Osu! GB Kyokushin has a great waterfall training in the Breacon Beacons in South Wales each year on the first Saturday in the New Year usually about 20 - 30 Kyokushin go there and we enter the falls and do a set of punches It is one of the best ways to start a year
@namimm1 Osu! I was very sick and with Kyoukushin my body started to change. Now Im healthy and I cant believe that I had spent so many years of my life without this, Kyokushin Karate is like food to my spirit and body
the putz who refers to MMA as "strongest" listen , no MMA guys will be around in middle age and they will be like football players and boxers when they are elderly. the naivity of youth
i love karate, from switzerland osu!!!!!! thanks too sensai mislim imerosky 5 dan too save my live and too by my second and real father.karate forever!! learn and go you Do(way)kiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!and never give up never!!!!
@yamadago I've never heard people say Kyokushin would be the strongest of martial arts, I have heard them say it's the strongest Karate. Without takeing a position on this, I don't agree with you with what you said about MMA.
The punch formation is completely different. I see the Shotokan is more stable. I mean the shoulders hardly move, the usage of hara is more effective in Shotokan. But in Kyokushin one can increase the attack range with punch.
Those are my observations but I am not sure. Can you explain briefly the strong part of those punches in the video?
I think tthe shoulders move forward and backward too much compared to shotokan. Hips (or should I say 'Hara' instead. Both are important) are key points of an effective punch also in shotokan but shoulders hardly move when practicing in YoiDachi.
[Btw I am telling those in order to obtain more information about Karate. I am a pure amateur.]
@cuauhtle Idk.. I mean the power does come from the hips, on this video they do punch the way you said.... Then again, it depends from the person. Some people prefer punching "far". Well, we don't do that.....:)
Also, on this video not all do that. And we don't know the level of all these people!
@yamadago I have seen. I have never had an intention on looking for "the truth" from there. Why would I? No truth, just fighting. Fighting which people think is the true fighting.. I don't know why.. There's nothing special there.
@pastropmal (to Kyokushin Fighter) (maybe you are) (maybe or some Kyokushin Fans) let's stop discussing. I like Kyokushin karate. Especially, MAS OYAMA when alive's Kyokushin. And, the most important thing in Karate is a continuing thing. I think that the continuing thing develops man. In the thing to keep practicing the Karate, an important thing that is strong and not weak whom. I like krevnov,feitosa,filho,petas(nicolas),and andy hug. Sorry,My English is poor.
@leonardo2795 for concentration and endurance training. I study kyokushin and when it snows my sensei loves to make us run and meditate in the snow just for that kind of training.
@leonardo2795 Although I do not know, I will attempt an educated guess; its either a good punch speed indicator (when your knuckles hit the water), or, maybe he was sweating like a peodophile at a preschool and needed to cool off?
@leonardo2795 Although I do not know, I will attempt an educated guess; its either a good punch speed indicator (when your knuckles hit the water), or, maybe he was sweating like a peodophile at a preschool and needed to cool off? lol
@leonardo2795 Although I do not know, I will attempt an educated guess; its either a good punch speed indicator (when your knuckles hit the water), or, maybe he was sweating like a peodophile at a preschool and needed to cool off?
guys ive invented my own style, its called "FATTY KARATE" it involves eating like fuck, doing big shits & playing x-box...the winner is always the one who stays up longest & doesnt fall asleep! OSSSUUUU
has anybody here ever used kyokushin in a real fight. is it effective. it seems to me it just taekwondo with punches, no grappling, no head punches, low guard. why do so many kyokushin fighters cross train in kickboxing, including my own sensai. i admit kyokushin makes a tough body, but is it over rated for real fighting?
hi there, i train in mma and kyokushin, i have used kyokushin in real fights many times, mainly the ball of foot liver kick, and in real fights on the street the blocking and evasive aspect has helped a lot, i feel kyokushin is very good, however my base style is more boxin/mauy thai with aspects of kyokushin added
how comes everybody i know has to cross train kyokushin with muay thai or kickboxing, as i said before including my own sensai. doesn't that tell you something.
it does, which is in my opinion kyokushin in its own is not so effective, however, me personally, i've found it has supplemented my mma very well and made me a better fighter, and i do know some full contact knock down fighters who only do kyokushin and they are very good/tough fighters, it goes down to the individual as well
can i ask your advice. i've been training kyokushin for 3 months. my teacher wants me to enter competitions soon. i love kyokushin and me and the sensai are great friends. but recently i started also training in daido juku, which is kyokushin, with grappling and punches to the head. my kyokushin sensai fought in the european championships. my daido juku teacher fought in the worlds. should i leave kyokushin, i want to be a good fighter so i need to be well rounded in everything.
continued, the problem is i dont want to hurt my sensais feelings as i really like him by just leaving after he has put som much effort into training me hard. but my other problem is i know kyokushin is to one dimensional. i dont think ican do both simultaneously but for now that is my solution.
