@2camjohn I'm currently imagining hundreds of little Potholers running about in a big warehouse somewhere. FYI, they all look like dwarfs from Snow White.
@sallyamis if there is a long period of time between the two fossils, it is impossible to think there was no natural selection in between. It can take it's course over shorter periods of time as well, unless the species are too close together in time. Then it would appear as if one suddenly gave birth to another, but we know that does not happen.
Thank you for the response, and again, please do not think I'm trying to argue :) Is it possible that we may never find the gaps in the fossil record? Can an event cause dead bodies to never be fossilized (for example, can a comet or volcano vaporize them)? Or is it as simple as the fossils just haven't been found yet?
@truthforchrist =Is it possible that we may never find the gaps in the fossil record?= Not just possible, but a certainty. If you find a fossil to fill a gap between two fossils, you open up two new gaps. If you find two fossils to fill those gaps, you now have four more gaps. Most organisms don't fossilize, by the way, especially land organisms.
@truthforchrist Also worth noting... Carbon dating was on track to change the world and the mind-set of every man, woman and child believing in God, However, some of the fossils that were once thought to be 100's of millions of years old were re-tested and found to be roughly 12 -15 thousand years old. This information and said fossils were quickly gathered and destroyed, so as not to cause a massive butterfly-effect through the annals of our horrifically inaccurate history books.
If I may ask a question, you said there is still more that needs to be understood about all science. While I will certainly not say you are wrong, my question is, what areas of evolution are not fully understood? Your videos make evolution pretty easy to understand, so im wondering what do scientists still not know about the subject?
@truthforchrist =what areas of evolution are not fully understood?= There are still huge areas yet to understand. In biology, what drives the changes that are naturally selected? In paleoanthropology, why did we lose our body hair? Why did we stand upright? In paleontology there are still gaps in the fossil record that need to be filled. That doesn't detract from the huge amount of information we already have, but we can always learn more.
@truthforchrist Simply stated... the theory of evolution is merely a construct - the meaningless existence of illogical and adventitious ideals, created for the sole purpose of separating man from God.
I'll be flamed and ridiculed for making such an assessment, but we all know that debating this theory is completely argumentum ad nauseam! Scientist know it never be accepted (as law) by the Catholic Church and there is nothing they can say or do to change it from a fiction novel to fact.
@fred1671 "The theory of evolution (was).... constructed for the sole purpose of separating man from God."
If an ancient Egyptian were to travel to us in a time machine, they might argue that current atomic theory that explains the way the sun shines is merely a 'fiction constructed to separate man from Isis'. Would you bother to try to enlighten them? Perhaps you would introduce them to your more modern idea of a god that is not refuted by atomic theory.
@Misterb0z I've been known to enlighten a few wayward drifters from time to time, so why not toss in some time-traveling, ancient Egyptians for good measure.
Let me know the time and date of the field trip - I'm ready to kick this party into high gear.
@fred1671 So go on, then. Say for the sake of argument I worship a sun god. I deny nuclear physics. It's clearly a fabricated 'science' designed to separate man from the Truth of the Sun god. Matter can't fuse. Nobody's ever witnessed it happening.
Also proof there^ in the first comment on how you bullying people here:
"Oh that's right. . . You've got nothing but pathetic little insults which just goes to prove my point. Why would anyone debate someone such as yourself when the second you get pointed out on your BS you act like a 5 year old."
Just so you know i have found your every post and told the users to how to report you.
Seems you got higher chances of getting banned. Atlest i dont care wherever i get banned. But you............
Now that being said, its been more than 2 weeks that you "reported" me and I am still here.
So it either does not work, or you get banned too in the future for continuing to flame and spam trolling every time you see me.
Lol see me? you are actually looking for me.
But what pisses me off the most is that by looking up your comments and see how you treat others, it proves that you are worse than me and you trolling and flaming everyone.
So yeah you are a troll as well and you abuse the system
...amazing how vulgar and discourteous all these so called 'enlightened' Darwinian evangelicals are when replying to my expressed view on the mythology of evolution! - unscientific?....or maybe maybe just immaturity? - perhaps after another 10 or 20 years you will have evolved sufficiently to express a view that credits an intelligent reply.
...just a tongue in cheek comment my friend :-) but the basic argument still holds! - there isn't ONE - (yes, that's right) NOT EVEN ONE transitional fossil that has ever been found showing one species changing into another. Evolution is quite simply the biggest con the world of science has ever known. It is an idealogical position used by the secular 'scientific' community to run away from the unavoidable reality of intelligent design and an omnipotent creator.
@Bill131159 Are you serious? Did you honestly not just watch the Video?, you are either a troll or you just clicked on the vid, paused it and wrote your comment. *sigh*
@Bill131159 Read a book on evolution for children or something if you're that ignorant. Every individual of every species is a "transitional form". In a complex organism you'll never see visible changes from one generation to the next(or maybe some cartoon-like magic new organ caught in the act of sprouting out, if that's what you or your preacher is fantasizing about)There are very many genes in each organism's DNA, so you have to wait for quite a few mutations to have occured before you see it
...anyone find a fossil of a one winged bird? or perhaps a fish with three legs? OK....what about a 'whale' with a hand changing into a flipper??? none??? ... you mean ZERO!!! - wonder why? how terribly inconvenient :-) seriously though, the fossil record (like the bible)! can say whatever you want it to say. The nylon eating bacteria managed to mutate....but guess what...when the jar was unscrewed, it was still just a bacteria!....interesting and challenging video though - well presented.
@Bill131159 Why would we ever find a fossil with a one winged bird or a fish with 3 legs? That is not even close to the theory of evolution. It seems you need to learn about it before making comments about it. Watch more of Potholer´s videos. I also recommend Donexodus´s videos and C0C0rdance´s videos. There are also a few dozen books I can recommend.
I really dislike this "Not my science" argument. Evolution is not science. To include it or call it science is misnomer.
Goto (Google It) GoodScienceForYou Neutral Evolution Forum and learn how to learn, without beliefs forced on you. Also listen to some good Blues from my band HavenHead.
Maybe it could've been explained more simply, or the picture quality may have been a tad better... or maybe some found this too painful to observe as their 'theory' clashed and therefore found the need to defend their 'truth'?
@potholer54 i'm an atheist and thought that your logic about gravity and evolution was very amusing. However, just because gravity is true, it doesn't mean evolution is too. however, i think your point is that people don't dismiss gravity as "just a theory" so why evolution? i looked more into depth about gravity, and im confused about whether its a law, theory, or observation. explain?
@TheMrFourteen - An observation is just that – We “observe” the positions of planets, for example. From that we infer that they are orbiting the sun, and from that we infer that masses are attracted by gravity. And we infer that the same theory holds good for falling objects. The law of gravity is the mathematical relationship of this attraction. So there is a theory of gravity and a law of gravity, and both are based on observations.
If evolution is all about natural selection and survival of the fittest, then why do we still have creationists? These people appear to need help in operating doors let alone understanding the elegant and proven facts first proposed by Darwin (and others).
In other news: Why do we need God again? Give me a decent reason for His/Her existence. Morality and purpose are not decent reasons. Neither is "creating the universe".
@nalls96 IS god all loving? all knowing? all powerfull? and created everything?
In that case he created adam and eve knowing that eve would take that apple and thus he planed to punish them and thus he didnt really love his creation but he wanted it to suffer, thus he isnt all loving..
Good that you love god, cuz he sure aint loving you.
If God created the universe how did he do it before he exsisted huh
Oh if adam & eve two white people were the first two people on earth how do we have blacks asians mexicans and so on oh and why aren't we all inbreds huh adam were the only people on earth they fuck eve shoots out some kids those kids fuck each other and so on why aren't we all inbreds i'll tell you why cause God & all that crap about him creating the earth is fucking bullshit
There are books out there that explain it. Creationists like to imagine that the Cambrian Explosion was the sudden emergence of modern phyla in the blink of an eye. In reality, the 'explosion' lasted millions of years. Remarkable, yes, but not a mystery.
In any case, by citing the Cambrian Explosion, creationists are admitting defeat, as they tacitly admit that there was a time 500 MYA!
@Thisawareness What exactly do you you want explained? Like I say, there are books and papers out there that go into great detail. Do you think it's some great unexplained mystery? Evidence? Are you expecting me to put fossils into this text box? Learn to phrase a question properly, then you might get answers you're looking for.
@Misterb0z Again, no evidence or explaination Any one who plays pseudo-teacher on youtube is lame and is grasping at straws. Go somewhere else an play
I can't wait until the J. Craig Venter Institute is able to show completely natural evolution in the artificial life it created (and revealed to the world just a week ago)
In this video potholer rattles off so many logical fallacies that is is repulsive to watch.
