Dispensationalists Want Lots of Jews Wiped Out

[mikenathan57]

Gary DeMar is of those who believe the deceptive teachings of preterism. These people believe that the Jews have already been wiped out from God's covenant with them and have been replaced by the church. Let's get this straight. DeMar and his kind are the ones who want lots of Jews wiped out. Like his teachings regarding God's word Mr. DeMar is totally confused.

[nancejo]

The title of this video is misleading, "Dispensationalists Want Lots of Jews Wiped Out". Predicting something and wanting something to happen are totally differnt. You should change the title or apologize for being misleading.

[venom769]

During the tribulation, THE ENTIRE WORLD is going to suffer. what a wicked man with a wicked title for his video! dispensationalists "WANT" Jews wiped out? how evil and deceptive! God continues His work with Israel today. go to any Jewish Messianic congregation and tell them they want Jews wiped out! the teaching in this video is divisive and wicked.

[zetticat]

If ever a discussion between Gary DeMar and John Hagee were to take place, i would love to be there.

[NWOIS666]

Dispensationalism = doctrines of devils

[theheat151]

Dispen[sen]sationalism is a Jesuit creation.

[NY1054Cool]

@theheat151 Thats ignorant. The Jesuits were amillennial , RCC in their ecclesiology and essentially pelagian.

[theheat151]

@NY1054Cool So what if the Jesuits were Amil? Several of the early Church Fathers were Amil as well. That still doesn't erase the fact that Dispensationalism came from the Jesuits. One being Francisco Ribera of 16th century. Prior to him, Dispen[sen]sationalism didn't exist.

Dispensationalism didn't really break out until the 19th century when Darby and then Scofield began teaching it. NONE of the early Premil Church Fathers were Dispies. And none of the Reformers either.

[NY1054Cool]

@theheat151 Dispensationalist are Premillennial therefore no logical connection with them with Jesuits. No Amillennialism nor posmillennialism can be quoted in the 1st and 2nd Cent. church fathers. Your comments regarding when dispensationalism started contradict one another. As a system it is post reformation just like Covenant Theology is. The early church fathers were not five point Calvinist either yet that does not mean it is untrue or not. You are using logical fallacies for arguments.

[theheat151]

@NY1054Cool Amil existed during the early Church Fathers. However, many of them were Historic Premil. While the early Church Fathers were not Five pointers in name, the doctines we believe in were believed by the early Church. Ignatius, for example, held to Total Depravity: "They that are carnal cannot do the things that are spiritual...Nor can the unbelievers do the things of belief."

[NY1054Cool]

@theheat151 I am unable to locate any Amillennialist in the early church fathers of the 1st and 2nd cent at all. Justin Martyr mentions those who denied premillennialism but never specified what their exact beliefs were other than they denied premillennialism which would class them an antimillennialist rather than Amillennialist. Most of the church fathers held what we would call Semi-Pelagian leanings. Free will theism was faced by Augustine who was forced to deal with Pelagius

[theheat151]

@NY1054Cool It's true that many of the early Church were Historic Premil. For a couple of years, I was a Historic Premil. I have nothing against Historic Premil. And yes, Free will was also believed as we read from Origen: "Our free will...or human nature is not sufficient to seek God in any manner."

[NY1054Cool]

@theheat151 Informed dispensationalist do not claim dispensationalism as being taught by the early church fathers. Likewise they dont claim the reformers were dispensational either. You are using strawman arguments in the regard. The early church fathers did not teach Calvinism either yet it is Biblical. The time of systematic formulation does not prove or disprove a system. Conditions during the middle ages prevented serious study of the issues involved. We see the build up of the RCC instead

[theheat151]

@NY1054Cool We both know that Calvinism is biblical. However, we both know that Dispensatonalism Premil is not. I don't know how many times Riddlebarger has put MacArthur in his place. A Dispensational Calvinist does not and should not exist.

