We have the same problem here in parts of Ohio, USA with whitetail deer over populating certain areas. The only thing that works is to cull the herd. Not trap and release, not birth control....just plain killing them. Many people don't like it.....but it is reality.
Yes, they served the early settlers well. They were stupid enough to turn them loose instead of keeping them or exporting them back. Now they're a problem that needs to be dealt with, bottom line. Some are exported for camel racing lol, but by far not enough to make any impact on the feral population. They do lots of damage, they strip plants, they eat mostly anything, and they compete with the native wildlife. Shooting the most cost effective and viable option.
The Camels need to die, because humans are the only species who have never harmed the planet.
Afterall, we have never polluted the environment, spread nuclear waste all over the place, killed millions in wars, poisoned the oceans, over fished the seas, trashed the fresh water supply or mined hell out of the earth.
Yup, so you see, the Camels have to die, because they eat stuff.
@PonyHave so we should just let animals from all over the planet to rome free in our country hey lets get some more cane toads over here sounds awsome
They are good for the planet as no human has ever done any harm to it.
Another 50 million ought to greatly improve the Aussie's countryside.
While I understand the need for control in all things, I observe that no such regulation is applied to humans - and their massively destructive activities.
@hxcgrant Dont listen to him, these fucking hippies just dont understand the devastation caused by feral animals in australia. Australia's animals evolved in isolation for 55 million years, and theyre going extinct and endangered at an alarming rate, because of these damn pests, if they cared about the environment theyd endorse hunting.
While I understand what you mean here, you need to remember that a great many extinctions are occurring due to ongoing human activity. We need to clean up our act, but you probably won't agree with that.
You refer to people as hippies, but lack the IQ to actually confirm what you say.
This is typical of someone who has to use the 'F' word to get his idiotic point across.
@PonyHaven I'm studying to be a scientist, and should be working in Australia within the next few years, so I am very knowledgeable of what I'm saying. I'm not going to personally insult you like you did to me, because I dont know you. However, it will be my job to protect endangered marsupials, no matter how many invasive ferals I have to kill to accomplish that. Bottom line: life isnt disney bullshit, introduced animals dont belong there, and if you cant accept that then you are the idiot.
Hmmm, you implied that I am an 'effing hippie' in your initial comment, so you did offer a personal insult.
You state that you are knowledgeable, and perhaps you are, but since you have failed to follow your own premise, the remainder of your comment loses traction.
All destructive, non native, species should be removed from Australia, to protect the environment.
By definition, this includes humans. That is a logical statement.
@PonyHaven I said that not to you directly but to all people like you. If my argument "failed" that's fine people like you arent capable of thinking outside your box to changing your idea anyway, but what you say is still shocking. Youre critisizing me for wanting to get rid of invasive placentals, but you have no problem banishing 25 million people from their homes, haha, now youre just being insane. I admit that would be ideal, but horribly impractical. Try living in the real world sometime.
You stated "don't listen to him, these effing hippies...". That is directed at me, and others with whom you disagree on this subject.
My criticism is based on the sheer hypocrisy that is typical of humanity, and is not focussed upon only you.
You are doing your best to protect Australia's environment, and that's great, but the rest of us should be reducing our environmental impact, and we aren't.
As usual, the innocent must die - so the true perpetrators can flourish.
@PonyHaven You want to talk about innocents dying how about the dozens of endemic species of birds, marsupials, and reptiles that have gone extinct. Dont you dare twist those tragedies for your ridiculous environmental bullshit, that has absolutely nothing to do with the feral invasion in Australia. Think about what youre saying, the vast majority of the continent is completely deserted, everyone lives on the coast. Pigs, foxes, cane toads, cats, goats, there are more of each them than people.
@PonyHaven What facts? You spout nothing but nonsense. I know human beings are destroying the planet. I never disagreed, you just keep changing the subject in some pretty poetic fashion. Get it through your head that Australia is special, the creatures that exist in the rest of the world dont belong there. And you are being an intellectual coward by ignoring the specific reasons and just going "Oh, Humans." I am dedicating my life to the creatures of Australia. What are you doing?