Only a brainwashed moron would think this shit is real. How can anybody stand to listen to that pompous arrogant style of speech. Potholer is a moron evotard who is also a coward. I have asked him several times to debate me live on video to destroy his religious bullshit he is inflicting on young people.
GSFY - why would anyone waste time in a formal debate with a know nothing like you. You don't understand the meaning of most scientific terms so you give them your own unique meaning. You make up 'laws' and when questioned you revert to your foul-mouthed rants. You still haven't defined your 'boundaries' or provided any evidence for your chimp nonsense, and yet laughingly you call yourself a 'teachers teacher', you're a joke and we're all laughing at you!
This moron Potsmolker54, does not realize that a chicken with teeth is not evolution , but adaptation. In order to show actual evolution the chicken has to change genus. The foundational genetics must be violated to evolve and that is and never happens.
There is ABSOLUTELY no evidence for evolution on this planet. And religious crap like this is only causing more of the same religious nonsense that science is supposed to stopl
@grendelee Chickens had teeth at one time. That means they grew teeth, then the teeth went away as they were not needed. This is NOT evolution but only adaptation.
There is no evolution, only adaptation to survive as the same creatures. Don't be a dumb ass believer in this shit religion of Evodelusionism.
@GoodScienceForYou adaptation IS evolution. Even you said they have to be a new genus, or something like that, to have teeth. Do you even know what the word evolution means?
@grendelee There is NO evidence in the world of any life form transforming into a new genus or even a complex new form of a species. The definition of evolution requires this. Normal genetics has never shown any evolution. You don't know what you are talking about. I have studied this so called science for over 42 years.
@GoodScienceForYou Plus, what the hell are talking about "transforming into a new genus" that doesnt even make any sense. Do you know what kingdom, genus, species means? Mister "ive been studying "science" for 42 years"
@grendelee There is NO physical evidence for evolution. You are an evotard...that is a mentally retarded person who is not able to think for themselves anymore. You want to believe in this shit, but so do the other evotards, so they perpetuate lies on you and all whom they indoctrinate.
@GoodScienceForYou You didnt answer my answer. you asked for examples of evolution, i gave it to you. The sabretooth tiger, the elephant, the horse. We show it, stage by stage, year by year.
@grendelee That is not the foundational example of evolution. All of those have a genealogy and even if you accept the evidence without DNA to back it, it still does not show any form of evolution. To show evolution you have to cross the genus barrier and that has never happened. A small horse adapting to the environment and making gradual changes with continual foundational genetics is not evolution.
@GoodScienceForYou Yes it IS the foundational example of evolution. You really dont have an understanding at all. You seriously dont. I just GAVE you an example with the sabretooth tiger, or smilodon. Its a genus, and now its descendants are a DIFFERENT genus. There you go. What are you possibly going to say to argue with that.
@grendelee The definition of genus is wrong according to what it was. You people keep changing the fundamental definitions of already defined scientific terms to match this dumb ass religous belief of yours..
You cannot call them a new genus, simply because you want to. They must become a new totally different creature with no resemblance to the old. They have to cross boundaries from mammal to reptile or to bird or to fish. They don't.
@GoodScienceForYou do YOU even know what the word genus means? Genus doesnt mean fish or bird, lol. Did you just pick that word out of somewhere? I just gave you a good example that anyone can understand. You did not refute it, just admitted you dont know what a word means.Cmon now, sillyhead
@grendelee Genus has been redefined many times. I use the original meaning, because what you arbitrarily call "genus" is not. The Genus is based on the "first" creature to have that unique genetic structure. As that genetic structure adapts to the environment, its foundational genetics is never altered. Many sub-species with simple morph changes has never shown the possibility of any new genus developing. That is real science.
@GoodScienceForYou So you ask for an example, i give you one, and then you change the definition of genus from what it ACTUALLY MEANS, to something you just made up. Wow, thats true science there, not HEMG
@grendelee This definition has been around for about 100 years as best as I can gather. It wasn't until the religion of Evodelusionism took hold in academia's pseudo science studies that it was changed. Most all of the Cladistic charts are fantasy, based on beliefs and not much else,,,no physical evidence to back this.
@grendelee It is the foundational DNA, Chromosome set up of that lineage that never changes. Creatures adapt to survive as the same creatures. They do not adapt to evolve. It is also a two way process. An adaptation will be used for a while, then it is not used and does not become a permanent feature. The Chicken's teeth is a perfect example. The finches in the Galapagos; perfect example. To have evolution implies false ideas that are no shown in the real world.
@grendelee If there's no physical evidence to back an idea, then most likely it is not true or not proven. There is no physical evidence of any creature breaking the boundaries of foundational genetics. Once those boundaries are met, by the environment to the point of causing stress on the organism, extinction is the result.
No creature has ever broken out of their limitations of how they are made. The ones that are still here after 125 MY r perfect examples of no evolution, only adaptation.
GSFY - you keep on using this 'boundaries of their genetic limitations' or 'foundational genetics' argument but when asked how we can determine such boundaries for any species you duck the question. You also duck the question of what mechanism stops a further mutation when a creature is at one of your supposed boundaries. If you cannot determine such a boundary or identify any mechanism then your argument is as worthless as all the others you make.
@grendelee - GSFY makes the claim about his 'boundaries of their genetic limitations' or 'foundational genetics' on a large number of evolution videos, and yet when challenged he won't tell us how we determine any such boundary or identify a mechanism that might be involved. Strangely he doesn't like to be taken for a creationist, so appears to have dressed up their 'kinds' argument in his own personal babble, and if pressed with revert to rant mode.
@KrokrX When something is obvious and shown in all the evidence we have, why is it you can't see it? Could it be "brainwashing" perhaps? It is so fucking obvious that only fucking evotards can't see it. Here is just one example.
@GoodScienceForYou The "Chickens with teeth" is another. They had teeth then devolved away from them as they are not needed. Species adapt to a point then either are still here or are extinct. There is no physical evidence showing any evolution into new species from less complex forms. It does not exist. No fish ever walked on land with the intention of becoming humans. It is so fucking ridiculous that only a retarded nut case could believe this shit.
GSFY - once again you display your ignorance of what the theory of evolution actually is. No scientist has ever suggested that fish 'walked on land with the intention of becoming humans', that's a common old creationist strawman. It seems you use a lot of rehashed old creationist arguments, and despite making clearly religious statements you keep on trying to deny your religious beliefs, that's really quite sad.
@KrokrX You know darn well this is what is taught. When someone takes you for a ride, the final premise or final destination they are taking you is where you need to investigate first. Then work backwards to prove it. This is the true scientific method, by the way. There is no evidence that comes close to this idea on this planet. Why did you let them do this to you? Seriously, look what an asshole you have become.
GSFY - you lie, once again. No scientist has ever suggested that fish 'walked on land with the intention of becoming humans', that's a common old creationist strawman. If you're so ignorant about evolution after you claim to have read 'over 20,000' papers then it doesn't speak well of your comprehension skills, but quite honestly that doesn't surprise me. You're so ill-educated on science matters that you have a habit of just making stuff up and then trying to bluff your way, sad!
@KrokrX If mud skippers evolved into mud skippers 400 fantasy million years ago, why are they still mud skippers? HMM? How long does it take for this magical process to take place? You do know that there is no way for any of this to be verified, yet you fall for this shit, as if it was real. You don't have the ability to see anything at all. You are blind and ignorant.
GSFY - your ignorance of the theory of evolution is breathtaking for someone who claims to have read so many papers on it. That's the problem when you consider your years of studying yoga more relevant than the years of scientific research by real scientists. Enough trying to change the subject, how about the evidence for your 'boundaries' or chimp nonsense which you claimed was so 'obvious'?
GSFY - and while you're at it, perhaps you'll also tell us how long it took for the Neanderthals, which you claim were the result of mating between humans and chimps, to form a sustainable population that could journey out of Africa to populate the middle-east and Europe? As this all happened, according to you, at least 500 years after the building of the pyramids why did no-one notice, and how do you explain their remains being found in much lower layers than human ones?
@KrokrX How do you explain the fact that recent DNA evidence shows interbreeding with human? You can't. The problem is the radiometric dating of petrified fossils does not work.
GSFY - how does that have anything to do with the earlier comments? I've got to give it to you, you may be the craziest whackjob here on YT, and that's no small achievement with the likes of your 'nice man' Nephi to contend with, but you are pure entertainment gold! I can only apologise for not being sufficiently aware of your credentials when I voted for another candidate in the last Golden Crocoduck awards. Please make some more videos so you can be properly recognised this year.
