@silverguy00 Yeah but that will also always remind us how far the graphical quality of the games actually has gone since then and that people who complain about some muddy textures or some 2D objects in the sky background are totally overreacting.
Calling the graphics of a 2012 game bad because it lacks some Anti Aliasing or doesn't look like Crysis 1 is just plain and simply...wrong. ^^
@NostalgicGames Agree entirely. I was playing Mass Effect 3 demo yesterday and my jaw hit the floor at how beautiful it looks, and I'm not even running it on a particularly amazing PC
Personally I mostly didn't like that the atmosphere was so different from the original. And the lack of action oriented music. But I do love both games. Though Syndicate is and remains my favorite.
I think people didn't like this sequel mainly because of the change in perspective. There was something about switching from pure isometric to the rotating camera view which just made it more complicated (and Syndicate could be a game which was hard as hell to keep your bearings on when it came to spotting where the enemy was at the best of times).
@MurrayTheMac I guess some players make their games more complicated then they actually are. I mean you didn't really had to turn the camera around it was just a feature that could be used and was helpful. Basically you could position the camera to a similar perspective like in Syndicate and just fade out the buildings when necessary.
In Syndicate you couldn't even see behind not to mention inside buildings so you were kinda blind and had to rely mainly on your radar. ^^
Bullfrog made so many original games which at the time were way ahead for the time, shame on you EA for destroying such an innovative software company.
I don't think I've seen any game other than the Syndicates (esp. Wars) that does such a great job at capturing how a city is alive. Sure, in GTA and others you can interact with any number of individuals, but thanks to the dual role they have in the game, in SWars the sheer number of people is in itself meaningful. The massive numbers are not just decoration. Makes for great atmosphere coupled with the great visuals and soundscape.
It's a shame there don't really seem to be any LP's of it.
@lepuuttelu The reason why there are not so many LP's is probably because the game cna be hard as hell sometimes and you can't save within missions so if you loose you would have to do the whole mission again.
Also there is an unwritten law among Syndicate players to never show the end sequence for some reason. ^^
@NostalgicGames I think someone who'd have time and interest to do quite a bit of extra effort could a Let's Play where you'd show the successful runs and on the failed attempts you'd only show a selection of highlights.
Also in order to avoid having to keep repeating some points in the commentary throughout the failed runs you'd want to record some of it off-game.
I can't get it to run on my computer at the moment so I can only shamefully moan that such a thing hasn't been made :/
And I do remember that some of the missions are absolutely ridiculously difficult. In fact I'm not sure I ever finished the last one on either Eurocorp or the Church.
man, this brings back maaaaaaad memories of gettin the cheats, then nuke grenading the shit out of one area for a while, then seeing cars disappear, then reappear after a couple minutes.... then nothing beats the minigun noise, classic!!
@cprALexe I dont know about all the goals anymore but the main goal was to persuade and evacuate the scientist seen at 6:34
Next to that it is up to the player to do anything else like robbing the bank or something. This is not part of the mission but it can be done and is in most cases recommended.
I just do not get why no one does top down games anymore? I freakin loved Fallout but they move to only 3D games, Xcom is another favorite and yet they move that to a standard 3D shooter as well, now Syndicate!? At least do some top down or turn based versions along side these new 3D shooters. I would still love to see even Crusader: No Remorse remade with updated graphics, but if they just make another shooter then i pass. Even Mario and Sonic release 2D versions every now and again.
I know why they do it really kills the different game gerne's.
It's because shooters are easier and better to handle on consoles, and because they are easy to learn so everyone can handle them. Its basically aim+shoot=bang you win which means more buyers. Its not about making games anymore it's just about making money and getting the most money out of every single title.
No innovation, No variety, No complex gameplay mechanics anymore.
I remember playing this on the multitap with 4-players when I was like 15, was so fun by kinda infuriating if you went off the screen of the first player.
hahaha!.. I remember playing this when I was a little boy :D this game had the most amazing graphics I had ever seen. I never achieved anything in the game, because I was like 5 years old and couldn't figure out what to do in the game xD After hearing about the new game Syndicate, all my memories from Syndicate wars was triggered... I didnt even know I had these memories before now! xD funny shit man.
Nice presentation video! I posted it in my blog along with some commentaries about the game gaminggoreview.blogspot.com/2011/10/syndicate-wars-classic.html
@LogicalMan6 I wouldn't be surprised if they do it after the release of the new game. Given that it was a success. There is one thing that EA is interested in and that's money. So I think they may consider it in the future. ;)
@LogicalMan6 Yeah I played them when they came out. The original Syndicate (1993) on Amiga and this one on PC (1996)
But I haven't really played them until a few years later because I was too young back then and found them too hard and did not even understand them right so I just watch my brother play them. ^^
This game flew by me all the year and I did not pay any attention. Whats up with the civilians that follow you? Is that some sort of mind-control? and if so, what for?
