I can see why this Ron Paul went into politics, he is good at twisting word so it seems like he's given an answer to a question when he hasn't, the current PM of the UK is the same, and being a manipulator of words is a trait i hate in a political representative.
If marriage is a religious institution, then why are secularists able to marry? Why can Atheists, Agnostics, Wiccans, etc. get married? All you have to do is go to a court house or have a secular wedding. You never have to talk to a priest or step inside a church. :/ I just thought I'd point that out. I like Paul the most out of all of those running under the GOP flag, but that's one point where I just kind of facepalm and wish people would see that that belief is wrong.
Ron Paul states that he wants the government to be distinct from religion, but he also clearly states he wants more power to be given to religion to be self-governing, as can be seen with the comments regarding how the church should rule on the legality of marriage. To me, AA's comments relate to the church's ability to govern and how the church should not have any legal powers, and to claim he's lying when he says Ron Paul opposes separation of church and state is just pedantic.
@biobotism also, regarding the 'gay marriage' comments, Ron Paul clearly states he wants the church to be the governing body on the legality of marriages. The church clearly and repeatedly state their very clear views on gay marriage, and so by Ron Paul wanting the church to rule on the legality of all marriages, he is clearly indirectly supporting a body that opposes gay marriage, regardless of whether he does himself or not! Again, it's just pedantic to accuse AA of lying here.
The problem with most of Ron Paul's critics is that the listen to MsM primarily for their sources. This information is spun to distort Ron Paul's views to make them easier to soundbite and allow people to quickly say... "He's a racist" or "He's an isolationist" or "He wants to take us back to the dark ages and weaken our defense" but none of them go to the source. I have been listening to Ron Paul's speeches and when he gets to explain his views, they make logically sense. Some choose the lies.
@vpotter2010 But wait, I am a fan of The Amazing Atheist... and he would be one to tell you that everything he says is based on his opinion and always subject to change if he learns or is drawn to see otherwise... even Ron Paul would say not to condemn AA for his beliefs, instead state your case with a civil, professional, and well researched mind and stop resorting to all the negative banter that pollutes these comment threads. We need to stop fighting each other and become allies before its...
The problem with "TheAmazingAtheist" is that for all of his insight and perspective, he still remains staunchly loyal to his chosen political party. He chooses to say very little against one entity of a failing system but everything to complain about when discussing another almost identical entity that functions by the same principles and guidelines. He's a biased intolerant baby who fails to see his own short-comings. Nothing to get upset about. Just another imperfect creature with an ego.
TJ may be funny and pretty smart, but his big personal flaw is that he thinks that just because he knows alot about some stuff, that means he knows everything. He's so conceited that he called Thomas Aquinas stuipid, just because he disagreed with him. This vid is a prime example of how little he knows about Ron Paul. Then there's his two vids on buddhism where he (almost laughably) demonstrates that he doesn't know one thing about buddhism that he can't learn from a pamphlet.
Central Banking is the BIGGEST issue of political reform. This is the issue that candidates knowingly choose to ignore. Research the role of central banking throughout history and the influence on the WORLD since WWI. I challenge the people to become informed. If you truly were you would be voting for Ron Paul.
Ron Paul continuously states that he will not impose his personal beliefs on the country. Granting states rights grants people the right to vote towards issues that they feel are significant. Watch speaches from every candidate all Santorum does is talk about his Catholicism. Romney talks about his Mormonism upbringing along with how conservative he is. Both of these candidates religion plays extensive roles in their decision making. Ex (stances on abortion, gay marriage, and contraception)
Basically Ron Paul said neither the federal gov or state gov should be involved in the marriage issue, it's a religeous issue. Government should only play a part in ensuring a level economic playing field for all citizen human beings. To me, that means through the tax system, fed tax, and on down, there would be no reward or penalty, any taxes collected for the common good would be based on goods/services received, less major corporate lobbiest influence in our personal life. Contracts honored.
Ron Paul is more about providing some guideposts for america's future, in a socieity conditioned up till latley not worry about the future, because they were promised something better than where they came from and, it all looked good if you didn't think too much about it. The sooner we can have an concerned, pragmatic adult to lead this country the better, let's start to clean up Washington!
I usually like Ron Paul to some degree, but I feel that his belief that marriage is a religious ceremony is kind of antiquated. Marriage isn't strictly religious in modern society and the reasons that most people have for getting married usually have very little to do with religion.
I would seem YOU are the ignorant one much like most Paulbots. "Like the majority of Iowans, I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman and must be protected. I supported the Defense of Marriage Act. Ron Paul, Feb. 2011. (This is an anti-gay marriage bill. Look it up)
The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers". Ron Paul 12/30/2003
Religion is not a state-function. If members of a religious community decide they want to exclude certain people from their community, that is their right. It's not your right to have de jure imposing rights on any private clubs, religions or similar. And the state can certainly not impose on their liberty to defy their own religion by marrying gays, but it's a religion's right to not recognize that marriage as valid by their own definition.
@leirgauk Please read the Defense of Marriage act and tell me if it is constitutional or not. If then Marriage is a religious act not that of the State. Ron Paul sands in support of DOMA. Thus doesn't believe in the separation of Church and state.
@jesushatesyoutoo All I'm saying is that Christians have full right to define their interpretation of the word "Christian Marriage" within their religion/group. I'm not sure what Ron Paul wants. Are you disagreeing with my statement?
@leirgauk NO, the word marriage is defined by DOMA which is a Federal law. It is NOT a religious rite it is a legal contract licensed by the individual states by laws. It has state and federal tax implications as well. NO ONE used the term Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist until you just pulled it out of your ass!
@jesushatesyoutoo Wow, calm down. I never said Christian marriage should be recognized differently than, say, state marriage, in terms of legal benefits. Just that the church has the right to decide if they want to marry gays or not.
@leirgauk The key term here that you keep dancing around in marriage. Again, it IS a LEGAL term. Churches have to be given the PERMISSION by the state to perform this LEGAL ceremony then are presented with a LEGAL document! On one occasion a couple tired to force a church to marry them, the couple lost.
@jesushatesyoutoo No, all I'm saying is that the church has the right to not recognize gay marriage as official Christian marriage, and that no types of marriages should be held in a higher regard in terms of the law, and I'm pretty sure that we're on the same page here.
The only reason why these morons jump on the Paulite wagon is because of his Anti War ideology! THAT IS ALL! On everything else Paul is a fucking Senile imbecile!
@ajwall1 while that would be a very bad idea because that would mean no one gets the same fair treatment, I don't think that's what he is referring to. I think hes referring to things like the gold standard that would be bound to fail, and Ron Paul's anarchist-like ideals on how the economy should work and we shouldn't regulate it.
So, you answer 2 of the 7 claims he made against Ron Paul and you expect us tobeleive that the others were also false? Great video, still not voting for him.
Ron Paul, sounds like a nut sometimes, but that's irrelevant when you think about our past and present presidents. Cut spending, great, end the department od Education, great, end the wars, great. He is a true conservative, and his experience as a combat medic in Vietnam makes him more reliable in the sense of that war should only be declared in the self preservation of our country, not for imperialism. As a former Infantry Marine, I have to say don't send me to war without a good reason, go Ron
From my understanding, marriage(the term, maybe not the action) originated by religious means. So the sanctity of marriage should be reserved for the religious. There are many countries that came to grips with 'gay marriage' although they don't call it 'gay marriage' (or any marriage without a religious background), they call it a civil union. Still has all the 'pros/cons' of marriage, just labelled differently, and there would be no mention of god/jesus/holy spirit/etc/etc during the ceremony.
really? because Ron Paul says that marriage should be a religious thing, uncontrolled by the government, and last time i check, all the religious institutions are totally opposed to gay marriage...." I think it's a religious function."....so YES. he has said things that appose gay marriage. paul-tard.
I believe that StartwithASeed was saying that he unsubbed from TheAmazingAtheist due to your video.
That being said, there are clearly recognizable patterns that are rife throughout the internet. One of the most obvious is trolls. TheAmazingAtheist's very username shows that he is a troll- he exists to rant against religion, with his all-too-convenient username leading the way. The same applies to countless others, representing countless agendas.
@AmericanWayne Whoever thinks what Ron Paul says are lies...is a complete waste of oxygen on this planet and should not be allowed to speak...AmericanWayne,you are obviously the ignorant one here you piece of shit!!! go suck a dick you big faggot motherfucker...RON PAUL 2012!!!