tough situation you have, the thing to remember is, i train as a mixed martial artist, so i need to have a lot of aspects to my game, i have good ground game from wresteling and good stand up from muay thai/boxing and karate, my dad is a 2nd dan in kyokushin, in a mma fight or boxing fight i would win, however in a street fight my dad would probably win due to his extensive karate knowledge, i'm not an expert on daido juko, but it does seem very interesting, as it retains all the good aspects
one possible thing to do is carry on training in kyokushin till you get to a high level then maybe try other styles? if you have a good relationship with your sensei that is a very good thing, and if you enjoy it, that's good, luckily i have the opportunity to do both mma and kyokushin, but if i had to do one or the other, it would be mma, so daido juku seems like a good choice
@reydmc im doin mma at the moment and did shotokan for 3 years before that. how would u describe the relation between mma striking and kyokushin? cause i wanna do kyokushin afterwards
I wouldnt even consider MMA a martial art, but to compare Kyokushin striking, it is similar to boxing. Shotokan for me was more zen and mind set rather than physical strength, toughness, and practicality. Kyokushin will make you stronger, tougher, and have more respect and discipline throughout your life, and it is very practical and would help a great amount in any fight. Make sure it is an IKO1 Kyokushin dojo though. Check out Kyokushin you will not regret it. OSU!
Kyokushin huh??? make you stronger tougher and have more respect. what if I say most kyokushin practitioner have no respect of other martial art, they always thought they are the best. I don't blame kyokushin on this. but the practitioner are trained like that. Shotokan is stronger than kyokushin if they train their fighter to be tough and yet still have a really good zen.
@ZEN824 other than lyoto machida name another successful professional fighter from Shotokan. Successful professional fighters form Kyokushin include Andy Hug, Glaube Feitosa, Fransisco Filho, Peter Smit, Sam Greco, Ewerton Teixeira, Alexander Pitchkinov, Peter Graham, Michael Thompson, Georges St Pierre, Nobuaki Kakuda, Bas Rutten ETC, ETC. . Shotokan did not accept the Thai challenge, Kyokushin did and won. This is why Kyokushin is considered best amongst karate.The RESULTS speak for themselves
Why should Shotokan not accept a challenge. You see lyoto machida being succesful at it, thats one example. his brother has destroyed some thai fighters as well. but i dont wanna say either one is better.
kyokushin is also sport. that why it is so popular. its way of fighting is attracting people, got nothing to do with its effectivity. i can tell u any boxer will lose against any mma fighter, thai boxer, karateka...but it is most popular. why? cause people love watching it...
@CarlitoJohnson Idon't know why Shotokan would not accept the challenge. Only Funikoshi can answer that. The fact that they did not accept the challenge is not in dispute. Oyama, out of respect for his former Shotokan and Goju masters aproached them first to see if they were going to accept the Thai challenge on behalf of karate. For reasons only known to them they declined, so Oyama sent a team. 3 fights were held with the result 2 - 1 to Kyokushin karate. look it up.
@CarlitoJohnson I'm not saying anything is the best style. MMA is not a style hence the name MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. You may doubt it or not but the fact of the matter is that the challenge was made to all Japanese Karate and Funikoshi and Yamaguchi chose for what ever reason not to take part. This is recorded historical fact. Obviously no style is the best but Kyokushin is solid effective traditional martial arts like many other styles including Shotokan. Oyama was himself 4th dan Shotokan. respect
@aldridge1 i would only believe out of an act of peace they wouldnt accept. but shotokan is traditional karate, its a deadly streetform of fighting, not much of a sport anymore. ive done it for 3 years like i said, and im doing mma now. but as a shotokan karateka i will challenge any thaiboxer.
there are thaiboxers at my mma gym. i just came from striking class. whooped their asses, not just talking, i actually got hit only one significant time with a mid kick...thats it.
I have trained Kyokushin for longer than you have been alive along with other styles and I have never seen this disrespecting other styles you speak of. All kyokushin tournaments are open to all styles and we are proud of our brothers from other styles who choose to enter Kyo full contact events. Go enter one yourself and you will see the respect, spirit and openess that somehow you have missed.
on the street, you need to prepare for everything from the fist till the blades. so to be prepare for every attack on the street you can't put your hands up if you put your hands up than your tomach is vulnerable for a blade. put your hands down, if any attack to your head it is more easy to spot and dodge. Shotokan way is more practical in a sudden street attack. kyokushin is good for controlled fight like on the ring and so.
but remember there are many top ufc/mma fighters who started with normal kyokushin, looks up fighters georges st pierre (gsp) the current ufc welterweigth champion, bas rutten (former ufc heavyweight champion)
@bluecollarcanuck, thanks mate but i have already left kyokushin for kudo, which is a new style formed by a former kyokushin world champion. its basically mma, but it allows head butt as well, i feel so much more comfortable in this style as it properly simulates the street fight.
