@Hidframe As I've said before, some gays practice anal sex and some straight people do it too! If your issue is with anal sex, then this debate shouldn't be about homosexuality - but rather the "act"! As I've said before, attraction and sexuality is very complex! It involves chemistry, biology, environment and personal choices. People like you have a strong desire to over-simplify this and push your narrow minded view as THE definition for all and this is how and why ignorance prevails!
There are many other reasons besides the religions ones that indicate the fact that homosexuality is unnatural. If you simply look at the human body from a biological perspective you will realize that intercourse between a man and another man is unnatural. Not to mention all the anal ruptures, hemorrhoid infections and even anal cancers that occur due to these types of intercourse. The Bible told people for 2000 years that they shouldn't do that...They however need a disses to be convinced.
@Hidframe There are a lot of things we all do that would be considered unnatural or abusive and yes, we pay the consequences for them. There is no point in sighting out the so called 'wrongs' of one group when you are surely doing something yourself that will lead to sickness, disease and an untimely death. For instance, eating dead animals has proven to be linked to many cancers but you still eat and consume it, now don't you? Of course, I can go on and on but you should get my point.
@slimsxyblkwoman I understand your point perfectly. "eating dead animals has proven to be linked to many cancers" You're perfectly right about that. That's because humans are herbivores. We have a long digestive track and flat dental profiles, designed for grinding vegetables, unlike carnivorous that have pointy fangs and a short digestive track. So for humans to eat meat, it is indeed unnatural and unhealthy. It is why i chose to be a vegetarian.
@Hidframe Good that you are vegetarian but that's just one example of the things that we all do or done that is not natural or unhealthy... The list is too long to mention but my original point remains - somehow homosexuality has become the poster child for 'sin', 'immorality', 'evil', 'bad', etc., but yet, I witness everyday folks participating in and doing things that the Bible condemns or things that most or some would consider evil, bad or negative but these folks are rarely demonized - SAD!
@slimsxyblkwoman "somehow homosexuality has become the poster child for 'sin', 'immorality', 'evil', 'bad', etc.," Indeed that's true. The reason why this happened is because homosexual activists have been putting pressure on governments to legalize same sex marriage. In some cases this happened, and in states like Massachusetts for example, Catholic adoption centers were forced to close down because the law forced them to place children in homosexual families, (next comment)
@slimsxyblkwoman Churches had pressure on them to marry same sex couples, schools thought children homosexual "values" and denied parents the right to pull their children from the specific classes where this happened, and many more. People didn't have a problem with homosexuality until it started to be shoved down people's throats.
The main reason why homosexuality is the "Poster child" of sin, like you said, is because the people who support it are aggressive, deceitful and abusive.
@Hidframe said "Churches had pressure on them to marry same sex couples, schools thought children homosexual "values" and denied parents the right to pull their children from the specific classes where this happened, and many more. People didn't have a problem with homosexuality until it started to be shoved down people's throats."
@cmdrkoenig67 "Those are all untrue." "In a stunning turn of events, Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley and leaders of Catholic Charities of Boston announced yesterday that the agency will end its adoption work, deciding to abandon its founding mission, rather than comply with state law requiring that gays be allowed to adopt children." (boston.c o m/news
@cmdrkoenig67 "Those are all untrue." "New Vancouver School Policy: Parents Refused Right to Pull Kids from Pro-Homosexual Lessons" (.lifesitenews.c o m)
@slimsxyblkwoman "the things that we all do or done that is not natural or unhealthy". Personally i do my best to avoid all those things, mostly because i want what's best for me. Now let's look at this topic from another perspective. Judging by your user name i assume you're a woman. I don't know if you have children or not, however let's assume that you have a son. Naturally you would also want what's best for him.
Imagine now that he comes home one day and says he's gay.
@slimsxyblkwoman How would you react to that? Wouldn't you try to get him help? Wouldn't you do your best to help him become normal, like everyone else?
Imagine now that his school teaches him that homosexuality is normal, and also speaking out against is illegal. Would you feel comfortable with this scenario?
Many people don't....That's why Homosexuality the "poster child" of evil.
@Hidframe The public school system also teaches that eating animal flesh and bi-products is good for the body and intelligent, spiritual people know better than that but where's the protest against this? The teaching of gayness in the schools was birthed out of the relentless and brutal treatment of children who are perceived as gay. Gays commit suicide at an alarming rate due to the open intolerance in this country & the best way to lesson this is to educate ppl & lesson their fears around it.
@Hidframe Most people have no real concept or understanding of 'cause & affect'. Homosexuality seems to be exploding in America because we focus on it; while oppressing and fearing it - by universal law, this causes an expansion and imbalance! This is also a dual reality - there's an opposite to everything but when there's an imbalance, one dominates the other. Our intolerence, fear and ignorance is creating this reality & if we don't like the world we see, we must become the change we want.
@Hidframe Although you may not understand it - homosexuality has it's place and it's not always about sex either... If it weren't meant to be - nature would have eradicated it by now. Homosexuals tend to have a level of creativity, sensitivity and masculine and feminine principals that your average 'feared' comforming straight male or female cannot hold or possess. Homosexuality is also natures way of population control but of course, man has thrown this out of whack through fear & ignorance.
@slimsxyblkwoman "homosexuality has it's place....Homosexuals tend to have a level of creativity, sensitivity". Exactly what place do you believe they have? Do you really believe the world wouldn't be just as great if not better without fashion designers or hair stylists?
"If it weren't meant to be - nature would have eradicated it by now."...Nor was cancer and aids meant to be. Yet they are, and they're killing millions of people world wide. (continuing in comment 2)
@slimsxyblkwoman ...Nature is not selective, and it doesn't remove individuals that are not useful to it. It simply sustains every form of life that can feed on it.
Just like the examples i gave in the previous comment, homosexuality is also a disease. Even tho many people disagree with this and claim stupid stuff like its genetic, the fact is that many gay people turned straight, many straight people turned gay, and then of course there are also bisexuals out there. (continuing in comment 3)
@Hidframe If nature isn't selective, then where are the many creatures and species that once roamed this land but are now existinct? When something no longer serves a 'purpose' to feed or support nature - it will eventually wipe it out. As long as humans procreate, there will be a broad range within the human biology and genome. People don't just turn gay or straight! IF someone switched sides, it's because this was in them all along - c'mon, you can't be that nieve?
@slimsxyblkwoman "If nature isn't selective, then where are the many creatures and species that once roamed this land but are now existinct?"...Most species were extinct due to climate shifts, cataclysmic events like comets, volcanic eruptions and most of all human interference. Other cases when species disappear are when they deplete their food resources, and are isolated so they can't find others. Those are accidental occurrences, not nature's will to "wipe them out"
@Hidframe From your perspective, you see natural disasters that wiped out an entire species as a bi-products of an accident but I see it as apart of natural selection! It's ironic that you cling to a wrathful God who controls everything, when it works to your vantage but now, you wish to suggest that cataclisms that wiped out entire species were climate shifts? Last I checked, all of these things are connected to nature & a part of nature is wiped out because of nature - it's natural!
@slimsxyblkwoman "I see it as apart of natural selection! "....so you see a comet striking earth with the force of 200.000 nuclear bombs, lifting trillions of tons of dust and smoke in to the atmosphere, creating a blanket that the sun can't penetrate for hundreds of years...as being a part of nature's selection?
@Hidframe "so you see a comet striking earth with the force of 200.000 nuclear bombs, lifting trillions of tons of dust and smoke in to the atmosphere, creating a blanket that the sun can't penetrate for hundreds of years...as being a part of nature's selection?" From my perspective - YES! Because the omniverse is orderly & conscious! You believer in God & I think even you would agree but like all Christians, you like to bend or exempt a God governing things when it doesn't serve your argument!
@slimsxyblkwoman "From my perspective - YES! Because the omniverse is orderly & conscious!"...The universe is conscious? Are you serious?... " You believer in God & I think even you would agree".... If God created a cataclysmic event, then it's not a "Natural" phenomenon, nor is it nature's "consciousness" that intended the disappearance of something, it would be a divine interference.
@Hidframe "If God created a cataclysmic event, then it's not a "Natural" phenomenon, nor is it nature's "consciousness" that intended the disappearance of something, it would be a divine interference"
Are you suggesting that God isn't apart of nature and nature apart of God? Even if it were "divine interference" if God didn't approve of homosexuality - it would have been wiped out or existinct by now, be it naturally or divine interference! You only further validated my original point!
@slimsxyblkwoman "if God didn't approve of homosexuality - it would have been wiped out or existinct by now"....Nope, because God loves his creation. And as stated in the Bible, he wants each and every one of us to return to him. He also gave us free will, so the only reason Homosexuality still exists is because WE as humans allowed it.
Besides, there are countless other atrocities that God doesn't approve of, yet THEY also exist.
@slimsxyblkwoman "People don't just turn gay or straight! IF someone switched sides, it's because this was in them all along"...again, this is nothing more than your personal opinion unless you have some evidence to back it up.
@Hidframe Dude, use some common sense! Just about every person who mostly lived a straight life but turned gay have said that they have always had same-sex attractions but suppressed it, due to living in a climate full of intolerance, fear and ignorance! People are no longer living in the closet and hiding who they are because there's a better climate now for them to be OUT or embrace who they are, rather than live a lie for ignorant folks; this isn't just my opinion nor is it rocket science!
@Hidframe "be OUT or embrace who they are" /watch?v=Xrviw8nu7gQ&feature=mh_lolz&list=LLXrG-zqW_YpaJQQ1G0roiew -"
Thanks but not interested... I don't care to take in bias information! This is why I am debating you and others like you because you are fed one side and your egos are comfortable with this. However, the time has come to realize that when egos run things, we are ran straight in the ground and evolution does not nor cannot occur! I know real empowered gays & they're rarely heard!
@Hidframe By the way, just like you suggest that everything that I say is my opinion - the same can be applied to you! However, the difference is that I can look at both sides of an equasion and not hold onto biases to uphold my ego or religious beliefs. Religiously minded persons tend to be among the most illogical, irrational and borderline insane people on the globe and as I've said before, religion in many ways helped to destroy humanity, not build it up! Give me REAL spirituality anyday!
@slimsxyblkwoman "just like you suggest that everything that I say is my opinion - the same can be applied to you".... I posted my sources for almost every information i quoted. If you feel unconvinced about the legitimacy of my data, feel free to ask me for more specific links. (even though you will easily find them all if you Google them)
@slimsxyblkwoman ...So if there are bisexuals out there, who like having sex with both their own, and the opposite sex, that brings up the obvious question. Do they have the "gay gene" or not?. If they do, why do they also like the opposite sex? And if they don't, why are they attracted to their own sex?
All this can only lead to 2 possible answers.
1.Homosexuality is a mental disorder
2.Homosexuality is a perversion disguised as a gene
@Hidframe I see your first mistake is like many other ignorant people. You continue to associate gays, bi's and the likes with only sex. You do know that many of these people want an emotional bond with the object of their desires? You do know that they want to build a life with the person they love as well? Is your attraction to what you like only about the sex act? Get real! Sexuality and attraction is not black & white and the sooner you understand this, the more you 'may' free your mind.
@slimsxyblkwoman "I see your first mistake is like many other ignorant people. You continue to associate gays, bi's and the likes with only sex"...Their entire lifestyle is defined by their sexuality. So what should i associate them with?...Flying a kite?!
Regardless of what emotional bond they have, the fact of the matter is that their lifestyle is based on who they have sex with. Otherwise they would simply be called "room mates"
@slimsxyblkwoman "the sooner you understand this, the more you 'may' free your mind."......"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." (S.R. Shearer)
@slimsxyblkwoman "Homosexuality is also natures way of population control".If this population control was real there wouldn't be overpopulated countries like China and India.
