Thy Will Be Done-New World Idolatry-Christian Thrash/Groove Metal

[razoredv]

Im not christian and nor do i care for the religion n they may be christians but they make brutal music \m/

[tenhundredkills]

@MyNutsAreCold. I don't care for for any of it. And by the way, spare me from that fictional "Lake of Fire" and whatever other religious bullcrap you want to throw. It's not like you actually mean anything by telling someone that a fictional concept is going to damn them forever. Fuck that so called "God" you like so much.

[MyNutsAreCold]

@tenhundredkills Satan may have made you bold in the face of truth, but you will learn. Before you die, you will drop to your knees and scream "MyNutsAreCold was right, for he is Lord!" Either that, or you'll just burn.

[tenhundredkills]

@MyNutsAreCold HAHAHA! This is too funny dude! First I'm an "Agent of Satan" and now I'm going to become an instant religious convert before I die! You've made my day. I find it amazing that you just happen to know my very own fate before I even know! Get over yourself; you damn zealot!

[MyNutsAreCold]

@tenhundredkills I bet you support a woman's right to choose as well. God help your soul.

[tenhundredkills]

@MyNutsAreCold I do support that. What someone else does with their body (regardless of gender/race/age/any other factor). I suppose you believe that the Earth was formed in 7 days and is under 10,000 years old. What else? Was the entire planet flooded for 40 days and cause the destruction of everything except some guy on a boat? Please get some sense into your head! Then again, it's really not my problem.

[tenhundredkills]

@MyNutsAreCold Why would I bother reading a book filled with nonsense? Earth created in 6 days? And you call me the imbecile...give me a break! By the way, don't bother with your "praying". It's not like anyone is going to answer you. As for removing your comment, it still shows up in my inbox, idiot. It's a stupid move on your part to get in the last comment. Then again, I shouldn't expect too much from someone who takes a "holy" book so seriously.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills Taking cheap shots and someone's closely-held beliefs won't get you anywhere. Continually saying that something isn't logical doesn't mean anything. There are plenty of illogical things that have happened on Earth in our history, so what is so hard to believe here? Millions of people can attest to the fact that, upon becoming saved, they are forever changed, filled with a soulful thirst. No one can say that about any other faith. And this is just one sign pointing to God.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal It's not taking cheap shots if I'm pointing out obvious flaws. As for the illogical things that have happened on Earth, most can be explained easily just by knowing the particular scientific and/or historical context of the situation. As those situations are explained, a omniscient/omnipresent higher being becomes difficult to believe in. On a final note, those that are filled with a "soulful thirst" upon being "saved", anyone of any faith can say that.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills Yeah it is taking cheap shots. You're assuming Christians to be inherently unintelligent just because they don't agree with your worldview, and are very open to make sure we know.

Science is a creation of God. Nearly anything can be explained by science, which is basically God's method of running the world. It should only serve as even greater evidence that because the world is so complex, it only makes sense that it was the product of a craftsman, a creator.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal You call it making a cheap shot when I point out a flaw or two simply because you disagree with me. Also, I'm not just saying this for Christians. This is for all religions which are inherently flawed because they are man-mad concepts. Just because the world is complex, it does not necessarily indicate that a "master creator" had to make it. As for science being a creation of God, it is not. MANKIND created science to explain the world around us.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills And not everyone can say that. I know because I've tried out all sorts of belief systems before. I've been Pagan, I've been an Atheist, I've been a Buddhist, and then I became a Christian. People always say that a spiritual thirst comes to life within a person once they're saved, but I never had heard that before. When I was first saved, I immediately felt the need to learn as much as I could about the God that I had just given my life to. Never before had I felt that thirst.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal Congratulations. You found something that you like. Just because a ideological concept works for you, it does not mean that it is automatically right for everybody else. Being an atheist makes sense to me as God does for you or Allah to Muslims.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills Ah but it's more than something I like. The world's hundreds of millions of Christians will tell you the same thing. The worlds hundreds of millions of Atheists? Probably won't say anything close. Nobody will say "I just felt so wonderful and instantly was changed" about Atheism.