@PonyHaven Yes, it supports your statements because you say so. Believe what youd like. Youre obviously very smart, but so misguided. But i'm tired of arguing and I genuinely wish you the best of luck. Youre probably right in one aspect, we do have similiar goals, just very different aspectual views.
@EddieCubillo I understand what you are saying, and I plan on becoming either a field biologist or a veterinarian when I grow up, and have been learning about animals my entire life. There are many species taking over Australia, such as the cane toad and rat. But the camels could be considered an ecological replacement to the now-extinct giant wombat, as was the dingo to the Tasmanian wolf. I won't tell you what to think, but please keep an open mind. The camels aren't as bad as the rest of 'em.
@NavyDogfish I agree with you to a point, but I will never accept a placental as a replacement for a marsupial. So many natives have gone extinct or endangered because of animals that exist or have existed everywhere else in the world, that it makes me sick. And who knows, maybe one day we'll meet each other while working in Australia.
@EddieCubillo I totally understand. I just wanted to show you a brighter way to look at it. And while a large ungulate may not be the best replacement for the largest marsupial that ever lived, maybe one day a species of kangaroo could evolve into a replacement. And you are right that very many natives have gone extinct, and what sickens me most is the extinction of the thylacine. Why? Because it was directly the humans' fault. It was hunted to extinction for sport.
@EddieCubillo The last ones died in captivity, and yet the dingo might have helped them be wiped out because of their similar preference of prey. However, the dingos still fill the ecological niche that was left behind, as there were more kangaroo predators that died out long ago, like the marsupial lion(thylacoleo carnifex), the wonambi, and possibly the megalania. If the thylacine died out and the dingo hadn't arrived, the kangaroos could have by now obtained uncontrollable numbers.
@EddieCubillo Believe me, I understand that these placental invaders are bad for the marsupials, the worst of these being rats in my opinion, but the wedge-tailed eagles and saltwater crocodiles would have no chance of keeping the kangaroo population in check in my opinion because the 'roos get most if not all the water they need from their food, so they are often out of the crocs' reach and the eagles can only hunt joeys. The dingos have evolved into the 'roos' most effective predators.
@EddieCubillo And while the camels may not be as good a niche-filler as the dingos, I think that there may be a way to get all these camels out of there besides eradication. The dromedary camels are primarily domesticated animals, thanks to the Arabians, and it is possible they can all be captured and re-domesticated. But until a solid solution is reached, let's just hope the dingos can keep their numbers in check.
@PonyHaven if you hate humans so much why don't you help the cause and kill yourself? Since humans are so terrible, the less there are the better. help out the cause!
not so long ago someone claimed, the jews eating up all the food and drink all the water, Get it fascist? The same things happening in Australia now, You need animals as scape goats so you can hide your criminal activities, If there isnt enough water, cut back on the cattle and the sheep, one million camels? who are you kidding, where are they?
your stupid. your the criminal your probably one of those s h i t heads that stir things up on youtube. keep living your pathetic life because your not proving anything to anyone. hope u die
worldpeaz, damn right, Its the farmers, whos millions of cattle and sheep are ruining the land, They just care abt their ever growing profits, Farmers are the real criminals in Australia, The camel served the early settlers well, Farmers and their idiotic MP s should not be allowed to murder them, I say, less cattle, less sheep, more brainpower, The continent is too dry for this sort of mono culture,
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I see .. yes, we have an invasion of cane toads in Florida here. We also have an invasion of people and plants .. like the gums trees that are all over southern California ~ they cause problems when there are fires ~ but it would be rather barren without them. Well .. enjoy your camel burgers. ;o)
People destroy the land. If it weren't for the camels, you wouldn't have had passage through on the rail in Australia. Why don't you export them to countries who respect them instead of this idea of slaughter. They're low maintenance ~ when your water dries up, you're going to wish you had camels around to help you.
why would we export the huge amount of camels that we now have roaming around destroying the land to other countries who already have them? we don' t need or want camels here, just like half the screwed up species like cane toads, camels were introduced. now we have the chance to turn that into a positive and hunt them for food. and btw those other countries respect them because they are meant to be there. they evolved around the land and thats why they are suited to those countries
The camels are the ones who are drying out the water, fool. If you want them come and get them, but no way we can ship them all out of this country without sending Australia bankrupt.
