Recovery | Questions we all should have about the disease concept and Alcoholism

[isegoria1]

@wat700son Thanks for leaving all points made by the video stand. It would appear that you are the one who is full of bullshit as you put it. Your "spiritual" venom amuses me.

[wat700son]

@isegoria1 anytime, always glad to amuse the simple minded. I don't know where you get your assumptions about alcoholism, but I grew up with it so that pretty much makes me an expert~Peace, Love and Light and all that great stuff to you

[isegoria1]

@wat700son Peace? You are about as two faced as they come. This is typical behavior from your group. Thanks for yet more venom and mindlessness. It amazes me how stupid you people really are. All this to duck responsibility for things you did on purpose. And the rest of us are the ones who are dishonest? Fucking please.

[Eric101]

this dude is so fucking ignorant, i wounder where this guy gets all his "knowledge". no one knows shit about being an addict unless you are actually an addict, witch im sure 90% of those doctors are close minded and since they can control THEIR drinking, then everyone should.......................s­uch a moron.....

[isegoria1]

@Eric101 More adhom and stupid assumptions - Thanks for leaving all my points stand, you are obviously too dumb to do anything else. How very "spiritual" of you. If people want an honest view of 12 step they only need to look at fools like yourself. Thanks for being a sad example.

[sidecrank]

Where can I see these 'studies' and reserch.

[isegoria1]

@sidecrank Check the information box.

[kkodoyle]

ok smart ones....their is no research to back anything this video said...so why dont you go ahead and do your own research...and what is the best form?...go out and find yourselves some true "lab rats"...people with addiciton or alcoholism. if you want to live by this video see how well you can have someone lets say "unlearn" their addiction or disease and hopefully its not someone you love and care about for i know living by this ignorance means death...

[isegoria1]

It would help if you looked up the information prior to your contempt. There is in fact research backing it. I will not do the looking up for you.

Your argument from ignorance is full of fail.

[notspeedy0314]

i forget who said this, but the quote goes something like, "AA's attachment to the 'disease' concept is miles wide & an inch deep."

while medical & scientfic types battle over the semantics of a 'disease'/'brain-disease' model, AA opportunistically uses the language to recruit fresh meat.

then says, "AA never calls alcoholism a disease."

while the pamplet "Is AA For You?" (2008) clearly states: "We found out that we had these feelings because we had the disease of alcoholism."

hmmm ... .

[youvexme]

Their (AA's) own doubt is in the language they use. It's always 'the disease of' alcoholism, as they put it. How often do you hear someone refer to the disease of cancer, the disease of diabetes? Very rarely, because actual diseases simply don't need the qualifier 'disease of'.

[isegoria1]

Never thought of it that way - SPOT ON