@FindSomeChange88 How dumb can you be and still breathe? I am a Ron Paul supporter and only someone as dense as a Cracker Jack box wouldn't pick up on that.
@FindSomeChange88 You can't be serious, this guy is defending ron paul against someone who is spreading lies about him. He is showing the person spreading the bullshit and what he is saying and then showing Ron Paul saying something that disproves the first guys statements. You sir, are the obviously ignorant one here. It even shows in the video that he is not the man making the claims of lies in the video. How do you not see this?
@AmericanWayne the video you were posting about, the amazing athesit video omg. i was agreeing with that Amazing was being stupid posting wthout extensive research and playing a notty biased table
@stairc two words. Limited liability. The government was in the hands of the banks, so they took risks knowing they would be bailed out. If the government wasn't there, the banks wouldn't have took that risk or otherwise would have collapsed for doing so.
Marriage should be a religeous matter NOT a state matter, this includes ANY financial benefits.
Why would gay people want to marry under a religious institution that hates them?
Don't get me wrong they absolutely MUST have the same rights as we do, I'm not disputing that and neither is Ron Paul. But Ron Paul is a secularist, and it comes as no surprise that he is opposed to gay marriage, because it enforces religion in state matters...
@ghostrj You're right. Just like segregation is a cultural matter. Why should it matter to the government if blacks aren't allowed in restauraunts or if blacks weren't allowed to get married?
Oh wait... It's civil rights...
Whether you think a gay couple wouldn't want to get married is irrelevant. It's clear that a ridiculous number of them do.
@ghostrj Marriage is not strictly a religious matter. There are benefits available to couples that are married that aren't available to couples in domestic partnerships.
@ghostrj marriage is no longer confined to religious matters - it has become an institution in and of itself. The legal definition does not include any reference to religion. You say that gays must have the same rights as heterosexuals but not be able to marry? How does that work? Marriage provides extremely important rights to couples, for which there is no equal alternative. While religious people can hold special religious marriages, marriage in general must be a state matter.
Ron Paul thinks that we should depend on the church for social programs, morality, and marriage laws....I don't think so. This guy is just another fundie-American-fascist-religonut in disguise. People are desperate so they support him, but the reality is that he sucks and he has no chance of winning anyhow.
Okay, let an objective gay person weigh in on this. The argument about marriage is getting to be just... petty. "Marriage," in all historical references by that title, even dating to antiquity when it was referred to as "matrimonium" - literally translated as the "state of motherhood" - is, in fact, a religious (and even sociopolitical) construct. Now, we're just arguing over semantics! The argument is just about what the word, itself, means! Jesus Christ, chill the fuck out.
Marriage has never been a religious term. Ever. It has always been a legal term. That marriage can be recognised in a church by religious authority is irrelevant. Marriage does not have to happen in a church, be actualised by a reverend, nor indeed has there ever been need to. The ancient Greeks, Egyptians and Romans did not recognise their wedding religiously. The fact you're gay is besides the point, you're talking rubbish.
@Pitchguest Well, I'm not going to have a pissing contest with someone whose interpretations of history - and that's just what they are - have somehow empowered him to belittle other people. Saying that an apple has never been called an apple doesn't make it so. But, isn't that the beauty of the First Amendment, mein freund? You're entitled to whatever opinion and belief that keeps your modest intellectual ship from sinking.
Having complete knowledge of history is nigh impossible, but researching marriage comes at the click of a search engine. You can look it up as easy as I did. If the vast reaches of the internet seems too unreliable, you can look it up in a book, and within it you'll see that marriage has not ever, originally, been religious, nor will it ever be, unless we somehow revert to a theocracy.
To refer to it as a pissing contest is puerile. I just don't want you spreading misinformation.
Illinois is a gay friendly state.. Some states may take rights away, whereas others will give more- a free market will determine moral progression.
You can't beat the shit out of people in order to make them see the light. There needs to be a rational, and congnitive, choice made that determines what the options of the next choice is.
Just like I can't force someone not to be racist, but I can make them feel like a fucking moron over time- its all about progression.
If that was your defense of Ron Paul AmericanWayne, I am sorely disappointed.
TAA made the following accusations:
1. Ron Paul is against Gay Marriage.
2. Ron Paul is against the Separation of Church & State.
Nowhere did Paul say that he was for the allowing of gay marriage. Nowhere did Paul say he was a staunch advocate for the separation of church & state. You simply posted a few vagaries.
I have no interest in voting for a Christian Paleoconservative to run our country. Thank you.
Right, and his point is that there should be no legalities surrounding it because it is a part of someone's personal life. In another video Ron Paul basically sums up his answer as "Let them do whatever they want and call it whatever they want" Why should there be any legalities whatsoever surrounding marriage in the first place? Why should it be up to the law to enforce certain things and not others concerning marriage?
@InnuendoXP Because for people who don't believe in god but still feel the follow some sort of religious-type ideology, statism seems to do the trick.
The states may forbid it, but it doesn't stop anyone from being gay. This isn't really a religious issue as much as it is a legal one. Gay couples want the legal benefits of marriage, not the churches approval. Because it is mainly a legal matter, it cannot be left up to the churches. The Federal Government has screwed up enough on more important issues, let's leave some things for the state.
the amazingly fucking retarded atheist is the dumbest most ignorant fuck i have had the displeasure of listening to...who gives a flying fuck if people cant marry and why do you concern yourself so much with religion...if you are a fucking atheist then prove it and just shut the fuck up you fat piece of rhino shit..
@evilmrcrowley You're retarded. No offense, but you're really retarded. Sure, TAA is pretty ignorant. He doesn't really take in to account both sides, but he is a very smart person. He is very well composed, using proper grammer and spelling, and explains his view on things very well. Wtf is wrong with you? Who's conernded about marriage? I think people who want to marry are. And maybe, just maybe, he gives so much thought to religion because it is a very imposing force in contemporary society.
@Hitaro9 What is marriage really? It's a contract that binds you to another person that's about it. I'm just saying hes a fucking douchebag for trying to impose his belief or shall I say dis-belief among everyone. Is that not the reason you hate religion to begin with? Because they try to impose religion onto non-believers. If you ask me, just because someone has knowledge does not mean they are "intelligent", intelligence is how you use your knowledge. He doesn't use his knowledge well
@evilmrcrowley And who's to say that some people shouldn't be allowed to have said contract? Riding a bus is just sitting and moving. Is it okay to ban black people from riding on busses? I never said I hated religion. In fact, I believe in god. You are also putting words in our mouths. He disapproves of religion because of the blind acceptance of god, with no factual evidence. And it's not like he's out on the streets with a mircrophone screaming at people. He posts optionally viewable videos.
@Hitaro9 Either way I don't care if gays marry or not, because to me marriage is just a title, if you love someone thats the only thing that should matter. The point is that TAA is just a troll and if you take him seriously you are just as arrogant as he is, but for him to troll religion is stupid whether it is optional to view or not. He is not smart because if he was he would use his brains for something more constructive. He is also a major hypocrite.
@dlewis1498 Like the guy as a character, could never have him in office as a politician. Anyone who either doesn't understand the recent financial crisis or blatantly lies about it (he said government over-regulation was the CAUSE of it, and simply policing fraud - when nothing that the main traders did was fraud and was possible because of poor regulation of free market entities like Moodys was the cause) doesn't belong in the white house. Same with anti-evolutionists.
@Stairc your an idiot, interfering with the free market and over regulation/inflation and borrowing trillions to police the world is EXACTLY what caused our crisis, go study economics dimwit
@dragsterf So... The free markets creating the derivative subprime mortgage market, made entirely by the wall street banks with NO input from the federal government, crash the market... And you're blaming the government for this... How?
Really, I'm fascinated to hear your backwards justification. I've studied the crisis intensely, I know exactly what happened, which firms, which traders down to their names. You're clearly an ignorant fool, but I'm fascinated to hear your excuses.
@dlewis1498 I must disagree. I understand that Ron Paul does not believe all the things I do. Yet he is willing to fight for my rights to my belief anyway. He understands that it is not his place to tell others how to run their lives. That is part of why I support him.
@fedinhorax New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Iowa etc... All legalized gay marriage through the state...impossible? I think not, I think Ron Paul had it right.
And how about the states that will forbid it? Does that mean that it's okay that gays will have to go out of their state to marry? Isn't it just a right for everyone that wasn't really recognized in the time the US constitution was written? If America is the land of the free, then why forbid people stuff, and that is what religion does (partly); forbidding things.