@worldpeaz - you clearly no nothing about the australian outback. The camels are laying waste to huge areas of pristine desert, destroying precious waterholes and making several culturally important tree species extinct. The fact that they are descended from animals which were once useful is irrelevant. If you want one of them come and get it but don't expect me to pay to somehow send them overseas- shooting them is far far cheaper. Besides, you think halal slaughter is a nicer way to die?...
I know, mate, I know ~ I married one ~ well, I married VB and a spa ~ the body came from Horsham and it was a wild one ~ an Ozzie Osbourne clone, he is. I'm back in the states ~ he used to race motorbikes when he was young ~ 100 ks up between the cattle trucks in traffic? No problem .. LOL. I was thinking of that drunk driving commercial .. YOU IDIOT ..haaa ~ cheers!
Why not introduce barbary lions?
nomadlion1985 2 weeks ago
watta majestic creature !!!
thx for THAT CLOSE-UP !!!!!
XXplaythegamesXX 4 months ago
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camel meat is really gd!!!
TheCelticmaori 7 months ago
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Destroying camels is a critically important part of the solution to climate change.
Feral Camels in Oz are a significant contributor to climate change, their population doubles every nine years.
By 2020, they will cause 2 MILLION tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions.
Each camel emits about 45 kilograms of methane into the atmosphere per year, a rate 50 per cent higher than that of cattle.
They do untold damage to the outback, there are an estimated 1.2 million of them.
Hennie941 8 months ago 8
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We have the same problem here in parts of Ohio, USA with whitetail deer over populating certain areas. The only thing that works is to cull the herd. Not trap and release, not birth control....just plain killing them. Many people don't like it.....but it is reality.
stormco7 11 months ago
@TheFemaleBarbarian what is wromg with us aussies
hxcgrant 1 year ago
Camels are fascinating creatures. I would attempt to ride one, but I am modern and civilized.
Slumpnasty 1 year ago 2
Many residents of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in particular, we find the northern tribes want to buy camels from Australia
1406visa 1 year ago
mport from Apple Australiahope that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
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Yes, they served the early settlers well. They were stupid enough to turn them loose instead of keeping them or exporting them back. Now they're a problem that needs to be dealt with, bottom line. Some are exported for camel racing lol, but by far not enough to make any impact on the feral population. They do lots of damage, they strip plants, they eat mostly anything, and they compete with the native wildlife. Shooting the most cost effective and viable option.
sickmetalchick666 1 year ago
these camels are good for cart driving and draught purposes export them to other countries but plz dont kill them
MrJunaid57 1 year ago 2
this bull camel is good for cart driving export them to other countries but plz dont kill them
MrJunaid57 1 year ago 2
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Camels introduced animals gone ferral ......shoot em all.......
VK4LA 1 year ago
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@VK4LA
The Camels need to die, because humans are the only species who have never harmed the planet.
Afterall, we have never polluted the environment, spread nuclear waste all over the place, killed millions in wars, poisoned the oceans, over fished the seas, trashed the fresh water supply or mined hell out of the earth.
Yup, so you see, the Camels have to die, because they eat stuff.
God, we are so lucky to be a faultless species.
PonyHaven 1 year ago 12
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@PonyHave so we should just let animals from all over the planet to rome free in our country hey lets get some more cane toads over here sounds awsome
hxcgrant 1 year ago
@hxcgrant
Hey, let's get some more humans in Australia.
They are good for the planet as no human has ever done any harm to it.
Another 50 million ought to greatly improve the Aussie's countryside.
While I understand the need for control in all things, I observe that no such regulation is applied to humans - and their massively destructive activities.