"Homosexuality seems to be exploding in America because we focus on it".I must disagree with you there. It is because the US tolerates it and gives gay people media attention. In countries like mine (Romania) homosexuality has hardly been heard of until the past few years,and even today it is rare (Continuing in comment 5)
@Hidframe There r 2 levels of homosexuality in this country, there's the progressive side to which gays are gaining political and economic power and is therefore, taking control of how they are portrayed in the media. Then there's that backlash to this, which many see as a 'gay agenda'... This backlash, is adding to and fueling the already ignorant and homophobic climate that I had previous spoken of. So both sides are riding each other and fueling the expansion of gay pride, power & pressence.
@slimsxyblkwoman "So both sides are riding each other and fueling the expansion of gay pride, power & pressence.". Much like Nazism came to power. However just like every other political current, it will die out eventually.
@Hidframe "Much like Nazism came to power. However just like every other political current, it will die out eventually" Yeap, and we are seeing intolerance and your position dying out and the gay people are gaining power, respect and influence... This is why you and so many with your mindset are upset, angry and bothered by it... The ego is one hell of a demon - don't you think? lol
@slimsxyblkwoman So far in my country there have been only 3 gay parades that i know of. One ended in blood, the other ones were so tightly guarded by police forces that people from outside the parade could hardly see past the wall of law enforcements.
"oppressing and fearing it - by universal law, this causes an expansion " From your theory,countries like Uganda, that have a death penalty for homosexuals, should be teaming with them. However they have the lowest number of homosexuals in Africa
@slimsxyblkwoman (also adding to my previous comment) Uganda also has the lowest record of aids in all of Africa. Probably a coincidence of the fact that they have the lowest number of homosexuals...probably not...you decide.
@Hidframe That's the most ignorant comment that you've posted because you are associating homosexuality with AIDS. Are you implying that other parts of Africa has rampant AIDS because there's rampant homosexuality? There's homosexuality in every facet of society, even Uganda! These people may have super immune systems like many scientists are finding that certain Africans have but to say their low-AIDS rate is tied to little or no homosexuality is again, ridiculous and stereotypical!
@slimsxyblkwoman "you are associating homosexuality with AIDS" .... "The high concentration of white blood cells around the rectum, together with the risk of cuts to the rectum and that one of the functions of the rectum is to absorb fluid, increases the risk of HIV transmission because the HIV retrovirus reproduces within the immune system's T-cells/CD4 cells." (Wikipedia)
@Hidframe Again, you keep linking gays with anal sex (your mind is so warped). There are gays who don't practice anal sex! Some are celibate! There are straight people that do participate in anal sex! In fact, it's widely known that straights (particularly Latins) practice anal sex as a form of birth control or to retain vaginal virginity! We won't talk about the porn industry that mostly driven by straight men! Straight men masturbate and enjoy anal sex more than most will admit!
@slimsxyblkwoman "These people may have super immune systems"...So you're saying that only Ugandans have this immune system? Normally people develop stronger immune systems when they live in worse parts of the world, not the better ones. Uganda is know as "The pearl of Africa", so if someone is going to develop an immunity to aids, it should be far less likely to develop it there.
@Hidframe Uganda is knowns as the pearl of Africa? Are you serious??? That country recently experienced genocide where countless men, women and children were slaughtered! They've dealt with extreme poverty, rampant rapes of women (even some men/boys) and their infrastructure isn't the best in Africa at all! These people are not the best symbol of African moral authority - not even close! Sorry but only an ill-informed, hetero-insecure, non-black would say such idiotic things!
@slimsxyblkwoman "Uganda is knowns as the pearl of Africa? Are you serious???"...Absolutely. Do a Google search for Uganda and you will see.
"That country recently experienced genocide where countless men, women and children were slaughtered! "...I seriously have no idea where you get your info from. Uganda is one of the safest countries in Africa. It is why many people flock to Uganda from all over Africa. However let's not forget that it IS a third world country though.
@Hidframe If you didn't know that Uganda had one of the worst genocides in the history of that country, it's pretty evident as to why you posted that ignorant comment! I have not forgotten it's a third world country either but it's pretty apparent that your original comment - you forgot by stating that it's the pearl of Africa??? I bet you didn't know that great parts of Africa is just as developed as any state in America! You need to stop trusting what you see & read in the mass media!
@slimsxyblkwoman "you forgot by stating that it's the pearl of Africa??? ".... Simply Google the worlds "Perl of Africa" and you will notice that the first 20 - 30 pages of results are titled Uganda, or are referred to Uganda. I didn't state anything, I'm just quoting what other thousands of people said.
@Hidframe "you forgot by stating that it's the pearl of Africa??? ".... Simply Google the worlds "Perl of Africa" and you will notice that the first 20 - 30 pages of results are titled Uganda, or are referred to Uganda. I didn't state anything, I'm just quoting what other thousands of people said." THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM, EVERYTHING YOU POST HERE IS BASED OF OFF VIEWS THAT YOU CAN'T PROVE OR VALIDATE. DO YOU KNOW ANY UGANDANS, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN THERE? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO AFRICA? LIKELY NOT!
@slimsxyblkwoman "THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM, EVERYTHING YOU POST HERE IS BASED OF OFF VIEWS THAT YOU CAN'T PROVE OR VALIDATE"... A few thousand people who share the same view isn't sufficient validation?
@Hidframe Those same thousands of people were educated, brainwashed and conditioned by the same system and rulers that you were taught by! I am sure that the majority of those who have a herd or mainstream mentality are damn near incapable of thinking for themselves! You and people like you depend on a majority point of view because you see this as proof that you are right but the truth is, the majority are zombies/robots and slaves but sadly most of them don't even know it!
@slimsxyblkwoman "Those same thousands of people were educated, brainwashed and conditioned by the same system and rulers that you were taught by!"....so were you. Otherwise you wouldn't know how to read this comment. What amuses me about people like you is that you take the fruits of this "Infestation" for granted, yet you criticize it at the same time.
@slimsxyblkwoman "You and people like you depend on a majority point of view because you see this as proof that you are right but the truth is, the majority are zombies/robots and slaves"... Nope, i simply use my brain instead of blindly rejecting everything that comes from a majority.
@Hidframe We won't even get into the fact that AIDS was created in a lab by some evil white men, as a bio weapon to wipe out certain 'undesirables' of society! So your attempt to associate this disease with some inherent homosexual behavior is weak because the very premise as to how and why AIDS ahs and is ravashing gays, blacks and Latinos is not based in nature! It's based in evil men, trying to play God!
@slimsxyblkwoman "how and why AIDS ahs and is ravashing gays, blacks and Latinos is not based in nature! It's based in evil men, trying to play God!" .Official studies show that aids originated in Africa somewhere and it was transmitted from animals to humans. Despite of this i also believe it was created in a lab. however aids is well known to spread faster in the homosexual community, rather than the heterosexual one. (i mentioned why in the previous comment)
@Hidframe AIDs is most prevalent in the heterosexual community and the gay community infection rate has declined in comparison. We all know that it started in the gay community in America and the native African community in the black community. Both were used as unknowing and unwilling vectors to harvest the virus! I remember when homophobes were saying it's a wrath on homos but today, we see that on a global scale, heteros women are the most infected! Saying that its a gay disease is ignorance!
@Hidframe You can't say that Uganda has a low percentage of homosexuality! I am sure that given the hostile environment towards it - those who do it are doing it secretly but I garantee you that there's a cause and affect occuring as we speak! The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent but watch what happens in the next 10 years (if humanity is still here).
@slimsxyblkwoman "You can't say that Uganda has a low percentage of homosexuality! I am sure that given the hostile environment towards it - those who do it are doing it secretly "... Unless you come with some evidence to back that up, its nothing more than your personal opinion. Statistically Uganda has the lowest number of homosexuals in Africa.
@slimsxyblkwoman "The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent "...Sorry that's not true. Uganda's hate towards homosexuality started around the year 1880, when homosexual king Mwanga ascended to the throne. He created laws that required all the men of his kingdom to submit to his sexual desires if requested. This is why Uganda today is so harsh in its legislation when it comes to homosexuality.
@Hidframe You are mixing apples and oranges! Doesn't matter how long the country held certain beliefs about homosexuality! What I am saying is that the gays and lesbians in that country are starting to stand and fight for their right to OPENLY love and live like any other person! This stance, is bringing all of these deeply held fears, bias, hate to the surface and is ultimately creating an epic 'cause & affect' that I had previously mentioned. You can't hate, oppress & deny without consequences
@slimsxyblkwoman "You are mixing apples and oranges! Doesn't matter how long the country held certain beliefs about homosexuality!"... You said "The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent but watch what happens in the next 10 years (if humanity is still here)."...I'm not mixing anything. I just proved your wrong.
@Hidframe "You are mixing apples and oranges! Doesn't matter how long the country held certain beliefs about homosexuality!"... You said "The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent but watch what happens in the next 10 years (if humanity is still here)."...I'm not mixing anything. I just proved your wrong." What proof? All you've done is cite your beliefs, opinions and data from sources that are of the same mindset as yours!
@slimsxyblkwoman "What proof? All you've done is cite your beliefs, opinions and data from sources that are of the same mindset as yours!"...Most of my data comes from Wikipedia and it is approved by historians.
Again, you claimed Uganda's hate for homosexuals is recent. I gave you proof that it's not recent, and that Ugandans have been dead set against homosexuality since 1880.
@slimsxyblkwoman "You can't hate, oppress & deny without consequences" They don't hate, oppress or deny anything. They simply don't want to have anything to do with homosexuality in their country. It is their belief that homosexuality is immoral and dangerous to their society. So all they are doing is saying "Be straight, or go somewhere else!"
@Hidframe "You can't hate, oppress & deny without consequences" They don't hate, oppress or deny anything. They simply don't want to have anything to do with homosexuality in their country. It is their belief that homosexuality is immoral and dangerous to their society. So all they are doing is saying "Be straight, or go somewhere else!" Yeap, beating up, murdering and passing laws to justify jailing and murdering consenting adults isn't hatred, oppression and denial of one's free will! SAD!
@slimsxyblkwoman "Yeap, beating up, murdering and passing laws to justify jailing and murdering consenting adults isn't hatred, oppression and denial of one's free will"... They are not scouting the world looking for homosexuals to beat up, jail or murder. They simply don't want to have them in their country. Votes have been held for those legislation's, therefore it's what people want. So the real denial of "one's free will" would be if these legislation's DIDN'T pass.
@Hidframe It doesn't matter if these people scout out homosexuals to abuse or deny at all, the point is that any group that Unganda is citing a minority group and using the fear, ignorance and religion to 'oppress'... You continue to support discrimination and oppression as long as you don't fall into that class and this is why you will have your own form of inequality because you are ok with it being done to another. Votes once supported the continuation of slavery - so what does that prove?
@Hidframe Ugandans are not the most civil or good example of a sane or civil society. Again, millions of Ugandans were slaughtered by their own people! When this was happening, no one took the streets, joined in arms or anything like we've seen with them when it comes to homosexulaity. Just goes to show that their priority is way out of sync, just like many other blacks all around the world and this is one of the reason why we still hurt and struggle terribly!We need 2 get out of ppl's love-life
@slimsxyblkwoman "There is no point in sighting out the so called 'wrongs' of one group" I must disagree with you there. Normally when something is hazardous to our health and even life threatening, it is a moral obligation to make others aware of it.
"yes, we pay the consequences for them" Indeed. However people should know the consequences first.
There is a reason why there are giant warnings on cigarette packs informing people of the dangers of smoking.
@Hidframe There is nothing unnatural about homosexuality...It's just unnatural for you. More than 1,000 animal species (besides human beings) have been documented as engaging in homosexual activities and some among those animal species even form life-long same-sex relationships (such as swans, American Bison, penguins, dolphins, antelope, etc...).
@cmdrkoenig67 "More than 1,000 animal species have been documented as engaging in homosexual activities". If this is true, it only proves that homosexuality is a mental disorder. Sexual desire is designed for only one purpose, and that's reproduction. When a certain number of individuals from a species are unable to reproduce because they are not attracted by the opposite sex, it means that its a disorder. If you had enough of these individuals in a species, it would be extinct.
