My conscience, the court and the law have never found Yuk Man guilty for this protest. We should praise him for his courage to fight for a worthy cause instead
It is a principle of common law that everyone shall be presumed innocent before the court finds him guilty. As the court has never passed and will never pass any judgment that this protest is wrong (as even the police themselves did not brought the case to court), then, by law, on what grounds can we blame Yuk Man when even the law and the court has not blamed Yuk Man for this protest.
I need not the court to decide for me. I myself can decide whether the protest is peaceful or not. Even the judges are human beings, and the law is enacted by people. I trust my own conscience instead of believing in law or authority blindly
In what way is the protest not peaceful? You cannot not say to Donald Tsang softly and with a smile, as Donald will just ignore you. Through people's efforts, the old people's allowance is raised to $1,000 and the Legislative Council will investigate the mini bond scandal and help those sufferers. 沒有抗爭地一味溫吞水,是沒有改變的.濟弱扶傾,何罪之有.
hong kong police just a dog, acturally its more worse than a dog, dog still can think whats right to them, those ppls are fighting freedom and righteous for their country, sad for them
The Police is doing their jobs, but so is Yuk Man! Being a true academic is to exercise and utilize your knowledge to do good for the world, not some closed-door academic only sitting in their arm-chairs and have no empathy for the world's issues! It's the the fault of the Police or Yuk Man, they are just at different positions! It's the fault of the government!
Shame on Yuk Man particularly being an academic. The Police is here only to uphold the law. If there is anything wrong, it is the problem of the law but not the Police. He is abusing his civil liberty that is protected by the law, that he is trying to bresk in this episode.
I cannot see in what way Yuk Man abused the civil right. He was just staging a peaceful protest against the small circle election and this was the only way we can do to express the people's will. You say, "It is the problem of the law but not the Police." Which chapter in Hong Kong law says that civil protectors must be removed if no obstruction is caused?
I believe in universal suffrage in response to the small circle election you quoted but this is just not the crux of the matter here. There are a lot of platforms that we can express our views including the peaceful protest you said but is a protest still peaceful if the protestors deliberately broke the laws? Submitted not but even if it is, it is certainly up to the court to decide, not the protestors. (to be continued in message below)
The protestors could complaint to the court or the Complaint Police office. They had no right to judge by themselves, on behalf of the magistrate, that the police was wrong and broke the law. Can you find someone guilty, whom you think doing something wrong, and punch him without bringing him to the police or court? (to be continued in message below)
The laws have far more considerations that will make a protest peaceful or not peaceful, as opposed to obstruction alone; that i don't think you can see from the video clip alone. After all there is no conflict between democracy and rule of laws. If everyone can do anything at the detriment of others simply because they like it, what will this world become? George Bush may agree to it.
This is not the matter of insulting HK Police (frontline). But you have to think about who is having such a decision from behind. What a shame to work for such a government.
I support 一人一票, but 毓民 has no leadership at all in this incident, he should focus on what he is there for, not fight with the police. It is police's job to enforce the law and order. He sholdn't encourage his supporter to sit on the road. He needs to learn how to respect other people.
Would you name a place in the world that businessman isn't tied to politcs? I think Hong Kong police has much more tolerance than any place in the world, then why still insult them? They are just doing their job. I believe some of the police really want to support the protester, but it is their job to follow order. Can you imagine if there is no police, who is going to maintain the law and order. Just keep your voice up on what you protest for, stay focus. Hong Kong is a paradise.
My brother is a police officer in HK. He told me that senior police management actually brainwashed them on democratic protesters! This is true as he and his team was assigned "duties". The reason they dare not overdo it is due to reporters.....police heads don't want to have negative (or even neutral news) in the press! This is true from a HK Police insider standpoint!
If you talk about police, Taiwan Police is among the most friendly among Chinese countries HK, Taiwan, and China. I have friends in the police circles in these areas.
HK used to be a paradise...but unfortunately, it is more and more becoming a mainland China city..... :(
We all need to fight for democracy in a peaceful and yet powerful way! We cannot let evil stuff like passing the Article 23 to happen in what a once "paradise" city HK!
I hope i didn't misleading you. What I comment here is from what I see in this video. 黃毓民 may be a great person on what he is doing. But when he use his protesters( the old people) to spread out his voice, that is not the right things to do. If one of the old protester get hurt during the incident, who should responsible for it? Think of one of the protester is your father or mother and being injury, who do you blame for? Soldiers and civilians is the one get hurt during a war, not the General.