@israelifaggot No, it isn't. Neither is Shotokan, IMHO. I'd say it all depends on your own will in a "street" situation- all you need to do is destroy your attacker's will to resist.
i love karate kyukushin, but we don't have kyukushinkay's master in our city, so i'm learning an training alone by myself, until i'll have the chance to learn from a great master, osu!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me too. We were in the bush, got really dirty, ran across a waterfall and took a shower. Man, did I feel better. Soap would have made it better but had none in the c-rations.
osu would you deny that training your spirit does not make you a stronger fighter than you would have been if you had NOT trained your spirit??? that is what the water fall is about.osu
They start jogging at the top of the mountain decending until they reach this spot. then they train the kihon or basics under the freezing weather/water. What does this do? it makes your body real hard and also the repitition under these hard conditions makes punching and kicking like a second nature so in a real fight you will react very fast to guard or counter or even make use of an openning on the enemy's side.
It's not the belt, it's what's behind the belt. That's why i like tai chi chen style, there is no belts, just skill, from real training, not standing under ice and frezzzzzzzzing cold water punching like a retard.
its to make your endurance stronger dumb ass so dont diss them but your right about the belt it does not matter i hate the system as well and this is real training as you say just a different form i bet you dont even know how to punch correctly
god damn i wonder how long they have to do those 1.2 punches!
but damn..i want to train in a traditional karate school...many students..equals more positive energy, more positive energy= better training....atleast thats the way i see it
I disagree, I think your success depends on your coach. and the coach usually does exercices connected with the style. So somehow it is connected with style.
Because you do characteristic evxercices. eg in MT you stronger your knees elbows etc..
I think the person, who gives you tips and motivation, is half responsible for your success, the rest depends on the heart and your will to fight.
@GevryVince Be careful! Style in the west usually means there is variation in junk. Styles in true karate still teach a martial art with martial focused training. Style is very relevant if it seperates truth from crap.
@bluecollarcanuck Bayonet fighting is a martial art. If a Marine is trained in bayonet fighting and never is in combat he still trained in a martial art. The distinction I make is that karate was originated as a martial art. It was intended to injur, maim or kill if necessary. They trained in the techniques and tactics they developed to do so and those in true karate still do so.
@IEKUKATAKA "It was intended to injur, maim or kill if necessary." You will never hear from a real karateka that his Martial were inteded to injure or kill a opponent. the outcome might happen to injure him or worse, kill him but the best thing the karateka could do is disable the opponent and make sure no one gets harmed.
@rammsund Quite the contrary. A real karate-ka would say just what I said. The problem you have is that you, just like most of the west, know nothing of real karate. Karate is not just what we want it to be at any time we want. Do a little study, learn of history in Okinawa, be willing to accept the truth and get back to me. If you think what is seen on TV, YouTube or in the west in general is karate you have other thoughts coming and probably a large disappointment.
@bluecollarcanuck As for the mention of the west, the western ego could screw up an anvil. I have been back from Japan for 45 years and all I see, with few exceptions, is junk, liars, frauds and pretenders that call themselves karate players. We have insulted the Okinawans as a whole by having the gall to call what I see karate. They know it and they laugh at it.
@IEKUKATAKA I do take the training seriously, though; although I agree about the Western attitudes. Training ain't what it used to be, even here. I've seen some 8th kyus do better in kata than 5th or 4th kyus.
@GevryVince beacuse there is a since of pride behind everyones training no matter if you fight or cycle or play soccer or even inline skate be proud of your style and prove that it too is worthy.
One world One kyokushin - Osu from Denmark.
inpersona66 1 day ago in playlist Martial Arts
whats benefit of punching the cold water fall ?
subongkosh 3 weeks ago
ossh...
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OSU FROM GERMANY!!!!
Sacume 2 months ago
grande el karate!! :D
fxm4nch3ro99 2 months ago
Osu from Poland!
gloomyboi 3 months ago 3
OSU! from singapore!
helsinki 3 months ago
OOOOSU! good kihon.
honkykilla 4 months ago
that's a lot of tzuki's
mrkiky 5 months ago
My Kancho Royama,founder of Kyokushin-kan and only man to reportedly go twice through the hyakunin kumite twice(not officially recorded). .Osu
kyokushinBlackForest 6 months ago
@kyokushinBlackForest
As far as i know Masutatsu Oyama way founder of Kyokushinkai...
MaykyShpayky 5 months ago
Osu from Canada!
odjrin 6 months ago
Osu!!! Sensei Kishi 1:50
mpallotti54 7 months ago
OSU, from the Netherlands/Amsterdam
ittitanteklootzak 7 months ago
OSU from Costa Rica!
buffersize 7 months ago
Osu! GB Kyokushin has a great waterfall training in the Breacon Beacons in South Wales each year on the first Saturday in the New Year usually about 20 - 30 Kyokushin go there and we enter the falls and do a set of punches It is one of the best ways to start a year
Osu
Senpai Phil Tokei Dojo London
Philiokyokushin 7 months ago
What song?
daswerdasss 8 months ago
1:39 Ryu's training begins
machinesmith 8 months ago
great way to lose a leg walking without shoes in a cold place
ImDeathNote 8 months ago
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62piesset 8 months ago
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62piesset 8 months ago
Kancho Royama
KyokushinkanGermany 9 months ago
This is nr. 1 sport in Siberia. :P
Cigo2010 9 months ago 2
WTF with the song!?