GSFY - you've also claimed on multiple occasions that we shouldn't talk about creationism vs evolution and yet you've recently posted 4 creationist videos on your channel! Or perhaps you didn't realise that the 'scientists' they featured were well known religiously motivated creationists, and Wells is even a Moonie! Thought you said you wanted religion out of science?
GSFY - I also noticed that you say on the creationist videos you uploaded that you will only accept comments from 'friends', and you've already disabled ratings and deleted comments you didn't like. Considering the comments you leave on other people's videos that makes you a first class hypocrite - what are you scared of?
GSFY - seen it, and just like all your old videos it's plain nonsense, which is why you disabled ratings. The comments from other posters that you left up make that point quite well. You have an outstanding inability to make a coherent argument and this video is no exception. Please make some more videos so you can be properly recognised in this year's Golden Crocoduck award, pretty please!!
@KrokrX You are a coward. You never answer any of my questions, because you can't. You are too stupid to understand the questions, much less have a clue what the answers are. Here's one again. How do you explain the fact that recent DNA evidence shows Neanderthals interbreeding with humans? You can't. The problem is the radiometric dating of petrified fossils does not work.
DNA evidence does not show interbreeding of gorillas and humans. But, as I've said before, have sex with a gorilla and, if you produce a chimp, I'll send your widow 1/2 of the proceeds from the sale of the video.
Are you going to send some more voodoo karma my way?
GSFY - but what has this to do with your claim that humans mated with gorillas to produce chimps,and that humans then mated with chimps to produce Neanderthals, and all less than 4k years ago - over 500yrs after the building of the pyramids!? You still haven't told us the specific DNA sequences or ERV patterns that you claim make this 'obvious', which suggest that rather than you being the "teacher's teacher" you claim, that you're simply a creationist clown!
GSFY - don't forget, we're still waiting for your definition of your 'boundaries of their foundational genetics'; we're still waiting to hear how you can determine such a boundary for any living creature or any evidence for any kind of limiting mechanism.
And humans had tails before they evolved, er,... adapted. Of course, we wouldn't call them humans except for those humans today born with tails. Oh, and some of those tails are not just nonfunctional tumor-like structures, some have bones and muscle and blood supply. Explain that, Jimbo!
GSFY - I've seen the video but it doesn't address the questions I posed. You claim everything is so 'obvious' and yet you continually fail to explain the details despite claiming to be the 'teachers teacher'. How do we determine your claimed 'boundary' for any particular organism? What mechanism exists to stop an organism that is at your 'boundary' from mutating beyond it? Are you afraid of showing your scienitific illiteracy, it hasn't stopped you before.
GSFY - you keep on using this 'boundaries of their genetic limitations' or 'foundational genetics' argument but when asked how we can determine such boundaries for any species you duck the question. You also duck the question of what mechanism stops a further mutation when a creature is at one of your supposed boundaries. If you cannot determine such a boundary or identify any mechanism then your argument is as worthless as all the others you make.
@KrokrX The question has obvious answers for those who look at the evidence, and not project what they think they see as you do. No creature has ever changed into an entirely new genus. All creatures have a genealogy from a parent group with nothing prior to that parent group.
No bacteria has ever evolved. Horses have never evolved. No cow has become a whale. There is no evidence of any creature that has ever broken the boundaries of its foundational genetics. It is clear as can be.
GSFY - if 'the question has obvious answers' you should be able to give them then. How do we determine your 'boundaries' for any specific organism, and what mechanism exists to stop a creature at such a 'boundary' from mutating beyond it? How do you define your 'boundaries' that you seem to group all bacteria together and yet recognise the relatively smaller genomic differences between a horse and cow?
@GoodScienceForYou When have you grown up and abandon your fairy tales? With all you Human Emotional Mental Garbage and Sideways Logic, you couldn't find a premise with all your hidden Icons getting in the way.
Honestly, do you really believe in any of that crap you spew? It makes for good comedy, but it shows you’re in dire need of a mental health professional; provided, of course, if you want to get better and join the human race. Otherwise, a long walk off a short pier might be in order.
@jackdeath I stongly suggest that you get your education by actual study of the evidence, instead of being brainwashed. Typically humans are wrong on most things they believe in. This has been historically proven always and has never changed.
@GoodScienceForYou I suggested a metal health professional for good reason. You are suffering from an oblivious break with reality, type 3 paranoid personality disorder with possible schizophrenic megalomania. You cannot replace the facts with your own fantasies and expect people to take you seriously. You may have a god complex and really believe the nonsense you’re spewing, but that is all the more reason to seek professional help. Good luck with that....
@GoodScienceForYou Unfortunetly, you idea of evidence and belief are self-delusional, which has no basis in fact or reality. You don't accept any authority but your own and dismiss all other true authorities as 'Icons'. As a result, the methodology for your belief system is rooted in mental illness. You can’t be your own arbiter of the facts and call it evidence. The real world doesn’t work that way, no matter how much your may wish it, and people will call you out on it whenever you do.
@jackdeath Listen you fucking moron! I don't believe in anything that is not absolutely proven to me. If you go with the fucking brainwashing that is your fucking problem. Is that clear asshole? You are embedded in mythological beliefs. I have none, no religion, no beliefs. I find that putting shit in my brain that comes from mythology to be repulsive and people who's religion causes belief in shit like Evodelusionism are repulsive . Your crap that you disguise as science is disgusting.
GSFY - your foul-mouthed rants don't impress anyone, they simply confirm your mental illness and deeply delusional state. You lie so frequently you don't even seem to realise when you're doing it! You keep claiming to have no beliefs, yet you've made countless religious statements that you try to ignore when we point them out. Jimmy, get some professional help and take the medications offered.
@GoodScienceForYou: "Listen you fucking moron! I don't believe in anything that is not absolutely proven to me". Really? You have written that you believe in God. So what was the evidence that was "absolutely proven" to you?
@GoodScienceForYou - p.s. IF it were true that you had NO beliefs, then you would NOT believe in God. That would make you an atheist, something you claim not to be. You are one huge contradiction. How long have you lived in your castle in the sky?
@AlanCFA I know there is truth. My God is Truth. This is not a belief. I know there is truth. If you don't know this, then you are fucked in the head.
@GoodScienceForYou Classic example! Classic example of someone suffering from a god complex. You don't believe in god but you know there is truth, and that truth is god, and that god is you! Why. Because you know all the truth....
Bullshit. You wrote: "We are honest Christians who believe in God and believe in what is taught". You are a Christian, so don't give us this crap that your "God is truth".
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But if you have changed your beliefs since you wrote that you were a Christian, then fine - take this opportunity to reply to me and deny Christ.
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It's simple enough if your "God is Truth". But somehow, I think that you will avoid any such act.
@GoodScienceForYou I am sorry if I am causing you to experience any cognitive dissonance, but you need to break out of your childhood mold. All children begin life believing they know the answers to everything, but most grow out of that logical fallacy by the end of their teenage years. Somehow, you never did. After watching all of your video lectures on what you call science, I can clearly see that you base your beliefs on your own personally deluded mythology and not the scientific method.
@jackdeath I want you to demonstrate to me exactly how the scientific method is and has been used in this fucking religion of yours. And do you even know what the scientific method actually is? Fuck head!
@GoodScienceForYou Still suffering from cognitive dissonance, I see. Well...with that mental illness of yours, we should not blame you for that.
Oh, unfortunately, religions do not have a scientific methodology. They are all faith based, like your video lectures on what you call science. I doubt you are capable of understanding the truth until you have undergone psychotherapy. Until you receive help and are willing to rejoin the human race, there is not much more that anyone can do for you.
@GoodScienceForYou - when are you starting that musical tour of Europe? Your avant garde blend of a gerbil in a garbage disposal combined with lyrics that mirror your white board presentations will be unlike anything else the EU has ever experienced.
@AlanCFA Holland is a beautiful place. The people are great. It has an extremely high percentage of satisfied and happy people. They are industrious and they enjoy time off from work. They know how to have fun. Waarom wil je de slaaf van andere onwetende mensen zijn?
@jackdeath OK. MORON! Where is your absolute evidence for creatures breaking the laws of genetics and transforming from one celled to humans? Where is this evidence, dumb ass? It must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausible answer and NO dumb ass opinions from delusional believers who are brainwashed like you. If you had this evidence there would be no argument, DUMB ASS!
GSFY - what is your 'absolute evidence' for your 'boundaries of their foundational genetics', or your daft gorillas mating within humans to produce chimps notion, or your 'Lord God Jehovah' - without it, according to you, you're the 'DUMB ASS!', but we already know that! You're not only probably the dumbest creationist here on YT, but quite possibly the most dishonest, and clearly suffering from inherited mental disability. Get some professional help and take the medications offered.