@cmdrkoenig67 Besides, a desire to engage in activity that can lead to physical injury, illness or death can't possibly be called anything else other than a mental disorder (if its natural), Or a perversity (if its unnatural)
@cmdrkoenig67 "Sex between a man and a woman can result in injury, illness and death too." If we're talking about anal sex, yes. In the case of vaginal sex, this is fairly unlikely to happen. Mainly because a woman's vagina was designed FOR intercourse, since it IS a sex organ, unlike an anus that is designed to eliminate fecal matter and is used inappropriately for sex.
@Hidframe Vaginal sex between a man and woman can't result in injury? Are you serious? Are you telling me that there aren't people who have died from syphillis, AIDs and other forms of cancer from vaginal intercourse? There's gonoreah clamedia, which leads to all forms of injury. I am so done debating this matter because you are obsessed with sex, when human attraction is far more complex than this. Homosexuality has always been and will always be! Trying to stop it is a waste of time & energy.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Vaginal sex between a man and woman can't result in injury?" I didn't say that, i said it is far less likely to happen, comparing to anal sex, since the vagina is designed for intercourse (being a sex organ) wile the anus is designed to eliminate fecal matter, and is inappropriately used for sex.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Are you telling me that there aren't people who have died from syphillis, AIDs and other forms of cancer from vaginal intercourse?" Syphilis and Aids are STD's, and result from having intercourse with more than one partner. I was not debating the spread of STD's thew anal or vaginal sex, i was pointing out the diseases that result from physical damage to the anus, resulting from intercourse.
@Hidframe Even if you were pointing out the physical damage through the 'act' of vaginal and penial intercourse - you are still in error! Women do receive tearing and microscopic tears in our vaginia and it can be painful to us as well. Men, can get microscopic tears on the sensitive parts of the head of their penis from friction, especially when their is little to no lubricant. It is those microscopic tears that allows viral infections to get inside of our body!
@slimsxyblkwoman "you are still in error! Women do receive tearing and microscopic tears in our vaginia and it can be painful to us as well"....Go to a hospital and talk to a proctologist. Ask him how many cases he gets every week, of men and women with severe anal ruptures, intense anal bleeding, hemorrhoid infections and many more problems, all resulting from anal intercourse.
Then go to a gynecologist and ask him how many women he gets with similar vaginal issues every week.
@Hidframe No, you are in propaganda! I know people who work in the medical field and what's NOT being reported in MOST of those statistics is that those who have severe issues with their anus are men and women, who are prostitutes and/or into sticking large objects in there (weird fetishes).. So in truth, these are examples of extreme abuse of the anus, not anal sex itself! Anything that's abused, will eventually show it and this is something that everyone does to some degree or another!
@slimsxyblkwoman "those who have severe issues with their anus are men and women, who are prostitutes"....are you serious? I personally know people who ended up with cancers from complications that appeared due to hemorrhoids. Even without ever having any anal intercourse, from something as common as a constipation, they ended up with severe anal ruptures.
@slimsxyblkwoman "those microscopic tears that allows viral infections to get inside of our body! "....You're aether not getting my point, or you're avoiding it.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Homosexuality has always been and will always be! Trying to stop it is a waste of time & energy." In my country it has been viewed as it truly is. A mental illness, and it has been treated as such, with successful results over the years. Today's media brings tons of lies and manipulations to my country, and stops the people who need help, from seeking it. I find this to be insane, and i will invest as much time and energy as i can to fight this.
@Hidframe The truth of the matter is that there's not one single homosexual who hasn't heard that it's wrong or immoral but they continue to do them. Since this is a free will planet, it's not our place to infringe upon the choices and will of consenting adults. Pushing our moral code or belief on others is humanities greatest problem. Too many ppl want to push our version of morality on another person but we don't like it being done to us because we think our moral code is right for everyone.
@slimsxyblkwoman "there's not one single homosexual who hasn't heard that it's wrong or immoral but they continue to do them."...Many homosexuals stopped practicing homosexuality because of their religious belief. If you check out my playlists on my channel you will find a collection of ex-gay testimonies that i found just by randomly surfing on Youtube in one afternoon.
@Hidframe Yes, there are some people who said that they were no longer homosexual but was it really because they changed or just suppressed it? There are just as many men who said that they only suppressed their desires to be accepted by their church, family and friends. Some do it out of 'fear' of going to some hell. Some of these people may have never really been gay to begin with but to assume that everyone whose gay 'changes' or 'can change' under the same conditions is ridiculous.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Yes, there are some people who said that they were no longer homosexual but was it really because they changed or just suppressed it?" Most of these people now have normal lives, kids, and families.
"There are just as many men who said that they only suppressed their desires to be accepted by their church, family and friends. " In that case they simply didn't seek treatment, or didn't find the proper one.
(You can bandage a wound, or act like you don't have one)
@Hidframe You will say anything to try to justify your limited, black-&-white, belief system and way of thinking! I don't care how much 'treatment' anyone receives, you cannot change people orientation! You cannot force people to 'naturally' be attracted to something they are not, while simultaneously making them NOT attracted to something that they are! To believe this is only fooling yourselves and perpetuating more lies and an imbalance.
@slimsxyblkwoman "not our place to infringe upon the choices and will of consenting adults"...In this case why are there laws against prostitution, marketing and consumption of hard or even light drugs, incest marriage, and in some countries even against smoking?
We all agree that activities like smoking should be illegal because they are unhealthy, yet we promote and support a self destructing unhealthy and dangerous lifestyle that is caused by a treatable mental condition?
@Hidframe Laws are written by other fallible men and an overwhelming majority of these men break the very laws that they pass or write, you know it and I know it! It still boils down to imperfect men, trying to dictate or control other men/women. So what if all the things you've listed is against the law but does this stop prostitution, smoking and the selling and consumption of hard drugs? People will always do things that may or may not be healthy for them but it's still their right to do so.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Laws are written by other fallible men and an overwhelming majority of these men break the very laws that they pass or write, you know it and I know it"...I sincerely don't care if they break them or not. Tho some laws are passed only to suite some people's economic interests indeed, others however, are guidelines that ensure a civilized community for all of us. In a Religion-less world, these laws are all that keep society from breaking down, and turning in to a free for all.
@Hidframe "In a Religion-less world, these laws are all that keep society from breaking down, and turning in to a free for all" - No, you have the illusion of a civil society and ironically, religion has played a BIG role in the madness that we see in our world. Religion is a relatively new concept within the human diaspora! Before religion, we were spiritual Beings! There was no disrespect of one another, animals nor the earth because we were ONE with it-religion DESTROYED this connection!
@slimsxyblkwoman "Before religion, we were spiritual Beings! There was no disrespect of one another, animals nor the earth because we were ONE " "Religion is a relatively new concept within the human diaspora".... The earliest evidence for prehistoric religion in India date back to the late Neolithic in the early Harappan period (5500–2600 BCE)." (Wikipedia)
@slimsxyblkwoman "Before religion, we were spiritual Beings!"...So before 5500BC (Prehistoric times) you're saying humans were spiritual beings? Are you seriously saying that cave men that smack each other over the head with clubs, hunting animals with rocks, are spiritual beings? Honestly, based on this statement i am seriously starting to question your mental state.
@Hidframe When I say 'we' where spiritual Beings before religions, I am talking about the natives of earth! The organic ancients, the indeginous people, NOT the neanderthal and that's going into an entirely story! An outer-infestation came into the earth realm and literally turned it upside down! The movie Avatar was a very telling example of this! My mental state is just fine but yours is off because you've bought into the propaganda & lies that the "infestation" feeds you!
@slimsxyblkwoman "When I say 'we' where spiritual Beings before religions, I am talking about the natives of earth! The organic ancients, the indeginous people".... Now I am seriously questioning your mental state... If you're referring to the native Americans by "Natives", I'd like to inform you that they also had religions. They were polytheists and believed in spirits of bears, wolves and other animals (and ironically hunted them at the same time)
@slimsxyblkwoman In the same period also lived civilizations in South America. The Inkan empire for example is also pre-Columbian, and they were also polytheists. "Inca leadership encouraged the worship of Inti—the sun god—and imposed its sovereignty above other cults..." (Wikipedia). They were also well known for having human sacrifices. Very "Spiritual" indeed...
@Hidframe Again, you cling to and reference history that Westerners have measured and if you are relying on Western science and religion to give you the information that I am speaking of - you really are a lost cause. Speaking of 'sun Gods' do you realize that you are worshipping in a 'sun god' when you celebrate the westerners version of Jesus.. The "SUN" of God - not the "SON" of God... It's all a play on words, they have so many sheeple fooled, lol.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Again, you cling to and reference history that Westerners have measured"...No i am clinging on to internationally recognized history, not the teachings of some senile tribesman.
@Hidframe "No i am clinging on to internationally recognized history, not the teachings of some senile tribesman" Those "senile tribe men" are highly respected and greatly feared, which is why many of these gatekeepers were slaughtered and murdered all throughout history by Europeans and those of their elk! They wanted to destroy any and all traces of the true history of the land and well as spirituality, so that they could introduce religion! However, we are reverting back to spirituality!
@slimsxyblkwoman "you are worshipping in a 'sun god' when you celebrate the westerners version of Jesus.. The "SUN" of God - not the "SON" of God."....The bible clearly condemns the worship of all idols, including the sun. There are even passages in the Bible that speak of followers of the early Christianity that have been brutally tortured and killed by Greek or Roman people for NOT worshiping false entities like sun gods.
@slimsxyblkwoman "spiritual Beings before religions".... It is a historically documented fact that the oldest religion is Hinduism, dating all the way back to 5500bc. Can you please name ANY documented civilization before that time, that you consider as being composed of "Spiritual beings" ?
@Hidframe "Can you please name ANY documented civilization before that time, that you consider as being composed of "Spiritual beings" ? That's the point, we didn't have a name nor was a name required because we simply were! There was no language barrier or name because there was a time when we were androgynous & communicated telepathically. This is apart of history that only African/Indian shamans & elders still speak of. Look up the wisdom of Credo Mutwa, the oldest living African shaman.
@slimsxyblkwoman "That's the point, we didn't have a name nor was a name required because we simply were!"... So if there is no documented or written proof of these civilizations what on earth makes you believe they existed?
"communicated telepathically."...I seriously don't mean to offend you in any way, but I'm stunned to see that you don't realize how ridiculous that sounds.
@Hidframe The documentation of these things is within the spirit/soul of every single man and woman but of course, if you are focused on an external God and not connected to your inner-God, you won't have any comprehension of anything that I speak in this regard. This is what being 'conscious' is truly about! When you connect with your inner-God-self, you don't need to rely on the words and documentation of other fallible men "out there" because you rely on the 'book of life' stored within!
@Hidframe "An outer-infestation came into the earth realm and literally turned it upside down!".... Do you play Starcraft or something?" Once again, you show ignorance and bias with this statement. Aren't you a believer in Christianity, which teaches that fallen angels came into the earth realm and ultimately infested it with 'ungoldly' sins? Oh, I get it - I have to use your buzz words for you to comprehend -- thanks but no thanks! Religion is an enemy in my eyes!
@slimsxyblkwoman "Religion is an enemy in my eyes"... Yet if it didn't exist you wouldn't know how to read this comment, nor would there be any machine to read it on. The entire world culture and development was founded by religion. Yet you believe its "an enemy" and YOU know better when you follow the belief of some African shaman that speaks of "organic" civilizations that nobody heard about.
@Hidframe Have you ever heard of anicent Altantis or Lumeria? This was a time before time and these civilizations were waaay more advanced in technology and spirituality than we are today! They had computers then and telepathic powers and many abilities that would seem supernatural by our primitive perception. They didn't rely on religion! Religions are a relatively new concept, as stated before! Religion indirectly helped mankind to fall from our once advance balanced state 2 what we see today.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Have you ever heard of anicent Altantis or Lumeria? " Absolutley.