Zejex15 9 months ago
Osu from Lithuania
gjievaltiene 9 months ago
@Mincho178, I`m really glad to hear you`re doing fine now.
namimm1 9 months ago
today is good (o) freedom is nippon.is forgine no well is into no is very.wrbedzinski
bedzinskiwr 9 months ago
Anyone know whats this song?:) I plan to play it every morining to self motivet to train ;)
Thx!
OSU from Poland!
niebyt86 10 months ago
osu from holland
64dude123 10 months ago
OSU from Poland!
szader 10 months ago
Life is totally different after Kyokushin!
namimm1 10 months ago 61
@namimm1 Osu! I was very sick and with Kyoukushin my body started to change. Now Im healthy and I cant believe that I had spent so many years of my life without this, Kyokushin Karate is like food to my spirit and body
mincho178 10 months ago
@namimm1 I know my groin has never been the same.....
robertelliottlangs 9 months ago
@namimm1 not only after Kyokushin
MrLukes1995 5 months ago
OSU from scal
namimm1 10 months ago
OSU desde Peru¡
salooocus 11 months ago
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salooocus 11 months ago
the putz who refers to MMA as "strongest" listen , no MMA guys will be around in middle age and they will be like football players and boxers when they are elderly. the naivity of youth
ThePslapid 11 months ago
OSU from Lithuania!
domus96 11 months ago
Hitotsu..ware ware wa...! (Y'all know the rest) OSU! representing the Big Apple by way of parts unknown, Japan
ankokugaiBOSS 11 months ago
OSU from Misawa, Japan!
radiorasun 11 months ago
is that from "Enter the dragon"? KITSCH!
gregor1972 11 months ago
no for me the strongest karate it's the uechi ryu
Diapasonism 11 months ago
OSU from kuwait !
bo3z0scout 11 months ago
OSU! from Australia!
TheKyokushinPSYCHO 1 year ago
i love karate, from switzerland osu!!!!!! thanks too sensai mislim imerosky 5 dan too save my live and too by my second and real father.karate forever!! learn and go you Do(way)kiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!and never give up never!!!!
shadowskater11 1 year ago 23
@yamadago all martial arts are equal.
Jcoynemartialarts 1 year ago
The aim is to keep ure hands up all the time.
lakc24 1 year ago
The strongest MARTIAL ART was officially announced SAMBO.
recoom16 1 year ago
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I'm japanese.and I like karate(kyokushi and traditional karate both).
But karate(kyokushin and other fullcontact karate) is not strongest.
Strongest of pitfighting is MMA's specialist,like a PRIDE fighter or UFC fighter.
yamadago 1 year ago
@yamadago I've never heard people say Kyokushin would be the strongest of martial arts, I have heard them say it's the strongest Karate. Without takeing a position on this, I don't agree with you with what you said about MMA.
pastropmal 1 year ago
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cuauhtle 1 year ago
@pastropmal 56 seconds ago
The punch formation is completely different. I see the Shotokan is more stable. I mean the shoulders hardly move, the usage of hara is more effective in Shotokan. But in Kyokushin one can increase the attack range with punch.
Those are my observations but I am not sure. Can you explain briefly the strong part of those punches in the video?
cuauhtle 1 year ago
@cuauhtle The power comes from the hip, that makes the punches strong. Why is shotokan more stable?
pastropmal 1 year ago
@pastropmal
I think tthe shoulders move forward and backward too much compared to shotokan. Hips (or should I say 'Hara' instead. Both are important) are key points of an effective punch also in shotokan but shoulders hardly move when practicing in YoiDachi.
[Btw I am telling those in order to obtain more information about Karate. I am a pure amateur.]
cuauhtle 1 year ago
@cuauhtle Idk.. I mean the power does come from the hips, on this video they do punch the way you said.... Then again, it depends from the person. Some people prefer punching "far". Well, we don't do that.....:)
Also, on this video not all do that. And we don't know the level of all these people!
pastropmal 1 year ago
@cuauhtle punching power comes from the legs. You just channel it through your waist and upper body. =)
kageromaru 11 months ago
@pastropmal
Ok,Iclearly say.
I told about MMA fighting's strongerst.
KyokushinFighter is getting his stuff beaten out of him.This is true. at MMA and k-1.
Have not you seen?MMA fighting?and k-1?
There is truth there.
yamadago 1 year ago
@yamadago I have seen. I have never had an intention on looking for "the truth" from there. Why would I? No truth, just fighting. Fighting which people think is the true fighting.. I don't know why.. There's nothing special there.
pastropmal 1 year ago
yamadago 1 year ago
@pastropmal
kyokushin had made "Strength in the all martial arts" a watchword in old times.
But, it was not true.