PonyHaven 1 year ago 4
@PonyHaven chinas one child policy :D
hxcgrant 1 year ago
@hxcgrant
That's a good start, but there is a long way to go it we really want to address the issue of balance.
PonyHaven 1 year ago 2
@PonyHaven no more people
we need to become and ark for endangered species like the African elephant and antelope species. I'd like to see the tiger here too, running wild
alanbstard4 1 year ago
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@hxcgrant Dont listen to him, these fucking hippies just dont understand the devastation caused by feral animals in australia. Australia's animals evolved in isolation for 55 million years, and theyre going extinct and endangered at an alarming rate, because of these damn pests, if they cared about the environment theyd endorse hunting.
EddieCubillo 11 months ago
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@EddieCubillo
While I understand what you mean here, you need to remember that a great many extinctions are occurring due to ongoing human activity. We need to clean up our act, but you probably won't agree with that.
You refer to people as hippies, but lack the IQ to actually confirm what you say.
This is typical of someone who has to use the 'F' word to get his idiotic point across.
PonyHaven 11 months ago 2
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@PonyHaven I'm studying to be a scientist, and should be working in Australia within the next few years, so I am very knowledgeable of what I'm saying. I'm not going to personally insult you like you did to me, because I dont know you. However, it will be my job to protect endangered marsupials, no matter how many invasive ferals I have to kill to accomplish that. Bottom line: life isnt disney bullshit, introduced animals dont belong there, and if you cant accept that then you are the idiot.
EddieCubillo 11 months ago
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@EddieCubillo
Hmmm, you implied that I am an 'effing hippie' in your initial comment, so you did offer a personal insult.
You state that you are knowledgeable, and perhaps you are, but since you have failed to follow your own premise, the remainder of your comment loses traction.
All destructive, non native, species should be removed from Australia, to protect the environment.
By definition, this includes humans. That is a logical statement.
To deny this is to display hypocrisy.
PonyHaven 11 months ago 2
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@PonyHaven I said that not to you directly but to all people like you. If my argument "failed" that's fine people like you arent capable of thinking outside your box to changing your idea anyway, but what you say is still shocking. Youre critisizing me for wanting to get rid of invasive placentals, but you have no problem banishing 25 million people from their homes, haha, now youre just being insane. I admit that would be ideal, but horribly impractical. Try living in the real world sometime.
EddieCubillo 11 months ago
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@EddieCubillo
You stated "don't listen to him, these effing hippies...". That is directed at me, and others with whom you disagree on this subject.
My criticism is based on the sheer hypocrisy that is typical of humanity, and is not focussed upon only you.
You are doing your best to protect Australia's environment, and that's great, but the rest of us should be reducing our environmental impact, and we aren't.
As usual, the innocent must die - so the true perpetrators can flourish.
PonyHaven 11 months ago 2
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@PonyHaven You want to talk about innocents dying how about the dozens of endemic species of birds, marsupials, and reptiles that have gone extinct. Dont you dare twist those tragedies for your ridiculous environmental bullshit, that has absolutely nothing to do with the feral invasion in Australia. Think about what youre saying, the vast majority of the continent is completely deserted, everyone lives on the coast. Pigs, foxes, cane toads, cats, goats, there are more of each them than people.
EddieCubillo 11 months ago
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@EddieCubillo
That's fine.
If you don't want to accept the facts, then go ahead and be a hypocrite.
The human race is responsible for the destruction of a great many species. This destruction continues on our behalf, but you choose to ignore it.
You describe my argument as ridiculous. This is another way of saying "you are right, but I lack the courage to openly agree".
Go ahead and save Australia, then sit back and watch humanity wreck the entire planet.
PonyHaven 11 months ago 2
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@PonyHaven What facts? You spout nothing but nonsense. I know human beings are destroying the planet. I never disagreed, you just keep changing the subject in some pretty poetic fashion. Get it through your head that Australia is special, the creatures that exist in the rest of the world dont belong there. And you are being an intellectual coward by ignoring the specific reasons and just going "Oh, Humans." I am dedicating my life to the creatures of Australia. What are you doing?