If my family or friends go for what they do in the fight for democracy, I would support them! I would care of their danger, but if it is there own determination, I will still support them!
Remember, all those people do the protest on their own...and join Prof Wong's organization on their own...unlike Communists in China forcing business owners and professionals to join the Communists Party! That is the difference between a free world and a tyranny regime.
If nobody go for such democracy rights, HK will be a communist region tomorrow.
You did not mislead me,....there are people who choose to live quietly and there are those who have the guts to voice out their ideals with their passion. I respect your choice, but please respect these democracy fighters choice as they did not use forces or violence!
I don't know where you live, but surely you have not lived long enough in mainland China or Taiwan, despite you might be born in HK.
Solders are typically forced to commit to serving their country...and they have no choice and be sent to Iraq or wherever! That is why people in the States also have the freedom to condemn Pres Bush and do street protests!
But these protesters in HK are all volunteers themselves.....and not get paid or whatever! They just do what they think is right in a non-violent way!
My comment is based on what I see from this video, nothing more than that. If my voice cannot be heard by the public, then what kind of democracy you are fighting for? A great leader should able to accept critics from all kind. Please don't label anyone to be leftist or communist just because who has different opinion than yours. The best way to improve democracy is encourging and educating more young people to speak up and discuss how they feel about the society.
I don't know Cantonese well, I catch a word or two; Obviously, this is disagreement about political view or some soft. Can someone please kindly explain why can't they bring the issues to the tables, sit down and work together to find mutual solutions?
That's how people fight for democracy throughout the history. What we see is actually a very mild way of civil disobedience. The protesters did not fight back in any manners. No stones or molotov cocktail was thrown. Only the police used force to remove the protesters.
The saddest part is that the majority of the press in HK is pro-establishment and certainly try their best to ignore acts like these....
The police have right to made oder to any force to remove the protesters......anyway protesters should listen to police.....If here in USA I think USA policeman to big force than hong kong police......Pls think about this .
First of all, there's no violence or intention of violence from the protesters. Also, the mass media and the press in HK did their best to ignore the protesters. In US, protests like this will certainly be reported.
At the moment, only 800 people (mainly from the elite social class who are pro-China) can vote for the Chief Executive of Hong Kong. During March 2006 (which is when this video is from), an "election" took place between two candidate. One was Donald Tsang who was widely backed by China, and the other candidate was Leong Ka Kit, leader of the Civic Party which is part of the pan-Democrat camp.
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算吧啦! 黃生為香港市民?? 唔好笑死我! XDDD
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over128 1 year ago
完蛋了, 完蛋了, 完蛋了, 完蛋了, 完蛋了 ....... 香港仁自此完蛋了, 跟自由行隊尾撿"黃金"拉, hahahaha
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agutyr 1 year ago
點解不是同僧飲權對話
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brucelee9014 1 year ago
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ck6118ck 1 year ago
咩抵死。你先抵死,你仲有无良知噶???正扑街!
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吊~~~~可恥"毓民"
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NoteBook827 1 year ago
警方完全唔知醜
TaiAlex 1 year ago
count them lucky in korea they would have been sprayed attacked then dragged
in america they would spray then prob taser then drag
dodoboy1212 2 years ago
heroes! solidarity from the States.
paulllll 2 years ago
香港警察正pk
gowent903 2 years ago 3
浪費警力...
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香港根本唔需要黃毓民呢種攪屎棍,擁護佢同冇文化完全冇分別
hungchikai 2 years ago
we don't need you
you can be a slave and hide in your cozy little home
DevilD07 2 years ago
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唔好句句差佬啦,有文化啲啦
hkjudo 2 years ago
警察只係縮寫
正確名稱係香港政府養的食屎9
laishingwunNEO 2 years ago 8
如果我個仔話做差佬我就一手掟咗佢落街,費事佢害人害物失禮人。
Noisy666 2 years ago 8
警犬好無恥!!!!!!!
anth01234 2 years ago 6
昔日社會公僕, 淪為專權走狗
snufkin319 2 years ago 8
特區公安梗為富人、權貴、名人服務啦!