Altantis - The legend of a Greek city that nobody ever found.
Lumeria - mythological legend of a lost civilization dating back to over 25,000 B.C, that was never documented.
"these civilizations were waaay more advanced in technology and spirituality than we are today!". Yet not a single scrap of their culture or technology was ever found...
@Hidframe Lol, again, you demonstrate your pathetic nature to pick and choose what you want to accept as truth when it serves pr don't serve your interests. The same thing that you've said about Atlantis and Lumera can DEFINITELY be said about Christianity, Jesus and all of the allegories that go along with it but in your mind, all of these things really happened and are true, although there's absolutely no hard evidence other than a book, written by fallible men; not God itself!
@slimsxyblkwoman "thing that you've said about Atlantis and Lumera can DEFINITELY be said about Christianity,Jesus and all of the allegories that go along with it ".Much of the bible was proven.Noah's ark was found exactly where the Bible said it would be,Solomon's temple was found,recently they also found Solomon's mine.Not to mention Jesus's cross, and the fact that the existence of Jesus was also mentioned in non biblical sources, like Greek and Roman books written by non Christian historians
@Hidframe Have you ever heard the term, "he who conquers the land, writes history?" We all know that Christinanity is a global cabal and cult! This organization has incredible resources, influence and power - do you really think that conquerers and oppressors of the occultic knowledge, science and religions of Native Americans, Indigenous ppl and Egyptians. The corporate system have many dif brands under 1 umbrella to sell the illusion of non-partisan and choice and history is no different.
@slimsxyblkwoman "Have you ever heard the term, "he who conquers the land, writes history?" We all know that Christinanity is a global cabal".... I've heard a ton of conspiracy theories so far, however yours is by far the least founded.
"ancient scrolls, carvings and statues and Egyptian hiergliphics" I'm very sure that if anyone has ever seen an ancient Egyptian hieroglyph of a person using a computer, it would send shock waves threw out the world.
@slimsxyblkwoman "ancient scrolls,carvings and statues and Egyptian hiergliphics"...I thought these civilizations were ultra high tech and complex.In this case how come they used such primitive forms of writing?
You said in one of your comments that they even had computers,yet they chose to leave their HISTORY on bio-degradable scrolls of compressed vegetable materials like papyrus?That's like leaving your will on a bar napkin when you have a perfectly good laptop next to you. Come on,use logic.
@Hidframe@Hidframe They were highly advanced for their timeframe, and actually their languages and writings at the time were highly advanced for their own time and for a long while after.
@slimsxyblkwoman "This organization has incredible resources, influence and power".... The reason it does is because they actually did something from humanity. Ranging from the first hospitals and learning institutions, all the way to the technology we have today, Christianity did something for the people. Even a simple Christian that prays for the rest of humanity is more than what your "culture" offers. People like you see the rest of the world as a lost cause (continuing in part 2)
Actually the first hospitals were about long before christianity, infact roman Field hospitals for the army can be traced back to the first punic war, yet alone education (which when christianity took hold was stemmed heavily and any who tried to advance ere burned alive or had to fight total war for several hundred years)
@slimsxyblkwoman (Part 2) You feed your ego with fairytales of ancient civilizations in order to make yourself believe you are superior to everyone else, and you wait for the day when the rest of humanity fades away, and "the GREAT awakening" comes. If you are part of a cult or religion and everyone else in it thinks like you do, than without a doubt i can say that it has to be the world center for selfishness and ignorance. (Continuing in part 3)
@slimsxyblkwoman (Part 3) In the meanwhile in my country I've seen countless contributions made by the Christian church. Communities that were destroyed by floods, were rebuilt with funds raised by Christians, Homeless people who lost their houses in floods, were hosted by Christian families, We even sent funds to help non Christian countries like Japan, after the tsunami disaster. (I don't recall any Egyptian, Indian or Native American charities being raised for those people) (Continuing in 4)
@Hidframe By the way, I speak the language of the land in order to communicate with those who have no other way of communicating beyond their extreme limitations. If everyone were truly in God-higher-mind we wouldn't need the definitions and language of fallible men! We could communicate telepathically, where no mistunderstanding, misinterpretation or lies can be shared but you can't begin to comprehend the language that I prefer to speak because you are a self-identified closed-off Christian.
@slimsxyblkwoman (Part 4)...and yet you are the one that calls us "closed-off Christians" ?
If more people thought and acted like you, society would stop in it's tracks.
Personally i have a great family, a happy and healthy lifestyle, a stable relationship, a great community and i have Christianity to thank for all that.
Ah the charities, just because those groups are unknown to you doesnt mean they dont exist, unlike the christian charities, those of other faiths beliefs or non beliefs (alot of athiest charities too) dont spread the word of their god and praise him while helping people, many just get on with it and move on, IIRC the red cresent (the islamic variant of red cross) was heavily involved in helping people in those events you mentioned.
@slimsxyblkwoman All you have is some fairy tale of a super natural civilization, that has only been written about by some senile tribesman in Africa, and a legend of a city that was never found, and probably never existed.... "'gardians' and 'awakened ones'"....If you seriously believe you are a "guardian" or an "awakened one" you really need some help. (I don't intend to offend you in any way). I also believed a ton of insane stuff in my distant past. However Christianity has shown me the way.
@Hidframe The history of my people, Indian, Egyptian & Moors dwells within my DNA! It also on ancient scrolls, carvings and statues and Egyptian hiergliphics as well as oral tradition! The truth of what I speak is so profound that the REAL reasons why black and brown people have been targets for extreme oppression, hate & genocide is the fear of the time that we are in, the GREAT awakening! A time when all lies will be exposed and the truth come to light, whether the unconscious like it or not!
@slimsxyblkwoman "dwells within my DNA!".... "The corporate system have many dif brands under 1 umbrella to sell the illusion".... Why do you believe the existence of DNA? Have you ever seen it yourself? Couldn't it be just as much a part of the "Infestation's" manipulation? After all, science progressed in western cultures, and was sponsored and developed by corporations.
@slimsxyblkwoman "They had computers then and telepathic powers and many abilities that would seem supernatural by our primitive perception."... In that case why aren't they here any more? How can a super evolved, high-tech, telepathic, sophisticated cultures simply vanish without leaving a single trace of their existence?
Further more, how does your theory of "Nature's selection and elimination of unwanted species" comply with the fact that these "Societies" are extinct?
@Hidframe "They had computers then and telepathic powers and many abilities that would seem supernatural by our primitive perception."... In that case why aren't they here any more? How can a super evolved, high-tech, telepathic, sophisticated cultures simply vanish without leaving a single trace of their existence? We 'gardians' and 'awakened ones' know what happened but it's a waste of time explaining it to people like you - it will go right over your head, just stick with ChristINSANITY
@slimsxyblkwoman "Religion indirectly helped mankind to fall from our once advance balanced state 2 what we see today."...Yet you benefit from a culture built by Christianity, and not by the Lumeria. However you still see religion as an enemy...
@slimsxyblkwoman Look....We all want something to believe in...We all seek answers to who we are, where we came from and why are we here, and are willing to believe the stupidest of stories that gives us a scenario that fits our logic. The creation naturally seeks its creator, and regardless how many earthy belongings we gather, we still feel a huge Gap inside.
@Hidframe This is the problem - we shouldn't be beLIEving in nothing, we should KNOW in something! As my spiritual brother states "beliefs are not facts" and yes, that longing to know something greater than us stems from an inner-feeling that there's more but we continue to get lost when we cling to beliefs systems, programs and GOD-spells that robs us of our inner knowing! I grew up in ChristINSANITY & rejected it the moment I found the real book of life , which is written on the soul of ALL!
@slimsxyblkwoman "Christianity, which teaches that fallen angels came into the earth realm and ultimately infested it "... No, Christianity does not speak of any "Infestation". It simply says that God created men with free will, and he let them chose if they want to follow him, or if they want to reject him and follow the way of the devil.
"fallen angels came into the earth realm"... Christianity only speaks on ONE fallen angel. His name was Lucifer
@Hidframe Any being or form that is not native to a collective world or body and cause that body to deteriorate or change from it's prestine form, would be deemed, alien, foreign or from a biological perspective, an infestation! I choose 'infestation" to make the point that humanity fell from an advanced state do to something that wasn't natural to our world or evolution! Christianity practicaly confirmes this through religious dogma and astrology and symbology, read and taken literally.
@slimsxyblkwoman People learned they can exploit that, and use our thirst for God, to make us believe truly stupid stories like Aliens or ancient super evolved civilizations. Many of us fall victims to these manipulations. Even i did, in one point of my life. But in time i realized i was wrong, and i returned to Christianity, and i never been happier. Not only that i finally filled that gap, but also due to the fact that i now have a great family and a happy and productive life.
@slimsxyblkwoman "The movie Avatar was a very telling example of this!"....Avatar was a science fiction movie. NOTHING from it reflects reality in any way. And if we're talking about propaganda here, how do you reply to the fact that many teenagers committed suicide after watching Avatar?
@Hidframe "Avatar was a science fiction movie. NOTHING from it reflects reality in any way. And if we're talking about propaganda here, how do you reply to the fact that many teenagers committed suicide after watching Avatar?" There is nothing new under the sun! Avatar is a reflection of what has already happened (art will ALWAYS immitate life). On a soul level, many knew this, which is why so many non-whites, got sick, depressed & yes, some have committed suicide after seeing it.
@slimsxyblkwoman "religion has played a BIG role in the madness that we see in our world". Even though some atrocities have been religion related, religion has also created the moral fabric of today's society. Most of the modern laws that we have today, are based on religious laws of the old testament. If there was no religion, we would have no real reason not to kill each other, steal from each other, rape each other or engage in intercourse with brothers, sisters, parents, animals...etc.
@slimsxyblkwoman Religion has also been the reason why culture appeared. Art as well, has started from religion. The entire society around you has been produced and motivated by religion. Assuming that you're from the US, i will also mention that the Founding Fathers of your country were Christian. And your entire country has been built by Christianity. (First schools were Christian, first hospitals as well)
@Hidframe Religion has it's positives, I will say that but when we consider ALL the history and present day ramifications, we can clearly see that its one of the most divisive and destructive mind-control programs ever known to man! Someone said it best when they said "Religion is likened to rat poision 99% of it tastes good but the .1% arsine, will KILL YOU! Religion most definitely KILLED spirituality, especially in the original people, which is why we are so broken and disconnected!
@slimsxyblkwoman Considering that, think of one thing. From the creation of the United States, your Founding Fathers instituted the death penalty for homosexuality, ever since 1776. Yet your entire country progressed and became the first world power and the first world economy. Homosexuality in your country only became legal in 2003. Coincidentally ever since, your economy slowly collapsed and the US dollar is slowly becoming just as valuable as the paper its made of.
@slimsxyblkwoman "does this stop prostitution, smoking and the selling and consumption of hard drugs?"...No, but laws help keep these things under control. It is why you probably never did heroin or cocaine, its also why you probably never got kidnapped by a pimp and forced in to prostitution, and its also why you probably don't smoke, or enjoy dining in a restaurant without someone smoking next to you.
@Hidframe There's an old saying "laws where meant to be broken" and ironically, the greatest breakers of the law are those who govern or suppose to uphold them. My original point remains - it makes sense to have laws that govern the land but to push laws trying to control a free-will Being's personal space, body and heart is Egocentric and will continue to fall on deaf ears! People will not stop doing what "they" feel is their inherent right, regardless of what laws fallible men pass!
@slimsxyblkwoman "laws where meant to be broken". That "old saying" that you speak of came from rapists before being sentenced to death during the dark ages.
awww not the Dalai Lama!... i thought he was awesome, not a bigot.
but then again, he doesnt condemn it, he just says he's not into it, but he never says "it must be forbiden" so thats something...
