right, you are a writer of fiction, that's what you are good at, talk about things that do not exist.

"spent time trying to help out and be understanding"? Are you serious when you used the word "be understanding"? did you even ask my opinions on things? What a joke! read your own words, see how arrogant you are?

[Dale157]

oh btw, "pretending to tease you about seriousness", well, your joke really wasn't funny.

I can probably try to understand that you were trying to make a joke and be funny at the beginning, but your holier-than-thou attitude in the later part really helped to destroy your effort of making a good image of yourself. If you want to act as this moral authority, go lecture your own kids or start your own cult or sth, don't make fun of yourselves in front of strangers online.

[patrickmahoney]

Let me remind you, you came here (out of your way) to "make fun of yourselves in front of strangers online"

not me. I am simply trying to reply....and its a waste of time.

[Dale157]

i came here because you posted the video on youtube, and all i asked you at first was "do you take comment seriously", you can read your own reply. You really do like to make up things. It is indeed a waste of time talking to you.

[Dale157]

Do you take comments seriously?

[patrickmahoney]

Not from Han Chinese CCP operatives who hide in Canada ;-)

Btw, what was your substantive comment???

I think I take all comments seriously, because I spend a lot of time to consider them;&then respond. In your case, being Han is something U are proud of,&should be.The Han dynasty was a good time for China. But,Mao has misused your ethnic group to do great harm. With the "Carrot"/bribe of a renaissance of that time. But nothing good can come from foundations of destruction.Time2build,not steal

[Dale157]

I don't believe we have ever talked with each other before, and as you were asking what my comment was going to be since i did not talk about the content of your video, i doubt you knew my position on Tibet sovereignty, human rights or CCP, and you shouldn't assume my ethnicity or my political preference.

[Dale157]

I think it's great that you make these videos and tell people your opinions on these political issues. I am sure there would be things that we agree and disagree with each other. I enjoyed discussing with knowledgeable people about politics and made friends with many of them who hold opposite positions. You are welcome to tell me your opinions on different things as well, but don't be so ignorant and start lecturing others based on things that you assume they would support or object.

[Dale157]

btw, when you start a discussion by labeling others, or generalize people, they can do the same thing to you, but that's not going to be helpful with the discussion, isn't it? That's what little kids do when they argue, but i thought you look more educated than that.

[viethluu]

I am not sure about Buddhism phylosyphy. However, I know one true thing : China today becomes the success economics country, and its people lives better ( including Tibetant) than ever before. You just have to come to China and justify what I said by your own eye.

[patrickmahoney]

"lives better" is a subjective value judgment...that often, and especially in this case, is very wrong. The forced imposition of Chinese "economics" is resulting in the spiritual death of many millions, and the real death of much life....including the environment. Blind obsession for more things is the worst 'characteristic' of humans..something to be overcome, not encouraged to rampage proportions. I have been to China, and Tibet, and it is sad...no matter how many gleaming towers are built:-(

[tomatoandmushroom]

"lives better" a subjective value judgement? What about "forced imposition", "spiritual death", "blind obsession"; isn't that all just your subjective judgement then?

In a country that is growing and advancing, isn't it just natural to find gleaming towers? In almost every country in the world today we find these tall buildings everywhere, and what's to say when the U.S has about 20 times more?

[bg24955]

this is first time (in my life) i heard that genghis khan and his sons are the vanguard of humanity and religious enlightment.

you do live in different paradigm.

[patrickmahoney]

There is a lot about Asian History that Americans never get taught. Most is painted simplistically,and black&white.

In this case,Genghis Khan's sons were huge supporters of Tibetan Buddhists....establishing the Title "Dalai Lama" meaning "ocean of wisdom".Ashoka was also"converted"from his killing ways by Buddhism...&under his rule(the biggest kingdom ever...including Greece,India,China,Egypt,etc) Buddhism flourished in India(that pre-dates the Khans, of course)Genghis mellowed out in old age.

[lumeng2]

Too little new points for 3 sections of too long vids.

[joej2005]

You need to give solid facts, not just your words. Do you have anything like pictures, documents, films to support anything you said? I see none of them. Tha's why you can only make a video sitting in front of the table, talking..

[patrickmahoney]

Same comment, different log on....so same answer...READ THE BOOK. These Vids are based on objective, verified, facts.....with photographic proof as well. So, no matter how many times you try to discount/discredit with same lame comments, I will reply to every one.....so "Collateral Misinformation" doesn't happen. (hint: one aspect of propaganda, to discredit ANYTHING that contradicts the official "story".....no matter how silly that "story" is. Repeating, over and over...lies)

[pete1900000]

are you saying that the tibetan that live in the difficult environment made them stupid. so they can only believe in Dalai Lama blindly?

[patrickmahoney]

Yeah, that is exactly what I said. Wow, you are sooo bright....

thanks for the helpful feedback

Too silly......

:-)

[suntube2]

You need to give solid facts, not just your words. Do you have anything like pictures, documents, films to support anything you said? I see none of them. Tha's why you can only make a video sitting in front of the table, talking..

[patrickmahoney]

"Suntube2", I've answered all your questions. This is the 3rd exact post you make to each video. just so folks know, you need to actually watch the video to actually make a valid comment. The videos contain many pictures, refer the viewers to hundreds more, and there are roughly 700 pages of facts in my books......which are online so you can refer to them if you like. The URLs are in the videos. Can't type them in YouTube comments.....they don't accept URLS in comments.

[patrickmahoney]

This PART 2 of a three part video response to a few vids on YouTube that Gravely misrepresent Important Events/Abuses in Tibet and The Dalai Lama.

These propaganda Vids are being "promoted" up to give a false impression that they are popular views. Valid comments are maligned, deleted, marked as spam; &huge numbers of workers are online 24 hours a day, to shove the Lies in these Vids to millions of views.

[patrickmahoney]

This is the essence of Propaganda, repeat over and over, and make dissent not only embarrassingly uncomfortable (and/or painful) but also make you appear an "out of favor" minority. Peer pressure, promote division and anger of supposed "loss" to you, and a consistent....if laughable...message repeated over and over; until the listener just gives up trying....then, wonders... Once the seed of doubt is planted in poisoned soil, its encouraged to grow...reinforced by daily reminders.

[patrickmahoney]

"Breaking this cycle" is important. As silly as these accusations about The Dalai Lama and Tibetan Buddhists appear, these lies must still be refuted....lest they be believed ;-)

So, this 3part response video separates fact from fiction...and, gives a western perspective of What We Can Learn from HHDL and Tibetan Buddhists;

Helping us understand Why this "Spiritual Switzerland" must be preserved.

[patrickmahoney]

What can you do? Make comments if you like, and/or simply Boycott Chinese goods & The Olympics, until Tibetans are Free again to live life the way they want...without oppression, fear of recrimination/reprisal, prison, beatings, death, and cultural genocide/assimilation.

[patrickmahoney]

Thanks for taking time to examine these issues thoroughly.....you won't regret the effort. If open minded, we can learn a lot from the Tibetan Buddhist Culture/world. Lets be sure that like Mecca, Jearusalem, Rome, Salt Lake City, etc that Tibet can remain the center of the Buddhist Tradition. A "spiritual Switzerland" for generations to come.

[patrickmahoney]

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