@Nhordmyr The "Persuadertron" is meant to control nearby citizens. They can be used as cannon fodder (as they can pickup weapons too they also shoot your enemies) but mostly it is necessary to take control of mission critical NPC's. It works kinda like a power chargefor the persuadertron. The more civilians you have the more power it has to persuade "high grade" NPC's
Also I think it can be used to recruit new agents and scientists.
@NostalgicGames awesome! I dont think I will take a look at the older versions, but I'm definitely curious how the upcoming sequel "Syndicate" (ego shooter) will work out!
the new synd3 will be a system failure for the syndicate.
After it the syndicate will never be the same anymore.
Cause it will be another fuking 3d FPS shooter (first person)
I FUCKING HATE THE XBOX THE DAY IT CAME BY.
if they want our money, and hoping we dont copy their lil CDs that easy as with a PC (basicly to keep people dumb on the xbox, cause they cannot communicate that easy as we on the PCs)
I believe it did the original full justice. Outstanding series, very engaging. I love the bombs' loud siren and the devastation they can wreak when they blow.
There was talk of Peter Molyneux considering continuing the series; one can only hope. =) This one and Dungeon Keeper deserve no less.
Such fun games and yet companies like Bullfrog and Origin die out. "What a shame." - JC Denton (you can add Ion Storm to those 2).
It's really stupid that the most innovative game studios from the past were all closed down while those mainstream companies are the most successful today :-!
this is the true syndicate, the new EA syndicate is a pieace of shit, fuck EA, it ruind this beautiful game making it an FPS, DIE EA!!!!
Xunzul 1 week ago
the atmosphere, setting, and music in this game is pretty special.
madTbonez 1 week ago
What is this ??????
Skalllomater 1 week ago
@Skalllomater An old game?
NostalgicGames 1 week ago
@Skalllomater What the new crap FPS decided to ruin.
andrewwowk 2 days ago
i remember this game... lol
thouhgt the graphics were amazing... god now though they look abit shit...
silverguy00 1 week ago
@silverguy00 Yeah but that will also always remind us how far the graphical quality of the games actually has gone since then and that people who complain about some muddy textures or some 2D objects in the sky background are totally overreacting.
Calling the graphics of a 2012 game bad because it lacks some Anti Aliasing or doesn't look like Crysis 1 is just plain and simply...wrong. ^^
NostalgicGames 1 week ago
@NostalgicGames Agree entirely. I was playing Mass Effect 3 demo yesterday and my jaw hit the floor at how beautiful it looks, and I'm not even running it on a particularly amazing PC
andrewwowk 2 days ago
Damn, this game RULED!!
cowboy0212 1 week ago
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fucface111 2 weeks ago
Satellite Rain
Nettikturbo 3 weeks ago
gosh this is so retro
tsoppannos 3 weeks ago
Fuck EA.
sankunsama 1 month ago
Personally I mostly didn't like that the atmosphere was so different from the original. And the lack of action oriented music. But I do love both games. Though Syndicate is and remains my favorite.
KristusTF 1 month ago
I remember me. This Game was so brilliant. Thx Bullfrog for that. :)
giesskanne 1 month ago
Loved these games. Magic memories
VinylSamuraisMusic 1 month ago
y no one remakes it with the SC2 engine ? :P
i would, if i could ^^
redskin2005 1 month ago
Syndicate Wars was brilliant
MrDarkTides 1 month ago
I think people didn't like this sequel mainly because of the change in perspective. There was something about switching from pure isometric to the rotating camera view which just made it more complicated (and Syndicate could be a game which was hard as hell to keep your bearings on when it came to spotting where the enemy was at the best of times).
MurrayTheMac 3 months ago
@MurrayTheMac I guess some players make their games more complicated then they actually are. I mean you didn't really had to turn the camera around it was just a feature that could be used and was helpful. Basically you could position the camera to a similar perspective like in Syndicate and just fade out the buildings when necessary.
In Syndicate you couldn't even see behind not to mention inside buildings so you were kinda blind and had to rely mainly on your radar. ^^
NostalgicGames 3 months ago
This game was sex >;3
To hell with the fps piece of shit !