「地上最強のカラテ」 と謳っていたのです。
これは空手以外の全ての格闘技において「最強だ」と謳い文句にしていたのです。
しかし、それは事実ではなかった。
まあ当然と言えば当然と言えます。
yamadago 1 year ago
@yamadago
Correction
"Strongest in the all martial arts"
yamadago 1 year ago
i give this a hearty thumbs down
bndctus 1 year ago
1:28 why the fuck is he doing that?
leonardo2795 1 year ago
@leonardo2795 for concentration and endurance training. I study kyokushin and when it snows my sensei loves to make us run and meditate in the snow just for that kind of training.
TheRogueMexican 1 year ago
@TheRogueMexican cool
leonardo2795 1 year ago
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@leonardo2795 Although I do not know, I will attempt an educated guess; its either a good punch speed indicator (when your knuckles hit the water), or, maybe he was sweating like a peodophile at a preschool and needed to cool off?
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@leonardo2795 Although I do not know, I will attempt an educated guess; its either a good punch speed indicator (when your knuckles hit the water), or, maybe he was sweating like a peodophile at a preschool and needed to cool off? lol
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@leonardo2795 Although I do not know, I will attempt an educated guess; its either a good punch speed indicator (when your knuckles hit the water), or, maybe he was sweating like a peodophile at a preschool and needed to cool off?
IHateToTellYou 1 year ago
@leonardo2795 cold freezing water stings when hiting against the flesh with such force, hes endurring the pain. makeing him and his fists stronger.
faster12341 1 year ago
@faster12341 ok tnks
leonardo2795 1 year ago
the music should be TLC's - don't go punchin waterfalls
Eamzy24 1 year ago
AAAAARGH!!!, OSU!!!!!!!!X)
SORASTRIFE001 1 year ago
wow - the guy on 1:28 punches a water fall - he must be strong ...:-D
CapitanoGUC 1 year ago
@CapitanoGUC
wll considering that behind him there is massive ice I'd say the water isn't really warm ... so yeah imo he must really be strong ;)
XxTestProfilxX 1 year ago
@XxTestProfilxX well - then he would rather punch that block of ice - init ??? :-D
CapitanoGUC 1 year ago
@CapitanoGUC
damn you I guess you are right :D
XxTestProfilxX 1 year ago
Man I wish I could train just one day by Mas Oyama.
I would got 10 times stronger.
Had 10 times more knowledge.
And my respect level would be increased by 10 times.
And my mentality would be strong as iron.
Osh!
R.I.P karate grandmaster and loving father and husband Mas Oyama.
c0d24live23 1 year ago
@c0d24live23 Then you should honour him by training just as hard now.
ChanGengYun 1 year ago
@ChanGengYun I am, Mas Oyama's lifestory motovates me :) OSH!
c0d24live23 1 year ago
@c0d24live23 OSU!
ChanGengYun 1 year ago
@ChanGengYun Okay It's morning here I"m going to do my daily 10 miles jogging and train in the forest.
c0d24live23 1 year ago
That are men. Not the guys who are standig at the bus station and think they can fight.
THAT are real men. Real japanese fighter. Not that neo anime guys and girl. Real honourable japanese karate fighter.
cave321 1 year ago
DAMNN!! this music GIVES ME THE POWEEER!!
Zerospy 1 year ago
What song is that?
crewifyable 1 year ago
OMG! i thought the those were the only people at the waterfal! XD
crewifyable 1 year ago
i lov my art
1KnuCKLeBusTeR 1 year ago
what is that bullshit in the end? XD
MrTodorych 1 year ago
Their deltoids must be real burning.
cordellchantack 1 year ago
guys ive invented my own style, its called "FATTY KARATE" it involves eating like fuck, doing big shits & playing x-box...the winner is always the one who stays up longest & doesnt fall asleep! OSSSUUUU
yulaw3 1 year ago
@yulaw3 TRAIN ME MASTER! xD
TreeZOwnYou 1 year ago
many of these fighters show poor technique: look at the guy on the lft at 2:10 and the kid at 2:37 they make to much unnessecary movements - _ - ''
Koensol 1 year ago
My syle: To fight without fighting
My Technique: To have no Technique
When the enemy expands I contract, when the enemy contracts I expand.
Who is my opponent?: No one, cause the word "I" does not exist.
