Chicago: All Bob Fosse's Razzle Dazzle

[kraznia]

Well done! Having judged competitions I can give a bit of insight to the second score being too low to qualify. While you had solid research and a seeming breadth of sources for your quotes, you only interviewed one person. Also, the sound balance between film clips and interview was awkward and needs some adjusting/scrubbing.

The visuals were well chosen. Starting with a modern example and then returning to the past and coming back forward following his career was a strong solid construct.

[Veggieman87]

Nicely done, and it's great that you'd heard of Bob Fosse in high school.

[pepefroude]

This is a gem documentary. Well done! I'm a big Fosse fan. Love the sexy moves.

[chelle329]

Nice documentary. Only one critique: the narration is done too quickly. It was hard to hear everything. Great pictures. But overall a job well done.

[GenieBella]

Interesting documentary.

All artists are influenced by other artists. They make something interesting with that influence, and in turn influence other people who come after them.

That's how art works. :)

[mggentry]

very nice! And like they say in showbiz- shake them haters off =]

[UncleCharlieOakley]

"Sweet Charity" was the first musical WRITTEN by Bob Fosse? That's going to be news to people who actually know something about Broadway. Neil Simon wrote the book based on the Fellini movie "Nights of Cabiria" and Dorothy Fields wrote the lyrics and Cy Coleman wrote the music. What exactly did Bob Fosse write?

[veromcnamee]

Excellent documentary! As with any documentary, there will always be the ones that do not agree with your point of view...and that's ok. You did a great job! Well researched and very well put together. Congratulations!

[hairyreddick]

Sweet Charity wasnt a hit, it was actually one of the most expensive flops for the time. although, stylized and great example of fosse's brilliance, it was not a commercial success.

[billcampa]

Some of the comments are typical internet flamers...ignore the barbs and know this: you made an EXCELLENT presentation of the enormous talents in Bob Fosse! Thank you for making this!

[TheStefanSittig]

Bravo ladies! Bravo!

[Iconnic101]

I love Bob Fosse's work

[dobbytHebrave]

Awesome

[scottisone]

3tootie4 you misunderstand philosophically what invention is. Bob Fosse was a great dancer, but his choreography is the point. Yes Fosse had influences, but he did not choreograph like his influences. He invented. He did things that no one else had ever done. Now, yes, they are commonplace. But before that idea existed, someone had to invent it. It's strange to think the breaking of a rule would be an invention, but it is. It's going somewhere we haven't gone before. And only geniuses do that.

[njrlr]

Jätte bra!!! Excelent!!

[Indio156]

When I saw Sweet Charity on B'way when I was 10 yrs old, the cost of a really good Orchestra seat was $8,.00. NO WHERE IN THIS WORLD would anyone have paid $200.00 -- that narrator has her info wrong.

[Indio156]

You never mention GWEN VERDON. She was the ONLY woman who could properly exacute his moves, as closely as he did himself. She was not only his muse, but she was his wife, and after they weren't together anymore. when she was too old to dance, she helped him by training the dancers in his broadway shows. GWEN VERDON was the motor of his machine!!!!

[3tootie4]

What do you mean people stole from Bob Fosse.When a person learns dance they learn from watching others.Bob Fosse also took moves from what he saw. He was influenced by Fred Astaire and others. Becoming a great performer is all about practicing and perfecting your craft and adding your own flare or style to it. Just like Michael Jackson did. He was influenced by many. All dancers and entertainers borrrow from dancers before them. To put it simply THERE NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[k1tsch83]

@3tootie4 Being influenced by somebody else's work and using elements of it your own way, that's not stealing. You can be influenced by something and start something new. The problem nowadays is laziness to actually put effort in reworking an idea, that's when you just plain steal it. Fosse was influenced by Astaire, you can see it, but one can't say he just copied it, because how he composed his choreographies was something FRESH, with his own personality.

[rhslinebacker33]

@3tootie4 I believe the hines brothers said it best when the itterated that MJ stole moves because he never paid the appropriate homage to all those that came before him, of whose moves he used. That's the key difference, Astaire, Kelly, Nicholas Brothers, Sammy Davis, they all were humble citing who they idolized and how they wished they were better.

[ekocentric]

@3tootie4 I couldn't have put it better..have you seen the "origins of the moonwalk" video here on Youtube? It'll blow your mind.

It shows old performers like: Sammy Davis Junior, Cab Calloway, The Nicklas Brothers, Fred Astaire, Bill (Bojangles) Robinson and many other dance pioneers perform their early (pre Michael Jackson) versions of the moonwalk.

[UncleCharlieOakley]

@3tootie4 You're so right.  Bob Fosse stole (like mad) from Jack Cole.

[morgoniousmonk]

@3tootie4 Right on. It is a concept that can be seen in the progression of all art forms... sculpture, literature, architecture, painting, music - dance. It is not theft to incorporate the professional vocabulary of those who come before us - it's the first step in creating our own additions to the language of our craft.

[Demithegoddess]

Why does it seem like everyone who 'borrowed' from his stuff managed to make it REALLY slutty? Even Cabaret seems totally classy compared to the new Broadway version that is just . . .dirty somehow.

[penguinworm]

@Demithegoddess What's wrong with that? :)

[k1tsch83]

@Demithegoddess A good point. I feel as though Fosse worked more though sensuality while nowadays it's sexuality who sells more. Sexuality has a quicker stimulus response but it wears out just as quickly.

[rhslinebacker33]

@Demithegoddess they took something that was supposed to be beautiful and made it about sex instead of the art. Sex, sadly sales in our society over art.

[ImNotaUTubeGeek]

Well the thing is...during Fosse's time this dancing was very scandalous. In fact it opened wide the doors for "slutty" dancing. It was the risque of his day.

[Radculas]

Wow, I was just getting to know Bob Fosse,since I like Chicago.  This really helped! thank you so much, and I loved the short clip at the end ;)

[SeraphSnow]

wow it like hasnt even been a year and our video has SO MANY VIEWS O.O =O yayyyy!! :D

[ElizaMogha]

that was very informative! good job (you should have won-still a winner for the rest of us)

thanks for uploading

[gerardm]

Excellent documentary.

[BarbaraJaneP]

Nice documentary.

[Bennie513]

I am amazed that you can talk about Fosse and not mention Pippin.

[GuyJon57]

you sound like your reading your script.. next time make it your own.. put your whole heart and soul into it, it will improve your presentation...

[TitanicTrader]

Your documentary is excellent. Thanks.

[klausweasley]

The movie "Chicago" did NOT use Bob Fosse's original choreography. It was Rob Marshall who choreographed that (it's in the STYLE of Fosse but not Fosse). Bob Fosse's original "Chicago" choreography is kind of different.

[StoliDassah]

The stage shows [or show, I know at least in LOndon's West End] they use Fosse choreography. But even then, I think it was tweaked by Ann Reinking.

[LuluLovesYouMore]

This was Fascinating! :)

Loved the HSM3 ending, lol.

[Deniserp123]

Haha, my dance instructor was talking about how so many people stole from Bob Fosse today. This is crazy!

[FantasySign]

WOOO!! :)