@fedinhorax Some states will forbid it. This should not be looked at as a bad thing. It may seem like it at first, but social change is a progressive phenomenon. It is not something that should be forced onto an entire country. States that legalize gay marriage, will probably see an influx of population, tax revenue, entrepreneurship, and a stronger economy.
@fedinhorax This is one part of the free market. States that create better policies, and have better results will be emulated. It's a process, that should not be transgressed.
He's the average American idiot who has to shout obscenities to get his point across. And when you examine said point, you discover that there isn't any. It's just anger and obscenities for no apparent reason. Some people get a kick out of that, so you can imagine his audience. I guess he wants Gingrich or Romney for president so that America degrades from the cesspool it already is into a totalitarian fascist police state.
@NietzscheKILLEDjesus Nice man I am also an atheist since I was 11 years old. I would never stand up for the pledge of allegiance in school etc etc. It has always been an instinct of mine. Also have been following Ron Paul religiously since 2007! Not sure why this uninformed rhetoric about Ron is still around abundantly.... hes way ahead of his time people are going to look back and wonder why everyone thought he was crazy when he could have saved us all.
I think it's ironic that so many people tell you to 'educate yourself' and 'get informed' when in reality, they're almost certainly the ones that are profoundly ignorant. Supporting Ron Paul is demonstrative of either retardation, madness, naivete, or incredible wealth/income that can't help but benefit from his earnest, albeit insane desire to turn America into more of a dystopian plutocracy than it already is.
I found it shocking that Ron Paul was booed for stating that the US should adopt a golden rule based foreign policy (which is something i really wish we would do here in the UK) by republicans who (for the most part) claim to be christians booed one of what is probably one of Jesus best teachings. Even as someone who does not believe in any god that's shocking.
Rule #1, being atheist doesn't mean your a smart person. It's just as obvious as seeing soneone is fat. So clearly, Just because one sees that one is a fatty, it doesn't mean the observer is intelligent.
Theamzingathiest is a fat retard! He is a self hating moron, who is vulnerable to the white guilt trip. Ignore him, laugh at him, reject him. He is simply a jester in the court of idiocy.
What a lot of you dont understand is that marriage is a religious concept so, it should be decided by each individual church. The other thing is that if he was elected then the IRS and federal taxes would be eliminated so it would no longer serve them to get marital status anyway. People who need the govt to regulate every aspect of their lives are essentially fully grown children refusing to take responsibility
@Maniac50AE #1 I liked your comments & thought you made some valid points. My comments about same sex marriage are based solely on a MRA point of view & no other. Yes, I would like to see same sex marriage legalized (so would the lucrative corrupt court system and the states that they work for) because then they would experience what straight men have experienced for 50 yrs. Divorce, child support & alimony. Write this down & put it on your refrigerator. Judges, lawyers, politicians
#2 pay their country club dues & Jaguar payments off the backs of men & I can hear them licking their lips at the prospect of the cha-ching being added to the state coffers with the legalization of same sex marriage. I will be so tickled at seeing gays having to pay filing fees, divorce attorneys fees, court cost fees, child support fees (yes, child support is a billion dollar industry funded by the feds out of the social security retirement trust fund, google Title IV-D & read the
@MLJ1219 i never researched it but, when someone told me how much it cost for a divorce, i knew it was Big Business. I'll never ask the state for permission when i get married. But like Chris Rock said, "Let them get married, gay people have the right to be just as miserable as everyone else."
@Maniac50AE Thank you for taking time to reply back, I will be using that Chris Rock quote you provided. What a great line and oh so true.
Pls remember, whether you ask permission or not choose your mate carefully. All states have either palimony or 'common law' marriage statutes that can cripple a man & make him a financial slave to the state & his ex partner. With kids it's even worse.
Best bet, a woman is 10X more apt to break vow to man than God if she truly is religious.
#3 whole thing). If you are planning on retiring in 20 yrs don't count on soc sec (that 93% of Americans do count on) cause it will be gone. With legalized same sex marriage it will be gone in 10 yrs. Why, because the feds pay subsidies (kickbacks) bounties to states to collect child support whether it is current or behind (doesn't matter) similar to the bounties paid 100 yrs ago on wolves & for Amer Indian scalps. Yes, I support gay marriage even tho I am not athiest & do support Paul.
#3 whole thing). If you are planning on retiring in 20 yrs don't count on soc sec (that 93% of Americans do count on) cause it will be gone. With legalized same sex marriage it will be gone in 10 yrs. Why, because the feds pay subsidies (kickbacks) bounties to states to collect child support whether it is current or behind (doesn't matter) similar to the bounties paid 100 yrs ago on wolves & for Amer Indian scalps. Yes, I support gay marriage even tho I am not athiest & do support Paul.
#4 I support Paul because the due process clause is (was) the best thing we have in this country to protect the rights of Christians, athiests, Jews, straights, gays etc. unless it is bastardized by idealogues and/or corrupt politicians, judges, lawyers who would sell their own soul or their moms for a dollar or a nice cushy job with great retirement benefits. Like it or not Paul is the last slim chance to save the ideas of a republic form of goverment vs socialism/fascism.
Gay marriage: Ron Paul says it is a RELIGIOUS matter. What do you think that the religious authorities are going to say about gay marriage? Ron Paul is not stupid, he knows this... That's why you can call Ron Paul against gay marriage, because his policies will lead to gay marriage being impossible.
Separation of church and state: Ron Paul says the government should stay out of people's religious life. That is good, but the religion should also stay out of the state, he doesn't mention that.
@fedinhorax I think you are a bit twisted on Ron Paul. How is he going to do that if he himself is trying to reduce his powers to the states. He is basically saying to you that you are free to do what you wish with out the gov n your back. Unless you want to go to Obama and see no progress or the other looney republicans whose agenda's are the same thing as the last administrations.
@fedinhorax As someone who does not like Ron Paul, i find it very difficult to defend him. That being said, you are completely wrong. Ron Paul says marriage should be a religious matter, but one that has no state involvement. He supports state civil unions for everyone, gay or straight, and whether religions want to perform marriage ceremonies for gays is up to them, but those ceremonies would mean nothing outside of the religious context. There would be no religious overtaking of the state.
RP doesn't talk about keeping religion out of the government and I can assure you that the religious authorities are going to be against gay marriage. How can you make an argument otherwise? you know i'm right... You just want to believe RP is right on every issue. Listen, I still think he is the best guy for presidency, because i don't live in the US. His foreign policy is the best for the world, his domestic policy is f*ck*d up for US citizens, but that's not my problem... :P
@fedinhorax First of all, there is no way in hell I am voting for Ron Paul (or Obama). Second, what the hell are you talking about? RP has repeatedly said he wants the government to issue civil partnerships to everyone, gay straight or otherwise. He then says that people can get religious marriages in a Church, but those services will not have any legal bearing, only spiritual. Check out some of his quotes, he said he is supportive of all free associations without government restrictions.
@fedinhorax your premise is faulty. You assume that if marriage was left to religious authorities that it would be impossible for same-sex marriages. However, you are overlooking the fact that there are NUMEROUS religions out there. Not all of them are so anti-gay. Freedom of Religion+Gay Rights left to Religious authorities=Make up your own religion(like Joesph Smith) and get married. Just dont make up stories of finding golden tablets in a reformed Egyptian script.
Numerous religions... Right... Listen man, christianity, islam and judaism all some to have something against gay marriage, therefore they have something against equal rights. Just don't try to argue on this with me, you know i'm right.... There might be a few small churches that aren't negative towards gays, the majority is and that is what matters.
@fedinhorax Christianity,Islam and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions and have shared religious ancestors. Of course they will share similar views. What you leave out in your generalized view is that there are other religions out there besides those three. What about Buddhism? Recently there has been much discussion about accepting same-sex marriage within the Buddhist tradition.
You claim you're right, but you think invoking "the silent majority" will prove to be a solid rebuttal?
Lol... lately there has been discussion about accepting same-sex marriage within the buddhist tradition?
HAHAHAH!! Howmany buddhist you think there are in the US? How are buddhist ever going to influence policy in the US in a substantial way, are you delusional?
We do the right things not because of a book..but because we have reasoning. Let people believe what they want, educated them and they will come to a conclusion of reasoning a logic.