@GoodScienceForYou There are an abundance of book written for children answering the age old question of where babies come from. In it you will find the story of two cells with different DNA (from each parent) combining to form a new cell with its own unique DNA, which will in 9 months will grow into a human baby. I would encourage you to rush out and find one of these books, but, alas, biologists who subscribe to the same ‘Icons’ you so decry wrote it.
@GSFY "It must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausible answer...". Bullshit - Theories are made of facts, but the theories almost always have other plausible answers, it is simply that the theories that are most widely accepted represent the best explanation, not the only one.
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Your challenge to me to grab contacts on an electrical panel shows your ignorance. It's a fact that electricity flows from a positive to a ground, but the theory as to WHY that happens is malleable.
@GoodScienceForYou - you still fail to answer KrokrX's challenge: "what is your 'absolute evidence' for your 'boundaries of their foundational genetics', or your daft gorillas mating within humans to produce chimps..."
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What's the matter - don't you have an answer, Mr. 180 IQ?
@GoodScienceForYou "If you had this evidence there would be no argument, DUMB ASS!" Quite. And there is no argument about the Theory of Evolution, only amongst lay members of the public with no understanding of the science, or who have been told that the Bible is a literal account of how our world came into existence.
@GoodScienceForYou: "Anyone who believes in fairy tales, its OK, as long as you realize it is a fairy tale". You're describing the Bible, not the theory of evolution.
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GSFY: "we are honest Christians who believe in God and believe in what is taught".
@grendelee I know all of your religious beliefs, since 1962. I know all the ridiculous claims of the religious nut jobs in Evodelusionism. I have no religion.
The horse has never violated its foundational genetics. Adaptation is not evolution. There is no evidence in DNA that any form of adaptation results in evolution into a new creature. I suggest that you study this far from the delusional assholes who own your mind.
This moron Potsmoker54 neglects to tell you what nylon is made from. Because he doesn't want to inform you that nylon is mostly carbon. Bacteria only digests organic carbon and synthesizes carbon dioxide. There is no such thing as synthetic carbon. Go learn about chemistry first then listen to this shit. I did. Bacteria adapts, it does not evolve. If it remains as bacteria then NO evolution took place.
GoodScienceForYou, you need to watch the made easy series. Just FYI, potholer54debunks channel has made a fool of you several times. So you should be ashamed of yourself.
let's forget all this name-calling & personal opinions; would you evolutionists pls. cite, if any (you shouldn't have trouble quoting many) actual current scientific? projects, doctors/scientists, journals/papers (Nature magz, Scientific American, etc.) , published works, etc (cosmologists, molecular biologists, palaeontologists, physicists, astronomers, bio-chemists, etc. that actually back each other up) to once-and-for-all silence the deafeaning flaws & weakness in evolutionary theory?!??!
. In order to find the truth, you stop believing in things that are lacking in absolute evidence that requires no interpretation. If you have to have some believer interpret the truth, then you are in real trouble, because belief is the problem. Believers have no credibility, because they live in fantasy of belief based on nothing but projection of belief all around them.
no just the fact it miss uses empirical evidence distorts the English language culminating into so much babel tripe trying to be pass of as science. Mr Potholer's evidence video points to Darwins short comings but instead of reevaluating the theory He take evidence that points in the opposite direction and hocs pocs evolution is still a theory. And thats the real magic of evolution one day it will evolve into the the totally inevitable fact of intellect design but long as society loves a lie
wait you wanna talk about evidence AND intelligent design? because those two do not go hand in hand. any evidence for design only prove that species were all affected by the same natural processes. every part that is claimed to have "Irreducible Complexity" has been shown how it could have evolved. even if evolution IS wrong, it still fits the evidence better than any other theory and is not contradicted by any so we are going to believe evolution until assholes like you pull some evidence out.
Yea! Cartoons are fraud on children. Animating creatures that never lived are often used to fill in the blanks where there is no evidence. Since there is no evidence for evolution, and these people like Potholer54 are delusional and so brainwashed that they have no ability to see the huge pile of logical fallacies they have been brainwashed with; you will never get them to give it up, just too darn brainwashed and so full of ego and pride to realize how stupid they are.
Scientific animations usually attempt to bring to life species that we have a plethora of information about, including an abundance of fossils that we can extrapolate to reliably infer what a creature may have looked like WHEN (not if) it lived.
What is delusional is the amount of rhetoric you managed to cram into two posts just now; raising contentions on a subject without demonstrating your understanding of the matter or explaining what your contentions actually are.
So, you think it is OK to fool little children with fake cartoons? What is wrong with your mind. Are you so weak that you would allow this to yourself as well as others? How can you be that gullible?
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NoneShaltPass 3 months ago
LOL they made the British narrator say zeeebra (American) instead of zebra (English).
2camjohn 4 months ago
@2camjohn I'm currently imagining hundreds of little Potholers running about in a big warehouse somewhere. FYI, they all look like dwarfs from Snow White.
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MuslimRationalizer 4 months ago
Infant head circumference growth is saltatory and coupled to length growth.
Early Human Development
Volume 87, Issue 5, May 2011, Pages 361-368
sallyamis 5 months ago
Why do you claim to know how animals change during gaps in the fossil record?
There is even some evidence that animal growth is saltatory rather than gradual.
sallyamis 5 months ago
@sallyamis if there is a long period of time between the two fossils, it is impossible to think there was no natural selection in between. It can take it's course over shorter periods of time as well, unless the species are too close together in time. Then it would appear as if one suddenly gave birth to another, but we know that does not happen.
PointlessSteel 3 months ago
fake and gay
Jrmysttn874 5 months ago
@Jrmysttn874 lol
shagoosty 4 months ago
Thank you for the response, and again, please do not think I'm trying to argue :) Is it possible that we may never find the gaps in the fossil record? Can an event cause dead bodies to never be fossilized (for example, can a comet or volcano vaporize them)? Or is it as simple as the fossils just haven't been found yet?
truthforchrist 6 months ago
@truthforchrist =Is it possible that we may never find the gaps in the fossil record?= Not just possible, but a certainty. If you find a fossil to fill a gap between two fossils, you open up two new gaps. If you find two fossils to fill those gaps, you now have four more gaps. Most organisms don't fossilize, by the way, especially land organisms.
potholer54 6 months ago
@truthforchrist Also worth noting... Carbon dating was on track to change the world and the mind-set of every man, woman and child believing in God, However, some of the fossils that were once thought to be 100's of millions of years old were re-tested and found to be roughly 12 -15 thousand years old. This information and said fossils were quickly gathered and destroyed, so as not to cause a massive butterfly-effect through the annals of our horrifically inaccurate history books.
fred1671 2 months ago
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types10000 2 months ago
If I may ask a question, you said there is still more that needs to be understood about all science. While I will certainly not say you are wrong, my question is, what areas of evolution are not fully understood? Your videos make evolution pretty easy to understand, so im wondering what do scientists still not know about the subject?
truthforchrist 6 months ago
@truthforchrist =what areas of evolution are not fully understood?= There are still huge areas yet to understand. In biology, what drives the changes that are naturally selected? In paleoanthropology, why did we lose our body hair? Why did we stand upright? In paleontology there are still gaps in the fossil record that need to be filled. That doesn't detract from the huge amount of information we already have, but we can always learn more.
potholer54 6 months ago
@truthforchrist Simply stated... the theory of evolution is merely a construct - the meaningless existence of illogical and adventitious ideals, created for the sole purpose of separating man from God.
I'll be flamed and ridiculed for making such an assessment, but we all know that debating this theory is completely argumentum ad nauseam! Scientist know it never be accepted (as law) by the Catholic Church and there is nothing they can say or do to change it from a fiction novel to fact.
fred1671 2 months ago
@fred1671 "The theory of evolution (was).... constructed for the sole purpose of separating man from God."
If an ancient Egyptian were to travel to us in a time machine, they might argue that current atomic theory that explains the way the sun shines is merely a 'fiction constructed to separate man from Isis'. Would you bother to try to enlighten them? Perhaps you would introduce them to your more modern idea of a god that is not refuted by atomic theory.
Misterb0z 2 months ago
@Misterb0z I've been known to enlighten a few wayward drifters from time to time, so why not toss in some time-traveling, ancient Egyptians for good measure.
Let me know the time and date of the field trip - I'm ready to kick this party into high gear.
fred1671 2 months ago
@fred1671 So go on, then. Say for the sake of argument I worship a sun god. I deny nuclear physics. It's clearly a fabricated 'science' designed to separate man from the Truth of the Sun god. Matter can't fuse. Nobody's ever witnessed it happening.
What do you say to me?