Mikeybetts 1 month ago
@Hidframe As I've said before, some gays practice anal sex and some straight people do it too! If your issue is with anal sex, then this debate shouldn't be about homosexuality - but rather the "act"! As I've said before, attraction and sexuality is very complex! It involves chemistry, biology, environment and personal choices. People like you have a strong desire to over-simplify this and push your narrow minded view as THE definition for all and this is how and why ignorance prevails!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
There are many other reasons besides the religions ones that indicate the fact that homosexuality is unnatural. If you simply look at the human body from a biological perspective you will realize that intercourse between a man and another man is unnatural. Not to mention all the anal ruptures, hemorrhoid infections and even anal cancers that occur due to these types of intercourse. The Bible told people for 2000 years that they shouldn't do that...They however need a disses to be convinced.
Hidframe 7 months ago
@Hidframe There are a lot of things we all do that would be considered unnatural or abusive and yes, we pay the consequences for them. There is no point in sighting out the so called 'wrongs' of one group when you are surely doing something yourself that will lead to sickness, disease and an untimely death. For instance, eating dead animals has proven to be linked to many cancers but you still eat and consume it, now don't you? Of course, I can go on and on but you should get my point.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman I understand your point perfectly. "eating dead animals has proven to be linked to many cancers" You're perfectly right about that. That's because humans are herbivores. We have a long digestive track and flat dental profiles, designed for grinding vegetables, unlike carnivorous that have pointy fangs and a short digestive track. So for humans to eat meat, it is indeed unnatural and unhealthy. It is why i chose to be a vegetarian.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Good that you are vegetarian but that's just one example of the things that we all do or done that is not natural or unhealthy... The list is too long to mention but my original point remains - somehow homosexuality has become the poster child for 'sin', 'immorality', 'evil', 'bad', etc., but yet, I witness everyday folks participating in and doing things that the Bible condemns or things that most or some would consider evil, bad or negative but these folks are rarely demonized - SAD!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "somehow homosexuality has become the poster child for 'sin', 'immorality', 'evil', 'bad', etc.," Indeed that's true. The reason why this happened is because homosexual activists have been putting pressure on governments to legalize same sex marriage. In some cases this happened, and in states like Massachusetts for example, Catholic adoption centers were forced to close down because the law forced them to place children in homosexual families, (next comment)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman Churches had pressure on them to marry same sex couples, schools thought children homosexual "values" and denied parents the right to pull their children from the specific classes where this happened, and many more. People didn't have a problem with homosexuality until it started to be shoved down people's throats.
The main reason why homosexuality is the "Poster child" of sin, like you said, is because the people who support it are aggressive, deceitful and abusive.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe said "Churches had pressure on them to marry same sex couples, schools thought children homosexual "values" and denied parents the right to pull their children from the specific classes where this happened, and many more. People didn't have a problem with homosexuality until it started to be shoved down people's throats."
Those are all untrue.
cmdrkoenig67 4 months ago
@cmdrkoenig67 "Those are all untrue." "In a stunning turn of events, Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley and leaders of Catholic Charities of Boston announced yesterday that the agency will end its adoption work, deciding to abandon its founding mission, rather than comply with state law requiring that gays be allowed to adopt children." (boston.c o m/news
Hidframe 4 months ago
@cmdrkoenig67 "Those are all untrue." "New Vancouver School Policy: Parents Refused Right to Pull Kids from Pro-Homosexual Lessons" (.lifesitenews.c o m)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@cmdrkoenig67 "Those are all untrue"...Simply Google anything from what i said in my comment and you will find a ton of evidence.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe No, there is not "tons" of evidence of any of them
cmdrkoenig67 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "the things that we all do or done that is not natural or unhealthy". Personally i do my best to avoid all those things, mostly because i want what's best for me. Now let's look at this topic from another perspective. Judging by your user name i assume you're a woman. I don't know if you have children or not, however let's assume that you have a son. Naturally you would also want what's best for him.
Imagine now that he comes home one day and says he's gay.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman How would you react to that? Wouldn't you try to get him help? Wouldn't you do your best to help him become normal, like everyone else?
Imagine now that his school teaches him that homosexuality is normal, and also speaking out against is illegal. Would you feel comfortable with this scenario?
Many people don't....That's why Homosexuality the "poster child" of evil.
(And for good reason)
Hidframe 4 months ago
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@Hidframe "That's why Homosexuality the "poster child" of evil.
(And for good reason)"
How are homosexuals the "poster children of evil" and "for good reason"?
cmdrkoenig67 4 months ago
@Hidframe The public school system also teaches that eating animal flesh and bi-products is good for the body and intelligent, spiritual people know better than that but where's the protest against this? The teaching of gayness in the schools was birthed out of the relentless and brutal treatment of children who are perceived as gay. Gays commit suicide at an alarming rate due to the open intolerance in this country & the best way to lesson this is to educate ppl & lesson their fears around it.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@Hidframe Most people have no real concept or understanding of 'cause & affect'. Homosexuality seems to be exploding in America because we focus on it; while oppressing and fearing it - by universal law, this causes an expansion and imbalance! This is also a dual reality - there's an opposite to everything but when there's an imbalance, one dominates the other. Our intolerence, fear and ignorance is creating this reality & if we don't like the world we see, we must become the change we want.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@Hidframe Although you may not understand it - homosexuality has it's place and it's not always about sex either... If it weren't meant to be - nature would have eradicated it by now. Homosexuals tend to have a level of creativity, sensitivity and masculine and feminine principals that your average 'feared' comforming straight male or female cannot hold or possess. Homosexuality is also natures way of population control but of course, man has thrown this out of whack through fear & ignorance.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "homosexuality has it's place....Homosexuals tend to have a level of creativity, sensitivity". Exactly what place do you believe they have? Do you really believe the world wouldn't be just as great if not better without fashion designers or hair stylists?
"If it weren't meant to be - nature would have eradicated it by now."...Nor was cancer and aids meant to be. Yet they are, and they're killing millions of people world wide. (continuing in comment 2)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman ...Nature is not selective, and it doesn't remove individuals that are not useful to it. It simply sustains every form of life that can feed on it.
Just like the examples i gave in the previous comment, homosexuality is also a disease. Even tho many people disagree with this and claim stupid stuff like its genetic, the fact is that many gay people turned straight, many straight people turned gay, and then of course there are also bisexuals out there. (continuing in comment 3)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe If nature isn't selective, then where are the many creatures and species that once roamed this land but are now existinct? When something no longer serves a 'purpose' to feed or support nature - it will eventually wipe it out. As long as humans procreate, there will be a broad range within the human biology and genome. People don't just turn gay or straight! IF someone switched sides, it's because this was in them all along - c'mon, you can't be that nieve?
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "If nature isn't selective, then where are the many creatures and species that once roamed this land but are now existinct?"...Most species were extinct due to climate shifts, cataclysmic events like comets, volcanic eruptions and most of all human interference. Other cases when species disappear are when they deplete their food resources, and are isolated so they can't find others. Those are accidental occurrences, not nature's will to "wipe them out"
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe From your perspective, you see natural disasters that wiped out an entire species as a bi-products of an accident but I see it as apart of natural selection! It's ironic that you cling to a wrathful God who controls everything, when it works to your vantage but now, you wish to suggest that cataclisms that wiped out entire species were climate shifts? Last I checked, all of these things are connected to nature & a part of nature is wiped out because of nature - it's natural!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "I see it as apart of natural selection! "....so you see a comet striking earth with the force of 200.000 nuclear bombs, lifting trillions of tons of dust and smoke in to the atmosphere, creating a blanket that the sun can't penetrate for hundreds of years...as being a part of nature's selection?
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "so you see a comet striking earth with the force of 200.000 nuclear bombs, lifting trillions of tons of dust and smoke in to the atmosphere, creating a blanket that the sun can't penetrate for hundreds of years...as being a part of nature's selection?" From my perspective - YES! Because the omniverse is orderly & conscious! You believer in God & I think even you would agree but like all Christians, you like to bend or exempt a God governing things when it doesn't serve your argument!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "From my perspective - YES! Because the omniverse is orderly & conscious!"...The universe is conscious? Are you serious?... " You believer in God & I think even you would agree".... If God created a cataclysmic event, then it's not a "Natural" phenomenon, nor is it nature's "consciousness" that intended the disappearance of something, it would be a divine interference.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "If God created a cataclysmic event, then it's not a "Natural" phenomenon, nor is it nature's "consciousness" that intended the disappearance of something, it would be a divine interference"
Are you suggesting that God isn't apart of nature and nature apart of God? Even if it were "divine interference" if God didn't approve of homosexuality - it would have been wiped out or existinct by now, be it naturally or divine interference! You only further validated my original point!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "if God didn't approve of homosexuality - it would have been wiped out or existinct by now"....Nope, because God loves his creation. And as stated in the Bible, he wants each and every one of us to return to him. He also gave us free will, so the only reason Homosexuality still exists is because WE as humans allowed it.
Besides, there are countless other atrocities that God doesn't approve of, yet THEY also exist.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "People don't just turn gay or straight! IF someone switched sides, it's because this was in them all along"...again, this is nothing more than your personal opinion unless you have some evidence to back it up.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Dude, use some common sense! Just about every person who mostly lived a straight life but turned gay have said that they have always had same-sex attractions but suppressed it, due to living in a climate full of intolerance, fear and ignorance! People are no longer living in the closet and hiding who they are because there's a better climate now for them to be OUT or embrace who they are, rather than live a lie for ignorant folks; this isn't just my opinion nor is it rocket science!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "be OUT or embrace who they are" /watch?v=Xrviw8nu7gQ&feature=mh_lolz&list=LLXrG-zqW_YpaJQQ1G0roiew
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "be OUT or embrace who they are" /watch?v=Xrviw8nu7gQ&feature=mh_lolz&list=LLXrG-zqW_YpaJQQ1G0roiew -"
Thanks but not interested... I don't care to take in bias information! This is why I am debating you and others like you because you are fed one side and your egos are comfortable with this. However, the time has come to realize that when egos run things, we are ran straight in the ground and evolution does not nor cannot occur! I know real empowered gays & they're rarely heard!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@Hidframe By the way, just like you suggest that everything that I say is my opinion - the same can be applied to you! However, the difference is that I can look at both sides of an equasion and not hold onto biases to uphold my ego or religious beliefs. Religiously minded persons tend to be among the most illogical, irrational and borderline insane people on the globe and as I've said before, religion in many ways helped to destroy humanity, not build it up! Give me REAL spirituality anyday!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "just like you suggest that everything that I say is my opinion - the same can be applied to you".... I posted my sources for almost every information i quoted. If you feel unconvinced about the legitimacy of my data, feel free to ask me for more specific links. (even though you will easily find them all if you Google them)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman ...So if there are bisexuals out there, who like having sex with both their own, and the opposite sex, that brings up the obvious question. Do they have the "gay gene" or not?. If they do, why do they also like the opposite sex? And if they don't, why are they attracted to their own sex?
All this can only lead to 2 possible answers.
1.Homosexuality is a mental disorder
2.Homosexuality is a perversion disguised as a gene
(Continuing in comment 4)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe I see your first mistake is like many other ignorant people. You continue to associate gays, bi's and the likes with only sex. You do know that many of these people want an emotional bond with the object of their desires? You do know that they want to build a life with the person they love as well? Is your attraction to what you like only about the sex act? Get real! Sexuality and attraction is not black & white and the sooner you understand this, the more you 'may' free your mind.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "I see your first mistake is like many other ignorant people. You continue to associate gays, bi's and the likes with only sex"...Their entire lifestyle is defined by their sexuality. So what should i associate them with?...Flying a kite?!
Regardless of what emotional bond they have, the fact of the matter is that their lifestyle is based on who they have sex with. Otherwise they would simply be called "room mates"
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "the sooner you understand this, the more you 'may' free your mind."......"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." (S.R. Shearer)
Hidframe 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman You haven't answered the question i asked you in my second response series.