[NY1054Cool]

@theheat151 Riddlegarger has done no such thing to Mac Arthur. Thats odd I am dispensational and a Calvinist. Yet you dont think one can exist when they do. By the way, the early church fathers in those who spoke on it held to baptismal regeneration yet Calvinist rightly reject it as unbiblical. So appeal to the church fathers is fruitless as they are fallible as bishops/ elders today are in teaching. I have yet to be refuted by an Amillennialist or PostMillennialist in my discussions. :)

[theheat151]

@NY1054Cool Riddlebarger has done no such thing? Are you serious? His writings have made MacArthur look like a clown. I don't even take MacArthur serious anymore.

" I have yet to be refuted by an Amillennialist or PostMillennialist in my discussions"

Is that so? I don't know how many times I see a Dispie get clowned by a Covenantalist. I see it all the time on Facebook.

[NY1054Cool]

@theheat151 Mac Arthur's NT commentary speaks for itself :) Something Riddlebarger lacks in. I have seen some so called Covenantalist look look antiintellectuals in discussions with Roman Catholics. No biggie there either.Each side has its good and bad defenders. I more than hold my own with Covenantalist on this issue. Though I help them out most of the time in dealing with Arminians and Pelagians. Covenant Theology uses one aspect of turth and deny another.

[NY1054Cool]

@theheat151 The first systematic treatment of Amillennialism is the book The City of God by Augustine. ( his views combine Amillennialism and Postmillennialism )The church fathers did not teach in full neither RCC, Eastern Orthodox or Protestantism. That is why your comments are off the wall and illogical. No bishop in the church is infallible in teaching unless you are Roman Catholic . Scripture is the sole infallible rule of faith for the Church. Tradition is not equal with Scripture.

[RepentAndBeRaptured]

@thegarydemarshow I dont think its reasonable for you to expect God or the Angels to explain to Ezekiel what a tank, helicopter, airplane, gun, etc are. Nor would I expect Ezekiel to make up words that did not exist to explain what he saw so that we might believe today. If he had called something a tank or helicopter would those devices be named those things when they were invented? Probable not. I'm sure when they see Jesus in Ezekiel 38:20 they will believe.

[wconquest]

@RepentAndBeRaptured

So, your regard Ezekiel, a prophecy, as figuarative, yet Revelation, a prophetic VISION, as literal (if you are a true dispensationalist, you likely do). Doesn't this strike you as being a little backwards? Why not the other way around?

[Enoch2]

Israel has been regathered in UNBELIEF presently. The Bible teaches that God has not forsaken or cast off the nation of Israel (Jer 31:35-38) but will turn them in faith toward Jesus Christ during the Tribulation, once the Church has been raptured.

Jesus said He would not return until they say to Him:

"Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." Lk 13:35

[Enoch2]

@TheHellbinder You said "Gentiles today, Jews tomorrow.." but that is not according to the Bible. The pattern you describe is opposite God's working, both in this matter and in the matter of the pretribulation Rapture:

"Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God." Rom 2:9-11

[MrOphachew]

Dispensationalism is nothing but a bunch of sensationalism produced by the imagination of a dud named John Darby.

[boatklicko]

I have wondered myself if he could be a wolf in sheeps clothing. Some day we will find out when he stands before the lord.

[boatklicko]

This video is the most vile of all. Accusing Dipensationalists of wanting lots of Jews wiped out is the same as calling us Nazis! You sir are a vile man who will do anything for a buck. Benny Hinn any you would make great partners in crime.

[celal777]

Yes 2/3 of Israel are going to be slaughtered. It is afterwards that the Jewish leadership are going to recognise the Messiahship of Jesus and call out for His return and deliverance which will be a fulfilment of Matthew 23:39. Also if Gary De Mar has a problem with "billions of people in the world" dying then how does he read Revelation 6:8 ?

[TheHellbinder]

@celal777 there is no pretrib rapture of the church. we will be here and see the antichrist come to power, they will see their messiah when he comes on the clouds of Glory with everyone else. Lest some of them get saved by spiritual rebirth the same as us. Same body.. different emphasis. Gentiles today, Jews tomorrow.. same group same place.. earth.

[danieljacob76]

Explain, EncompassedRunner, what is the "blatant lie" you speak of?

[EncompassedRunner]

Blatant lie, even an inversion of truth.

[theheat151]

@EncompassedRunner

Dispensationalism is LIE! It was created by Papal Rome! Quit being a Romanist.