Misterb0z 2 months ago
Also proof there^ in the first comment on how you bullying people here:
"Oh that's right. . . You've got nothing but pathetic little insults which just goes to prove my point. Why would anyone debate someone such as yourself when the second you get pointed out on your BS you act like a 5 year old."
Just so you know i have found your every post and told the users to how to report you.
Seems you got higher chances of getting banned. Atlest i dont care wherever i get banned. But you............
au25 8 months ago
Now that being said, its been more than 2 weeks that you "reported" me and I am still here.
So it either does not work, or you get banned too in the future for continuing to flame and spam trolling every time you see me.
Lol see me? you are actually looking for me.
But what pisses me off the most is that by looking up your comments and see how you treat others, it proves that you are worse than me and you trolling and flaming everyone.
So yeah you are a troll as well and you abuse the system
au25 8 months ago
...amazing how vulgar and discourteous all these so called 'enlightened' Darwinian evangelicals are when replying to my expressed view on the mythology of evolution! - unscientific?....or maybe maybe just immaturity? - perhaps after another 10 or 20 years you will have evolved sufficiently to express a view that credits an intelligent reply.
Bill131159 8 months ago
Hey y'all....does anyone have more info on the werewolf looking dude in this video.....very impressive...
thanx...
tik
sixtiksix 8 months ago
...just a tongue in cheek comment my friend :-) but the basic argument still holds! - there isn't ONE - (yes, that's right) NOT EVEN ONE transitional fossil that has ever been found showing one species changing into another. Evolution is quite simply the biggest con the world of science has ever known. It is an idealogical position used by the secular 'scientific' community to run away from the unavoidable reality of intelligent design and an omnipotent creator.
Bill131159 10 months ago
@Bill131159 Satire?
SoggyPoridge 9 months ago
@Bill131159 Are you serious? Did you honestly not just watch the Video?, you are either a troll or you just clicked on the vid, paused it and wrote your comment. *sigh*
kittley1984 9 months ago
@Bill131159 Read a book on evolution for children or something if you're that ignorant. Every individual of every species is a "transitional form". In a complex organism you'll never see visible changes from one generation to the next(or maybe some cartoon-like magic new organ caught in the act of sprouting out, if that's what you or your preacher is fantasizing about)There are very many genes in each organism's DNA, so you have to wait for quite a few mutations to have occured before you see it
winterstellar 8 months ago
...anyone find a fossil of a one winged bird? or perhaps a fish with three legs? OK....what about a 'whale' with a hand changing into a flipper??? none??? ... you mean ZERO!!! - wonder why? how terribly inconvenient :-) seriously though, the fossil record (like the bible)! can say whatever you want it to say. The nylon eating bacteria managed to mutate....but guess what...when the jar was unscrewed, it was still just a bacteria!....interesting and challenging video though - well presented.
Bill131159 10 months ago
@Bill131159 Why would we ever find a fossil with a one winged bird or a fish with 3 legs? That is not even close to the theory of evolution. It seems you need to learn about it before making comments about it. Watch more of Potholer´s videos. I also recommend Donexodus´s videos and C0C0rdance´s videos. There are also a few dozen books I can recommend.
papasitoman 10 months ago
If GoodScienceForYou wants to tout his forum let's show you some of his 'science' quotes there, try not to laugh -
-Diamond are no longer carbon, they are diamonds.
-Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.
-The cause of sickle cell anemia is unknown, dumb ass.
-Carbon is the only thing that makes us "carbon" based creatures
-There is no answer for the diversity of life. It just is.
-There are only two species of bacteria.
Anyone think they can learn anything from this clown?
KrokrX 11 months ago
I really dislike this "Not my science" argument. Evolution is not science. To include it or call it science is misnomer.
Goto (Google It) GoodScienceForYou Neutral Evolution Forum and learn how to learn, without beliefs forced on you. Also listen to some good Blues from my band HavenHead.
GoodScienceForYou 11 months ago
evolution is a bad fairy tale.
darkfur35 1 year ago
@darkfur35 Do you have a specific point of contention?
hugesinker 1 year ago
Why on earth would anyone thumbs-down this?
Maybe it could've been explained more simply, or the picture quality may have been a tad better... or maybe some found this too painful to observe as their 'theory' clashed and therefore found the need to defend their 'truth'?
But since when has truth needed defending?
whirlpoolzend 1 year ago
@potholer54 i'm an atheist and thought that your logic about gravity and evolution was very amusing. However, just because gravity is true, it doesn't mean evolution is too. however, i think your point is that people don't dismiss gravity as "just a theory" so why evolution? i looked more into depth about gravity, and im confused about whether its a law, theory, or observation. explain?
TheMrFourteen 1 year ago
@TheMrFourteen - An observation is just that – We “observe” the positions of planets, for example. From that we infer that they are orbiting the sun, and from that we infer that masses are attracted by gravity. And we infer that the same theory holds good for falling objects. The law of gravity is the mathematical relationship of this attraction. So there is a theory of gravity and a law of gravity, and both are based on observations.
potholer54 1 year ago
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If evolution is all about natural selection and survival of the fittest, then why do we still have creationists? These people appear to need help in operating doors let alone understanding the elegant and proven facts first proposed by Darwin (and others).
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
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GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
@nalls96
trololol
In other news: Why do we need God again? Give me a decent reason for His/Her existence. Morality and purpose are not decent reasons. Neither is "creating the universe".
ungulateman 1 year ago
146 people got a failing grade on their report on this vid.
June28July 1 year ago
i love god and what ever ppl say i can challenge you of whatever you have to say that god isn't real, just try me >:D
nalls96 1 year ago
@nalls96 IS god all loving? all knowing? all powerfull? and created everything?
In that case he created adam and eve knowing that eve would take that apple and thus he planed to punish them and thus he didnt really love his creation but he wanted it to suffer, thus he isnt all loving..
Good that you love god, cuz he sure aint loving you.
Sweddude 1 year ago
@nalls96 gods are not real. Have a nice day.
wowamonn 1 year ago
@nalls96 troll....
mrjpvoid 1 year ago
ur a retard if you believe in god
If God created the universe how did he do it before he exsisted huh
Oh if adam & eve two white people were the first two people on earth how do we have blacks asians mexicans and so on oh and why aren't we all inbreds huh adam were the only people on earth they fuck eve shoots out some kids those kids fuck each other and so on why aren't we all inbreds i'll tell you why cause God & all that crap about him creating the earth is fucking bullshit
godsfuckingbullshit 1 year ago
Creationists are denialists.
kanmoreti 1 year ago
@kanmoreti God Sux
godsfuckingbullshit 1 year ago
@godsfuckingbullshit How can something that doesn't exist suck? :/
kanmoreti 1 year ago
@kanmoreti ur right man
godsfuckingbullshit 1 year ago
Very unhappy choice of human subject... it almost DIS-proves evolution! hehehhe
foketesz 1 year ago
Please explain the Cambrian Explosion
Thisawareness 1 year ago
@Thisawareness "Please explain the Cambrian Explosion"
There are books out there that explain it. Creationists like to imagine that the Cambrian Explosion was the sudden emergence of modern phyla in the blink of an eye. In reality, the 'explosion' lasted millions of years. Remarkable, yes, but not a mystery.
In any case, by citing the Cambrian Explosion, creationists are admitting defeat, as they tacitly admit that there was a time 500 MYA!
Misterb0z 1 year ago
@Misterb0z No explaination and no evidence. Why did you comment me without either of both?
Thisawareness 1 year ago
@Thisawareness What exactly do you you want explained? Like I say, there are books and papers out there that go into great detail. Do you think it's some great unexplained mystery? Evidence? Are you expecting me to put fossils into this text box? Learn to phrase a question properly, then you might get answers you're looking for.
Misterb0z 1 year ago
@Misterb0z Again, no evidence or explaination Any one who plays pseudo-teacher on youtube is lame and is grasping at straws. Go somewhere else an play
Thisawareness 1 year ago
I can't wait until the J. Craig Venter Institute is able to show completely natural evolution in the artificial life it created (and revealed to the world just a week ago)
Craigipedia 1 year ago
In this video potholer rattles off so many logical fallacies that is is repulsive to watch.
Only a brainwashed moron would think this shit is real. How can anybody stand to listen to that pompous arrogant style of speech. Potholer is a moron evotard who is also a coward. I have asked him several times to debate me live on video to destroy his religious bullshit he is inflicting on young people.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - why would anyone waste time in a formal debate with a know nothing like you. You don't understand the meaning of most scientific terms so you give them your own unique meaning. You make up 'laws' and when questioned you revert to your foul-mouthed rants. You still haven't defined your 'boundaries' or provided any evidence for your chimp nonsense, and yet laughingly you call yourself a 'teachers teacher', you're a joke and we're all laughing at you!