laukongwah 2 years ago 5
真係玩死班警察=.=
TwHiN1992 2 years ago 3
社民連 萬歲
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kwan31449283 3 years ago 16
這大半年,已有70多人因表達意見被送上法庭,包括工人,大/中學生,藝文工作者,民間團體工作者等。平安夜那日,因在爭取普選遊行中有警員插水而被屈襲警的小市民馮炳德被收監,他之前已因皇后碼頭事件被屈襲警,坐了兩個月監。這些事件的錄影,我們放了在自己的channel上。請發揮網絡的民間力量,到處傳發,貼在blog和facebook上,突破主流傳媒對反抗聲音的封鎖!
vartivist 3 years ago 15
My conscience, the court and the law have never found Yuk Man guilty for this protest. We should praise him for his courage to fight for a worthy cause instead
alex463331 3 years ago
It is a principle of common law that everyone shall be presumed innocent before the court finds him guilty. As the court has never passed and will never pass any judgment that this protest is wrong (as even the police themselves did not brought the case to court), then, by law, on what grounds can we blame Yuk Man when even the law and the court has not blamed Yuk Man for this protest.
alex463331 3 years ago
Another point comes to my mind, which seems interesting to those who like the law. Has the court said this protect is unlawful? Of course not.
alex463331 3 years ago
I need not the court to decide for me. I myself can decide whether the protest is peaceful or not. Even the judges are human beings, and the law is enacted by people. I trust my own conscience instead of believing in law or authority blindly
alex463331 3 years ago
In what way is the protest not peaceful? You cannot not say to Donald Tsang softly and with a smile, as Donald will just ignore you. Through people's efforts, the old people's allowance is raised to $1,000 and the Legislative Council will investigate the mini bond scandal and help those sufferers. 沒有抗爭地一味溫吞水,是沒有改變的.濟弱扶傾,何罪之有.
alex463331 3 years ago
社民連 萬歲!
香港 萬歲!
中國 萬歲!
EASACK 3 years ago 4
800條仆街選特首.. 非常可恥!
messihardaway35 3 years ago 4
hong kong police just a dog, acturally its more worse than a dog, dog still can think whats right to them, those ppls are fighting freedom and righteous for their country, sad for them
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mavic747 3 years ago
咩斯文啊?
警察又點啊?系邊個養你地啊?啊?
系人民養著你地啊? 大佬!
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sillyroro 2 years ago
It's not the fault of the Police or Yuk Man, they are just at different positions! It's the fault of the government!
jbcc268 3 years ago
The Police is doing their jobs, but so is Yuk Man! Being a true academic is to exercise and utilize your knowledge to do good for the world, not some closed-door academic only sitting in their arm-chairs and have no empathy for the world's issues! It's the the fault of the Police or Yuk Man, they are just at different positions! It's the fault of the government!
jbcc268 3 years ago
yeah everything is 'the fault of the governemnt', 咁得未?
mavic747 3 years ago
Shame on Yuk Man particularly being an academic. The Police is here only to uphold the law. If there is anything wrong, it is the problem of the law but not the Police. He is abusing his civil liberty that is protected by the law, that he is trying to bresk in this episode.
Wayne4486 3 years ago
I cannot see in what way Yuk Man abused the civil right. He was just staging a peaceful protest against the small circle election and this was the only way we can do to express the people's will. You say, "It is the problem of the law but not the Police." Which chapter in Hong Kong law says that civil protectors must be removed if no obstruction is caused?
alex463331 3 years ago
I believe in universal suffrage in response to the small circle election you quoted but this is just not the crux of the matter here. There are a lot of platforms that we can express our views including the peaceful protest you said but is a protest still peaceful if the protestors deliberately broke the laws? Submitted not but even if it is, it is certainly up to the court to decide, not the protestors. (to be continued in message below)
Wayne4486 3 years ago
The protestors could complaint to the court or the Complaint Police office. They had no right to judge by themselves, on behalf of the magistrate, that the police was wrong and broke the law. Can you find someone guilty, whom you think doing something wrong, and punch him without bringing him to the police or court? (to be continued in message below)
Wayne4486 3 years ago
The laws have far more considerations that will make a protest peaceful or not peaceful, as opposed to obstruction alone; that i don't think you can see from the video clip alone. After all there is no conflict between democracy and rule of laws. If everyone can do anything at the detriment of others simply because they like it, what will this world become? George Bush may agree to it.
Wayne4486 3 years ago
rubbish hk police
516420 3 years ago
This is not the matter of insulting HK Police (frontline). But you have to think about who is having such a decision from behind. What a shame to work for such a government.