EddieCubillo 11 months ago
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@EddieCubillo
Whatever, dude.
You are doing your best for Australia, and good on you.
Referring to my statements as nonsense tends to support them, more than degrade them.
What am I doing?
I have lived off the grid for 16 years, and am developing technologies that will assist us all in reducing our impact on the planet.
If we could all do our part, then I would more readily accept your side of this.
We have similar objectives, but we see certain things in different ways.
PonyHaven 11 months ago
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@PonyHaven Yes, it supports your statements because you say so. Believe what youd like. Youre obviously very smart, but so misguided. But i'm tired of arguing and I genuinely wish you the best of luck. Youre probably right in one aspect, we do have similiar goals, just very different aspectual views.
EddieCubillo 11 months ago 3
@EddieCubillo
It has been a pleasure to chat with you. Best of luck in your endeavours.
PonyHaven 11 months ago
@EddieCubillo I understand what you are saying, and I plan on becoming either a field biologist or a veterinarian when I grow up, and have been learning about animals my entire life. There are many species taking over Australia, such as the cane toad and rat. But the camels could be considered an ecological replacement to the now-extinct giant wombat, as was the dingo to the Tasmanian wolf. I won't tell you what to think, but please keep an open mind. The camels aren't as bad as the rest of 'em.
NavyDogfish 7 months ago
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@NavyDogfish I agree with you to a point, but I will never accept a placental as a replacement for a marsupial. So many natives have gone extinct or endangered because of animals that exist or have existed everywhere else in the world, that it makes me sick. And who knows, maybe one day we'll meet each other while working in Australia.
EddieCubillo 7 months ago
@EddieCubillo I totally understand. I just wanted to show you a brighter way to look at it. And while a large ungulate may not be the best replacement for the largest marsupial that ever lived, maybe one day a species of kangaroo could evolve into a replacement. And you are right that very many natives have gone extinct, and what sickens me most is the extinction of the thylacine. Why? Because it was directly the humans' fault. It was hunted to extinction for sport.
(cont.)
NavyDogfish 7 months ago
@EddieCubillo The last ones died in captivity, and yet the dingo might have helped them be wiped out because of their similar preference of prey. However, the dingos still fill the ecological niche that was left behind, as there were more kangaroo predators that died out long ago, like the marsupial lion(thylacoleo carnifex), the wonambi, and possibly the megalania. If the thylacine died out and the dingo hadn't arrived, the kangaroos could have by now obtained uncontrollable numbers.
(cont.)
NavyDogfish 7 months ago
@EddieCubillo Believe me, I understand that these placental invaders are bad for the marsupials, the worst of these being rats in my opinion, but the wedge-tailed eagles and saltwater crocodiles would have no chance of keeping the kangaroo population in check in my opinion because the 'roos get most if not all the water they need from their food, so they are often out of the crocs' reach and the eagles can only hunt joeys. The dingos have evolved into the 'roos' most effective predators.
(cont.)
NavyDogfish 7 months ago
@EddieCubillo And while the camels may not be as good a niche-filler as the dingos, I think that there may be a way to get all these camels out of there besides eradication. The dromedary camels are primarily domesticated animals, thanks to the Arabians, and it is possible they can all be captured and re-domesticated. But until a solid solution is reached, let's just hope the dingos can keep their numbers in check.
NavyDogfish 7 months ago
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@NavyDogfish Youre very well informed, and I completely agree with you. Everything you said is basically what i would have said.
EddieCubillo 7 months ago
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@EddieCubillo Wow. I suppose it's truly as they say; great minds think alike.
NavyDogfish 7 months ago
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@PonyHaven if you hate humans so much why don't you help the cause and kill yourself? Since humans are so terrible, the less there are the better. help out the cause!
yrtsg 9 months ago
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@yrtsg
Did I say that I hate humans?
No!
Get a clue, fool.
PonyHaven 9 months ago 4
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@PonyHaven you didn't say it you implied it
yrtsg 9 months ago
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@yrtsg
Draw whatever implications you will from my comments, but please be kind enough to observe the actual statements they convey.