KrokrX 1 year ago
lol, Bush :)
ShwangShwing 1 year ago
This moron potholer says there are no marine fossils above that line. That is because fish live in water, which obviously was below that line.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
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This moron Potsmolker54, does not realize that a chicken with teeth is not evolution , but adaptation. In order to show actual evolution the chicken has to change genus. The foundational genetics must be violated to evolve and that is and never happens.
There is ABSOLUTELY no evidence for evolution on this planet. And religious crap like this is only causing more of the same religious nonsense that science is supposed to stopl
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou What the FUCK did you just say about chickens?
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee Chickens had teeth at one time. That means they grew teeth, then the teeth went away as they were not needed. This is NOT evolution but only adaptation.
There is no evolution, only adaptation to survive as the same creatures. Don't be a dumb ass believer in this shit religion of Evodelusionism.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou adaptation IS evolution. Even you said they have to be a new genus, or something like that, to have teeth. Do you even know what the word evolution means?
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee There is NO evidence in the world of any life form transforming into a new genus or even a complex new form of a species. The definition of evolution requires this. Normal genetics has never shown any evolution. You don't know what you are talking about. I have studied this so called science for over 42 years.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou Genetics HAVE shown evolution, its shown all the goddam time. Your either just a liar or a troll. Why do chicken have teeth?
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee Genetics only shows adaptation of creatures to survive, not to evolve.
There is no evidence of any evolution on this planet.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou Plus, what the hell are talking about "transforming into a new genus" that doesnt even make any sense. Do you know what kingdom, genus, species means? Mister "ive been studying "science" for 42 years"
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee There is NO physical evidence for evolution. You are an evotard...that is a mentally retarded person who is not able to think for themselves anymore. You want to believe in this shit, but so do the other evotards, so they perpetuate lies on you and all whom they indoctrinate.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@grendelee These Cladistic terms are arbitrary, made up to fit the belief. Take away the belief and redo all the charts and it shows no evolution.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou You didnt answer my answer. you asked for examples of evolution, i gave it to you. The sabretooth tiger, the elephant, the horse. We show it, stage by stage, year by year.
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee That is not the foundational example of evolution. All of those have a genealogy and even if you accept the evidence without DNA to back it, it still does not show any form of evolution. To show evolution you have to cross the genus barrier and that has never happened. A small horse adapting to the environment and making gradual changes with continual foundational genetics is not evolution.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou Yes it IS the foundational example of evolution. You really dont have an understanding at all. You seriously dont. I just GAVE you an example with the sabretooth tiger, or smilodon. Its a genus, and now its descendants are a DIFFERENT genus. There you go. What are you possibly going to say to argue with that.
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee The definition of genus is wrong according to what it was. You people keep changing the fundamental definitions of already defined scientific terms to match this dumb ass religous belief of yours..
You cannot call them a new genus, simply because you want to. They must become a new totally different creature with no resemblance to the old. They have to cross boundaries from mammal to reptile or to bird or to fish. They don't.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou do YOU even know what the word genus means? Genus doesnt mean fish or bird, lol. Did you just pick that word out of somewhere? I just gave you a good example that anyone can understand. You did not refute it, just admitted you dont know what a word means.Cmon now, sillyhead
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee Genus has been redefined many times. I use the original meaning, because what you arbitrarily call "genus" is not. The Genus is based on the "first" creature to have that unique genetic structure. As that genetic structure adapts to the environment, its foundational genetics is never altered. Many sub-species with simple morph changes has never shown the possibility of any new genus developing. That is real science.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou What the hell are "foundational genetics"
grendelee 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou So you ask for an example, i give you one, and then you change the definition of genus from what it ACTUALLY MEANS, to something you just made up. Wow, thats true science there, not HEMG
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee This definition has been around for about 100 years as best as I can gather. It wasn't until the religion of Evodelusionism took hold in academia's pseudo science studies that it was changed. Most all of the Cladistic charts are fantasy, based on beliefs and not much else,,,no physical evidence to back this.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou so what the fuck is "foundational genetics"
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee It is the foundational DNA, Chromosome set up of that lineage that never changes. Creatures adapt to survive as the same creatures. They do not adapt to evolve. It is also a two way process. An adaptation will be used for a while, then it is not used and does not become a permanent feature. The Chicken's teeth is a perfect example. The finches in the Galapagos; perfect example. To have evolution implies false ideas that are no shown in the real world.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@grendelee If there's no physical evidence to back an idea, then most likely it is not true or not proven. There is no physical evidence of any creature breaking the boundaries of foundational genetics. Once those boundaries are met, by the environment to the point of causing stress on the organism, extinction is the result.
No creature has ever broken out of their limitations of how they are made. The ones that are still here after 125 MY r perfect examples of no evolution, only adaptation.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - you keep on using this 'boundaries of their genetic limitations' or 'foundational genetics' argument but when asked how we can determine such boundaries for any species you duck the question. You also duck the question of what mechanism stops a further mutation when a creature is at one of your supposed boundaries. If you cannot determine such a boundary or identify any mechanism then your argument is as worthless as all the others you make.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@grendelee - GSFY makes the claim about his 'boundaries of their genetic limitations' or 'foundational genetics' on a large number of evolution videos, and yet when challenged he won't tell us how we determine any such boundary or identify a mechanism that might be involved. Strangely he doesn't like to be taken for a creationist, so appears to have dressed up their 'kinds' argument in his own personal babble, and if pressed with revert to rant mode.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@KrokrX -sorry that last 'with' should be 'will'.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@KrokrX When something is obvious and shown in all the evidence we have, why is it you can't see it? Could it be "brainwashing" perhaps? It is so fucking obvious that only fucking evotards can't see it. Here is just one example.
watch?v=lDX4gIUv9kI
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou The "Chickens with teeth" is another. They had teeth then devolved away from them as they are not needed. Species adapt to a point then either are still here or are extinct. There is no physical evidence showing any evolution into new species from less complex forms. It does not exist. No fish ever walked on land with the intention of becoming humans. It is so fucking ridiculous that only a retarded nut case could believe this shit.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - once again you display your ignorance of what the theory of evolution actually is. No scientist has ever suggested that fish 'walked on land with the intention of becoming humans', that's a common old creationist strawman. It seems you use a lot of rehashed old creationist arguments, and despite making clearly religious statements you keep on trying to deny your religious beliefs, that's really quite sad.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@KrokrX You know darn well this is what is taught. When someone takes you for a ride, the final premise or final destination they are taking you is where you need to investigate first. Then work backwards to prove it. This is the true scientific method, by the way. There is no evidence that comes close to this idea on this planet. Why did you let them do this to you? Seriously, look what an asshole you have become.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - you lie, once again. No scientist has ever suggested that fish 'walked on land with the intention of becoming humans', that's a common old creationist strawman. If you're so ignorant about evolution after you claim to have read 'over 20,000' papers then it doesn't speak well of your comprehension skills, but quite honestly that doesn't surprise me. You're so ill-educated on science matters that you have a habit of just making stuff up and then trying to bluff your way, sad!
KrokrX 1 year ago
@KrokrX If mud skippers evolved into mud skippers 400 fantasy million years ago, why are they still mud skippers? HMM? How long does it take for this magical process to take place? You do know that there is no way for any of this to be verified, yet you fall for this shit, as if it was real. You don't have the ability to see anything at all. You are blind and ignorant.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - your ignorance of the theory of evolution is breathtaking for someone who claims to have read so many papers on it. That's the problem when you consider your years of studying yoga more relevant than the years of scientific research by real scientists. Enough trying to change the subject, how about the evidence for your 'boundaries' or chimp nonsense which you claimed was so 'obvious'?
KrokrX 1 year ago
GSFY - and while you're at it, perhaps you'll also tell us how long it took for the Neanderthals, which you claim were the result of mating between humans and chimps, to form a sustainable population that could journey out of Africa to populate the middle-east and Europe? As this all happened, according to you, at least 500 years after the building of the pyramids why did no-one notice, and how do you explain their remains being found in much lower layers than human ones?
KrokrX 1 year ago
@KrokrX How do you explain the fact that recent DNA evidence shows interbreeding with human? You can't. The problem is the radiometric dating of petrified fossils does not work.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - how does that have anything to do with the earlier comments? I've got to give it to you, you may be the craziest whackjob here on YT, and that's no small achievement with the likes of your 'nice man' Nephi to contend with, but you are pure entertainment gold! I can only apologise for not being sufficiently aware of your credentials when I voted for another candidate in the last Golden Crocoduck awards. Please make some more videos so you can be properly recognised this year.