Shame on you!
fluketennis 3 years ago
I support 一人一票, but 毓民 has no leadership at all in this incident, he should focus on what he is there for, not fight with the police. It is police's job to enforce the law and order. He sholdn't encourage his supporter to sit on the road. He needs to learn how to respect other people.
wwonghk89 3 years ago
what will you do if you are a pro-democracy party leader if most of HK business people and citizens are "bribed" for benefits from China???
you must be a great leader with MBA from Harvard.....I admire you!!!
jj123hk 3 years ago
Would you name a place in the world that businessman isn't tied to politcs? I think Hong Kong police has much more tolerance than any place in the world, then why still insult them? They are just doing their job. I believe some of the police really want to support the protester, but it is their job to follow order. Can you imagine if there is no police, who is going to maintain the law and order. Just keep your voice up on what you protest for, stay focus. Hong Kong is a paradise.
wwonghk89 3 years ago
My brother is a police officer in HK. He told me that senior police management actually brainwashed them on democratic protesters! This is true as he and his team was assigned "duties". The reason they dare not overdo it is due to reporters.....police heads don't want to have negative (or even neutral news) in the press! This is true from a HK Police insider standpoint!
jj123hk 3 years ago
continue>>>
If you talk about police, Taiwan Police is among the most friendly among Chinese countries HK, Taiwan, and China. I have friends in the police circles in these areas.
HK used to be a paradise...but unfortunately, it is more and more becoming a mainland China city..... :(
We all need to fight for democracy in a peaceful and yet powerful way! We cannot let evil stuff like passing the Article 23 to happen in what a once "paradise" city HK!
jj123hk 3 years ago 2
I hope i didn't misleading you. What I comment here is from what I see in this video. 黃毓民 may be a great person on what he is doing. But when he use his protesters( the old people) to spread out his voice, that is not the right things to do. If one of the old protester get hurt during the incident, who should responsible for it? Think of one of the protester is your father or mother and being injury, who do you blame for? Soldiers and civilians is the one get hurt during a war, not the General.
wwonghk89 3 years ago
If my family or friends go for what they do in the fight for democracy, I would support them! I would care of their danger, but if it is there own determination, I will still support them!
Remember, all those people do the protest on their own...and join Prof Wong's organization on their own...unlike Communists in China forcing business owners and professionals to join the Communists Party! That is the difference between a free world and a tyranny regime.
jj123hk 3 years ago 2
Mr WWONGHK,
If nobody go for such democracy rights, HK will be a communist region tomorrow.
You did not mislead me,....there are people who choose to live quietly and there are those who have the guts to voice out their ideals with their passion. I respect your choice, but please respect these democracy fighters choice as they did not use forces or violence!
I don't know where you live, but surely you have not lived long enough in mainland China or Taiwan, despite you might be born in HK.
jj123hk 3 years ago
Mr WWonghk,
Solders are typically forced to commit to serving their country...and they have no choice and be sent to Iraq or wherever! That is why people in the States also have the freedom to condemn Pres Bush and do street protests!
But these protesters in HK are all volunteers themselves.....and not get paid or whatever! They just do what they think is right in a non-violent way!
jj123hk 3 years ago
I rarely respond so much to net folks, but I gotta share with you the importance of respecting other people's value and ideals!
I know you are probably a father of 3 and don't wanna risk your job or life, and noboday ask you to do so.
PLEASE RESPECT THE PROTESTERS OF FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!
And thanks for support the fight for democracy and freedom of speech in your heart!
jj123hk 3 years ago 2
My comment is based on what I see from this video, nothing more than that. If my voice cannot be heard by the public, then what kind of democracy you are fighting for? A great leader should able to accept critics from all kind. Please don't label anyone to be leftist or communist just because who has different opinion than yours. The best way to improve democracy is encourging and educating more young people to speak up and discuss how they feel about the society.
wwonghk89 3 years ago
毓民's heart is in the right place. We should think about what we ourselves have ever done for Hong Kong.
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peter8808及cmlaid兩位:你們腦生草了!毓民班人是為了爭取一人一票直選,才和香港警察發生冲突。但美國早己經是一人一票直選的國家,毓民班人又怎會去挑戰美國警察呢?用下腦啦!關公又怎會挑戰劉備呢?相反你們不認同一人一票直選,倒可以去美國反對一人一票選總统,看看美國警察怎麼招呼你們啊?祝你好運嘞!哈哈。
cmho2822 4 years ago 3
CMHO....very smart reply to the leftist dogs!
thahks!
jj123hk 3 years ago
每個人都有[言論自由],他們無權干擾
nono1234peter 4 years ago 4
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haha agree with peter8808, the u.s. police even would shot him as his bad manner...
starstarca 4 years ago
sure.....maybe....but the police will be prosecuted after the incident!!!