"I don't know if you have children or not, however let's assume that you have a son. Naturally you would also want what's best for him.
Imagine now that he comes home one day and says he's gay.
How would you react to that? Wouldn't you try to get him help? Wouldn't you do your best to help him become normal, like everyone else?
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Homosexuality is also natures way of population control".If this population control was real there wouldn't be overpopulated countries like China and India.
"Homosexuality seems to be exploding in America because we focus on it".I must disagree with you there. It is because the US tolerates it and gives gay people media attention. In countries like mine (Romania) homosexuality has hardly been heard of until the past few years,and even today it is rare (Continuing in comment 5)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe There r 2 levels of homosexuality in this country, there's the progressive side to which gays are gaining political and economic power and is therefore, taking control of how they are portrayed in the media. Then there's that backlash to this, which many see as a 'gay agenda'... This backlash, is adding to and fueling the already ignorant and homophobic climate that I had previous spoken of. So both sides are riding each other and fueling the expansion of gay pride, power & pressence.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "So both sides are riding each other and fueling the expansion of gay pride, power & pressence.". Much like Nazism came to power. However just like every other political current, it will die out eventually.
Hidframe 4 months ago
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@Hidframe "Much like Nazism came to power. However just like every other political current, it will die out eventually" Yeap, and we are seeing intolerance and your position dying out and the gay people are gaining power, respect and influence... This is why you and so many with your mindset are upset, angry and bothered by it... The ego is one hell of a demon - don't you think? lol
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman So far in my country there have been only 3 gay parades that i know of. One ended in blood, the other ones were so tightly guarded by police forces that people from outside the parade could hardly see past the wall of law enforcements.
"oppressing and fearing it - by universal law, this causes an expansion " From your theory,countries like Uganda, that have a death penalty for homosexuals, should be teaming with them. However they have the lowest number of homosexuals in Africa
Hidframe 4 months ago
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Exactly!
keshawn888 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman (also adding to my previous comment) Uganda also has the lowest record of aids in all of Africa. Probably a coincidence of the fact that they have the lowest number of homosexuals...probably not...you decide.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe That's the most ignorant comment that you've posted because you are associating homosexuality with AIDS. Are you implying that other parts of Africa has rampant AIDS because there's rampant homosexuality? There's homosexuality in every facet of society, even Uganda! These people may have super immune systems like many scientists are finding that certain Africans have but to say their low-AIDS rate is tied to little or no homosexuality is again, ridiculous and stereotypical!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "you are associating homosexuality with AIDS" .... "The high concentration of white blood cells around the rectum, together with the risk of cuts to the rectum and that one of the functions of the rectum is to absorb fluid, increases the risk of HIV transmission because the HIV retrovirus reproduces within the immune system's T-cells/CD4 cells." (Wikipedia)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Again, you keep linking gays with anal sex (your mind is so warped). There are gays who don't practice anal sex! Some are celibate! There are straight people that do participate in anal sex! In fact, it's widely known that straights (particularly Latins) practice anal sex as a form of birth control or to retain vaginal virginity! We won't talk about the porn industry that mostly driven by straight men! Straight men masturbate and enjoy anal sex more than most will admit!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "These people may have super immune systems"...So you're saying that only Ugandans have this immune system? Normally people develop stronger immune systems when they live in worse parts of the world, not the better ones. Uganda is know as "The pearl of Africa", so if someone is going to develop an immunity to aids, it should be far less likely to develop it there.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Uganda is knowns as the pearl of Africa? Are you serious??? That country recently experienced genocide where countless men, women and children were slaughtered! They've dealt with extreme poverty, rampant rapes of women (even some men/boys) and their infrastructure isn't the best in Africa at all! These people are not the best symbol of African moral authority - not even close! Sorry but only an ill-informed, hetero-insecure, non-black would say such idiotic things!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Uganda is knowns as the pearl of Africa? Are you serious???"...Absolutely. Do a Google search for Uganda and you will see.
"That country recently experienced genocide where countless men, women and children were slaughtered! "...I seriously have no idea where you get your info from. Uganda is one of the safest countries in Africa. It is why many people flock to Uganda from all over Africa. However let's not forget that it IS a third world country though.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe If you didn't know that Uganda had one of the worst genocides in the history of that country, it's pretty evident as to why you posted that ignorant comment! I have not forgotten it's a third world country either but it's pretty apparent that your original comment - you forgot by stating that it's the pearl of Africa??? I bet you didn't know that great parts of Africa is just as developed as any state in America! You need to stop trusting what you see & read in the mass media!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "you forgot by stating that it's the pearl of Africa??? ".... Simply Google the worlds "Perl of Africa" and you will notice that the first 20 - 30 pages of results are titled Uganda, or are referred to Uganda. I didn't state anything, I'm just quoting what other thousands of people said.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "you forgot by stating that it's the pearl of Africa??? ".... Simply Google the worlds "Perl of Africa" and you will notice that the first 20 - 30 pages of results are titled Uganda, or are referred to Uganda. I didn't state anything, I'm just quoting what other thousands of people said." THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM, EVERYTHING YOU POST HERE IS BASED OF OFF VIEWS THAT YOU CAN'T PROVE OR VALIDATE. DO YOU KNOW ANY UGANDANS, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN THERE? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO AFRICA? LIKELY NOT!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM, EVERYTHING YOU POST HERE IS BASED OF OFF VIEWS THAT YOU CAN'T PROVE OR VALIDATE"... A few thousand people who share the same view isn't sufficient validation?
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Those same thousands of people were educated, brainwashed and conditioned by the same system and rulers that you were taught by! I am sure that the majority of those who have a herd or mainstream mentality are damn near incapable of thinking for themselves! You and people like you depend on a majority point of view because you see this as proof that you are right but the truth is, the majority are zombies/robots and slaves but sadly most of them don't even know it!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Those same thousands of people were educated, brainwashed and conditioned by the same system and rulers that you were taught by!"....so were you. Otherwise you wouldn't know how to read this comment. What amuses me about people like you is that you take the fruits of this "Infestation" for granted, yet you criticize it at the same time.
Hidframe 3 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "You and people like you depend on a majority point of view because you see this as proof that you are right but the truth is, the majority are zombies/robots and slaves"... Nope, i simply use my brain instead of blindly rejecting everything that comes from a majority.
Hidframe 3 months ago
@Hidframe We won't even get into the fact that AIDS was created in a lab by some evil white men, as a bio weapon to wipe out certain 'undesirables' of society! So your attempt to associate this disease with some inherent homosexual behavior is weak because the very premise as to how and why AIDS ahs and is ravashing gays, blacks and Latinos is not based in nature! It's based in evil men, trying to play God!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "how and why AIDS ahs and is ravashing gays, blacks and Latinos is not based in nature! It's based in evil men, trying to play God!" .Official studies show that aids originated in Africa somewhere and it was transmitted from animals to humans. Despite of this i also believe it was created in a lab. however aids is well known to spread faster in the homosexual community, rather than the heterosexual one. (i mentioned why in the previous comment)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe AIDs is most prevalent in the heterosexual community and the gay community infection rate has declined in comparison. We all know that it started in the gay community in America and the native African community in the black community. Both were used as unknowing and unwilling vectors to harvest the virus! I remember when homophobes were saying it's a wrath on homos but today, we see that on a global scale, heteros women are the most infected! Saying that its a gay disease is ignorance!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@Hidframe You can't say that Uganda has a low percentage of homosexuality! I am sure that given the hostile environment towards it - those who do it are doing it secretly but I garantee you that there's a cause and affect occuring as we speak! The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent but watch what happens in the next 10 years (if humanity is still here).
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "You can't say that Uganda has a low percentage of homosexuality! I am sure that given the hostile environment towards it - those who do it are doing it secretly "... Unless you come with some evidence to back that up, its nothing more than your personal opinion. Statistically Uganda has the lowest number of homosexuals in Africa.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent "...Sorry that's not true. Uganda's hate towards homosexuality started around the year 1880, when homosexual king Mwanga ascended to the throne. He created laws that required all the men of his kingdom to submit to his sexual desires if requested. This is why Uganda today is so harsh in its legislation when it comes to homosexuality.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe You are mixing apples and oranges! Doesn't matter how long the country held certain beliefs about homosexuality! What I am saying is that the gays and lesbians in that country are starting to stand and fight for their right to OPENLY love and live like any other person! This stance, is bringing all of these deeply held fears, bias, hate to the surface and is ultimately creating an epic 'cause & affect' that I had previously mentioned. You can't hate, oppress & deny without consequences
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "You are mixing apples and oranges! Doesn't matter how long the country held certain beliefs about homosexuality!"... You said "The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent but watch what happens in the next 10 years (if humanity is still here)."...I'm not mixing anything. I just proved your wrong.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "You are mixing apples and oranges! Doesn't matter how long the country held certain beliefs about homosexuality!"... You said "The explosive hatred and overt violence towards gays in that country is recent but watch what happens in the next 10 years (if humanity is still here)."...I'm not mixing anything. I just proved your wrong." What proof? All you've done is cite your beliefs, opinions and data from sources that are of the same mindset as yours!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "What proof? All you've done is cite your beliefs, opinions and data from sources that are of the same mindset as yours!"...Most of my data comes from Wikipedia and it is approved by historians.
Again, you claimed Uganda's hate for homosexuals is recent. I gave you proof that it's not recent, and that Ugandans have been dead set against homosexuality since 1880.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "You can't hate, oppress & deny without consequences" They don't hate, oppress or deny anything. They simply don't want to have anything to do with homosexuality in their country. It is their belief that homosexuality is immoral and dangerous to their society. So all they are doing is saying "Be straight, or go somewhere else!"
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "You can't hate, oppress & deny without consequences" They don't hate, oppress or deny anything. They simply don't want to have anything to do with homosexuality in their country. It is their belief that homosexuality is immoral and dangerous to their society. So all they are doing is saying "Be straight, or go somewhere else!" Yeap, beating up, murdering and passing laws to justify jailing and murdering consenting adults isn't hatred, oppression and denial of one's free will! SAD!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Yeap, beating up, murdering and passing laws to justify jailing and murdering consenting adults isn't hatred, oppression and denial of one's free will"... They are not scouting the world looking for homosexuals to beat up, jail or murder. They simply don't want to have them in their country. Votes have been held for those legislation's, therefore it's what people want. So the real denial of "one's free will" would be if these legislation's DIDN'T pass.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe It doesn't matter if these people scout out homosexuals to abuse or deny at all, the point is that any group that Unganda is citing a minority group and using the fear, ignorance and religion to 'oppress'... You continue to support discrimination and oppression as long as you don't fall into that class and this is why you will have your own form of inequality because you are ok with it being done to another. Votes once supported the continuation of slavery - so what does that prove?
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@Hidframe Ugandans are not the most civil or good example of a sane or civil society. Again, millions of Ugandans were slaughtered by their own people! When this was happening, no one took the streets, joined in arms or anything like we've seen with them when it comes to homosexulaity. Just goes to show that their priority is way out of sync, just like many other blacks all around the world and this is one of the reason why we still hurt and struggle terribly!We need 2 get out of ppl's love-life
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "There is no point in sighting out the so called 'wrongs' of one group" I must disagree with you there. Normally when something is hazardous to our health and even life threatening, it is a moral obligation to make others aware of it.
"yes, we pay the consequences for them" Indeed. However people should know the consequences first.