However, I'm not one to push and push (though it is my video).

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal I wasn't talking about being proud of any particular beliefs. I was talking about being comfortable. Believe it or not, but one can like something without being prideful of it. As for "feeling wonderful and instantly changed", I wasn't instantly changed, but it is wonderful. Besides, most Atheists are guided by logic and rational thought rather than fickle emotions.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills We can follow the logic all day, you saying there's no possibility of a God, and me showing clear evidence that we weren't created out of chance. But it wouldn't go anywhere because neither party ever convinces the other of anything.

I don't think I ever mentioned pride. Being prideful is something that we actually are AGAINST.

When you marry someone, do you marry them based on logic, or instead how you feel about them? Would you rather love your wife than think....

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal I mentioned pride because you seem proud of your faith. Yes, you can have pride! It's an excessive pride/hubris that is not allowed. I at least though you would understand your own faith. You probably give some intelligent Christians a bad name.

As for marriage, it's a combination of logic and feelings. Emotions are inevitable and must be dealt with. As for logic, would I marry an idiot that has differing feelings/opinions than I do? No. Hence logic is involved.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills Really, give me a verse saying that we are to have pride in ourselves. The problem with pride is that all we do, we do through God. Therefore, to be proud of what we've done is wrong because we're giving ourselves credit when we wouldn't be able to do anything if God hadn't created us. It's fine to be proud of someone else, but to have pride in oneself is sinful. Ask any "intelligent Christian".

As for contradictions, give me examples.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal As far as I know, I don't know any verse that specifically states that you can have pride. But the issue is with overwhelming self-conceited pride to the point of hubris. If you do EVERYTHING through God and have to give Him all the credit, what's the point of doing anything? Denying yourself a natural emotion (that you think God gave you in the first place) is impossible.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills ....I was smoking pot all of the time. It's not as if I don't have opinions now. The Bible doesn't cover everything in life. I still like the same movies, books, TV, politics, and hobbies. The Bible says nothing about not thinking for yourself. Being a Christian is a choice. I believe what I believe; I'm not forced into anything. To not be a Christian would be lying to myself.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills 6.When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. Proverbs 11:2 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18

There are more if you need them.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills ...and nearly all of them are almost as complex as we are. Our planet is just the right distance from the sun to live safely upon. We are the only known planet that is known that carries life currently because of our placement. That's why we're called the "Goldilocks" planet.

Anyone could agree that our planet and its organisms are complex beyond imagination.

When you look at a book, or a house, or a car, what do you think about its origins?

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills Automatically you think it came from some company somewhere. There's barely any thought used whatsoever. You see the car and think "Oh that's a Toyota". This means that the car was made by someone (machines nowadays I guess but you get my point). You don't just assume that it came out of nowhere. Our Earth is the same. The only difference is that we're so much more complex than a car. So why do we decide that we're any different? It's mainly because we can't see our creator.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills However, with all of this evidence around us that someone had to create this place that we live in, that it didn't just spring up out of nowhere, we should know that seeing our creator isn't necessary. According to the Bible, God was able to be seen and spoken to audibly, up until man first sinned. All privileges were instantly taken from man, and they were meant to die now instead of living without sin forever. This caused all sin in our world.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal If I had a Bible on me I'd give you more contradicting verses:

Genesis 19:30-38 and 2 Peter 2:7

Matthew 5:32 and Mark 10:11-12

Matthew 6:13 and James 1:2-3

All from the King James Version to name a few.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills

1. Not much of a contradiction there. It wasn't his choice to lay with his daughters. They did it so that his bloodline would go on.

2. That's an add-on, not a contradiction. Jesus is showing multiple consequences of putting away your wife.

3. The first verse is a prayer for God to keep us out of temptation, while the other is saying basically that falling into temptation, trying our faith, strengthens our patience.

So, no valid contradictions here.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills On the topic of marriage:

If you were with someone who was an idiot with different opinions than you, you would obviously not feel love for him/her, I'd imagine? Therefore you wouldn't get married. Yes, logic is involved in observations when you're picking out someone to talk to at a bar, but no normal person would marry someone that they didn't love. Marriage isn't about what person is most logical for you, it's about who you love. Now, logic is onvolved too, but...