WildBuck007 3 months ago
Bullfrog made so many original games which at the time were way ahead for the time, shame on you EA for destroying such an innovative software company.
warmonger357 3 months ago
@warmonger357 So did Origin. They made tons of wonderful original titles as well. So did Westwood Studios. EA buried them all into oblivion.
aw3s0m31aws0n 1 month ago
I don't think I've seen any game other than the Syndicates (esp. Wars) that does such a great job at capturing how a city is alive. Sure, in GTA and others you can interact with any number of individuals, but thanks to the dual role they have in the game, in SWars the sheer number of people is in itself meaningful. The massive numbers are not just decoration. Makes for great atmosphere coupled with the great visuals and soundscape.
It's a shame there don't really seem to be any LP's of it.
lepuuttelu 3 months ago
@lepuuttelu The reason why there are not so many LP's is probably because the game cna be hard as hell sometimes and you can't save within missions so if you loose you would have to do the whole mission again.
Also there is an unwritten law among Syndicate players to never show the end sequence for some reason. ^^
NostalgicGames 3 months ago
@NostalgicGames I think someone who'd have time and interest to do quite a bit of extra effort could a Let's Play where you'd show the successful runs and on the failed attempts you'd only show a selection of highlights.
Also in order to avoid having to keep repeating some points in the commentary throughout the failed runs you'd want to record some of it off-game.
I can't get it to run on my computer at the moment so I can only shamefully moan that such a thing hasn't been made :/
lepuuttelu 3 months ago
And I do remember that some of the missions are absolutely ridiculously difficult. In fact I'm not sure I ever finished the last one on either Eurocorp or the Church.
lepuuttelu 3 months ago
@NostalgicGames An ode to Blade Runner perhaps? ;)
thinlizard77 2 months ago
man, this brings back maaaaaaad memories of gettin the cheats, then nuke grenading the shit out of one area for a while, then seeing cars disappear, then reappear after a couple minutes.... then nothing beats the minigun noise, classic!!
d1freeryda 3 months ago
what was the goal of the mission anyway?
cprALexe 3 months ago
@cprALexe I dont know about all the goals anymore but the main goal was to persuade and evacuate the scientist seen at 6:34
Next to that it is up to the player to do anything else like robbing the bank or something. This is not part of the mission but it can be done and is in most cases recommended.
NostalgicGames 3 months ago
rip good gaming
MK88N0M4D 4 months ago
I just do not get why no one does top down games anymore? I freakin loved Fallout but they move to only 3D games, Xcom is another favorite and yet they move that to a standard 3D shooter as well, now Syndicate!? At least do some top down or turn based versions along side these new 3D shooters. I would still love to see even Crusader: No Remorse remade with updated graphics, but if they just make another shooter then i pass. Even Mario and Sonic release 2D versions every now and again.
squidracerX 4 months ago
@squidracerX Amen ^^
I know why they do it really kills the different game gerne's.
It's because shooters are easier and better to handle on consoles, and because they are easy to learn so everyone can handle them. Its basically aim+shoot=bang you win which means more buyers. Its not about making games anymore it's just about making money and getting the most money out of every single title.
No innovation, No variety, No complex gameplay mechanics anymore.
NostalgicGames 4 months ago 2
wow i remember this game. and how i used to just razor wire everything and run like hell.
spam1111111 4 months ago
I remember playing this on the multitap with 4-players when I was like 15, was so fun by kinda infuriating if you went off the screen of the first player.
FuyouJake 4 months ago
hahaha!.. I remember playing this when I was a little boy :D this game had the most amazing graphics I had ever seen. I never achieved anything in the game, because I was like 5 years old and couldn't figure out what to do in the game xD After hearing about the new game Syndicate, all my memories from Syndicate wars was triggered... I didnt even know I had these memories before now! xD funny shit man.
rookie2202 4 months ago
this mission pissed me off sometimes
jezus22 4 months ago
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Nice presentation video! I posted it in my blog along with some commentaries about the game gaminggoreview.blogspot.com/2011/10/syndicate-wars-classic.html
JoaoCMBarbosa 4 months ago
If we start to compare games,then I can predict 1 thing-
The new game sucks compared to the originals!
Wharwulif 4 months ago
This game was amazing back in the day. Wait. It still is.
DryvBy2 5 months ago
They should remaster the original Syndicate games and release them on the PC before the new Syndicate comes out in February.
LogicalMan6 5 months ago 2
@LogicalMan6 I wouldn't be surprised if they do it after the release of the new game. Given that it was a success. There is one thing that EA is interested in and that's money. So I think they may consider it in the future. ;)
NostalgicGames 5 months ago
@NostalgicGames Here's hoping. DId you play the originals? I never heard of them till the other day when I saw the trailer for the new one.