There is a reason why there are giant warnings on cigarette packs informing people of the dangers of smoking.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe There is nothing unnatural about homosexuality...It's just unnatural for you. More than 1,000 animal species (besides human beings) have been documented as engaging in homosexual activities and some among those animal species even form life-long same-sex relationships (such as swans, American Bison, penguins, dolphins, antelope, etc...).
cmdrkoenig67 4 months ago
@cmdrkoenig67 "More than 1,000 animal species have been documented as engaging in homosexual activities". If this is true, it only proves that homosexuality is a mental disorder. Sexual desire is designed for only one purpose, and that's reproduction. When a certain number of individuals from a species are unable to reproduce because they are not attracted by the opposite sex, it means that its a disorder. If you had enough of these individuals in a species, it would be extinct.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@cmdrkoenig67 Besides, a desire to engage in activity that can lead to physical injury, illness or death can't possibly be called anything else other than a mental disorder (if its natural), Or a perversity (if its unnatural)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Sex between a man and a woman can result in injury, illness and death too. You need better evidence to support your claims.
cmdrkoenig67 4 months ago
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@cmdrkoenig67 "Sex between a man and a woman can result in injury, illness and death too." If we're talking about anal sex, yes. In the case of vaginal sex, this is fairly unlikely to happen. Mainly because a woman's vagina was designed FOR intercourse, since it IS a sex organ, unlike an anus that is designed to eliminate fecal matter and is used inappropriately for sex.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Vaginal sex between a man and woman can't result in injury? Are you serious? Are you telling me that there aren't people who have died from syphillis, AIDs and other forms of cancer from vaginal intercourse? There's gonoreah clamedia, which leads to all forms of injury. I am so done debating this matter because you are obsessed with sex, when human attraction is far more complex than this. Homosexuality has always been and will always be! Trying to stop it is a waste of time & energy.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Vaginal sex between a man and woman can't result in injury?" I didn't say that, i said it is far less likely to happen, comparing to anal sex, since the vagina is designed for intercourse (being a sex organ) wile the anus is designed to eliminate fecal matter, and is inappropriately used for sex.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Are you telling me that there aren't people who have died from syphillis, AIDs and other forms of cancer from vaginal intercourse?" Syphilis and Aids are STD's, and result from having intercourse with more than one partner. I was not debating the spread of STD's thew anal or vaginal sex, i was pointing out the diseases that result from physical damage to the anus, resulting from intercourse.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Even if you were pointing out the physical damage through the 'act' of vaginal and penial intercourse - you are still in error! Women do receive tearing and microscopic tears in our vaginia and it can be painful to us as well. Men, can get microscopic tears on the sensitive parts of the head of their penis from friction, especially when their is little to no lubricant. It is those microscopic tears that allows viral infections to get inside of our body!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "you are still in error! Women do receive tearing and microscopic tears in our vaginia and it can be painful to us as well"....Go to a hospital and talk to a proctologist. Ask him how many cases he gets every week, of men and women with severe anal ruptures, intense anal bleeding, hemorrhoid infections and many more problems, all resulting from anal intercourse.
Then go to a gynecologist and ask him how many women he gets with similar vaginal issues every week.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe No, you are in propaganda! I know people who work in the medical field and what's NOT being reported in MOST of those statistics is that those who have severe issues with their anus are men and women, who are prostitutes and/or into sticking large objects in there (weird fetishes).. So in truth, these are examples of extreme abuse of the anus, not anal sex itself! Anything that's abused, will eventually show it and this is something that everyone does to some degree or another!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "those who have severe issues with their anus are men and women, who are prostitutes"....are you serious? I personally know people who ended up with cancers from complications that appeared due to hemorrhoids. Even without ever having any anal intercourse, from something as common as a constipation, they ended up with severe anal ruptures.
Hidframe 4 months ago
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slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "those microscopic tears that allows viral infections to get inside of our body! "....You're aether not getting my point, or you're avoiding it.
Hidframe 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "Homosexuality has always been and will always be! Trying to stop it is a waste of time & energy." In my country it has been viewed as it truly is. A mental illness, and it has been treated as such, with successful results over the years. Today's media brings tons of lies and manipulations to my country, and stops the people who need help, from seeking it. I find this to be insane, and i will invest as much time and energy as i can to fight this.
Hidframe 4 months ago
Hidframe said: "The Bible told people for 2000 years that they shouldn't do that...They however need a disses to be convinced."
Disses? What do you mean by that?
cmdrkoenig67 4 months ago
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Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe The truth of the matter is that there's not one single homosexual who hasn't heard that it's wrong or immoral but they continue to do them. Since this is a free will planet, it's not our place to infringe upon the choices and will of consenting adults. Pushing our moral code or belief on others is humanities greatest problem. Too many ppl want to push our version of morality on another person but we don't like it being done to us because we think our moral code is right for everyone.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "there's not one single homosexual who hasn't heard that it's wrong or immoral but they continue to do them."...Many homosexuals stopped practicing homosexuality because of their religious belief. If you check out my playlists on my channel you will find a collection of ex-gay testimonies that i found just by randomly surfing on Youtube in one afternoon.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Yes, there are some people who said that they were no longer homosexual but was it really because they changed or just suppressed it? There are just as many men who said that they only suppressed their desires to be accepted by their church, family and friends. Some do it out of 'fear' of going to some hell. Some of these people may have never really been gay to begin with but to assume that everyone whose gay 'changes' or 'can change' under the same conditions is ridiculous.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Yes, there are some people who said that they were no longer homosexual but was it really because they changed or just suppressed it?" Most of these people now have normal lives, kids, and families.
"There are just as many men who said that they only suppressed their desires to be accepted by their church, family and friends. " In that case they simply didn't seek treatment, or didn't find the proper one.
(You can bandage a wound, or act like you don't have one)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe You will say anything to try to justify your limited, black-&-white, belief system and way of thinking! I don't care how much 'treatment' anyone receives, you cannot change people orientation! You cannot force people to 'naturally' be attracted to something they are not, while simultaneously making them NOT attracted to something that they are! To believe this is only fooling yourselves and perpetuating more lies and an imbalance.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "not our place to infringe upon the choices and will of consenting adults"...In this case why are there laws against prostitution, marketing and consumption of hard or even light drugs, incest marriage, and in some countries even against smoking?
We all agree that activities like smoking should be illegal because they are unhealthy, yet we promote and support a self destructing unhealthy and dangerous lifestyle that is caused by a treatable mental condition?
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Laws are written by other fallible men and an overwhelming majority of these men break the very laws that they pass or write, you know it and I know it! It still boils down to imperfect men, trying to dictate or control other men/women. So what if all the things you've listed is against the law but does this stop prostitution, smoking and the selling and consumption of hard drugs? People will always do things that may or may not be healthy for them but it's still their right to do so.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Laws are written by other fallible men and an overwhelming majority of these men break the very laws that they pass or write, you know it and I know it"...I sincerely don't care if they break them or not. Tho some laws are passed only to suite some people's economic interests indeed, others however, are guidelines that ensure a civilized community for all of us. In a Religion-less world, these laws are all that keep society from breaking down, and turning in to a free for all.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "In a Religion-less world, these laws are all that keep society from breaking down, and turning in to a free for all" - No, you have the illusion of a civil society and ironically, religion has played a BIG role in the madness that we see in our world. Religion is a relatively new concept within the human diaspora! Before religion, we were spiritual Beings! There was no disrespect of one another, animals nor the earth because we were ONE with it-religion DESTROYED this connection!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Before religion, we were spiritual Beings! There was no disrespect of one another, animals nor the earth because we were ONE " "Religion is a relatively new concept within the human diaspora".... The earliest evidence for prehistoric religion in India date back to the late Neolithic in the early Harappan period (5500–2600 BCE)." (Wikipedia)
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Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Before religion, we were spiritual Beings!"...So before 5500BC (Prehistoric times) you're saying humans were spiritual beings? Are you seriously saying that cave men that smack each other over the head with clubs, hunting animals with rocks, are spiritual beings? Honestly, based on this statement i am seriously starting to question your mental state.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe When I say 'we' where spiritual Beings before religions, I am talking about the natives of earth! The organic ancients, the indeginous people, NOT the neanderthal and that's going into an entirely story! An outer-infestation came into the earth realm and literally turned it upside down! The movie Avatar was a very telling example of this! My mental state is just fine but yours is off because you've bought into the propaganda & lies that the "infestation" feeds you!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "When I say 'we' where spiritual Beings before religions, I am talking about the natives of earth! The organic ancients, the indeginous people".... Now I am seriously questioning your mental state... If you're referring to the native Americans by "Natives", I'd like to inform you that they also had religions. They were polytheists and believed in spirits of bears, wolves and other animals (and ironically hunted them at the same time)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman In the same period also lived civilizations in South America. The Inkan empire for example is also pre-Columbian, and they were also polytheists. "Inca leadership encouraged the worship of Inti—the sun god—and imposed its sovereignty above other cults..." (Wikipedia). They were also well known for having human sacrifices. Very "Spiritual" indeed...
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Again, you cling to and reference history that Westerners have measured and if you are relying on Western science and religion to give you the information that I am speaking of - you really are a lost cause. Speaking of 'sun Gods' do you realize that you are worshipping in a 'sun god' when you celebrate the westerners version of Jesus.. The "SUN" of God - not the "SON" of God... It's all a play on words, they have so many sheeple fooled, lol.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Again, you cling to and reference history that Westerners have measured"...No i am clinging on to internationally recognized history, not the teachings of some senile tribesman.
Hidframe 4 months ago
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slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@Hidframe "No i am clinging on to internationally recognized history, not the teachings of some senile tribesman" Those "senile tribe men" are highly respected and greatly feared, which is why many of these gatekeepers were slaughtered and murdered all throughout history by Europeans and those of their elk! They wanted to destroy any and all traces of the true history of the land and well as spirituality, so that they could introduce religion! However, we are reverting back to spirituality!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "you are worshipping in a 'sun god' when you celebrate the westerners version of Jesus.. The "SUN" of God - not the "SON" of God."....The bible clearly condemns the worship of all idols, including the sun. There are even passages in the Bible that speak of followers of the early Christianity that have been brutally tortured and killed by Greek or Roman people for NOT worshiping false entities like sun gods.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "spiritual Beings before religions".... It is a historically documented fact that the oldest religion is Hinduism, dating all the way back to 5500bc. Can you please name ANY documented civilization before that time, that you consider as being composed of "Spiritual beings" ?
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "Can you please name ANY documented civilization before that time, that you consider as being composed of "Spiritual beings" ? That's the point, we didn't have a name nor was a name required because we simply were! There was no language barrier or name because there was a time when we were androgynous & communicated telepathically. This is apart of history that only African/Indian shamans & elders still speak of. Look up the wisdom of Credo Mutwa, the oldest living African shaman.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "That's the point, we didn't have a name nor was a name required because we simply were!"... So if there is no documented or written proof of these civilizations what on earth makes you believe they existed?
"communicated telepathically."...I seriously don't mean to offend you in any way, but I'm stunned to see that you don't realize how ridiculous that sounds.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe The documentation of these things is within the spirit/soul of every single man and woman but of course, if you are focused on an external God and not connected to your inner-God, you won't have any comprehension of anything that I speak in this regard. This is what being 'conscious' is truly about! When you connect with your inner-God-self, you don't need to rely on the words and documentation of other fallible men "out there" because you rely on the 'book of life' stored within!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "An outer-infestation came into the earth realm and literally turned it upside down!".... Do you play Starcraft or something?
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "An outer-infestation came into the earth realm and literally turned it upside down!".... Do you play Starcraft or something?" Once again, you show ignorance and bias with this statement. Aren't you a believer in Christianity, which teaches that fallen angels came into the earth realm and ultimately infested it with 'ungoldly' sins? Oh, I get it - I have to use your buzz words for you to comprehend -- thanks but no thanks! Religion is an enemy in my eyes!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Religion is an enemy in my eyes"... Yet if it didn't exist you wouldn't know how to read this comment, nor would there be any machine to read it on. The entire world culture and development was founded by religion. Yet you believe its "an enemy" and YOU know better when you follow the belief of some African shaman that speaks of "organic" civilizations that nobody heard about.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Have you ever heard of anicent Altantis or Lumeria? This was a time before time and these civilizations were waaay more advanced in technology and spirituality than we are today! They had computers then and telepathic powers and many abilities that would seem supernatural by our primitive perception. They didn't rely on religion! Religions are a relatively new concept, as stated before! Religion indirectly helped mankind to fall from our once advance balanced state 2 what we see today.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Have you ever heard of anicent Altantis or Lumeria? " Absolutley.