KrokrX 1 year ago
GSFY - you've also claimed on multiple occasions that we shouldn't talk about creationism vs evolution and yet you've recently posted 4 creationist videos on your channel! Or perhaps you didn't realise that the 'scientists' they featured were well known religiously motivated creationists, and Wells is even a Moonie! Thought you said you wanted religion out of science?
KrokrX 1 year ago
GSFY - I also noticed that you say on the creationist videos you uploaded that you will only accept comments from 'friends', and you've already disabled ratings and deleted comments you didn't like. Considering the comments you leave on other people's videos that makes you a first class hypocrite - what are you scared of?
KrokrX 1 year ago
watch?v=8s2U7EsJ1QQ
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - seen it, and just like all your old videos it's plain nonsense, which is why you disabled ratings. The comments from other posters that you left up make that point quite well. You have an outstanding inability to make a coherent argument and this video is no exception. Please make some more videos so you can be properly recognised in this year's Golden Crocoduck award, pretty please!!
KrokrX 1 year ago
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@KrokrX You are a coward. You never answer any of my questions, because you can't. You are too stupid to understand the questions, much less have a clue what the answers are. Here's one again. How do you explain the fact that recent DNA evidence shows Neanderthals interbreeding with humans? You can't. The problem is the radiometric dating of petrified fossils does not work.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou
DNA evidence does not show interbreeding of gorillas and humans. But, as I've said before, have sex with a gorilla and, if you produce a chimp, I'll send your widow 1/2 of the proceeds from the sale of the video.
Are you going to send some more voodoo karma my way?
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou
"How do you explain the fact that recent DNA evidence shows interbreeding with human? "
There is no such evidence. You're daydreaming.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer Try doing research on this. It was published in a very recent scientific journal. google it. Stop being a pawn of this delusion.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - but what has this to do with your claim that humans mated with gorillas to produce chimps,and that humans then mated with chimps to produce Neanderthals, and all less than 4k years ago - over 500yrs after the building of the pyramids!? You still haven't told us the specific DNA sequences or ERV patterns that you claim make this 'obvious', which suggest that rather than you being the "teacher's teacher" you claim, that you're simply a creationist clown!
KrokrX 1 year ago
GSFY - don't forget, we're still waiting for your definition of your 'boundaries of their foundational genetics'; we're still waiting to hear how you can determine such a boundary for any living creature or any evidence for any kind of limiting mechanism.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou
And humans had tails before they evolved, er,... adapted. Of course, we wouldn't call them humans except for those humans today born with tails. Oh, and some of those tails are not just nonfunctional tumor-like structures, some have bones and muscle and blood supply. Explain that, Jimbo!
AlanCFA 1 year ago
GSFY - I've seen the video but it doesn't address the questions I posed. You claim everything is so 'obvious' and yet you continually fail to explain the details despite claiming to be the 'teachers teacher'. How do we determine your claimed 'boundary' for any particular organism? What mechanism exists to stop an organism that is at your 'boundary' from mutating beyond it? Are you afraid of showing your scienitific illiteracy, it hasn't stopped you before.
KrokrX 1 year ago
GSFY - you keep on using this 'boundaries of their genetic limitations' or 'foundational genetics' argument but when asked how we can determine such boundaries for any species you duck the question. You also duck the question of what mechanism stops a further mutation when a creature is at one of your supposed boundaries. If you cannot determine such a boundary or identify any mechanism then your argument is as worthless as all the others you make.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@KrokrX The question has obvious answers for those who look at the evidence, and not project what they think they see as you do. No creature has ever changed into an entirely new genus. All creatures have a genealogy from a parent group with nothing prior to that parent group.
No bacteria has ever evolved. Horses have never evolved. No cow has become a whale. There is no evidence of any creature that has ever broken the boundaries of its foundational genetics. It is clear as can be.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - if 'the question has obvious answers' you should be able to give them then. How do we determine your 'boundaries' for any specific organism, and what mechanism exists to stop a creature at such a 'boundary' from mutating beyond it? How do you define your 'boundaries' that you seem to group all bacteria together and yet recognise the relatively smaller genomic differences between a horse and cow?
KrokrX 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou ...and you failed miserably at it for all of 42 years.
jackdeath 1 year ago
@jackdeath Anyone who believes in fairy tales, its OK, as long as you realize it is a fairy tale. At some point you have to grow up.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou When have you grown up and abandon your fairy tales? With all you Human Emotional Mental Garbage and Sideways Logic, you couldn't find a premise with all your hidden Icons getting in the way.
Honestly, do you really believe in any of that crap you spew? It makes for good comedy, but it shows you’re in dire need of a mental health professional; provided, of course, if you want to get better and join the human race. Otherwise, a long walk off a short pier might be in order.
jackdeath 1 year ago
@jackdeath I stongly suggest that you get your education by actual study of the evidence, instead of being brainwashed. Typically humans are wrong on most things they believe in. This has been historically proven always and has never changed.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou I suggested a metal health professional for good reason. You are suffering from an oblivious break with reality, type 3 paranoid personality disorder with possible schizophrenic megalomania. You cannot replace the facts with your own fantasies and expect people to take you seriously. You may have a god complex and really believe the nonsense you’re spewing, but that is all the more reason to seek professional help. Good luck with that....
jackdeath 1 year ago
@jackdeath I don't believe anything. I go with the evidence. I never project belief on the world.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - again you claim 'I don't believe anything', so why did you say, among many such quotes -
-We are honest Christians who believe in God and believe in what is taught.
-You need to find Lord God Jehovah!
-I know that God can do miracles
-Learn to be humble and pray to God every day
-Faith in God is the enemy of greed, lust, avarice, and power.
You're simply a dishonest delusional religious clown who likes to project. You should seek professional help and take the medications offered.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou Unfortunetly, you idea of evidence and belief are self-delusional, which has no basis in fact or reality. You don't accept any authority but your own and dismiss all other true authorities as 'Icons'. As a result, the methodology for your belief system is rooted in mental illness. You can’t be your own arbiter of the facts and call it evidence. The real world doesn’t work that way, no matter how much your may wish it, and people will call you out on it whenever you do.
jackdeath 1 year ago
@jackdeath Listen you fucking moron! I don't believe in anything that is not absolutely proven to me. If you go with the fucking brainwashing that is your fucking problem. Is that clear asshole? You are embedded in mythological beliefs. I have none, no religion, no beliefs. I find that putting shit in my brain that comes from mythology to be repulsive and people who's religion causes belief in shit like Evodelusionism are repulsive . Your crap that you disguise as science is disgusting.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - your foul-mouthed rants don't impress anyone, they simply confirm your mental illness and deeply delusional state. You lie so frequently you don't even seem to realise when you're doing it! You keep claiming to have no beliefs, yet you've made countless religious statements that you try to ignore when we point them out. Jimmy, get some professional help and take the medications offered.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou: "Listen you fucking moron! I don't believe in anything that is not absolutely proven to me". Really? You have written that you believe in God. So what was the evidence that was "absolutely proven" to you?
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou - p.s. IF it were true that you had NO beliefs, then you would NOT believe in God. That would make you an atheist, something you claim not to be. You are one huge contradiction. How long have you lived in your castle in the sky?
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@AlanCFA I know there is truth. My God is Truth. This is not a belief. I know there is truth. If you don't know this, then you are fucked in the head.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou Classic example! Classic example of someone suffering from a god complex. You don't believe in god but you know there is truth, and that truth is god, and that god is you! Why. Because you know all the truth....
jackdeath 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou: "My God is Truth"
Bullshit. You wrote: "We are honest Christians who believe in God and believe in what is taught". You are a Christian, so don't give us this crap that your "God is truth".
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But if you have changed your beliefs since you wrote that you were a Christian, then fine - take this opportunity to reply to me and deny Christ.
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It's simple enough if your "God is Truth". But somehow, I think that you will avoid any such act.
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou I am sorry if I am causing you to experience any cognitive dissonance, but you need to break out of your childhood mold. All children begin life believing they know the answers to everything, but most grow out of that logical fallacy by the end of their teenage years. Somehow, you never did. After watching all of your video lectures on what you call science, I can clearly see that you base your beliefs on your own personally deluded mythology and not the scientific method.
jackdeath 1 year ago
@jackdeath I want you to demonstrate to me exactly how the scientific method is and has been used in this fucking religion of yours. And do you even know what the scientific method actually is? Fuck head!
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou Still suffering from cognitive dissonance, I see. Well...with that mental illness of yours, we should not blame you for that.