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills I think it would be better to continue this in PMs because it's a drag to keep commenting instead of making one long message. After you've gone over what I've told you already, feel free to message me with rebuttals or if you want I can keep going.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal I just read all of your comments and see "blah, blah, blah", as you do more than likely. As idiotic as I think you are, it is pointless to keep going. I'm not going to get through you and vise versa. I'm done with this petty argument if you are. Otherwise, I can go on for as long as I live. I really don't care.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills Really? What was wrong with my rebuttals so those "contradictions"? Do you still see them as contradictions? Whatever. I wouldn't expect you to admit that I raised any valid points. After all, Christians are inherently as dumb as cavemen, right?

I'm done as well. Goodbye.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal I still see them as contradictions and it is pointless to try to get that through to you along with my other reasons for my beliefs. As for being as dumb as a caveman, well you did answer your own question.

End of rant.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills ...that it's rational or logical to marry her? The evidence for God (I could give you evidence all day long) is coupled with the love that Christians have for Him. It's not all emotions (at least for those who question their beliefs from time to time) when you stand back and compare the Bible with history, archaeology and just plain logic.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal The Bible and logic? You've got to be kidding me. There are so many inconsistencies and contradictions in that stupid book that you put on such a high pedestal! This is especially true of the King James version! I've read the damn thing! It's part of the reason I stopped being a Christian.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills I used to find contradictions as well. However they were explained to me to the point where I understood that I was just misunderstanding them.

What makes me so unintelligent? Do you think that I'm some idiot hanging out in Georgia drinking moonshine? That the belief in a God completely overrides all common sense and knowledge within a person? I was unsaved for a long time before I was saved. Do you think I somehow went from normal one day to unintelligent the next?

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal How can a contradiction just be explained away as not being such? If a statement is a contradiction, it stays that way regardless of some explanation. As far as being changed in one day, it does seem like most people lost their ability to think for themselves. They'd rather have a book tell them how to live. You'd rather base your lifestyle on a stupid book than your own independent though? That just seems stupid.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills A contradiction can be explained away because it's not a true contradiction. A real contradiction would be if one verse said that God hates all people and another one said God loves all people. All cases that people have shown to me are either an add-on (like the second one you showed me), taken out of context, not understood correctly, etc...

I've lived like that before. That "book" taught me to be kind, courteous, respectful, and hardworking. Before was lazy and...

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills ...when you're talking about the Biblical God, it's emotions coupled with logic. You choose to ignore the logic behind it because you are probably surrounded by people who think that faith and logic don't mix. However, there is logic behind it, and I can tell you about it. Although I have a feeling that you'll ignore whatever I say.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal If there's logic behind this as you say there is, let's hear it. I'm in a curious mood today.

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills Okay, we can start with the simple argument over God's existence. This is one I know you've probably heard a hundred times, but it has its backing to it.

As you know, our world is astoundingly complex. Mass information that determines nearly everything about us is within everyone. We have a highly analytical brain that can go over all sorts of information and retain it as well as reject it using our judgement.

There are millions of species of living things on our planet...

[HolyChristianMetal]

@tenhundredkills And you can ask anyone else about it. Everyone I know who has been saved goes through the same thing, but I never hear the same of those who convert to Islam or Paganism.

[tenhundredkills]

@HolyChristianMetal I've met people that have been "saved" by both the Islamic and Jewish faith. So yes, Christians are not the only ones to be "saved" by a religion. Get over it.

[BMTHBFMV13]

stop bitching about your religion and whats going to happen and shit. just listen to the cool music

[MyNutsAreCold]

I couldn't care less if they're Christian. I listen to music because it makes me happy. If you dismiss a good band like TWBD on those grounds alone, you are a close-minded idiot.

[tenhundredkills]

@MyNutsAreCold It's really closed minded of you to bash those that disagree with your tastes in music. I didn't think that much of this song. There are other bands that play this style much better. Hypocrite.