@fedinhorax He did actually - in this very video that you clearly didn't watch he says "less government, in all areas. they don't want gov involved in our economic lives or our personal lives - or in our religious lives"
@fedinhorax I just want to show my support for your argument here. I've had "top comment" on another video, making a statement that Ron Paul's acolytes didn't like, they are dumb, they are noisy, and they will not take off their rose colored Ron Paul glasses. Good luck, friend.
It's also why you can say that Ron Paul is against any marriage recognized by the state at all. It won't matter what the 'religious authorities' have to say about it because they won't, nor will anyone else, be able to invalidate any type of marriage through government, or any venue. With the state stripped of the power to validate/invalidate a marriage, that power would be right back in the hands of the couples themselves to say it is or is not. Which is the way it ought to be.
@fedinhorax as long as Gays do not call There unions Marriage, i dont care what they want if they want sex ok you can have that (if u can even call it that) if you want money here is my Taxes if you want children Adopt if you want respect here it is i am a Christian and i Love Homosexuals all i want is for Gays to not change the world marriage theyve allready changed these words meansings Gay-Happy fagg-twigs queer-odd now all three these words mean Homosexual dont take Marriage 2
@ lol they didnt change those words we did so we can point them out thats being said "here is my taxes" are you dumb nobody has a right to your money but your DAM SELF we need law so we can all keep our money and not wasted on some BS government program that never works also let the fags get married if they want why should we care we live in "the land of free" dont we? so why shouldnt they be as free as us! i dont like fags but i love freedom its sad that America seems to has less everyday
@fedinhorax so you never heard of freedom of Religion? Ron Paul says its up to the church but what if that church allows gay marriage, like Dr.Paul said its up to the church. He also believes the State has no right to tell who can and cannot be married. Ron Paul is not for gay marriage or againist it his for Freedom.
@fedinhorax No he says it shouldn't be ILLEGAL. Nor should it be up to government to decide the conditions of marriage.
Marriage is inherently and originally a RELIGIOUS ritual/bond/sanction/whatever. So yes, it is up to the religion to decide because marriage is religious.
@fedinhorax you're an idiot. if it's a religious matter, the state shouldn't say "no gay marriage," then they also can't say "yes gay marriage" its a religious matter in the sense that the state should have no say in either direction. if the catholic church does not let gays marry, whats the govt supposed to do? call up the pope and make him change his mind?
@fedinhorax Well it depends on what religions you're talking about. Christians have many churches that will marry gay couples. What about Hinduism, or Taoism, or Raelianism? What about EVERY other religion out there, what about Wicca priests? Your point is moot, as it seems to focus on one specific religion indirectly, pushing aside all others.
@fedinhorax BULLSHIT.....i live in the STATE of california and it was up to the STATE to let gays get married....as well the STATE of newyork lets gays get married......
Ron Paul is RIGHT its a STATE issue not the FEDS.
same with MEDICAL MARIJUANA....the STATE made it legal here in california but the FEDS still come in and try and knock down dispensaries!
@fedinhorax Who says gays have to go to an anti-gay church to get married? Libertarians believe that no one ought to be denied ANYTHING that involves only them and the parties involved. If two men want to marry, it's up to them. If two lesbian sisters want to marry, it too should be up to them. I think we're FAR more liberal in the classical, original sense, than any 'liberal' who has a very inconsistent view of civil liberties.
I can see why this Ron Paul went into politics, he is good at twisting word so it seems like he's given an answer to a question when he hasn't, the current PM of the UK is the same, and being a manipulator of words is a trait i hate in a political representative.
micheal89edwards 1 day ago
If marriage is a religious institution, then why are secularists able to marry? Why can Atheists, Agnostics, Wiccans, etc. get married? All you have to do is go to a court house or have a secular wedding. You never have to talk to a priest or step inside a church. :/ I just thought I'd point that out. I like Paul the most out of all of those running under the GOP flag, but that's one point where I just kind of facepalm and wish people would see that that belief is wrong.
Vinnehkins 2 days ago
liar or ignorant? My answer is banana ass-shoveler
extrenix 2 days ago
This was pretty fail. On your end, if that wasn't clear.
DeathBringer769 3 days ago
Ron Paul states that he wants the government to be distinct from religion, but he also clearly states he wants more power to be given to religion to be self-governing, as can be seen with the comments regarding how the church should rule on the legality of marriage. To me, AA's comments relate to the church's ability to govern and how the church should not have any legal powers, and to claim he's lying when he says Ron Paul opposes separation of church and state is just pedantic.
biobotism 4 days ago
@biobotism also, regarding the 'gay marriage' comments, Ron Paul clearly states he wants the church to be the governing body on the legality of marriages. The church clearly and repeatedly state their very clear views on gay marriage, and so by Ron Paul wanting the church to rule on the legality of all marriages, he is clearly indirectly supporting a body that opposes gay marriage, regardless of whether he does himself or not! Again, it's just pedantic to accuse AA of lying here.
biobotism 4 days ago
Is TheAmazingAtheist Liar or Ignorant?
The answer is: Both.
Jeanluck1 4 days ago
The problem with most of Ron Paul's critics is that the listen to MsM primarily for their sources. This information is spun to distort Ron Paul's views to make them easier to soundbite and allow people to quickly say... "He's a racist" or "He's an isolationist" or "He wants to take us back to the dark ages and weaken our defense" but none of them go to the source. I have been listening to Ron Paul's speeches and when he gets to explain his views, they make logically sense. Some choose the lies.
vpotter2010 5 days ago
@vpotter2010 But wait, I am a fan of The Amazing Atheist... and he would be one to tell you that everything he says is based on his opinion and always subject to change if he learns or is drawn to see otherwise... even Ron Paul would say not to condemn AA for his beliefs, instead state your case with a civil, professional, and well researched mind and stop resorting to all the negative banter that pollutes these comment threads. We need to stop fighting each other and become allies before its...
vpotter2010 5 days ago
The problem with "TheAmazingAtheist" is that for all of his insight and perspective, he still remains staunchly loyal to his chosen political party. He chooses to say very little against one entity of a failing system but everything to complain about when discussing another almost identical entity that functions by the same principles and guidelines. He's a biased intolerant baby who fails to see his own short-comings. Nothing to get upset about. Just another imperfect creature with an ego.
kyntu 5 days ago 2
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Ron Paul "Don't Protect Religious Liberty"
youtube.com/watch?v=CLFjzCQPdkE
ToxinalX 6 days ago
Common sense as usual from RP .
TheGoat1954 6 days ago
TJ may be funny and pretty smart, but his big personal flaw is that he thinks that just because he knows alot about some stuff, that means he knows everything. He's so conceited that he called Thomas Aquinas stuipid, just because he disagreed with him. This vid is a prime example of how little he knows about Ron Paul. Then there's his two vids on buddhism where he (almost laughably) demonstrates that he doesn't know one thing about buddhism that he can't learn from a pamphlet.
simpsonman956 6 days ago
Religion is just a moral game.
kennyspad 1 week ago
Central Banking is the BIGGEST issue of political reform. This is the issue that candidates knowingly choose to ignore. Research the role of central banking throughout history and the influence on the WORLD since WWI. I challenge the people to become informed. If you truly were you would be voting for Ron Paul.
christian32johnson 1 week ago
Ron Paul continuously states that he will not impose his personal beliefs on the country. Granting states rights grants people the right to vote towards issues that they feel are significant. Watch speaches from every candidate all Santorum does is talk about his Catholicism. Romney talks about his Mormonism upbringing along with how conservative he is. Both of these candidates religion plays extensive roles in their decision making. Ex (stances on abortion, gay marriage, and contraception)
christian32johnson 1 week ago
ron paul won't be elected, but he does seem to have a lot of mindless sheep supporting him
MyMadra 1 week ago
So you basicly manages to disprove NOTHING of what the amazing atheist said at all? You posted some videoes which doesn´t really prove anything?
DrunkitheDane 1 week ago
yay you can loop something he says! wanna cookie? too bad. they are for the dark side
MaxDrotergen 1 week ago
Ron Paul is the Old American Hero
Barrack Obama in the New American Hero
thedazdaryl 1 week ago
Basically Ron Paul said neither the federal gov or state gov should be involved in the marriage issue, it's a religeous issue. Government should only play a part in ensuring a level economic playing field for all citizen human beings. To me, that means through the tax system, fed tax, and on down, there would be no reward or penalty, any taxes collected for the common good would be based on goods/services received, less major corporate lobbiest influence in our personal life. Contracts honored.