What do I do when I see an opening?: I do not hit, (shows my fist) it hits all by itself.
harukohayashi 1 year ago
Oooh, check out the can can girls kicking & dancin in tha water.. (LOL) JK
billyjacc 1 year ago
so weak x)
WindKayak 1 year ago
They got BALLS
kashpc 2 years ago
you don't
metallaz 1 year ago
has anybody here ever used kyokushin in a real fight. is it effective. it seems to me it just taekwondo with punches, no grappling, no head punches, low guard. why do so many kyokushin fighters cross train in kickboxing, including my own sensai. i admit kyokushin makes a tough body, but is it over rated for real fighting?
israelifaggot 2 years ago
hi there, i train in mma and kyokushin, i have used kyokushin in real fights many times, mainly the ball of foot liver kick, and in real fights on the street the blocking and evasive aspect has helped a lot, i feel kyokushin is very good, however my base style is more boxin/mauy thai with aspects of kyokushin added
reydmc 2 years ago
how comes everybody i know has to cross train kyokushin with muay thai or kickboxing, as i said before including my own sensai. doesn't that tell you something.
israelifaggot 2 years ago
it does, which is in my opinion kyokushin in its own is not so effective, however, me personally, i've found it has supplemented my mma very well and made me a better fighter, and i do know some full contact knock down fighters who only do kyokushin and they are very good/tough fighters, it goes down to the individual as well
reydmc 2 years ago
can i ask your advice. i've been training kyokushin for 3 months. my teacher wants me to enter competitions soon. i love kyokushin and me and the sensai are great friends. but recently i started also training in daido juku, which is kyokushin, with grappling and punches to the head. my kyokushin sensai fought in the european championships. my daido juku teacher fought in the worlds. should i leave kyokushin, i want to be a good fighter so i need to be well rounded in everything.
israelifaggot 2 years ago
continued, the problem is i dont want to hurt my sensais feelings as i really like him by just leaving after he has put som much effort into training me hard. but my other problem is i know kyokushin is to one dimensional. i dont think ican do both simultaneously but for now that is my solution.
israelifaggot 2 years ago
tough situation you have, the thing to remember is, i train as a mixed martial artist, so i need to have a lot of aspects to my game, i have good ground game from wresteling and good stand up from muay thai/boxing and karate, my dad is a 2nd dan in kyokushin, in a mma fight or boxing fight i would win, however in a street fight my dad would probably win due to his extensive karate knowledge, i'm not an expert on daido juko, but it does seem very interesting, as it retains all the good aspects
reydmc 2 years ago
one possible thing to do is carry on training in kyokushin till you get to a high level then maybe try other styles? if you have a good relationship with your sensei that is a very good thing, and if you enjoy it, that's good, luckily i have the opportunity to do both mma and kyokushin, but if i had to do one or the other, it would be mma, so daido juku seems like a good choice
reydmc 2 years ago
thanks man, i'll think about it.
israelifaggot 2 years ago
@reydmc im doin mma at the moment and did shotokan for 3 years before that. how would u describe the relation between mma striking and kyokushin? cause i wanna do kyokushin afterwards
CarlitoJohnson 1 year ago
I wouldnt even consider MMA a martial art, but to compare Kyokushin striking, it is similar to boxing. Shotokan for me was more zen and mind set rather than physical strength, toughness, and practicality. Kyokushin will make you stronger, tougher, and have more respect and discipline throughout your life, and it is very practical and would help a great amount in any fight. Make sure it is an IKO1 Kyokushin dojo though. Check out Kyokushin you will not regret it. OSU!
KyokushinkaiKubota1 1 year ago
@KyokushinkaiKubota1 why must it be IKO1 dojo if i may ask? what are the difference between the organization? and how many are there if i may ask?
honor438 1 year ago
Kyokushin huh??? make you stronger tougher and have more respect. what if I say most kyokushin practitioner have no respect of other martial art, they always thought they are the best. I don't blame kyokushin on this. but the practitioner are trained like that. Shotokan is stronger than kyokushin if they train their fighter to be tough and yet still have a really good zen.
ZEN824 1 year ago
@ZEN824 other than lyoto machida name another successful professional fighter from Shotokan. Successful professional fighters form Kyokushin include Andy Hug, Glaube Feitosa, Fransisco Filho, Peter Smit, Sam Greco, Ewerton Teixeira, Alexander Pitchkinov, Peter Graham, Michael Thompson, Georges St Pierre, Nobuaki Kakuda, Bas Rutten ETC, ETC. . Shotokan did not accept the Thai challenge, Kyokushin did and won. This is why Kyokushin is considered best amongst karate.The RESULTS speak for themselves
aldridge1 1 year ago
Why should Shotokan not accept a challenge. You see lyoto machida being succesful at it, thats one example. his brother has destroyed some thai fighters as well. but i dont wanna say either one is better.
kyokushin is also sport. that why it is so popular. its way of fighting is attracting people, got nothing to do with its effectivity. i can tell u any boxer will lose against any mma fighter, thai boxer, karateka...but it is most popular. why? cause people love watching it...
CarlitoJohnson 1 year ago
@CarlitoJohnson Idon't know why Shotokan would not accept the challenge. Only Funikoshi can answer that. The fact that they did not accept the challenge is not in dispute. Oyama, out of respect for his former Shotokan and Goju masters aproached them first to see if they were going to accept the Thai challenge on behalf of karate. For reasons only known to them they declined, so Oyama sent a team. 3 fights were held with the result 2 - 1 to Kyokushin karate. look it up.
aldridge1 1 year ago
@aldridge1 dude u are seriously trying to say its the best style. it doesnt work like that. mma has shown that.
anyways i highly doubt that funakoshi wouldnt have accepted a challenge.