Oh, unfortunately, religions do not have a scientific methodology. They are all faith based, like your video lectures on what you call science. I doubt you are capable of understanding the truth until you have undergone psychotherapy. Until you receive help and are willing to rejoin the human race, there is not much more that anyone can do for you.
jackdeath 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou - when are you starting that musical tour of Europe? Your avant garde blend of a gerbil in a garbage disposal combined with lyrics that mirror your white board presentations will be unlike anything else the EU has ever experienced.
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@AlanCFA We are in Holland now, practicing for our venues. Thanks for your concern.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou
I didn't think that Holland had venues large enough to hold the standing-room-only crowds that you are sure to attract. Live and learn.
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@AlanCFA Holland is a beautiful place. The people are great. It has an extremely high percentage of satisfied and happy people. They are industrious and they enjoy time off from work. They know how to have fun. Waarom wil je de slaaf van andere onwetende mensen zijn?
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou: I've heard that Holland is beautiful. Enjoy yourself.
p.s.
U bent de persoon die een slaaf aan uw godsdienstige meningen is.
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou
We expect to see videos of you musical tour - you know, physical, irrefutable proof with no other plausibilities of Havenhead taking Europe by storm.
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@jackdeath OK. MORON! Where is your absolute evidence for creatures breaking the laws of genetics and transforming from one celled to humans? Where is this evidence, dumb ass? It must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausible answer and NO dumb ass opinions from delusional believers who are brainwashed like you. If you had this evidence there would be no argument, DUMB ASS!
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
GSFY - what is your 'absolute evidence' for your 'boundaries of their foundational genetics', or your daft gorillas mating within humans to produce chimps notion, or your 'Lord God Jehovah' - without it, according to you, you're the 'DUMB ASS!', but we already know that! You're not only probably the dumbest creationist here on YT, but quite possibly the most dishonest, and clearly suffering from inherited mental disability. Get some professional help and take the medications offered.
KrokrX 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou There are an abundance of book written for children answering the age old question of where babies come from. In it you will find the story of two cells with different DNA (from each parent) combining to form a new cell with its own unique DNA, which will in 9 months will grow into a human baby. I would encourage you to rush out and find one of these books, but, alas, biologists who subscribe to the same ‘Icons’ you so decry wrote it.
jackdeath 1 year ago
@GSFY "It must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausible answer...". Bullshit - Theories are made of facts, but the theories almost always have other plausible answers, it is simply that the theories that are most widely accepted represent the best explanation, not the only one.
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Your challenge to me to grab contacts on an electrical panel shows your ignorance. It's a fact that electricity flows from a positive to a ground, but the theory as to WHY that happens is malleable.
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou - you still fail to answer KrokrX's challenge: "what is your 'absolute evidence' for your 'boundaries of their foundational genetics', or your daft gorillas mating within humans to produce chimps..."
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What's the matter - don't you have an answer, Mr. 180 IQ?
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou "If you had this evidence there would be no argument, DUMB ASS!" Quite. And there is no argument about the Theory of Evolution, only amongst lay members of the public with no understanding of the science, or who have been told that the Bible is a literal account of how our world came into existence.
Misterb0z 1 year ago
@Misterb0z What fucking planet are you from?
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou I'm from planet Reality. Why not come and join us some time?
Misterb0z 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou
He's from a planet where scientists understand the theory of evolution and ignorant fools with white boards and low IQs do not.
AlanCFA 1 year ago
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@GoodScienceForYou: "Anyone who believes in fairy tales, its OK, as long as you realize it is a fairy tale". You're describing the Bible, not the theory of evolution.
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GSFY: "we are honest Christians who believe in God and believe in what is taught".
AlanCFA 1 year ago
@grendelee Adaptation is only for a creature to survive as THE SAME CREATURE. Show me one creature that has irrefutable evidence that it evolved?
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou The horse, the sabretooth tiger, the elephant....blah blah blah, read a book
Wait a minute.....are you one of those kooks that think that evolution means an elephant turns into a bee, or an alligator turns into a penguin?
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee I know all of your religious beliefs, since 1962. I know all the ridiculous claims of the religious nut jobs in Evodelusionism. I have no religion.
The horse has never violated its foundational genetics. Adaptation is not evolution. There is no evidence in DNA that any form of adaptation results in evolution into a new creature. I suggest that you study this far from the delusional assholes who own your mind.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@GoodScienceForYou Problem?
grendelee 1 year ago
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This moron Potsmoker54 neglects to tell you what nylon is made from. Because he doesn't want to inform you that nylon is mostly carbon. Bacteria only digests organic carbon and synthesizes carbon dioxide. There is no such thing as synthetic carbon. Go learn about chemistry first then listen to this shit. I did. Bacteria adapts, it does not evolve. If it remains as bacteria then NO evolution took place.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
Goto goodscienceforyou and look up "The Theory of Evolution, made easy."
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
I put up some clear information that spells out this guys brainwashing techniques.
He simply uses the same methods of brainwashing that was used on him.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
If one deny evolution theory because it's just a 'theory'. Then one must also deny pythagoras' therom, for it is also just a theory.
So next time, anti-evolutionist. If you're solving triangle problems. Don't use pythagoras' therom. Because it's just a theory. It might be wrong!!!!
itskelvinkkc 2 years ago
GoodScienceForYou. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
egeswender 2 years ago
GoodScienceForYou, you need to watch the made easy series. Just FYI, potholer54debunks channel has made a fool of you several times. So you should be ashamed of yourself.
Gilmourist 2 years ago
let's forget all this name-calling & personal opinions; would you evolutionists pls. cite, if any (you shouldn't have trouble quoting many) actual current scientific? projects, doctors/scientists, journals/papers (Nature magz, Scientific American, etc.) , published works, etc (cosmologists, molecular biologists, palaeontologists, physicists, astronomers, bio-chemists, etc. that actually back each other up) to once-and-for-all silence the deafeaning flaws & weakness in evolutionary theory?!??!
m3p3p1t0 2 years ago
@m3p3p1t0: Spam much?
puncheex 1 year ago
/watch?v=RnW0De5Y5pI
Funny as hell!
GoodScienceForYou 2 years ago
. In order to find the truth, you stop believing in things that are lacking in absolute evidence that requires no interpretation. If you have to have some believer interpret the truth, then you are in real trouble, because belief is the problem. Believers have no credibility, because they live in fantasy of belief based on nothing but projection of belief all around them.
GoodScienceForYou 2 years ago
ooh!!, diagrams and an erudite british voice over. it really must be science.
ebsteinbarrexam 2 years ago
no just the fact that it uses empirical evidence
eronni 2 years ago
no just the fact it miss uses empirical evidence distorts the English language culminating into so much babel tripe trying to be pass of as science. Mr Potholer's evidence video points to Darwins short comings but instead of reevaluating the theory He take evidence that points in the opposite direction and hocs pocs evolution is still a theory. And thats the real magic of evolution one day it will evolve into the the totally inevitable fact of intellect design but long as society loves a lie
ecurveman 2 years ago
wait you wanna talk about evidence AND intelligent design? because those two do not go hand in hand. any evidence for design only prove that species were all affected by the same natural processes. every part that is claimed to have "Irreducible Complexity" has been shown how it could have evolved. even if evolution IS wrong, it still fits the evidence better than any other theory and is not contradicted by any so we are going to believe evolution until assholes like you pull some evidence out.
eronni 2 years ago
are you retarded?
wdgeo 2 years ago
and the fact that there is actual credible evidence behind it.
Reiem94 2 years ago
Yea! Cartoons are fraud on children. Animating creatures that never lived are often used to fill in the blanks where there is no evidence. Since there is no evidence for evolution, and these people like Potholer54 are delusional and so brainwashed that they have no ability to see the huge pile of logical fallacies they have been brainwashed with; you will never get them to give it up, just too darn brainwashed and so full of ego and pride to realize how stupid they are.
GoodScienceForYou 2 years ago
Let's see. I count about a dozen baseless assertions in your comment and a couple of insults. Seems you forgot to add a single argument. For shame.
bnightm 2 years ago
hypocrisy fail
THEL33THAXOR 2 years ago
@GoodScienceForYou
Scientific animations usually attempt to bring to life species that we have a plethora of information about, including an abundance of fossils that we can extrapolate to reliably infer what a creature may have looked like WHEN (not if) it lived.
What is delusional is the amount of rhetoric you managed to cram into two posts just now; raising contentions on a subject without demonstrating your understanding of the matter or explaining what your contentions actually are.
xxxrokkstarrxxx 2 years ago
So, you think it is OK to fool little children with fake cartoons? What is wrong with your mind. Are you so weak that you would allow this to yourself as well as others? How can you be that gullible?
GoodScienceForYou 2 years ago