MrJohn7778 1 week ago
@MrJohn7778
Ron Paul is more about providing some guideposts for america's future, in a socieity conditioned up till latley not worry about the future, because they were promised something better than where they came from and, it all looked good if you didn't think too much about it. The sooner we can have an concerned, pragmatic adult to lead this country the better, let's start to clean up Washington!
MrJohn7778 1 week ago
great way NOT to refute any of his claims.
trainwreckable1 1 week ago 9
I usually like Ron Paul to some degree, but I feel that his belief that marriage is a religious ceremony is kind of antiquated. Marriage isn't strictly religious in modern society and the reasons that most people have for getting married usually have very little to do with religion.
eleventhousandfour 1 week ago
Wow. You posted Ron Paul footage and had no actual dialogue from yourself. That must make you a fucking genius who is always right.
Tanker937 1 week ago
I would seem YOU are the ignorant one much like most Paulbots. "Like the majority of Iowans, I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman and must be protected. I supported the Defense of Marriage Act. Ron Paul, Feb. 2011. (This is an anti-gay marriage bill. Look it up)
The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers". Ron Paul 12/30/2003
jesushatesyoutoo 1 week ago
Religion is not a state-function. If members of a religious community decide they want to exclude certain people from their community, that is their right. It's not your right to have de jure imposing rights on any private clubs, religions or similar. And the state can certainly not impose on their liberty to defy their own religion by marrying gays, but it's a religion's right to not recognize that marriage as valid by their own definition.
leirgauk 1 week ago
@leirgauk Please read the Defense of Marriage act and tell me if it is constitutional or not. If then Marriage is a religious act not that of the State. Ron Paul sands in support of DOMA. Thus doesn't believe in the separation of Church and state.
jesushatesyoutoo 1 week ago
@jesushatesyoutoo All I'm saying is that Christians have full right to define their interpretation of the word "Christian Marriage" within their religion/group. I'm not sure what Ron Paul wants. Are you disagreeing with my statement?
leirgauk 1 week ago
@leirgauk NO, the word marriage is defined by DOMA which is a Federal law. It is NOT a religious rite it is a legal contract licensed by the individual states by laws. It has state and federal tax implications as well. NO ONE used the term Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist until you just pulled it out of your ass!
jesushatesyoutoo 1 week ago
@jesushatesyoutoo Wow, calm down. I never said Christian marriage should be recognized differently than, say, state marriage, in terms of legal benefits. Just that the church has the right to decide if they want to marry gays or not.
leirgauk 1 week ago
@leirgauk The key term here that you keep dancing around in marriage. Again, it IS a LEGAL term. Churches have to be given the PERMISSION by the state to perform this LEGAL ceremony then are presented with a LEGAL document! On one occasion a couple tired to force a church to marry them, the couple lost.
jesushatesyoutoo 1 week ago
@jesushatesyoutoo No, all I'm saying is that the church has the right to not recognize gay marriage as official Christian marriage, and that no types of marriages should be held in a higher regard in terms of the law, and I'm pretty sure that we're on the same page here.
leirgauk 1 week ago
Im not voting for ron paul
imaStonesFan 1 week ago
@imaStonesFan fuck ron paul i love you :D
theTrueleaderOfAll0 1 week ago
@theTrueleaderOfAll0 LOL :)
imaStonesFan 1 week ago
The only reason why these morons jump on the Paulite wagon is because of his Anti War ideology! THAT IS ALL! On everything else Paul is a fucking Senile imbecile!
deeppurple28 1 week ago
@deeppurple28 You forgot all the pot heads, they defiantly like Ron Paul, and Cheetos.
desager1 1 week ago
@deeppurple28 so ron paul is an imbecile because he wants the federal govt. to have less control and make the states more powerful?
ajwall1 1 week ago
@ajwall1 while that would be a very bad idea because that would mean no one gets the same fair treatment, I don't think that's what he is referring to. I think hes referring to things like the gold standard that would be bound to fail, and Ron Paul's anarchist-like ideals on how the economy should work and we shouldn't regulate it.
Wolffeye13 1 week ago
So, you answer 2 of the 7 claims he made against Ron Paul and you expect us tobeleive that the others were also false? Great video, still not voting for him.
AKArainkit 1 week ago
Ron Paul, sounds like a nut sometimes, but that's irrelevant when you think about our past and present presidents. Cut spending, great, end the department od Education, great, end the wars, great. He is a true conservative, and his experience as a combat medic in Vietnam makes him more reliable in the sense of that war should only be declared in the self preservation of our country, not for imperialism. As a former Infantry Marine, I have to say don't send me to war without a good reason, go Ron
every1dysalone 1 week ago
amazing atheist the socialist loser got pwned.
SanguineBullet667 2 weeks ago
Ron Paul = "Articles of Confederation"
ShinjukuHH 2 weeks ago
@Adroitism oh really? Please tell me more I'd loooove to hear this bullshit
passdoutcouchpotatos 2 weeks ago
The Amazing Atheist is ignorant a lot of the time buy sometimes he flat out lies when it comes to things like feminism,.
Adroitism 2 weeks ago
@Adroitism really? well then please, do tell
annonroi 2 weeks ago
From my understanding, marriage(the term, maybe not the action) originated by religious means. So the sanctity of marriage should be reserved for the religious. There are many countries that came to grips with 'gay marriage' although they don't call it 'gay marriage' (or any marriage without a religious background), they call it a civil union. Still has all the 'pros/cons' of marriage, just labelled differently, and there would be no mention of god/jesus/holy spirit/etc/etc during the ceremony.
TheStJames23 2 weeks ago
really? because Ron Paul says that marriage should be a religious thing, uncontrolled by the government, and last time i check, all the religious institutions are totally opposed to gay marriage...." I think it's a religious function."....so YES. he has said things that appose gay marriage. paul-tard.
BloodJunkie11 2 weeks ago
@BloodJunkie11 *checked
BloodJunkie11 2 weeks ago
Was this an attempt to discredit him? Because it failed.
savedbyblood19 2 weeks ago
Thank you for clearing that up, i unsubscribed because of that video you are posting about it.
StartswithASeed 2 weeks ago
@StartswithASeed You were never subscribed to me to begin with so I guess it's a wash.
AmericanWayne 2 weeks ago
@AmericanWayne
I believe that StartwithASeed was saying that he unsubbed from TheAmazingAtheist due to your video.
That being said, there are clearly recognizable patterns that are rife throughout the internet. One of the most obvious is trolls. TheAmazingAtheist's very username shows that he is a troll- he exists to rant against religion, with his all-too-convenient username leading the way. The same applies to countless others, representing countless agendas.
benskin79 1 week ago
@AmericanWayne Whoever thinks what Ron Paul says are lies...is a complete waste of oxygen on this planet and should not be allowed to speak...AmericanWayne,you are obviously the ignorant one here you piece of shit!!! go suck a dick you big faggot motherfucker...RON PAUL 2012!!!
FindSomeChange88 1 week ago
@FindSomeChange88 OH...sorry for the above comment..didnt read the description below the video...sorry AmericanWayne!!! RON PAUL2012
FindSomeChange88 1 week ago
@FindSomeChange88 How dumb can you be and still breathe? I am a Ron Paul supporter and only someone as dense as a Cracker Jack box wouldn't pick up on that.
AmericanWayne 1 week ago 5
@AmericanWayne haha love it!!
JyROFATE 1 week ago
@AmericanWayne >Ron Paul supporters circle jerking with retardation.
soadfansoad 1 week ago
@FindSomeChange88 You can't be serious, this guy is defending ron paul against someone who is spreading lies about him. He is showing the person spreading the bullshit and what he is saying and then showing Ron Paul saying something that disproves the first guys statements. You sir, are the obviously ignorant one here. It even shows in the video that he is not the man making the claims of lies in the video. How do you not see this?
rustedromeo 1 day ago
@AmericanWayne the video you were posting about, the amazing athesit video omg. i was agreeing with that Amazing was being stupid posting wthout extensive research and playing a notty biased table
StartswithASeed 1 week ago
@stairc two words. Limited liability. The government was in the hands of the banks, so they took risks knowing they would be bailed out. If the government wasn't there, the banks wouldn't have took that risk or otherwise would have collapsed for doing so.
SilentSlumber3 3 weeks ago
Ron Paul has stated marriage is between a man and a woman. How is this not anti homosexual?
1019079 3 weeks ago
RON PAUL IS A CHRISTIAN
gogolplex74 3 weeks ago
the gov't has no right over marriage.
tusicake 3 weeks ago
He's right
Marriage should be a religeous matter NOT a state matter, this includes ANY financial benefits.