LogicalMan6 5 months ago
@LogicalMan6 Yeah I played them when they came out. The original Syndicate (1993) on Amiga and this one on PC (1996)
But I haven't really played them until a few years later because I was too young back then and found them too hard and did not even understand them right so I just watch my brother play them. ^^
NostalgicGames 5 months ago
i loved both syndicate and syndicate wars i wish they would make a new one
pele220 5 months ago
@pele220 they are. But as usual. Lets not be true to the series and just pop out another FPS mentality plays in
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten its just stupid the FPS field is already a really tough field to compete in
on the other hand there are so few good RTS games out there it really doesnt add up to me :\
there is so much to play with here to make it into a really cool RTS or maybe RPG RTS combo.... stupid game developers
pele220 4 months ago
@pele220 I agree, enough said
Multimorten 4 months ago
This game flew by me all the year and I did not pay any attention. Whats up with the civilians that follow you? Is that some sort of mind-control? and if so, what for?
Nhordmyr 5 months ago
@Nhordmyr The "Persuadertron" is meant to control nearby citizens. They can be used as cannon fodder (as they can pickup weapons too they also shoot your enemies) but mostly it is necessary to take control of mission critical NPC's. It works kinda like a power chargefor the persuadertron. The more civilians you have the more power it has to persuade "high grade" NPC's
Also I think it can be used to recruit new agents and scientists.
NostalgicGames 5 months ago
@NostalgicGames awesome! I dont think I will take a look at the older versions, but I'm definitely curious how the upcoming sequel "Syndicate" (ego shooter) will work out!
Nhordmyr 5 months ago
Damn this game is the shit, time to play it again.
yourka16 5 months ago
Now SYNDICATE returns finally...
PlaySyndicateNews 5 months ago
the new synd3 will be a system failure for the syndicate.
After it the syndicate will never be the same anymore.
Cause it will be another fuking 3d FPS shooter (first person)
I FUCKING HATE THE XBOX THE DAY IT CAME BY.
if they want our money, and hoping we dont copy their lil CDs that easy as with a PC (basicly to keep people dumb on the xbox, cause they cannot communicate that easy as we on the PCs)
Xbox = gamepad.
syndicate = needs mouse
they simple dont give us what we want.
MrChatItOut 6 months ago
@MrChatItOut
Yeah fuck that
CHILLERK1NG 5 months ago
OK now try to start the video again, close your eyes and just listen to the sounds.
Unbelievable atmosphere!
tordenskrald 6 months ago
While shooting a flying car, try to make it stop over a light post, and destroy the post. job done, :)
LaMoncha 9 months ago
LOL @ 2:20
That was epic!
AnotherSchmoe 1 year ago
I believe it did the original full justice. Outstanding series, very engaging. I love the bombs' loud siren and the devastation they can wreak when they blow.
There was talk of Peter Molyneux considering continuing the series; one can only hope. =) This one and Dungeon Keeper deserve no less.
Such fun games and yet companies like Bullfrog and Origin die out. "What a shame." - JC Denton (you can add Ion Storm to those 2).
Banzay27 1 year ago 2
@Banzay27 Words of truth you said there ;)
It's really stupid that the most innovative game studios from the past were all closed down while those mainstream companies are the most successful today :-!
NostalgicGames 1 year ago
@NostalgicGames the big compnies bought the small ones and closed them :( capitalism at is worst
LaMoncha 9 months ago
@Banzay27 Those EA capitaslists guys should get their killphrases activated. Laputan machines- JC Denton :P
I heard some Swedish Company is developing synd3... but just some underground rumors :O
I love your comment Mr Banzay:)
LaMoncha 9 months ago
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you run it in xp????i can`t it goes too fast or too slowest can yo teach me how you done?????? my email is vomitosozial2131@hotmail.com
Markousphenix 1 year ago
No cutscenes like you have there. Energy would run out waaay to fast. So does money. Almost no speech or music.
I installed itright from the CD, withoutm patches. Never found any.
Busterdrag 1 year ago
@Busterdrag Strange, never had those errors. The cutscenes are just not there because I did not record them. And iirc the demo had no intro.
However energy runs out too fast? This normally happens if you pick up and use a weapon you have not researched yet.
Music does not work, probably because today's CD/DVD drives don't have the "play function" like the old ones. But I'm not sure about that.
And for money, just rob banks ;)
But no speech? I have no idea what can cause that.
NostalgicGames 1 year ago
I liked it...when it ran.
Every version I installed was buggy as hell.
Busterdrag 1 year ago
@Busterdrag What do you mean with buggy? What was happening when you tried to play it? ^^
NostalgicGames 1 year ago
Awesome game ;)
supercoiled 2 years ago