PonyHaven 9 months ago 2
not so long ago someone claimed, the jews eating up all the food and drink all the water, Get it fascist? The same things happening in Australia now, You need animals as scape goats so you can hide your criminal activities, If there isnt enough water, cut back on the cattle and the sheep, one million camels? who are you kidding, where are they?
lunafringe10 1 year ago
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your stupid. your the criminal your probably one of those s h i t heads that stir things up on youtube. keep living your pathetic life because your not proving anything to anyone. hope u die
missrosetejano 1 year ago
@missrosetejano you dont sound australian for a start, so why would i dignify you with a reply?
lunafringe10 1 year ago
to even call gods creation is disgusting, Then you might as well flush your bible down the toilet,
lunafringe10 1 year ago
worldpeaz, damn right, Its the farmers, whos millions of cattle and sheep are ruining the land, They just care abt their ever growing profits, Farmers are the real criminals in Australia, The camel served the early settlers well, Farmers and their idiotic MP s should not be allowed to murder them, I say, less cattle, less sheep, more brainpower, The continent is too dry for this sort of mono culture,
lunafringe10 1 year ago
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You should have done Oz a favour and shot it.
BlackCountryPuddler 2 years ago
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You know I was going to say the same thing before i started reading the comments!
greenzx9r 2 years ago
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I see .. yes, we have an invasion of cane toads in Florida here. We also have an invasion of people and plants .. like the gums trees that are all over southern California ~ they cause problems when there are fires ~ but it would be rather barren without them. Well .. enjoy your camel burgers. ;o)
worldpeaz 2 years ago
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y didnut u shoot it u idiot? they destroy the land. they aren;t meant 2 be there
limosince2007 2 years ago
People destroy the land. If it weren't for the camels, you wouldn't have had passage through on the rail in Australia. Why don't you export them to countries who respect them instead of this idea of slaughter. They're low maintenance ~ when your water dries up, you're going to wish you had camels around to help you.
worldpeaz 2 years ago 3
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why would we export the huge amount of camels that we now have roaming around destroying the land to other countries who already have them? we don' t need or want camels here, just like half the screwed up species like cane toads, camels were introduced. now we have the chance to turn that into a positive and hunt them for food. and btw those other countries respect them because they are meant to be there. they evolved around the land and thats why they are suited to those countries
limosince2007 2 years ago
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The camels are the ones who are drying out the water, fool. If you want them come and get them, but no way we can ship them all out of this country without sending Australia bankrupt.
NigelGriff 1 year ago
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@worldpeaz - you clearly no nothing about the australian outback. The camels are laying waste to huge areas of pristine desert, destroying precious waterholes and making several culturally important tree species extinct. The fact that they are descended from animals which were once useful is irrelevant. If you want one of them come and get it but don't expect me to pay to somehow send them overseas- shooting them is far far cheaper. Besides, you think halal slaughter is a nicer way to die?...
ech1dna 1 year ago
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@ech1dna
I agree with you mate, it's funny how all the comments that are marked as spam are the only sensible ones.
sickmetalchick666 1 year ago
I'm sure it had much to report.
That land kind of looks like parts of Western Texas... pretty.
SadForgottenTroll 2 years ago
Imagine slamming in to him at 100 k's at night.
fieldmor77 2 years ago 6
lol,l yeah, and imagine a giant camel, springing out from the bushes before you can swerve.
rowania 2 years ago
You Idiot ~ why would you be doing 100 k's at night?
worldpeaz 2 years ago
Because here in Aussie were all crazy, that's why!!.
fieldmor77 2 years ago 3
I know, mate, I know ~ I married one ~ well, I married VB and a spa ~ the body came from Horsham and it was a wild one ~ an Ozzie Osbourne clone, he is. I'm back in the states ~ he used to race motorbikes when he was young ~ 100 ks up between the cattle trucks in traffic? No problem .. LOL. I was thinking of that drunk driving commercial .. YOU IDIOT ..haaa ~ cheers!
worldpeaz 2 years ago