Fight for freedom in Asia!!!
jj123hk 3 years ago
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黃毓民好一隻食屎狗!
MTS2000 4 years ago
police sucks that for sure,they no sence of humour..
jefripeter 4 years ago 4
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遊行齣髮點是對的, 反抗警察是不對的,情緒上要適當控製 ,這老頭的脾氣很大,髮在不該髮的人身上
fzlllol 4 years ago
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peter8808 4 years ago
你講得對呀,香港人只董得用自己方式去做每一件事,但唔會去諗下人地的地方有人地規巨,或者法律,呢班友仔幸運生存在香港,可以比挑戰香港警察,但如果在美國或其他地方一定唔比甘樣做,肯定打呀。
civilaid 4 years ago
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and Canada, too
akofreshmen 4 years ago
MORE POWER to YUKMAN, LONGHAIR and Mr. GOO Seeyiu
kalliahohoho 4 years ago
Does he have a job?
Is that gonna work.. shout and yell....go to hell
ansonlam911 4 years ago
what does employment have to do with democracy?
samdonuge 4 years ago
fuck hong kong police
fuck communists!
spiderman2047 4 years ago
hey, don't fucking hong kong police again .
civilaid 4 years ago
Fxxk the protesters. Go to hell.
boycollector 4 years ago
操你妈的bi,鸟你老母臭X,you fucking wanker
chauhl 4 years ago
if u guys were in singapore u would have a taste of high pressure water hose
Konig1985 4 years ago
所以我们不想新加坡化
chauhl 4 years ago
this is hilarious
vinniechan 4 years ago
A protest is never a protest if it is permitted.
kwongyeewong 4 years ago
@kwongyeewong it is still a protest in nature but the cops have no f**king right to dismiss a peaceful protest
assassinm4 1 year ago
fuck the HK police!!!!
itismay4 4 years ago
why? because you have a dick?!
lep06jz 4 years ago
Thanks for those who fight for democracy of HK!!!!
ladashea 4 years ago
I don't know Cantonese well, I catch a word or two; Obviously, this is disagreement about political view or some soft. Can someone please kindly explain why can't they bring the issues to the tables, sit down and work together to find mutual solutions?
1VienDanbvdcs 4 years ago
That's how people fight for democracy throughout the history. What we see is actually a very mild way of civil disobedience. The protesters did not fight back in any manners. No stones or molotov cocktail was thrown. Only the police used force to remove the protesters.
The saddest part is that the majority of the press in HK is pro-establishment and certainly try their best to ignore acts like these....
ladashea 4 years ago
The police have right to made oder to any force to remove the protesters......anyway protesters should listen to police.....If here in USA I think USA policeman to big force than hong kong police......Pls think about this .
civilaid 4 years ago
You think.....
Have you been to a protest before?????
First of all, there's no violence or intention of violence from the protesters. Also, the mass media and the press in HK did their best to ignore the protesters. In US, protests like this will certainly be reported.
ladashea 4 years ago 3
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每一個國家的警察或每一個地方的警察都有權跟據佢地oder去清場,無示威者有無暴力都好,示威者應該聽警察止示,或跟回你地示威路線去行,又或者跟警察的示威區示威唔能超越佢,如果示威者不聽在場的警察指示的話,警察是有權用識當武力清場。
civilaid 4 years ago
還有,香港警察算係好nice,及克制。
civilaid 4 years ago
At the moment, only 800 people (mainly from the elite social class who are pro-China) can vote for the Chief Executive of Hong Kong. During March 2006 (which is when this video is from), an "election" took place between two candidate. One was Donald Tsang who was widely backed by China, and the other candidate was Leong Ka Kit, leader of the Civic Party which is part of the pan-Democrat camp.
clubad2000 4 years ago
This is fucking wong yuk man I don't shouting to hong kong police Any people can't shouting to police .
I know this is peace but Fucking Wong yuk Man should be listen to oder from policeman.....
Policeman had powerfully clrean all in any place.
Fucking Wong Yuk Man If you not like Now in Hong KOng pls go to do job of dog in American persidentin fucking USA.
civilaid 4 years ago