CarlitoJohnson 1 year ago
@CarlitoJohnson I'm not saying anything is the best style. MMA is not a style hence the name MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. You may doubt it or not but the fact of the matter is that the challenge was made to all Japanese Karate and Funikoshi and Yamaguchi chose for what ever reason not to take part. This is recorded historical fact. Obviously no style is the best but Kyokushin is solid effective traditional martial arts like many other styles including Shotokan. Oyama was himself 4th dan Shotokan. respect
aldridge1 1 year ago
@aldridge1 i would only believe out of an act of peace they wouldnt accept. but shotokan is traditional karate, its a deadly streetform of fighting, not much of a sport anymore. ive done it for 3 years like i said, and im doing mma now. but as a shotokan karateka i will challenge any thaiboxer.
there are thaiboxers at my mma gym. i just came from striking class. whooped their asses, not just talking, i actually got hit only one significant time with a mid kick...thats it.
CarlitoJohnson 1 year ago
I have trained Kyokushin for longer than you have been alive along with other styles and I have never seen this disrespecting other styles you speak of. All kyokushin tournaments are open to all styles and we are proud of our brothers from other styles who choose to enter Kyo full contact events. Go enter one yourself and you will see the respect, spirit and openess that somehow you have missed.
aldridge1 1 year ago
on the street, you need to prepare for everything from the fist till the blades. so to be prepare for every attack on the street you can't put your hands up if you put your hands up than your tomach is vulnerable for a blade. put your hands down, if any attack to your head it is more easy to spot and dodge. Shotokan way is more practical in a sudden street attack. kyokushin is good for controlled fight like on the ring and so.
ZEN824 1 year ago
but remember there are many top ufc/mma fighters who started with normal kyokushin, looks up fighters georges st pierre (gsp) the current ufc welterweigth champion, bas rutten (former ufc heavyweight champion)
reydmc 2 years ago
@israelifaggot dude i REALY dont think you need to leav kyokushin
i traind 9 years and its realy realy help you !!!!
0watsupPiple 2 years ago
nice man
what degree are u ? dan?
CarlitoJohnson 1 year ago
@israelifaggot Cross-train in grappling & groundwork, too.
bluecollarcanuck 1 year ago
@bluecollarcanuck, thanks mate but i have already left kyokushin for kudo, which is a new style formed by a former kyokushin world champion. its basically mma, but it allows head butt as well, i feel so much more comfortable in this style as it properly simulates the street fight.
israelifaggot 1 year ago
@israelifaggot No, it isn't. Neither is Shotokan, IMHO. I'd say it all depends on your own will in a "street" situation- all you need to do is destroy your attacker's will to resist.
bluecollarcanuck 1 year ago
there is no strongest karate.
It's the fighterspirit of the fighter who's strong.
mfsweb 2 years ago
i love karate kyukushin, but we don't have kyukushinkay's master in our city, so i'm learning an training alone by myself, until i'll have the chance to learn from a great master, osu!!!!!!!!!!!!
thoyama 2 years ago
I got ten times stronger just listening to the music
Worlddrifter 2 years ago 63
@Worlddrifter XD LMFAO
crewifyable 1 year ago
Osu Yea
szader 1 year ago
i did training under a waterfall before, its actually harder than it looks
andsbest 2 years ago
Me too. We were in the bush, got really dirty, ran across a waterfall and took a shower. Man, did I feel better. Soap would have made it better but had none in the c-rations.
IEKUKATAKA 2 years ago
@IEKUKATAKA we had to do push ups and sit ups in the mud, i had to do it in a puddle :L
andsbest 1 year ago
The Strongest Martial Arts is Karate!
And the Strongest Karate is
Kyokushin Karate.
OSU!
lenardregencia 2 years ago 5
@lenardregencia
haha you are funny, i like your joke...so it's proven that karate is the strongest martial arts?
maxma3 2 years ago
actually i'm serious 'bout it . :D
lenardregencia 2 years ago
How so?
IEKUKATAKA 2 years ago
baka lang. (just maybe)
lenardregencia 2 years ago
Lang wakata nigh. Anatawa bakka desuka?
IEKUKATAKA 2 years ago
it's a Filipino Word. hehehe
lenardregencia 2 years ago
capisce? (get it?) (understand?)
lenardregencia 2 years ago
Hai, soo desu. Gomen nasai :)
i'm just playing the words. Since "baka" means maybe in our country.
lenardregencia 2 years ago
Hai! Wakatimasu! Oyama sanwa "bakka lang" desu. Oyama sanwa bakkatadiga desu! Kiotsukite! Sayonara!!
IEKUKATAKA 2 years ago
bakka my ass.
lenardregencia 2 years ago
Keri yo' ass! Does your mother know you are on the computer kid?