Why would gay people want to marry under a religious institution that hates them?
Don't get me wrong they absolutely MUST have the same rights as we do, I'm not disputing that and neither is Ron Paul. But Ron Paul is a secularist, and it comes as no surprise that he is opposed to gay marriage, because it enforces religion in state matters...
ghostrj 3 weeks ago 14
@ghostrj You're right. Just like segregation is a cultural matter. Why should it matter to the government if blacks aren't allowed in restauraunts or if blacks weren't allowed to get married?
Oh wait... It's civil rights...
Whether you think a gay couple wouldn't want to get married is irrelevant. It's clear that a ridiculous number of them do.
Stairc 3 weeks ago
@ghostrj Ron Paul is not a secularist. He states he is a Christian on his website.
kingofspeed46 2 weeks ago
@ghostrj Marriage is not strictly a religious matter. There are benefits available to couples that are married that aren't available to couples in domestic partnerships.
MsAnarcha 1 week ago
@ghostrj hahaha religious matter marriage, thats against seperation of church and state....
CommanderMattShepard 1 day ago
@ghostrj marriage is no longer confined to religious matters - it has become an institution in and of itself. The legal definition does not include any reference to religion. You say that gays must have the same rights as heterosexuals but not be able to marry? How does that work? Marriage provides extremely important rights to couples, for which there is no equal alternative. While religious people can hold special religious marriages, marriage in general must be a state matter.
Disturbed763 21 hours ago
This is why you are not allowed in court to show an edited video. or something like that, right?
AlpacaNYC 3 weeks ago
U r the ignorant! That didn't contradict what TheAmazingAtheist said at all.
ethos79 3 weeks ago
Ron Paul thinks that we should depend on the church for social programs, morality, and marriage laws....I don't think so. This guy is just another fundie-American-fascist-religonut in disguise. People are desperate so they support him, but the reality is that he sucks and he has no chance of winning anyhow.
tstruss912 3 weeks ago
Also, Ron Paul, 2012
OnyxianHeart 3 weeks ago
Okay, let an objective gay person weigh in on this. The argument about marriage is getting to be just... petty. "Marriage," in all historical references by that title, even dating to antiquity when it was referred to as "matrimonium" - literally translated as the "state of motherhood" - is, in fact, a religious (and even sociopolitical) construct. Now, we're just arguing over semantics! The argument is just about what the word, itself, means! Jesus Christ, chill the fuck out.
OnyxianHeart 3 weeks ago
@OnyxianHeart
Marriage has never been a religious term. Ever. It has always been a legal term. That marriage can be recognised in a church by religious authority is irrelevant. Marriage does not have to happen in a church, be actualised by a reverend, nor indeed has there ever been need to. The ancient Greeks, Egyptians and Romans did not recognise their wedding religiously. The fact you're gay is besides the point, you're talking rubbish.
Pitchguest 3 weeks ago
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OnyxianHeart 3 weeks ago
@Pitchguest Well, I'm not going to have a pissing contest with someone whose interpretations of history - and that's just what they are - have somehow empowered him to belittle other people. Saying that an apple has never been called an apple doesn't make it so. But, isn't that the beauty of the First Amendment, mein freund? You're entitled to whatever opinion and belief that keeps your modest intellectual ship from sinking.
OnyxianHeart 3 weeks ago
@OnyxianHeart
Having complete knowledge of history is nigh impossible, but researching marriage comes at the click of a search engine. You can look it up as easy as I did. If the vast reaches of the internet seems too unreliable, you can look it up in a book, and within it you'll see that marriage has not ever, originally, been religious, nor will it ever be, unless we somehow revert to a theocracy.
To refer to it as a pissing contest is puerile. I just don't want you spreading misinformation.
Pitchguest 3 weeks ago
lol how fucking old is that amazing athiest video and how new is that Ron Paul video. People's platform change ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
Tremblay343 3 weeks ago
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ThePsycoDolphin 3 weeks ago
wow a ron paul neck beard supporter jesus its like a living parody
noofatchiks 3 weeks ago
Illinois is a gay friendly state.. Some states may take rights away, whereas others will give more- a free market will determine moral progression.
You can't beat the shit out of people in order to make them see the light. There needs to be a rational, and congnitive, choice made that determines what the options of the next choice is.
Just like I can't force someone not to be racist, but I can make them feel like a fucking moron over time- its all about progression.
RP12
Cr3Nietzsche3n 3 weeks ago
If that was your defense of Ron Paul AmericanWayne, I am sorely disappointed.
TAA made the following accusations:
1. Ron Paul is against Gay Marriage.
2. Ron Paul is against the Separation of Church & State.
Nowhere did Paul say that he was for the allowing of gay marriage. Nowhere did Paul say he was a staunch advocate for the separation of church & state. You simply posted a few vagaries.
I have no interest in voting for a Christian Paleoconservative to run our country. Thank you.
felisleo101 3 weeks ago
This proves nothing. He didn't even answer the question.
Alster12345678 3 weeks ago
Marriage is NOT a religious term, it is a legal term. There are plenty of straight atheists who are married; do you want to ban that too?
kjking02 4 weeks ago
@kjking02
Right, and his point is that there should be no legalities surrounding it because it is a part of someone's personal life. In another video Ron Paul basically sums up his answer as "Let them do whatever they want and call it whatever they want" Why should there be any legalities whatsoever surrounding marriage in the first place? Why should it be up to the law to enforce certain things and not others concerning marriage?
InnuendoXP 3 weeks ago
@InnuendoXP Because for people who don't believe in god but still feel the follow some sort of religious-type ideology, statism seems to do the trick.
dubified89 3 weeks ago
@kjking02 I do, yes.
dubified89 3 weeks ago
TAA is a neckbeard moron who promised YEARS ago to stop making videos.
oh wait.
piecharthosen 4 weeks ago
@piecharthosen madbro?
unifieddynasty 4 weeks ago
ron paul would let faggots merry
fountainherz 1 month ago
Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate that said his religion will not define is presidency, only his character.
He doesnt have a problem with gays having a union, but marriage is a religious term for a union between a man and woman(sometimes more then one xD)
EsotericSanity 1 month ago
Lol Ron Paul just basically said uhhhh I don't like gay marriage but it so not be approved because church don't want it lol
lucassheard 1 month ago
@fedindorax
The states may forbid it, but it doesn't stop anyone from being gay. This isn't really a religious issue as much as it is a legal one. Gay couples want the legal benefits of marriage, not the churches approval. Because it is mainly a legal matter, it cannot be left up to the churches. The Federal Government has screwed up enough on more important issues, let's leave some things for the state.
Albertus747 1 month ago
He didnt really answer what he thought of Seperation of Church and State. He just gave examples of what the founding fathers thought
IronMan50780 1 month ago
the amazingly fucking retarded atheist is the dumbest most ignorant fuck i have had the displeasure of listening to...who gives a flying fuck if people cant marry and why do you concern yourself so much with religion...if you are a fucking atheist then prove it and just shut the fuck up you fat piece of rhino shit..
evilmrcrowley 1 month ago
@evilmrcrowley You're retarded. No offense, but you're really retarded. Sure, TAA is pretty ignorant. He doesn't really take in to account both sides, but he is a very smart person. He is very well composed, using proper grammer and spelling, and explains his view on things very well. Wtf is wrong with you? Who's conernded about marriage? I think people who want to marry are. And maybe, just maybe, he gives so much thought to religion because it is a very imposing force in contemporary society.
Hitaro9 1 month ago
@Hitaro9 What is marriage really? It's a contract that binds you to another person that's about it. I'm just saying hes a fucking douchebag for trying to impose his belief or shall I say dis-belief among everyone. Is that not the reason you hate religion to begin with? Because they try to impose religion onto non-believers. If you ask me, just because someone has knowledge does not mean they are "intelligent", intelligence is how you use your knowledge. He doesn't use his knowledge well
evilmrcrowley 1 month ago
@evilmrcrowley And who's to say that some people shouldn't be allowed to have said contract? Riding a bus is just sitting and moving. Is it okay to ban black people from riding on busses? I never said I hated religion. In fact, I believe in god. You are also putting words in our mouths. He disapproves of religion because of the blind acceptance of god, with no factual evidence. And it's not like he's out on the streets with a mircrophone screaming at people. He posts optionally viewable videos.