[MyNutsAreCold]

@tenhundredkills Go look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary first before throwing it around. If you didn't like it, then you didn't like it. I was referring to people that dismiss the band because it's a Christian band. Try reading a little closer next time.

[tenhundredkills]

@MyNutsAreCold You're still a hypocrite for bashing those that don't care for Christan music and then calling them "closed minded". That seems a bit "closed minded" of you in the first place. How about looking up that definition hmm? You're a moron.

[MyNutsAreCold]

@tenhundredkills You don't care for Christian music? I suppose you don't care for your Lord and Savior either. A special place in the Lake of Fire awaits you, heathen. Agents of Satan are not welcome here.

[Railfan88]

One of my favorite songs on the album

[Bigulozzo]

black of

[jesusmetal92107]

sounds like living sacrifice a bit, but much more attention to rhythmic vocals. i like eet!

[volvvoraggarn]

yheeeee i love it

[Devilmutt3]

I got all there autgraphs on my devildriver shirt when they played in LA last week there fuckin awesome

[lynxvosmia]

why the hell are these guys on tour with Behemoth and Devil Driver? Just here sampling them. I'm not looking forward to sitting through them to get to the good bands. Vocal patterns are the same in ever song!

[mettalguy92]

is this band really christian... pls!! tell me not!.....

[HolyChristianMetal]

Is.

[7thTkdWolf]

@HolyChristianMetal they are not a christian band iv asked jay my self

[Railfan88]

@7thTkdWolf They are not a Christian band but he is and two other members of the band are!

[schattenseele88]

why are you really gonna trip on it tho? I'm Christian, and I still listen to bands like Darkthrone, Emperor, and Behemoth... good music is good music bro!!

[mettalguy92]

good music is good music indeed.... and i do believe in a supreme being, what bothers me is the bullshit and lies that christianity has build and said throughout the years.... thats why i dont listen to christian bands as much.... but this one definitively made it into my ipod

[LaserSocket]

@mettalguy92

Don't really care at this point. I love this band. I'm a follower of Christ, but dig their music..

[Dodo2896]

@mettalguy92 actually these screams can't be christian...they sound like coming straight from hell...i mean c'mon man....even if they are christians the music they play is not according to God's will...;)

[mettalguy92]

@Dodo2896 LMAO... YEA true, is just that i despise what false and i could not believe a band so awesome could be blind, but whatever, they are awesome!

[igottehgoodstuffz]

@Dodo2896 you are joking right? It's just music.

[RandomlineProduction]

@Dodo2896 lol lies.

[Dodo2896]

@RandomlineProduction haha yes this comment is about 4 months ago I've changed my mind now ;)

[RandomlineProduction]

@Dodo2896 oh sorry man :)

[Dodo2896]

@RandomlineProduction haha no problem bro ;)

[BOUKEBANDSTRA]

@mettalguy92

why not?

christian metal can also be awesome music

[Terminal331]

@mettalguy92

yes.

[jonnayyy]

Yo, Bob Harris, the drummer, is my uncle.

[HolyChristianMetal]

Cool!

[Death66reaper6]

awesome!!! my half sisters uncle is the drummer for limp bizkit

[656Devin]

Please enter Ari Jesus and look at the latest entry. Thank You.

[HolyChristianMetal]

He claims that Ari is Jesus. He says that Jesus is back. This is impossible. The rapture has not occurred yet. Only after that will Jesus come back.

The ultimate blasphemer is another part of that which is a lie. First of all, he is called the Antichrist, and second of all, the rapture has not occurred yet, so that is also impossible.

The man is a false prophet.

[schattenseele88]

I'm not sayin the dude is right about Ari being Jesus, BUUUUT nowhere in the Bible does it say that a "Rapture" will happen before Christ returns... there's only one boatload goin' out, and that's on judgement day bro!

[TheDiscipleShipPA]

@HolyChristianMetal Jesus will come to rapture the church. You're speaking of the Great Tribulation. Jesus will come AFTER the tribulation to claim His bride.

[SDINDCONNECTION]

@TheDiscipleShipPA someone did their homework before 'speaking'.