IEKUKATAKA 2 years ago
How so?
lenardregencia 2 years ago
osu would you deny that training your spirit does not make you a stronger fighter than you would have been if you had NOT trained your spirit??? that is what the water fall is about.osu
shihanmac 2 years ago
They start jogging at the top of the mountain decending until they reach this spot. then they train the kihon or basics under the freezing weather/water. What does this do? it makes your body real hard and also the repitition under these hard conditions makes punching and kicking like a second nature so in a real fight you will react very fast to guard or counter or even make use of an openning on the enemy's side.
FJGrayFox 2 years ago
It's not the belt, it's what's behind the belt. That's why i like tai chi chen style, there is no belts, just skill, from real training, not standing under ice and frezzzzzzzzing cold water punching like a retard.
macktheknife888 2 years ago
its to make your endurance stronger dumb ass so dont diss them but your right about the belt it does not matter i hate the system as well and this is real training as you say just a different form i bet you dont even know how to punch correctly
zegan82 2 years ago
Whats the title of music?
szader 2 years ago
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excuse me, but i don't see how this training can produce good fighting skills.
quanarius 2 years ago
why not?
niiieee 2 years ago
@quanarius You never were training to the border of your stamin so you dont know how spirit training can make you stronger.
szader 2 years ago 5
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hahaha wow ur dumb
FedorCroCop44 2 years ago
god damn i wonder how long they have to do those 1.2 punches!
but damn..i want to train in a traditional karate school...many students..equals more positive energy, more positive energy= better training....atleast thats the way i see it
cardonaman 2 years ago
Why people always want to prove that their style are better ? i mean, its not the style that is important, its the fighter.
Ps : sorry for my english xD
GevryVince 2 years ago 40
true but it's the style that the fighter represent's style chooses the fighter some are gifted boxer's some are gifted karate-ka's
TheLostDrifterVan 2 years ago
@GevryVince the nickname for Kyokushin karate is 'Strongest Karate' coz it's based on air compression in your body and kiya and fighting spirit
c0d24live23 1 year ago
@GevryVince
I disagree, I think your success depends on your coach. and the coach usually does exercices connected with the style. So somehow it is connected with style.
Because you do characteristic evxercices. eg in MT you stronger your knees elbows etc..
I think the person, who gives you tips and motivation, is half responsible for your success, the rest depends on the heart and your will to fight.
kowal885 1 year ago
@GevryVince Be careful! Style in the west usually means there is variation in junk. Styles in true karate still teach a martial art with martial focused training. Style is very relevant if it seperates truth from crap.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA Maybe, but if you don't take the training seriously, NO art can be called an actual martial art.
bluecollarcanuck 1 year ago
@bluecollarcanuck Bayonet fighting is a martial art. If a Marine is trained in bayonet fighting and never is in combat he still trained in a martial art. The distinction I make is that karate was originated as a martial art. It was intended to injur, maim or kill if necessary. They trained in the techniques and tactics they developed to do so and those in true karate still do so.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA "It was intended to injur, maim or kill if necessary." You will never hear from a real karateka that his Martial were inteded to injure or kill a opponent. the outcome might happen to injure him or worse, kill him but the best thing the karateka could do is disable the opponent and make sure no one gets harmed.
rammsund 1 year ago
@rammsund Quite the contrary. A real karate-ka would say just what I said. The problem you have is that you, just like most of the west, know nothing of real karate. Karate is not just what we want it to be at any time we want. Do a little study, learn of history in Okinawa, be willing to accept the truth and get back to me. If you think what is seen on TV, YouTube or in the west in general is karate you have other thoughts coming and probably a large disappointment.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@bluecollarcanuck As for the mention of the west, the western ego could screw up an anvil. I have been back from Japan for 45 years and all I see, with few exceptions, is junk, liars, frauds and pretenders that call themselves karate players. We have insulted the Okinawans as a whole by having the gall to call what I see karate. They know it and they laugh at it.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA I do take the training seriously, though; although I agree about the Western attitudes. Training ain't what it used to be, even here. I've seen some 8th kyus do better in kata than 5th or 4th kyus.
bluecollarcanuck 1 year ago
@GevryVince oss.
fredkarat 1 year ago
@GevryVince
you only made one spelling error '"why people"
correction: why do people
Ps: i forgive you or your bad english XD
TheGooberment 1 year ago
@GevryVince beacuse there is a since of pride behind everyones training no matter if you fight or cycle or play soccer or even inline skate be proud of your style and prove that it too is worthy.
BlackGrizzlyWarrior 1 year ago
@GevryVince I think its style and practitioner thats important. But also factor in that this style is world famous.
groundpounder35 1 year ago
Sublime. Long live to kyokushin
OSU!!!
wilmancamacho 2 years ago 2
osu!
GrandmasterNase 2 years ago
1:30 is shihan yui?
adishor95 2 years ago
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This is the fucking shithiest fighting sport ever...
Telemorphics18 2 years ago
You ever see one of their tournaments? It's not Muay Thai, but it's hard core.
roentgen571 2 years ago 3
OOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
AlonInLight 2 years ago
Oss
lolavengerlol 2 years ago
OSU