Hitaro9 1 month ago
@Hitaro9 Either way I don't care if gays marry or not, because to me marriage is just a title, if you love someone thats the only thing that should matter. The point is that TAA is just a troll and if you take him seriously you are just as arrogant as he is, but for him to troll religion is stupid whether it is optional to view or not. He is not smart because if he was he would use his brains for something more constructive. He is also a major hypocrite.
evilmrcrowley 1 month ago
People have quite a knack for ignoring what Ron Paul actually thinks so they can snuggle up on the bandwagon.
dlewis1498 1 month ago 21
@dlewis1498 Like the guy as a character, could never have him in office as a politician. Anyone who either doesn't understand the recent financial crisis or blatantly lies about it (he said government over-regulation was the CAUSE of it, and simply policing fraud - when nothing that the main traders did was fraud and was possible because of poor regulation of free market entities like Moodys was the cause) doesn't belong in the white house. Same with anti-evolutionists.
Stairc 3 weeks ago
@Stairc your an idiot, interfering with the free market and over regulation/inflation and borrowing trillions to police the world is EXACTLY what caused our crisis, go study economics dimwit
dragsterf 3 weeks ago
@dragsterf So... The free markets creating the derivative subprime mortgage market, made entirely by the wall street banks with NO input from the federal government, crash the market... And you're blaming the government for this... How?
Really, I'm fascinated to hear your backwards justification. I've studied the crisis intensely, I know exactly what happened, which firms, which traders down to their names. You're clearly an ignorant fool, but I'm fascinated to hear your excuses.
Stairc 3 weeks ago
@dlewis1498 I must disagree. I understand that Ron Paul does not believe all the things I do. Yet he is willing to fight for my rights to my belief anyway. He understands that it is not his place to tell others how to run their lives. That is part of why I support him.
Zhibaduba 3 weeks ago
@fedinhorax New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Iowa etc... All legalized gay marriage through the state...impossible? I think not, I think Ron Paul had it right.
Albertus747 1 month ago
@Albertus747
And how about the states that will forbid it? Does that mean that it's okay that gays will have to go out of their state to marry? Isn't it just a right for everyone that wasn't really recognized in the time the US constitution was written? If America is the land of the free, then why forbid people stuff, and that is what religion does (partly); forbidding things.
fedinhorax 1 month ago
@fedinhorax Some states will forbid it. This should not be looked at as a bad thing. It may seem like it at first, but social change is a progressive phenomenon. It is not something that should be forced onto an entire country. States that legalize gay marriage, will probably see an influx of population, tax revenue, entrepreneurship, and a stronger economy.
ivorykeys871 4 weeks ago
@fedinhorax This is one part of the free market. States that create better policies, and have better results will be emulated. It's a process, that should not be transgressed.
ivorykeys871 4 weeks ago
He's the average American idiot who has to shout obscenities to get his point across. And when you examine said point, you discover that there isn't any. It's just anger and obscenities for no apparent reason. Some people get a kick out of that, so you can imagine his audience. I guess he wants Gingrich or Romney for president so that America degrades from the cesspool it already is into a totalitarian fascist police state.
AmundLauritzen 1 month ago
@NietzscheKILLEDjesus Nice man I am also an atheist since I was 11 years old. I would never stand up for the pledge of allegiance in school etc etc. It has always been an instinct of mine. Also have been following Ron Paul religiously since 2007! Not sure why this uninformed rhetoric about Ron is still around abundantly.... hes way ahead of his time people are going to look back and wonder why everyone thought he was crazy when he could have saved us all.
TimmyJUnderground 1 month ago
@NietzscheKILLEDjesus Humble Christian agreeing with Proud atheist with aweful youtube name Lol but i am voting RON PAUL
Might God Bless the Gays and Atheists
libbyandtai 1 month ago
@libbyandtai According to the bible, god will probably never ever bless atheists or gay people. Just another cherrypicker. Not impressed.
Faerlon123 1 month ago
fuck are you really that dumb or are you a troll now? looking for views to make some money on youtube. sad fat bitch
ikeones 1 month ago
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I think it's ironic that so many people tell you to 'educate yourself' and 'get informed' when in reality, they're almost certainly the ones that are profoundly ignorant. Supporting Ron Paul is demonstrative of either retardation, madness, naivete, or incredible wealth/income that can't help but benefit from his earnest, albeit insane desire to turn America into more of a dystopian plutocracy than it already is.
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daniel2102007 1 month ago
@NietzscheKILLEDjesus
Faith in nothing is an awesome paradox.
AllPro777 1 month ago
I found it shocking that Ron Paul was booed for stating that the US should adopt a golden rule based foreign policy (which is something i really wish we would do here in the UK) by republicans who (for the most part) claim to be christians booed one of what is probably one of Jesus best teachings. Even as someone who does not believe in any god that's shocking.
Erech01 1 month ago
Rule #1, being atheist doesn't mean your a smart person. It's just as obvious as seeing soneone is fat. So clearly, Just because one sees that one is a fatty, it doesn't mean the observer is intelligent.
acali24 1 month ago
Another atheist fully supporting Ron Paul.
MrTrollingStone 1 month ago
/watch?v=phRi80HBIuU
so what u vote for if not this guy???
xeno18ufo 1 month ago
He is an obamabot with a sexual fetish for black men.
jackbelias 1 month ago
@jackbelias Have you even watched his past like 30 or so videos? He fucking hates Obama.
WinstonSmith144 1 month ago
@jackbelias he actually hates Obama,but okay.
iJuStEriC 1 month ago
Theamzingathiest is a fat retard! He is a self hating moron, who is vulnerable to the white guilt trip. Ignore him, laugh at him, reject him. He is simply a jester in the court of idiocy.
fromtherye 1 month ago
What a lot of you dont understand is that marriage is a religious concept so, it should be decided by each individual church. The other thing is that if he was elected then the IRS and federal taxes would be eliminated so it would no longer serve them to get marital status anyway. People who need the govt to regulate every aspect of their lives are essentially fully grown children refusing to take responsibility
Maniac50AE 1 month ago
@Maniac50AE #1 I liked your comments & thought you made some valid points. My comments about same sex marriage are based solely on a MRA point of view & no other. Yes, I would like to see same sex marriage legalized (so would the lucrative corrupt court system and the states that they work for) because then they would experience what straight men have experienced for 50 yrs. Divorce, child support & alimony. Write this down & put it on your refrigerator. Judges, lawyers, politicians
MLJ1219 1 month ago
Fuck the faggots anyway, they are sick in the brain just like George Bush...
L3galHustl3 1 month ago
@L3galHustl3 Assuming you're a male, that would also make you a "faggot." (:
xDiSTRiKT 1 month ago
#2 pay their country club dues & Jaguar payments off the backs of men & I can hear them licking their lips at the prospect of the cha-ching being added to the state coffers with the legalization of same sex marriage. I will be so tickled at seeing gays having to pay filing fees, divorce attorneys fees, court cost fees, child support fees (yes, child support is a billion dollar industry funded by the feds out of the social security retirement trust fund, google Title IV-D & read the
MLJ1219 1 month ago
@MLJ1219 i never researched it but, when someone told me how much it cost for a divorce, i knew it was Big Business. I'll never ask the state for permission when i get married. But like Chris Rock said, "Let them get married, gay people have the right to be just as miserable as everyone else."
Maniac50AE 1 month ago
@Maniac50AE Thank you for taking time to reply back, I will be using that Chris Rock quote you provided. What a great line and oh so true.
Pls remember, whether you ask permission or not choose your mate carefully. All states have either palimony or 'common law' marriage statutes that can cripple a man & make him a financial slave to the state & his ex partner. With kids it's even worse.
Best bet, a woman is 10X more apt to break vow to man than God if she truly is religious.
MLJ1219 1 month ago
Ron Paul pwns some fatty, fatpantsed, asshole.
rmed30 1 month ago
#3 whole thing). If you are planning on retiring in 20 yrs don't count on soc sec (that 93% of Americans do count on) cause it will be gone. With legalized same sex marriage it will be gone in 10 yrs. Why, because the feds pay subsidies (kickbacks) bounties to states to collect child support whether it is current or behind (doesn't matter) similar to the bounties paid 100 yrs ago on wolves & for Amer Indian scalps. Yes, I support gay marriage even tho I am not athiest & do support Paul.
MLJ1219 1 month ago
#3 whole thing). If you are planning on retiring in 20 yrs don't count on soc sec (that 93% of Americans do count on) cause it will be gone. With legalized same sex marriage it will be gone in 10 yrs. Why, because the feds pay subsidies (kickbacks) bounties to states to collect child support whether it is current or behind (doesn't matter) similar to the bounties paid 100 yrs ago on wolves & for Amer Indian scalps. Yes, I support gay marriage even tho I am not athiest & do support Paul.