Altantis - The legend of a Greek city that nobody ever found.
Lumeria - mythological legend of a lost civilization dating back to over 25,000 B.C, that was never documented.
"these civilizations were waaay more advanced in technology and spirituality than we are today!". Yet not a single scrap of their culture or technology was ever found...
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Lol, again, you demonstrate your pathetic nature to pick and choose what you want to accept as truth when it serves pr don't serve your interests. The same thing that you've said about Atlantis and Lumera can DEFINITELY be said about Christianity, Jesus and all of the allegories that go along with it but in your mind, all of these things really happened and are true, although there's absolutely no hard evidence other than a book, written by fallible men; not God itself!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "thing that you've said about Atlantis and Lumera can DEFINITELY be said about Christianity,Jesus and all of the allegories that go along with it ".Much of the bible was proven.Noah's ark was found exactly where the Bible said it would be,Solomon's temple was found,recently they also found Solomon's mine.Not to mention Jesus's cross, and the fact that the existence of Jesus was also mentioned in non biblical sources, like Greek and Roman books written by non Christian historians
Hidframe 3 months ago
@Hidframe Have you ever heard the term, "he who conquers the land, writes history?" We all know that Christinanity is a global cabal and cult! This organization has incredible resources, influence and power - do you really think that conquerers and oppressors of the occultic knowledge, science and religions of Native Americans, Indigenous ppl and Egyptians. The corporate system have many dif brands under 1 umbrella to sell the illusion of non-partisan and choice and history is no different.
slimsxyblkwoman 3 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "Have you ever heard the term, "he who conquers the land, writes history?" We all know that Christinanity is a global cabal".... I've heard a ton of conspiracy theories so far, however yours is by far the least founded.
"ancient scrolls, carvings and statues and Egyptian hiergliphics" I'm very sure that if anyone has ever seen an ancient Egyptian hieroglyph of a person using a computer, it would send shock waves threw out the world.
Hidframe 3 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "ancient scrolls,carvings and statues and Egyptian hiergliphics"...I thought these civilizations were ultra high tech and complex.In this case how come they used such primitive forms of writing?
You said in one of your comments that they even had computers,yet they chose to leave their HISTORY on bio-degradable scrolls of compressed vegetable materials like papyrus?That's like leaving your will on a bar napkin when you have a perfectly good laptop next to you. Come on,use logic.
Hidframe 3 months ago
@Hidframe @Hidframe They were highly advanced for their timeframe, and actually their languages and writings at the time were highly advanced for their own time and for a long while after.
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "This organization has incredible resources, influence and power".... The reason it does is because they actually did something from humanity. Ranging from the first hospitals and learning institutions, all the way to the technology we have today, Christianity did something for the people. Even a simple Christian that prays for the rest of humanity is more than what your "culture" offers. People like you see the rest of the world as a lost cause (continuing in part 2)
Hidframe 3 months ago
@Hidframe
Actually the first hospitals were about long before christianity, infact roman Field hospitals for the army can be traced back to the first punic war, yet alone education (which when christianity took hold was stemmed heavily and any who tried to advance ere burned alive or had to fight total war for several hundred years)
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman (Part 2) You feed your ego with fairytales of ancient civilizations in order to make yourself believe you are superior to everyone else, and you wait for the day when the rest of humanity fades away, and "the GREAT awakening" comes. If you are part of a cult or religion and everyone else in it thinks like you do, than without a doubt i can say that it has to be the world center for selfishness and ignorance. (Continuing in part 3)
Hidframe 3 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman (Part 3) In the meanwhile in my country I've seen countless contributions made by the Christian church. Communities that were destroyed by floods, were rebuilt with funds raised by Christians, Homeless people who lost their houses in floods, were hosted by Christian families, We even sent funds to help non Christian countries like Japan, after the tsunami disaster. (I don't recall any Egyptian, Indian or Native American charities being raised for those people) (Continuing in 4)
Hidframe 3 months ago
@Hidframe By the way, I speak the language of the land in order to communicate with those who have no other way of communicating beyond their extreme limitations. If everyone were truly in God-higher-mind we wouldn't need the definitions and language of fallible men! We could communicate telepathically, where no mistunderstanding, misinterpretation or lies can be shared but you can't begin to comprehend the language that I prefer to speak because you are a self-identified closed-off Christian.
slimsxyblkwoman 3 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman (Part 4)...and yet you are the one that calls us "closed-off Christians" ?
If more people thought and acted like you, society would stop in it's tracks.
Personally i have a great family, a happy and healthy lifestyle, a stable relationship, a great community and i have Christianity to thank for all that.
Hidframe 3 months ago
@Hidframe
Ah the charities, just because those groups are unknown to you doesnt mean they dont exist, unlike the christian charities, those of other faiths beliefs or non beliefs (alot of athiest charities too) dont spread the word of their god and praise him while helping people, many just get on with it and move on, IIRC the red cresent (the islamic variant of red cross) was heavily involved in helping people in those events you mentioned.
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman All you have is some fairy tale of a super natural civilization, that has only been written about by some senile tribesman in Africa, and a legend of a city that was never found, and probably never existed.... "'gardians' and 'awakened ones'"....If you seriously believe you are a "guardian" or an "awakened one" you really need some help. (I don't intend to offend you in any way). I also believed a ton of insane stuff in my distant past. However Christianity has shown me the way.
Hidframe 3 months ago
@Hidframe The history of my people, Indian, Egyptian & Moors dwells within my DNA! It also on ancient scrolls, carvings and statues and Egyptian hiergliphics as well as oral tradition! The truth of what I speak is so profound that the REAL reasons why black and brown people have been targets for extreme oppression, hate & genocide is the fear of the time that we are in, the GREAT awakening! A time when all lies will be exposed and the truth come to light, whether the unconscious like it or not!
slimsxyblkwoman 3 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "dwells within my DNA!".... "The corporate system have many dif brands under 1 umbrella to sell the illusion".... Why do you believe the existence of DNA? Have you ever seen it yourself? Couldn't it be just as much a part of the "Infestation's" manipulation? After all, science progressed in western cultures, and was sponsored and developed by corporations.
Hidframe 3 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "They had computers then and telepathic powers and many abilities that would seem supernatural by our primitive perception."... In that case why aren't they here any more? How can a super evolved, high-tech, telepathic, sophisticated cultures simply vanish without leaving a single trace of their existence?
Further more, how does your theory of "Nature's selection and elimination of unwanted species" comply with the fact that these "Societies" are extinct?
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe "They had computers then and telepathic powers and many abilities that would seem supernatural by our primitive perception."... In that case why aren't they here any more? How can a super evolved, high-tech, telepathic, sophisticated cultures simply vanish without leaving a single trace of their existence? We 'gardians' and 'awakened ones' know what happened but it's a waste of time explaining it to people like you - it will go right over your head, just stick with ChristINSANITY
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
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@slimsxyblkwoman "Religion indirectly helped mankind to fall from our once advance balanced state 2 what we see today."...Yet you benefit from a culture built by Christianity, and not by the Lumeria. However you still see religion as an enemy...
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman Look....We all want something to believe in...We all seek answers to who we are, where we came from and why are we here, and are willing to believe the stupidest of stories that gives us a scenario that fits our logic. The creation naturally seeks its creator, and regardless how many earthy belongings we gather, we still feel a huge Gap inside.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe This is the problem - we shouldn't be beLIEving in nothing, we should KNOW in something! As my spiritual brother states "beliefs are not facts" and yes, that longing to know something greater than us stems from an inner-feeling that there's more but we continue to get lost when we cling to beliefs systems, programs and GOD-spells that robs us of our inner knowing! I grew up in ChristINSANITY & rejected it the moment I found the real book of life , which is written on the soul of ALL!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "Christianity, which teaches that fallen angels came into the earth realm and ultimately infested it "... No, Christianity does not speak of any "Infestation". It simply says that God created men with free will, and he let them chose if they want to follow him, or if they want to reject him and follow the way of the devil.
"fallen angels came into the earth realm"... Christianity only speaks on ONE fallen angel. His name was Lucifer
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Any being or form that is not native to a collective world or body and cause that body to deteriorate or change from it's prestine form, would be deemed, alien, foreign or from a biological perspective, an infestation! I choose 'infestation" to make the point that humanity fell from an advanced state do to something that wasn't natural to our world or evolution! Christianity practicaly confirmes this through religious dogma and astrology and symbology, read and taken literally.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman People learned they can exploit that, and use our thirst for God, to make us believe truly stupid stories like Aliens or ancient super evolved civilizations. Many of us fall victims to these manipulations. Even i did, in one point of my life. But in time i realized i was wrong, and i returned to Christianity, and i never been happier. Not only that i finally filled that gap, but also due to the fact that i now have a great family and a happy and productive life.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "The movie Avatar was a very telling example of this!"....Avatar was a science fiction movie. NOTHING from it reflects reality in any way. And if we're talking about propaganda here, how do you reply to the fact that many teenagers committed suicide after watching Avatar?
Hidframe 4 months ago
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@Hidframe "Avatar was a science fiction movie. NOTHING from it reflects reality in any way. And if we're talking about propaganda here, how do you reply to the fact that many teenagers committed suicide after watching Avatar?" There is nothing new under the sun! Avatar is a reflection of what has already happened (art will ALWAYS immitate life). On a soul level, many knew this, which is why so many non-whites, got sick, depressed & yes, some have committed suicide after seeing it.
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "religion has played a BIG role in the madness that we see in our world". Even though some atrocities have been religion related, religion has also created the moral fabric of today's society. Most of the modern laws that we have today, are based on religious laws of the old testament. If there was no religion, we would have no real reason not to kill each other, steal from each other, rape each other or engage in intercourse with brothers, sisters, parents, animals...etc.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman Religion has also been the reason why culture appeared. Art as well, has started from religion. The entire society around you has been produced and motivated by religion. Assuming that you're from the US, i will also mention that the Founding Fathers of your country were Christian. And your entire country has been built by Christianity. (First schools were Christian, first hospitals as well)
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe Religion has it's positives, I will say that but when we consider ALL the history and present day ramifications, we can clearly see that its one of the most divisive and destructive mind-control programs ever known to man! Someone said it best when they said "Religion is likened to rat poision 99% of it tastes good but the .1% arsine, will KILL YOU! Religion most definitely KILLED spirituality, especially in the original people, which is why we are so broken and disconnected!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman Considering that, think of one thing. From the creation of the United States, your Founding Fathers instituted the death penalty for homosexuality, ever since 1776. Yet your entire country progressed and became the first world power and the first world economy. Homosexuality in your country only became legal in 2003. Coincidentally ever since, your economy slowly collapsed and the US dollar is slowly becoming just as valuable as the paper its made of.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "does this stop prostitution, smoking and the selling and consumption of hard drugs?"...No, but laws help keep these things under control. It is why you probably never did heroin or cocaine, its also why you probably never got kidnapped by a pimp and forced in to prostitution, and its also why you probably don't smoke, or enjoy dining in a restaurant without someone smoking next to you.
Hidframe 4 months ago
@Hidframe There's an old saying "laws where meant to be broken" and ironically, the greatest breakers of the law are those who govern or suppose to uphold them. My original point remains - it makes sense to have laws that govern the land but to push laws trying to control a free-will Being's personal space, body and heart is Egocentric and will continue to fall on deaf ears! People will not stop doing what "they" feel is their inherent right, regardless of what laws fallible men pass!
slimsxyblkwoman 4 months ago
@slimsxyblkwoman "laws where meant to be broken". That "old saying" that you speak of came from rapists before being sentenced to death during the dark ages.
Hidframe 4 months ago