MLJ1219 1 month ago
Did you make this video to prove his point? AmericanWayne Liar or ignorant
saintmichael881 1 month ago
#4 I support Paul because the due process clause is (was) the best thing we have in this country to protect the rights of Christians, athiests, Jews, straights, gays etc. unless it is bastardized by idealogues and/or corrupt politicians, judges, lawyers who would sell their own soul or their moms for a dollar or a nice cushy job with great retirement benefits. Like it or not Paul is the last slim chance to save the ideas of a republic form of goverment vs socialism/fascism.
MLJ1219 1 month ago
You need to re - Title this. I gave it a thumbs down. I thought you were the j-ck a-- in the beginning.
cbasallie 1 month ago
Gay marriage: Ron Paul says it is a RELIGIOUS matter. What do you think that the religious authorities are going to say about gay marriage? Ron Paul is not stupid, he knows this... That's why you can call Ron Paul against gay marriage, because his policies will lead to gay marriage being impossible.
Separation of church and state: Ron Paul says the government should stay out of people's religious life. That is good, but the religion should also stay out of the state, he doesn't mention that.
fedinhorax 1 month ago 31
@fedinhorax I think you are a bit twisted on Ron Paul. How is he going to do that if he himself is trying to reduce his powers to the states. He is basically saying to you that you are free to do what you wish with out the gov n your back. Unless you want to go to Obama and see no progress or the other looney republicans whose agenda's are the same thing as the last administrations.
cartel0025 1 month ago
@fedinhorax lier...
paunocu666 1 month ago
@fedinhorax As someone who does not like Ron Paul, i find it very difficult to defend him. That being said, you are completely wrong. Ron Paul says marriage should be a religious matter, but one that has no state involvement. He supports state civil unions for everyone, gay or straight, and whether religions want to perform marriage ceremonies for gays is up to them, but those ceremonies would mean nothing outside of the religious context. There would be no religious overtaking of the state.
Cwagmire 1 month ago
@Cwagmire
RP doesn't talk about keeping religion out of the government and I can assure you that the religious authorities are going to be against gay marriage. How can you make an argument otherwise? you know i'm right... You just want to believe RP is right on every issue. Listen, I still think he is the best guy for presidency, because i don't live in the US. His foreign policy is the best for the world, his domestic policy is f*ck*d up for US citizens, but that's not my problem... :P
fedinhorax 1 month ago
@fedinhorax First of all, there is no way in hell I am voting for Ron Paul (or Obama). Second, what the hell are you talking about? RP has repeatedly said he wants the government to issue civil partnerships to everyone, gay straight or otherwise. He then says that people can get religious marriages in a Church, but those services will not have any legal bearing, only spiritual. Check out some of his quotes, he said he is supportive of all free associations without government restrictions.
Cwagmire 1 month ago
@fedinhorax your premise is faulty. You assume that if marriage was left to religious authorities that it would be impossible for same-sex marriages. However, you are overlooking the fact that there are NUMEROUS religions out there. Not all of them are so anti-gay. Freedom of Religion+Gay Rights left to Religious authorities=Make up your own religion(like Joesph Smith) and get married. Just dont make up stories of finding golden tablets in a reformed Egyptian script.
Gaettusk 1 month ago
@Gaettusk
Numerous religions... Right... Listen man, christianity, islam and judaism all some to have something against gay marriage, therefore they have something against equal rights. Just don't try to argue on this with me, you know i'm right.... There might be a few small churches that aren't negative towards gays, the majority is and that is what matters.
fedinhorax 1 month ago
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Gaettusk 1 month ago
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@fedinhorax Christianity,Islam and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions and have shared religious ancestors. Of course they will share similar views. What you leave out in your generalized view is that there are other religions out there besides those three. What about Buddhism? Recently there has been much discussion about accepting same-sex marriage within the Buddhist tradition.
You claim you're right, but you think invoking "the silent majority" will prove to be a solid rebuttal?
Gaettusk 1 month ago
@Gaettusk
Lol... lately there has been discussion about accepting same-sex marriage within the buddhist tradition?
HAHAHAH!! Howmany buddhist you think there are in the US? How are buddhist ever going to influence policy in the US in a substantial way, are you delusional?
fedinhorax 1 month ago
@fedinhorax
in 2000
Same-sex partnerships in the U.S. 595,000
Buddhists-1 million
avert(dot)org/gay-people(dot)htm
patheos(dot)com/blogs/americanbuddhist/2011/07/buddhists-in-america(dot)html
If those sources prove inaccurate then reply with more accurate numbers so we can continue this discourse.
Gaettusk 1 month ago
We do the right things not because of a book..but because we have reasoning. Let people believe what they want, educated them and they will come to a conclusion of reasoning a logic.
acali24 1 month ago
@fedinhorax He did actually - in this very video that you clearly didn't watch he says "less government, in all areas. they don't want gov involved in our economic lives or our personal lives - or in our religious lives"
nialljamesbuckley 1 month ago
@fedinhorax I just want to show my support for your argument here. I've had "top comment" on another video, making a statement that Ron Paul's acolytes didn't like, they are dumb, they are noisy, and they will not take off their rose colored Ron Paul glasses. Good luck, friend.
TheN0username 1 month ago
@fedinhorax
It's also why you can say that Ron Paul is against any marriage recognized by the state at all. It won't matter what the 'religious authorities' have to say about it because they won't, nor will anyone else, be able to invalidate any type of marriage through government, or any venue. With the state stripped of the power to validate/invalidate a marriage, that power would be right back in the hands of the couples themselves to say it is or is not. Which is the way it ought to be.
romeosevendelta 1 month ago
libbyandtai 1 month ago
@ lol they didnt change those words we did so we can point them out thats being said "here is my taxes" are you dumb nobody has a right to your money but your DAM SELF we need law so we can all keep our money and not wasted on some BS government program that never works also let the fags get married if they want why should we care we live in "the land of free" dont we? so why shouldnt they be as free as us! i dont like fags but i love freedom its sad that America seems to has less everyday
smoky281 1 month ago
@fedinhorax so you never heard of freedom of Religion? Ron Paul says its up to the church but what if that church allows gay marriage, like Dr.Paul said its up to the church. He also believes the State has no right to tell who can and cannot be married. Ron Paul is not for gay marriage or againist it his for Freedom.
smoky281 1 month ago
@fedinhorax No he says it shouldn't be ILLEGAL. Nor should it be up to government to decide the conditions of marriage.
Marriage is inherently and originally a RELIGIOUS ritual/bond/sanction/whatever. So yes, it is up to the religion to decide because marriage is religious.
That said, I support gay marriage.
InSingularity 1 month ago
@fedinhorax you're an idiot. if it's a religious matter, the state shouldn't say "no gay marriage," then they also can't say "yes gay marriage" its a religious matter in the sense that the state should have no say in either direction. if the catholic church does not let gays marry, whats the govt supposed to do? call up the pope and make him change his mind?
edubctown 1 month ago
@fedinhorax Well it depends on what religions you're talking about. Christians have many churches that will marry gay couples. What about Hinduism, or Taoism, or Raelianism? What about EVERY other religion out there, what about Wicca priests? Your point is moot, as it seems to focus on one specific religion indirectly, pushing aside all others.
1253bryan 1 month ago
@fedinhorax but marriage is between a man and a women, we are not changing the meaning of marriage in the dictionary.
razaa09 1 month ago
@fedinhorax BULLSHIT.....i live in the STATE of california and it was up to the STATE to let gays get married....as well the STATE of newyork lets gays get married......
Ron Paul is RIGHT its a STATE issue not the FEDS.
same with MEDICAL MARIJUANA....the STATE made it legal here in california but the FEDS still come in and try and knock down dispensaries!
RON PAUL 2012 shrink FED power
LeeroyJimboBerkowitz 1 month ago
@fedinhorax Who says gays have to go to an anti-gay church to get married? Libertarians believe that no one ought to be denied ANYTHING that involves only them and the parties involved. If two men want to marry, it's up to them. If two lesbian sisters want to marry, it too should be up to them. I think we're FAR more liberal in the classical, original sense, than any 'liberal' who has a very inconsistent view of civil liberties.
SunBeamsan 4 weeks ago
@fedinhorax Well if you live in region th